1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm George Ori, and welcome to the new I 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,119 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast d A and Paranormal 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: Podcast Network. Like us on Facebook, Tell your friends and 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: share us with everyone. This is an exciting new network 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: that will feature podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, and the unexplained. Now, 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: please sit back and enjoy Dark Becomes Light with Heidi Hollis. 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: The thoughts and opinions expressed by the host our thoughts 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: and opinions only, and do not necessarily reflect those of 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: I Heart Media, I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast A 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: out employees of premier networks or their sponsors and associates. 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: You are encouraged to do the proper amount of research yourself, 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: depending on the subject matter and your needs. You are 13 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: listening to Dark Becomes Light with Me, Heidi Hollis on 14 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a AM 15 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome to my show. Remember each week 16 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: this is the place you go to when you want 17 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: to hear the latest when it comes to any story 18 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: out of ordinary. I am talking about angel encounters, near death, 19 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: experience of big Foot, anything out of the ordinary. I 20 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: want you to go to my main website, which is 21 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: Heidi Hollice dot com or shadow folks a dot com 22 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: and me your stories, tell me what you've seen, tell 23 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: me what you've known or that you've heard, or if 24 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: there's something you've researched or something that you've read about 25 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: that you want to have addressed here on this program. 26 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: I will do that. And also the show is about 27 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: giving you advice if you have questions, if you want 28 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: to learn something, if there's something I can tell you 29 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: about your circumstances facing shadow people or hat man. That 30 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: is another specialty, of course, that I'm always talking about 31 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: here on this program. And uh, you know, it's it's 32 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: all about building this puzzle, right, we got pieces. I'm 33 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: grabbing over here, you're grabbing over there and seeing what 34 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: we've got. And today it's my favorite kind of show 35 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: because we are doing nothing but the emails that have 36 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: been sent on over here. Don't you love those? I 37 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: do too, so um yeah, so we're gonna dive on 38 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: into those. I really got to come up with a 39 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: name for this, I mean dark be light letters, maybe 40 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I used to have different names for 41 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: it over the years when I would access and then 42 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: read off some of these emails and try to give 43 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: some insight, try to give some advice where I could, 44 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: and some help where I could. And you know what's 45 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: really beautiful, it's working people are getting the message. I 46 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: really get so touched so often during a week from 47 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: people who will send me a message on any social 48 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: media and just say, you know what, you helped me, 49 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: You really helped me. I was in a bad place, 50 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: and uh I got rid of these things because I 51 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: paid attention to what you're saying. And I'm like, just 52 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: one of those makes all of this worth it. Just 53 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: one of those, UM. You know, I hear of people 54 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: why they go into becoming part of the clergy, you know, 55 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: pastor or priest or reverend, minister, and they're like, you know, 56 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: it's about saving lives and souls, and honestly, I kind 57 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: of kind of feel like that, UM in this position 58 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: a lot of the times because people are in some 59 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: really really horrible situations and it just rips my heart out, 60 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: just rips my heart out. Nobody should have to face 61 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: anything dark, demonic, negative on their own. UM. But then 62 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: also people have some extraordinary experiences and it's just beautiful 63 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: and nobody believes them. That's another disappointment, Absolutely a disappointment, 64 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: and it can really let a person down. UM. I 65 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: know I've had where I've seen things and and uh 66 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: like just unbelievable stuff like whoa, and not having that 67 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: outlet of people not so much just believing or even 68 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: wanting to hear it. You know what I'm saying. That's difficult. 69 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: It's really difficult. So yeah, So I think having this 70 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: kind of outlet building, this community building, is important. We 71 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: have to do this for each other. Um. I can't 72 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: stress that enough. I used to run a UFO paranormal 73 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: discussion group count it. It was about fifteen years. Oh man. 74 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: I had a great time doing that. I met some 75 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: extraordinary people and I learned a lot, and I went 76 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: to a lot of conferences, um nearly of the time 77 00:04:55,680 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: as a as a an audience member. UM. But I 78 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: do appreciate meeting the people and having those sit down, 79 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: cozy conversations and uh, I hope that you guys feel 80 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to do here. I have a 81 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: cozy conversation with everybody. UM. Okay, so I'm gonna dive 82 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: in where am I? Alright? So this one there's a 83 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: short email, very very very short. Uh, it says keV. 84 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: That's that's the name or nickname. Both of my daughters 85 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: and my youngest son told me they saw or felt 86 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: a shadow person in their room. My daughter went into 87 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: a fetal position when she saw a picture, so I 88 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 1: shrugged it off the end. That's that's that's the email. 89 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, Kevi. I appreciate the note. Um, I 90 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: don't know how to really analyze that. Your response to it. 91 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: You're you shrugged it off, was in a fetal position. 92 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: It sounds like it was absolutely terrifying for her. I 93 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: have seen people cower and pull in like that, and 94 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, it is something like out of a horror movie. 95 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: You hear of people being scared stiff, like paralyzed, right, 96 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: but there's also that protective pulling in and wow, Um, 97 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: I could say that I have never seen it but 98 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: the one time, and it was when my friend had 99 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: witness hat Man for the first time, and I ran in. 100 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: I heard her doing a death cry like something out 101 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: of the movies too, And I'm like, WHOA, what is 102 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: going on? And I bolted and ran to her room 103 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: and and she had coward to the furthest corner of 104 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: the room and made herself so small and I I 105 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: don't even know how to expressed that. Clearly, she made 106 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: herself so small that it was like she had shrunk 107 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: in the fear of it, you know what I'm saying. Um, 108 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: just absolutely just just just really really horrible to witness 109 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: and to know well, to have her reacting like this, 110 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: something physical is here, Oh my goodness. And that is 111 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: the person, ladies and gentlemen, who drew the hat Man 112 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: image yet you see all over the world today. And 113 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: that was the first encounter. And it took me years 114 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: before that thing would ever come to me, And it 115 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: was in the face of me writing my book The 116 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: hat Man, and suddenly he found it worthy to try 117 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: to try to come at me. And he came at 118 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: me in my bedroom and I knew who it was, 119 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: and I just refused to give him the fear that 120 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: he was looking for. And then it came to me 121 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: twice at work as a therapist, went after my patience 122 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: and yeah, just just crazy to sit there and experience that. 123 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: And then after that he came as a as an 124 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: intruder in a dream. I mean, boy, these things really try, 125 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: they really try to get to know you and try 126 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: to find those spots to shove their little nasty, disgusting 127 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: fingers into. And hat man he is about the worst 128 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: out there. Um well he is, I mean, calls himself 129 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: the devil. That's that that's pretty bad. Why don't you 130 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: say I'd say that's that's pretty good? Awful? All right? So, 131 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 1: um so I am going to hop on over to 132 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: this next email, and boy, this is uh, this is 133 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: a this is a doozy. This is a doozy. All right. 134 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: Let me see this big, big joiant email. All right, 135 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: I think I have to break this one down. This 136 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: one says, dear Heidi, The following is my written account 137 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: of my alien abduction as I can remember it. Okay, 138 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: we got aliens today, the extraterrestrial, the fourth kind. Many 139 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: people dismiss the idea of quote aliens the extraterrestrial kind. 140 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: Most people would say they don't exist, or it's all imagination, 141 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: just like they used to say about ghosts and other entities. 142 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: That's true, it's very true. If people haven't experienced it, 143 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: it hasn't happened. Right. Since our government is slowly coming 144 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: out about UFOs or what is now called U A 145 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: p S. We still call it UFOs here, I'm not 146 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: going with their little definition. Okay. So anyways, I've decided 147 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: to publicly tell my story and experience. And it began 148 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 1: when I was a toddler. Man. You know how many 149 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: times people have written me and tell me they remember 150 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: as a toddler. It's amazing to me. It's amazing, and 151 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: it seemed to be at moments that were absolutely terrifying. 152 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: It left a mark in their memory where it was 153 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: hard to ever forget what fully happened. So all right, continuing, 154 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: I remembered waking up at night with a very bright 155 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: light coming through the window opposite of my bed. I 156 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: don't remember anything else about that night, just what I've 157 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: written at this point, but it is the first of 158 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: the memories of visits. I can remember the bright lights 159 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: waking me up a few times a year every year 160 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: from that point until a few years ago. Oh my gosh, 161 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: oh my goodness, you can remember all of that. When 162 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: I was fourteen, I stood outside and said out loud, 163 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: if you all are real, show me. Within several minutes 164 00:10:55,040 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: after I'd seen a UFO, Oh I have some relation 165 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: to that one. Uh. It was triangular with red lights 166 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: hovering right above me. I ran into the house scared. 167 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: Oh I had a moment like that too, at a 168 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: moment like that, and uh, I feel you because I 169 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: was like, you know, everybody's talking to my ear about Oh, 170 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: these things aren't real. Oh it's demonic. Oh it's this 171 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: and that. And I went out just very much like 172 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: you did here. And I went to the back and 173 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, look, all right, you guys. If you have 174 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: anything to do something evil negative, I don't want anything 175 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: to do with you. This is it unless you show 176 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: yourself right now. I know I mentioned it here on 177 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: the show. And let me tell you this thing. This 178 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: disk shown up at one end of the parking lot 179 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: that I was standing in. And but first I should 180 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: say that there was a little little little zig zag 181 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: lights that went overhead. Uh, and I said that's not 182 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: good enough. And then a disc showed up and just 183 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: streaked across the sky, uh, probably just a few stories 184 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: above where I wasn't and uh and just lit up 185 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: the parking lot I was standing in. And wow, you guys, 186 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: imagine that. Imagine that you are, you're in this reality 187 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: and something was listening to you on such a level 188 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: that they showed up in a physical ship and this 189 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: is what is being related here. I can't tell you 190 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: what that does to person. It makes you feel like 191 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: you're never alone, first of all, and you also feel 192 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: like like a kind of kinship to it too. Now 193 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: I'm not saying all of these ships that are buzzing 194 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: around are good guys. Oh no. My first book is 195 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: called The Secret War for a reason. UM. So it's uh, 196 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: it's really kind of earth shattering. But I want to 197 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: continue this story that was a big email um after 198 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: the break and dive on into this. You guys, you're 199 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on 200 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast I am 201 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network. Stick around, We'll be right back. Welcome back. 202 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi 203 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 204 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: I am Paranormal Podcast Network. Just for the break, I 205 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: started this big juicy email um in regards to an 206 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: alien encounter. This comes to us from a Jennifer, just 207 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: as you guys know, and they spoke of having visits, recoverling, 208 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: having visit as a toddler, and then being awakened by 209 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: bright lights a few times a year, and this would 210 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: happen their whole life until just a few years ago. 211 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: But are you interesting enough? They had an encounter when 212 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: they were fourteen years old when they set out loud, 213 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: if you're real, show me, and within several minutes, a 214 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: UFO showed up, and Jennifer says, after this triangular shaped 215 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: craft showed up with red lights right above her, she 216 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: ran into the house scared, which I don't blame you, 217 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: all right, So to continue this story, it says, when 218 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: I calmed down and realized what I'd seen, I went 219 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: back out. I hear, you should have cut a wood right, um, 220 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: But it was gone for me. I was like, hey, 221 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: where didn't I have my camera? My cameras right next 222 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: to me. Just the craziest things. I mean, we always 223 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: think like we could have done better. But all right, 224 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: I don't have memories of them standing over my bed. 225 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: M okay um. I don't have memories of medical experiments. Okay, 226 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: not saying that they didn't, but I don't have memories 227 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: of it. Until a few years ago, I didn't have 228 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: any memories except the lights through the window. That's an 229 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: interesting element of alien contact, alien abduction. They mess with 230 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: people's memories. Okay, I mean this is common, um, but 231 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: it's also sporadic how these things come back to a person. 232 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the weirdest thing that might trigger what 233 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: some people have as a PTSD type of response, and 234 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: that could come in a lot of different ways. I mean, 235 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: people are stressed, they're not sleeping, they're getting flashes of 236 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: memories of odd things, or they're they're suddenly petrified of 237 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: certain areas or open sky. Uh. And then slowly they 238 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: start to realize that it had alien arms and eyes 239 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: and body behind it. Um. So it it's a crazy phenomenon. 240 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: It's really a crazy phenomenon, all right. So continuing, Jennifer says, 241 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: a few years ago, I'm forty five now. So I 242 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: was thirty nine and I woke up knowing I had 243 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: been somewhere, okay, a very far somewhere. I had a 244 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: piece of memory of this trip. I knew it was 245 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: more of a round trip instead of going to a destination. 246 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: I don't know why I can remember this so clearly. 247 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: I was sitting in a half lit room, and I 248 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: could see other people sitting near me. These these types 249 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: of I don't know if they're always abductions, but these 250 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: mass abductions or mass contact experiences are really interesting, guys, 251 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: because a lot of times these people they'll they'll see 252 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: each other later in life or something, or they they 253 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: they're like, gosh, you know, I went to this UFO 254 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: meeting and uh, and somebody feels or looks familiar to them. 255 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: And this is a common thing, very very common. Um 256 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: So I just find it fascinating when this takes place. 257 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: And let me tell you, I've been in this for 258 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: a long time and I met a lot of people 259 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: and meant a lot of author has meant a lot 260 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: of um plain experiencers, and you know, whether they're kind 261 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: of a person that's more outwardly speaking on their experiences 262 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: or not. And some of these people have come forward 263 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,959 Speaker 1: to be doing a lot of interesting things on television 264 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: and um, you know, in their lives and whatnot. And 265 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: you'd be really surprised how few of them will speak 266 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: to having memories of these mass abduction or contact experiences. 267 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: And I know several of them, and uh, it's always 268 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: always kind of fascinating to me. You know. Let me 269 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit because before I continue here, 270 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: because there's a similar scenario that goes on with this 271 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: where I've heard of people that have noticed or felt 272 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: like something was going on and then in their neighborhood okay, 273 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: and they would see bright lights and look out their 274 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: window and you know, the neighbors are coming out in 275 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: their pajamas. Yeah, and uh, and and they're walking along 276 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: the street and there's a bright light down the street 277 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, this is something that people experience personally. 278 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: I had a different kind of experience that didn't involve 279 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: aliens and involved our military people doing one of those 280 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: lovely my labs you know, military abductions, that's what that 281 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: stands for. Yeah. So, um, I would say they have 282 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: their hands on some very similar technology to be able 283 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: to pull something like that off, which is who I 284 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: can tell you, guys, the most insulting experience to know 285 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: that people that you're you're paying their their you know, 286 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: their salary, are violating you by taking you against your 287 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: will somewhere and following these orders. Okay. Um. People were 288 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: persecuted for following unruly leaders, right that did atrocities two 289 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: masses of people. Right. Why are our soldiers following these 290 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,239 Speaker 1: orders when they know it's wrong. This is not a 291 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: matter of security. If it was a matter of security, 292 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: they'd be protecting us from what's going on. But instead 293 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 1: they participated in it. So I'd say, who, this is 294 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: just a deep, deep trench. Um, So okay, I'm going 295 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: to continue, damn you. But yes, look into mass abduction 296 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: and mass contact experiences, really really fascinating stuff. All right, Um, 297 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: they continue. The room was metal pod like, poss blee 298 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: pentagon shaped. I was very awake, but I was calm. 299 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: The other people just sat there staring at the floor. 300 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: I was thinking they were still sedated. So I get 301 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: up and I leave this room. Oh I love it, 302 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: and walked down a narrow, dark hallway, no fear whatsoever. 303 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: I enter a room with one extraterrestrial seated in front 304 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: of a bunch of buttons and a great big window. 305 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: I looked out the window and thought to myself, we're 306 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: heading back to Earth. This, this, this is good. I 307 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: have to tell you too. The scenario of somebody walking 308 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: around the ship and surprisingly having the ability to move 309 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: around the ship and to see the big pane glass 310 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: window on the front of the ship and seeing Earth 311 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: is something I've heard a lot of as well. It's 312 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: amazing to me, Why why would this is all for good? 313 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: Why not let us have our memories? Fully? This person 314 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: here luckily has a good chunk, but there's a lot 315 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: that's missing, Like where'd you go? How is that going? 316 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: Why they send you there? All? Right? So continuing, I 317 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: watched as we passed through space. We passed by some 318 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: space junk like satellites, which I had a weird fear of. 319 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: I don't blame you, uh, and stars that were like 320 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: white streaks. The extraterrestrial looked at me and this being 321 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: was wearing a smooth, shiny cape with a hood. The 322 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: hood was pulled up onto his head. I don't know 323 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: how I knew it was a heat. That's that's interesting. 324 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: A lot of people they can kind of get a 325 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: feel for what is in front of them, like they're 326 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: gender and uh yeah, it's it's always kind of perplexing 327 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: to people why they can distinguish this being a male 328 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: or female or whatever. And uh yeah, I don't I 329 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: don't quite understand that either, But I think it goes 330 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: along with this this thing that's in us all to 331 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: know what's before us, Uh, to be able to sense 332 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: of something as good or evil. Uh, we have this instinct, right, 333 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: and it's very important that we take that part of 334 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: us and allow it to reach out before we do 335 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: so we can feel out our situation, not in the sense, 336 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: of course the gender of this this creature, but to 337 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: know if it's a threat or if it's a friend. Alright, 338 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: So continuing, I walk over to him and asked telepathically 339 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: if I could pull the hood down to see him better, 340 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,719 Speaker 1: and he allowed me to pull it down. Okay, he 341 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: resembled the famous gray Aliens, but his skin color was 342 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: brown instead of gray. I've heard of those. His head 343 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: was shaped differently too, it was elongated with crevisis. He 344 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: was obviously the one flying the ship. After that, I 345 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: was back at my house. I don't know if there 346 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: was more that I don't remember, or if I was 347 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: immediately transported to my house. I'm quite certain this is 348 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: a real memory. I can remember every single detail of it. 349 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: I don't know why I was abducted. I don't know 350 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: why I wasn't afraid or why I wasn't sedated like 351 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: the other people. All I know is we are not alone. 352 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: M That's a that's that's a tremendous story. Thank you 353 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: so much for sending that along, Jennifer. That was Wow. 354 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: It gives an honest perspective of how people just come 355 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: up with these memories. Imagine having that thing come back 356 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: to you, this all, this whole scenario of I was 357 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: just gone from here, absolutely gone, and you trust your instincts, 358 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: you trust your knowledge, you trust your eyeballs, you trust 359 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: all of these senses, and then you go, I would 360 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: to screw this from the top the tallest mountain. And 361 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: there's nobody that's sitting there wanting to listen to this always, 362 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: you know, it's like what, why not? Where are we? 363 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: Why are we missing in this area? There have been 364 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: ancient texts written on such experiences that we still read today. 365 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: They use their words to describe what it is they experienced, 366 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: and today we use different wording. But they sound extraordinary. 367 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: They sound very equally interesting. And I'm not saying know 368 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: like biblical religious texts only. There's been a lot of 369 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: different types of scenarios that have been written of or 370 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: painted over the centuries of what humankind is is experiencing. 371 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: And I hope, I hope that we'll start taking this 372 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: more serious and uh, let's getting there, getting there, all right, 373 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: So we're gonna get to our next break so we 374 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: can continue discussing this LOGA. You are listening to Dark 375 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: Becomes Light with Me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart 376 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: Radio and Coast to Coast i AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 377 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: Sticking around, I'll have a story share. We'll be right 378 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Because Invite with 379 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast 380 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Just before the break, 381 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: I had a really interesting email from Jennifer who was 382 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: sharing about her life long interactions with alien beings and 383 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: once that are not often spoken of are these ones 384 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: who are more brown with like crevices on their heads. 385 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: And I've heard of them, and I've also heard of 386 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: people having these understandings when they go back and forth 387 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: with different beings and sometimes they're just kind of hanging 388 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: out on other planets. And that sounds so extraordinary, right, 389 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: And uh, I get it. I do UM personally. I 390 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: know that I've seen other things in other places, UM, 391 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: not as an abductee. I don't have memories of that 392 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: kind of thing either. And and from what I'm hearing here, 393 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: this person has not felt like they've been abducted and 394 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: violated in that sense either. Now, when that's the case, 395 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know for for effect, but you 396 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 1: see these patterns, right, So imagine there's people that have 397 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: these expeditions, if you will. Um, they do go and 398 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: check out these other places, and um, they learn things. Uh, 399 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: And it's almost as if they belong to these different 400 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: races of beings and they feel like they're being taught things. 401 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: They feel that they're teaching these beings things, and it's 402 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: almost like, um, what do you call in exchange student 403 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: type of thing. But then sometimes if people like Jennifer 404 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: here don't don't know for sure, but if they get regressed, 405 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: sometimes they recall agreeing to participate in this manner. But 406 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: also those who get abducted and experimented on and having 407 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: children created and taken from them. Uh is it always 408 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: a good thing? I don't. I don't. I don't think that. Uh, 409 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: anything that's causing you harm is a good thing, no 410 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: matter how you look at it. You know what I'm saying. 411 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: To dive a little further on this, and how the 412 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: people around Jennifer here seemed sedated while she was not 413 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: and was walking around and the alien didn't seem too 414 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: concerned about her walking around. I mean, like where she 415 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: going to escape to? You know what I'm saying. So 416 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 1: it's almost like a bus driver. It's like, you get 417 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: off at the next stop, we'll beat me down. It'll 418 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: be just fine. Okay, So I got something to share 419 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: with you. So I don't know. I don't think I've 420 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: written about this in any of my books. This is 421 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: a little different. I admit it's a little different, and 422 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if I've ever even spoke 423 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: about it on the air, because it it is, it 424 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: is out there, um, and it didn't quite relate to 425 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: help with any certain topic. Um. But for myself, I 426 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: have had memories of going to other places, and um, 427 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: I have spoke about some of the places, but one 428 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,959 Speaker 1: of them in particular, I know it was another planet, 429 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: and I suddenly have this memory of of having been 430 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: there and the Earth being rather reddish, orange ish sandy, 431 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: and walking through like almost what looked like dunes of 432 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: of a sort of this like sandy like nature, right, 433 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: and you know, knowing this place looking up and seeing 434 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: more than one son, yeah I did, and and walking 435 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: to this known understanding I knew where I was walking 436 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: to very huge buildings, extremely huge buildings, and I thought 437 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: of them as universities. Um, they were larger than a 438 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: human would need to attend. Okay, And coming upon this 439 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: these buildings and the structure was like spires almost um 440 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: not not well, I guess they were a metallic but 441 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: there were more earth than even like a combination maybe 442 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: is a good way to put it. Kind of a 443 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: different kind of thought on how metal should be and 444 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: how metal should reflect, if that is painting the picture better. 445 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: And going there now there's no like cars or craft 446 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: parked around, like you know, people are all in class 447 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: or something. No, no, no, this is like a standing 448 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: university in the middle of this huge planet of sorts. 449 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: And and and I had the understanding that there were 450 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: other things on this planet, but this, this certain section 451 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: was for going here to learn. And also understanding that 452 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: I wasn't going there to pull in and observations to 453 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: learn new things to bring back here, you know what 454 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like I knew I would have limitations, that's 455 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: a better way to put it. I would have limitations 456 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: on what I would recall later. And I knew that 457 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: going there, and uh, and I went, and I remember thinking, oh, 458 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,239 Speaker 1: this is a it's a cool university. I I know 459 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: I've been there before, but it was still it was 460 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: almost like it was a little bit newer for me 461 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:42,719 Speaker 1: going there and going to the extraordinarily large opening for 462 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: like the doorway, and it's not like the door open, 463 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: it was opened already. It was like a almost like 464 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: a caved archway where you go inside. And I knew 465 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: the floor I needed to go to rite this is 466 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: the craziest part, because I don't know how better to 467 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: put this, and going to this like elevator shaft all right, 468 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: there's no floor, there's no floor, and going in and 469 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: oh man, how tall are these ceilings? Oh the ceilings 470 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: had to be I don't know, six stories. It's just 471 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: super high, extraordinarily high. And then to go into these 472 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: extraordinarily large elevators okay, and I'm like, well, there's there's 473 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: no floor, but I knew to stand there. And for 474 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: some reason, I've got this memory of there being someone 475 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: telling me it's okay, stop on it. You step in there, 476 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: and I step in there, and I'm not kidding you. 477 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: I was on a tuft of air. You hear me, 478 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: A tuft of air. It's not like, you know, my 479 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: shirt is flapping or my hair is flapping, or my 480 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: lips are flapping in the in the wind or something, 481 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: you know, or I couldn't talk or breathe. I felt 482 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: like a tuft of air I had stuffed on and 483 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: thinking the thought of the floor that I needed to 484 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: go to, and I was brought up so gently into 485 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: the air, up the shaft of this elevator and then 486 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: reaching that floor and just gently lightly being guided off 487 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: the floor and uh and just marveling at at the 488 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: beauty of this building, in this space and the enormity 489 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: of it. Uh and just taking it in and knowing 490 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: when I took my step off that floor, and coming 491 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: and looking down the hall and seeing the place I 492 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: was about to go into. I knew I wouldn't have 493 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: the memory of this part. I knew this, but I 494 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: was so like overjoyed. And I remember looking back at 495 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: that elevator shaft like that is the coolest thing right there, 496 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,959 Speaker 1: Like everybody should ride this thing. It was so much fun. 497 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: And there's no way anybody would have any kind of 498 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: fear of being in this type of elevator because you 499 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: don't feel crowded I was totally thinking that like that, 500 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: you don't feel claustrophobic. It's all open, you know. Yeah, 501 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: there was like closed walls in between the floors, but 502 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: it's open, you know, all the floors are open. You're 503 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: on air for crying out loud. So it was. It 504 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: was pretty darn cool, I must add. So I wonder 505 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: was Jennifer heading to a place like that. I don't know. 506 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: I don't know. Um, I don't recall how I got 507 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: to where I was. I don't recall how I got back, um, 508 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: anything like that. But another thing to know and to 509 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: understand when people say that they've had contact, and I 510 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: know for myself when I've had contact, not abductions. I 511 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: don't recall being abducted. I don't recall having any experiments 512 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: or anything like that. And I've been introduced on shows 513 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: like and here's Heidi Hollis an alien objecting. I'm like, whoa, buddy, No, no, no, no, 514 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: um so, and they're just like, well, perhaps you just 515 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: don't remember. Well maybe one day I will, but right now, no, UM. 516 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: I know that things have tried to get at me, um, 517 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: I don't know of them being successful. Perhaps again, that 518 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: memory will come forward or I might dig. I don't know. 519 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: I have not been successfully hypnotically regress. So um. But 520 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: I'll say about these types of scenarios that sometimes sometimes 521 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: we don't go physically, we go spiritually, and the spiritual 522 00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: adventures can seem rather physical. I know this for myself. 523 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: I have gone through walls, I have gone into situations, 524 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: but I still feel a physical body. But I know 525 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: that I'm not quite in a physical body. You will 526 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: hear people say this when it comes to having near 527 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: death experiences, that they have this feel of having on 528 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: an outfit or having their jewelry on, or seeing their 529 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 1: loved ones also dressed and and very much walking through 530 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: beautiful gardens. They feel and they smell and they see, 531 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: they hear. I mean it's like physical bodies. So for 532 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: me when I go to these places, I can't help 533 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: but to think. Um. Others are of course having these 534 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: types of experiences. And but with Jennifer, she literally was 535 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: in a craft, so transportation different. I don't know, but 536 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: not everybody has taken or ventures I should say, not 537 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: always taken um, but venture is uh in different scenarios 538 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: as in spiritiform so um. Yeah, so Jennifer, I really 539 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: appreciate your story here. It really helps to paint a 540 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: picture for people to see how these types of memories 541 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 1: come forward and how people deal with it. And and you, again, 542 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: you didn't have fear, so there might have been a 543 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 1: more you know, duscile approach these beings had it wasn't 544 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: intrusive for you. But then there's also this understanding that 545 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: it's just because you have a positive experience with one 546 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: type of being doesn't mean more negative beings will also 547 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 1: try to put their fingers into the mix and really 548 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: confused matters because you'll just be like, I just have 549 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: the greatest adventure. I've got these abuses happening, and it's 550 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 1: not always the same being doing or they might. It's 551 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: such a confusing scenario that a lot of people are 552 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: presented with. But all right, we're gonna get to our 553 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: next break, and we've got another email you guys. You 554 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: are listening to Dark Becomes Light with Me Heidi Hollis 555 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast d 556 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:25,479 Speaker 1: a um paranormal podcast network. We'll be right back. Welcome back. 557 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,720 Speaker 1: You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with Me Heidi 558 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 1: Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 559 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: am par a normal podcast network just for the boy. 560 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: I was sharing a personal story h going off planet. 561 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: Not my only memory, by the way, going off planet. 562 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: It's just one of the more interesting ones that lets 563 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: me know. I have spoke of remembering before I was born, 564 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,280 Speaker 1: without hypnosis or anything like that, and uh, after agreeing 565 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: to be born here and going to be trained and 566 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: taught new things, and the training is ongoing. It I 567 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: know it sounds like I know, it's like what. Um, yeah, 568 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: so I have the some really strange things that happened, 569 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: but for me, they don't feel strange because it's something 570 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 1: that's happened for as long as I can remember. As 571 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: a kid, I remembered going and seeing different things and 572 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 1: learning new things and going ah. So that's how it is. 573 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: And I wrote a book called Picture Prayers based on 574 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,919 Speaker 1: a lesson on how angels pray. They showed me how 575 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: they pray, and I've been praying that way ever since. 576 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: And now it's not like I take time out for 577 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 1: prayer because prayer happens all the time, and um, it's 578 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: very visual. It's all day long, and it's now become 579 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: more of a conversation. So it's uh, there's a lot 580 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: to say in uh people's experiences when it comes to 581 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: out of body, extra tterrest real, um, all sorts of 582 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: different scenarios that come up to a person. I mean, 583 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: it's hard to put into words, and I do my best. 584 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 1: I mean I keep writing so many different types of 585 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: books like maybe this angle will help paint a picture 586 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: about what this was like, or how this can help 587 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: another person and let them know that they're not alone. Um, 588 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: there's so much, so much, so um. But anyways, I 589 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 1: want to jump on over here to this last email. 590 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: All right, this comes to me from Dana. Dear Heidi, 591 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 1: that's me. Has anyone talked about hat man with playing 592 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:42,280 Speaker 1: cards and him trying to get them to play with them? 593 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 1: My eleven year old has experienced this, and I need 594 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: to know what it means. We both see loads of 595 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: weird things people, monsters, animals and shadows. Thanks for any insight, Dana. Wow. 596 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: Um yeah, Dana, that's disturbing. UM. Oh, how can I say? 597 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: All right, So when you go to engage in a game, right, 598 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: and you go to another person, Hey, you wanna you 599 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: want to do this? There's a yeah, sure, right, there's 600 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: like this little admission of yeah, I'll participate, I'll partake 601 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 1: and what you're doing over there? Uh, And it's and 602 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: it's a it's a welcoming. It's a welcoming and it 603 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: sounds like, come on, that was just an innocent game, right, No, 604 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,839 Speaker 1: not for him, you know not. You're talking about hat 605 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: man who cheats at every game he ever plays. All right, Um, 606 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 1: so this welcoming thing is welcoming scenario. And trying to 607 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 1: let a kid let their guard down by playing a 608 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 1: game cards of course, you know, like that's a he 609 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 1: should have pulled out a video game console or something. 610 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,760 Speaker 1: I mean, that's more up to date, isn't it. But yeah, 611 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: he'll do anything. It's kind of like, hey, you want 612 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 1: some candy, little hid It sounds horrible, right and you 613 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: think about that, a man offering candy to your child. 614 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,760 Speaker 1: You're like, whoa red flag? Red flag? But a game? 615 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,720 Speaker 1: You know, help me find my dog? Remember the serial 616 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 1: killers that we use that one. Um, so many different things. 617 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I hurt my arm, can you help 618 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: me put my groceries in the car? That's another serial 619 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 1: killer move. There are so many things that pull at 620 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: a person. This invitation. Um, you know and sometimes pulls 621 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: on your kindness, like well I don't want them to 622 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: play alone. Of course, yeah I'll do it. And you're like, though, 623 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: you're a big, black, shadowy creature with a with a 624 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:45,240 Speaker 1: hat on. Um, it's it's crazy, right, it's crazy. But kids, 625 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 1: kids have a different perspective and they have this this 626 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: heart in them that's just like, oh, you know, I 627 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: want to help or I want to be there, and 628 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 1: yeah i'll play, and of course playing is fun. And 629 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,240 Speaker 1: it's so much that is packed into his little offer, 630 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,479 Speaker 1: which is a big offer to let your guard down 631 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: and to engage with him so he'd get to know you, 632 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: so he could touch, so he can do and pull. Okay, 633 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: so um, yeah, I've heard of him offer hugs. Give 634 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: me a hug, or do you need a hug, give 635 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: you a hug, or hey, i'll calm your fears here, 636 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 1: I'll hit your abusive dad. He does these things and uh, 637 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: you know it's it's not a good invitation to have. 638 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 1: And hopefully please tell your kid just say no every 639 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: time all the time when it comes to anything hat 640 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: man is trying to throw at a kid or anybody. 641 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: All right, Um, interesting enough, you mentioned something here that's 642 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: really it falls into another pattern. Guys checked us out. 643 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 1: We both see loads of weird things people, monsters, animals, 644 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: and shadows. Okay, so hat man goes after people who 645 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: are gifted. Hat man goes after people who are gifted. 646 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,280 Speaker 1: Hat Man goes after people who can see other things. 647 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: And why is that? Mankind is evolving? All right? We are. 648 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,479 Speaker 1: We're evolving, and we're a mixture of a whole bunch 649 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: of stuff in the galaxy, and we have these senses 650 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: that I think have been dumbed down. Some people say 651 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: from fluoride. Others say, uh, from us doubting and questioning ourselves. 652 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 1: If we experience something and you get thrown in the 653 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: looney bin and then given drugs to forget what's going on, Okay, 654 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: I think this is all possible, But I always tell people, 655 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not a doctor, Go to a doctor. 656 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: Do what's right for yourself. This is my opinion, because 657 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 1: I do believe that there are people who are definitely 658 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 1: experiencing things that are made to block it. And and 659 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: when those blocks are created, whether um, you know, by 660 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: one means or another, we're limiting our knowledge base. And 661 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: you know how how beautiful and open our ancient forefathers 662 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: were right, or they could see something and tell a 663 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 1: story about it that could carry on for for generations. 664 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,720 Speaker 1: I experienced this, how wonderful. We believe you, grandfather, and 665 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: and and we'll pull this in too, our our generational story, 666 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 1: and we'll pass down that knowledge they allowed themselves to 667 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:35,319 Speaker 1: explore and see and believe. Now we scrutinize, well, we've 668 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 1: got technology and make something look like that, or what 669 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 1: kind of drugs are you taking that you saw something 670 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: like that? Because I don't see that. And so it's 671 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 1: like if somebody doesn't see that, it's not real. Or 672 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 1: if a scientist doesn't say it doesn't happen, or it's 673 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,479 Speaker 1: not possible, it's not real. And we are left with 674 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: these big gaping holes in our lives. When some of 675 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 1: us do experience these things and we're brave enough to 676 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,879 Speaker 1: talk about it. You hear me brave enough to talk 677 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: about it, and people like, oh, we're just trying to 678 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 1: make a buck. They say that to me too with 679 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 1: my books. Okay, it's like, uh, if you're so trying 680 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 1: to help mankind, give it out for free. Well, you know, 681 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 1: cleaning up streets as a is a great thing. To 682 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 1: be doing for people should do that for free to 683 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's not easy to do all of this free. 684 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: And I've given away thousands of books, okay, and done 685 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: so much and answer all my emails myself and uh 686 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: answer people reaching out to me. We are all trying, 687 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 1: and we're doing this out of passion more than anything. 688 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,839 Speaker 1: So when people step forward, nine times out of ten, 689 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 1: it's not to get glorified. It is to you know, 690 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: vent first, learn and hopefully try to help other people. 691 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,719 Speaker 1: So that's where a lot of us come from. We 692 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 1: get those people who have never experienced anything themselves and like, 693 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,320 Speaker 1: I am the expert, and I'm going to tell you 694 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 1: what you're experiencing because I have been collecting data or 695 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:14,279 Speaker 1: data and whatever. Um. You know, it's it's a it's 696 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 1: a little bit dismaying, right, you know, it's like gosh, 697 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 1: and I like being able to relate to others who 698 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 1: have experienced things and believe it and not put it 699 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: through a filter all the time. Sometimes we just got 700 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,239 Speaker 1: to lend an ear and a heart to the conversation. 701 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: And no, I know that there's a lot of suffering 702 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,319 Speaker 1: going out out there because a lot of people were 703 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: not believed or they were not. Um, yeah, reported through 704 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 1: in in in the public eye, like to the government. Right, Oh, 705 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,800 Speaker 1: don't get me started to get with that one, because 706 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: that's a sore spot. I know many of people who 707 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:57,839 Speaker 1: just did not live a complete life because they were 708 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 1: stuck in the loop to try to prove and get 709 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 1: that little piece of evidence to show the UFOs have 710 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,280 Speaker 1: done this to me and my family. I got radiation burns, 711 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 1: I got sick, this, this and that, whatever it is. 712 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 1: I had a kid. They took the kid. You know, 713 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 1: they abused me, and the powers that be saut there 714 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 1: and we're hiding this information what they knew, they've been 715 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 1: hiding it. We do this, We've been talking about this, 716 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 1: but you know, for the most part, people don't believe 717 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 1: it unless it's official. Right, We're not gonna take the 718 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: word of that person that says they've been abused. Nah, 719 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 1: they're not gonna go there. So it's um, it's a shame. 720 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,399 Speaker 1: So as we evolved, getting back to this email, there 721 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: will be people like Dana here and her son who 722 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 1: have experienced so many things, so many things, and you 723 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 1: stand out and hat man sees it, so he wants 724 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 1: to block that and he wants to own it because 725 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 1: if you evolve and you are warning others around you, 726 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 1: hey there's something behind you. Oh hey this is going on. 727 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 1: Hey I see this other world on top of this world. 728 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 1: We can be better prepared, we can grow. We're not 729 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 1: dubbed as being mentally ill, you know, and captain in 730 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 1: this captive space of you don't go anywhere with this. 731 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,439 Speaker 1: You know, that's just doubt yourself. Okay, sleep better. Here, 732 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 1: here's something to help you sleep better. We have got 733 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 1: to own the skills that come to us. And you know, 734 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 1: I have join your hired about it. You don't have 735 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 1: to be fearful about it always. So I hope that 736 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 1: this was helpful for everybody. It's helpful for me to 737 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 1: talk this stuff out. They're all working this out together. 738 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,920 Speaker 1: So anyways, I want to remind you guys, go to 739 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 1: my main website, which is Heidi Hollis dot com or 740 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,399 Speaker 1: go to shadow Folks dot com and tell me what's 741 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 1: on your mind, send your questions, send your suggestions, anything 742 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 1: in all of the bob because I am trying to 743 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,719 Speaker 1: piece together this puzzle with you, all right, So you 744 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 1: know what I'm just I'm just blown away with this 745 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,879 Speaker 1: cash of emails. I love the diversity, and I love 746 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: that you guys keep sending them, and I'm going to 747 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,399 Speaker 1: keep on sharing them as we come along and again, 748 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 1: if you want to be a guest on the show 749 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 1: to share your story, also write me through my website 750 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 1: H E I D I H O L L I 751 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 1: S dot com. All right, you have been listening to 752 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 1: Dark Becomes Light with me, Heidi Hollis on the I 753 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 754 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:41,319 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Stay safe, everybody, goodbye. Well, 755 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 1: if you liked this edition of Dark Becomes Light, wait 756 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,880 Speaker 1: until you hear the next one. You've been listening to 757 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a M 758 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network.