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Speaker 1: Or you're gonna make Ocho be's rookie.

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Speaker 2: Luther Burton the Third was kicked off the field and

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Speaker 2: chewed out by Ben Johnson after issue that the line

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Speaker 2: of scrimmage doing teen drills. Burden missed several weeks of

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Speaker 2: practice with a hamstring injury, and Johnson said it is

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Speaker 2: hindered his progress learning the system. It shows up already.

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Speaker 2: I mean we were in walk through yesterday afternoon. The misalignment.

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Speaker 2: We have to re huddle, we have to start it

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Speaker 2: all over again. He's a little bit behind right now.

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Speaker 2: Burden the Third responded very well to the accountability that

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Speaker 2: Johnson gave him early in your career. Did you ever

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Speaker 2: have to accept accountability coming up shorten practice or in

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Speaker 2: the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hell yeah, Man, I forget mabe. You don't move me.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm a wire receivo Joe. They will move me

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Speaker 2: to tight end. They tell me to play on Joe,

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Speaker 2: I go in motion. I stopped, Man, what's the play again?

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Speaker 2: What I got, hey, y'all laughing there you ask me,

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Speaker 2: I'll be going, Hey, I go in motion, go to

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Speaker 2: the tackle, turn the right to come back.

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Speaker 1: Man, what I got? I forgot? What I got? Bad?

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Speaker 3: Dad?

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Speaker 2: God, dang it, Shannon, I don't know what you want to

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Speaker 2: tell you, Dad. I forgot to play.

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Speaker 3: I remember them days, man.

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Speaker 1: They sent me in the game. I forgot to play

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Speaker 1: coming into the game.

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Speaker 2: Hey cause we used to run play like every play

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Speaker 2: we bring somebody in the game. Dad got his hand

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Speaker 2: on my shoulder, give me the play. I go in there,

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Speaker 2: he Yoe, you run how many game on?

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Speaker 1: Joe?

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Speaker 2: Y'all, y'all look at me, t look at me like tee,

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Speaker 2: what's the play?

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Speaker 1: I forgot? Hey? Hey, it'll happen quick too. Oh, booket

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Speaker 1: it Joe out bookt at the game too. I'm like, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm in the game. How many we gave believes d

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Speaker 1: D what's the play?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I forgot?

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Speaker 4: Hey? Hey, hold on and basketball ojo and doing like

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Speaker 4: a time out they might coach might draw up three players. Okay,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna run this play then come back down next trip.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna run this play, then next trip down court,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna so he got three plays and then drawn up.

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Speaker 4: You may go out there on defense and you mess

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Speaker 4: around and you know, get a couple of trips to

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Speaker 4: where y'all make got steals or you know things. Yes, man,

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Speaker 4: you forget everything. And man, that drew up over there.

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Speaker 4: That's how I know you be so locked in. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was the second play.

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Speaker 2: You go to ask your teammate. They don't even know that. See,

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Speaker 2: that's what that's how we do. No huddle, Ojo. We

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Speaker 2: called two plays in the huddle, first one on one second.

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Speaker 1: What we got?

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Speaker 2: Ye? No, Man, I never forget that, man, I man,

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Speaker 2: I was. I was so embarrassed. Man, Hey, I didn't

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Speaker 2: even look at the sideline because I know bad because

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Speaker 2: coach Coach reeld.

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Speaker 1: Get so bad.

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Speaker 2: Coach returned red and he had this big old, big

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Speaker 2: old vein. I mean it be bulging out of his neck.

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Speaker 2: Because back then coaches wore suits on the sideline. On Joe,

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Speaker 2: Coach Rees wore a suit. You know, coach, you go

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Speaker 2: back and look at Coach Dicky. He have on sweater

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Speaker 2: vests and things like that. So coach coach Rees was

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Speaker 2: dressed to the nine.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: Coach Ree was so bad over there, hey, you put

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Speaker 2: it getting that told of that play and I got

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Speaker 2: out and ran in there and forgot all about that play.

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Speaker 1: That's the worst feeling.

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you and everybody looking at me like, damn,

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Speaker 2: how you forgetting to play? How you forgetting to play

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Speaker 2: from the sideline to the hottle? I guess Joan jarred

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Speaker 2: my memory. Look, that's like one of forgetting to play

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Speaker 1: That's them like the worst feelings, man.

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Speaker 3: The practice, late the meetings and having.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, and they already in there going through

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Speaker 1: the meeting. You gotta walk.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, that's that's the worst. That's the worst.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: I'm a I'm late for the meeting. I play the game.

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Speaker 2: They're a offensive player of the game. She had a shark.

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Speaker 1: And you was late for the meeting. I said, man,

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Speaker 1: why is somebody he on behalf of mister Sharpe.

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Speaker 2: I like to except this award on his behalf like

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Speaker 2: they do at the Oscars, like they do at the

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Speaker 2: Grammars or something.

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Speaker 1: Mad man, Hey we got a snow, Hey we got

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Speaker 2: Uh we have played Carolina that Sunday we beat the

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Speaker 2: braces off Carolina, and uh I cooked them o Joe

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Speaker 2: cooked them, say them for a buck seventy four. Man,

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Speaker 2: that's no just another would not cooperate.

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Speaker 3: It couldn't get couldn't get to practice.

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Speaker 2: Huh. Now it was team mean because we give out

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Speaker 2: we give out of the offense, defensive place, team player

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Speaker 2: of the game that Wednesday, and and the Mike's morning meeting.

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Speaker 2: So defensive player of the game, this many tackles a pick. Uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, sack blah blah blah, you know, offensive player

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Speaker 2: the game. You know, John to be TD. Most time

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Speaker 2: it was TD. Could be quite honest.

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Speaker 1: Uh but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's that's a bad feeling because they a

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Speaker 2: as a matter of fact, I walk it in, they

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Speaker 2: get ready to break the team meeting.

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Speaker 1: That's the worst feeling, bro.

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Speaker 2: That is because the thing, it's one thing to be late.

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Speaker 2: It's to me the means miss it.

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Speaker 1: Huh you was that late?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Mate, man, that meeting don't take that long because like say,

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Speaker 2: a great game, you know, blah blah blah, you know, congratulations.

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Speaker 2: That's the way, you know, play start to finish. Play fans.

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Speaker 2: I love everybody where is engaged. Offensive player of the game,

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Speaker 2: Defensive player of the game, specially teams player the game.

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Speaker 2: So the meeting ain't gonna go but like six and

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Speaker 2: seven minutes, right, Being the leader is one thing, mister.

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Speaker 2: The meeting is something intollege.

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Speaker 1: Mister.

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Speaker 2: The meeting might cost you know, five hundred dollars, I

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Speaker 2: mean lay for the meeting might cost five hundred. You know,

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Speaker 2: Missing the meeting gonna cost two thousand. Yeah, so yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I understand. And it's like I said, I need to

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Speaker 2: be there. See it's hard to like pick up stuff

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Speaker 2: where like you injured and they go on those plays,

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Speaker 2: O sho, I need to walk through. I need I

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Speaker 2: need to be I need to be there. And you

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Speaker 2: know you you hurt you on the sideline. It ain't

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Speaker 2: the same. It ain't the same, an a. And in

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Speaker 2: this situation, they are installing new every day. So if

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Speaker 2: you got if you're not up to date on this today,

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Speaker 2: guess what that's gone.

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Speaker 1: We ain't talking about this no more.

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Speaker 2: We we on page two and guess what, we don't

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Speaker 2: pay three, and we don't pay four. And then they

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Speaker 2: come back and they go then they start implementing stuff

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Speaker 2: from page one, two, three, four, five.

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Speaker 1: Oh lord, bersa, y'all, Joe bad, I know what you

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Speaker 1: mean I'm sry. I do.

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Speaker 4: Man, you miss one of the me or you mess

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Speaker 4: around and be late, boy, you're gonna feel lost.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I had to I had to get I

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Speaker 2: had to get caught up. I had to guy, I said, Man, Man,

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Speaker 2: I just went home with off Caesar and I just still.

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Speaker 2: I said, I got to know this stuff from them backwards.

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Speaker 2: I say, ain't no way acting bad. They're gonna miss

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Speaker 2: run and cut me if I don't know this stuff.

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Speaker 2: All right, Guys, Brown's on the Jimmy Haslom felt the

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Speaker 2: need of unprompted to tell the media yesterday that your

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Speaker 2: door Sanders was not his pick. Let's take a listen

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Speaker 2: to what the owner had to say about selecting your door.

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Speaker 1: Good process.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and if you just told me so you picked

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Speaker 2: him on Saturday, right Friday night, driving home the old

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Speaker 2: pic your door, I would say that that's not happening.

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Speaker 3: But we had a conversation earlier that morning.

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Speaker 1: Uh, in your conversation later that day, area the right

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Speaker 1: people involved in.

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Speaker 2: The conversation, or if at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: that's Andrew Barry's call, if you made the call to

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Speaker 2: pict your door, just like, who's gonna start or.

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Speaker 1: What play we're gonna call is Kevin's call, but that's

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Speaker 1: that's Andrew's call and made me talk. Yeah, who asked

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Speaker 1: him that?

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Speaker 2: Why did he Why did he feel the need to

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Speaker 2: share that information on Joe?

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Speaker 1: Nobody? That's what unprompted. So you drift, Mitch, ain't.

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Speaker 2: Nobody asked you what round did you think you were

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Speaker 2: gonna take your new in?

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Speaker 1: Why did you take? Nobody asked you that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so he felt the need and I get it,

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Speaker 2: Yes he's the owner, but it's like, I'm like, bro,

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Speaker 2: if y'all felt, if you feel this wall by your door,

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Speaker 2: why y'all still got the mand be cause they seemed

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Speaker 2: like every time I turn around, oh Joe, somebody trying

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Speaker 2: to take a dig at it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well I got I got a question. I have

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Speaker 5: a question for the chat and uncle Joe. I'm not

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Speaker 5: sure if y'all know how long did Jimmy has them

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Speaker 5: been with the Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Browns A long ass time, A long time.

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Speaker 5: So since two thousand, the Cleveland Browns has had thirty

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Speaker 5: five different starting quarterbacks. In two thousand, thirty five different

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Speaker 5: starting quarterbacks. But now you're going to take it for yourself,

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Speaker 5: to say that Shador saying is one your pick, and

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Speaker 5: that's probably why it's gonna work, because you had no

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Speaker 5: dealings and him being drafted.

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Speaker 3: I'm watch ow God work, Watch how God work?

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Speaker 1: What about all the mother picks you had who pickedould

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Speaker 1: they he is?

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Speaker 3: But he hey, listen, he never he never came out

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Speaker 3: before and said.

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Speaker 1: Nobody else never never did before.

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Speaker 4: Hey, hey, when I look at it, When I look

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Speaker 4: at it, unco, I just like how a young man

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Speaker 4: going about itself man should do you know.

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Speaker 1: What I mean?

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Speaker 4: Like, there's no there's no better way to go about

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Speaker 4: this than keep your head down and keep working.

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Speaker 1: Bro. He's uh.

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Speaker 4: I think he's been doing a phenomenal job at that obviously.

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Speaker 4: I think everybody's been keeping up with what's been going

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Speaker 4: on in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: I know I have, UH.

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Speaker 4: And he looked like he looked like he looks comfortable

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Speaker 4: out there first and foremost, and he looks like he's

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Speaker 4: still enjoying the game, man.

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Speaker 1: And I think this is.

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Speaker 4: Just more you know, fuel to the fire as opposed

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Speaker 4: to it's gonna help him out throughout the regular season,

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Speaker 4: throughout his season, or throughout his NFL career in general.

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Speaker 4: So I understand what what what the owner said, but uh,

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Speaker 4: I think she do it doing an awesome job with

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Speaker 4: all this that's going around, and you can see he's

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Speaker 2: He said, nah, daddy said Dad. He said, I might

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Speaker 2: in Tampa and he's thriving. Now does he have a

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Speaker 1: Yes, he does, he does.

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Speaker 2: Ain't no sense in us trying to fool fooler said

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Speaker 2: Because he doesn't.

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Speaker 1: He just doesn't.

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Speaker 2: But I don't get why Jimmy Haslam felt the need

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Speaker 2: you know, if you'd have told me we were gonna

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Speaker 1: He said. Why? I mean, I mean, why, why why

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Speaker 5: You know what they're trying to do. You know what

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Speaker 5: use the draft trying to break him. We're gonna make

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Speaker 5: him wave. Okay, now he's here, he's doing everything he's

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Speaker 3: Then okay, how can we break him?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 5: He's out here playing very well. I told you, I

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Speaker 1: As is over there.

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Speaker 3: I don't need to be there to see and here

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Speaker 5: He's playing well, he's got the offense down, he's not

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Speaker 3: With the one to two three of the falls. So

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Speaker 3: what do we do now? The one has to come

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Speaker 1: Want, but listen, but why though?

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Speaker 4: Is it because of what they may seem to be

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Speaker 4: It's just part of his swag. That's how he grew up.

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Speaker 5: Hey, really, Joe, Honestly, that's all the collegiate athletes coming

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Speaker 1: Everybody got THETD.

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Speaker 2: They got a little bread, and so it seemed like

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Speaker 2: I'm a prime example of that. I used to call

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Speaker 2: All he said, just be ready, he said, John Ellwire

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Speaker 2: I ain't got nothing but time. The way I looked

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Speaker 2: as I'm here, I still got a chance. It's like

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Speaker 2: to make the team. So as long as I can stay,

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Speaker 2: the longer I stay, because guess what, I'm gonna do something.

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Speaker 2: Y'all gonna put me somewhere and I'm gonna flash something.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna make a catch. I'm gonna you're gonna put

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Speaker 2: you know what, that came from Savannah State. He too big,

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Speaker 1: Find a play. Hey, create a create a job for me.

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Speaker 1: Hey we we hire right.

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Speaker 5: And the funny the funny thing about it is all

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Speaker 5: you're good at doing one thing. He's good at playing football. Yes,

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Speaker 5: he's good at playing football.

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Speaker 3: He's been a.

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Speaker 5: Winner from Jackson State, the goddamn Colorado. And now you're

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Speaker 5: even with.

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Speaker 3: The enemy that's right in your backyard against you.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Sometimes that's that's really hard to overcome. O yo.

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Speaker 2: When when it seems like the people rooting again, that's

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Speaker 5: I sell you what I tell you who on the side, though,

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Speaker 3: Things ain't going right with the Browns.

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Speaker 5: All right, I guarantee you know what, watch watch how

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Speaker 2: I just hope, I just hope he's still he's around

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Speaker 2: long enough for those said things to happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That that that that's because think about it, Oh Joe,

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Speaker 2: you signed Joe Flacco eighteen years Well, you know he's

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Speaker 2: not He's year eighteen. He's not your answer long term.

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Speaker 2: You re signed Kenny Pickett hoping that he got a

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Speaker 2: get Gabriel and and Flacco getting all the reps. That's

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not you know, following it that close

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Speaker 2: because that you know, put all that time in there,

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Speaker 2: So as they get to the preseason on show we

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Speaker 2: get an opportunity to see them guys play, like, okay,

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Speaker 2: he can play, because I want to see guys play

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Speaker 1: Also, you don't know, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Don't walk off the field talking hey man, hey, you

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Speaker 2: know what you're gonna do tonight, or well you know

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Speaker 2: what you what you know such and such. Hey, I

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Speaker 2: want to see you go against another guy in another

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Speaker 2: He's trying to make he's trying to live out his fantasy.

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Speaker 2: He's trying to live out his dream. He's trying to

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Speaker 2: make sure his mom and his grandma, and if he

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Speaker 2: trying to make sure they're taken.

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Speaker 1: Care of, just like you.

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Speaker 2: But this, I'm shocked by what Jimmy Haslam had to

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Speaker 2: say because nobody asked you. Nope, this was something that

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Speaker 2: you probably should have asked. Oh Joe, after the draft,

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Speaker 2: you asked, you asked this, Okay, So what was your

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Speaker 2: thought process taking your door in the fifth round. Oh

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Speaker 2: you know, they said the grade they had on him,

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Speaker 2: that's when you're like, well, hey, we felt that, you know,

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Speaker 2: we had this grade. Now rounds between rounds four and five,

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Speaker 2: if he's there, we're gonna grab it. Okay. But that's

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Speaker 2: a couple. That's a day after the draft. That's two

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Speaker 2: days at worked at best work case. That's a week

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Speaker 2: after the draft.

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Speaker 1: O joe. The drift was in April.

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Speaker 3: Makes no sense.

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Speaker 2: After the drift was in April, and here we are.

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Speaker 2: That's Le's May junely. That's three that's three months if

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Speaker 2: we're talking about that's an Andrew Barry pick.

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Speaker 5: And listen, I can understand if if your decision making

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Speaker 5: being confident about it, like you yeah, golden when it

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Speaker 2: If you Green Bay, y'all got bred Fog and then

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Speaker 2: I would say, well, you know what, hey, o Joe, Joe,

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Speaker 2: he might be on this something now right right, half,

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Speaker 2: they about to have fifty years of prosperity at the

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Speaker 2: quarterback position. But when you've had thirty five years of

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Speaker 2: turmoil and chaos at the quarterback position, with the exception

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Speaker 2: of maybe a year or two here or there, you

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Speaker 2: got one year Derek Anderson, you got a couple of

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Speaker 2: years with Baker. But other than that, let's be realistic. Now,

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Speaker 2: come on, Browns really and.

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Speaker 4: And she do what strikes me as a guy, you know,

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Speaker 4: when them lights come on, Uncle Ojo, I feel like

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Speaker 4: he's gonna perform at the highest level, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean, Like he gonna put on you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean? That's that's the type of guy. He strikes

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Speaker 4: me in. So, man, I'm gonna be paying attentions to

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Speaker 4: brown See what's gonna happen?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 4: They got four quarterbacks over there, right? What they what

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Speaker 4: try to put him on the practice squad and somebody

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. So they so you can carry you know,

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Speaker 1: they'll carry three quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: That's too many positions because the quarterbacks don't play special teams.

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Speaker 1: So you got it though, because.

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Speaker 2: There's only there's only forty six guys, those spots are valuable. Normally,

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Speaker 2: he can play multiple positions. He can play the eggs,

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Speaker 2: he can play the Z, he can play the slot,

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Speaker 2: and he plays special team. Same thing with a linebacker,

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Speaker 2: same thing with the swing offensive lineman. He can play guard,

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at a guy that can play multiple positions

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Speaker 2: a quarterback do? Side quarterback? Maybe you'll you'll hope maybe

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00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 2: maybe in high school, Oh Joe, he punted or kicked

439
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,119
Speaker 2: to something. But for the most part, you keep If

440
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 2: you're gonna keep somebody extra, it's gonna be a wide

441
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,719
Speaker 2: receiver of dB, somebody that can play special teams. That's

442
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 2: why they say, hey, special teams is the quickest way

443
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 2: to earn a place on the roster unless you wanted

444
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,120
Speaker 2: the top Now you top dog I mean, we get that,

445
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 2: you Joe Burrow or Chase or somebody like that, Lamards,

446
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,880
Speaker 2: we get that. But guys that are not that are

447
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 2: not extra like say Starter that when Hey runs up,

448
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 2: he runs on the field, and when it's farm down

449
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 2: he comes off the field and he ain't got to

450
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 2: stay out there for punting special team. The more you

451
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 2: can do, the longer you can play. The more you

452
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 2: can do, the longer you play. And but I I don't.

453
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 2: I didn't like this at all because, like I said,

454
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 2: here we are three months in Ojo and this man

455
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 2: talked about that's a Andrew Berry pick.

456
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 3: It's trying to break him up. It's all my games.

457
00:21:55,920 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 2: They are they are, they are. They did what they did.

458
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 2: They like, we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna show you.

459
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna show Coach Prime.

460
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 1: You know.

461
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 2: They talk about you know, the Mannings, and everybody looked

462
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 2: at the man, even Eli did what he did, and

463
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 2: you know Arch and you know, so forth and so on.

464
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 2: They're like, Nah, you're not gonna do that. We're gonna

465
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 2: show you do. We're gonna start it right here, and

466
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 2: then we're gonna take a little further. We only gonna

467
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 2: give your handful of reps and we will make how hey,

468
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 2: if I'm trying to break it, they say they put

469
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,919
Speaker 2: you in solitary. Solitary, oh shoe, because they say, you know,

470
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 2: we used to communicate it, and when there's no one

471
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 2: to communicate to you, and all you can do is

472
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 2: hear your heart beat and all the only the only

473
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 2: communication is going on in your own head.

474
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 3: And you know what, that could be a good thing.

475
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 5: Sometimes you put people in solitary confinement, right, and and

476
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 5: it doesn't more It doesn't more good than harm because

477
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,360
Speaker 5: it gives you too much time.

478
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 2: To think, Yeah, I want to be a solitary away

479
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 2: from you, sorry.

480
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 1: You.

481
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to be a solitary over your cause

482
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 2: I want to be away from you. Sorry moos. So

483
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 2: y'all might rub off on me, they love. I think

484
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 2: he definitely locked in, though you can see it, bro well,

485
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 2: he he doesn't really, he really doesn't have a choice.

486
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 2: I think I think time has done a great job

487
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: time dealing with what he's dealing with, because think about it, now,

488
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 2: that's still time. So but in the meantime, I've got

489
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 2: to deal with what I've got to deal with. I've

490
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 2: got something gravely going on with me and I got

491
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: two sons that because the only coach that should do has.

492
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: Ever had has been Time.

493
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 2: He's the only only to play for his dad, played

494
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: for his daddy, Jay played for his dadd in high

495
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 2: school and coming up he coached them in Pop Warner.

496
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 2: Time used to take them kids all over the place.

497
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 2: They play Snoop Dogg. They played, end up playing Snoop Dogg.

498
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 2: When because the Time and I went to the hall together. Uh,

499
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 2: they playing all up in Texas. They coming, they coming,

500
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 2: and they driving playing other teams. I think they they

501
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 2: played while they was up there in there in Canton.

502
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 2: So that's the only coach you've ever had. And now

503
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,959
Speaker 2: my dad's think about it. Man, my dad dealing with something.

504
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know what's really going on, because

505
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 2: Tom said, you know, I really didn't let the boys

506
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: know what was really going on because they got to

507
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 2: focus on that. The last thing is to let your

508
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: mind wand ojo. You know when you in camp, Hey,

509
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 2: I'm here. That's what I tell when you hear you

510
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 2: gotta be here now now when you over there, deal

511
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 2: with whatever you gotta deal with over there. And don't

512
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 2: worry about here. But when you hear, you gotta be here.

513
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 2: And so I think Time did a great job of

514
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 2: shielding him, not telling them the extent of what's really

515
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 2: going on with him, so he can stay locked in.

516
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: Especially we know how hard the quarterback position is to

517
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 2: play Ojo. The last thing you need is to be

518
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: worried about man pop's Man, say, pop, Pops really messed

519
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: up right now, Man, I ain't getting no burn. Pop

520
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: I was messed up on a trip and saying all

521
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 2: kind of crazy stuff.

522
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it's a lot.

523
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,479
Speaker 2: It's like I said, you don't know what a person's

524
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 2: going through. You don't know. Uh, you know, you try

525
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: not to. You try to compartmentalize. When I'm here, Joe,

526
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 2: I'm here, and like when i'm when I'm done, I'll

527
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: deal with whatever I need to deal with off the field.

528
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: I'll deal with that.

529
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: Then. Man, you just say, man, I can, I can.

530
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 2: I can brain work home, but I can't take you

531
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 2: to work. And that's how it is. You can't because

532
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 2: they tell you, oh yeah, there's there's more important things

533
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 2: than sports. They line they say that for for the public,

534
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 2: for public, for public. Oh yeah, no, no, no, no, No,

535
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 2: when you play a professional sports, oh Joe, they're making

536
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 2: a buddy le clear.

537
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: The most important thing is that sport. So do it.

538
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: Keep your head up, keep plugging away, boy, do your thing.

539
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: Mike Tomlins says he had a with Aaron Rodgers. Thomas said,

540
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 2: it was kind of a romance for me. I was

541
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 2: just excited to get to know the guy on a

542
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 2: personal level.

543
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: Man.

544
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 2: We have some cool, interesting conversations about football, about life,

545
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: about where he is in his career, and what he's

546
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 2: was potentially looking for. Oh jo, how long do you

547
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 2: think the Roman's last? The Steelers don't start if they

548
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 2: don't start winning.

549
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 5: Listen, remember remember listener, winning wins or losses, depending regards

550
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 5: to how it goes.

551
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 3: Remember how Aaron Rodgers treated Robert Salo.

552
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 5: Yeah remember the interaction on the sideline, the pushing and

553
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 5: shoving off.

554
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

555
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 5: The type of reasons for the head coach. Now, what

556
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 5: won't happen whether they're winning or losing. Now, Mike Tomlin,

557
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 5: ain't playing that. Oh no, oh that ain't that ain't

558
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 5: gonna happen. That's not gonna happen. So, whether they're winning

559
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 5: or losing, I think the relationship between those two because

560
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 5: there's a certain amount of respect that he has from

561
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 5: Mike tom and what he's been able to accomplish in Pittsburgh.

562
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 5: I think everything would be just fine. Everything would be

563
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 5: just fine. All you have to do is listen.

564
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 3: If Russell Wilson can do what he did last year,

565
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 3: and Justin Fields can do what he did last year,

566
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers being at the him, she'd be able to

567
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 3: do just that, do what they ask, don't turn the

568
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 3: ball over and let the defense win the game for you.

569
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Plus he doesn't come in.

570
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: With what he went into the jets were they got

571
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: on private jets, they cought a They're like, look this

572
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: is what we got.

573
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,959
Speaker 1: Take a leave it. Mm hm.

574
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: You know Mike Tomlin runs the show. Yeah, the moment

575
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 2: you you go get around the cab, the moment you

576
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: go get Alan Lazard, you've seated all controlled to Aaron Rodgers.

577
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 2: Because now you're giving up control. You you're like, okay,

578
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 2: well I want this, I want that, I want this,

579
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 2: I want that. The moment the kids starts screaming and

580
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 2: you give him what he wants. So Joe, you to

581
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 2: see the control.

582
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 3: Right right, But that's not gonna happen.

583
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen in Pittsburgh.

584
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 5: No, No, absolutely, But you have to understand the Jets

585
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 5: start with that control and we we you allowed we

586
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 5: allowing you to take the keys to the team and

587
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 5: put the pieces around you. They felt that's what you

588
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 5: needed to succeed. It just didn't happen the way that

589
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 5: they saw.

590
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: Well, you gotta what I think it would have had

591
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 2: he bought all the way in when Tampa turned it

592
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 2: over to Tom, what did Tom do? He bought all

593
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: the way in when Demver turned it, turned it over

594
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: to Peyton, he bought all the way in.

595
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: That's not what Aaron Dead was halfway in, halfway in.

596
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: He locked in now though, Yeah.

597
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 4: Hey, y'all allowed me to write to be wrong on this,

598
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 4: but uh, I think for the Jets he had to be.

599
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 4: He had to be pretty spectacular for them to win, right,

600
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 4: I think with the stealers because their defense is pretty

601
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 4: good and I don't think it'd be a whole lot

602
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 4: of pressure on him. Plus he got a lot of

603
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 4: he got some help offensively to where he'll be a

604
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 4: lot better I think for the Stealers than he was

605
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 4: for the Gints.

606
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: I think the offensive line is better. But the problem

607
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: that they ran in And this is what I said,

608
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: And I remember having this conversation. I said, oh, Joe,

609
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: you're saying he just needs to be Aaron Rodgers. I said, now,

610
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: what happens if that defense isn't what it was for

611
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: those other quarterbacks Zach Wilson. So let's just say for

612
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: the sake of argument, that defense slips a little bit.

613
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you see.

614
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 2: As guys starting to get older, Joe and I don't

615
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 2: know how it is in basketball, you could speak to this,

616
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 2: but as guys get older at the quarterback position, they

617
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: need more help. Whereas guys Aaron Rodgers five years ago,

618
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: six years ago, no problem.

619
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 3: Are you gonna put the sisters of noise that that

620
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 3: with him? He would have succeeded.

621
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 2: He could do it. But as you saying, older, you

622
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: need more help. Alah Tom goes to Tampa, Alah Peyton

623
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: goes to Denver. Look at the receiving help that he had,

624
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: Look at the running backs, look at the offensive line,

625
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 2: all those things going to play. I do believe he

626
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: has a better offensive line than what he has. Okay,

627
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: he got DK, they lost pickings, they got Calvan Austin

628
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: the third. So they got some players. So we'll see.

629
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: We'll see Warren the running back. We'll see how that,

630
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: how that turns out. But I don't think he needs

631
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: to be forty touchdown, Aaron, I don't.

632
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 3: I don't think they have a forty touchdown offense.

633
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: Could be you could be right. I could be right,

634
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: you could be right.

635
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 5: I see that, respectfully, The Bengals have a forty touchdown

636
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 5: offense for sure.

637
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yes, yes, yes, you know why because they defense

638
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: aren't very good. Because they're gonna be played. They're gonna

639
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: be in some shootouts. It's just real talk. They're gonna

640
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 2: be a shootout.

641
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: They don't talk.

642
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 3: Come on, that's how you get the team, man.

643
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: But they're gonna be. Oh, y'all defense they're not very good.

644
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: You see, y'all lost games forty one, thirty eight. Y'all

645
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: lost thirty eight, thirty five. Y'all lost thirty four thirty one. Right,

646
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: you're right, y'all, Yeah, y'all gonna be a game like that.

647
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 5: Listen, listen, this is new year. Though this is a

648
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 5: new year, we don't we don't know what's gonna happen.

649
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 5: Matter of fact, we got football tomorrow too. I forgot

650
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 5: about that.

651
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, this is the last This is the last weekend.

652
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: You won't have football until middle of February. So moving forward,

653
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: you got preseason, and then you know, you got college,

654
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: and then you got NFL college, NFL college NFL and

655
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: then when the college go and then you have bold season,

656
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: you have playoffs.

657
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, hey, is here? Now? Is here? Now?

658
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: Devonte Adams clears the era with Jimmy g during Dark Time.

659
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: It's raiderst teammate. It's amazing. I love Jimmy. He said

660
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: it was never a personal thing. I was hoping we

661
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: didn't have to have these conversations, but I'm surprised this

662
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: is the first time it's been brought up. But it's

663
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: been amazing. We got to catch up on and get

664
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: get on the right page. Obviously, that was just the

665
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: dark moment in all of our lives. I think all

666
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: of us were pretty miserable over there. We kind of

667
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 2: caught up and laughed about it, and we've been making

668
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: plays since we got out here.

669
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: It's so it's been fun.

670
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: And either one of you guys ever had an awkward

671
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: fallout with a team former teammate and had to squash

672
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: the beef once you guys became teammates again.

673
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: Joe, You nah, I ain't never.

674
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 4: I ain't never had no no beef with none of

675
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 4: my teammates or none of that.

676
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: Nah, you didn't that, Joe Man.

677
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: No, I was a fun guy, Joe.

678
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 5: I mean the same way I am on the store

679
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 5: and just saying what was on in the locker room,

680
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 5: same way I was on the field, like there was

681
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 5: there was there was a that was just fun man.

682
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 5: That was a fun dude, Joe. I ain't had no

683
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 5: problem with nobody. I think I got I got in

684
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 5: the one skull for one time, but with safety uh

685
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 5: training camp MADEU Williams.

686
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, and that was that was that was it?

687
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

688
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: Uh.

689
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: I mean I left left Denver, went to Baltimore, left Baltimore,

690
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: went back to Denver.

691
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: Now, I never had an awkward fallout. We had to

692
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: squash b.

693
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 5: I mean, well, well, Joe, I had that one, that

694
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 5: one fight, Joe, like when we played we played the Ravens.

695
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 3: I think I told you, Joe, I don't think I

696
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: told you that story. We played the Ravens. We was

697
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: we was at uh bn T.

698
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: What's the name of stadium?

699
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: You know towards the end of the game, you know, Joe,

700
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 3: I went to catch a slant. Carson threw me a slant, right, Yeah,

701
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 3: it was.

702
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 5: A little high, and I jumped for it anyway, right, Joe,

703
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 5: stay with me now. And so I seen Ray at

704
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 5: the corner of my eye am a peripheral vision. I like,

705
00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 5: I don't even come for to try to go get

706
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,239
Speaker 5: it anyway, and I was like, oh, the boss will hap.

707
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 5: I started to come down and Ray hit me on

708
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 5: the side of the air hole and I'm like, well,

709
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 5: wait a minute, that was Ray.

710
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: They just hit me.

711
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 3: We just prayed before the game, so I know, I

712
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 3: know the Lord ain't tell you to hit me like that.

713
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 5: So Joe, I jumped up right, and I I like

714
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 5: went after him.

715
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 3: I was finished square.

716
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 5: With right, Hey, I was for to put his hands

717
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 5: on you, right, but then boom, I think Ed re

718
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 5: grabbed me. So when Ed grabbed me, I was like, nah,

719
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 5: You're gonna have to answer for that. That's what I

720
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 5: said in my mind. So after the game, right, Joe, Yeah,

721
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 5: I went to the Ravens locker room.

722
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: I went looking for Ray. So I walked.

723
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 3: I walked in the locker room and securited like, hey.

724
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: He ain't no way. It was, yeah, he can't, you.

725
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 3: Can't be here.

726
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 5: So I waited, they was so I waited in the

727
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 5: parking lot. But then the team bus hit the horn

728
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 5: for me to go, and that kind of like saved

729
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 5: me from whoop and raised ass.

730
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 4: But you just wanted, you just want to get something straight.

731
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 4: You wasn't really gonna put.

732
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 5: Like like Joe before every game. I oh, for God

733
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 5: for a decade straight. Joe for a decade straight. We

734
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 5: didn't miss one game, Me and Rate. He gave me

735
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 5: a scripture. We sat on the phone, we read the

736
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 5: scripture before we went to play the game, whether we

737
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 5: were playing each other or not consistently for a decade straight.

738
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 2: How the hell?

739
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 3: We just prayed before the game and you hit me

740
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 3: like that.

741
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, he prayed, he' gonna knock your hands out and

742
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 1: Joe out.

743
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 5: Hey, Joe, listen, it would have took all twelve Disciples

744
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 5: to give me off a rate boy if I would

745
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 5: accord him after that game, Hey.

746
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: You should have called him right down on the field, No.

747
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 3: Because I would have got fined. So I would listen.

748
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 3: You know, you know how it go when you're angry

749
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 3: you don't think logically.

750
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 5: So if every had to help me, I would have

751
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 5: turned that fifty two upside down.

752
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,439
Speaker 3: That bitch with a red twenty five.

753
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: You did the right thing, grab your helbert because he

754
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: docked your halbert smoothed off.

755
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 1: You thought your head was in it was flying, Joe.

756
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: You went and picked your head it up like damn

757
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: that boy, he's something maw. Hey, hey, hey here Florida

758
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 1: boy too.

759
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 3: Huh yeah, yeah, boy, right right from Lakelan right up

760
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 3: the street, man, right right right up the street.

761
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all love No, but that that you know better.

762
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: He called me.

763
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: He called me the same way he caught me under

764
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: my chair on the deep because yeah he got you too,

765
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: got me too, and I was trying to break it in.

766
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: Hit me right aboard of my chair. I say, take it,

767
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: ain't re touching anything. Come pass for shure. Yeah yeah,

768
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: hey that boy wasn't nothing nice right there. Boy, Oh

769
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: ya look at it. Ll look what I got. Uh

770
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: huh that's Piggings. That's little piggy. Yeah, old pig man.

771
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 3: I knew.

772
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 5: I knew it was pig soon as I saw that

773
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 5: damn face. Man, I said, they got to be pick helming.

774
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 1: Crawling.

775
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: Nice boy, Hey, man, ain't pick like heiny't nobody want

776
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 2: no Bengos help back in the day, Oh Joe, man

777
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 2: pick pick, just say, man, take this. I don't even already.

778
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: I don't want to take I don't want to take

779
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: it back home.

780
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: Hey, I thought I thought. I thought the Bengals just

781
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 1: to have some decent hells.

782
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: Huh, Man, ain't nobody want the Bengals was terrible.

783
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now him and Jeff Blair ain't nobody to throw

784
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: a ball that Jeff Blake.

785
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 3: He had a pretty ball, boy, Jeff.

786
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: Okay, just like.

787
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, throw the hell mary that yeh Blake. That's

788
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 2: why Jeff would throw throw the deep ball. That fact

789
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: just like it just come down and picture picture just

790
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 2: run right up.

791
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 3: On him and him and darnay boy. Yeah it was

792
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: nice boy.

793
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh Joe, I got the old big do. Y'all

794
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: still got these helpers like this, Oh Joe, they still.

795
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 3: Like this, right, it's still the same. It's still the same.

796
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 3: You know, we got the white ones. Now you know

797
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 3: they got the white ones.

798
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, that's y'all

799
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: color rush. You're right, Yeah, that's the color rush.

800
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 2: Yr Yeah, okay, oh Joe, we have more info coming

801
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: out on Christian Wilkins. Adam Schefter shares was an awkward

802
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: kiss incident between Kristin Wilkins and a Raiders teammate. Wilkins

803
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 2: kissed a fellow player on the head and the teammate

804
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 2: took offense to it. The incident happened inside the team

805
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 2: meeting room. Report says the interaction was playful, but the

806
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: teammate didn't see it that way. Schefter ads the incident

807
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: was not the sole reason Wilkins was cut.

808
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: Is the real.

809
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, wait, hold on, this is a This is

810
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: Schefter talking legedly. This this was an incident that took place.

811
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 2: When did men start playing like this?

812
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: O Joe? Forget? Forget.

813
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: I understand it's twenty twenty five. It's a different time,

814
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 2: and I don't get. I don't care what your letter

815
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: is into alphabet be you. I'm cool with it. You

816
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: be the L, you be the B, you be the T,

817
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: you be the Q, look plural, whatever the case may be.

818
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: Have at it.

819
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 2: When did mean in a football back in a setting

820
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: like this? When did they start playing like this?

821
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: Ojo?

822
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 2: Whether it after I left the game, whether it like

823
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 2: last week, a couple of weeks ago, you stayed a

824
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: little bit. I retired and oh four, you retired in

825
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: twenty twelve from the NFL, So you stayed a little

826
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 2: longer than I did. So when did this start happening

827
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: to oo?

828
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: Hey?

829
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 3: I don't know.

830
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

831
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 5: I think I think that's plays like that. The people

832
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 5: I hang around based on where I'm from, I don't.

833
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 5: I don't see that type activity. I don't see that

834
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 5: type of Listen, we have treated me.

835
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 3: We have played for Banma, but the play, yeah, we

836
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 3: and we we conducted it ain't like that. It ain't

837
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 3: in that manner. So it is news to me. It's

838
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 3: new to me. I don't know Christian Wilkson. You know,

839
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 3: Perceon Wilkins. I don't know him personally.

840
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 5: You know, I know of him, you know, as a

841
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 5: fun energetic type of player.

842
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 3: He's some funny things. Know.

843
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got that picture when I think there's the

844
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 2: National Championship game of one game and the guys.

845
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 3: On the ground, Yeah.

846
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, bro, guys don't play Look maybe maybe

847
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 2: they do nothing. I shouldn't say. I'm just from an

848
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: era guys didn't play like that and yeah, look, yeah

849
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 2: we horse played. We might nail somebody locker short shut.

850
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: We might put powder or water in your shoulder pants

851
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 2: and when you grab him it come down on top

852
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 2: of you. Do guys horse play around like that?

853
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 1: Yes? Do we soak the.

854
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: Rookies clothes, put them in the cold tub and then

855
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: put them in the freezer. Yes, we've seen guys, you know,

856
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 2: basketball players put popcorn in the guy's car. We've seen

857
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Oh, Joe, not like and I've seen

858
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: some stuff in the locker room. Now, I've seen some

859
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 2: guys play that. Even I was like, y'all nasty that

860
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: grow a.

861
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 3: But not not today, magnatudo.

862
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: Not not no, not no, not no, not no, not

863
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: no kissing on not even kissing on the forehead, not

864
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: even though, no joke, it matter.

865
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. It's hard to say. I'm not

866
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 3: in the locker room. I wasn't actually there.

867
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 5: And obviously Chefon did his best job and describing what happened,

868
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 5: and obviously think.

869
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: About oo, remember we talked about it. Of all the

870
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 2: things they could have said, why did they say this?

871
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: Now? They could have said anything, he.

872
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: Stole somebody car, he stole fifteen hundred dollars from somebody

873
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 2: he forged the check. Of all the things they could

874
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 2: have tagged the young man with, allegedly they put this.

875
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean listen, Allegendly that's actually what happened. You know,

876
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 5: it had to come from somewhere, so that means that's

877
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 5: exactly what happened. Where they'll smoke this fire, right where

878
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 5: they'll smoke this fire. So it is what it is.

879
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: Whoever the player was, they took offense to it, and

880
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 3: maybe they got in a little scuffle.

881
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 5: Maybe it caused an issue, and maybe that was just

882
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 5: the icing on the cake for them to release him

883
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 5: based on the other issues and other answers about him

884
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 5: missing games last year and then not doing what's required

885
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 5: to make sure he gets on the field in the

886
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 5: time man of this year.

887
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, Ojo, they said this incident happened earlier,

888
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: So I don't know if it happened, say in the

889
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: off season, it happened at some point in time during

890
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: the season. Obviously there was there was a diff of fracturing,

891
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 2: a fracturing where they like, bro, you need the surgery.

892
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: He says no.

893
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: It seemed like he said no, maybe they wanted a

894
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 2: second opinion. He didn't want to get a second opinion,

895
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: because here's the thing you could have. You cauld like, okay,

896
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 2: you got to tour in a cl and not to say,

897
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: well you need to get to say like nomal let

898
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: the hell on his own.

899
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: You can do that. I wouldn't advise it, but you

900
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: can do it.

901
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: They tell you to go get a second opinion, O Joe,

902
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: you can do that, and both darkness say the same thing.

903
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: You say, No, I'm good. I wouldn't advise it, but

904
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: you can do that. I don't.

905
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: I don't get why he wouldn't, considering he had guaranteed money.

906
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: He had thirty five million dollars coming to him that

907
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: was guaranteed, so he was at I could see, ojo,

908
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: if I didn't have guaranteed money coming in, if there

909
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: was a situation like Noah bro I need to get

910
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 2: on the field. But he got guaranteed money. And so

911
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: they said, nah, it's not healing like it's supposed to.

912
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: You need to have another surgery.

913
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: Right. I just don't.

914
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: I don't get that. That's what's being reported now. We

915
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: don't know what's true or not. But look, the truth

916
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 2: is somewhere in between this box. Yeah, between the kiss

917
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: on the forehead, the second opinion they wanted to have,

918
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 2: They wanted to have surgery again. Something. The truth is

919
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: somewhere in here, o Joe. We just don't know where

920
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: it's at, but we think the truth is somewhere in

921
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: this box.

922
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 5: Well, listen, what you can do is you can hear

923
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 5: the situations, right, and it's like having a puzzle piece.

924
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 5: All right, we got we got good pieces to the puzzle,

925
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 5: and you can just fill out the rest of the

926
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 5: puzzle based on the actions that have had and what

927
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 5: you're hearing.

928
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 3: So you missed games last year.

929
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: Okay, well but you only play five games though, Joe,

930
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 2: I think you got hurt after the field game.

931
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 5: Okay, listen, all right, we're going into a new season.

932
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 5: You're still not healthy. Right when it got a second opinion,

933
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 5: maybe your second opinion said, you know what, you need

934
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 5: to just relax and let it heal. On the song,

935
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 5: maybe the team said, well, you need to get surgery.

936
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 5: So again, now we're going to another season. You missed

937
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 5: so many games last year. Now the season rolling around again,

938
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 5: you're still not healthy.

939
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 1: You're not on the field.

940
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 5: They see you on on camera dancing around, you know,

941
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 5: having fun and doing doing stuff. That's that's not for one,

942
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 5: helping the team too, that's not helping yourself. And three,

943
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 5: what we're paying you means as dollars to do you're

944
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 5: not earning that. You're not earning that. You're not going

945
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 5: to do that on our time or our clock, right,

946
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 5: And so they made a business decision.

947
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree.

948
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it like, like I said, if he's

949
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: in the last year of his contract, he doesn't have

950
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 2: this guaranteed money.

951
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: And he thinks, like, hey, I get it. I totally

952
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: get it.

953
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 2: But he got thirty, he got he got what he

954
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: had already got like forty nine mini, he got another

955
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: seven coming this year, and then guess what, O joe,

956
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 2: he got another twenty five coming, another twenty five, twenty

957
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: seven coming the following year.

958
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: So he's protected. That's why.

959
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: That's why guys want these guaranteed contracts, O Joe, so

960
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: I can be protected not just for one year, but

961
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: for multiple years.

962
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: So I get it.

963
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: But if the report is what Chef is saying is true, right,

964
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 2: I just don't know when this started taking place. Guys,

965
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: like I said, Hey, look like I said, o Joe,

966
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 2: we ain't look, I don't put I don't put more

967
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 2: two item, gone through so many two of the two

968
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 2: paste putting toothpaste on the guys during training camp, because

969
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 2: I know all you gonna do is just walk out

970
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 2: the door and pull it shut. He ain't gonna look

971
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: back at it. He just gonna grab it and got him.

972
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: I done poured so much alcohol and lit it on

973
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: fire up under the door.

974
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, we play pranks like that, but we know.

975
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: Look, you ain't don't touch a man's you know, boy,

976
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: I saw somebody almost got the brakes beat off him.

977
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: Uh.

978
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: He took his hair, he took his brush, took his

979
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 2: dew brush and caught his pubant, bushed his pubert air.

980
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: With it with his brush and put it back.

981
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 2: Okay, see see, people don't play now, man. It ain't nothing.

982
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 2: It ain't nothing but a brush. It ain't it ain't

983
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 2: that serious. People don't play the way you play. Everybody

984
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 2: don't play like that. And you and you need to

985
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 2: understand that, right because you dealing with Look, I said,

986
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: I just don't I don't get it. I just like

987
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: I said, I grew up at a time where men

988
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: men didn't play men rarely didn't play at all. I

989
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: remember my grandfather and I'm telling no jokes, like I said,

990
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 2: and uh we told the story of my brother. I

991
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 2: just sat down with him about somebody made a joke

992
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 2: about my grandfather's teeth. And as my grandfather was driving off,

993
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: he had his teeth, he had his false teeth. They

994
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 2: were sitting on the dash and got a uh uh,

995
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: mister Bardy, don't let the don't let your tea for

996
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: a runaway.

997
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: Hey.

998
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: My grandfather put that car in reverse, stop that car

999
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: and got out said, don't play. Say I'm enough to

1000
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: be your dad. They don't play with me. He said,

1001
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: I'm a grown ass man. He say, find somebody to

1002
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: play with, and I'm not him man. Probably about five

1003
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: sea here before he spots my grad Because if you know,

1004
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 2: back all people used to go get the gas. That

1005
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 2: should get that full service. O Joe, you know what

1006
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: I'm saying. They ain't get a hey, pump the whole gas. Hey,

1007
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 2: cause you did the windows. And you know what I'm saying,

1008
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you did the window, got the windows all nights.

1009
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: And you know that they do that in Jersey. Huh oh,

1010
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 1: they do that.

1011
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 3: They do that in Jersey, okay man.

1012
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: And so I'm I'm I'm I'm surprised.

1013
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 2: I'm really surprised that, uh and in today's society that

1014
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 2: allegedly what Christian Wilkins did.

1015
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: I mean because he's like I said, there are.

1016
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 2: Some things that like and and and photos that surface

1017
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 2: and I don't know, it might be a it's hard

1018
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: to say.

1019
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: Hell, I don't got the way.

1020
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 2: I don't really believe nothing no on the internet anymore

1021
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: because I don't even know if it if it's real,

1022
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 2: O cho, if it's AI, because A I have have it.

1023
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: You know, got an alligator riding the horse. So I

1024
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: don't even know what to believe anymore, O Joe. But

1025
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, God, stop playing so much. All these

1026
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 2: people in pranks and all this stuff. And you see

1027
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: people walking up and they tried to prank somebody and

1028
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: they do it all this stuff shot that yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

1029
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, come on, come on that. You're gonna get

1030
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: yourself hurt. And the first thing somebody family gonna say,

1031
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: they didn't have to do him like that, or they

1032
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: didn't have to do her do her like that.

1033
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: No, you didn't have.

1034
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 2: To play like that. People, everybody don't play the same.

1035
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 2: Somebody gonna let y'all have it, So just stop, just stop,

1036
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: Like you said, O yo, that's a total stranger. You

1037
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 2: don't know that from Adam and I know some I

1038
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 2: know I got great friends. But we know how to

1039
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: play and we know what to say when we play.

1040
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 2: You know certain things. There's certain things that's off limits,

1041
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 2: and you understand that you did it.

1042
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 3: With you always know what line not the cross.

1043
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 5: You know your friends, You always know what what what

1044
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 5: can get that what buttons the push?

1045
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 3: You know it button's not the push.

1046
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 5: You know what line, not the cross, and there's there's

1047
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 5: great understanding with that when it's it's someone that you've

1048
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 5: been friends with for a very long time. Now, when

1049
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 5: somebody knew like you're on a new team, a teammate

1050
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 5: that you don't know that well outside of that building,

1051
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 5: there's certain things you can't do.

1052
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 3: You can't conduct yourself.

1053
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 5: You know the way you conduct yourself with somebody knowing

1054
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 5: twenty twenty twenty five years.

1055
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: That's why you go in a new environment.

1056
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 2: You sit back and you observed, Yeah, okay, I can

1057
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 2: joke with him, m I can't joke with him, or

1058
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 2: I can say something like this to him. Yeah, I

1059
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 2: can't say that to him.

1060
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 3: You got to read the room.

1061
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: That's why you observe.

1062
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 2: Give yourself a month or two, three months, excuse me

1063
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: to observe and see who you can and can't. Yeah,

1064
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 2: who you can talk to, who you can make joke with,

1065
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 2: who you can do certain things too. You just need

1066
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 2: to be observing because being in a locker room, because

1067
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,959
Speaker 2: you got a lot of different backgrounds, don't Joe Paper

1068
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 2: come from a lot of different areas. I mean the

1069
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: socio economic background, the different religions, the different ideology, how

1070
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 2: somebody was raised.

1071
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: Hey, you don't know what the trigger is.

1072
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 2: You just don't want to be the one to pull

1073
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 2: it right. So I'm sorry the young man, but hopefully

1074
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 2: they get this resolved. Because he's extremely talented. He can play,

1075
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 2: oh yeah, going to the Pro Bowl.

1076
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: He can play.

1077
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he can rush the past, He's tremendous against the run.

1078
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 2: It seems to me that he really enjoys the game.

1079
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 2: Sometimes I think he enjoyed it too much. But this

1080
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 2: I just, like I said, we don't know what Schefter's

1081
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 2: reporting that this incident did happen, but he's said that's

1082
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 2: not the sole reason of why they chose to go

1083
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 2: in this direction.

1084
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: We don't know.

1085
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 2: Like I said, that's what Shefter's being reported. We're reporting, basically,

1086
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 2: we're commenting on what Schefter's reporting. What we do know

1087
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: is that he's been released and they're basically saying, we

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Speaker 2: ain't paying you. He filed agreements with the NFLPA trying

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Speaker 2: to get the guaranteed money that he believes he's old.

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Speaker 1: We'll see