1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick and 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,119 Speaker 1: Kenny Florian. 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 2: I fucking love him. 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 3: I can't get enough of him both the next time 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 3: job the Kufia Crackers. I believe there are a couple 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 3: of absolutely self involved bullshit artists. 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: You're your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian. 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 3: Oh so great to be back in your life. It's 9 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 3: Monday Match Verse twenty twenty one, Episode two ninety of 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 3: the Anak and Florian Podcast. We're going to do the 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: entirest show today in a Boston accent, ken flow. It's 12 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 3: good to see you, man. Your hair's looking pretty good. 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 3: You're back from Washington, d c uh a little south 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 3: of there whereabouts unknown. 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I don't tell anybody where I'm at. That's what 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 4: a ninja does. Hey, you know, man, listen, Uh interesting 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 4: car this weekend. 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 3: It's good to be back. We got some beautiful weather 19 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 3: wherever on at and good at your home. Safe buddy. 20 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 3: How's your buddy Ryan Hall doing? Because uh, it's just 21 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 3: sort of a polarizing thing at this point for mixed 22 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: martial arts fans, right, because you and I love the man, right, 23 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 3: but a lot of fans love the potential and are 24 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 3: just really curious to see him ascend, and it just seems, 25 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: for one reason or another that injuries or COVID or 26 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: something becomes part of the narrative. And then when he 27 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 3: finally gets the good, the big fight that he has sought, 28 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 3: he can't make the walk. So what's going on there 29 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 3: at fifty to fifty. Yeah, you know, it's extremely frustrating. 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 4: He's been he's been very frustrated, had a bad injury, 31 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 4: and you know, is looking to get back in there 32 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 4: as quickly as possible. 33 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 3: He wants to stay super active this year. So that's 34 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 3: the plan. 35 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 4: Anyway, But for one for one reason or another, you know, 36 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 4: fate Love's irony and you know, these injuries and different 37 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 4: things are coming about. But I'm hoping that he should be, 38 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 4: you know, close to one hundred percent in another couple 39 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 4: of weeks, and he started. He's been doing his rehab 40 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 4: pretty much every day and doing some light training here 41 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 4: and there. He's limited, but hoping to be back as 42 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 4: soon as possible and stay busy this year. 43 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: And Danny Gay will will stay on that fight card. 44 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 3: They got him a replacement opponent. All right, Well, let's 45 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: get to headlines UFC Fight Night Rosen Strike versus gone 46 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 3: Ken Flow. To what extent do you think I would 47 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: alienate the listenership if I did the entirest show in 48 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 3: a Boston accent today? Seriously, do you think that would 49 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 3: really bother people? 50 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 4: I find that most people either love the accent or 51 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 4: absolutely hate it. There is no there is no in 52 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 4: between with the Boston accent. There's no one who's like, hey, 53 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 4: it's okay, or you'll love it, kind of like the 54 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 4: mustache exactly exactly. 55 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 5: So I had a. 56 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 3: Media member and I'm not going to reveal this man's name, 57 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: but reach out to me however softly yesterday and say, hey, 58 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 3: I just want to let you know my sygnificant other 59 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 3: thinks the mustache ages you significantly. And then I was like, yeah, man, like, uh, thanks, 60 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 3: I guess I don't cool. Uh. And I said to him, 61 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 3: you know, people really just have strong opinions about the mustache. 62 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: And then he follows up with well, I really like it. 63 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: And it's like, well, are you burying the lead because 64 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 3: you can say, hey, man, like I really like it, 65 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: but my wife thinks you look exponentially worse. Because I 66 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 3: do feel like women don't seem to be to be 67 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: as on board as the men. And obviously, if I 68 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: was solely driven by that opinion, I would not continue 69 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: to wear a mustache on television. 70 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 4: It's questions like that where I respond with a question 71 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 4: similar to, you know what else ages a slap face? 72 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: I just slap it across the face, don't you? Yeah? Exactly, 73 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: you don't. You can be touch touch your top lip 74 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 3: to your bottom lip. Okay, touch your top lip to 75 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: your bottom lip. 76 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: All right. 77 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: So it was sittle Gone about a three to one 78 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: favorite over George edo Rosen strike fifty to forty five 79 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 3: times three unanimous decision. What an easy fight to score 80 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: because not one of those five rounds had more damage 81 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: than another. I don't want to call it a pedestrian 82 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: effort because seedle Gone was dominant and he was scratchless 83 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: after the fight. And ultimately, when you prioritize winning, sometimes 84 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 3: you get a fight that isn't aesthetically pleasing to the 85 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: casual or avid viewer. But U s Gon got it done, 86 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: and he's going to get a big fight next and 87 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: maybe we'll be pushed more in that one. But you 88 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: congratulate the Frenchman, and I guess you move on. 89 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 4: Listen, you know, there were a lot of complaints about 90 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 4: the fact that we didn't see you know, this crazy fight. 91 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 4: The reality is is for me, the norm isn't necessarily 92 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 4: you know, what we should expect from every fight and 93 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 4: and also what is actually correct. I think that a 94 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 4: performance like gun in that what he gave us on 95 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 4: Saturday night was very impressive in that, you know, like 96 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 4: you said, he took no damage that fight. Rosenstrike is 97 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 4: a very dangerous dude that has knocked out a lot 98 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 4: of men. 99 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: How did it go for Alister? Over him when he 100 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: was trying to go for the kill? Didn't go well 101 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 3: at the very end. That was in the fifth round. 102 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 4: And yeah, you know, I think when when you put 103 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 4: it all together and you say, all right, I'm winning 104 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 4: this fight, let's say three rounds to zero, what do 105 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 4: I gain by being more aggressive or maybe being a 106 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 4: little bit more wild than pursuing this finish? You make 107 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 4: yourself more vulnerable? You don't, You don't you know, unless 108 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 4: you are. 109 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 3: You have a skilled discrepancy, which is significant here. You know, 110 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 3: you know, he just wasn't able to do that. He 111 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: wasn't able to get the finish. And I think that 112 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 3: he's still learning. He doesn't have a whole lot of experience. 113 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 4: You know, it's not like he's got twenty thirty fights 114 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 4: under his belt at this point in his career. But 115 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: with that said, I think it was extremely impressive and 116 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 4: we can't expect, you know, all these brawls Rosa Strike 117 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 4: wasn't able to be effective because of that brilliant job 118 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 4: from Gunn. 119 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 3: And I know, as you tweeted, when the rat wrestling 120 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 3: and the grappling part of sittle Gon's game starts to 121 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,679 Speaker 3: close the gap on his striking, he has the potential 122 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: to be a real problem. Yeah. And I often think 123 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: in heavyweight MMA sometimes you have a guy like Rosenstrike 124 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 3: in this instance, who is trying to force that one 125 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 3: mistake and Conan Silvera is in his corner, and that's 126 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: a big part of him philosophically as a coach, right, 127 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 3: trying to force that one mistake. And seele Goan wasn't 128 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 3: going to make that one mistake and he didn't give 129 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 3: rosen Strike that opening. Some are critical of rosen Strike, 130 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 3: and maybe he's critical of himself in this instance for 131 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: just not being a touch more aggressive, And I don't know, 132 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: I think I thought there would be a little bit 133 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: more urgency out of him in rounds four and five, 134 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 3: and for whatever reason, we didn't really see it. 135 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I don't know if that's the best approach, 136 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 4: because I think coaches should work under the assumption that 137 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 4: there are are not going to be mistakes made. 138 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 3: You know, I think that while that again is the 139 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 3: Norman Mixed martial arts, that we see a lot of 140 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: faults and mistakes made. 141 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 4: You have Toro from the point of what weaponry they have, 142 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 4: and what weaponry do you have, what advantages do you 143 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 4: have outright compared to what they have, and if you're 144 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 4: waiting for a mistake, sometimes those don't come. And I 145 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 4: know that I've made that mistake and preparing for certain 146 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 4: fights and that doesn't always come to materialize. So I 147 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 4: think that a better approach should have been made on 148 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 4: the part of rosen Strike in his camp. And you know, 149 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 4: I think it's a lesson for all of us. 150 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: I think that's fair. And you do hear a lot 151 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: of fighters talk about being over focused or hyper focused 152 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 3: on their opponent's strength. Focus on yourself, don't be afraid 153 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: to think about your power, And I think a lot 154 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 3: of rosen Strike's mentality coming into this fight, and I 155 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 3: am getting this from our fighter. Meeting was just about 156 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: sprints and conditioning and being in shape to wrestle or grapple. 157 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: I think he thought he was going to get more 158 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 3: of that from seedle Gon, and for whatever reason, he 159 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 3: did not get that because Seedle God didn't really need 160 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: to go there, and when he did try to take 161 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: him down, there was resistance from Rosen Strike. I would 162 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 3: also inject into the conversation as we look at this 163 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: card big picture, twenty five foot octagon does not just 164 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: produce finishes every single weekend, you know, week in and 165 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 3: week out. I have said before Joe Silva wanted this 166 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: twenty five footer for every show and Dana White wanted 167 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 3: the thirty footer to still be in place for the 168 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: big shows. And I agree with Dana. You know, I 169 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: like the pageantry of it all. I think the sport 170 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: is better overall in that thirty footer. And I know 171 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: I'm in the minority when I say that, But Kemflow, 172 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: you come up on that fence really quickly, and I 173 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: hate to I don't know you're the expert, okay, but 174 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 3: like to me, it's like I'm watching It's like man 175 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: you're up on that fence awfully quickly. It lends itself 176 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: to a lot of grappling, and especially with the heavyweights. 177 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: Man you retreat, you make one step backward, you're up 178 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 3: against the fence. There's no room to breathe. I agree 179 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 3: with you, I really do. 180 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 4: I think that it is a definite advantage for the 181 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 4: grapplers because you know, again, they don't have as much 182 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 4: space to move around. And for anyone who expects to 183 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 4: just strike and circle around the octagon, if your fork 184 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 4: is isn't very precise and if it isn't sharp, you're 185 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 4: gonna find yourself up against the cage very quickly, which 186 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 4: is inherently an advantage for the grappler, no doubt about it. 187 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: And if you're Aljamaine Sterling, I'm not saying he can't 188 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 3: beat pyotr Yan in a thirty footer, but if he 189 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 3: had to choose the cage size, he's taking the twenty 190 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 3: five footer every day of the week and now just 191 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 3: got great footwork. And I'm not even saying that Sterling 192 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 3: can't beat Yan in a kickboxing match, but you could 193 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: be sure if there was a choice in octagon, yodre 194 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 3: Jan would want the thirty footer to work his tools 195 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 3: on the feet. All right, well, we congratulate seedle Gon, 196 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,599 Speaker 3: and I saw my colleague John Goodin suggested maybe a 197 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 3: main event between seatle Gon and Tom Aspin. All I 198 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 3: like that fight, but Gon might be onto bigger things 199 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 3: because he's going to be in the top five by 200 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 3: the time this podcast is posted. I've gotten away from 201 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 3: the Boston accent. By the way, that really was an 202 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: initiative today. I'm gonna skip over the co main event 203 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 3: right now. Later in the program, if we can wake 204 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 3: Ray long Ago in Las Vegas, Nevada. He wants our 205 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: producer Cody Merrow to start cold calling him a half 206 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 3: hour before his appearance today to make sure that he 207 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 3: wakes up. So Long Go's. At the end of the show, 208 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 3: we will talk about this card and certainly the co 209 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: main event, but I want to get to Pedro Muno's 210 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 3: and Jimmy Rivera. What a fight this is twice now 211 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: six years separated, that these guys have turned in just 212 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 3: an absolute battle and great fight. 213 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 5: For the fans. 214 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 3: And one thing that I think was similar for both 215 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 3: fighters coming in here Ken Flow is they are liberated 216 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 3: in some respect by the fact that they're not in 217 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 3: title eliminators at least right now. You know, for a 218 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: while Munyo's had along winning street. Jimmy Rivera was like 219 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 3: nineteen to one, and I think it allows them to 220 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 3: engage with a little more reckless abandoned. I mean, hey, 221 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: Pedro Mudios has always had this style and Rivera, I 222 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 3: think in a lot of respects as well. But sometimes 223 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: I think when the stakes are a little bit lower, 224 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: you can get just an amazing fight. And both guys 225 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 3: went for it a lot of toughness. This is what 226 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,599 Speaker 3: it's all about, kid. Exciting fight, wasn't it. 227 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 2: You know. 228 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 4: I think that when you look at Munios in his approach, 229 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 4: or or if you looked at the way they matched 230 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 4: up against Vera, Rivera seemed to me to have the 231 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 4: heavier hands. It looked like Rivera wanted to get in 232 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 4: the pocket exchange and hope that he was going to 233 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 4: catch Munio. 234 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 3: See. 235 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 4: I think he believed that he hit harder, that he 236 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 4: was a little bit faster, and that might. 237 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: Have been true. 238 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 4: But what the calfkick does it is it is the 239 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,599 Speaker 4: great equalizer against someone who wants to box with you, 240 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 4: if you are in the pocket or just outside of 241 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 4: the pocket at that range, that cut calf slicer will 242 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 4: mess you up. Why because most boxers are kind of 243 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 4: trying to sneak their way in and they're kind of 244 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 4: trying to slickly get on the inside and land that shot. 245 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: The problem is that typically if you want to gain 246 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 3: a lot of. 247 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 4: Power, you get very low in your stance, you sit 248 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 4: down on your punches, as they say, and as you're 249 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 4: doing that, you're putting a lot of weight on that 250 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 4: lead leg. 251 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 3: The more weight you're putting on that lead leg, the 252 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 3: more that calf kick is going to mess up your world. 253 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 3: And that's exactly what Munyos did. That really was the 254 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 3: story of this fight. Like we've seen so many times, 255 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 3: it changes the whole dynamic of a fight. 256 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 4: And yes, Rivera was extremely tough and was able to 257 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 4: push through fifteen minutes and make it a competitive fight. However, 258 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 4: he was fighting with one leg period. 259 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I do think that if you're looking for 260 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 3: answers as to how fighters navigate this once they've been 261 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: compromised in a fight, this dovetails with what Blah Muhammad 262 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 3: told us on these very airwaves a couple of weeks ago. 263 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,719 Speaker 3: A lot of it really is about mental toughness in 264 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: that situation, because Jimmy Rivera, he was buckled man at 265 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 3: the end of round one, and I thought Lewis Gadno 266 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 3: did a great job keeping him in it, and Jimmy 267 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: fought very hard. Can flow tweets acknowledging as much over 268 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: the weekend. Here's a tweet from Sean Shelby, our great matchmaker, 269 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 3: possible calf kick. History could tell Kubis began teaching it 270 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 3: at American Top Team years ago. Wilson Govea was the 271 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 3: first to start ripping them in Pro Fight circa twenty ten. 272 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 3: Benson Henderson and maybe Relic started hitting them soon thereafter. 273 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: So notice how heifies it by saying possible cafki kiss 274 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 3: because I'm sure some of our listeners will will find 275 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 3: some older examples. But what a weapon, man, I feel 276 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 3: like I got to know what this feels like a 277 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 3: little bit. I don't know if you want to thrust 278 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 3: one into my lower leg at like fifty percent. I 279 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 3: think the issue is is that people think I'm going 280 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,119 Speaker 3: to like tear my acl right because I'm not particularly 281 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 3: well built. I am doing some strength and conditioning these days, 282 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 3: but they feel like even if you kick me at 283 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 3: fifty percent. If I don't take it the right way, 284 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 3: I'm not going to try to check it, Kenny, You know, yeah, 285 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 3: I want to feel what it feels like. 286 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 2: It's horrible. 287 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 4: Here's the thing again, Like I said, there's there's the 288 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 4: different levels of it, right, there's you know, if I'm 289 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,599 Speaker 4: if I'm in that low stance and I'm bearing a 290 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 4: lot of weight on that lead leg or evenly in 291 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 4: both legs, it's going to hurt way more. Or I 292 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 4: can attempt to check it where I risk getting swept 293 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 4: off my feet. I will take some damage, but I 294 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 4: won't take all of the damage. Right, So that's kind 295 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 4: of the medium level. And of course the last level 296 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 4: of it is just get the hell out of there, 297 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 4: move your get your shift your stance backwards, and don't 298 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 4: get hit with that thing, because literally one calfkick could change. 299 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 3: The whole fight. It's so crazy, it really is. Now, 300 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 3: there is a segment of the fan base and this 301 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 3: was a popular talking point on Twitter after the fact, 302 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 3: and I think it's because we brought it up on 303 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 3: the broadcast. Actually, there's a segment of the fan base 304 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 3: that wants these fucking things gone, right. Can you at least, 305 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask you this journalistically. Can you at least 306 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: understand where these people are coming from and why they 307 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 3: don't want this in MMA? No, okay, all right. So 308 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 3: their reasoning is because they feel like it is becoming 309 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: just a huge part of modern day mixed martial arts, 310 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: and uh, I guess I don't know. It's not just 311 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 3: like Codder McGregor fans out there that don't like it. 312 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 3: There are people who are like, this is annoying. I'm 313 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 3: sure there's a lot of countries out there that don't 314 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 3: want drone strikes using drones strikes because we don't care 315 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: and it's effective, you know, And that's the thing. So 316 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: or so are kicked. So a sokker kicks to the 317 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 3: head of an opponent who's on his back. You're right, 318 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: you're right. 319 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 4: But I'll say this, it's like, hey, the game has 320 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 4: changed to the point where within the rules, within the 321 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 4: current rule structure, it's something you can throw. And you know, 322 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 4: maybe I'm saying this because I'm not fighting anymore, but no, 323 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 4: I think that it is something that is drastically changing 324 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 4: the game. 325 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 3: And you'll see a guy like let's say, a Connor McGregor. 326 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 4: A lot of people thought, oh, you know, if this 327 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 4: stays on the feet, Connor is going to win, not 328 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 4: if there's caf kicks involved in and it may upset 329 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 4: people and we may not see guys at one hundred percent, 330 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 4: but you know, it's a part of the body that 331 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 4: can be hit. And I think, you know, I kind 332 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 4: of get that reasoning. 333 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 6: But. 334 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 3: You got to keep you got to keep it saying. 335 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's like fifty percent of the fan base. 336 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 3: I've just heard from a small minority of people repeatedly 337 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 3: who are like, man, I'm telling you, like, I got 338 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 3: to figure out who's going to be able to attack 339 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 3: calf kicks, and then I'm gonna bet on that guy, 340 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: because that's basically the sport that you're going to put 341 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 3: out there right now. And for the record, I am 342 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: not anti calfkick at all. I'm the guy who wants 343 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 3: either a ten minute first round or just a one 344 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 3: round fight for fifteen minutes. I'm like Joe Rogan, I 345 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 3: don't want referee separations in the clinch, you know. I 346 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 3: want fighters to have to work their way out, you know. 347 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 3: So I am definitely in support of the calfkick. 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The main event challenge and at 390 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 3: the time it is most definitely Thorian Hi Fash Fight. 391 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 3: How do you everything park will to win? 392 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: It's the main event Challenge with John Hennick and Kenny Florian. 393 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 3: Podcast Quick update on the standings. Casey Williams our famous 394 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 3: fabulous intern tells me to to last week. Team Florian 395 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 3: maintains the overall lead twenty to eighteen. As we welcome 396 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 3: on the Ducky and Parker. On social media, he is 397 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 3: at Ian Parker Mma. So, Ian, you don't have a 398 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: New York accent? Do you think I would alienate the 399 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 3: majority of the listenership if I did the entire show 400 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 3: today in a Boston accent? 401 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 6: No, think they love it. 402 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 7: My accent I've been with Florida for a while has 403 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 7: slowly gone away. When I first started with the Florida Panthers, 404 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 7: people used to not want to talk to me from 405 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 7: down here because they didn't like the New York aggressive 406 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 7: manner and the speed. So what I've learned is in 407 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 7: Florida you got to slow that shit down, yeah, and 408 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 7: not and not follow up on sales calls and actually 409 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 7: give them like six weeks to make a decision on something. 410 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 7: So yeah, I think they like the Boston accent, especially 411 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 7: coming from you, my New York accent. 412 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 6: Though when it goes it's it's like a very long 413 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 6: situation abou Jewish. 414 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, you do. Got to slow everything down 415 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 3: here in South Florida can flow right your expectations. When 416 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 3: you go to CBS for a pack of gum, you 417 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 3: just know it's going to take you like fifteen twenty 418 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 3: minutes because you know average age like seventy three. All right, 419 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 3: so we have got six, well we got fifteen frights, 420 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 3: but we got six selections for you today here. So 421 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: let us begin in the bantamweight division, where the former 422 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: two division or two time champion Domina Cruz is a 423 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 3: plus one zero five underdog against Casey Kenny. Current form 424 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 3: for Casey Kennedy and quite good. He's bonus won twenty 425 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 3: five here big twenty twenty for him three straight wins, 426 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 3: the last of which came in October against the very 427 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 3: credential Nathaniel. Would your thoughts on Cruz here in the 428 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 3: role of underdog against Casey Ken. 429 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 7: I like the fact that Dominant Cruz said that the 430 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 7: egos and get to him where he's placed on this card, 431 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 7: which I think we all agree is kind of crazy 432 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 7: that he's not on the pay per view main card. 433 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 7: Part of it, I think for him, bro now, he's 434 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 7: actually a good matchup for him style wise, Casey Kenny 435 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 7: gets a little wild, but I think the way dom 436 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 7: bounces in and out and takes his angles, I think 437 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 7: he could pick him apart and win this fight. You know, 438 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 7: it's just a question of can Casey Kenny really maintain 439 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 7: theggressive pace that he's been doing for three rounds and 440 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 7: take it to dom not allow. 441 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 3: Him to move around so much? 442 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 7: My heart wants to go with Dominic Cruz as an underdog. 443 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 7: Very not often we get this opportunity, So I hold 444 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 7: Dom here. 445 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 3: All right. Ian Parker likes Domina Cruz and with respect 446 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 3: this whole prelim versus main car storyline, Like, I don't 447 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 3: give a shit, right Like Kenny Florian never fought on 448 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 3: a prelim Okay, that I love? That's Florida. Ew who 449 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 3: does that? What's that? 450 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 7: Like? 451 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 2: Wow? 452 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 3: Normal? So I've got to have a hard time pulling 453 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 3: it together here. But as the president of Team Florian, 454 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 3: how much do we fucking love that Ken flow only 455 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 3: fought on main cards. No, we're good, We're good, you've 456 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 3: got a preliminary final care we're not taking that prelim fight. 457 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 3: But in this instance, right, it's like when dom came 458 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 3: back from the long layoff, he was the feature prelim 459 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 3: against Takaya Mizugaki. Like, I don't understand why this is 460 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 3: some great talking point. You can also argue, depending on 461 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,959 Speaker 3: the pay per view buys, that he'll be seen by 462 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 3: more people in that slot. So I don't know, a 463 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 3: lot of people seem to want to talk about this. 464 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 3: I don't. I'd like to talk about Casey Kenny Kenny, 465 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 3: because I feel like he deserves to be the favorite 466 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 3: here quite frankly over my guy. Well listen, and he 467 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 3: has stayed very active. He's got a lot of different 468 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 3: skills that could post some problems for Dominic Cruz. 469 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 4: However, I mean, you don't see Dominic Cruz as an 470 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 4: underdog in a situation like this too often. And I 471 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 4: agree with Ian here that there is a lot of 472 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 4: value for Dominic. And the other thing is you have 473 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 4: to assume that Dominic is going to learn a lot 474 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 4: from that loss against Henry Sehudo. You know, and I 475 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 4: know obviously he was upset about the stoppage, but the 476 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 4: approach of Sahudo is a concern, and I know that 477 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 4: Casey Kenny is breaking down that fight is going and 478 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 4: is going to look to do something similar. If Dominic 479 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 4: Cruz isn't able to adjust to that, then we could 480 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 4: potentially see another loss. Now, I do think that Dominic 481 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 4: is one of the smartest guys in the game. I 482 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 4: think you will adjust to that. I do think he 483 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 4: will win this fight, and I think he wins by 484 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 4: decision here against a very tough Casey Kenny. 485 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 3: All Right, so both guys like the underdog Dominic Cruz 486 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 3: at plus one oh five. We'll see where that fight closes. 487 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 3: A lot of people feel like me, maby Cruz is 488 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 3: going to close as a slight favorite, so potentially some value. 489 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 3: Right now, I will just tell you my feelings on 490 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 3: the Cruise fight because I'm very close to him. He's 491 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 3: gotten the rounds in this time around, so not only 492 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 3: has he been in hard training for three or four months, 493 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 3: but sporing is big for him. You know, in this 494 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 3: era where people aren't sporing a lot ken flow, it's 495 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 3: still a big part of what Domina Cruz is doing. 496 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 3: He needs to feel those shots and he needs to 497 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 3: feel those rounds. 498 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 4: He's such a timing based fighter right where his forwark 499 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 4: and timing is crucial to his success, and if he's 500 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 4: not getting that in it will definitely affect his performance. 501 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 3: Then that's good to hear. And then I'm just wanting 502 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 3: to see where his speed is at, because I do 503 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: think with his style, the figure eight footwork and everybody 504 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 3: everything else, I think a lot of it. It's success 505 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 3: is predicated upon being fast of foot, and he's had 506 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 3: to deal with a lot of things with his feet 507 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 3: and he's not getting any younger. But I'm excited to 508 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 3: see it. I'm anxious for him as a friend and 509 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 3: Casey Kenny, I think is the real deal. All right, 510 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 3: light heavyweight division, Big night for the two zero fivers boys, 511 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 3: Alexander Kitch minus one sixty five, Thiago Mahata Santos plus 512 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 3: one forty five Ian We'll start with you here. So Santos, 513 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 3: I kind of thought he beat John Jones. Okay, I 514 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: don't say that too loudly, but I really kind of 515 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 3: felt like after those twenty five minutes he had won 516 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 3: that fight. So obviously, the long layoff there after. The 517 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 3: return against Glover to Ero was in November of last 518 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 3: year and it did not go particularly well. Thiago Santos 519 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,479 Speaker 3: is plus one forty five this weekend Rockets coming off 520 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 3: a win. What do you think about this one at 521 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 3: light heavyweight. 522 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 7: I think we at all due respect, I think we 523 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 7: have to kind of put that Jones in the past 524 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 7: because Leonard lowse he would have still had the double 525 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 7: knee injury and the surgery and all this stuff, you know. 526 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 7: And I think with Glover we talked about this that 527 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 7: that fight went to the floor, he was going to 528 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 7: be in a lot of trouble, you know, a long layoff, 529 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 7: and I think what we saw in Rocket in his 530 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 7: last fight was an improvement big time. And it's now 531 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 7: we're starting to see this guy as a truce prospect. 532 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 7: I think he's dangerous in striking the speed. I think 533 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 7: also the reman we show top control against a guy 534 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 7: and Anthony Smith who's excellent off his back, and I 535 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 7: think Rackets will have that opportunity. 536 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: To see, you know what, Glover took. 537 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 6: This guy down, I could take him down and I 538 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 6: don't need to. 539 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 7: Take the damage up top. I went to watch here 540 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 7: and I'm actually surprised that he's not a bigger favor. 541 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 5: In this fight. 542 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 3: All right, So Ian Parker pretty bullish on Alexander Rokitch kemflow, 543 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 3: What do you think you know? For for Rockic? 544 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 4: I think, you know, most of the success of his 545 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 4: game is on the feet, and when you have a 546 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 4: guy like Thiago Santos with that kind of power, with 547 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 4: that kind of speed, that's always going to be dangerous. 548 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 4: So I think for Rakic he's got to take a 549 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 4: smart approach on the feet. Yes, I do think he 550 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 4: should mix things up with his takedowns and things. Not 551 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 4: that he's a specialist on the ground either, but you 552 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 4: would have to assume he's going to be better than 553 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 4: Thiago Santos down there, who to me showed you know, 554 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 4: not only vulnerability, but a tremendous weakness. 555 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 3: And he's he's got to be better on the ground. 556 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 4: He's got to be better with his forwork as well, 557 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 4: because if Rokic is able to get in and get 558 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 4: out and stick and move, it could be a long 559 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 4: night for Thiago Santos. Whilst Santo's app has the ability 560 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 4: to get a knockout here, I think rocket gets the 561 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 4: win here. I would be very surprised if this one 562 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 4: goes the distance, and for anyone who's hesitant on picking 563 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 4: one or the other. Not that I'm a professional gambler here, 564 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 4: but I would assume betting the under here would probably 565 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 4: be the way to go. 566 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 3: I'd be surprised if this one goes the distance beyond. 567 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 3: We could use some finishes. Ken Flow fifteen fights at US. 568 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,239 Speaker 6: I think Kenny was inspired by the Golden Globe last night. 569 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 6: I'm not helped to present there. 570 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 7: He's one bow tie away from being perfect on this 571 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 7: show so far, Ken Flill is prepared. 572 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 3: Let's go all right, Ken Flo, I'm going to lead 573 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 3: with you on this one. Then if you're so prepared, 574 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 3: Isla Makashev is minus three thirty. He's taken on Drew 575 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 3: Dover here, who is plus two seventy. Massive fight stakes 576 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 3: wise in the lightweight division. I'm telling you, whoever wins 577 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 3: this fight is going to be getting one of those 578 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 3: big names next. Mikashev, twenty nine years of age, has 579 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 3: not fought since UFC two forty two back in twenty nineteen. 580 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 3: Juxtaposed against Drew Dober who had a huge twenty twenty, 581 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 3: He's knocked three guys out in a row and really 582 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 3: coming into his own stylistically. This though, is a challenge 583 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 3: that is as hard for most of these guys at 584 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 3: fifty five as any other. Your thoughts on Makashev and 585 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 3: that usual prohibitive favorite role here monus three thirty dover 586 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 3: plus two seventy. 587 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 4: Well, you know, Mahashev has had a lot of hype 588 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 4: around him to the point where I think his manager 589 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 4: at one point was offering to pay guys like one 590 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 4: hundred thousand to take the fight. 591 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 3: I think he was offering Tony Ferguson, you know, I'll 592 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 3: give you additional one hundred thousand if you take this fight, 593 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 3: blah blah blah. 594 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 4: So apparently Mahashev has had that issue where not a 595 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 4: whole lot of people are stepping up to face him. Why, 596 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 4: he's a tremendous wrestler. He's also a very good striker. 597 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 3: In a lot of ways. I'm not going to go 598 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 3: as far to say he's. 599 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 4: A more evolved Habib Namaga Medoff, but with his wrestling background, 600 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 4: if you compare both of their striking Habib and Mahashev, 601 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 4: mahashef certainly has the better striking, he moves better and 602 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 4: just seems more comfortable out there, more defensively sound. And 603 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 4: I think for Drew Dover, he's got the right background 604 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 4: to post some problems. He comes from a wrestling background. 605 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 4: He's not the easiest guy to take down. 606 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 3: He's he's stocky. You know, it's gonna be tough to 607 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 3: get underneath him. He knows how to counter wrestle. He 608 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 3: hits hard very as well, and he also is a 609 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 3: guy that's not gonna go away easily. However, I do 610 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 3: think Mahashev is the favorite for a reason. I do 611 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 3: think he wins this fight. I do think it's gonna 612 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 3: beat a little bit more difficult than, uh than we 613 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 3: can predict. Though. 614 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 4: I think Mahashev wins by decision here and uh yeah, 615 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 4: I do see some some value here for Dover, But 616 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 4: I think Mahashev wins this one. 617 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 3: So I've said repeatedly, if you can find a way 618 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 3: to beat Islamakashev, and like Hafayel Dosanjos was gonna do 619 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 3: in that main event when those guys were scheduled to fight, 620 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 3: you're gonna have to beat him as a massive three 621 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 3: or four to one underdog, and that's what's in front 622 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 3: of Drew Dober. But if if you can do it, 623 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 3: you are on Khabib's radar in a way that nobody 624 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 3: really is, right. I mean, what was it Adriano Martinz. Yeah, 625 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 3: he was the guy who knocked out Islam Makasha back 626 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 3: at UFC one ninety two. It's all in front of 627 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 3: Drew Dover this weekend. Ian Parker, your thoughts on Makasha 628 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 3: have any value for you on Dover or on the 629 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 3: favorite as well? 630 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 6: I think wins everything. 631 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 7: Kenny said, The only thing here is Drew Dover is 632 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 7: probably one of more underrated powers our business envision. We've 633 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 7: seen the power, and we've seen his striking also tightened up. 634 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 7: He's also knocked as robbing mahaschevn That last fight again Tomos, 635 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 7: in my opinion, was a little too wildless striking. He 636 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 7: also gets a little too comfortable. He's his hands down 637 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 7: and leaves that chin up. You know, I think there's 638 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 7: value on Dover's underdog, you know, I think these are 639 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 7: one of these fights where I don't think Mahachev should 640 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 7: be minus three fifty. The hype is fun, but he 641 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 7: hasn't fought anybody ranked top ten to really tell me like, oh, 642 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 7: this guy's minus three fifty against every guy until he 643 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 7: gets in the top five, because in my opinion, Dober 644 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 7: knocked out somebody that was better than every opponent Mahashev 645 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 7: has fought in Kelvin Gaslam, you know, smaller version of him, 646 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 7: you know. So I'm gonna go Lahashev also on a 647 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 7: betting standpoint, though, I don't like it at minus three fifty. 648 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 6: So if you're up going into this fight, I do 649 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 6: not blame me for taking a stab at Dover. 650 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 7: To Kenny's point, the wrestling defense is there, and the 651 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 7: wrestling game is there, and the cardio is there, and 652 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 7: he's got that one punch knockout that could really change 653 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 7: the fight. So that's really the best I could be. 654 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 3: You see. It's interesting because Drew Dober is getting more 655 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 3: respect from oddsmakers and betters than Halfayel Dosanjos did, so 656 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 3: he is getting some respect. But I'm seeing as high 657 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 3: as like minus five point fifty for Islam Mahasha in 658 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 3: what was to be a main event against Halfayel dos 659 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 3: Anjos all right, first of three championship fights at UFC 660 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 3: two fifty nine Pyourian minus one thirty, al Jamain Sterling 661 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 3: plus one ten. We will need the round and the 662 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 3: method of victory here. So we did a poll question 663 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 3: at Annik Fluorine Pod and almost sixty percent of four 664 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 3: thousand votes or so believe that of the three underdogs 665 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 3: this weekend, Ian and those three underdogs of course Aljamain Sterling, 666 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 3: Meg and Anderson Yanbohovich, that al Jo is the guy 667 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 3: who is best equipped to break through. And the betting 668 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 3: line certainly dovetails with that public opinion or popular opinion. 669 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 3: Your thoughts on Yan and Sterling, who wins? How do 670 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 3: they get it done? 671 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 7: I want to put bias aside here, but I still 672 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 7: like al Jamaine Sterling here. 673 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 6: I think his game and his cardio and his pace 674 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 6: will be the difference. We did. 675 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 7: We did see Jan get faster and stronger with the 676 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 7: striking against Aldo and quite went on, so we know his. 677 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 6: CARDI is there. 678 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 7: However, in the first two rounds, if you start like 679 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 7: that at al Jamaine Sterling, he's going to use those 680 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 7: leg cakes. And the dude is also a very solid 681 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 7: and very creative, unpredictable striker, and I Aljo will get 682 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 7: this fight to the ground at some point where he 683 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 7: will steal round. I don't think gun style of striking 684 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 7: in rounds three, four and five is good stylistically. It's 685 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 7: a guy in al Jo who will not just stand 686 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 7: in front of you with bangue out of it now, 687 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 7: although really just stood there and was saying, I'll take 688 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 7: what you can get you as long as I could 689 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 7: fire one back and hope and knock you out. Algi 690 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 7: moves around way too much. I think Aljamaine Sterling will 691 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 7: win here. It's hard to say if he's a fish 692 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 7: all of the cause we haven't seen that happen to 693 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 7: Yan yet. I'm gonna play safe for the moment, say 694 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 7: by decision, but I'm going to reserve the right of 695 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 7: change out to his submission later in the week. 696 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 3: I'm really hoping our audience isn't hearing all those clicks 697 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 3: on your audio. Pyodr Yan fifteen and one overall, I 698 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 3: love you, don't look so upset seven and zero in 699 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 3: the UFC twenty eight years of age, father of two 700 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 3: young boys. Man, I'm really fascinated by this matchup. Ken Flow, 701 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 3: what do you think about pyeodr Yan because it seems 702 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 3: like most of the people that I have talked to. Granted, 703 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 3: you know, Ray Longo is a staple of the show, 704 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 3: but feel like al Jamaine Sterling is about as live 705 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 3: an underdog as it gets. What are your thoughts on 706 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 3: how Yan might might handle this challenge. 707 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 4: Listen, Yan is absolutely capable of winning this fight. He's 708 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 4: a tremendous striker, and I think he's underrated big time 709 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 4: in that aspect. 710 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 3: I also think he's got some underrated wrestling as well. 711 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 4: He's not an easy guy to take down, and being 712 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 4: from where he's from, he has a lot of access 713 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 4: to some excellent wrestling, so he's no foreigner in that regard. 714 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 4: I think that he's going to prepare appropriately. If you're 715 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 4: going to fight al Jamine Sterling, you have to take 716 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 4: away his wrestling skill. If you're able to take away 717 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 4: his wrestling, you have a great shot of winning this fight. Now, 718 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 4: I think that Yan, from a traditional perspective, is a 719 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 4: better striker. He's cleaner, he's probably faster with his hands. 720 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 3: He might even hit harder. I think he does. 721 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 4: However, al Jo has that unorthodox style. It's a rhythm 722 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 4: that is hard to get a handle on. He just 723 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 4: moves differently, and it's just awkward to get adjusted to. 724 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 4: And I think that favors al Jo and allows al Jo. 725 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 4: I think theory to get out to a good start, 726 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 4: and I think that yawn, if he wants to win 727 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 4: this fight, it's gonna have to get it done. 728 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 3: Later in the fight. 729 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 4: He did show that determination and that conditioning against Jose Aldo. 730 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 4: He did get stronger. Al Jo's gonna come in in 731 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 4: tremendous shape as well. And I think al Joe His 732 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 4: main attack has to be with his grappling. He's got 733 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 4: to use those unouthed dux strikes to enter in take 734 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 4: you on down. 735 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 3: I think he can do that. 736 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 4: I am also going to go with Sterling by decision. 737 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 4: Is he capable of getting it finished? Yes, If he does, 738 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 4: it will be by submission. However, I think he wins 739 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 4: this in a two three to two decision. I think 740 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 4: it's going to be a close one, but I like 741 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 4: Sterling in here to win and become the new champion. 742 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 3: Wow, wouldn't that be something? All right? Comin event Ian 743 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 3: Parker Amanda Neunz minus eleven sixty five against Megan Anderson, 744 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 3: who is plus seven to fifty. So if you place 745 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 3: one hundred dollars on Meghan Anderson, you get seven hundred 746 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 3: and fifty and he gets your C note back, so 747 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 3: that gets you to eight to fifty. But you'd have 748 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 3: to put down almost twelve hundred dollars on a Manda 749 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 3: new Nest to get one hundred dollars back. Now, I 750 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 3: think this is a little wide just because of what 751 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 3: Meghan Anderson brings to the table. She's six feet tall, 752 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 3: she only has three inches in reach. Not all that 753 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 3: pronounced there. But if I was to send somebody in 754 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 3: there to beat Amanda new Nest for starters, I would 755 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 3: want someone with a great head coach, and I believe 756 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 3: James Krause to be that. Ian Parker, your thoughts on 757 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 3: Meghan Anderson her chances against the consensus greatest of all time, 758 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 3: Amanda Newness. 759 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 7: I think James Krause is one of the best coaches 760 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 7: out there, and there's no question you're hearing him in 761 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 7: between rounds telling them exactly what they need to hear. 762 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 7: Maybe they don't want to hear it, but it's what 763 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 7: they need to hear, especially when they're down. He's given 764 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 7: the right technique. I think Meghan Anderson here needs to 765 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 7: use that reach, and that's the only way she wins 766 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 7: this fight. You know, we've seen her be put on 767 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 7: her back before. I believe it was by Felicie Spencer 768 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 7: and there was a nightmare for her. You know, she's 769 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 7: good on top, but again against Amanda Nunez, you know, 770 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 7: a man has seen it all. 771 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 6: I do think the line is extremely wide. 772 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 7: I hate seeing that in general, because in mma with 773 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 7: these gloves and anything can possible happened. 774 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 3: I just think Amanda Unyaz is too good. 775 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 7: I don't think Megan's the one to dethrone her, if 776 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 7: that's gonna even ever happen while Amanda still fights. I 777 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 7: think Amanda, though, also understands as she's fighting that anyone 778 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 7: can knock anybody out. So I think she's gonna use 779 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,240 Speaker 7: that ground game. I think she's gonna get that takedown 780 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 7: land on top. I think she's gonna get this win 781 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 7: by submission. I'm going to say round two for Amanda Nunia's. 782 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 3: Hey Ken flow. Meghan Anderson has won two straight since 783 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 3: that Felicius Spencer fight, which was in May of twenty nineteen, 784 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 3: so excuse me. In theory, I mean she should be 785 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 3: at a better place on the ground. What are your 786 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 3: thoughts on on Megan Anderson, Amanda Nunez and ultimately who 787 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 3: gets it done. 788 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, I think Megan is going to be a 789 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 4: tough out just based on her physicality alone. 790 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 3: Amanda Nunaz is typically the larger fighter out there. 791 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 4: She has not faced in my memory anyway, anyone who 792 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 4: has been as big as someone like Megan Anderson, So 793 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 4: that alone is going to be different for her. 794 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,240 Speaker 3: She's gonna have to find a way to be sneaky 795 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 3: and get on the inside without taking a big shot, 796 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 3: especially in the form of those long legs. You know, 797 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 3: a kick upstairs could definitely get it done for Anderson. 798 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 4: So Nuna's has to be very sharp in this fight, 799 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 4: and I think she learned her lesson against Randomy of 800 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 4: not underestimating an opponent and expecting it to go to 801 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 4: full full five rounds, even though seemingly you have an 802 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 4: advantage on the ground. So I agree with Ian She's 803 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 4: got to take this fight to the ground though. This 804 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 4: is where she has the largest advantage. 805 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 3: If she wants the easiest path to victory, this is 806 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 3: where she needs to bring the fight, and I think 807 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 3: she'll be able to do it. Maybe not early, but 808 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 3: maybe in around the third or fourth round she'll be 809 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 3: able to tire me get out enough where she can 810 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 3: go out there and get a submission or TKO win. 811 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 3: Let's go with the champ Amanda Nunaz. 812 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,720 Speaker 4: You got to assume she's still hungry and still looking, 813 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,479 Speaker 4: you know, with passion to defend that belt. 814 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 3: So I think Nunez, let's go round three. TKO and 815 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 3: a lot of Amanda Nunez's coaches just talk about the 816 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 3: coach ability and her ability to not only grasp what 817 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 3: they are teaching, but the execution in this chaotic environment. 818 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,240 Speaker 3: She it just has a way. She's just the total package. 819 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 3: One of the best fighters man or woman that I 820 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 3: have ever seen. Speaking of which Israelata Sonya minus two 821 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 3: fifty versus Yanbohovich plus two ten Ian will need the 822 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 3: round of the method of victory, of course, so this 823 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 3: is a super fight champion versus champion Auto Sonya moving 824 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 3: up first title defense for yan Bohovich. And I said 825 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 3: publicly that I felt like there was a lot of 826 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 3: value on Yanbohovich going into the Dominic Reyis fight. I 827 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,280 Speaker 3: feel like when you can get a guy who's twenty 828 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 3: and zero at minus two fifty in almost whatever setting 829 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 3: against almost any opponent, that there's value. So I will 830 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 3: kick it off there and say, I think there's some 831 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 3: value on Adasnia in that minus two to fifty Rangy 832 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 3: and Parker, who do you like? 833 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 7: I agree, and I'm starting to learn not to mess 834 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 7: with John when it comes to the main events. You 835 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 7: just seem to hit them better than Kenny and I do. 836 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 7: But also if you lose, no one cares. Everyone likes 837 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 7: you a lot more too, so that's not fair. 838 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 3: Well, I know about that. I don't know about that. 839 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean you get the you get a goat, 840 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 7: I get a I get a duck. You know, you know, 841 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 7: so you know being called the goat, there's a it's 842 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 7: a cool acroadym. There's no acting for the duck, and 843 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 7: I hope there is not one because. 844 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 3: There's an emoji though, and I do have my own emoji. 845 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 7: It's pretty cool. Yeah, I'm gonna take credit for that one. 846 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 7: But uh, look, Israel at asnya minus two fifty. I 847 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 7: do think there is value there. I think this fight 848 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 7: may go a little bit like the Polo Coasta fight. 849 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 7: Yan doesn't move around a ton more of a power guy. 850 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 7: I just think Israel is gonna be in and out. 851 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 7: I think that last fight, the confidence through the roof, 852 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 7: you know, the calf kicks, the jab, that left hook, 853 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 7: just everything was so on pointing. 854 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 6: He just keeps getting better and better. 855 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 7: And unless Yan Bohovich can get this fight to the 856 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 7: ground and do what we haven't really seen and put 857 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 7: Israel on his back maybe for the first two rounds 858 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 7: tire mount, make him defend. I just think at A 859 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 7: Sonya gets this done. I'm even gonna say a round 860 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 7: three TKO for Israel at a Sonya here. 861 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 3: I mean, if you've ever placed a straight wager money 862 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 3: line on Kamara Usman or Israel lot of Sonya, you've 863 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 3: hit it every time. Ken Flow Atasanya Behove. It's your 864 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 3: thoughts on the main event at UFC at two five nine. 865 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Bohovich I think is a larger guy 866 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 4: that is dangerous if he hits you. I do think 867 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 4: he'll have an advantage on the ground if he's able 868 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 4: to take it there. But I see a big advantage 869 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 4: here for Adasanya. I think he's gonna be way too fast, 870 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 4: way too skilled, way too defensively sound. 871 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 3: He doesn't get hit really, you know, I mean, we 872 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 3: saw it against Kelvin Gaslon where he started trading a 873 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 3: little bit. But I think this is an out of 874 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 3: Sonya that is extremely intelligent and he knows what he's 875 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 3: doing out there. He has a game plan, and he's 876 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 3: got a game a backup game plan if he needs to. 877 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 3: He comes from a very smart team. 878 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 4: I think that he has a huge advantage on the 879 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,720 Speaker 4: feet and I think for Behovich to take to the ground, 880 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 4: he's gonna have to do, you know something special. I 881 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 4: think Adasanya understands the distance game better than anybody out there. 882 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 4: He's one of the premier strikers in the game bar none. 883 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 4: I think he wins this, and I think he wins 884 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 4: this pretty early. I'm going to go with round two. 885 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 4: I think he allows Volhovich to run into a strike 886 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 4: and I think he gets a knockout in round two. 887 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 3: Out of signing by round two. Knockout or TKO is 888 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 3: the selection for Ken flow Ian. I don't know how, 889 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 3: with two children and waking up as early as you do, 890 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 3: how you stay awake for these these West Coast pay 891 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 3: per views. I really don't. 892 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 7: Because I love this sport, bro, this is this, this 893 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 7: is my thing. MMA is my passion. I bleed it, 894 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 7: breathe it, sleep it. I just don't get paid for it. 895 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 7: But other than that, you know, it's awesome, you know, No, 896 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 7: you know what. I look at it as it's my 897 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 7: time to relax and I just love to fight. So 898 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 7: I'm able to just push through and drink coffee at midnight. 899 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 3: There you go, ken Flow. Any trouble staying up for 900 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 3: these East Coast fights, I know the main cards for 901 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 3: the fight nights are happening earlier, at least for me though. 902 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 3: When I'm not calling fights, it is an absolute battle. 903 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 3: I suppose if I pounded caffeine at eight or nine, 904 00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 3: I could power through, but it's a battle. 905 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 4: I'm old, bro, I'm forty four. I like my preparation 906 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,280 Speaker 4: for these fights involves a nap at some point otherwise 907 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 4: to do it, I'm going to be doing that. 908 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 3: Go ahead, nod and yeah. 909 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 4: So when I tweet, it's probably just so I can 910 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 4: stay awake, right, so I don't. 911 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, some physician told me on social media that if 912 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 3: I can't nap, it's because I'm not trying hard enough. 913 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 3: So that's a new new resolution for me. Here in 914 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, I got to figure out a way 915 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 3: to take a nap. All right, if you would like 916 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 3: more Ian Parker in your life, I don't know if 917 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 3: people would, but if you would, I'm gonna tell you 918 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 3: where to go. Well, hey man, it's not like everybody 919 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 3: wants a bunch more me necessarily, But if you would 920 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 3: like more Ian Parker in your life, if you're one 921 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 3: of those people, it's at Ian Parker MMA. Thanks buddy, 922 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 3: We'll talk to you next week. Thank you, John, thank you. 923 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 3: You didn't like the out show today? Terrible? Why if 924 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 3: you're one of. 925 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 7: Those people, it's like if you're literally that one person 926 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 7: that wants to go and check it out. 927 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 6: If you're that one person, you know, I got Kenny 928 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 6: warming up. You know, it's funny. 929 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 3: I get Kenny. I'm pulling Kenny in. I feel like 930 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 3: you're slowly fading backwards. Follow Did you unfollow Kenny on Instagram? 931 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 2: No? 932 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 3: A all right, buddy, Hey, hey, take care of yourself. 933 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 3: Quiet those birds. We're talking next week, all right. Aargan 934 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 3: Parker with us here for the main event challenge. All right, 935 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 3: we are not yet done previewing UFC two fifty nine. 936 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 3: Let's get to the pic to click. 937 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,280 Speaker 1: Time now for the pick to click the pic to click. 938 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 3: All I have to do is bet on the winner 939 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 3: and I'll never remember. 940 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: John Annak and Kenny Florian. 941 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 3: Podcast All Right Pick to Click, presented by odd Shark. 942 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 3: Odd Shark your source for the latest odds from leading authorities, 943 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 3: expert editorial content and detail. Matchup picks with expert in 944 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 3: depth analysis for each game. They're free. 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You just get me going 955 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 3: like few others. Hey, my twin brother tells me you're 956 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 3: on some torrid stretch in the NBA with these New 957 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 3: York Knicks first half unders and some crazy one came 958 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 3: in for you the other day? Is that the truth? 959 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, we're on a grind here, you know, and on 960 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,720 Speaker 8: a bit of a heater with the New York Knicks 961 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 8: first half. There's some really good spots in the NBA 962 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 8: if you know where to find them. So they've covered 963 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 8: the first half spread in thirteen straight games. So Saturday 964 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 8: night they're getting their ass absolutely handed to the matt 965 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 8: home to the Pacers, and it looks like the streak's 966 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 8: going to come to an end. 967 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 5: They go on a twenty three to five run to close. 968 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 7: Up the half. 969 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 5: That's not it, though, Dereck Rose, he steals the ball. 970 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 8: He hits a buzzer beater to seal the cover, and man, 971 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 8: that's the most electric bet all in all season. And 972 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 8: the NBA is just absolutely bananas. It's one of those 973 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 8: ones you're in the living room by yourself and you 974 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 8: jump off the couch right just because totally unexpected. I 975 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 8: was going to change a channel, but I was like, 976 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 8: I'll see you through, and you know, they just went 977 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 8: nuts and covered and it was the guy bananas. 978 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 3: And that I'm the guy who probably had like the 979 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 3: ripped up ticket trying to like tape back together at 980 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 3: that point. 981 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 8: You know, absolutely, So, yeah, NBA, we're on that grind, right. 982 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 8: It's it's much different post football world. When NFL is here, 983 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 8: we're kind of it's the same thing every week. You know, 984 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 8: you start your research on the Monday, you do your interviews, 985 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 8: you do your picks, you do your writing, you do 986 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,359 Speaker 8: all your social media stuff, and you watch a play 987 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 8: out on the weekend, and you do it all over 988 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 8: again for twenty weeks. 989 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 3: Right. 990 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 8: But we're on the NBA right now. We got March 991 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 8: Madness coming up. We've got Major League Baseball coming up. 992 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 8: But first we got UFC two fifty nine and no exaggeration, guys, 993 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 8: from top to bottom. On paper, this part has the 994 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 8: potential to be a top ten UFC event. 995 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 6: Of all time. 996 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I love it on This one. 997 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 5: Would make for a pretty decent fight night Kart. I'm true. 998 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 3: It's a true couple main event level prelims. You're absolutely right. 999 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,839 Speaker 3: I want to start with the fight that I think 1000 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 3: seems to be most compelling from a betting perspective of 1001 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 3: the three title fights. And maybe I'm wrong on that, 1002 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 3: but al Jamaine Sterling in most places is a slight 1003 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 3: underdog right now. Pyotr Jan minus one thirty or so, 1004 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 3: maybe you can get Algael plus one ten or so. 1005 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,800 Speaker 3: And most of the experts and fighters that I talked to, 1006 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,439 Speaker 3: like al Jamaine Sterling stylistically love the matchup for him. 1007 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 3: And even though I have found some pro fighters Joe 1008 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 3: who are picking pyoder Yan, they're not nearly as bullish 1009 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 3: as the people on the Sterling side. So what are 1010 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 3: your thoughts on this fight and will you have a wager? 1011 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 8: Well, I seem to be against the consensus of the 1012 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,879 Speaker 8: people that you know anyway, So I bought portre Jon 1013 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 8: stock a long time ago, and I'm not selling anything soon, guys. 1014 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 8: So very interesting situation here for Sterling. He's coming off 1015 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 8: a perfect fight, perhaps the best performance of his career, 1016 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 8: and it's even more impressive to see what Corey Sandhagen 1017 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 8: has done since that fight. Right, So, as a result 1018 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 8: of that, maybe a little bit of recency bias, maybe 1019 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 8: some people do expect a similar result in a wrestler 1020 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 8: slash graftler versus a primary striker type of a fight. 1021 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 8: But if you pull back here you take a look 1022 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 8: at the bigger sample size, I'm kind of surprise to 1023 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 8: see this Sterling averages just one point eight to nine 1024 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 8: takedans per fifteen minutes in the cage, a twenty nine 1025 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 8: percent takedan actoracy. I was very surprised to see this 1026 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 8: UFC stats dot Com, where I do a lot of 1027 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 8: my research, so very surprised to see that. So on 1028 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 8: the other side we have the chant Yoturion. He has 1029 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 8: an eighty eight percent takedown the fence and there's not 1030 00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 8: a whole lot there's no evidence that he can be 1031 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 8: dominated in the wrestling slash grappling aspect of the fight. 1032 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 8: I did think he did defend the take that very 1033 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,839 Speaker 8: well in the Jose also Jose although fight who did 1034 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 8: shoot on him a couple of times and he had 1035 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,319 Speaker 8: no success there. So that said, I do think Jan 1036 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 8: has a clear striking advantage definitely in his hands. He's 1037 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,839 Speaker 8: got to avoid those kicks though, because that's what got 1038 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,800 Speaker 8: sand Haagen in trouble. That's what ended up leading to 1039 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 8: Sterling being able to drag him to the mat. He 1040 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 8: kind of half caught his kick and get him to 1041 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 8: the mat and we know what happened there. So I 1042 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 8: think it's going to be a close fight. And Yon 1043 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 8: did open at minus one forty five and Now, this 1044 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 8: one's coming down a bit because it seems to be 1045 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 8: money coming in on Sterling, but I'm going to stick 1046 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 8: with the champion to retain here a close fight in 1047 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,839 Speaker 8: what could be the fight of the night. 1048 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, John, I think it's going to be a close 1049 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 4: fight as well, But I can't wait to see it. 1050 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:55,319 Speaker 3: Man. 1051 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 4: You know, Nunas is a huge favorite in this one 1052 00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 4: against Megan Anderson. 1053 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 3: How do you see this one? Where's the value? 1054 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:03,879 Speaker 5: Well that's a question, right noon. 1055 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 8: As is my pick here, but you know, you need 1056 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 8: to find some value because minus twelve hundred that's a 1057 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 8: non starter, and she is my pick. You know, I 1058 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 8: don't see myself picking against her anytime soon, especially. 1059 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 5: In this fight. 1060 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 8: Anderson just too inconsistent really, and I don't think that 1061 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 8: she does have the skill set to take down the 1062 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 8: goat of women's MMA. So where do we find some value? 1063 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 8: And I do think we find some value with the 1064 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 8: over one and a half rounds that's coming in at 1065 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 8: a very reasonable price of minus one fifteen Sonnez. 1066 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 5: She's an all or nothing fighter. 1067 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,239 Speaker 8: In terms of the length of her fights, meaning they 1068 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 8: usually end very quickly or they go to decisions. 1069 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 5: So check this out. 1070 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:48,799 Speaker 6: Here. 1071 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 8: Last eleven fights, she ended six of them in the 1072 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,239 Speaker 8: first round, four of them went to decision, and one 1073 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 8: ended in the fifth round. 1074 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,240 Speaker 5: That was the TKO over Raquel Pennington. 1075 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 8: The more recent trend has seen four of her last 1076 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:07,240 Speaker 8: six fights go into the fifth round. So stylistically, Megan Anderson, 1077 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 8: I do think she does present a bit of an 1078 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:15,720 Speaker 8: interesting challenge, most notably because of her size and because 1079 00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 8: I don't think that she's gonna engage at the same 1080 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 8: level like a Holly Holm or Chris Cyborg did. We 1081 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 8: saw what happened to them when they engaged with Amanda Noons. 1082 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 8: It was lights out fairly early into the fight. And 1083 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,279 Speaker 8: also Anderson not an incredibly active striker, and I do 1084 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 8: think it might take Nunez a little bit of time 1085 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 8: to find her range here. So I do like the 1086 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 8: over one and a half rounds in that fight. I 1087 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 8: think that's where you do find your best value. 1088 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm allowed to say it, but 1089 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 3: I love that Ken flow right that over seven and 1090 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,360 Speaker 3: a half minutes. I mean, I know you picked. I 1091 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,400 Speaker 3: think Kenny picked Amanda Noonez in round three, but that 1092 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 3: seems pretty pretty enticing. I would think. I think Megan 1093 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 3: Anderson certainly can extend her into round two, and I'm 1094 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,840 Speaker 3: I'm not sure Amanda Nunez, with her sort of forsome 1095 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 3: mistake mentality at times, is trying to dust her inside 1096 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 3: of five minutes, We'll see all right. Main event Yan 1097 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 3: Behovid versus Israel, A lot of Sonya seems like, at 1098 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 3: least on this show. The consensus is that Autasnya is 1099 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 3: valuable below Monas three hundred. He's twenty and oh. If 1100 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 3: you bet on him twenty times, you're twenty in oh. 1101 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 3: But again, he is the one moving up here, and 1102 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:26,960 Speaker 3: there's a lot to like. When it comes to the 1103 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 3: Bohovich side, Are you on a particular fighter around prop? 1104 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 3: How do you see the main event playing out moment? 1105 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 8: Well, my best BET's going to be a prop and 1106 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 8: I'll tell you why. It's because I think that the 1107 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 8: odds for this, I think that the fight is much 1108 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,719 Speaker 8: closer than the odds do indicate, and I'm conflicted with 1109 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 8: who depicts. So in one corner we have quite possibly 1110 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 8: the ascension of maybe an all time great. That's a 1111 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 8: path that this is looking like for Adasanya. But in 1112 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 8: the other corner we have one of the most chronically 1113 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 8: underrated and maybe the most undervalued fighter from a betting 1114 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 8: perspective ever right in UFC history, And let me tell 1115 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:07,920 Speaker 8: you why. 1116 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 5: So check this out. 1117 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 8: We know that Blahovich is on this run, right, He's 1118 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 8: won eight of his last nine fights. He closed as 1119 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,800 Speaker 8: an underdog in eight of those fights. Guys on this 1120 00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 8: run that he closed as an underdog in eight of 1121 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 8: those fights. So we just chronically undervalued everyone. We always 1122 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 8: overlook this guy. You take a look at the striking differential, 1123 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 8: the significant striking differential journalist running is on some of 1124 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 8: these fights, it's not even closed. So I do think 1125 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 8: that there is a little bit value on him. You know, 1126 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 8: we have seen guys go up and wait before, and 1127 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 8: we've seen a backfire from time to time. You know, 1128 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 8: Max Holloway didn't look so good when he moved up 1129 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 8: to one fifty five fight that dusin courier. Of course, 1130 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,160 Speaker 8: we know the economy Gregor and ats stuff, but uh, 1131 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,400 Speaker 8: you know, Anasanya probably wins. I do think there's some 1132 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 8: value in Belahovich. But as they say in betting, there's 1133 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 8: no value in betting on a loser, so not a 1134 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,320 Speaker 8: whole lot of interest in taking a side here, But 1135 00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,279 Speaker 8: I do like the over one over sorry two and 1136 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,760 Speaker 8: a half rounds, and that's coming in at minus one forty, 1137 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,360 Speaker 8: So I do think we have the potential for a 1138 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 8: bit of a long feeling end process here. Reason being 1139 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:17,080 Speaker 8: both guys great counter strikers, so expect maybe a little 1140 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 8: bit of patience here Adasaani. I likely don't see him 1141 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,359 Speaker 8: in a rush to blast off right off the bat. 1142 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 8: You know a couple of different reasons. He's making his 1143 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,239 Speaker 8: debut at the bigger weight class, and even in his 1144 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 8: most recent fight versus Costa, which he did end in 1145 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 8: the second round, but you know he was fining to 1146 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 8: chip away at leg kicks for the start of that fight, 1147 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,840 Speaker 8: and then you take a look at the champ. It 1148 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,479 Speaker 8: would be a god awful strategy if he just runs 1149 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 8: out of here in the first round and starts throwing bombs, 1150 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 8: you know what I mean. 1151 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 5: So I don't think that's he's Probably he's smart enough guy. 1152 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,359 Speaker 8: He's gonna watch a tape and he's gonna know what's 1153 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 8: gonna happen if he's going to just be in there 1154 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 8: at throwing bombs and blast them off. 1155 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 5: Right off the bat. Plus, outside of the Calvin Gasolon 1156 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:00,080 Speaker 5: fight this. 1157 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,239 Speaker 8: Sanya doesn't really get hit a whole lot, does he, 1158 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 8: So I think he would be a hard guy to 1159 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,759 Speaker 8: finish inside of the two and a half rounds. And 1160 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 8: I do think we're going to see some patience from 1161 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 8: at Asnia and Bahoviitch. He's a hard guy to put 1162 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,320 Speaker 8: away as well. And you think a look at Asignia. 1163 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 8: Over the course of his. 1164 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 5: UFC career, he's gone the decision. 1165 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,960 Speaker 8: More than half of his fight's average fight time at 1166 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 8: fifteen minutes and seven seconds. 1167 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,320 Speaker 5: So I think we're in for a little bit of 1168 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 5: a longer fight there. 1169 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 3: So I like the over two and a half rounds, 1170 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 3: and I love the analysis. It's like when you're playing 1171 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,279 Speaker 3: unders in football. It's kind of hard as a fan 1172 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,759 Speaker 3: because you got a root against points, so everybody's doing 1173 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 3: well and you're like, oh, you know, you're rooting for 1174 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 3: a boring, slow game. So I do think it's hard 1175 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 3: sometimes playing the over Joe, because you're sitting around rooting 1176 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 3: for just you know, guys to stall and run clock. 1177 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 3: It makes it for a hard view, but I understand why. 1178 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 3: You see the value. 1179 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, you want to see them pushing up against the cage, 1180 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,879 Speaker 8: you know, not a whole lot of action. Everyone else 1181 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,840 Speaker 8: is throwing their hands up in the air complaining this 1182 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,360 Speaker 8: fight's boring. But that's exactly what I from the betting perspective. 1183 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:02,880 Speaker 8: You know, they can turn up the pace in the 1184 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,759 Speaker 8: second half of the fight, but yeah, you know, let's 1185 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 8: keep it slow. Let's be nice and patient here in 1186 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 8: the first half of the fight. 1187 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:08,879 Speaker 5: Guys. 1188 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 3: All right, Well, you can get more from Joe on 1189 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 3: social media. Paper Chaser Joe jtfoz is the Twitter handle 1190 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 3: his show, Guys and bets at oddshark dot com. Great 1191 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 3: to see him, my man. You always brighten up my 1192 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:20,920 Speaker 3: pay per vieweek and a good way to get us 1193 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,640 Speaker 3: started here for UFC two to fifty nine. And this 1194 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 3: is a two pay per view month, so we will 1195 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 3: talk to you in about three weeks. 1196 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,600 Speaker 5: Awesome, guys, I'm looking forward to it. Thanks for having 1197 00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:30,880 Speaker 5: me on. Good luck to you, and good luck to 1198 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 5: all the listeners out there. 1199 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,319 Speaker 3: Thank you, buddy. There he is Joe Osborne with us 1200 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,200 Speaker 3: for the Pick to Click today. And it's always an 1201 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,160 Speaker 3: interesting perspective to get, especially I thought when it comes 1202 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 3: to the piodr Yan stuff, right, because if you are 1203 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,400 Speaker 3: judging based upon the film that is out there. This 1204 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 3: is not a guy who has been challenged in that 1205 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 3: capacity a whole lot, but when he has been, he 1206 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,520 Speaker 3: has held up. And I do think that numbers are interesting, right, Like, 1207 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 3: I go both ways on him, but when you talk 1208 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 3: about al Jamaine Sterling's takedown accuracy, I immediately want to 1209 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,279 Speaker 3: see how many attempts he had against each guy and 1210 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,840 Speaker 3: what were the circumstances surrounding it, because that is a 1211 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 3: valuable number to hear, right for me, especially at the 1212 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,919 Speaker 3: beginning of fight week, I'm thinking that's something I want 1213 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 3: to sort of follow up on a little bit, you. 1214 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,839 Speaker 4: Know, absolutely, I mean, Yann is no joking and listen, 1215 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 4: he's still a new champion. There's still a lot that 1216 00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,360 Speaker 4: we don't know about him, and I think we're going 1217 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,360 Speaker 4: to find out exactly h what kind of fighter this 1218 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 4: guy is when he faces a very tough out in Sterling. 1219 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 3: All Right, I want to get to a few other 1220 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 3: things on UFC Fight Night from last weekend before we 1221 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 3: effort to wake up Ray Longo so putting a bow 1222 00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 3: on Pedro Muno's and Jimmy Rivera. Pedro Muno's has never 1223 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,560 Speaker 3: been finished in almost thirty pro fights. Kenny despite a 1224 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:43,840 Speaker 3: style that puts him in harm's way repeatedly. And I 1225 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 3: sort of I didn't quote this to you when I 1226 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:47,800 Speaker 3: talked to him, but I did say that after the 1227 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,680 Speaker 3: FRANKI Edgar fight, there were people out there who maybe 1228 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 3: question your approach and the hit ability, even though you're 1229 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 3: the forward moving guy who's forcing the issue and it 1230 00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,440 Speaker 3: was a very close fight. But you know, his style 1231 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:04,000 Speaker 3: really is to move forward and he does enjoy entertaining. 1232 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 3: And I think when you can produce like this and 1233 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,400 Speaker 3: clearly win a fight and still win a Fight of 1234 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 3: the night bonus, I just think that for a guy 1235 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,240 Speaker 3: who's had some difficult obstacles to overcome in terms of 1236 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 3: his championship trajectory in the UFC, I think this win 1237 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 3: has to be very validating for him. I think in 1238 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 3: terms of his style and that even though he takes 1239 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 3: some damage, he can still be champion with the style. 1240 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,320 Speaker 3: In my humble opinion, no question, listen, I think he 1241 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,840 Speaker 3: has found success. You know. 1242 00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,480 Speaker 4: I think we could point to guys like you know, 1243 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:38,360 Speaker 4: Tony Ferguson and other guys who had that success as well. 1244 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,280 Speaker 3: And is it long term? 1245 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,480 Speaker 4: I don't think it is, to be honest, because you 1246 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 4: have a good chin until one day you don't. And 1247 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 4: I think that that's if you're looking to be in 1248 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 4: this game for a long long time. I don't know 1249 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,840 Speaker 4: if it's the best approach, but you can't question the 1250 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 4: results and what he's had in the short term anyway. 1251 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,440 Speaker 4: And he's key fantastic and is improving his offense as well, 1252 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 4: So that's exactly what you like to see if you 1253 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 4: have that style. 1254 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,800 Speaker 3: He's always been an interesting fighter for me because of 1255 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 3: the Brazilian jiu jitsu credentials, right, I mean, nobody really 1256 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 3: wants to mess with him on the ground. He's got 1257 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 3: that absolutely killer guillotine. But yeah, I mean al Jamaine 1258 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,320 Speaker 3: Sterling didn't fight his fight, and Frankie Edgar was able 1259 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,800 Speaker 3: to laterally move and land and stick and move and 1260 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 3: all that. But I don't know, I just really like 1261 00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:25,760 Speaker 3: both of those guys. I feel like this is like 1262 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,000 Speaker 3: my favorite division right now. I just when you look 1263 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 3: at that top top fifteen, one hundred and thirty five 1264 00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,880 Speaker 3: pounds is absolutely awesome, and light heavyweight is pretty intriguing 1265 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 3: as well. We talk about a big weekend forthcoming here 1266 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,040 Speaker 3: at UFC two to fifty nine, but want to get 1267 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,520 Speaker 3: your thoughts on the co headliner from last weekend, magamet 1268 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,120 Speaker 3: Ankliab over Nikita Krilov unanimous decision, twenty nine to twenty 1269 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 3: eight times three. No finish this time for magamet Ankalaya, 1270 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 3: but it's going to be in the top seven or 1271 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 3: eight and increasingly a guy to keep an eye on, 1272 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,240 Speaker 3: I would think for you at two oh five, yeah, listen, 1273 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:53,960 Speaker 3: I'll see this. 1274 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,320 Speaker 4: I think that perhaps his stock dropped a little bit, 1275 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 4: but I also think that Kriloff showed that he is 1276 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:01,760 Speaker 4: a much improoved striker. 1277 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 3: He looked great in that first round. 1278 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,360 Speaker 4: I thought he did a great job of pressuring Uncleliave, 1279 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 4: landing some good strikes that I don't think Uncle Ive 1280 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,080 Speaker 4: suck coming. And he was giving him a little bit 1281 00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,120 Speaker 4: of trouble there with the takedowns early on. 1282 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:16,360 Speaker 3: Once Uncle I have. 1283 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 4: Kind of understood what he was trying to do, he 1284 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,080 Speaker 4: seemed to settle down and started utilizing his own takedowns 1285 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,320 Speaker 4: to win the fight. I thought it was a great 1286 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,640 Speaker 4: way to adapt during the fight. I just thought that 1287 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 4: Unclelave would have been a far superior striker to Creelav 1288 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,000 Speaker 4: and that just wasn't the case. And it's both because 1289 00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:33,760 Speaker 4: I think. 1290 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,760 Speaker 3: Unclelav Or I may have overrated Uncle Ive to a 1291 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:40,240 Speaker 3: certain extent and underrated Kreelof as a striker as well. 1292 00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,320 Speaker 3: So I think Kreeloff is tougher than we thought. I 1293 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,919 Speaker 3: guess I'll speak to myself, I thought, and Unclelave maybe 1294 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,680 Speaker 3: you know, still has some work to do, but still 1295 00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,240 Speaker 3: an excellent win and a guy to watch in that division, 1296 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,200 Speaker 3: no question. I really enjoyed the women's flyweight affair on 1297 00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,440 Speaker 3: the main car between Montana de la Rosa and Maida 1298 00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,760 Speaker 3: Bueno Silva. Went to a majority draw. Nice to see 1299 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,120 Speaker 3: that point deduction in round one. You absolutely have to 1300 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,280 Speaker 3: take a point away anything for me. On Alex Caceras 1301 01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,440 Speaker 3: big picture right four fight winning streak. Now, he doesn't 1302 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,280 Speaker 3: remember this conversation that I had with him. Okay, I 1303 01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,960 Speaker 3: can be pretty forgettable, I understand. But we were in Manila. 1304 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:15,880 Speaker 3: It was me, him and Brian Stan at a bar. 1305 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,440 Speaker 3: He gets knocked out by Francisco Rivera in like twenty 1306 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,919 Speaker 3: one seconds. This is Manila, twenty fifteen. So he's lost 1307 01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:23,440 Speaker 3: three in a row, the last of which was a 1308 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 3: twenty one second knockout. He thinks he's done, he thinks 1309 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,480 Speaker 3: he's cut like it's over. So he's he has eight 1310 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:33,280 Speaker 3: UFC wins since that night, including four in a row, 1311 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,440 Speaker 3: and just really happy for a guy who made his 1312 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,520 Speaker 3: debut on season twelve of The Ultimate Fighter at the finale, 1313 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:43,800 Speaker 3: and it's just hard to sustain and be as as 1314 01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,880 Speaker 3: active twenty four UFC appearances over ten years or so. 1315 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:48,880 Speaker 3: I just I feel pretty good for this kid man 1316 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,200 Speaker 3: because he's stuck to his guns, he's done it his way, 1317 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,560 Speaker 3: and he's coming up on thirty UFC fights here in 1318 01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,080 Speaker 3: a couple of years. Listen. 1319 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:59,040 Speaker 4: Composure and experience was the real determining factor in his 1320 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:00,640 Speaker 4: win this weekend. 1321 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,440 Speaker 3: His opponent was panicking. 1322 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:08,240 Speaker 4: Was just just seemed like he was. I don't know, 1323 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,240 Speaker 4: it seemed like it was his UFC debut, even though 1324 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 4: it wasn't. Again still early on in his career, but 1325 01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:18,440 Speaker 4: it was a panic effort more than anything else. It's 1326 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 4: one thing to be aggressive and to put pressure on 1327 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,200 Speaker 4: your opponent, but when you are kind of doing it 1328 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 4: out of desperation, I don't think that's ever a good thing. 1329 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,520 Speaker 4: Your emotions are going to get into it, you're going 1330 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,640 Speaker 4: to get more tired. And it was the more composed 1331 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,800 Speaker 4: Casarras that that got it done out there, so it 1332 01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,440 Speaker 4: was good to see. I think Cassara's was more technical, 1333 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,480 Speaker 4: was landing some great shots on the feet, was picking 1334 01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,480 Speaker 4: his shots, hitting some ice counters, and he deserved to 1335 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:41,960 Speaker 4: get that win. 1336 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:44,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right about all of that stuff. 1337 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,880 Speaker 3: Kevin Kroum, who trains at Glory MMA Fitness in Kansas City, Missouri, 1338 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 3: he says, you know, I'm skilled, but I'm scattered. And 1339 01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:55,520 Speaker 3: I still think he's just having a hard time, you know, 1340 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,400 Speaker 3: executing his all around MMA game despite a wealth of 1341 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 3: amateur experience, and you know, fought Justin gait Chee in 1342 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,960 Speaker 3: the seventh pro fight supposedly twenty to zero as an amateur, 1343 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 3: but it just it wasn't clicking for him, and Cassara's 1344 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,040 Speaker 3: didn't make things any easier. He's an awkward guy to fight, 1345 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,560 Speaker 3: all right. Last thing, Thiago Moyses over Alexander Hernandez in 1346 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,720 Speaker 3: the featured pre limit lightweight and I consider both of 1347 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,600 Speaker 3: these guys friends. Alexander Hernandez was not thrilled with the 1348 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 3: commentary and believes if you turn it off that you'll 1349 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,520 Speaker 3: hear or you won't hear. You'll see pretty clearly that 1350 01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 3: he won the fight. I thought it was a pretty 1351 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 3: clear two to one for Thiago Moyses. For me, two 1352 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 3: of the three judges had it thirty twenty seven for Moyses. 1353 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,880 Speaker 3: I thought it was the best performance in the Brazilian's career, 1354 01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,480 Speaker 3: but Hernandez clearly thought he won. How'd you see it? 1355 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 4: Does he think the commentary influenced the judges or they 1356 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:44,280 Speaker 4: can't hear us right? 1357 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,440 Speaker 3: I don't know how that well. I think maybe he 1358 01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:51,440 Speaker 3: heard on social media that people felt like he didn't 1359 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,280 Speaker 3: win the fight, and so maybe he feels like we're 1360 01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,400 Speaker 3: pushing a narrative and fueling the public perception by our 1361 01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 3: call to fight. Yeah, I should say this. I think 1362 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 3: he should. He should, you know, turn the volume off 1363 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,600 Speaker 3: and watch the fight, and I think he'll find that 1364 01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 3: he actually lost the fight. I think if you're looking 1365 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 3: with unbiased eyes, I think that he certainly lost the fight. 1366 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,000 Speaker 3: I don't think he made a lot of great choices 1367 01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:11,400 Speaker 3: out there. 1368 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,640 Speaker 4: Two things happened in this fight, or two things happened 1369 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,200 Speaker 4: since the last time both of these guys had their 1370 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,440 Speaker 4: respective fights, and it is that Mois Sas has improved 1371 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,720 Speaker 4: as a striker, Hernandez has gotten worse, and I hate 1372 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,040 Speaker 4: to say that about a fighter, but I don't know 1373 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:27,440 Speaker 4: exactly what he was trying to do. 1374 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,040 Speaker 3: He throws himself right into the line of fire. 1375 01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 4: He was squaring his body off against Moises, who was 1376 01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 4: landing a lot of shots, and Hernandez. 1377 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:38,800 Speaker 3: You know, the shots that he was landing, I don't 1378 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,520 Speaker 3: think were as effective as Moises. I don't think that 1379 01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:46,840 Speaker 3: Hernandez had a very good plan against someone like Moisas 1380 01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:51,360 Speaker 3: again talked about scattered, I thought that was very disorganized. 1381 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:55,000 Speaker 3: It was very sporadic in what he was trying to do. 1382 01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:57,760 Speaker 4: It looked like he was kind of shadow boxing from 1383 01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,919 Speaker 4: the outside, trying to gauge his distance and just wasn't 1384 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,200 Speaker 4: able to really get it done. I thought Moises was 1385 01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:04,920 Speaker 4: more versatile and more effective. 1386 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,479 Speaker 3: I agree with all of what you say, and again, 1387 01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 3: you're able to just see things with a depth that 1388 01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,120 Speaker 3: not a lot of people are able to see out there. 1389 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,360 Speaker 3: But I really do wonder if he is able to 1390 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,120 Speaker 3: sort of watch this again and be a little bit 1391 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:22,280 Speaker 3: more critical of himself and willing to be that maybe 1392 01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,360 Speaker 3: he won't think that this was such a dominant effort, 1393 01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,240 Speaker 3: because I think the scary thing for him going forward, 1394 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,200 Speaker 3: the potentials off the charts. I mean, he is a 1395 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:30,800 Speaker 3: five tool guy for me, can do a little bit 1396 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,760 Speaker 3: of everything. And if he thinks this was a step 1397 01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:35,840 Speaker 3: in the right direction, you know, I think that could 1398 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,480 Speaker 3: potentially be problematic. Absolutely, and again I'll end with this. 1399 01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 4: I think his footwork is just is really flawed out there, 1400 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,880 Speaker 4: and he's got to improve that aspect because that's why 1401 01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 4: he's taking the damage and why he is confused on 1402 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,840 Speaker 4: why he can't land the shots that he wants. 1403 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,040 Speaker 3: So if he's able to improve that, he can come back. 1404 01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,520 Speaker 4: But I think he's taking a step in the wrong direction, 1405 01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,080 Speaker 4: and Moist says is taking a step in the right direction. 1406 01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, moyss really should the headline and really excited 1407 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:03,920 Speaker 3: to see him get another big fight at fifty five. 1408 01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,080 Speaker 3: That's probably gonna get a rank guy at this point. 1409 01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,680 Speaker 3: Congrats to the veteran Alexis Davis. What else can you 1410 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:12,080 Speaker 3: say about her commitment to this sport fourteen years after 1411 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,040 Speaker 3: she made her pro debut. She's dealt with a lot 1412 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,720 Speaker 3: of adversity personally professionally. Sabina Maso is a hell of 1413 01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:19,919 Speaker 3: a fighter, but I do think the flyweight division fits 1414 01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,840 Speaker 3: her a little bit better. Davis just supremely well coached. 1415 01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,040 Speaker 3: We congratulate her and of course Ronnie to Heat Lawrence 1416 01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,240 Speaker 3: the only finish of the night over Vince Cacero. So 1417 01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:32,080 Speaker 3: congrats to Samford MMA and of course att Sunrise, Roger Crawl, 1418 01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,640 Speaker 3: the whole team. Ronnie Lawrence with a big win and 1419 01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:38,120 Speaker 3: performance bonus in his UFC debut. All right, we don't 1420 01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,640 Speaker 3: always bury the lead and bury the star of the show, 1421 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,600 Speaker 3: but that is our reality. This week, Ray Longo got 1422 01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,920 Speaker 3: a haircut. Let us get to the Ray Longo minute. 1423 01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,320 Speaker 1: It's now time for the Ray Longo Minutes. 1424 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,520 Speaker 3: And I'm gonna push a horns hooking such side. 1425 01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,080 Speaker 9: That's the Ray Longo minute. 1426 01:05:55,320 --> 01:06:00,640 Speaker 1: Story Ray Longo, the John Annik and Kenny Florian Podcast Asked. 1427 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:06,840 Speaker 3: And the Great Raymond Peter fucking long Ago joins us 1428 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,240 Speaker 3: live from Las Vegas. He's at al Jamaine Sterling's house 1429 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,120 Speaker 3: right now. It is a championship fight week for al 1430 01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,520 Speaker 3: Jamaine Sterling, his first in the UFC. It is a 1431 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:19,040 Speaker 3: title fight week for Teams Sarah Longo for the first 1432 01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,960 Speaker 3: time since December of twenty fifteen, when Chris Wadin fought 1433 01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,920 Speaker 3: Luke Rockold Raymond. Let's go, I mean what are you 1434 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,560 Speaker 3: feeling right now? Where is your heart rate? Talk to me? 1435 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,320 Speaker 2: I tell you my heart rate was good until you 1436 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,240 Speaker 2: started talking about then it kind of went up a 1437 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,360 Speaker 2: little bit. But it's yeah, it's exciting. 1438 01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:35,560 Speaker 5: Man. 1439 01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,000 Speaker 2: He looks like he's in a great spot. He's got 1440 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:42,520 Speaker 2: half the team out here, you know. So it's he 1441 01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:47,640 Speaker 2: looked great today, great practice today, great practice the other day. 1442 01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,840 Speaker 2: He's just he's looking good, so very very positive. It 1443 01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,160 Speaker 2: looks like his head's in the right spot. But like again, 1444 01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 2: more importantly, this guy is domesticated. I am in shock 1445 01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,920 Speaker 2: what I'm seeing over here. Yeah, the guy was hanging 1446 01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:02,320 Speaker 2: curtains yesterday. 1447 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,440 Speaker 3: Wow. And that clickety clack you here is actually the 1448 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,440 Speaker 3: number one UFC bandaway contenter doing dishes right behind. 1449 01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,200 Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, he's running this place with 1450 01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:12,960 Speaker 2: an iron. 1451 01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:17,680 Speaker 3: Head, so uh, Planet Hollywood. Hat is covering up the 1452 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:22,040 Speaker 3: fact that, after over a year without so much as 1453 01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,120 Speaker 3: washing nor cutting your hair, you decided to uh to 1454 01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,000 Speaker 3: go with the cabbage. Can you take your hat off 1455 01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:34,000 Speaker 3: for a second look at as why would you be 1456 01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:35,120 Speaker 3: covering that up? Right? 1457 01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:39,240 Speaker 2: What it's getting bad? Can flow? It's getting bad in 1458 01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:43,560 Speaker 2: the trenches up the girls away. That's why he wears 1459 01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:43,919 Speaker 2: the hat. 1460 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:46,200 Speaker 3: Can you put the hat back on? Now? 1461 01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:48,960 Speaker 2: I should put the hat back on. 1462 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,680 Speaker 3: So I know Ken Flow has some things he wants 1463 01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,080 Speaker 3: to ask you about al Jamaine Sterling. But before we 1464 01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:58,320 Speaker 3: get there, we'll see the extent to which it's hard 1465 01:07:58,360 --> 01:07:59,960 Speaker 3: hitting from Ken Flow today. He's not trying to hit 1466 01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,600 Speaker 3: you too hard. But I want to get your thoughts 1467 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,840 Speaker 3: on the main event that we just saw between setle 1468 01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,920 Speaker 3: God and Jarzenho rosen Strike, because if the goal is 1469 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,160 Speaker 3: to go in there and dominate and to progress your 1470 01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,800 Speaker 3: career forward, you know, in a lot of respects, mission 1471 01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:19,560 Speaker 3: accomplished for seedle Gon, but he was criticized despite a 1472 01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,880 Speaker 3: dominant win. What were your thoughts on that heavyweight main 1473 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:22,679 Speaker 3: event a week ago? 1474 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, look, every so often that shit happens, right, 1475 01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,840 Speaker 2: I mean we saw it with the Beast and Agano, 1476 01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:32,120 Speaker 2: and I think this was better because cyril Gon was 1477 01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,439 Speaker 2: offsetting him, you know, he was like kicking him. He 1478 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:38,640 Speaker 2: was he had a great jeb you know, so I 1479 01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:40,720 Speaker 2: guess he felt he was just doing enough to win. 1480 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,960 Speaker 2: That's what he decided to do, and he kind of 1481 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:47,000 Speaker 2: made it look easy against the heavy handed you know, 1482 01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:47,960 Speaker 2: Rosen Strike. 1483 01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:49,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know so. 1484 01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,439 Speaker 2: But you know, like we were just talking about this too, 1485 01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,760 Speaker 2: it's easy to say go forward, go forward, but when 1486 01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:59,000 Speaker 2: something's always interrupted that movement, it just five minutes seems 1487 01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,320 Speaker 2: to go by quick, and then you're in the right 1488 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,280 Speaker 2: warre and you have no rhythm. This guy stills pot 1489 01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:07,080 Speaker 2: shot you from the outside. Yeah, just had to be 1490 01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:12,400 Speaker 2: a frustrating fight, you know, for for Rosen strike. Am 1491 01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:13,439 Speaker 2: I pronouncing his name right? 1492 01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,200 Speaker 3: Because yeah, no, you're pronouncing his name right. I mean, 1493 01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,240 Speaker 3: I don't know what the goddamn racket is behind you, 1494 01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,439 Speaker 3: but I'm gonna let it slie because it's a championship fight. 1495 01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:22,639 Speaker 3: We but you're right, it didn't feel like an inherently 1496 01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:26,120 Speaker 3: slow fight, even though there was a lot of inactivity. 1497 01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:30,160 Speaker 3: I didn't feel like a slow fight calling it, even 1498 01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,479 Speaker 3: though I've certainly called better main events. I know the 1499 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:34,240 Speaker 3: fight you really want to talk about, though, is Pedro 1500 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,160 Speaker 3: Muno's and Jimmy Rivera, a couple of guys that Al 1501 01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:38,960 Speaker 3: Joe got the better of, by the way your thoughts 1502 01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,080 Speaker 3: on the fight of the night, I. 1503 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,760 Speaker 2: Mean, look at that fight. Those guys went after it, right, 1504 01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:44,880 Speaker 2: That's what they wanted to see out of the heavyweights, 1505 01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,599 Speaker 2: and I think, like again, that's what I love about 1506 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:49,720 Speaker 2: this fight. For around Joe, I think he's just right 1507 01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,720 Speaker 2: at the right place at the right time. He beat 1508 01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,320 Speaker 2: some really good guys and you could see even with 1509 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:59,520 Speaker 2: uh you know, Pedro Munos and Rivera, both very talented strikers, 1510 01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,960 Speaker 2: can take punch, can give a punch, they couldn't get 1511 01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:04,280 Speaker 2: near al Joe. And that's the difference in this fight. 1512 01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 2: He's not going to stand in front of you and 1513 01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,519 Speaker 2: just bangley. He's very intelligent. Plus he's got the wrestling. 1514 01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:11,760 Speaker 2: You're getting a scramble, he latches onto your back, of 1515 01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,840 Speaker 2: your neck, you screwed. So he's got, you know, more 1516 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:19,240 Speaker 2: ways to win, I believe than Jan, and I think 1517 01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,600 Speaker 2: that fight, watching those two guys go out is a 1518 01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,600 Speaker 2: great example of what Aljo brings to the table. You know, 1519 01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,080 Speaker 2: you can't hurt me, he can't hit and his movement 1520 01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,680 Speaker 2: is phenomenal. And if he keeps that up and does 1521 01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,800 Speaker 2: more than Yan he wins. He'll run away with that fight. 1522 01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,000 Speaker 3: Kenny. I know we had Joe Osborne on the show 1523 01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,080 Speaker 3: and he talked a little bit about Pyotr Jan and 1524 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:41,760 Speaker 3: some of the numbers defensively, but I think most people 1525 01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:45,040 Speaker 3: would agree that not only is this an entirely different 1526 01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:49,720 Speaker 3: challenge than Jon has experienced previously, but aren't a lot 1527 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,000 Speaker 3: of points of comparison when you look at his resume 1528 01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,879 Speaker 3: in terms of the combination of the frame, the footwork, 1529 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,280 Speaker 3: the grappling, the chokes, just not much out there in 1530 01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:03,280 Speaker 3: terms of experience that is so to this type of opposition. Yeah, Ray, 1531 01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:07,080 Speaker 3: would you say that it's a more difficult fight to 1532 01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:11,200 Speaker 3: prepare for for Yan than it is for al Jo? 1533 01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,360 Speaker 4: Like, you know what I mean, There's a lot of 1534 01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:17,160 Speaker 4: guys similar to to Peter Yan, but not a whole 1535 01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:18,800 Speaker 4: lot of guys that are similar to al Jo. 1536 01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,519 Speaker 2: And I think that's the story. That's the that's the 1537 01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,679 Speaker 2: storyline of this fight. Look, you just saw like again Pedro, 1538 01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:29,200 Speaker 2: I mean, uh Rivera and Jan Rivero was doing great 1539 01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,040 Speaker 2: in that fight. He got at the end of the rounds, 1540 01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,960 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And again it's just like again, 1541 01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,240 Speaker 2: That's why I like he Aljo beat two really good strikers, 1542 01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,599 Speaker 2: and you could compare those guys kind of to Yan. Right, 1543 01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:45,920 Speaker 2: He's a striker, he comes forward and uh, I don't 1544 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:49,479 Speaker 2: think Yan's faced anybody. You know, na what this guy 1545 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,960 Speaker 2: brings I don't say, I really don't mean anybody. 1546 01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:52,160 Speaker 8: Guy. 1547 01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,760 Speaker 2: Look, he's kick oriented, right. A lot of times he 1548 01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:56,680 Speaker 2: uses his kicks to set up his punches. He could 1549 01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,400 Speaker 2: throw fifty kicks around. That's not easy to deal with 1550 01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:03,000 Speaker 2: no matter what. His movement is great. And again, you 1551 01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:05,479 Speaker 2: know if he latches onto you, and you know how 1552 01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,479 Speaker 2: that goes, Kenny, and you know, you could be the 1553 01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,639 Speaker 2: toughest guy around. But when you don't get the blood 1554 01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:11,800 Speaker 2: in the air of your brain, you're going out. So 1555 01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,400 Speaker 2: he's got that in his back pocket. I think that 1556 01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,320 Speaker 2: that's gonna make Yon think a little bit, and if 1557 01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,439 Speaker 2: he gets over careless, he'll get put down, and I 1558 01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:21,600 Speaker 2: think that'll be a long night for him. So I 1559 01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,040 Speaker 2: love the matchup because I think Aljiel, Like that's what 1560 01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:26,880 Speaker 2: I was saying, his growth up until this point kind 1561 01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,760 Speaker 2: of leads him perfectly to this fight. 1562 01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:32,080 Speaker 3: What do you think your emotions are going to be 1563 01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:33,439 Speaker 3: like if Aljae breaks through? 1564 01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:39,200 Speaker 2: Look, obviously I'm gonna be super happy. I'm happy just 1565 01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,000 Speaker 2: that he's fighting for a title though. Man, I love 1566 01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,519 Speaker 2: the way this kid's grown and even the fact looking 1567 01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:45,120 Speaker 2: at it, he's got a beautiful house, he's got a 1568 01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:49,519 Speaker 2: house on Long Island. There's no downside to this fight 1569 01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,640 Speaker 2: when he moves, there really isn't. He's he's progressing as 1570 01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:56,640 Speaker 2: a person better than I've seen probably anybody progress. I just, 1571 01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:59,719 Speaker 2: you know, love watching him even walk around the house. 1572 01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,680 Speaker 2: And you know he's he's a patriarch, you know to 1573 01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:07,240 Speaker 2: these guys too, so super excited. But I'm just super excited. 1574 01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:10,759 Speaker 2: He's finally getting the opportunity that he worked for and deserved. 1575 01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,640 Speaker 2: And that's really all you could ask for, you know. 1576 01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:16,000 Speaker 2: And if he comes in, you know, like we know 1577 01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:18,280 Speaker 2: he can. On that night, he walks away with the belt. 1578 01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,800 Speaker 3: So there are fifteen if you go ahead, can flaw said? 1579 01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:23,600 Speaker 3: They're fifteen of them under the roof right now at 1580 01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:24,240 Speaker 3: at the. 1581 01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:27,479 Speaker 2: Stolen Mansion is a I thought, you know, I thought 1582 01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,120 Speaker 2: it was weird when I did the show what Matt 1583 01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,559 Speaker 2: and I was fifty and I was rooming with Drago. 1584 01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,640 Speaker 2: This is another level. Now I'm stuck on what was 1585 01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,680 Speaker 2: the age went down another ten years? This is not 1586 01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:43,240 Speaker 2: this is not pretty. I feel they got to put 1587 01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,200 Speaker 2: up with me, that's funny. 1588 01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,639 Speaker 4: I was just about to ask Ray, you know you've 1589 01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:51,519 Speaker 4: you've been lucky in that You've had some awesome guys 1590 01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,439 Speaker 4: come through your gym, and you've been in, you know, 1591 01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,559 Speaker 4: some historic fights over the course of your career. It's 1592 01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:58,479 Speaker 4: a testament to you as a coach and a testament 1593 01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:02,480 Speaker 4: to the guys in your air. How is this championship 1594 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,320 Speaker 4: fight different than the other ones that you've experienced. 1595 01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,679 Speaker 2: No, I mean, look, they're all they're all the same. 1596 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:10,599 Speaker 2: My thing is, I just love to be a part 1597 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:14,280 Speaker 2: of watching these guys, you know, complete their dreams and 1598 01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:16,719 Speaker 2: you know, if I'm any part of that, and I'm 1599 01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:21,400 Speaker 2: really happy. So you know, like again, it's a it's 1600 01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,320 Speaker 2: not really different. You know, like everybody says which fight was, 1601 01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,080 Speaker 2: would you feel better or not? It's it's it's you know, 1602 01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,840 Speaker 2: it's like you have kids, right, you can't be happy 1603 01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:31,760 Speaker 2: for one kid not happy for another kid. 1604 01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:33,080 Speaker 3: Oh I can. 1605 01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:34,360 Speaker 6: Oh no you can't. 1606 01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,400 Speaker 2: I couldn't as a father. Those girls all over me. 1607 01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:42,080 Speaker 2: So but you know, so it's a it's it's great, man. 1608 01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:45,760 Speaker 2: It's uh, it's just a great feeling being here again, 1609 01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:47,880 Speaker 2: and like again, knowing that you know, we're all part 1610 01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,800 Speaker 2: of a small gym, and like again, the camaraderie with 1611 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,120 Speaker 2: these guys is crazy. He's got ten guys from the 1612 01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,320 Speaker 2: gym living in his house, so everybody made the sacrifice 1613 01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:59,280 Speaker 2: to come out to really watch aljo accomplish, you know, 1614 01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:01,800 Speaker 2: his dream, and then you know, and al Joe does 1615 01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,599 Speaker 2: a great job when he's back home teaching in corner 1616 01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,280 Speaker 2: of people, so he always gives back, and I think 1617 01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:11,200 Speaker 2: these guys really appreciate, and I think Aljoel appreciates, and 1618 01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,920 Speaker 2: I think that's part of his motivation, you know, is 1619 01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,479 Speaker 2: really performing for these guys that have helped him out. 1620 01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:19,360 Speaker 3: Now, he is a loyalist, there's no doubt about it. 1621 01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,400 Speaker 3: And there are a lot of guys, lesser known guys 1622 01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:23,519 Speaker 3: that have been right hand men for him, with him 1623 01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:25,160 Speaker 3: every step of the way. And those guys are going 1624 01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,519 Speaker 3: to get some shine this weekend. But when you say 1625 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:31,360 Speaker 3: it's not different, right, the COVID nineteen climate is such 1626 01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,960 Speaker 3: that this is an entirely different. I mean, you still 1627 01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:36,600 Speaker 3: have to pass three COVID tests to be in the 1628 01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,280 Speaker 3: goddamn corner. Okay, so let's start there, right, I mean, well, 1629 01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:39,760 Speaker 3: here's a. 1630 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,000 Speaker 2: Lot, but I had COVID, so I don't even think 1631 01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:43,760 Speaker 2: I have to take the test. They took the test 1632 01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:46,600 Speaker 2: at home, and they said I'm sure it's going to 1633 01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,080 Speaker 2: come back positive because I had it a month ago. 1634 01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:53,280 Speaker 2: What you actually, I don't know, maybe, but you're right. 1635 01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:55,200 Speaker 2: The COVID thing, you know what it is, John, At 1636 01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:59,880 Speaker 2: this point, the COVID thing is almost normal, but it's deaf, 1637 01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,320 Speaker 2: had obstructions to it. Uh, you know, you got to 1638 01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,120 Speaker 2: take the training when you can. We had just that. 1639 01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,479 Speaker 2: This whole thing is crazy. It's crazy. I don't even 1640 01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:11,200 Speaker 2: know where to go with it. 1641 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,120 Speaker 3: Well, but I was. I was gonna say though, in 1642 01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,639 Speaker 3: addition to the COVID tests, right here you have Aljamain 1643 01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,960 Speaker 3: Sterling making his first championship walk in the UFC, and 1644 01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:22,600 Speaker 3: look how well he handled that apex environment against Corey Sandhagen. 1645 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,040 Speaker 3: But again, like I think, to Kenny's career, like imagine 1646 01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,560 Speaker 3: if his first title fight, or let's not say to 1647 01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,519 Speaker 3: Sean Shirk fight, but imagine if he's fighting BJ Penn 1648 01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:33,400 Speaker 3: in the middle of a global pandemic right and there 1649 01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:36,000 Speaker 3: are no fans. I actually think it stands to reason 1650 01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:38,720 Speaker 3: that that can very much help an athlete who's in 1651 01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:40,799 Speaker 3: that championship setting for the first time. I hope Alja's 1652 01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:42,320 Speaker 3: not here in my every word right now, but I'm. 1653 01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:44,760 Speaker 2: Telling you I'm looking around, but he's not. 1654 01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,320 Speaker 3: I really do believe that when you're fighting for a 1655 01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:50,439 Speaker 3: UFC title for the first time, even if you're calm, 1656 01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:53,000 Speaker 3: cool and collected and you have great mental resolve, like 1657 01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,360 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, the feature pops and you're walking 1658 01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,920 Speaker 3: out for your first UFC title fight, and it's just different. Instead, 1659 01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:00,599 Speaker 3: it feels like we're of combat. 1660 01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you want to make it feel like the 1661 01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,080 Speaker 2: ring of combat exactly. You want to do that. And 1662 01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:10,639 Speaker 2: I honestly think he looked at the Santagan fight as 1663 01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,160 Speaker 2: the real winner of the title, you know, So I 1664 01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:17,080 Speaker 2: think mentally he's kind of already put himself there because look, 1665 01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,160 Speaker 2: there's a lot of people think that was the title fight. 1666 01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:22,080 Speaker 2: You know, Sandagan, they both earned their right up there. 1667 01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:24,920 Speaker 2: Jose Aldo, as much as everybody loves them, didn't earn 1668 01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,400 Speaker 2: that right for that title coming off a loss. So, 1669 01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:30,720 Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at it, like even logically 1670 01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,880 Speaker 2: it was young, it was Santagan against Aljo for the 1671 01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:34,800 Speaker 2: bantamweight title. 1672 01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, two things before we let you go. 1673 01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,280 Speaker 3: Did you see the lightweight fight last weekend between Alexander 1674 01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:45,320 Speaker 3: Hernandez and Thiago Moises. Yes, So Factory X has a 1675 01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,920 Speaker 3: ton of up and coming contenders and a bunch of 1676 01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,400 Speaker 3: different weight classes. I think highly of Mark Montoya, but 1677 01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:54,439 Speaker 3: Mark and Alexander Hernandez seemed very surprised that they didn't 1678 01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,760 Speaker 3: win this fight. And my question for you, I guess 1679 01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:01,240 Speaker 3: has to do with that part of it that it 1680 01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:04,320 Speaker 3: seemed like most people believe Thiago Moyses won that fight. 1681 01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:08,160 Speaker 3: Alex suggested it maybe you mute the commentary that people 1682 01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,080 Speaker 3: would think it went differently, but I thought it was 1683 01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,240 Speaker 3: pretty clear to one for Moyses. Two of the three 1684 01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:15,040 Speaker 3: judges gave it to him three to nil, and it 1685 01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,040 Speaker 3: seemed like alexaid his head coach, felt like they were 1686 01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:18,160 Speaker 3: watching a totally different play. 1687 01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:23,000 Speaker 2: I look, I had Moyses winning that fight kind of easy. 1688 01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:26,920 Speaker 2: I was when we were watching the fight with all 1689 01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:29,120 Speaker 2: of us on the couch, were in shocked that even 1690 01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:31,080 Speaker 2: Henand just put his hands. I might have to really 1691 01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:33,599 Speaker 2: talk to Mark. I don't know if he's more supporting 1692 01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,080 Speaker 2: his guy, but I not only did, I thought it 1693 01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:38,280 Speaker 2: was a bad sign. You couldn't have possibly thought it 1694 01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:42,760 Speaker 2: you're winning that fight. It just didn't. Uh. The other 1695 01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:47,200 Speaker 2: guy looked way way sharper, you know, way Sharper well. 1696 01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:50,439 Speaker 3: Mark went to Bruce Buffer and almost leaned over to 1697 01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,280 Speaker 3: try to look at the scores as if to say, 1698 01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:53,960 Speaker 3: are you sure you read that for the right guy? 1699 01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,479 Speaker 3: And perhaps Mark's reaction was because there were two thirty 1700 01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:01,760 Speaker 3: to twenty sevens. But if you were to give one 1701 01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:03,400 Speaker 3: of the two fighters all three rounds, I think it 1702 01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,360 Speaker 3: would have had to have been Thiago Moyses. But I 1703 01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:06,320 Speaker 3: think I'm. 1704 01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,320 Speaker 2: Surprised you were even saying. I really thought whoever I 1705 01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:12,280 Speaker 2: was watching the fight with everybody knew that moys has 1706 01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:16,200 Speaker 2: won that fight. So sometimes I guess when you're emotionally involved, 1707 01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:18,600 Speaker 2: sometimes you see it different. Because look, it wasn't the 1708 01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:22,120 Speaker 2: most exciting fight, but I like one guy was controlling 1709 01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:24,200 Speaker 2: the octagon for sure, and he was. I think they 1710 01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,880 Speaker 2: put up the punch that he was ahead in every round, 1711 01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:29,599 Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, or maybe the other guy had 1712 01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:33,000 Speaker 2: more kicks, was ad it. Maybe that's what the problem was, right, 1713 01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:36,880 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I'm not really sure, but I thought one 1714 01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,679 Speaker 2: guy looked like he was definitely in control of that fight. Yeah. 1715 01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:41,840 Speaker 3: Well, anyway, we got three title fights this weekend, so 1716 01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,240 Speaker 3: enough about that noise. My final question to you is 1717 01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:49,920 Speaker 3: is there a lot of sonia Janvohovic main event this 1718 01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:55,080 Speaker 3: weekend wicked, compelling light heavyweight championship fight champion versus champion? 1719 01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:57,800 Speaker 3: Who do you have? How close the fight is it 1720 01:19:57,880 --> 01:19:58,160 Speaker 3: going to be? 1721 01:19:58,840 --> 01:19:59,280 Speaker 6: Talk to me? 1722 01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:06,280 Speaker 2: Uh, I like if Jan can impose his physicality, I 1723 01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:08,160 Speaker 2: mean I don't know. I mean, obviously the other guy's 1724 01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:11,760 Speaker 2: the shop. He's a sharp shooter, he's fantastic, and uh, 1725 01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:15,080 Speaker 2: you know it's gonna be you know, does he have 1726 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,320 Speaker 2: light heavyweight power when he moves up too? Because he's 1727 01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,720 Speaker 2: more of a technician, but he does come out of 1728 01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:24,920 Speaker 2: nowhere with stuff, which obviously adds to the power. But uh, 1729 01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:27,160 Speaker 2: and is he gonna be able to hold up? 1730 01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:27,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1731 01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:29,880 Speaker 2: This guy is big and strong, that's gonna that's a 1732 01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,880 Speaker 2: I'm very excited for that fight. But I think uh 1733 01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:40,559 Speaker 2: Abissanya technically, Uh yeah, he's definitely the better technical striker. 1734 01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:43,320 Speaker 2: The other guy looks like he's got he does look 1735 01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,599 Speaker 2: like he's got some Polish power. Man, He's he's put 1736 01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,120 Speaker 2: some Look what he did to reyis man, nobody had 1737 01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:51,400 Speaker 2: done that to him before. So right, and what are 1738 01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:52,280 Speaker 2: the odds on that fight? 1739 01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:55,800 Speaker 3: It's like minus two fifty for asnya Yan is around 1740 01:20:55,840 --> 01:21:00,639 Speaker 3: plus two hundred. Will you be placing any eight wagers 1741 01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:02,160 Speaker 3: or polays this weekend? 1742 01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:04,960 Speaker 2: I'm just getting on my guy. 1743 01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:08,400 Speaker 3: That's it, just right in your hot tak. 1744 01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:10,400 Speaker 2: I'm taking the plus one thirty five. 1745 01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,719 Speaker 3: You can't mind plus one thirty five on al Zeman 1746 01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:16,040 Speaker 3: Serling anywhere in Las Vegas right now? Where's that price? 1747 01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:18,320 Speaker 2: I saw it at the other day because they maybe. 1748 01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,200 Speaker 3: You can get that price? Let me know, yeah, can you? 1749 01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,960 Speaker 2: Uh wow? I swear to god, I saw it at 1750 01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:24,479 Speaker 2: the other day betters dot com. 1751 01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:29,200 Speaker 3: All right, well, we we hear the Ventory podcast would 1752 01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:31,479 Speaker 3: always encourage you to go shop a price, but that 1753 01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,559 Speaker 3: would be a stale line. I don't know that that's 1754 01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,599 Speaker 3: available anymore. Maybe it is, but he's more plus one 1755 01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:41,599 Speaker 3: oh five plus one ten, So either way, it's plus money. 1756 01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,240 Speaker 3: And you're in a city in which sports betting is 1757 01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:47,000 Speaker 3: not only legal but encouraged, So maybe you should make 1758 01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:48,360 Speaker 3: your way to one of the kiosks, and. 1759 01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:50,360 Speaker 2: You know, I think they'll be doing that. 1760 01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:54,519 Speaker 3: All right. Well, congratulations on the haircut and everything else 1761 01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:57,840 Speaker 3: you got going on. It really is a testament to you, though, 1762 01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,479 Speaker 3: to Kenny's point that you have in doored, sustained and 1763 01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,840 Speaker 3: cornered championship level athletes in the greatest show in the 1764 01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,120 Speaker 3: world in three separate decades. 1765 01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:09,120 Speaker 2: So I gotta tell it to you. Yeah, thank you 1766 01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:11,719 Speaker 2: very much because I do. I look, I'm grateful for everything. 1767 01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,160 Speaker 2: I love these guys. I love watching them, you know, 1768 01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:17,320 Speaker 2: become successful in all aspects of life. But uh, it 1769 01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,439 Speaker 2: has been a crazy ride, man, I gotta say it really. Uh, 1770 01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:23,840 Speaker 2: I don't even know how I'm doing it myself. Yeah, 1771 01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:27,720 Speaker 2: right right, it's been It's been a long ride. But 1772 01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:33,720 Speaker 2: this will be a really great send off. Maybe well 1773 01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:36,240 Speaker 2: I think I write off and this guy wins the title, 1774 01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:38,160 Speaker 2: you might never see me again. I just might just 1775 01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,080 Speaker 2: get on a horse and just keep on ride. 1776 01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:43,599 Speaker 3: Well, got to be back for title defense number one. 1777 01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:45,639 Speaker 3: But would that be a great way to go out 1778 01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,200 Speaker 3: or what for Raymond Peter Longo. Well, I'm gonna try 1779 01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:50,240 Speaker 3: to keep keep the emotions in check if you guys 1780 01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:52,719 Speaker 3: break through this weekend. But you know, I'll be inside 1781 01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:53,479 Speaker 3: very happy for you. 1782 01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:54,840 Speaker 5: Man. 1783 01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:57,720 Speaker 2: You were always you were always out Joe's biggest fan 1784 01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:59,000 Speaker 2: from six years ago. 1785 01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:01,840 Speaker 3: That's when he was fighting the Johnny ed Wards of 1786 01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:02,160 Speaker 3: the world. 1787 01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:05,960 Speaker 2: Right, exactly what happened to those cool guys al Jael. 1788 01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:09,240 Speaker 2: They were in the gulag right now, you got sent 1789 01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:09,960 Speaker 2: to the gulag. 1790 01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:11,160 Speaker 5: I don't know about him. 1791 01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:14,719 Speaker 2: That's right, Kenny. I want to say that you would 1792 01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:17,439 Speaker 2: You know what, Your hair actually got better since the 1793 01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:20,439 Speaker 2: beginning of the podcast. This is crazy, Joe. What did 1794 01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:23,679 Speaker 2: he do? Did you say something on it to fluff 1795 01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:24,960 Speaker 2: it up? In between. 1796 01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,120 Speaker 3: His his microphone is muted, but uh, I think he's 1797 01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:34,360 Speaker 3: talking about product very good. Well, you're muted, we can't 1798 01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:38,280 Speaker 3: hear you. I was gonna say, you guys, good luck 1799 01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:40,160 Speaker 3: to you guys. I can't wait to watch the fight. 1800 01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:42,960 Speaker 3: It's gonna be really interesting and uh best of luck. 1801 01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:44,000 Speaker 3: I know you guys a gonna do great. 1802 01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:47,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks holistically man, it's an exciting fight at 1803 01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:49,760 Speaker 2: the end of the day. Oh yeah, I think. Uh, 1804 01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:52,080 Speaker 2: I expected I'll do the rise to the occasion the 1805 01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,439 Speaker 2: same way he did with Santas and that's what I expect. 1806 01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:56,920 Speaker 2: And he's healthy. He looks great, and he has a 1807 01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,880 Speaker 2: good week this week. It's just training. He's ready to go. 1808 01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:04,160 Speaker 3: Well, we will be back with you next Monday. Will 1809 01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:08,960 Speaker 3: we be celebrating another undisputed UFC Championship for Teams Sarah 1810 01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:13,599 Speaker 3: Longo or will it be Russia's pure yan spoiling the part? 1811 01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,599 Speaker 3: And I'm just kidding. I just trying to keep it up, 1812 01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:18,320 Speaker 3: just to keep it objective. 1813 01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:25,439 Speaker 2: Over here, you just lost yourself whatever he saved in 1814 01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:26,040 Speaker 2: the UFC. 1815 01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:30,599 Speaker 3: Wow, I don't have a booze sound effect or that would. 1816 01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:34,519 Speaker 2: I thought, are we hooking up when you're out here? Right? 1817 01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:35,519 Speaker 2: What do we h? 1818 01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:37,720 Speaker 3: It'll be a little bit of a tricky navigation because 1819 01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,559 Speaker 3: we're at different hotels and uh and you're I guess 1820 01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,080 Speaker 3: you don't have to get tested, so uh, we'll see 1821 01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,200 Speaker 3: what we what we can do, but we will, uh 1822 01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,000 Speaker 3: we will at least have a conversation in the parking lot. 1823 01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:50,559 Speaker 3: And please send al Jamaine the best from of course 1824 01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:55,200 Speaker 3: the legend can flow and myself and uh stay healthy 1825 01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:58,080 Speaker 3: and uh try to try to get this done, Raymond. 1826 01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,439 Speaker 2: Try to get this done. You'll get a boys. How 1827 01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:02,599 Speaker 2: many more sleeps? How many more sleeps we got? 1828 01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:03,840 Speaker 3: We got like five sleeps? 1829 01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:04,839 Speaker 2: Bro, five sleeps? 1830 01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:09,280 Speaker 3: Say I got that wrong. It's actually six fucking sleeps. 1831 01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:14,559 Speaker 3: Sleep Monday Tuesday, Wednesday, No Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. 1832 01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:16,000 Speaker 3: It's it's five Sleeps. 1833 01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:18,080 Speaker 2: By Live Sleeps the Gold. 1834 01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:26,559 Speaker 3: That's it. That's good, right, tell uh can you tell? 1835 01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:28,719 Speaker 3: I hit a red eye and I'm hurting for certain? 1836 01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,519 Speaker 3: All right, Hey, we're back next Monday. Ray will be 1837 01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,559 Speaker 3: with us win and lose because he's just that type 1838 01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:36,479 Speaker 3: of guy. Thanks everybody for listening. Don't forget merchandise including 1839 01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,160 Speaker 3: Ray long a minute merchandise available right now Anna florianpodcast 1840 01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:42,360 Speaker 3: dot com. Thanks thanks to our executive producer Cody Merrow, 1841 01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:44,880 Speaker 3: uh Ian Parker, Joe Osborne, everybody else. We will talk 1842 01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:47,200 Speaker 3: to you in less than seven days until then for 1843 01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:49,200 Speaker 3: Ken Flowing Ray, John Anderson, So long for now you 1844 01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:49,920 Speaker 3: fucking later. 1845 01:25:50,000 --> 01:26:00,240 Speaker 9: Tell your friends, let's go out, Joe, I'm Royaloks. 1846 01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,560 Speaker 10: Next time, on Too Many Lawyers, we take on a 1847 01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,200 Speaker 10: couple of villains to sort out whether bad stuff is 1848 01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:08,719 Speaker 10: also illegal stuff. George Santos won a seat in Congress 1849 01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,400 Speaker 10: by lying to voters, but is that a crime? And 1850 01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,839 Speaker 10: Kanye West made it clear he hates Jews in England. 1851 01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,120 Speaker 10: He'd go to jail for that here in America? Did 1852 01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:19,960 Speaker 10: he commit a hate crime? Listen to Too Many Lawyers 1853 01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:23,160 Speaker 10: on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get 1854 01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:24,080 Speaker 10: your podcasts,