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Speaker 1: Whole question, Play the Day, stat of the Day, all

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Speaker 1: of that forthcoming. Tim Tebow. His success at the University

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Speaker 1: the former Heisman Trophy winner because it did provide him

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Speaker 1: with multiple opportunities, multiple opportunities to try to blake quarterback

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Speaker 1: and that was a cash grab for the Mets they

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Speaker 1: were using Tebow. Tebow didn't mind having the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: maybe show that he could play baseball. And now here

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Speaker 1: a one year deal with the Jags to play tight end.

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Speaker 1: Problem is he's thirty three and he hasn't played tight

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Speaker 1: end before. Other than that, productive players like Logan Thomas

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Speaker 1: since the twenty fifteen preseason. Presumably they are younger players

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Speaker 1: with more speed who actually played tight end. But you

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Speaker 1: have to think that the Jags head coach Urban Meyer

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Speaker 1: is bringing in Tim Tebow for his leadership, not necessarily

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that he makes the team. I think

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Speaker 1: These guys are neighbors in Jacksonville. They live a couple

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Speaker 1: Meyer wants to bank on Tim Tebow being his starting

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Speaker 1: tight end. I think we've made that big leap from Oh,

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Speaker 1: see if he makes the roster here, this is a

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Speaker 1: I don't know, what he capable of running. I don't

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Speaker 1: But I'm curious how it started tebow call. Did he

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Speaker 1: can I borrow some sugar and play tight end for you?

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Speaker 1: What some sugar in tight end for you? Serviceable tight end? Uh? Yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence just to give him some guidance. He has

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Speaker 1: played at Utah. He quarterbacked at Utah and he just

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Speaker 1: said he didn't want to play anymore. But maybe Tim

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Speaker 1: stick on the roster. Yeah, that's really what Tebow would

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Speaker 1: to play in the major leagues. It didn't work out.

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Speaker 1: Now he's trying to play tight end at age thirty three,

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Speaker 1: which is what a lot of us suggested to Tim,

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Speaker 1: and I understand that a lot of this is the ego.

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Speaker 1: a playoff game in Denver. I'm a quarterback, and then

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Speaker 1: Antoine Randall l if he said, hey, I want to

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Speaker 1: He had a great career. Eric Crouch famously didn't want

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Speaker 1: prime with M drive. Yes, Paul, isn't it fascinating how

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Speaker 1: Urban shakes his head. Trevor Lawrence throw it to Tim Tebow.

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Speaker 1: Tim Tebow making the fifty three man roster here? Not

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Speaker 1: the practice squad. No, he is opening day roster, suited up,

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Speaker 1: Tim Tebow is on the field in a uniform Week

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Speaker 1: one crickets rackets, Paulie, how many tight ends can you

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Speaker 1: international desire. Yeah, but what are you seeing when you

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Speaker 1: go see the Jags? Like Tim London don't know they die.

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Speaker 1: I recognize that guy, Okay, I mean they Yeah, those

423
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Speaker 1: are soccer fans. Like just a recognizable face to market

424
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Speaker 1: might be something. No. I think fans show up. They

425
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Speaker 1: show up no matter what, like they love their football.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think signing Tim Tebow is gonna, you know,

427
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden generate larger audiences here. Yes, boy.

428
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Speaker 1: Albert Brier Sports illustrated a story about just about a

429
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Speaker 1: month or so ago with an NFL executive who said

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Speaker 1: they're leaning away towards from a team in London, and

431
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: they're more into the couple games here, a couple of

432
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Speaker 1: games there, stay with the game schedule, not really relocating

433
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Speaker 1: a team. Tom Silverstein covers the Packers, and he's been

434
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 1: a busy man here, but he's taking time out for us.

435
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: He covers the Packers for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. Let

436
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Speaker 1: me start with the Tebows story. Let me give you

437
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Speaker 1: something different here, Tom, what do you think about Tim

438
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Speaker 1: Tebow's chances of making the Jags? Uh, let's see, I

439
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: would say they're probably akin to Rogers playing for the Bears. Maybe. Oh, okay,

440
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: that that would probably be my equation there, right, quiet

441
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: week after a wild week. So where do you Is

442
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: it a good thing? If you're a Packers fan that

443
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: it's been quiet, it's probably a good thing. Yes, you know,

444
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 1: so many things were fired right on draft Day, and

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Speaker 1: then of course you had all the reverberations after that

446
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Speaker 1: and little nuggets coming out, and now I think it's

447
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: just down to time. I think time is the one

448
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: element that could make this thing go away. It's possible.

449
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Speaker 1: I still don't believe that it's gonna end well. But

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00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: you know, with time, you start to people start to

451
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: think differently and view things differently, and suddenly you get

452
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Speaker 1: closer to actual season starting and training camp and then

453
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Speaker 1: maybe things flip a little bit. So that's really what

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Speaker 1: it's going to come down to in my opinion. Okay,

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Speaker 1: why don't you think it'll work out for Rogers and

456
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: the Packers. Well, one, I just think that with Aaron Rodgers,

457
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Speaker 1: when there's an issue and he holds a grudge, it's

458
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Speaker 1: it's a grudge forever. It's not something that he gets

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Speaker 1: over very easily. This could be a little bit different

460
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Speaker 1: in that maybe he just wanted to make his point

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Speaker 1: and that there's some things that they could do. I'm

462
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Speaker 1: starting to starting to see signs that maybe he does

463
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: want to come back. I mean, you're seeing his surrogates

464
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 1: start to say, well, you know, it's not as bad

465
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: as you think it is. And you know, everything you

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Speaker 1: hear from either sources or people who've played with him

467
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: or anything like that, it's, in my opinion, it's coming

468
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: from him. So maybe there is a chance for reconciliation. Yeah,

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00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to sort through a fact in fiction here, Tom,

470
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Speaker 1: and I know that you have to do this too,

471
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: because there's so much that's been reported. I don't like

472
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: nobody says yeah, that's absolutely true. No, that's absolutely false,

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Speaker 1: because Aaron hasn't said anything, and it's I mean, it's

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00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: tough to navigate this, But I'm curious of the national

475
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: view as opposed to the local view of this. Are

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Speaker 1: they different? Yeah, I mean I think from a local standpoint,

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Speaker 1: if we're talking about the view of what this whole

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00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: thing is about, yes, I think it's different. If we're

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Speaker 1: talking about the viewpoint of how this will end up,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that you know, the local people here

481
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: also feel like this is not going to end well

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Speaker 1: in that he's going to probably wind up somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: But I mean from the standpoint of what this is

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Speaker 1: all about, you know, we deal with Aaron on a

485
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: regular basis and know a lot about him, and also

486
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: know a lot about the Packers and Brian Gutekunst and

487
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: what they've done to, you know, build around Rogers, and

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Speaker 1: you know there's a sentiment all through the national media

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Speaker 1: that he's not had anybody to play with through his

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Speaker 1: most of his career, and of us locally know about

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Speaker 1: Greg Jennings and Jordy Nelson and Drew Michael Finley and

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00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb and DeVante Adams and forgetting a bunch of

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Speaker 1: people in a really good offensive line. So I think

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00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: there is some difference. Yeah, and then you start to

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00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: look at possible destinations here for Aaron Rodgers. Why is

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00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: Denver standing out over everybody else at least that that

497
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: feels like Denver is the front runner if he doesn't

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Speaker 1: stay in Green Bay. Yeah, it does to me too.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why. I guess maybe for one, it's

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Speaker 1: got to be in the AFC, you know, just history

501
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: tells us it's got to be in the AFC. Ted

502
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: Ted Thompson Dealt Brett Fire to the Jets, and Brian

503
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: budecrinst is Ted thompson disciple. He's not going to trade him,

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Speaker 1: you know, to anyone in the NFC. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that could beat him, So that that's number one. Then

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Speaker 1: you look at Denver. I just think that, and I'm

507
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 1: speculating some here, but John Elway has got to know

508
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Speaker 1: what an MVP quarterback and do for him. They did

509
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: it with Peyton Manning and I always won two Super

510
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: Bowls at the end of his career, and so why

511
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: couldn't Rogers win too for Denver. That's kind of my

512
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: vice sentiment or my thought on why it would be

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Speaker 1: Denver Now it could be the Raiders. I think that

514
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Speaker 1: probably would be very logical. I'm not sure that Aaron

515
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: Rodgers would know what he's getting into if he goes

516
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: to play for John Gruden, but you know, Denver, Denver

517
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Speaker 1: just seems more logical to me. If you could get

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Speaker 1: real answers, honest answers from Rogers or somebody within the

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00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: Packers organization, who would you want to talk to today?

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00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: Rogers okay, no question. I mean, let's hear it, you know,

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00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: right right from him. I want to hear what his

522
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: gripes are, what is real and what isn't real? And

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00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: is he really dug in? I mean, that's that's the

524
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: sense I get that he is so dug in that

525
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: he's never going to play for the Packers again. But

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00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: then you always get the mixed messages from his former

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Speaker 1: teammates who are now sort of moving the dial a

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00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: little bit towards he'll come back. I know, you know,

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Speaker 1: certain things are changed. I don't know if it's going

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Speaker 1: to require Briden Grutkums to take out a billboard and

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Speaker 1: Green Bay that he's sorry he drafted to fly a

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Speaker 1: lamp over Lambeau. You know, I'm sorry, Aaron. I don't know.

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00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: I really don't know. Yeah, you just trying to figure

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00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: out what the time frame is on all of this.

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00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: And so Jordan's Love is not going to be ready

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00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: again this year? Is that? Is that right? That's my

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00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: gut feeling. You know, when it was kind of tough

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00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: last year because train camp was shortened, we only got

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00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: to see in Love a little and I'm by we,

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00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: I mean the media, and then during once practice starter

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00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,719
Speaker 1: for the season, you almost never see him. You just

542
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: saw him throwing drills on air, so you couldn't really

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00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: tell where he was at. The coaches give you the

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00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: usual that he's advancing, but you know, Brian Riderkins made

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00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: it pretty clear when he drafted him that this is

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Speaker 1: a two or three year project. And that's kind of

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Speaker 1: where I don't understand from Roger's standpoint, why there's he

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00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: feels threatened about it because he should be able to

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00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: beat this guy out this year and next year and

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00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: maybe even the year after that, and I think he

551
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: could fulfill his contract easily. But you know, if he

552
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: plays like if he plays like he did last year

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00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: this year, how do they come? I mean, how do

554
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: you cut a guy? What if he wins the Super Bowl?

555
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: How do you cut a Super Bowl quarterback and move

556
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: on to the next guy. I just I don't that's

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00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: the part, the insecurity part that I don't understand. Tom.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. I know you've been busy

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Speaker 1: covering this. We appreciate your time anytime. Dan. That's to Silverstein,

560
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Speaker 1: the Packers beat reporter Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. Here's something for you.

561
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Speaker 1: Packers have drafted zero wide receivers in the first round

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00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: during Aaron Rodgers sixteen seasons in Green Bay. Patriots drafted

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00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: zero wide receivers in the first round. During Tom Brady's

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00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: first sixteen seasons in New England. Tom won five Super

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00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: Bowls in those sixteen years. Rogers has won one stat

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Speaker 1: of the day, stat of the day, that past stat

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00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: of the day, stat of the day here comes that

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00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: what stat of the day? Although the Packers have drafted

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Speaker 1: a quarterback in the first round und whereas the Patriots

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00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: did not. That's why we're here because if they didn't

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Speaker 1: draft Jordan Love. And I go back to what I said,

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00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: I if Rogers scores from eight yards out and they

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00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: beat the Buccaneers and go to the Super Bowl, is

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00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: he worried about Jordan Love? Is he worried about what?

575
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: Does he have a problem with the GM. You have

576
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: a good team the Packers in the last two years.

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00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: That that's what you want. And they have surrounded Rogers

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Speaker 1: with talent. Now, could they have drafted a wide receiver, yes,

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00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 1: they could have, but they do have a good offensive line,

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00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,959
Speaker 1: good running back. They have found good receivers, a good

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00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: tight end. That's that's what's that's what's different about this? Yes, Paulie.

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Speaker 1: Can you guess how many quarterbacks the Patriots drafted while

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00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: Tom Brady was on the roster During tom Brady's I

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00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: guess two decades in New England? Guess how many quarterbacks

585
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: they used draft picks on seven? Anyone else want to

586
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: take a shot, I'd say six? Ten. They drafted ten

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00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: quarterbacks after Tom Brady joined Rohan Davy, Cliff Kingsbury, Mattcastle,

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00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell, third round pick, Zach Robinson, Ryan Mallett, third

589
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: round pick, Jimmy Garoppo's second round pick, Jacobe Procett, third

590
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: round pick, Danny Etling, and Jared Stidham. Ian Rappaport says

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00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: the Packers made a quote significant long term contract offered

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. The two sides, however, are quote not in

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Speaker 1: a good place. Rogers has talked to several players about

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Speaker 1: if thirty thirty was a big deal, I would have

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Speaker 1: done it every year. They weren't stat conscious the way

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Speaker 1: we are now. Everything is about stats and it's easy

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Speaker 1: to consume because it's perfect for social media. The triple double,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't called a triple double one Oscar play. I

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Speaker 1: think it became a triple double maybe with Magic, certainly

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Speaker 1: with Jay Kidd, but it wasn't a thing. Oscar just

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Speaker 1: averaged double digits and points, rebounds and assists, and growing

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Speaker 1: up in Cincinnati where Oscars started, we just thought Oscar's

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Speaker 1: just a great player. We didn't go, oh, he's better

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Speaker 1: than Jerry West because he averages a triple double. If

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00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: Oscar averaged I don't know thirty nine and nine, same

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Speaker 1: player any different. But we didn't have the term triple

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Speaker 1: double back then. It was just Oscar was great, right.

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Speaker 1: I never gave it pause where I went he's averaging

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Speaker 1: double digit rebounds. It's just you watched Oscar play and

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Speaker 1: you knew that he was one of the great players

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Speaker 1: in the game. Will Chamberlain probably average a triple double

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Speaker 1: in points, rebounds and blocks, will once led the league

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Speaker 1: and assists. I mean, there's these statistical anomalies, and we

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Speaker 1: fall in love with that. Is Russ a great player?

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Speaker 1: Does he help his team win? Would you want him

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Speaker 1: as your teammate? Those are things that I think are

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Speaker 1: fair to the conversation. If you're going to say he

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Speaker 1: belongs in there's the second greatest point guard of all time. Now, statistically,

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Speaker 1: if you want to put him in there over John

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Speaker 1: Stockton or Isaiah Thomas or whoever it might be, do

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00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: you want to play with that player. James Harden wanted

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Speaker 1: out of Houston, Kevin Durant wanted out of Oklahoma City.

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Speaker 1: Russ was with both of those guys. Russ got traded

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Speaker 1: for John wall when's the last time you watch John

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Speaker 1: walleny game? I love watching Russell Westbrook play. The fact

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Speaker 1: that every every single not every single game, every single possession,

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Speaker 1: it feels like it's the most important thing in his life.

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Speaker 1: But is that a good thing? Ball dominant, probably more

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Speaker 1: ball dominant than anybody in the history of the game.

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Speaker 1: Let that sink in. He's got the ball. Do we

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Speaker 1: diminish the triple double now because it's Russell Westbrook? Whereas

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Speaker 1: we celebrated the reason why Oscar is a top ten

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Speaker 1: player is in part due to the triple double, because

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Speaker 1: we went, oh my god, he average a triple double.

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Speaker 1: He's got to be one of the great players of

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Speaker 1: all time an Oscar is, But is he one of

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Speaker 1: the top ten players? Is Russell Westbrook going to be

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Speaker 1: one of the top twenty five players of all time?

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Speaker 1: And he probably will be. I got a list of

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Speaker 1: players going at top players according to ESPN dot com

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Speaker 1: coming into this season. You know, I love a good

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Speaker 1: list here. This is coming into this season. Lebron Is one,

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Speaker 1: Anthony Davis two, Janis three, Luca four, Kawhi, Kevin Durant,

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Speaker 1: Dame Lillard, Steph Curry, James Harden, and the Joker. You

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Speaker 1: have to go all the way to thirty six to

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Speaker 1: find Russell Westbrook. He's just above Marcus Smart. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Russ made the All Star team this year. It's

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Speaker 1: a it's a it's a great accomplishment. It truly is

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Speaker 1: to do this for your career. But I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he's one of the great point guards of all time.

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Speaker 1: Fascinating yes, statistical anomaly, yes, is he a great player?

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Speaker 1: Do you want him on your team? Games on the line,

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Speaker 1: big possession and look, I don't put all the blame

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Speaker 1: on him what happened with Okase, but it feels like

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant was like, I'm not winning a title with

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Speaker 1: this guy. Let me go see if I can pick

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Speaker 1: off one or two with Golden State James Harden. He

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Speaker 1: wanted Russell Westbrook and then he didn't. Now he's in Washington.

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Speaker 1: If there's a basketball purgatory, it's pretty close. Like you

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Speaker 1: at least passed through Washington with their basketball team before

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Speaker 1: you get to basketball purgatory. Maybe Sacramento. Yes, I think

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Speaker 1: one of the criticism when he misses, it's just so bad,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not like it goes in and out

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Speaker 1: like last night his game winning shot attempt. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just a clank. He's a score, not a shooter. Now,

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00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: I hear this. Boy, if he could shoot, he'd be okay, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right if he could, but he can't. We'll talk

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