1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: At least. He's The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Williamson on Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt 4 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: Williamson and uh well, it's a special day here we got. 5 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: We're joined for this first segment by our our co worker, 6 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: Mike Pursuita, also the Steelers Radio networking of course the 7 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: DV morning show. You can read Mike on Steelers dot 8 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: Com as well, and kicking off tomorrow. One of the 9 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: reasons why we're having Mike on today, we're actually starting 10 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: our triple takes for the draft a little bit earlier 11 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: this year than what we did last year. They were 12 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: highly highly popular. I'm sure you've all heard about them 13 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: absolutely in Yeah, so you can check that out on 14 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: Steelers dot Com tomorrow as we start ranking our guys 15 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: going into this draft. Tomorrow will drop the quarterback rankings. 16 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: But Mike, how are you doing? Doing well? Guys have 17 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: to go today. It is going We're still trying to us, 18 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: you know, keep ahead of the snow. As you can imagine. 19 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: I think you you live on the eastern part of 20 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: the city, you could probably get more snow than what 21 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: we do, Matt and I do in the South Hills. 22 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: My shoveling for today is done early today. A pretty 23 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: regular activity here last week or so. At least you're 24 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: staying busy, you guys. Tell me I shovel it one 25 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: way or another, Mike, As as I mentioned, we're gonna 26 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: start the draft series on Steelers dot Com here a 27 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: little bit earlier this year, and of course no NFL 28 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: scouting combine, uh to to kind of take a look 29 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: at these guys. Have you found uh now that you 30 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: started digging into the draft as Matt and I have 31 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: information a little more difficult to find this year, easier 32 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: to find. Well, what do you think this is gonna 33 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: look like for teams going into this this whole next month, 34 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: month and a half where they get ready for the draft. 35 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: You know it's for me it's been more difficult. You know, 36 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: I'm not a professional scout I have I have only 37 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: play one on the radio. Yeah, limited resources. I saw 38 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: a comment from Bruce Arians the other day and he 39 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: was kind of ho humming the lack of a combine 40 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: and saying, um, well, it's all about the tape anyway. 41 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: But two things about that Number one, A lot of 42 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: these guys didn't play last year, So do you trust 43 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: Warning nine team tape and number two I've just got 44 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: done this week reviewing all the practices from the Senior 45 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: Bowl in the actual game. And boys, you heard it once, 46 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: you heard it a hundred times that the coaching staff 47 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 1: down there, Brian Floores and Matt Rule, they had such 48 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: an advantage because they were around all these guys. Now, 49 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: all the team teams were down there to talk to them. 50 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: But I think the combined interviews go a long way too. 51 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: And I think the more you can be around these people, 52 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: the easier it is to evaluate them. And that was 53 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 1: affected in the fall is being affected now. You know. 54 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: It was a different way to do it things last 55 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: year for the NFL, and it's gonna be a different 56 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: way again now. A lot of teams pulled it off. 57 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: I thought the Steelers had a great draft for normal circumstances, 58 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: they had a great draft. But can they do it again? Yeah, 59 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: that's the that's gonna be the strange things. Last year 60 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: we had the combine but not the Pro Days. This 61 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: year we're gonna have no combine. We're gonna have the 62 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: Pro Days. The problem was, however, throughout the course of 63 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: the season, the NFL didn't and a lot of colleges, 64 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: No colleges actually, the NFL made this a rule. The 65 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: scouts weren't allowed to go on campus except on game days. 66 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: You could go and watch games, but you couldn't go 67 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: into practices and talk to people, be around them and 68 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: hob nob and all those valuable things that happened in 69 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: that way, and even all of us convening in Indianapolis 70 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: for the combine, And there's a lot of information that 71 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: gets thrown around and the pubs and some of them 72 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: misinformation purposefully. But but you know, you sift through all 73 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: that stuff. But I mean, even like when we sat 74 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: there and did shows last year, we knew Philip Rivers 75 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: was gonna be a colt right done deal, And I'm 76 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: sure there's a lot more agent talk, and like it 77 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: blows me away that not every team was at Trevor 78 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: Lawrences Pro Day like that, get out of the house. 79 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: You're getting a free pie opportunity to you get on 80 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: an opportunity to go to the Clemson campus. It's not 81 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: like it's not like they pulled five Slappy's out of 82 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: the local mall to have him throw to right and 83 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: you get to talk to Dabbo and you know the 84 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: Strength guy about the other Clemson dudes. You're not gonna 85 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: get Lawrence, but you can find information there. There's agents 86 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: running around. You go to all every event you possibly 87 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: cant right, right right, I get to go to go 88 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: to South Carolina. That's why Matt and I were just 89 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: lamenting the fact that we'll be heading to the Combine, 90 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: I believe next week. And you know I've gone to 91 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: the Combine the last like seven year years and honestly 92 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: it you take like a three block section of Indianapolis 93 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: and you put people from all thirty two teams in 94 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: that in every person from that three block area, in 95 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: addition to scouts you've got, you've got agents, you've got 96 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: you know, you see everybody, everybody from the NFL is there, 97 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: and you know you're just not gonna have that this 98 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: year that you would enjoy yourself there. Mike. I've been 99 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: to Miinapolis and I have enjoyed it. Never made a 100 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: combine combines a different animal. Look plate, did you guys 101 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: go looking for information at night? I have been too 102 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: as well. And then they are informative plate things. Uh, Mike, 103 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: when you were breaking down this year's quarterback group. I 104 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: don't want to give I don't want us to give 105 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: too much. What we do want people to watch the 106 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: triple take um. But we've seen with Carson Wentz being 107 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: traded this week. Uh, there are no quarterbacks drafted between 108 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: the years two thousand and nine and twenty seventeen as 109 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: the Mahomes year that are still with the teams that 110 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: drafted them in the first round round quarterbacks and not 111 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: one of them are with their with the team that 112 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 1: drafted him. What does that tell you about this whole 113 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: You know, you got a draft a quarterback in the 114 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: first round stuff. You know, I think it's tells you 115 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: a lot about the lack of patience teams to have 116 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: with these guys and maybe the pressure that they've been feeling. 117 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: You go get a guy. Um. You know, it's kind 118 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: of paraphrase James Harrison from years back, just because you 119 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: pay a guy like a franchive quarterback, that doesn't make 120 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: him once. And the other thing I think it tells 121 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: you is and this is I've kind of had this 122 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: suspicion the last year or so that back in the 123 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: in the middle of Ben Roethlisberger's career, I'd look at 124 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: him and the other franchise quarterbacks. It was a short 125 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: list and I would think, boy, you gotta have one 126 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: of these guys or you cannot win. And now I 127 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: think the game is changing. It's going to be a 128 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: different kind of quarterback that leads to charge. You know, 129 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: despite the results of the Super Bowl, I think going forward, 130 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: guys are gonna look more like Patrick Mahomes than they 131 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: do Tom Brady in terms of how they play. And 132 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: I think because all the colleges do is past now 133 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: more and more we're seeing more quarterbacks and and a 134 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: lot more receivers. I think receivers become the easiest position 135 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: to find on the planet, and quarterback I don't think 136 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: it's as hard as it used to be. You know 137 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: what you're looking for. Yeah, I think there's a little 138 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: bit of a cheap code nowadays. That Josh Allen wasn't 139 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: a good thrower early in his career, Lamar is still learning. 140 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: These guys are m v P caliber performers because of 141 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: what they do off script and with their physical tools. 142 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: Then I think that really reflects on the Steelers because 143 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: at some point this year, next year, whatever they're gonna 144 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: be in the market for the next guy. And I 145 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: absolutely think athleticism has to be a big component of it. 146 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: They don't have to be the best runner in the league, 147 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: but you gotta be able to extend plays. You need 148 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: to be a section second reaction player. The offensive lineman 149 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: just can't block these defensive linemen anymore. That's why holding. Yeah, 150 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: that's that's reflective of you know, because all the colleges 151 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: do his pass, all the defenses and college does rush 152 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: the pass right, So that's a good developing, you know, Uh, 153 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: throw catch Russ cover. That's that's the way the games 154 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: played now, and those quarterbacks paths to either extend to play, 155 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: and I think they got to be able to also 156 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: take what's there, you know, improv something and turn the 157 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: wrong play into the right play or at least not 158 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: as disaster play. And I think everybody's gonna have one 159 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: of those guys. But uh, you know, if you look back, 160 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: it took the Steelers a long time to go from 161 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback Terry Bradshaw through franchise quarterback Ben roths Burger. 162 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a hell of a lot 163 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: easier whenever Rofic Burger's career ends to get you know, 164 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: a functional guy you can win with. To your point 165 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: on that, um, you know, think about when they drafted 166 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: Cordell Stewart in the second round. If Courdell Stewart came 167 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: out today in today's NFL, he's a first round draft pick. Dude, 168 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought this up because I've been wanting 169 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: to talk about this with you for a while. I 170 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: look at Vic, Vince Young and Courdel Stewart. They might 171 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,599 Speaker 1: challenge Trevor Lawrence to be the first pick of the 172 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: draft this year. Yeah, Lawrence is a franchise player. Courdell 173 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: would have to you know, worked on the interceptions, which 174 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: he never quite did, particularly in an NFC championship games. 175 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, I see where you're going with that. But 176 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: if if somebody designed an offense for him and which 177 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: which he was allowed to run not worth oh hey, 178 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: just you know take off if nothing like, he would 179 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: be special Joe Reid stuff, you know, right, I think 180 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: it could have been a special receiver too, But maybe 181 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: that's just me. Well, and there's that, and and you know, 182 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: think about a guy like Antoine Randall l when he 183 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: came out, you know, he put up some good numbers 184 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: throwing the football at Indiana in the big time. A 185 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: little too small for the Sunday Lake at that position. 186 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: But he's just same size as Russell Wilson philosophically Russell 187 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: Sticker though, right yeah, yeah, but still, I mean it's 188 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: he's the same size as Kyler Murray. He would have 189 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: he would have gotten it. He would have gotten a 190 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: chance to play quarterback in today's NFL. Well, at least 191 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: you got a chance to throw a to stuff. He 192 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: did get to do that. But when you when you 193 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: look at, um, what the Steelers need to do in 194 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: this year's draft? What what are your priorities for this team? 195 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: You know, I mean the confective lines, the obvious one, right, 196 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: because you know you've lost pilots you already. Uh, it's 197 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: assumed they're not gonna have building a waiver and I 198 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: don't know what the odd bar on Filer coming back 199 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: or not. You're looking to replace multiple starters up front, 200 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: and you know, I don't think the depth was great. 201 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: But really, guys everywhere I think but wide receiver because 202 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: they're so easy to find. Um, I'm not happy with 203 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: what they have it running back, I'm not happy with 204 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: what they have an inside linebacker rather than Devin Bush. 205 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: I don't think they have enough depth that outside lifeback 206 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: you saw last year once you lost Bud Dupree. You've 207 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: got to have more than two guys at that position 208 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: to function. You just do, uh, quarterback, Are they gonna 209 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: have both starters or they're gonna have to get rid 210 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: of one of them because of the calf Even if 211 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 1: they don't, what's the depth situation? Like there? Um, there's 212 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: a lot of holes to fill. I think they can 213 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: go a number of ways. Again, obviously I think of 214 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: the offensive line for priority, but after that, you know, 215 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: if they want to play the board, I think they can. 216 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: If they want to move down and and try to 217 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: get some more fix to get more good players as 218 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: opposed to that home run, I don't think he replaced 219 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: Marquis Pouty with another Hall of Fame caliber center. But 220 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 1: you know a lot of teams don't have all of 221 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: Fame caliber centers and they still can win. Hypothetical Mike, 222 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: I mean, if there hasn't been a running back selected 223 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: and we get our running back stuff too, people can 224 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: look for that coming up next week, I would imagine, 225 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: and you have your choice of the board, whether it's 226 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: a t N or Harris or whoever you prefer for 227 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: the Steelers, all things being equal, would you grab that 228 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: guy or a tackle that's a deeper position this year 229 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 1: that you had a similar grade on. It's a great question, 230 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: and uh maybe one you can't answer truth way until 231 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: you're actually get in that situation. Then you're looking at 232 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: the board. But I just it's like suspicion, and you know, 233 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: this year's study has not changed this suspicion yet. I 234 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: think it's easier to find a fact than it is 235 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: a tackle. I agree of the time, I'm not sure 236 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: this year. I think it largely depends on the tackle. 237 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: We haven't done our tackle breakdowns yet. But you know, 238 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: if there's a guy sitting there, like a Christian Derris 239 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: saw at twenty four, I think you sprint to the 240 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: the a natural left tackle, a guy who's going to 241 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: play that position for you for the next decade. The mentality, yeah, 242 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: you you've you sprinted the board and that if it's 243 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: a guy, if it's one of the lesser guys who 244 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: he might be, he might be able to play left tackle, 245 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: he's probably more of a right Three of them on 246 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: the board and you're not sure which one you like best. Yeah, 247 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: And I think that that that factors into it all 248 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: as well. I think those true left tackles are the 249 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: ones that are gonna go early. And then when we 250 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: talk about the depth at the offensive tackle position, is like, Okay, 251 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: this guy, you know, at worst he kicks inside the 252 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: guard for you for a couple of years and then 253 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: maybe he moves outside to tackle. Well, you have some 254 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: of that. You know you need you know you need 255 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: those as many special players as you can get, as 256 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: many starters coming out of this draft as you can get. 257 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: As bad as that seems to sound, because you may 258 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: be looking at at four or five rookie starters next 259 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: year for the Pittsburgh Steelers, which just hasn't happened. Some 260 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: of that got to depend on the way teams do 261 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: the two positions. Right, the tackles are gonna go before 262 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: the running backs. I mean, they're as special as Harrison. 263 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: At the n R people are saying, well, they're the 264 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: first round back if there's the first round back, and 265 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: that's not a ridiculous contention. I mean, if you're gonna 266 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: give me the tackle that they'll just outlined, and then 267 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: I get Carter in the second round. If I'm going 268 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: tackle running back, I'm fine with that. It's funny like 269 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: Harris is the one that's most mocked to the Steelers 270 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: because he's bigger than a t N. He's got a 271 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: potential first round pick, and again people will get our 272 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: our views on him. But do you agree, Mike. I mean, 273 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: I know it's common to say running backs don't matter, 274 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: and I'm with you. Tackles are way more valuable than 275 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: running backs in a nutshell. But if they had a 276 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: guy like Nauj Harris this past year, and really the 277 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: year before when Ben was out, I think this offense 278 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: would have been remarkably different. Like le On Belts, Yeah, 279 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: like that player perhaps, Yeah, that would have looked like 280 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: I'll say this, and I looked this up last night, 281 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: so I know this off the top of my head. 282 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: But of the two, I was actually doing some research, 283 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: believe it or not. Yeah, of the top ten leading 284 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: rushers in the NFL last season, the top nine, we're 285 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: guys who were drafted after the first round. The tenth 286 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: guy was the kid from Oakland. He was a first 287 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: round draft, but he was the highest first round draft 288 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: pick who finished in the top ten and rushing and 289 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: now Saffre and Barkley were heard yea but saying saying 290 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: that the top three guys were all second round picks. 291 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: The guy Chub, Henry is Yeah. I mean that's kind 292 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: of the sweet spot to find that back now and 293 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: while the Steelers have invested draft picks on running backs 294 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: in each of the last four years, it's been that 295 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: that fourth fifth round guy and you're just not getting Yeah, 296 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: you're not getting that guy there. I mean you're taking 297 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: a shot to maybe, hey, maybe this guy turns into something, 298 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: but it's not. It's not as guaranteed as is is. 299 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: He saw this year with with the the number of 300 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: drafts or the backs taken in the second round, and 301 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: they all at some point in the season like, oh, yeah, 302 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: that guy's pretty good. Yeah. I mean I contend that 303 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: ten years ago, let alone maybe even five, let alone 304 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: twenty one, I was a kid. Jonathan Taylor, Derrick Henry, 305 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb, their top eight picks, they're all first round pick. 306 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: Now they go in the top eight to the second round. 307 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: You know that was four, right, yeah, three or three 308 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: or four whatever whatever it was, And that was that's 309 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: the outlier. That's the outloud. I mean, there's been some 310 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: Zekes and some McCaffrey's girly, but that's rare. Now, yeah, 311 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: they're got to be special. Was the second round pick? Right, 312 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: I'd like to see everybody who was picked ahead of 313 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: them going back. That's you know that you can get 314 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: that guy in the second round. So I think tackle 315 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: to you know the roundabout answer Dale to the where 316 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: Matt was that you asked me, I gotta go the 317 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: rare beasts. Yeah, there are only so many you know, 318 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: six ft five athletic pounders walking the planet. It's the 319 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: it's the planet theory. Whereas you know, you look at 320 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: the running back position. The other thing that I noticed 321 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: when we were breaking down athletic Yeah, there's a right 322 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: but you'll see but you see, you see colleges even 323 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: take chances on those guys. Uh, you know, hey, this 324 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: kid's he's six five and he's you know, he's three 325 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: thirty pounds. Maybe we can turn him into something. You know, 326 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: they'll they'll take a shot in those guys. Um. The 327 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: one thing that I did notice is this has been 328 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: the last two years when it was going over the 329 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: running backs, and this is still fresh in all of 330 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: our minds since we just did our running back triple 331 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: take is there aren't as many big backs coming out 332 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,959 Speaker 1: of colleges anymore. You just don't see those those two 333 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: hundred forty pound running backs that are the the you know, 334 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: the bell cow big back you know you're looking at 335 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: you know, a big back now is two d twenty pounds. 336 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back to uh. I'll go back to lady On again. 337 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he wasn't two back and Mike Tomas told 338 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: me wanted them to be a two pound pack because 339 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's all about the speed, right um. 340 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: You know those slam it up and there are guys 341 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: the dinosaurs now. And not only is it the speed, 342 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: is the defense. It's the ability to contribute in the 343 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 1: pasting game that that's so critical. And I think you know, 344 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: at the very least, you've got to be able to 345 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: do the you know, drift out into the flat, catch 346 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: the ball in space and turn it into something thing. 347 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: But you know, guys that can motion out of the 348 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: backfield and maybe line up in the slatter, line up 349 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: wide next we've run a reasonable route. Those guys are 350 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: gold now that without question, and Mike, I don't want 351 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: to get too much into mac Jones because we had 352 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: a really good conversation with him on the video. UM. 353 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: To me, he's really the only potential first round option 354 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: this year for the Steelers is do you think I 355 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: guess the short question is do you think the draft 356 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: draft only is quarterback next year's project, not this year's. 357 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: You know that's my mindset. But you caught me on 358 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: a bad day because, as I mentioned, I went through 359 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: all the Senior Bowl stuff all week, and traditionally there's 360 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: a couple of three guys that I get a man 361 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: crush on watching all the Senior Bowl stuff. Last year 362 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: was I can't remember the guy's name. He was an 363 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: edge rusher from Utah. I think he went in the 364 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: fifth round. I had a potentially a second round pick 365 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: for the Steelers. Um. I love mac Jones, and I 366 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: agree that he's the hunter and he's degrees from from 367 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: where the position is going. But there are exceptions to 368 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: every rule, and that that combination of you know, above 369 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: the neck and the actor, seeing the precision and the 370 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: discipline and the leadership, with all those other intangibles and 371 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: the competitiveness, I certainly don't hold it against him. And 372 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: he played at Alabama and he had a bunch of 373 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: good players around because all they did was win. I mean, 374 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: I don't I judge people on what they do, not 375 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: on you know, I used to hear that about Chuck 376 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: Noll a long time ago. Well she should have won 377 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: four Super Bowls. Look at all the players. Yet well 378 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: John Madden had more guys in the Hall of Fame 379 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: and he won one Super Bowl. So so uh, you know, 380 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: he was in the position to play at Alabama and 381 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: he did what he did. I don't I don't hear. 382 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: The thing compared is when they're talking about the Bam 383 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: offensive lineman or the family receivers or the family linebackers. 384 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like other than you lack 385 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: of athletics and you do still have to throw the ball. 386 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: And I'm not looking for a quarterback to be my 387 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: leading RuSHA. I wanted to extend and take what's there 388 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: and and and play athletically, but I still wanted to 389 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: throw with precision and have the NFL arm. And uh, 390 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: I think I think Jones is so far over the 391 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: top everywhere, but athletically, I'm willing to overlook that he 392 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: plays the game in the way not too many people 393 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: are gonna play it anymore. I just look at it. 394 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: To your point about waiting until next year, I think 395 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: you need way too many other things this year to 396 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: go get the quarterback this year. I think you gotta 397 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: build that nest around him and make life easier for him. 398 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: And building that nest around him is improving that offensive 399 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: line and running the great point is certainly not going 400 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: to help to go get a franchise quarterback to be 401 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: and then let him get killed behind the offensive line 402 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: to sin tray exuition without a running game. Yeah, that's 403 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: that's kind of what Cincinnati did, and they were you know, 404 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: Cincinnati was in the position where, okay, we get the 405 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,959 Speaker 1: number one pick, so you take you, so you take Burrow. 406 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:13,959 Speaker 1: But he got killed this year and threw the ball 407 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,239 Speaker 1: sixty times a game like that was an ideal and 408 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: so you you know, you do worry about putting those 409 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: guys in a position where they can't succeed and where 410 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: they get beaten up to the point where the confidence 411 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 1: is shaken. I think it's such a confident to our 412 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: initial point when we're talking about how many quarterbacks have 413 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: changed teams much like cornerback, that that that quarterback position 414 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: is all about confidence, and man, if you saw it 415 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: with Carson Wentz is the perfect example. I mean, two 416 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: years ago we're talking about Carson Wentz. Is Wow, this 417 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: guy's a franchise quarterback and there's no way that the 418 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: Eagles would ever move on from They gave him a 419 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: four million dollar contract and two years later they're trading him. 420 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: Because if you watched him play this year, he had 421 00:21:54,880 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 1: no confidence. No, he didn't trust go ahead throughout because 422 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: he got pummeled, right, I mean that that offensive line 423 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: was amateur hour and he just got killed and beaten 424 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: to death, and he started making throws you should never 425 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: make and missing by margins that you should never miss 426 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: by at this level. I just, you know, I was 427 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: doing some other Feelers dot Com research and I went 428 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: back and looked at the Eagles Steelers game and in 429 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, it's still a game. It's a two 430 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: score game, but the Eagles are still in it. And 431 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: he missed that hurts so badly that Steven Nelson had 432 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: to make a diving interception and Nelson was kind of 433 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: in the area. I mean, it's just his game degenerated 434 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: so quickly. In Philadelphia, I think they had to move on. 435 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he can't, you know, get it back, 436 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: but that's the guy who's picked one second overall and 437 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: he's already moved on. Uh. That's that. That is the 438 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: danger when you when you want one so bad that 439 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: that you decide you have one. It's out of you know, 440 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: kind of letting the the draft game come to you, 441 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: letting the draft game come to you. That's the that's 442 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: the Yeah, absolutely, you can't. You can't force it. You 443 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: can't because it just costs too much the cost to 444 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: how long did that, you know, cost you to recover 445 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: from that? We look at the quarterback again, right, yeah, 446 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: we we went over at the last week. You know 447 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: what the Eagles gave up to go up and get Wentz. 448 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: They had to make multiple trades in the first round. 449 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: The Rams with Jared Goff have given up essentially like 450 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: five first round draft picks to find to figure out 451 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: their quarterback situation. And then you give them thirty five 452 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: million a year and you gave him a bunch of money. 453 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: So it's it isn't an exact science. And yeah, if 454 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna make that move up, they don't. Alway, it 455 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: doesn't always happen that you're sitting there with the eleventh 456 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: pick in Ben Roethlisberger falls into your lap and it works, 457 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: and it works. Yeah, and there's patients involved too. It 458 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: sure helps not to change your coach every two years 459 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: or you know, right, Yeah, I just I think you 460 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: know more and more. I think that's gonna be less 461 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: of a concern because I'm there's gonna be more of 462 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: these guys available every year, and uh, you know, for 463 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: what it's worth, I think the timing of events departure 464 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: whenever that occurs, it's it's not bad considering this applies 465 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: a little stronger than it used to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 466 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,239 Speaker 1: I think so as well. But Mike, we appreciate you 467 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: dropping by here again. You can hear Mike, myself and 468 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: Matt on the Triple Take. The first one will drop 469 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: by tomorrow on Steelers dot com. You can also get 470 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 1: that on the Steelers YouTube channel. Where else, Mike, A 471 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: lot of places, a lot of places. Just do a 472 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: search right here. It's UHC by the way. There you go, 473 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: dot Com, the Steeler's mobile app, the official YouTube page, 474 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: the Triple Take podcast, and Nation Radio. There you go. 475 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: We're all over the place, but you can check that out. 476 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: We'll be doing these well all the way up until 477 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: the draft, so it's good stuff we have. We have 478 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: a lot of fun doing them as well. But Mike, 479 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: we appreciate you stopping by. He was Mike Pursuit of 480 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: That's Matt Williams and I'm Dale Lally. We want to 481 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: thank you Jacob Break for keeping us here on the air, 482 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: and we want to thank you for listening to this 483 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: edition of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.