Speaker 1: Welcome back, listeners to your one and only source into
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Speaker 1: Hello Hello. What's the episode titled Dan Dave Florette. Yes,
Speaker 1: I feel in Dan Florette. Um. I think based on
Speaker 1: a movie, right, based on the movie Jean de Florette. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's a very exciting European titled episode first, very European. Um.
Speaker 1: I always really would love and I guess I still
Speaker 1: could and probably should because it's something that I have
Speaker 1: thought about a lot. Learning French. I just think it's
Speaker 1: such a beautiful language. It's definitely the most romantus. I
Speaker 1: also feel like it's so difficult, but yeah, it's one
Speaker 1: of those languages that I think when you're learning it,
Speaker 1: you have to make a lot of faces, you have
Speaker 1: to do a lot of like mouth faces, and you know,
Speaker 1: you have to just go all all the way all
Speaker 1: in all. Yes, Yeah, but yeah, this I I don't
Speaker 1: know that Filmotte. I'm not familiar. I don't either, and
Speaker 1: I don't exactly understand, you know how that kind of
Speaker 1: combines with the themes of this episode. But I'm sure
Speaker 1: someone out there listening to us does, so maybe they
Speaker 1: can let us know. Yeah, let us know. I don't
Speaker 1: feel like sometimes the titles have to match what's going
Speaker 1: on or like right, be parallel, what what what's going
Speaker 1: on in the episode? I think it's just they take titles.
Speaker 1: So maybe it has something to do with dan Is
Speaker 1: in the title of the movie because he's met a
Speaker 1: movie star and it's like starting up potential. That's maybe
Speaker 1: something along those lines. Okay, so that's our episode. But
Speaker 1: before we get started, to your New York. You're not
Speaker 1: sweating your face off anymore. It's cold, freezing now. Now
Speaker 1: it's taken the turn. So now it's um you know.
Speaker 1: Now it's that kind of thing where I just had
Speaker 1: a Starbucks, you know, peppermint latte because I was like,
Speaker 1: had to get a holiday latte. So that's the weather
Speaker 1: we have now. Yeah, we've taken the turn that time.
Speaker 1: But don't you love that? It's like holidays are near.
Speaker 1: Get to eat all these like comforting foods and cookies,
Speaker 1: and like, oh, I love this time of year so much.
Speaker 1: I do like the romance of the I like the
Speaker 1: romance of the season certainly. So it's like it has
Speaker 1: that vibe in my neighborhood because I live in Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: So around my neighborhood there are a lot of like
Speaker 1: brown stones and people have the wood burning fireplaces so
Speaker 1: during the time, you can smell that beautiful smell and
Speaker 1: you know, it just feels like a movie. So absolutely,
Speaker 1: you know, there's something about New York with all of that.
Speaker 1: Like there's an episode we did on the podcast and
Speaker 1: I'm like, if you've never made out with someone in
Speaker 1: New York City, like grab them in the summer, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if it's hot or not, like walk the
Speaker 1: street holding hands and just make out New York City,
Speaker 1: And it's the same for the winter, like oh yeah,
Speaker 1: where you're cute scarves, hold hands, goes ice skating. I
Speaker 1: don't know that it's just such a romantic city. No
Speaker 1: matter what. It could be hot and sweaty and cold
Speaker 1: and frigid, and you're just like there's still like this
Speaker 1: romance in the air, and it still feels like a
Speaker 1: movie always. Oh yeah, especially yeah, especially when there's a
Speaker 1: little bit of holiday decor and you know, and it's
Speaker 1: also like that you said, you know, making out with
Speaker 1: somebody in the street, it's like kissing someone and there's
Speaker 1: little snow flakes in your eyelashes. Yeah, like it definitely
Speaker 1: is exciting. Yeah, absolutely, there's also something if we're being honest,
Speaker 1: like I do remember when it would be like snowing
Speaker 1: and that first snowfalls so beautiful and everything white, and
Speaker 1: then like later that afternoon or evening snow it's like
Speaker 1: dark and it's just you're a mess. But it's also like,
Speaker 1: you know what, it's okay because I'm in New York City.
Speaker 1: It's like part of part of the charm. In a
Speaker 1: weird it's great when we have a big snowfall and
Speaker 1: then it melts and then it reveals all of the traditions.
Speaker 1: But you know it's the that's the trade off. You know.
Speaker 1: It's like gritty and romantic at the same time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll take it. Um. So here's where we left off.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of guest stars in here in
Speaker 1: this episode that I didn't yeah, like Tyra Banks. I
Speaker 1: didn't remember that at all. I didn't remember that Tyra
Speaker 1: Banks was on the show. And it was like when
Speaker 1: I saw her, I was like, what, um, yeah, what
Speaker 1: a fun I guess you could call it a cameo.
Speaker 1: I mean it's like a one episode kind of special surprise. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then Georgina Chapman, who is the designer from Marquesa,
Speaker 1: which I love that brand, and I love Georgina. She's amazing.
Speaker 1: She's dressed me during the show and after the show
Speaker 1: for many many events and premiers and stuff. She's just
Speaker 1: awesome and lovely, beautiful. And then Tory Birch, a great designer,
Speaker 1: Hilary Duff who plays Vanessa's roommate, um Casey, a lovely actress, Diana.
Speaker 1: It's just there was a ton of guest stars. It
Speaker 1: was really a packed episode, fun of people. Hey, it
Speaker 1: really is, and it's exciting too because it has that
Speaker 1: Hollywood comes to n y U kind of you know
Speaker 1: the way maybe premiere, you know, because it's now that
Speaker 1: I'm rewatching the show, I'm realizing, you know how much
Speaker 1: every almost every episode has that grand event, you know,
Speaker 1: that connecting, you know, that thing where everything goes down.
Speaker 1: So the idea that this was the premiere, the premiere,
Speaker 1: the one, Yeah, I was like thinking about, like when
Speaker 1: having someone like an Olivia Burke, Hillary Duff's character, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that would have to be a very tricky and
Speaker 1: interesting and kind of like totally shocking kind of moment
Speaker 1: to all of a sudden your roommates, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm guessing it would kind of be like a Christian Stewart,
Speaker 1: lovely Christian Stewart. So I feel like this is what
Speaker 1: Olivia Burke is supposed to be at the height of, Yes,
Speaker 1: the height of all the vampire stuff. But you know,
Speaker 1: I also think I was remembering when we shot Gossip Girl.
Speaker 1: The Vampire Diaries I believe was on c W also,
Speaker 1: and that was a very popular show too, so you
Speaker 1: feel like vampires were all around us at that time.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it makes sense that uh, this character Vampire Diaries,
Speaker 1: True Blood, Twilight. You know, it's one of those things
Speaker 1: in Hollywood when something hits and works, everyone tries to
Speaker 1: do it on everything. But but I just felt like
Speaker 1: there was so many I'm like, wow, they're really working.
Speaker 1: These people love these vampires, like oh yeah, or wherever
Speaker 1: they are, whatever it is, people are loving it. It's huge.
Speaker 1: And and the fact that so Olivia is the star
Speaker 1: of one of those I guess it's a movie or
Speaker 1: a TV show and she But you know what I
Speaker 1: else I thought was so cool was that Olivia Burke
Speaker 1: as a name of if You're if You're inventing the
Speaker 1: name of a movie star. It's such a good name
Speaker 1: because it made me think, is there really an Olivia Burke?
Speaker 1: And I was like, no, well it's it's just well suited.
Speaker 1: What was so funny about about this, Like I knew
Speaker 1: Hillary before she came on, so when we found out
Speaker 1: who was playing her, I was like super pumped. And
Speaker 1: she seems you know, I remember her being on set
Speaker 1: because you know, she has her kind of a lengthy storyline,
Speaker 1: and so I remember her being around and she was
Speaker 1: really sweet and and fun to hang out within the
Speaker 1: hair and makeup room and all that stuff. I didn't
Speaker 1: have a lot of overlap with her on screen, but
Speaker 1: on camera it's like she's, you know, so charismatic and
Speaker 1: likable as this character, and you just want so badly
Speaker 1: for her to have, you know, this college moment that
Speaker 1: she wants to have, and so I really just experience
Speaker 1: I forgot. I just forgot how you know, how good
Speaker 1: she is in this role and how magnetic she isn't charming.
Speaker 1: So it was nice to um to see her get introduced. Um, So,
Speaker 1: what what happened last episode? So we were in okay,
Speaker 1: So we left off where yeah, okay, things escalate as
Speaker 1: Georgina and Bree bow out of the action, while Scott
Speaker 1: revealed to be the son of Rufus and Lily Blair's
Speaker 1: partnership with Chuck is once again leading into a clash
Speaker 1: of wills and trust against Serena and Carter. Well, Chuck's
Speaker 1: ambitions to build his own business Bear Fruit, can Serena
Speaker 1: bridge her emotional gap with Carter. There's just you know,
Speaker 1: many things that I'm yeah, I need to know what
Speaker 1: goes down now that we're revisiting that that where we were,
Speaker 1: where we left off. It's like a lot of those
Speaker 1: stories that were developing kind of take a little hiatus
Speaker 1: in this episode here. So it's like the Empire Hotel
Speaker 1: and Carter and all these things are kind of taking
Speaker 1: a back seat here. We all we get introduced to
Speaker 1: the new characters and new ideas, which you know that
Speaker 1: we have plenty of episodes ahead in order to storylines.
Speaker 1: So in this episode, it's the first day at school
Speaker 1: at Constance Billard, which is nice because we get to
Speaker 1: kind of cop back into our high school mode. It's
Speaker 1: also time for Jenny to take her rightful place as
Speaker 1: the new Queen be Unfortunately for Jenny Blair is more
Speaker 1: than happy to interview to intervene when news reaches her
Speaker 1: that she may be needed back at Constance. Meanwhile, this
Speaker 1: Lily returns. So had Kelly returns from her It's ernity
Speaker 1: leaven Lily returns to New York City. Um, she returns
Speaker 1: home to Rufus and her family to find that things
Speaker 1: are definitely not as she left them. Plus, of course,
Speaker 1: the famous movie actress Olivia Burke and rolls and y
Speaker 1: you in hopes of having a somewhat normal college experience,
Speaker 1: and is assigned to be Vanessa's roommate. Ursula, an actress
Speaker 1: co starring in Olivia's movie, befriends Serena when she's hired
Speaker 1: as a publicist for an upcoming premiere. So, yeah, we
Speaker 1: really get a lot of new stuff here. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: introducing a lot of relationships, jobs, roommates, things that you
Speaker 1: know are going to have big arcs and big moments
Speaker 1: here in in season three. Okay, so here, So the
Speaker 1: episode opens, we're on the streets of New York and
Speaker 1: we meet Olivia, but don't really meet Olivia. She says
Speaker 1: her name is Kate. She's got this cute little hat
Speaker 1: on very low key. I do feel like a part
Speaker 1: of this kind of is like a part of what
Speaker 1: Hillary's life probably was, because she was she hit really
Speaker 1: big in the entertainment and all over the world with
Speaker 1: um Lizzie McGuire and she was just this huge mega star,
Speaker 1: and so I feel like that's part of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's like if your career is so big and
Speaker 1: you're sort of still sort of forming your identity and like,
Speaker 1: you know, growing up and coming into your own, it's
Speaker 1: like that that battle, which is really nicely portrayed in
Speaker 1: this episode of of you know, having to fulfill your
Speaker 1: professional obligations, but at the same time just kind of
Speaker 1: live and be who you are and find yourself and
Speaker 1: do college and be normal and have friends and yeah,
Speaker 1: and I feel like that's gotta be tough, because it's
Speaker 1: like once your if your career takes off and it
Speaker 1: hits on something like that, because once you are known
Speaker 1: and that famous, you're also probably a little bit like
Speaker 1: worried and and have your walls up of who's really
Speaker 1: your friends or who's trying to get information or try
Speaker 1: to be your friend for other reasons. So it's like
Speaker 1: it's hard to kind of let that down and be normal.
Speaker 1: I would think for someone like on that level, it
Speaker 1: makes sense that she jumps on this opportunity when Dan
Speaker 1: visibly doesn't know she is, and she's able to just
Speaker 1: be herself with him, and you can see how, you know,
Speaker 1: what a gift that is for her. He's not well
Speaker 1: versed in the vampire movie TV world. He doesn't know
Speaker 1: who she is. I guess I think we have the
Speaker 1: scene where Nate is explaining to him, you know that
Speaker 1: she's coming to n y U. So when he Caesar,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have an inkling and you know, of course
Speaker 1: there's always the complication looking in retrospect, we know that
Speaker 1: in the end of the series, Dana's gossip Girl, and
Speaker 1: so Gossip Girl seems to know about Olivia, but Dan doesn't.
Speaker 1: But one of those does not. But it's one of
Speaker 1: those little, uh, you know, suspensions of disbelief that we
Speaker 1: have to um put into play as we look at
Speaker 1: the Gossip Girl in its linear progression. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: also thought it was like I laughed, I was kind
Speaker 1: of laughing how Vanessa kind of knew and trips. I
Speaker 1: was like, that didn't really feel like that was up
Speaker 1: Vanessa's alley. But she was like, I'm a secret fan
Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna treat you like my roommate. I'm like, okay, Vanessa,
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't picture you to be like, I have
Speaker 1: a question. Vanessa had a single room before, right, did
Speaker 1: she had? What was her roommates? You know? I think
Speaker 1: she was just waiting for her roommate to come, so
Speaker 1: she just had like a delay. Yeah, but there's this
Speaker 1: fabulous the reveal when Vanessa realizes, first of all, she
Speaker 1: walks in and realizes her roommate is here, and it's
Speaker 1: the assistant who has taken down this poster, and so
Speaker 1: you could see Vanessa has been a little bit her
Speaker 1: her territory has been you know, violated a little bit here.
Speaker 1: Um in the beginning, and then we get the reveal
Speaker 1: and it's a great scene. Um, I thought I got
Speaker 1: to kick out of it with this, like just to
Speaker 1: look on your face, you really, yeah, when you're like
Speaker 1: dealing with this assistant and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: faced with this big star you know, coming into be
Speaker 1: your roommate. It was really a fun scene. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. I just remember feeling like, Okay, here's this
Speaker 1: big star and clearly in this episode you can see
Speaker 1: something's going to go down with with Olivia and Dan.
Speaker 1: But um, that seemed to me it was interesting because
Speaker 1: this is a real like turn for Vanessa because here
Speaker 1: now it's like she's dealt with these like popular kids
Speaker 1: on the Upper east Side, So here she is with
Speaker 1: someone on a on a whole bigger scale that the
Speaker 1: whole world knows who this is not just like the
Speaker 1: world on the Upper east Side with Serena. But now
Speaker 1: we're like literally living with each other and roommates and
Speaker 1: you're like starting to possibly date my best friend. So
Speaker 1: it's just to wrap my head around that for Vanessa,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's It's almost like you had practice, Like
Speaker 1: Vanessa had practice dealing with high profile people who are
Speaker 1: out of touch and then also dealing with watching Dan,
Speaker 1: you know, having balancing all of these kind of powerful
Speaker 1: women that he has no idea what he's doing. So
Speaker 1: it's funny because it's, yeah, it really is like a
Speaker 1: turning point for Vanessa or like a coming coming home
Speaker 1: and roost. And Nate says something funny too, like I
Speaker 1: would have just thought a guy who dated Serena Anderwoods
Speaker 1: and would have like more game or something, because He's like, yes,
Speaker 1: that was really good. That was the true. I'm like, true, Nate, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a fun There was a fun scene there
Speaker 1: with them and the like Bishop when when Nate realizes
Speaker 1: that Dan doesn't know who she is and he kind
Speaker 1: of like, let's you know, he doesn't let on because
Speaker 1: he's not like he's like tergaying it too much, which
Speaker 1: is really cute. Um, yeah, I was kind of like
Speaker 1: be a homie and let him know. But then I'm
Speaker 1: also like, no, he's fine, and it's cute that she
Speaker 1: he didn't know. I kind of like that he didn't
Speaker 1: and was like, yeah, but he's never short of girls either. Yeah,
Speaker 1: He's always got He's always got something. And speaking of Georgina,
Speaker 1: so we don't see her in this episode, but we
Speaker 1: know Vanessa has some interaction with Scott and then Scott
Speaker 1: has sort of Georgina on the other line, so we
Speaker 1: know that whatever that is is happening, right, but we
Speaker 1: don't get a lot of vacation, so I don't know
Speaker 1: if she's going to use that relationship or that situation
Speaker 1: to get closer or have something over Dan. I don't
Speaker 1: know because at this point they're not together. Dan's already
Speaker 1: onto Olivia. Why are you like, what what are you
Speaker 1: going to get from Scott? Right? That's really interesting girl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like they plant the seed, but we have no
Speaker 1: idea where that's going at all, no idea. Um, that
Speaker 1: means maybe Scott comes back and he's like dating Olivia too,
Speaker 1: like who knows, but mom got is a secret brother. Um.
Speaker 1: But meanwhile, as all that is going on, we have
Speaker 1: Jenny at school, which I like that they did this
Speaker 1: where we still have like a flavor and a connection
Speaker 1: to the school. But like in the beginning with her,
Speaker 1: when she's like putting on the headbands and then she
Speaker 1: decides not to wear it, I thought that was like, yes,
Speaker 1: very symbolic. Also, she looks so good her hair symbolic
Speaker 1: way of showing that she's, you know who she's going
Speaker 1: to be, that she's not going to embody the classic
Speaker 1: Blair asque queen Bee, but she's going to rather be
Speaker 1: some benevolent um force. And you see that with that
Speaker 1: very simple act of not donning the headband. So I
Speaker 1: really thought that was an interesting start to that. And
Speaker 1: then it was such a fantastic scene I got such
Speaker 1: a kick out of when she actually went to school
Speaker 1: and realized that all of the girls were already doing
Speaker 1: her yes, yes, and already they show up and they
Speaker 1: look like little um photo copies of her little queen.
Speaker 1: First of all, go wash your eyes. Yeah yeah. I
Speaker 1: was like, damn girl, yeah, and she's like and then
Speaker 1: it's it's getting back to Blair that Jenny is like
Speaker 1: not holding court right, And I feel like this whole
Speaker 1: episode with Blair, I just feel like Blair is better
Speaker 1: than that, Like are you still worried about these high
Speaker 1: school girls? Like let's just let that be, like just
Speaker 1: because she can't she's not fitting in and m y
Speaker 1: u and feeling weird, it's like you're gonna go and
Speaker 1: hang out Like I just don't get it. I just
Speaker 1: I'm just like you're you're You've went right, it's the
Speaker 1: next chapter of your life, Like move on. It just
Speaker 1: feels a little like desperate. It's desperate, yeah, because usually
Speaker 1: we have Blair is such a you know, she's such
Speaker 1: a character you know usually who's she stands her strength.
Speaker 1: And then and even if she's insecure and things like that,
Speaker 1: and we all have our own insecurities, they're still she
Speaker 1: still has this like power game where she can like
Speaker 1: outpower anyone, and she's got it and she's like the
Speaker 1: Queen Bee and this and that. So when you see
Speaker 1: her kind of like falling off that which is kind
Speaker 1: of not nice to see because also get a grip, Blair,
Speaker 1: let's figure it out, like don't go back if you
Speaker 1: desperate and try to do this, Like you, we've moved
Speaker 1: on from you at that school, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: We don't want freshman in high school or college going
Speaker 1: back to try to like have these kids follow you
Speaker 1: like stop. And I also remember, like I mean, I
Speaker 1: remember that feeling from high school times that there was
Speaker 1: always that one or two of those kids who really
Speaker 1: had a great experience in high school who would then
Speaker 1: hang around, you know, they'd be like in their twenties
Speaker 1: and still coming to high school parties, and you were like,
Speaker 1: just move forward in life, you know. So it's like
Speaker 1: the idea that you can kind of peak in high
Speaker 1: school or that's where you feel most comfortable. You kind
Speaker 1: of really don't want that for Blair. And it's nice that,
Speaker 1: you know, Chuck and even Derota has a line of like,
Speaker 1: you know, Chuck and I agree, like you know, we're
Speaker 1: of the opinion and Blair's like shut up, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's like everybody can see that she's not you know,
Speaker 1: she's she's losing her way and so it's sad to
Speaker 1: watch her go down that road, and it's nice that
Speaker 1: they kind of rescue her. And Chuck does it with
Speaker 1: basically with like tough love because he ends up, yeah,
Speaker 1: undercutting her and kind of embarrassing her by going to
Speaker 1: this event with Jenny and you know it's Jenny, but
Speaker 1: he also knows how to do that to her, right,
Speaker 1: you have to. It's like when I mean, that's the
Speaker 1: thing with her, it's like you have to be you know,
Speaker 1: a little bit dramatic when you deal with Blair. So
Speaker 1: they you know, so they do. But you know, it's
Speaker 1: I think it's a very relatable story to for this
Speaker 1: idea that you know, she can't find her footing at
Speaker 1: ny U. So this is what the third episode, fourth
Speaker 1: episode of this season and she is not comfortable yet,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's that I think is very relatable
Speaker 1: because it takes agree, yeah, and it's a new environment,
Speaker 1: it's it's new people, it's different personality. She's really used
Speaker 1: to her same thing for so many years that you know,
Speaker 1: being the queen Bee everyone following her, you know. But
Speaker 1: I also think it's there's something in this where I
Speaker 1: hopefully we see in the next little bit that she
Speaker 1: learns that maybe you you have to shift a little bit, yeah,
Speaker 1: that you have to evolve because here's the other thing.
Speaker 1: People aren't falling for her ship now, do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Exactly, So hopefully we see that she
Speaker 1: kind of learns from that and understands like, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: going to have to find what other people like to
Speaker 1: do sometimes not always what I want to do, and
Speaker 1: value other people's We both know Blair has a big heart,
Speaker 1: and she really is. She's funny, and she can be
Speaker 1: a great friend and a great person. It's just she's
Speaker 1: a little selfish. She's very stubborn, and she it's like
Speaker 1: her way or no way, you know. So she's gonna
Speaker 1: have to do some shifting because people aren't going to
Speaker 1: be bossed around right now. So exactly, Sorry, Blair. My
Speaker 1: philosophy has always been the rejection. Sometimes it's an invitation
Speaker 1: to evolve or to kind of look and we're so
Speaker 1: it's like, sometimes rejection is just rejection and you have
Speaker 1: to power through. Sometimes rejection is an invitation needed to say,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe the universe is showing me something about
Speaker 1: myself here. So I think that for her, you know,
Speaker 1: the personal growth that's required in order to make new
Speaker 1: connections and make new friends, and and it's interesting to
Speaker 1: see her in this scene and have the silly scene
Speaker 1: with the what do they call themselves, the Masters of
Speaker 1: the Universe. Yeah, you know, even though she's being totally
Speaker 1: bossy and mean to them right up the gat, it's like,
Speaker 1: there's still there is room for her. And I guess
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is that there is room for her
Speaker 1: at n y U. It's just her finding you know,
Speaker 1: finding connections totally. Well that's so that's the other thing.
Speaker 1: So Lily comes back from being with CC. So I
Speaker 1: guess CDC is feeling better now, she says, which thankfully
Speaker 1: because everybody loves C. I mean, she's you know, or
Speaker 1: loves to hate Cecy. Right, And meanwhile, Kelly's coming back,
Speaker 1: who just had a baby, So let's keep that in mind,
Speaker 1: Like she has a fresh little baby. That's why she's
Speaker 1: probably in the dressing room, you know, probably in her
Speaker 1: trailer for sure. So she's back, and so she basically
Speaker 1: the first thing she does is surprise the Rufus and Serena,
Speaker 1: and she's like, why are you here and not at
Speaker 1: um not at school. Yeah, so immediately Serena has to
Speaker 1: deal with coming clean. Of course, Lily is disappointed. There's
Speaker 1: a really nice scene here where Serena and Rufus practice
Speaker 1: telling Lily, which is really funny, where LUs Rufus is
Speaker 1: doing like a Lily impression, which I really got a
Speaker 1: kick out. I like that. Serena's like, she wouldn't do that,
Speaker 1: she would turn her head this way, wouldn't hit the table.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, Serena, Yeah, that was very cute. But
Speaker 1: it's like so basically they have to tell Lily, and
Speaker 1: Lily is immediately disappointed and of course convinced that she
Speaker 1: will be able to turn the tide on this um.
Speaker 1: But but Serena's solution is to say, I'm not just
Speaker 1: gonna gallopant around New York. I'm going to get a job,
Speaker 1: you know, which I think Lily finds a little bit laughable.
Speaker 1: And then pretty quickly she has a serendipitous run in
Speaker 1: with Olivia's publicist. Well, she's actually at the same cafe
Speaker 1: with Olivia and Olivia's publicists, bunch of paparazzi are outside.
Speaker 1: When Olivia gets up, She's like, oh my gosh, what
Speaker 1: do I do? And then Serena kind of overhears and
Speaker 1: then turns and says, hey, go out through the kitchen,
Speaker 1: turn left, but she literally gives us a whole explanation
Speaker 1: of how to get out of there. And then Olivia
Speaker 1: knows that it's Serena. Wait, you're Serena ander Woodson, right,
Speaker 1: and she's like yeah, so anyways, yes, Olivia leaves and
Speaker 1: then her publicist, Casey, is like, oh, I think you
Speaker 1: would work well, do well in this world, right, So
Speaker 1: it's like she basically sees an opportunity to, you know,
Speaker 1: take advantage of Serena's life experiences and who she is
Speaker 1: and brings her into the publicity world. And in this case,
Speaker 1: there's a premiere that night, so she ends up a
Speaker 1: signing Serena too. The Tyra Banks's character who was named
Speaker 1: what is her name? Ursula, and this is Olivia's co
Speaker 1: star in the movie that is premiering this and they
Speaker 1: tell much like so that she's like this really kind
Speaker 1: of dramatic, hard to deal with person. In the first scene,
Speaker 1: she comes out throwing dresses and you know, she's it
Speaker 1: looks like she's going to be a handful. But then
Speaker 1: very quickly we see that Serena and uh Ursula have gone,
Speaker 1: have made a connection, They've had a little slumber party,
Speaker 1: they've basically so immediately we see that Ursula is just
Speaker 1: a wonderful, complicated person who is an actor, who is
Speaker 1: you know, nervous about this big premiere, that it's a
Speaker 1: big deal. So immediately that character becomes humanized. And I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know about you. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: ever watched Tyra banks is other stuff, but you know,
Speaker 1: she has such a big personality, but also in this
Speaker 1: character plays a very vulnerable and you know, sweet hearted
Speaker 1: a character that I really related to him, was rooting
Speaker 1: for here. So yeah, well she's so fierce and so
Speaker 1: beautiful and been around for so long and like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, so when you do see this like softness,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, you're kind of like taking it back
Speaker 1: a little bit, but you love it. I almost don't know,
Speaker 1: she looks almost better now than she did early on.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, she never just like she never changed
Speaker 1: beautiful always. Yeah, maybe that's also with her like heart
Speaker 1: and her good energy and stuff also comes through, because
Speaker 1: when someone's really sweet and wonderful, you know, you shine
Speaker 1: in a different light. I feel like, you know, I
Speaker 1: definitely agree with that, and she has in this character.
Speaker 1: There's like, you know, she's been working really hard for
Speaker 1: something and that she's on the precipice of a big
Speaker 1: success and it just has to you know, she just
Speaker 1: has to kind of step into that door of opportunity
Speaker 1: and everything in this is relying on this big high
Speaker 1: stakes scene that she got to play as an actor
Speaker 1: in the movie. It's it's like you kind of start
Speaker 1: rooting for her immediately, and um, and you know, also,
Speaker 1: and I think it's interesting to see Tyra Banks in
Speaker 1: that role because as as long as I can remember,
Speaker 1: she has been a supermodel and a superstar. So for
Speaker 1: her to portray someone at the beginning of their career
Speaker 1: goes to so that she has some pretty solid acting
Speaker 1: chops because she delivers it really beautifully. So yeah, and
Speaker 1: you're rooting for her, and then yeah, I thought she
Speaker 1: brought her a game for sure. And this this whole
Speaker 1: storyline was like interesting to me too, because I'm like, wait,
Speaker 1: so Casey's here with Olivia Ursula is here with Serena,
Speaker 1: and then it's also like Serena at the end it
Speaker 1: is like, you know, is like I'm not going to
Speaker 1: work at her company unless she hires you, because Casey
Speaker 1: ends up telling Serena that they're not going to work
Speaker 1: together because of the way Ursula stormed out. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: it's another example of like Lily is always right because
Speaker 1: Lily comes in and it's like, look, she's using you
Speaker 1: for your you know who you are, your your notoriety,
Speaker 1: and then it turns out that she's right because Casey
Speaker 1: wants her to talk Ursula into embarrassing herself for for
Speaker 1: press like press, Yeah, which doesn't make a tremendous a
Speaker 1: lot of amount of sound because publicists are usually working
Speaker 1: on behalf of the actors they represent, But whatever um
Speaker 1: Right in the end, it's like basically Serena has to
Speaker 1: face her either acting out of her own integrity or
Speaker 1: keeping the job, and she chooses integrity and friendships so
Speaker 1: to protect Ursula totally. And that's where I think the
Speaker 1: way they write these characters are Serena is where you
Speaker 1: keep falling in love with Serena the whole time. You're like, wow,
Speaker 1: you just love her because not only like then does
Speaker 1: she get the job taken from her then you know,
Speaker 1: the main client, So she's not going to stay at
Speaker 1: the company unless Serena stays there. That's just such a
Speaker 1: Serena moment in Gossip Girl. Like I always think things
Speaker 1: like this happened to her, like it's the craziest thing.
Speaker 1: But then she like saves the world or saves the
Speaker 1: day and saves that, you know, and I'm always like,
Speaker 1: this is so funny, like to Serena thing. That is
Speaker 1: such a Serena thing. Absolutely it is. But I also
Speaker 1: do like that she didn't lose her integrity and she
Speaker 1: did do the right thing, like, you know, I really do.
Speaker 1: I like that she keeps getting tested and usually she
Speaker 1: comes out on top in terms of like, yeah, when
Speaker 1: she's able to make that choice, you know, she she'll
Speaker 1: make the choice for the better ment of the other person,
Speaker 1: which is nice. And I think even though she's not
Speaker 1: in college, it's like we're we're still we're still going
Speaker 1: to see personal growth, you know, because she's still on
Speaker 1: her journey, even though it's not the journey that Lily
Speaker 1: wants for her, right right, What did you think of that, Like,
Speaker 1: it's Lily wanting Serena so badly to go to Brown
Speaker 1: because she she's doesn't want Serena to make the same
Speaker 1: mistake she did. Like there's something really that Serena is
Speaker 1: not feeling to go to Brown now? Is it because
Speaker 1: she's scared? Is I don't know, but I'm wondering why.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like it's so pushed, Like why is
Speaker 1: Lily need her to go, like if she really doesn't
Speaker 1: want to do. Yeah, I know it's all situational and
Speaker 1: everyone's beliefs are different. I just sometimes watching this, I'm like,
Speaker 1: maybe just take six months to figure something out because
Speaker 1: colleges still be there. Well, why is it so important
Speaker 1: for Lily? I mean, some people don't need to go
Speaker 1: to college at all. Some people taking that gap makes
Speaker 1: a lot of sense for them. And so I think
Speaker 1: that with Lily, we see that overbearing parenting style and
Speaker 1: it's always comes into question. But in a way, I
Speaker 1: think she's a little bit right because what Serena isn't
Speaker 1: doing and she isn't facing what actually is an issue,
Speaker 1: So she's seems to be chasing this and that was
Speaker 1: my father, right, Yeah, So I think it's like she
Speaker 1: wants she wants to find her dad, and and the
Speaker 1: failure to do that in this previous summer I think
Speaker 1: sent her on a spiral. So she actually isn't in
Speaker 1: a healthy place. She's not in a place of like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I need a year off for self discovery.
Speaker 1: I think she's like a little bit lost. So I
Speaker 1: think Lily has the right maternal instinct, which is to say,
Speaker 1: you need some guidance now. But pushing her to Brown
Speaker 1: maybe isn't the thing. But if Serena was really being
Speaker 1: honest with everyone, then maybe they could all work together
Speaker 1: to make sure that her next year of life is fantastic. Right.
Speaker 1: So I feel like right now there's a part of
Speaker 1: that where it's like it's very complicated because there's a
Speaker 1: part of I'm sure for Serena with the whole father situation,
Speaker 1: that's a lot to digest that there's someone who is
Speaker 1: making an effort not to see you or not to
Speaker 1: know you. It's a very big, hard issue. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then there's like adding everything else, and maybe that's where
Speaker 1: Lily's coming from. I don't know. It's like you said,
Speaker 1: I can see both. Lily really need could ask herself
Speaker 1: to like why is it so important that my daughter
Speaker 1: go to Brown? Is it just cash A? Is it
Speaker 1: just is it that she doesn't she wants a better
Speaker 1: life for Serena than she had for herself. Or is
Speaker 1: it that that feels good to her because it's something
Speaker 1: she can brag about. So I feel like those questions
Speaker 1: always come into play with her too. So You're like,
Speaker 1: what is it? Because that's why for me, it's like
Speaker 1: what is yes, Like that's my question. I'm like, Lily,
Speaker 1: why is it so important to you and Serena? Why
Speaker 1: why do you not want to? For there? Was she
Speaker 1: was pumped about Brown for a minute, you know, And
Speaker 1: it is, you know, interesting because she's the only character
Speaker 1: who would be leaving. So yeah, it's scary. I mean,
Speaker 1: I left my town, you know, and I grew up
Speaker 1: an in Anna and I went to college in New York.
Speaker 1: I remember that moment of being like, by everyone and
Speaker 1: everything I've ever known, I'm gonna go live my life
Speaker 1: over here. So you know, it's crazy because I actually
Speaker 1: think it's really interesting that we ask young people at
Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen years old to make that huge move because
Speaker 1: it is especially in the United States, people tend to
Speaker 1: go to school far from home, whereas like you know,
Speaker 1: in other you know, my Polish family, they all stay
Speaker 1: in the town where they are to go to school.
Speaker 1: And so I feel like that idea of really leaving
Speaker 1: the fold and saying I'm gonna start my new life
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go here, and you know, it's a scary,
Speaker 1: scary time of life. And um, so I think it's
Speaker 1: part of what's so great about letting these characters grow
Speaker 1: up is that we get to see them experience this
Speaker 1: the kind of the scary part of the transition to Yeah,
Speaker 1: but there's also probably a lot of like shocking things.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't really know the roommate that you're
Speaker 1: going to have, Like, there's just so many things, and
Speaker 1: but also can be super fun and you and you
Speaker 1: probably really you also make some you know at that
Speaker 1: point to make some your best friends for your life too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's the great thing about college is that those
Speaker 1: friendships sometimes are found in unlikely places. So you know,
Speaker 1: and you together that would never ever otherwise maybe me
Speaker 1: or be friends. Yeah, And there's a really fantastic scene
Speaker 1: when so basically we go to the premiere, Dan realizes
Speaker 1: that Olivia is Olivia and not Kate, and you know,
Speaker 1: they kind of had I knew that before, but didn't
Speaker 1: know was to that extreme because remember she's like, well,
Speaker 1: my life is like you know, I don't stand yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's like, well I dated someone who was kind
Speaker 1: of in the spotlighter. I don't remember what he s
Speaker 1: talking about. And he was talking about Serena, right, Serena.
Speaker 1: I mean who else is dand dating? Like I guess
Speaker 1: what's his name, Pete Davidson, who's dating rights? Right? So Dan.
Speaker 1: So then he gets to the premiere and he realizes like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is like really wild what it is. But he
Speaker 1: also said I thought you were working. You could have
Speaker 1: just told me, like you didn't want to hang out
Speaker 1: to a liberal says that, and she's like, well what
Speaker 1: I am? You know, because he's not really because there's
Speaker 1: a mirror movie and she's the star, and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: her doing the red carpet and interviews is work, which
Speaker 1: is funny because I do feel like people if you're
Speaker 1: not in our industry, Like sometimes Brad has come to
Speaker 1: stuff with me and he's like, this is your work,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well you probably yeah, like get you know,
Speaker 1: doing a carpet or doing the interviews are going to
Speaker 1: be compressed, and I'm like, well, yeah, it's all part
Speaker 1: of it. And sometimes it looks more glamorous than it is,
Speaker 1: even though it can all be fun at times or
Speaker 1: tiring at times, you know, but it's like people parties, right,
Speaker 1: but sometimes people only see the like stepping on the
Speaker 1: carpet and people yelling your name like they're not understanding
Speaker 1: like you know, getting up at four in the morning
Speaker 1: to do the press and getting on flights and all
Speaker 1: the things, you know what I mean. And I mean,
Speaker 1: just on that topic. It's like I always think it's
Speaker 1: interesting to see, like you know, these stories of like
Speaker 1: movie premieres and and you know, when you actually start
Speaker 1: breaking down, like what it means is to be one
Speaker 1: of those stars on the carpet, Like the idea that
Speaker 1: everybody's looking at you and you have a persona to maintain,
Speaker 1: you have a way you have to comport yourself. That's
Speaker 1: a really stressful thing that a lot of people. It's
Speaker 1: a really big point of discomfort for people public speaking,
Speaker 1: you know, getting out in front of people, you know,
Speaker 1: social anxiety. So I feel like, you know, nine of
Speaker 1: the world can understand that one of the hardest things
Speaker 1: to do is to be yourself and to present yourself,
Speaker 1: you know, to people who are staring at you. So
Speaker 1: it does work in that regard. And yeah, and you
Speaker 1: can mess up, you can say the wrong thing, you
Speaker 1: can fall down, like I mean, you know these it's
Speaker 1: of course, it's not brain surgery, and there are every
Speaker 1: job has its difficulties in its um pros and cons.
Speaker 1: But this idea of having to be a certain person
Speaker 1: um can be hard. And it makes sense in this
Speaker 1: episode that she's really struggling with that and she wants
Speaker 1: to escape it. She wants to have you know, just
Speaker 1: just Olivia time, just be herself and go to school
Speaker 1: and so yeah, and part of it too, on top
Speaker 1: of all that trying to be yourself and and you know,
Speaker 1: do well getting into these roles like doing her job,
Speaker 1: it's also like you're under a magnifying glass and people
Speaker 1: are criticizing your work and what you're wearing and all
Speaker 1: the things, you know, like and even when we were
Speaker 1: on on this show coming out, you know, like all
Speaker 1: the reviews and what the parents were saying and all
Speaker 1: the things. And that's why sometimes people be like, how
Speaker 1: do you do it? I'm like, I don't read it all,
Speaker 1: like if I did, I would drive myself crazy. And
Speaker 1: Olivia she now gets to n y U and sees
Speaker 1: all these people that are her age, that can just
Speaker 1: walk and get a coffee and not be bothered or
Speaker 1: go do this, and she's got to worry about her
Speaker 1: premieres and people judging her and all the people on
Speaker 1: her floor signing up an n d A right, and
Speaker 1: she's so embarrassed about it. Yeah. Yeah, so that's like
Speaker 1: to to try to be normal and then have your
Speaker 1: life be that way. But but then you're also seeing
Speaker 1: it all in front of you. That's gotta be tough.
Speaker 1: But then again, if you would probably ask Olivia, would
Speaker 1: you go back and not take that first all that
Speaker 1: blew you up? She'd probably say no, I would have
Speaker 1: taken it, so of course, right. But but there's a
Speaker 1: really good point made in this episode, which I think
Speaker 1: is like this idea that her representative, Casey, is doing
Speaker 1: all this stuff on her behalf, and that when she
Speaker 1: realizes that her representative has sent non disclosure agreements to
Speaker 1: all of her floormates, she's embarrassed and like you know,
Speaker 1: when you are in the public eyeor, when you're when
Speaker 1: you're an actor or a performer, and you have team
Speaker 1: a team and people representing you. It's like a lot
Speaker 1: of times you don't get to speak for yourself. So uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I think we hear all these stories about
Speaker 1: celebrities being like I only like green Eminem's or whatever,
Speaker 1: and you're like, you never even know if that's true
Speaker 1: because everything is always funneled through all these other people
Speaker 1: who are in the mix, you know. So I think
Speaker 1: that's an interesting storyline here. I like that moment because
Speaker 1: we don't see that very often. Is the fact that
Speaker 1: she's like, oh man, Casey, Casey, Casey is blowing up
Speaker 1: my effort of being cool and making real connections here.
Speaker 1: So kind of yeah, she's like, I don't want these
Speaker 1: girls to hate me anymore, like now they're you know,
Speaker 1: and you know I've seen both. Yeah, our industry is
Speaker 1: very um like fickle with that kind of stuff because
Speaker 1: it's like if you say, okay, she just wants a
Speaker 1: cold ice water, that doesn't mean that this person is
Speaker 1: a diva. She just wants maybe that's just a nine
Speaker 1: hour flight right right, or maybe she did an ascro one.
Speaker 1: So there's different things. And then there's you know, and
Speaker 1: we also know that there are obviously some diva's out
Speaker 1: there that you know, do want only blue eminem's. But
Speaker 1: of course there's nothing wrong with that. Maybe that's something
Speaker 1: where they're like, hey, I can only perform this way
Speaker 1: because that's what I write the fuel of the Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's just funny. It's all obviously again situational, but um,
Speaker 1: I do like that you see that in this where
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, you know, Casey's like kind of being
Speaker 1: selfish because she wants her to have this press because
Speaker 1: you know, that's what she gets paid for, but willing
Speaker 1: to like lose her integrity and obviously a real minute
Speaker 1: later too, Yeah, because like we see later with Ursula
Speaker 1: that you know, she's she's a little bit of a
Speaker 1: schemer that Casey and I don't think she probably doesn't represent. Uh,
Speaker 1: most publicists come at their work in a different, very
Speaker 1: different way. But in the terms of the Gossip Girl,
Speaker 1: I don't think, you know, having this time, there's always
Speaker 1: that person who has malevolent intentions that's like stirring the
Speaker 1: pot and testing all of our characters, right, So totally,
Speaker 1: But you know, this premiere that we see here is
Speaker 1: also funny because they have. They went ahead and shot
Speaker 1: like a scene of the movie because we watched like
Speaker 1: a little short scene of the movie. So That'svie was
Speaker 1: very funny because I was like, are they going to
Speaker 1: go and shoot this like, you know, world War two drama?
Speaker 1: And they did. They did like a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was cute. And then how about at the end
Speaker 1: of the premiere, So Blair has the sleepover and these
Speaker 1: girls from concerts are there and she's about to tell
Speaker 1: the story of how she got Chuck to tell her
Speaker 1: that he loved her, and then there's a blast that
Speaker 1: goes out and one of the girls are like, you know,
Speaker 1: there's a gossip girl blast, and Chuck is seen at
Speaker 1: a premiere of Olivia Burke's new movie with Jenny Humphrey.
Speaker 1: So dunt dunda. So that happens, and then we get
Speaker 1: to the premiere and Blair shows up, and then a
Speaker 1: photographer asked Blair to stop on the carpet as she's
Speaker 1: leaving and says, wait, can I take your photo? And
Speaker 1: Blair goes to me and he goes, yeah, you're Blair Waldorf,
Speaker 1: aren't you. And in that moment for me, I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh. She needed that she's going through something
Speaker 1: right now, she has her insecurities, maybe this will give
Speaker 1: her a boost of like that she confidence and validation. Yes,
Speaker 1: And I know that that sounds like really lame, like
Speaker 1: you need some photographer to like, but maybe it was
Speaker 1: that little thing to be like I am being seen
Speaker 1: and I am here and I am Blair Waldorf. And
Speaker 1: I felt for Blair in that moment because I saw
Speaker 1: even the way Layton played it like okay, she like
Speaker 1: there was a little glimpse of hope, and Park came
Speaker 1: back a little bit and then you know, we find
Speaker 1: that we go to and I'm like, you know, the
Speaker 1: guy's leaning into the limo and Chucks like, you know,
Speaker 1: we're done here. But the photographer says, why did you
Speaker 1: want me to take a picture of that girl? And
Speaker 1: he says something like I always knew she could fly,
Speaker 1: but we needed a magic feather like yes. So then
Speaker 1: when I saw he was doing doing that, I also
Speaker 1: love that because what what Blair and Chuck do is
Speaker 1: they see the strength in each other and they see
Speaker 1: when someone's really like where they need to be lifted
Speaker 1: up again, and they lift each other up in the
Speaker 1: best way. It was like what we saw in the
Speaker 1: last episode about the photo at the auction, you know,
Speaker 1: like she was giving up the invitation so that he
Speaker 1: could have the photo. And then you know, now we're
Speaker 1: finding out that like he was doing that to just
Speaker 1: pick her up and give her that confidence again. And
Speaker 1: I thought, that's what I really like about those two.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's and it's great because it was like
Speaker 1: behind the scenes stuff, so it's like, you know, he's
Speaker 1: not going to get the credit for that, it's just
Speaker 1: that he really needed. He needed to get her out
Speaker 1: of that phone. He needed to get her out of
Speaker 1: that slumber party totally. And and and it was like
Speaker 1: the way it all went down, like going to the
Speaker 1: premiere with Jenny, to get her attention, to get her
Speaker 1: to come there, to get the photo taken of her,
Speaker 1: to like the chess game that he played to get
Speaker 1: her there, to make that all go down, to make
Speaker 1: her feel good for for a minute again, was just like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh definitely. I wanted to ask you because
Speaker 1: we're talking about premiere so much, and I know you
Speaker 1: have a movie premiering right now, and I'm wondering, like,
Speaker 1: how exciting is it to know that some work that
Speaker 1: you made is coming into people's televisions and homes or
Speaker 1: is it a thrilling part of the process or a
Speaker 1: scary part. I'm excited because it's my first Christmas movie,
Speaker 1: holiday movie, and that's my favorite time of the year.
Speaker 1: It's and I just had a really fun time making it.
Speaker 1: My whole family, like Brad, Lexi and Bowie all got
Speaker 1: to be with me in Canada for um why I
Speaker 1: was filming. So I just had a really good experience
Speaker 1: with everyone on it. And I'm just so pumped that
Speaker 1: were at that time of year and that I got
Speaker 1: to do this like fun, feel good movie, right, you know.
Speaker 1: So watching the premiere in this episode and watching sort
Speaker 1: of the pain that Ursula goes through because her big
Speaker 1: scene is cut, but Serena says something interesting to her,
Speaker 1: which she says, you know, you're an artist, you're an actor,
Speaker 1: Like you should be gracious and um, you know, just
Speaker 1: move forward, and like I feel like it's you know,
Speaker 1: in this life of you know, seeking a life and
Speaker 1: a career in the arts, it's like sometimes you have
Speaker 1: to you do your work, you put your heart into it,
Speaker 1: and then you just let it fly. And sometimes it's
Speaker 1: sometimes the result is not what you expected, but you
Speaker 1: know it's like, uh, you know, Serena was wise. Serena
Speaker 1: sometimes very wise. No, Serena is wise a lot, and
Speaker 1: she's that's why sometimes I like she seems just older
Speaker 1: than everyone because she's giving advice as that she's been
Speaker 1: through things that like she's thirty five. But um, it
Speaker 1: is true. And if we don't do that as artists
Speaker 1: and actors, we could drive ourselves absolutely crazy and it
Speaker 1: can can affect our work on on such a level.
Speaker 1: But you know, again, you just see a lot of
Speaker 1: people see the finished work. There's a like a photo
Speaker 1: out there of a ballerina's foot and it's all cut
Speaker 1: up and tore up, and there's like scrapes and she's
Speaker 1: it's the on their toes and it just looks gnarly.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh my god. And then it shows one
Speaker 1: of just the ballerina slipper looking perfect. You only see
Speaker 1: the finished products. So everything that's going into this like
Speaker 1: beautiful thing that's done. You didn't see the blood, sweat
Speaker 1: and tears. It's like the tip of a glacier, right,
Speaker 1: Yeah I heard that. Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, And
Speaker 1: it's like they're so right. So it's like in this
Speaker 1: episode two, it's like we see the obviously I'm Hillary's character,
Speaker 1: um Olivia is, you know, she's at work, and then
Speaker 1: that moment of release, like that moment of like taking
Speaker 1: off the l a shoe is is this lovely scene
Speaker 1: that she has back at the dorm with Vanessa where
Speaker 1: they come to they come to sort of become friends.
Speaker 1: I think in that moment that scene was great. And
Speaker 1: I mean, we haven't even talked about this, but I
Speaker 1: know you you knew Hillary before, but like, in creating
Speaker 1: these two characters together, what was it like doing these
Speaker 1: sort of roommates scenes. It was fun. I just think
Speaker 1: the dynamic of Vanessa and Olivia, even in this scene,
Speaker 1: really sets a tone of um, there's like a respect
Speaker 1: there and you can tell they like each other, you know.
Speaker 1: Vanessa says, she tells her she's not going to look
Speaker 1: at her as a celebrity, that she's just her roommate.
Speaker 1: And Olivia admits that coming to m YU made her
Speaker 1: want to be normal, but she's also saying she can't
Speaker 1: just be She has to show both or have both sides,
Speaker 1: Like she can't want to be normal and let go
Speaker 1: of the whole movie star Olivia Burke that that's part
Speaker 1: of but she liked that. Here's where Vanessa, I think,
Speaker 1: you know, triggers her like, oh call Scott, but yeah
Speaker 1: that scene. Um. I always liked working with Hillary. She's
Speaker 1: she's so professional, she's so great. She's been around for
Speaker 1: so long, so she really knows a set knows, you know,
Speaker 1: and I really feel like she brought Olivia to life
Speaker 1: in a really great way. And it was really something
Speaker 1: different for the show. Obviously Net Network, you know, we're
Speaker 1: not in the high schooling. Everybody was like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's always thrilling when the show is like gets his
Speaker 1: legs and then starts going and become popular and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you get these really cool, high
Speaker 1: profile guest stars to come in and people are excited
Speaker 1: to see them. So like that was a big one
Speaker 1: and really exciting. And yeah, and it was just funny too,
Speaker 1: Like at the premiere she's like, well, Vanessa says, I
Speaker 1: gotta find Olivia and he's like, you know Olivia. Like
Speaker 1: it was funny because again, it was one of those
Speaker 1: moments where I was like, yeah, I know Olivia, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's my roommate. Yeah. It was the one person who
Speaker 1: wasn't you know in this premiere storyline was Jenny because
Speaker 1: I mean, well Jenny was at the premiere with um
Speaker 1: but her, but the big drama with her was sort
Speaker 1: of happening, you know, back at Constance in a way.
Speaker 1: And so at the end of the episode we realize
Speaker 1: that her minions are back right um and she's like
Speaker 1: meet me at the met Yes, like yogurt ready for me,
Speaker 1: which was fantastic moment. And so tact we go full
Speaker 1: circle with her. So we start the episode with her,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of has off the headband, and then
Speaker 1: she goes and tries to makes this beautiful speech about
Speaker 1: all this egalitarian stuff. We're gonna have no Queen Bee,
Speaker 1: It's gonna be great. Everyone's everyone's popular, and then goes
Speaker 1: through the gamut with Blair and then comes out the
Speaker 1: other end as the classic you know, dictator, bossy Queen
Speaker 1: be Allah Miss Blair. So it's kind of funny because
Speaker 1: we come all the way around. So we land with
Speaker 1: Jenny's back and Jenny Gina is out there in the
Speaker 1: world somewhere causing some sort of turmoil with Scott. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Vanessa calls Scott and uh, it's just kind of saying, hey,
Speaker 1: thinking about you, and he's like, I can't talk long.
Speaker 1: I have to take this, and then you hear afterwards
Speaker 1: he answers a call from Georgina and he agrees to
Speaker 1: go and meet her at a restaurant a block away.
Speaker 1: So now you know that she's she's in Boston, Like
Speaker 1: that's where he went back. That's why we found out
Speaker 1: last episode. Yeah, Georgina made what are you doing now, girl? Like,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? And also she's missing classes? Hello,
Speaker 1: she supposed to be. Yeah, we can't all around. Yeah
Speaker 1: we have we're supposed to go to class. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's fun. I mean, we have a lot of Yeah.
Speaker 1: So by the end of this episode two, I think
Speaker 1: we're done with Serena's PR career, publicity career. Yeah. I like,
Speaker 1: I liked it because I understand what we had to
Speaker 1: do for that for this episode, but I was also
Speaker 1: just not feeling it. This isn't like a Serena situation
Speaker 1: for me, you know, I agree, And it was weird,
Speaker 1: you know because, yeah, because she's such a glamorous character
Speaker 1: and she's sort of the center of attention. Watching her
Speaker 1: uh be even that's part of it. Yeah, watching her
Speaker 1: be on the other side of the camera. You know,
Speaker 1: it just felt weird because to me, you know, it's
Speaker 1: like she just has such a star quality as a character. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Even her standing next to Tyra though, and I mean
Speaker 1: this in the best way, because they're both beautiful and studding.
Speaker 1: She's just doesn't look like she just graduated from high
Speaker 1: school next to this beautiful supermodel. I'm like, you both
Speaker 1: look like your supermodels, and like, you know, what's her
Speaker 1: name said at one point, says, you know, don't listen
Speaker 1: to her. She's a teenager. And I'm like, she doesn't
Speaker 1: look like, yeah, it looks like a fantastic supermodel movie star,
Speaker 1: so I guess. Yeah, so it's yeah, you're right, those
Speaker 1: are things are funny. But but I think it's like
Speaker 1: we have Lily back on, you know, so we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens there. We have um, you know, uh, Olivia
Speaker 1: moved in and and Blair continues her thing at m
Speaker 1: I U. Now there's a couple more I feel like
Speaker 1: minions come in now from what I was saying earlier,
Speaker 1: and now I feel like she has found a couple
Speaker 1: of girls. Then there's a garment bag waiting for her. There.
Speaker 1: They they're like, look behind you. She gets this garment bag.
Speaker 1: So maybe Blair did find her people that are gonna
Speaker 1: make Blair be able to do her thing because she
Speaker 1: was falling. Blair was falling. She's like, you know, if
Speaker 1: she's not bossing people around, I don't really know she
Speaker 1: knows what to do right, right, So yeah, we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens. But it is really interesting because we never
Speaker 1: talked about things. When when Chuck gets there and Deronda
Speaker 1: comes out holding, she says she's having a cram session
Speaker 1: like a studying session. This is earlier in the episode
Speaker 1: and I meant to touch on this before. And then
Speaker 1: she tells Chuck that because she doesn't want Chuck to
Speaker 1: know that she's having a slumber party. Yeah, it's embarrassing
Speaker 1: with the girls from concerts because it is embarrassing, like,
Speaker 1: come on, Blair. And then Derota comes out holding, She's like,
Speaker 1: what do you want me to do with What was
Speaker 1: it like for the for the betting or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like a bunch of silk betting. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: it's like you know, and Chuck immediately is like, it's
Speaker 1: the wall door slumber party, which is really funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I love a de rote A moment. There was
Speaker 1: also a good de rot A moment. When I was
Speaker 1: watching the episode. My boyfriend was working around near me
Speaker 1: and he glanced over when the Deronda was passing out
Speaker 1: martiniz to high school students, and so we got to
Speaker 1: laugh out of that. Blairs like these martinis are two
Speaker 1: watered down. Um, so you know, I love the Toronto
Speaker 1: is just doing what she has to do. Man, you
Speaker 1: know she's going to make Flair happy. Yeah, whatever you need,
Speaker 1: Blair jin martinis for high school sophomores. But you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: speaking of we talked about this a couple episodes ago.
Speaker 1: I have to touch on this quick because after we
Speaker 1: got off, I went and looked up Vanessa's drink and
Speaker 1: I for some reason, I don't know why I said Jin,
Speaker 1: because if it was gonna be Gin, I would it
Speaker 1: would have been maybe Ceci, who doesn't have a drink
Speaker 1: on the menu I saw, But Ceci was, yeah, entire
Speaker 1: hotel they have drinks on named after the characters, some
Speaker 1: of the characters on the show. But CC was like,
Speaker 1: remember she smells like Gin and Chanelle number five was
Speaker 1: the whole thing about her. So I don't know why
Speaker 1: in my mind and and I went and had it.
Speaker 1: But you did say maybe they switched them. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: definitely anyways, because I had seen different things there. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The one that I saw for Vanessa was a like
Speaker 1: vodka cranberry, like something else, which is something I would
Speaker 1: definitely like if I was in New York and at
Speaker 1: the Empire Hotel, would would try So I don't know, tryer.
Speaker 1: In my mind it was a gin, but Blair was gin,
Speaker 1: which was like it was like satur and bitter. It
Speaker 1: said something, right, I guess it makes sense. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then it's well because gin, well, I mean, she's definitely champagne,
Speaker 1: but if you're making a cocktail, I guess jim makes sense.
Speaker 1: And then in this episode she in fact is drinking
Speaker 1: to martini, so I guess they were on point with
Speaker 1: that maybe. And then Serena's was like champagne and topped
Speaker 1: off a champagne. What was Nate? Oh, I don't remember now,
Speaker 1: but I feel like Nates had to have had like
Speaker 1: a little bit of beer in it, little beer. I
Speaker 1: mean that, Yeah, here we go, Okay. Nates was um
Speaker 1: Saint Germaine sour blackberries. Um Jenny's was white rum mint,
Speaker 1: ruby red grapefruit. Lonely Boy is Brooklyn lagger Maker's mark
Speaker 1: Bourbon uh Chuck Bass is a tad on the small
Speaker 1: and weak side. But for those who like sweeter fruity drinks,
Speaker 1: this Scotch apple and ginger concoction is the way to go.
Speaker 1: Um the XO XO drink is it says, figure me out.
Speaker 1: So that's interesting, probably, Like I like that show and
Speaker 1: what was and what was Geroda? She was a vodka
Speaker 1: like vodka as well? No, yeah, the one when I
Speaker 1: was there, I saw it. It was like a vodka.
Speaker 1: I think it was like a vodka apple juice or
Speaker 1: something like that, Like there was like an apple. There's
Speaker 1: like there's a Polish vodka um called which is like
Speaker 1: has a bison grass a piece of bison grass in it,
Speaker 1: and it's like slightly herb herbal kind of um, it's
Speaker 1: kind of a herbal vo It's very popular and poles.
Speaker 1: I think it was that with like apple juice and something,
Speaker 1: which makes sense because it's like kind of a Polish cocktail.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I feel like, you know, if anybody's
Speaker 1: gonna have a cocktail, its roade. I'm sorry she fell
Speaker 1: off the list, but you know, if anybody's drinking. This
Speaker 1: is like a chapter one. No, it was definitely on
Speaker 1: there and then um, serenas I'm trying to find um
Speaker 1: might tangy easy, knocked back, don't be pulled by the champagne,
Speaker 1: honey and water, and champagne is topped with plenty of
Speaker 1: vodka something vodka can't see. They really know how to
Speaker 1: describe anyways, they are really trying to do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and gray goose hair nectar and white grape juice for Vanessa.
Speaker 1: You know, people ask me all the time, like when
Speaker 1: I meet fans in in in the world, I get
Speaker 1: asked a lot to say um when it comes when
Speaker 1: Gossip Girls revealed and everything. And there's something about vodka
Speaker 1: in the rocks no rocks or something just like rocks,
Speaker 1: something about the So she's definitely drinking, like and I
Speaker 1: remember that they were pouring me like these huge vodkas
Speaker 1: that were like triples um for the same So I
Speaker 1: was like, Doroto was really tying it on because Dorota
Speaker 1: has a lot she's hard working, so she has very
Speaker 1: hard she's got a lot of secrets, works very hard,
Speaker 1: long hours. All right, so should we should we wrap
Speaker 1: it up? Yeah, let's see that. There's a quite a
Speaker 1: quite a lengthy quite today. Yeah. Oh man, who she'll
Speaker 1: read it? Should I do it? Yeah? Go for it. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's the closing Gossiprol quote. If you ask me, we
Speaker 1: go to the movies because we want to see fairy tales.
Speaker 1: A sleeping queen woken by her true love's kiss, a
Speaker 1: princess who puts aside her jewels to make her way
Speaker 1: in the world. Lovers torn apart being brought back together.
Speaker 1: But life isn't a fairy tale, and happy endings are
Speaker 1: few and far between. In life, the young queen becomes
Speaker 1: tyrant and takes her subjects to war. So that's why
Speaker 1: we need movies to remind us that despite it all,
Speaker 1: love can still spring in the most unlikely places, and
Speaker 1: that sometimes even fairy tales can come true. XO XO
Speaker 1: Gossip Girl. Wow, well that's a good lesson. Even fairy
Speaker 1: tales can come true. I love it. Yes, that is
Speaker 1: why we need movies, and that's why we need Gossip
Speaker 1: Girl good to remind us. You know, funny, glamorous, crazy plotlines,
Speaker 1: but you know, it's fun to watch, and I feel
Speaker 1: like we always get something out of it. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: we're go down that and got Olivia's at M y U.
Speaker 1: Serena is not going to Brown. We are not sure
Speaker 1: where what Nate's doing at M y U. Why why
Speaker 1: is he just we've lock of that, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter and we'll see what you know, what what comes.
Speaker 1: And the one thing we know for sure is that
Speaker 1: nobody's really doing any homework. So no one's doing homework.
Speaker 1: This is true. That's like evers version of college totally.
Speaker 1: I know, like there's so much time that you're like
Speaker 1: studying and reading and not getting sleep and they're going
Speaker 1: to premieres, parties and auctions. Without that, it wouldn't be
Speaker 1: gossip Girl. It's true. Well, thank you all for listening,
Speaker 1: stay tuned or we'll see you next week. Um, and
Speaker 1: there's a lot to come. This was an interesting episode
Speaker 1: because it felt like, yeah, there was just a lot
Speaker 1: of new introductions kind of off, not offset, but kind
Speaker 1: of like we weren't following the normal a few of
Speaker 1: the story storylines. I mean, yeah, I left them on
Speaker 1: the back, take a back seat stuff, right. So it's
Speaker 1: a good one. Yeah, yeah, it is good. And I
Speaker 1: also feel like Serena is gonna she She's definitely learned
Speaker 1: something from this situation, Like all of a sudden, I
Speaker 1: think whatever is next for her is going to be
Speaker 1: major for her for Lily because I don't it's not
Speaker 1: going to be brown own because she's fighting it too hard.
Speaker 1: So we'll see. But we will be back next week. Everyone.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thank you. XO XO is produced
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Speaker 1: Our producers are Hannah Harris, Emily Carr, and Kristin Vermilia,
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