1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast. I'm 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Ryan Warmley, joined by Andrew Erickson and Pat fitz Morris. 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: Interesting trio. 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: This was the three of us who did this Starts 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: and since show last year. This year, of course, Erickson 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: was not on the show, but we are bringing him 7 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: back for our Holiday Championship episode week seventeen starts and six. Ericson, 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: how are you doing, buddy? I've done other shows with you, 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: of course, but not this one this year. 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 3: Doing great, celebrating this glorious boxing day the day after 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: Christmas with you, guys. 12 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 4: Couldn't think of anything better. 13 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 2: So Red Rock totally agree. Fits, how are you doing? 14 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: You were telling us a little bit about your Christmas 15 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: here before we started recording. Sounded like some football, some wine. 16 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: What more could you ask for? 17 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 5: Exactly? Food, family, dogs, kids. It was great. It was 18 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 5: a really good time. Hopefully everyone out there had a 19 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 5: great Christmas too. 20 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: Ericson and I have watched all of Stranger Things. We 21 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: will not spoil it for you or the listeners here. 22 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: Fits as we move, I had hated Ericson strategically takes 23 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: a ship from that mug. We can go ahead and 24 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: dive into the show, guys, this is the Fantasy Championship 25 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: here of course, just quickly, because I didn't talk to 26 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: you guys earlier in the week. How many leagues are 27 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: you alive and how many titles are you fighting for? 28 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 6: Here? 29 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 5: Fits seven? Actually seven, seven and zero. Semi final week 30 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 5: it was glorious. I'm worried that's going to boomerang back 31 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 5: on me and it's going to be a terrible finals week. 32 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 5: But so far, really not much blood after the three 33 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 5: game Christmas slates, so. 34 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: That is impressive. 35 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: I had eight teams in the semi finals, just two 36 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: survived to the championship. Now I would call them my 37 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: second and third most important teams. So if I had 38 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: to pick two, it's a pretty good two to pick. 39 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: It's funny going into this week in one of the 40 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: leagues I have Puka in. In one of the leagues, I'm 41 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: facing Puka, and so I feel like, well, I'll probably 42 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: go one in one here because he's going to go 43 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: a long way towards determining this thing. 44 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: Ericson, how about you just one? 45 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 4: And it's the one that I came about the most. 46 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: It's the one that I won last year, the biggest 47 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: money league, and that I'm in so hoping to repeat, 48 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: not off to like the best start because I had 49 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: Jamison Williams that have the Lions defense, so that was solid, 50 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 3: and I did face bon Nicks. So again, the way 51 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: that the slate is set up this Christmas Week is 52 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 3: such a slow burn, right because you have a couple 53 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 3: of games on Thursdays and then a couple of games 54 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: on Saturday, and then Sunday and then Monday Night, like 55 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: the Sunday Night games, the Monday Night games, Falcons, Rams, 56 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 3: forty nine Ers and Bears like a lot of really 57 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: impactful fantasy players. So it's going to come down to 58 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 3: the wire. I think in that final Monday Night game 59 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 3: between I mean the Rams and Falcons b John Robinson, 60 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 3: Drake London. The Rams piece is just it's going to 61 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: be a great finish for a lot of fantasy leagues. 62 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: Obviously it didn't pan out this way due to the 63 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: tragic circumstances with Tamar Hamlin. But it's similar going into 64 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: the weekend to how I felt to the year where 65 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: the Fantasy title game was Monday Night Bill's Bengals, where 66 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: going into that weekend it was like, oh, there's just 67 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 1: so many players here that are going to be really 68 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: impactful in a lot of these leagues. 69 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: Rams Falcons. 70 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: Maybe not quite on that level with the quarterback matchup, 71 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: but it feels similar in terms of just the number 72 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: of really like significant players who are probably still alive 73 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: in a lot of these fantasy title games. Coming on 74 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: Monday night will be kind of fun to sit back 75 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: and wait for that and just kind of see how 76 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: it all plays out. I think like half my starting 77 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: roster in one of the leagues I'm alive and is 78 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: playing in that Monday night game. So definitely won't know 79 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: anything until we get to that game. Reminder for everybody, 80 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: just one last one going into the championship here. All 81 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: of our twenty twenty five consensus rankings and tiers can 82 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: be found at fantasypros dot com slash rankings. And at 83 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: this point we're not talking rest of the season rankings. 84 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: We're not talking looking ahead at anything. 85 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 5: It is. 86 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: You know, look at those weekly rankings. 87 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: They are being updated here still throughout the week, even 88 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: despite the holidays. Guys, we usually have a bit of 89 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: a start or see some of these popular waiver ads. 90 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: Segment. 91 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: I was sitting down to put this together earlier in 92 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: the week. It didn't feel like there were really any 93 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: good options here, with one exception that I'll bring up, 94 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: but for the most part, like you're gonna be playing 95 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: the best players on your team right you're here in 96 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: the Fantasy Championship. There also weren't a ton of obvious, 97 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: like instant starters here. The one that I was maybe 98 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: going to bring up that I won't ask you guys 99 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: about is the Browns backfield. 100 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: It does seem like Dylan Sampson, you. 101 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: Know, has been back at practice, so maybe we won't 102 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: be looking at some of these backup guys. Obviously, keep 103 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: an eye on that throughout the weekend. The one name 104 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: that I did want to ask you about, though, is 105 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: Michael Carter. He has been a starting option at various 106 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: times during the season. He was still under fifty percent 107 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: rostered here coming into this week. You know, he's got 108 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: that starting role for Arizona here in what looks like 109 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: a good matchup. 110 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 2: So ericson, I'll start with you, just Carter. 111 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: Is he somebody that they're interested in starting him in 112 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: in the Fantasy Championship if you haven't eate a running back, Yeah. 113 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 4: I think that he's a solid starter. 114 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 3: He's kind of been solid all year when he's given opportunities. 115 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 4: I don't love that. 116 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: The Cardinals are kind of still embracing this committee, and 117 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 3: they found their new Bam Night with Corey Kiner, who 118 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: was taking snaps at inside the red zone last week 119 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: and this week. According to Coach Speak Index, they talked 120 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 3: about how they love Kiner and how physical he is 121 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 3: as a rusher, so basically the carbon copy of why 122 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,119 Speaker 3: they like using Bam Knight at the goal line. So still, 123 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 3: you can't beat the matchup against the Bengals, one of 124 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 3: the best four running backs. So even if Carter isn't 125 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: seeing seventy eighty percent of the snaps, he should be efficient, 126 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: and he was efficient last week, which hasn't always been 127 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 3: the case with him. So I think he's a solid 128 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: RB two flex play. 129 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: He's RB twenty six in ECR ericson too high two 130 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: lower regis straight. 131 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 5: I think it's a little low. I've got him at 132 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 5: twenty three. I'm starting him in a championship game, and 133 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 5: I think people are maybe a little lower on him 134 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 5: than they should be because he didn't catch any passes 135 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 5: last week, but the week before that he had four 136 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 5: catches for I think thirty eight yards. Ericson mentioned the matchup. 137 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 5: The Bengals have given up I think nineteen hundred and 138 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 5: twenty four yards to running backs, most in the league, 139 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 5: and he just didn't get a lot of rushing volume 140 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 5: last week because the Cardinals were stuck in a negative 141 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 5: game script against the Falcons. They trailed pretty much for 142 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 5: the entirety of that game, so only eleven carries for Carter, 143 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 5: but he was efficient with them. You'd hope that maybe 144 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 5: the Cardinals can keep it a close fight with the 145 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 5: Bengals and maybe we see something closer to fifteen sixteen 146 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 5: carries for Carter this week. But I think we like 147 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 5: that their shootout potential in this game, so we could 148 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 5: see a lot of points in this one. Maybe it 149 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 5: is Kinder getting those short yardage touchdowns, but I still 150 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 5: think that there's a pretty reasonable chance that you get 151 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 5: thirteen fourteen touches minimum for Michael Carter. 152 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: Let's plant our flags on some players here, just kind 153 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 1: of guys, you're going into Championship week with real conviction 154 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: on Ericson, We'll start with you here. 155 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 4: Tony Pollard. 156 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 3: Can't believe that this is the guy that you could 157 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: have faith starting in Week seventeen, out of your fantas 158 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 3: Football Championships. But that's where we're out with Tony Pardon. 159 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 3: He's been on a heater over the last four games, 160 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 3: averaging over twenty touches per game over the last three weeks. 161 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 3: And look, the Titans are playing to put good tape 162 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 3: out there for cam Ward, their next head coach, and 163 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 3: Tony Pollard is trying to get paid. He is very 164 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 3: very close to several different contract incentives and they're trying 165 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 3: to get him to these numbers. 166 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 4: Again. 167 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 3: Last week he had a touchdown wiped off the board. 168 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: He only needs two more touchdowns to hit a contract 169 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: incentive of seven rushing touchdowns on the year. He's fifty 170 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: one yards away from one thousand yards. So some of 171 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: these incentives are not just based on contracts, but it's 172 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 3: based on hitting that one thousand mark. There's a lot 173 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 3: of running backs, a lot of different wide receivers that 174 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: are trying to get to that number. We actually saw 175 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: Quot and sut And hit one thousand yards against the 176 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: Chiefs last night on Thursday night, and Tony Pollard he's 177 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 3: within striking distance of getting to one thousand rushing yards. 178 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 3: He's fifty one yards away, so they've been feeding him 179 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: a ton. They're playing the Saints at home this week, 180 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 3: and the Saints just put Brian Brazi or then put 181 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 3: him on injured reserve, but he's probably gonna miss this game. 182 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 3: And he leads the Saints in terms of defensive snaps 183 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: and run stops across the defensive line this season. 184 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 4: We've talked about this all year long. 185 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: When a defense loses an interior anchor, like a defensive tackle, 186 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 3: you see their run splits drastically. Chant happ point The Browns, 187 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 3: once an elite run defense, they lose Lee Collins and 188 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 3: what happens. They get boat raced by every single runningmick 189 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: that they face. So I think at home, this is 190 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 3: a good spot for Tony Park to continue to be 191 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 3: on his hot streak, gonna get volume, so I think 192 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: he can be a top twenty running back. 193 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: In Week seventeen, he is back to back with Michael 194 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: Carter in ECR. He's one spot ahead. Actually technically both 195 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: they're both outside the top twenty four. They're at twenty 196 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: five and twenty six. Do you agree with Pollard being 197 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: ahead of Carter? 198 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 5: Absolutely? And I've got Pollard running back eighteen. I mean 199 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 5: three straight hundred yard games, and Erickson mentioned the thousand 200 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 5: yard mark. No, the key number here is the eleven 201 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 5: hundred yard mark, because Tony Pollard gets a cool quarter 202 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 5: of a million dollars in a contract bonus. If he 203 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 5: can get to that's one hundred and fifty one yards 204 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 5: over these last two weeks, he'll get that. I think 205 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 5: we do like the matchup for the reasons ericson outline. 206 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 5: So I think he's gonna have a good game this week. 207 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 5: I'm starting him in a championship game as well. 208 00:08:58,600 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 2: We're just going through all your. 209 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 4: For He's got seventeen, A lot of players to talk about. 210 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 5: That's true. 211 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: That's remarkable. Seven for seven in the semi files. 212 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 5: I don't believe that just couldn't have been couldn't have 213 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 5: been more fortunate. I had a lot of opponents collapse 214 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 5: on me last week, which was. 215 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: Very fortunate, very very fun to watch. I'm sure, who 216 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: are you planting your flag on? 217 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 5: Here fits Stefan Diggs and his involvement can be sporadic. 218 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 5: Diggs had nine catches for one hundred and five yards 219 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 5: against the Jets in Week eleven. Then he had three 220 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 5: straight games with fewer than thirty receiving yards before erupting 221 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 5: for nine catches in one hundred and thirty eight yards 222 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 5: against the Ravens last week. Now, Stefan Diggs gets a 223 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 5: rematch against the Jets, and their pass defense has been 224 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 5: getting completely flambayed the last few weeks. Tyler Shock had 225 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 5: three hundred and eight passing yards against them last week. 226 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 5: Shuck and Taysom Hill both had touchdown passes in that game. 227 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 5: A week earlier, Trevor Lawrence had three hundred and thirty 228 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 5: passing yards and five touchdown passes against the Jet. This 229 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 5: defense has already checked out like they are. They're they're 230 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 5: on the field playing, but really in their minds, they're 231 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 5: on a beach in Aruba or Kankun somewhere. Drake May 232 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 5: is gonna absolutely fillay the Jets defense this week, and 233 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 5: Diggs is going to be prominently involved. 234 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: So we got we got file At and Flambey, a 235 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: couple mixing those up there. He's wide receiver twenty four 236 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: in ECR fits just on the back end of a 237 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: wide receiver two range. 238 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: Sounds like you think that's low. 239 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 5: I do think that's slow. Just checking to see where 240 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 5: I have him I believe he's top twenty for me 241 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 5: wide receiver eighteen. 242 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 2: We'll see for you Erickson sixteen because, oh nice Diggs. 243 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 3: The thing that with Diggs were always frustrated with the 244 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 3: route participation in the snaps. But you look at the 245 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 3: Patriots receivers, they're banged up, Like Keisham Bood's probably gonna 246 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 3: play in this game. He is a concussion. Matt Collins 247 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 3: has not been practicing all week either. He with I 248 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 3: believe an abdomen or oblique injury. So they kind of 249 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 3: have to take Digs out of the bubble rap here. 250 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: It's like no, like you have to play seventy eighty 251 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 3: percent of the snaps. The matchup is awesome against the 252 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 3: Jets again chasing these one thousand yard numbers. He is 253 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty one yards away from one thousand yards, 254 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 3: which he hasn't done since Buffalo. So remember he got 255 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 3: hurt last year, he didn't get to finish the season. 256 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 3: Let's get Drake May his first one thousand yard receiver. 257 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 3: I think Diggs is gonna be super motivating this game. 258 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 3: I believe he also has more contract incentives in terms 259 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 3: of receptions, So look, the only thing holding back digs 260 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 3: this year has been just kind of his usage and 261 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 3: the injury early on the year, but with that all 262 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 3: behind him in this particular spot, yeah, I think he's 263 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 3: locked and load. 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I don't hate them. 297 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: I just think that like we go a little, we 298 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: go a little heavy on them. 299 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: In December. 300 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 5: I don't. I think we can dial it down a 301 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 5: bit except for Diehard. 302 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: If Diehard qualifies, I totally agree. It's both the best 303 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: Christmasphy and the best action movie ever made in my opinion, 304 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: So I'll I will not fight you there, FITZI, all right, 305 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: let's go to our start hit player debates here. We 306 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: will start with the running backs as always. How about 307 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: a couple Kenneth's. We got Kenneth Walker versus Kenneth Gainwell. 308 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: They were closer earlier in the week in ECR, they 309 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: have started to spread about a bit. I will pull 310 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: it back up here just to make sure where we're 311 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: at now. We've got Walker at RB twenty four and 312 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: Gainwell has moved up to RB eighteen. So Walker has 313 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: moved down and Gainwell has moved up. So a little 314 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: bit of a gap here. Do you see it that 315 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: way as well? Where game Well is an easy choice. 316 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 3: For you, Yes, I do, and it clearly people have 317 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 3: been listening to the Rank show where we did talk 318 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 3: about ken Walker kind of being I think a little 319 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 3: bit overvalued by the ECR, just based on hey, it't 320 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 3: a monster game and a primetime spot against the Rams. 321 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 3: But he's still got out snapped by Zach Sharbanak Zach 322 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 3: Charbonnez still came in in the red zone and scored 323 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 3: one of their rushing touchdowns at the two point conversion. 324 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 4: That really weird play. 325 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 3: So there's really nothing about Walker's projection that suggests, oh, well, 326 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 3: now this is such a better spot. Again, it's a 327 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 3: good matchup against the Carolina Panthers. It is on the road, 328 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 3: so that you know, sometimes things can go weird in 329 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 3: terms of game script. But I mean in terms of 330 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 3: who has a better role in their respective offense, I 331 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 3: mean it's got to be Kenned Gamewell. He has seven 332 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 3: targets in three straight games. Ken Walker has seven targets 333 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 3: combined in the last three games. They like to use 334 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 3: game ball around the red zone, so I think that 335 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: even he has kind of like that edge there over 336 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 3: ken Walker. Both guys can rip off big plays. And 337 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: Javin Warren is also on the injuryport this week, So 338 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 3: the Steelers are in a really weird situation because if 339 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 3: the Ravens lose to the Packers and Lamar Jackson's not 340 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 3: playing in that game, then the Steelers have nothing to 341 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 3: play for the next two weeks. So does that mean 342 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 3: that they lay down to the Browns. Do they take 343 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 3: off Week eighteen, I would lean towards the ladder there being, hey, 344 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 3: we're gonna rest everybody Week eight team get ready for 345 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 3: the playoffs. But depending on how that game goes against Cleveland, 346 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: if Jalen Warren is kind of nicked up, like okay, 347 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 3: we'll just send down and we'll ride game weell, or 348 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 3: is a scenario where they don't want to play either guy. 349 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 3: So that's kind of the only way that we need 350 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 3: to kind of get You need to stay up to 351 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 3: date with what the Steelers are planning on doing. I 352 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 3: don't think they're going to rest their guys necessarily, just 353 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: because they've gone through the whole process of prepping for 354 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 3: the Browns this week and probably Week eight team where 355 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: they take off. 356 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 4: But that is something to keep in mind with a 357 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 4: lot of Steelers players. 358 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 3: But if they are full go and if the Ravens 359 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 3: beat the Packers, well, Gainwell has just been an absolute monster, 360 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 3: so I would continue to start him. The Browns defense 361 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 3: has been terrible against running backs since they lost some 362 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 3: league Collins, so I think that he is clearly ahead 363 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: of Ken Walker. 364 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, if it were me, coaching the Steelers, I would like, 365 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: you don't want to go two weeks with guy sitting 366 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: guys in a row. You'd only want to pick one 367 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: of these. I think week eighteen is the clear choice 368 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: to two rest guys. I would still kind of want 369 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: to keep everybody sharp here in week seventeen, a just 370 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: like I think schedule wise, that kind of works out 371 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: better for staying as sharp as possible and and be 372 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: you know, if I am going to lay down and 373 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: let the opponent opponent win, I'd rather the Ravens win 374 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: in a meetingless game and get their their draft pick. 375 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: Whors like that. They're the bigger threat to you long 376 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: term in the division. It feels like so so for 377 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: the Steelers, like it would make a lot of logical 378 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: sense for them to still try here in week seventeen 379 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: and then maybe dial it down a bit in week eighteen. 380 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: How do you see this fits? 381 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 5: Uh? In that regard? I see it the same way 382 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 5: as you. Mike Tomlins an old school coach. He's not 383 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 5: going to lay down two weeks in a row. So yeah, 384 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 5: and I I well, first of all, I love that 385 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 5: you came up with the what's the frequency? Kenneth running 386 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 5: back Tobate. That's just outstay pairing here for good, good booking. 387 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 5: And yeah, I mean I would go with Gainwall too, 388 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 5: because we know that the Steelers are going to run 389 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 5: the offense through the running backs and the tight ends. 390 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 5: I mean, that's kind of the Arthur Smith modus operandi anyway. 391 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 5: And look Walker coming off that big game where he 392 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 5: had the two really big plays against the Rams, he 393 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 5: sort of regained his luster, but in the ten games 394 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 5: before that, he averaged seven point nine a half point 395 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 5: PPR points and hit double digit points twice in those 396 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 5: ten games, typically gets pulled at the goal line in 397 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 5: favor of Zach Charbonet. Walker's usage in the passing game 398 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 5: can be kind of sporadic, so we know that Gainwall 399 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 5: is going to get pretty heavy usage in the passing game. 400 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 5: That's been consistent over the last month. And Running Game two, 401 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 5: I mean Erickson was talking about how bad the Browns 402 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 5: run defense has been since losing their their run stuffing 403 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 5: defensive tackle Elite Collins. First game without Collins, Tony Pollard 404 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 5: one hundred sixty one rushing yards and two touchdowns. Second 405 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 5: game without Collins, DeAndre Swift ninety eight rushing yards two touchdowns. 406 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 5: Last week James Cook one hundred and seventeen rushing yards, 407 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 5: two touchdowns. We're seeing a theme here, So maybe it's 408 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 5: Jalen Warren getting a little more of the rushing work. 409 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 5: But Gamell's still going to get probably eight to twelve 410 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 5: carries against this bad run defense and add a lot 411 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 5: of receiving value too. So I think he's a pretty 412 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 5: easy choice and almost a must start this week. 413 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: Ericson, I feel like for our Tuesday show next year, 414 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: this is a lesson we should remember we talked a 415 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: little bit about this early in the year, like looking 416 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: ahead to playoff schedules. A lot of people were very 417 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: afraid of the Browns defense, like when talking about Trades 418 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: earlier in the year and trying to look at him 419 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: through this perspective, And now, of course this does not 420 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: look like a scary run defense at all. I think 421 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: the lesson for me just thinking in next year is 422 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: if a team's really bad early in the year, I 423 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: want to target them, because like you know, tight ends 424 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: against the Bengals, that's still the case. But if a 425 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: team's really good, a defense is really good, and I 426 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: don't expect that team. 427 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: To be very good long term. 428 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be afraid of that, you know, 429 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: in terms of trades, and I think it's just kind 430 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: of a fool's errand to you know, project that out 431 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: ahead because it could be an injury, It could be 432 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,959 Speaker 1: just lack of effort late in the season, if if 433 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: your seasons over, a whole lot of reasons why the 434 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: defense maybe doesn't look quite as scary and you know, 435 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: non startable against as it maybe did earlier. 436 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 2: Also fits. 437 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: Did you think I was going to get this what's 438 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: the frequency Kenneth reference? I googled it as soon as 439 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: you said it, and it's a song from nineteen ninety four. 440 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: There's no chance I was going to know that. 441 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 5: You've heard of Ram before. You're familiar. 442 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 2: I've heard of Ram. 443 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how many Ram songs I could name, 444 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: but I am aware of the band Ram all right. 445 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: So so Gainwell appears just very quickly because I want 446 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: to move on Gainwell or Jalen Warren? Is it Gainwell 447 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: for both of you guys? They are very close in 448 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: ecr fits. 449 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 5: It's actually Warren for me because I think he's probably 450 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 5: going to have more of the rushing duties and I 451 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 5: think that's where you can really make hey against the 452 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 5: Browns game. 453 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: Well's once spot ahead ericson of Warren. 454 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 3: I have gamble ahead as well. Warren beg on the 455 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 3: injury report this week does slightly concern me. Just want 456 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 3: to account for it because if they find that they're 457 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 3: in a situation where let's say the Browns are up 458 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 3: steels are we can her really pull back things in 459 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 3: the second half. Let's get Warren out of there. We 460 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 3: know he had a I think is a hip injury, 461 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 3: that is what he's dealing with. So again trying to 462 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 3: read the TV is, if they're ever going to pull 463 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 3: back on any player would be someone that maybe is 464 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 3: a tad bit nicked up. 465 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 4: If that is Jalen Warren, then you could see them 466 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 4: lean a little bit more on Gainwell. 467 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 3: And then the thing with Gamewell too is I mean 468 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 3: I feel like he could see like double digit targets 469 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: in this game potentially without DK Metcalf, So like that's 470 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: another thing where he has been preferred a little bit 471 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 3: more than Jalen Warren in the passing game. And obviously 472 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 3: he can also be really efficient against this Browns run 473 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: defense too. So again I have them ranked essentially back 474 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 3: to back twenty gain Well, I had Aaron Jones at 475 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: twenty one and then Jalen Warren to twenty two. 476 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 5: How do you have those guys ranked? Visa VI O'marian 477 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 5: Hampton ericson, I. 478 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 3: Got Hampton way. He'll depends on what plays. It depends 479 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: on if Vydell plays or not. Like he'll he'll be adjusted, 480 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 3: he'll have to move down. 481 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: Hampton is one spot ahead of both of them at 482 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: ECR for what it's worth. 483 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 2: Uh, all right, let's go to another running back. 484 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: Debate here, Breyce Hall or Tyrone, Tracy Junior Erickson. 485 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: I'll start with you here. Who do you like better? 486 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pretty torn on these two guys. I like 487 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 3: both of them in their respective matchups. I just keep 488 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 3: pointing out that the Patriot run evens is not good, Like, 489 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 3: don't look at the season long stats against them, because 490 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 3: they're all banged up all over the place the last 491 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 3: four weeks since Week twelve, running back finishes against the 492 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 3: Patriots RB thirteen, RB eight, RB one, and RB eight. 493 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 4: Robert Splaine is still on the injury report. 494 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 3: Milton Williams has been designated to return from IR but 495 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 3: it's still not confirmed whether he's not playing or not. 496 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 3: Maybe that could sway me moving Town Tracy ahead of 497 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 3: Breece Hall, But I just I want to keep attacking 498 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 3: this Patriot's run defense with opposing running backs. And yeah, 499 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 3: I get Breese has been disappointed. He plays on the Jets. 500 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 3: It's not an exciting offense, but he hasn't seen anything 501 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 3: lower than fourteen touches since week ten. He had eighteen 502 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 3: total touches last week, so he's seeing volume. He's explosive 503 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 3: pass catcher, and he's got a good matchup, and he's 504 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 3: playing at home. Like those are enough of reasons where 505 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 3: it's like, okay, like I could see a ceiling spot 506 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 3: here for Brees Hall. But then again I look at 507 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 3: Tylan Tracy and I think, I mean, he's also in 508 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 3: a pretty decent spot here too. Again against the Las 509 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 3: Vegas Raiders, their team that is more of a run 510 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 3: funnel than a pass funnel, especially if we see the 511 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 3: Giants do what they did last week offensively, which was 512 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 3: let's run the ball fifteen straight times and not have 513 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 3: Jackson Dark attempt a pass. So that obviously works in 514 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 3: favor of Tyland. Tracy and Tracy also have been better 515 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 3: than Brees saw Over the last five games, Tracy has 516 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 3: at least seventy one yards from scrimmage, so he's been 517 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 3: really consistent both as a rusher and receiver. I do 518 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 3: get some concerns about the split with Devin Singletary, especially 519 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 3: around the goal line, because they're frequently like to take 520 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 3: him out and put Devin Singletary in full Zach Sharpenay fashion. 521 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 3: And the big thing with the Giants is Andrew Thomas 522 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 3: is probably not gonna play in this game. He is 523 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 3: their best offensive lineman by far, and he kind of 524 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 3: has like a a Trent Williams type of impact where 525 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 3: you take out that guy and the entire offensive line 526 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,959 Speaker 3: can crumble and then the offense becomes super dysfunctional. So 527 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,239 Speaker 3: not only is Andrew Thomas the best pass blocker, he's 528 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 3: also the best run blocker on the Giants. Max Crosby, Like, 529 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: that guy has a motor like no other player in 530 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 3: the NFL. Like it doesn't matter what the score is, 531 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what his team's record is. He is 532 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 3: coming after the quarterback no matter what, and after the 533 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 3: running back as both a pass rusher and run defender. 534 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 3: So without Andrew Thomas, I think that's Ultimately, what kind 535 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 3: of pushes me just to have resolces slightly ahead because 536 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 3: I've just seen this Giants offense without Thomas before and 537 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 3: it's a disaster. And they're also playing on the road 538 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 3: this week, so leans slightly towards bresee. But I'm not 539 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 3: really opposed to using both guys as low end RB 540 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 3: two flex plays. 541 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 5: Fitz. 542 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: Tracy is five spots ahead in ECR. He's RB twenty two. 543 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: This is in HALFVPR scoring, by the way, He's RB 544 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: twenty two. Brice Hall RB twenty seven. 545 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 5: So I have a gap of let's see, yeah, five 546 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 5: spots also between Tracy and Hall. I like Tracy Moore 547 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 5: and Tracy's had eighteen touches each of the last two weeks. 548 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 5: And I think the Giants prime directive here in their 549 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 5: last couple of games is to not get their franchise 550 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 5: quarterback destroyed in the last couple of weeks, keep him 551 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 5: fresh for twenty twenty six. And a big way to 552 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 5: do that with Andrew Thomas out is just to run 553 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 5: the heck out of the ball against the Raiders, and 554 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 5: I think that's what the Giants are going to do. 555 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 5: Ericson and I talked about Bresall in the ranking show, 556 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 5: and he's kind of interested in Hall because of the matchup. 557 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 5: I almost think the matchup, I don't want to say 558 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 5: it's irrelevant. I think it's less relevant. I think what 559 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 5: sort of super seeds The matchup is just the utter 560 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 5: incompetence of the Jets offense right now with Brady Cook 561 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 5: at quarterback. So in two starts, the two starts Brady 562 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 5: Cook has made for the Jets, bres Hall has averaged 563 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 5: fifty yards from scrimmage and hasn't scored a touchdown. He's 564 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 5: been RB forty seven and RB forty in fantasy scoring 565 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 5: the last two weeks. I just I don't want to 566 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 5: play Breshall on a championship game. Fits. 567 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: Who do you think wins that Giants Raiders game, by 568 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: the way, and therefore loses the number one pick? 569 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: Probably? 570 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 5: I feel like it would be a Raiders thing to 571 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 5: do to win that game and not get the first 572 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 5: pick when they so desperately need a quarterback, and so 573 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 5: I tend to think the Raiders are gonna win. 574 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 3: Ericson, I want no part of wagering on this particular 575 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 3: game because you don't know what, like what each team 576 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 3: is trying to do, and like, what's their plan if 577 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 3: it's a close game, could you just see like, hey, 578 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 3: g you know, just just gotta throw a pick here, 579 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 3: Like you just gotta do it. Like the play call's 580 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 3: gonna come in that has a zero percent chance of 581 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 3: being completed. 582 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 4: It's like, no, you gotta do this play. It's gonna work. 583 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 3: They're gonna run that stupid pick play that got picked 584 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 3: off in the Super Bowl that Pete Carroll called instead 585 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 3: of running the ball to Marshall w so they can 586 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 3: do the same thing. Right, It's gonna be genty he's 587 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 3: he's been eating all game and they're not gonna hand 588 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 3: off him. They're gonna throw it and they're gonna lose 589 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 3: because of some interceptions. So yeah, I don't know who's 590 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 3: going to win this game. I guess the thing with 591 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 3: the Giants is they were in this similar situation last 592 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 3: year and then Drew Locke had like this career game, 593 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 3: so they've been here before. But they also theoretically have 594 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 3: their franchise quarterback with Jackson. I mean, I think that 595 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 3: he can be a franchise quarterback. But the Giants will 596 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 3: have a new coaching staff and also, you know, my 597 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 3: kaf goes still kind of coaching for his job, right, 598 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 3: like whether it's for the Giants next year or for 599 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 3: another team down the line. Now, I don't know, we'll 600 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 3: all find out together, right, who really wanted to win 601 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 3: this game? 602 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? 603 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: And I obviously you'd rather have the higher pick, but 604 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: like I mean the Texans a couple of years ago too, 605 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: like they had that meaningless win in the last game 606 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: season and then so they got Stroud instead of Bryce Young, 607 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: which has largely looked, you know, really good, Like you 608 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: maybe there's some karma with winning the game when you 609 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: know it seems obviously you should. 610 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: A lot of coaches talk about how you want to 611 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 3: build like a winning yeah, like you don't want to 612 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 3: just lose on purpose, right, And the way that coaches 613 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 3: get around it is you just, well, we're going to 614 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 3: start all of our bad players and then they'll play 615 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 3: their hardest, so they're trying to win, but we're putting 616 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 3: them in a position where the likelihood of them winning 617 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 3: is very very low. And that's probably the case like 618 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 3: with like the Jets for example. 619 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: Right, tank, but players don't like you want the players 620 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: to try. 621 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 5: Right, So it's the moves the coaches in the front 622 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 5: office makes and like we saw brock Bauers try to 623 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 5: play through a PCL injury earlier this year and be 624 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 5: totally ineffective. Lately, he's been playing pretty well and now 625 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 5: all of a sudden that the Raiders are putting him 626 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 5: on IR for like a precautionary measure. Okay, yeah, okay. 627 00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Let's go to some of our receiver debates here. 628 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: How about Zay Flowers versus Jalen Waddle. Flowers has been playing. 629 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: You know, I have probably been as vocal as Flowers. 630 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: I won't say hater, but fader in terms of fantasy 631 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: you know, throughout the season as there is last three 632 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: weeks wide receiver eight, wide receiver twenty, wide receiver nine, 633 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: and it feels like he maybe even has been leaving 634 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: a little bit on the field. But of course now 635 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: it's Tyler Huntley in all likelihood as of right now, 636 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: Lamar's technically so doubtful he's not gonna play. So it's 637 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: gonna be Zay Flowers with Tyler Huntley going up against 638 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: Jaylen Waddle with his own quarterback question marks here, Fitz, 639 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: I'll start with you on this one. Who do you 640 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: have ranked higres Jay Flowers or Jalen Wattle. 641 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 5: Flowers, He's posted his three highest fantasy point totals of 642 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 5: the season in his last three games. He's giving us 643 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 5: a decent weekly floor worm. I know the touchdown output 644 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 5: has been disappointing this year, but Flowers has had at 645 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 5: least five catches in fourteen of his fifteen games this year. 646 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 5: He said at least sixty receiving yards in eleven of 647 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 5: fifteen games, and one of the misses was a fifty 648 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 5: eight yard game. So the floor is pretty sturdy here, 649 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 5: and we've been getting some ceiling out of him lately. 650 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 5: So I don't know if there's a huge drop off 651 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 5: in the quality of the receiving outlook. I guess going 652 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 5: from Jackson. 653 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 2: To Hotly, let's say careful. 654 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, I mean, like the Lamar's great, but 655 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 5: he hasn't been Lamar for most of this season. That's 656 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 5: kind of why I say that. Meanwhile, I do think 657 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 5: there has been a drop off from you know, Tua, 658 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 5: and I know Tua is not everyone's favorite quarterback, but 659 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 5: going from him to Quinn yours like that that hurts Wattle, 660 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 5: And I know yours managed to throw for two hundred 661 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 5: and sixty yards last week, but no touchdowns. I just 662 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 5: I think Flowers is a safer play this week than Wattle. 663 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: Is I just a note of correction, and maybe I 664 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: misheard you, so apologizes if I did. It sounded like 665 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: you said that he's had his three best games of 666 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: the season last three weeks. That's except Week one, where 667 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: he had his best game of the story. 668 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 5: That's right, that's right. 669 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was his best game of the year. But 670 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: except for Week one, his best three of the season. 671 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 5: Have been the last six Week two. 672 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yeah, this is one where and by the way, 673 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: on the rankings in ECR, Flowers is eight wide receiver eighteen, 674 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: Wattle is wide receiver twenty and Justin Jefferson was the 675 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: guy in the middle already played, so amongst the players 676 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: who haven't played yet, they are back to back in 677 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: ECR ericson who do you like better between Flowers? You've 678 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: been a Wattle guy for years. Really may see ahead 679 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: of Flowers in this case too. 680 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 3: I do have Wattle ahead of Flowers, and I agree 681 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 3: with all the points that fits made about Flowers definitely 682 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 3: offering the higher floor. But when I'm in my championships, 683 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to think about floor. I'm thinking about Okay, 684 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 3: who could have a bonkers type of game, And I 685 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 3: look at Buccaneers Dolphins and I see this game could 686 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 3: get nuts. Whereas Ravens going on the road to play 687 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 3: at Lambeau, which is one of the heaviest under stadiums 688 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 3: this year. With the Packers defense, now, I know that 689 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 3: their secondary can be had, and that's why Flowers does 690 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 3: have a high floor. But it comes down to the touchdowns. Right, 691 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 3: are his odds of scoring higher because he has Tyler 692 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 3: Hartley as his quarterback? 693 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 4: I would probably say no. 694 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 3: Now, not to say that Waddle has like this enormous 695 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 3: touchdown equity at Quetch to attach to quinn Ewers, But 696 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 3: when you're facing the Buccaneers defense, everyone does the exact 697 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 3: same thing. They just throw, throw, throw, and throw. So 698 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 3: it just takes Waddle for one big play, you know, 699 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 3: pass interference defender falls down or something along those lines 700 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 3: where he can break off a big run. And I 701 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 3: just think that, look last week, he was really good 702 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 3: five or seven or shouldn't say really good modest five 703 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 3: or seventy two on nine targets. But that's basically the 704 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 3: very similar stat line that Zay Flowers put up in 705 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 3: Tyler's Huntley's first start this year seven for sixty three 706 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 3: on nine targets, so both guys should see around double 707 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 3: digit targets. I just think from a game script perspective, 708 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 3: which game could really be a shootout? I think it's 709 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 3: probably the Buccaneers and the Dolphins game in Miami versus 710 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 3: this game with potentially backup quarterbacks on both sides at 711 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 3: lambeau Field. 712 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 4: So I do think it's close. 713 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 3: If you want to lean in towards the floor, I 714 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 3: would agree that it probably is a Flowers, But I 715 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 3: think Waddle has a potential ceiling spot, not because of 716 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 3: his quarterback, but because of the matchup against the Buccaneers 717 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 3: defense that we've seen. I mean, Kyle Pitts had a 718 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 3: pretty good game against the Buccaneers a couple weeks ago 719 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 3: with the backup quarterback. 720 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 4: He was pretty good, so I think Waddle would be. 721 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Kirk Cousins and Quinn Yewers are not really 722 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: comparable at this current backup quarterbacks. 723 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 2: That's that's yes, in that sense, they are. 724 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess it feels a little weird 725 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: for me to think about either of these players in 726 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: terms of ceiling because they have this season they have 727 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: not really been ceiling players for the most part. Uh, 728 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: they have been more about the floor. I mean Flowers 729 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: in particular in that regard. But Waddle only has one 730 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: hundred yards receiving game this season. Like, It's not like 731 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: he's had these huge blow up spots either for the 732 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: most part. 733 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 2: So do you see the. 734 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: Game script similarly to Ericsson fits in terms of like 735 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: I mean it just as a Packers fan, like Ravens 736 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: Packers not really having a good chance of being this 737 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: high octane game. 738 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 5: I kind of do you know, it seemed like Jordan 739 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 5: Love was on track to start and I don't know 740 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 5: if that changes now that the Lions lost and the 741 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 5: Packers have their spot assured and you know they can't 742 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 5: I don't Maybe technically they could earn a home game 743 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 5: if like the Bears lose out and the Packers went out, 744 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 5: but I don't think that's gonna happen. So maybe they 745 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 5: don't start Love this week. Yeah, I don't know, but 746 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 5: I agree there's probably more of a chance for fireworks 747 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 5: and Buccaneers Dolphins than there isn't Ravens Packers. 748 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: Let's go to our second wide receiver debate here? How 749 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: about DJ Moore or Michael Wilson fits. I will start 750 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: with you here, who do you like better? And we 751 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: seventeen DJ Moore obviously coming off of his you know, 752 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: really exciting finish last week, he's wide receiver twenty two 753 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: or Michael Wilson, who is wide receiver twenty six in 754 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 1: that great matchup with the Bengals. 755 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, real exciting finish last week for DJ Moore. Thanks 756 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 5: for I am leaning Michael Wilson. 757 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 2: I'm really saying that. 758 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: In my head, I was like, uh craft that was 759 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: against the Packers and now as excited. 760 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 4: To finish as Raven's Patriots was. Worm that was. 761 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 2: There's a reason we didn't do the Tuesday showed those works. 762 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 5: So I'm leaning Michael Wilson over Dj Moore. DJ Moore 763 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 5: is on a little bit of a heater, with touchdowns 764 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,959 Speaker 5: three in his last two games, five in his last 765 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 5: five games. But even with Romo Dune San Luther Burden 766 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 5: out last week against the Packers, More only had seven targets, 767 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 5: and if that game had not gone to overtime where 768 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 5: he got the long touchdown catch, he would have finished 769 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 5: with four catches for fifty one yards, so Wilson also 770 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 5: on a heater with touchdowns four in his last three games. 771 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 5: I guess the fear is that well, one is that 772 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 5: his target count dropped last week with Marvin Harrison Junior back, 773 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 5: even though it seems to me like Marvin Harrison Junior 774 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 5: is not fully healthy. But I guess maybe the bigger 775 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 5: fear is that the Cardinals tight ends run wild against 776 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 5: the Broncos, mostly Trey McBride but maybe Elijah Higgins two, 777 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 5: and the receivers aren't as involved like the Bengals have 778 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 5: allowed the fourth fewest fantasy points I believe to wide 779 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 5: receivers and far and away the most fantasy points to the 780 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 5: tight ends. And before Week sixteen, Wilson had gotten double 781 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 5: digits in four of his previous five games. But then 782 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 5: Harrison Junior came back last week and Wilson only had 783 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,720 Speaker 5: three targets, although he still managed to finish with fifty 784 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 5: two yards in a touchdown. I'm pretty optimistic though, that 785 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 5: Joe Burrow and the Bengals can push the Cardinals into 786 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 5: a shootout where a lot of the pass catchers eat 787 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 5: for both teams. I don't think there's much of a 788 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 5: chance of the Bears getting into a show shootout, because 789 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 5: that's just not how they want to play. Like they 790 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 5: have an excellent running game. They want to run the 791 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 5: ball successfully so that it could be a high scoring game. 792 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,439 Speaker 5: But I don't think it'll be a high scoring game 793 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 5: with Caleb Williams throwing forty passes. So I think there's 794 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 5: a little bit of an edge for Wilson here. 795 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: It is crazy how straightforward it's been like in terms 796 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: of if Marvin Harrison Juniors in the field or not 797 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 1: for Michael Wilson, Like cause you mentioned like the double 798 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: digit targets in four the last five games, it's not 799 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: just double digit in three of those four games, it 800 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: was fifteen plus targets is eighteen, fifteen, sixteen, and then eleven. 801 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: And then as soon as Marvin Harrison Junior's back in 802 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,399 Speaker 1: the field, even not fully healthy, even not really having 803 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: been producing when he was on the field, Michael Wilson 804 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,280 Speaker 1: drops down to three targets. It's just like kind of gobsmacking, honestly. 805 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, we didn't get the crazy like Brissette had been 806 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 5: throwing a lot, like he had typically been going over 807 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 5: forty pass attempts, and it was just that the Cardinals 808 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 5: didn't run a lot of plays last week and that 809 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 5: came against the Falcons, so Brisette had I think think 810 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 5: thirty one pass attempts. If he goes over forty, I 811 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 5: think the volume will be fine for Wilson, maybe not 812 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 5: double digits, but I think he'll get seven or eight targets. 813 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 5: If you know Bersett is back up to forty pass attempts. 814 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 2: Ericson who do you prefer DJ Moore or Michael Wilson, Yeah, 815 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:17,280 Speaker 2: I don't. 816 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 3: Love either guy, to be totally honest, I think that 817 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 3: I would default the DJ Moore, although it does seem 818 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 3: like Luther Burden's going to play in this game. So 819 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 3: that's something that's concerning about More. And to fit his point, 820 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 3: More has only seen six targets peringume in the last 821 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 3: two weeks, right, he hasn't been this monster target earned 822 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 3: despite the injuries to some of these other Bears pass catchers. 823 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 3: I like his matchup more against the forty nine Ers. 824 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 3: We saw Philip Rivers throw on this forty nine Ers defense, like, 825 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 3: so I like that. And if you do get a 826 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 3: chance where it is negative game script because I don't 827 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 3: know how the Bears defense is going to stop the 828 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 3: death Star that is the forty nine ers offense with 829 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 3: Kyle Shanahan and Brock Purty really operating at I mean, 830 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 3: they're on fire right now. So I kind of like 831 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 3: that for the Bears passing game. Whereas Michael Wilson, I'm 832 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 3: just not trying to overthink this. You start him when 833 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior is out, and you don't start him 834 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 3: when he's in. 835 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 4: And last week, I feel. 836 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 3: Like the fantas manager's kind of got bailed out, where 837 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 3: like he had one long pass, he caught the touchdown 838 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 3: and you feel, Okay, he made it through. But I 839 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 3: feel like you're playing with fire if you go back 840 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,280 Speaker 3: to Michael Wilson when you look at all the data 841 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 3: we have when he's on the field with Marvin Harrison Junior, 842 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 3: Michael Wilson doesn't get targets. And it's just so obvious 843 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 3: to see in the games, in the game logs from 844 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 3: this year from last year, like when they're both on 845 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,439 Speaker 3: the field, Michael Wilson doesn't get targeted nearly as much 846 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 3: when Marvin Harrison is playing and the matchup, how do 847 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 3: you attack the Bengals so with tight ends and running backs, 848 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 3: So I think even If this game does have a 849 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 3: lot of high scoring, it's not because of Michael Wilson 850 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 3: and Marvin I kind of feel like they just kind 851 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 3: of cannibalize each other where they're going to eat into whatever. 852 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 3: All amount of targets go to the wide receivers, and 853 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 3: it's gonna be I mean, Trey mc bride had a 854 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 3: bad game last week, so that that output from last 855 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 3: week is probably going to at least a double or 856 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 3: even triple against the Cincinnati Bengals because he was held 857 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 3: under five catches for the first time, and I don't 858 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 3: know how long his streak of having at least five 859 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 3: receptions in a game, So I think that's gonna change. 860 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 3: The Bengals are lying the fewest points per game to 861 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 3: wide receivers this season, so I'm trying to find alternatives 862 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 3: to Michael Wilson. I do you guys know what Michael 863 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 3: Wilson's receptions prop this week is. I almost fell out 864 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 3: of my chair when I saw what it was. 865 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 4: What do you think it is? 866 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 5: So like four and a half? 867 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 4: It's five and a half. 868 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 5: Jeez, that's crazy, and I thought four and a half 869 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 5: would have been too high. Five and a half is crazy. 870 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 3: I was like, I mean, like again, there's there's never 871 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 3: a lock of all locks. 872 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 4: But I mean, come on. 873 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 5: If there was one, is it like minus two to 874 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 5: bet the under on that? Or no? 875 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 3: It's actually so you can get at four and a half. 876 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 3: It's plus money at under four and a half. Wow, 877 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 3: And thinks I mean it's juicy. I think it's minus 878 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 3: one fifty, so it is a juicier one. But I mean, 879 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 3: hey it is. Can't go broke, make it a profit? 880 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 5: Right right? 881 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to our more rapid fire starts 882 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: at decisions here. We'll do another running back one. We're 883 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 1: just talking about the Bears. How about Kyle Mcanungai or 884 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 1: Blake Koram? Fits Who do you like better? Manunga or Koram. 885 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 5: I've quorum ranked one spot higher. Pretty similar outlooks. Two 886 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 5: backup running backs who typically get around a dozen touches 887 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 5: a game and playing strong running games behind very good 888 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 5: offensive lines. I just think the Rams have a better 889 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,240 Speaker 5: offense than the Bears, and they have a higher employ 890 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 5: implied vegas point total than the Bears. I think the 891 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 5: Rams implied total it's like twenty eight and a half 892 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 5: and Bears are around twenty four and a half, just 893 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 5: better touchdown odds with Koram, but this one's close. 894 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: The other thing I wanted to point out just on 895 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: that game because we talked about it as kind of 896 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,959 Speaker 1: this big, exciting, you know, finish to the title game 897 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 1: front of the show. Scott Pinowski was tweeting about this 898 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: the other day. There's a chance that the Rams are 899 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 1: not able to win the division going into that game, 900 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: depending on what happens with Seattle and San Francisco. And 901 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 1: if that's the case, we know McVeigh has been aggressive 902 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: about resting guys in the past. Again kind of similar 903 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 1: to talking about the Steelers. We're still two weeks away, 904 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: so you would think that's maybe not a total issue, 905 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 1: but it is something kind of in the back of 906 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: your mind that I saw Scott point out on Twitter. 907 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: And you know, if that is the case and McVeigh 908 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: decides to be, you know, on the kind of extreme 909 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 1: end of rest, then you would think Blake Korum could 910 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: maybe get even more carries. And they kind of sit 911 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: Kien Williams just as a possibility and Blake Korum in 912 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 1: this offense, although if other people are sitting who knows, 913 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: But in what is typically a very good offense if 914 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: he's getting even more carries because they're trying to dial 915 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 1: it down for Kien in that scenario, just something to 916 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 1: keep in mind, it could be even better for Korum 917 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: there by the way, they are two spots apart in 918 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: ECR Korum are we thirty one? Manung Guy RB twenty 919 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: nine Ericson. 920 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,240 Speaker 3: I was kind of torn on this, but Fitz convinced 921 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 3: me that it should be Blake. Korm and had similar roles. 922 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 3: But if you look at projected game flow, I would 923 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 3: probably bet on the Rams playing with a lead more 924 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 3: likely than Manung Guy and the Bears playing with the 925 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 3: lead against the forty nine ers, and. 926 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 4: So I would also go with Korm. I don't think 927 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 4: it's close though. 928 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to a receiver one here, Christian 929 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: Watson or Chris Godwin Erickson. 930 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 2: I'll start with you here. 931 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 3: Both guys are on the injury report, so TVD on 932 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 3: who's actually playing. 933 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 4: So I think I just leaned with Watson. 934 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 3: I think that he's just showing he is a higher 935 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 3: ceiling on a week to week basis. We'll see what 936 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 3: who his quarterback is. Hopefully it's short of Love that's 937 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 3: who I would prefer so. I don't feeling like super 938 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 3: great about either guy right now. 939 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: Watson popped up with an illness, right fits I believe, 940 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: so yeah, yeah, this is yeah, go ahead. 941 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 5: Well I was I was just gonna say. I mean, 942 00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 5: the Lions loss to the Viking was good for Packers fans, 943 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,280 Speaker 5: but it's not good for anyone I think who's invested 944 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 5: in the Green Bay passing game. Because they were sort 945 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 5: of expecting to have Jordan Love back despite the concussion 946 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 5: last week. I think that if this were sort of 947 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 5: a game they needed to win, we would be assured 948 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 5: of seeing Christian Watson. Now I don't know, so I 949 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 5: think if if Watson is active and Jordan Love starts, 950 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,280 Speaker 5: I would play Christian Watson here. I mean, he scored 951 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 5: five touchdowns in his last six games, a pair of 952 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 5: two touchdown games. Big play receiver and wormier Ravens do 953 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 5: give up big plays in the passing game fifty five 954 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 5: pass completions of twenty or more yards. That's tied for 955 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 5: third most in the league, just two behind the Bengals, 956 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 5: who've given up the most. Like I don't hate Godwin 957 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 5: as an option, but the Buccaneers are using a four 958 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 5: receiver rotation these days with Godwin, Mike Evans, a Mecca 959 00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,879 Speaker 5: Abuka and Jalen McMillan. So Evans is the alpha. And 960 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 5: you know, there's also the fact that Baker Mayfield hasn't 961 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 5: played all that well over the last two months, whereas 962 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 5: Jordan Love has been dealing. So if Love plays, I 963 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,240 Speaker 5: want Watson here over Godwin. 964 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: Let's do some flexes here. We mentioned to maryon Hampton earlier. 965 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: How about Hampton or Juwan Jennings fits Hampton. 966 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 5: I know it's a tough matchup against the Texans, although 967 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 5: the Texans let Ashton Genty run wild on them last week. 968 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 5: And I think with the Chargers injury plagued offensive line 969 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 5: having these protection issues where they just are not keeping 970 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 5: the pressure off justin Herbert, Chargers really need to run 971 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 5: the ball heavily and effectively in this game. So I 972 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 5: like Jennings too. I've got him a wide receiver fifteen 973 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 5: for the week, but his value has been pretty touchdown dependent. 974 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 5: He's got seven touchdowns in his last seven games. But 975 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 5: Jennings hasn't given us more than seventy one receiving yards 976 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 5: in a game since Week two, And it's possible Ricky 977 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 5: Pierce all comes back, although George Kittle's status is kind 978 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 5: of up in the air, so maybe that could funnel 979 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,439 Speaker 5: a few extra targets. Jennings Way, but I would still 980 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 5: rather have a. 981 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,919 Speaker 3: Hampton ericson Hampton for me, and even more so if 982 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 3: Camane Videl doesn't play in this game. I think the 983 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 3: Chargers know, hey, we got to run the football to 984 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 3: keep the Texans pass rush off of destroying our quarterback 985 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 3: Justin Hurburt. And of course this game is you play 986 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 3: on Saturday. The window where Saturday, late December early January, 987 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 3: there's always a Texans game on at four thirty Eastern. 988 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 3: It's just I don't know why it always seems like this. 989 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 3: It's usually them playing in the Wildcard round, hosting a 990 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 3: wildcard game, but just all the memories of like it's 991 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 3: like after Christmas, like New Year's just coming up. 992 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, yeah, the Texans are on Saturday four thirty. 993 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 5: Here we go, it's the Matt Shaw Memorial time slot. 994 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 1: Yes, they have taken residence in that Saturday Wildcard weekend 995 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 1: game every single year that they're in the playoffs. All right, 996 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,879 Speaker 1: next flex here Jalen Warren, who we also already talked about, 997 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,240 Speaker 1: or Teteroa mcmill in ericson. 998 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 3: Jalen Warren for me, assuming that we get reports of 999 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,719 Speaker 3: Steelers are gona play their guys, Jalen Warren's fine, He's 1000 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 3: not dealing with his hip injury. 1001 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,879 Speaker 4: So that's roy Lean. Just because the Browns matchup is 1002 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 4: really really good. 1003 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 5: Fits agreed, Just Steeler running backs both really good players 1004 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 5: this week against the Browns with their issues against the 1005 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 5: running game lately. I like, I don't hate McMillan. I'm 1006 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 5: not terrified by the Seattle matchup, but we do know 1007 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,760 Speaker 5: that Dave Kanellis has kind of tried to hide Bryce 1008 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 5: Young for a lot of this year, so I think 1009 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,800 Speaker 5: he doesn't want to open it up and have Bryce 1010 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 5: Young throw thirty or more passes unless he absolutely has to. 1011 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 5: Maybe he'll have to this week, but I don't know. 1012 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 5: It's just it seems like there's way more upside with 1013 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 5: the running back on a team that has no wide receivers. 1014 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 2: Michael Carter or Jacobi Myers fits. 1015 00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,120 Speaker 5: I'm going with Carter. You know, he is the Cardinals' 1016 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 5: running back, and no team has given up more rushing 1017 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,799 Speaker 5: yards to running backs than the Bengals. So Myers more 1018 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 5: of an ensemble cast of pass catchers for the Jaguars 1019 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 5: these days, so could have a big game, could kind 1020 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 5: of fall by the wayside. I think Carter's going to 1021 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,720 Speaker 5: be I think he offers the safer floor Erickson. 1022 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 3: I will go to Jacobe Myers because the Colts defense 1023 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 3: is terrible. Their secondary is a mess. I don't know 1024 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 3: if Sas Carter is playing in this game or not. 1025 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 3: Even if he does, I would not expect him to 1026 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 3: shadow Jacobe Myers. And although it is kind of everybody 1027 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 3: eats type of mantra in this Jack's passing game, this 1028 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,280 Speaker 3: passing game has also become a wagon right. Trevor Lawrence 1029 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 3: is tied with Josh Allen as the QB one in 1030 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,839 Speaker 3: points per games since Week five, So I feel like 1031 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 3: I want to put my stock more into the Jaguars 1032 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 3: offense rather than the Cardinals offense. I had to talk 1033 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 3: about Carter earlier, where it's not all him in that 1034 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 3: back field. They are using other guys. I know Fitz 1035 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 3: mentioned the lack of receptions last week. I think part 1036 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 3: of that too is Amaro de Mercado played more snaps 1037 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 3: on third downs, kind of taking away some of the 1038 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 3: receptions for Michael Carter. So my only concern with Carter 1039 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 3: is he gets a lot of rushing yards but doesn't 1040 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 3: catch passes and maybe doesn't score. So that's where I 1041 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 3: get concerned with him, especially in like the full PPR. 1042 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 3: Where's Jacoby Myers? I mean, he's the target leader basically 1043 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 3: every single week for the Jacksonville Jaguars. It's a good 1044 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 3: matchup for him, So I like the Jaguars wide receiver fitz. 1045 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,240 Speaker 2: Where's Myers ranked to you amongst two receivers? 1046 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:39,240 Speaker 5: I have got him ranked wide receiver twenty twenty seven. 1047 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so you're well below consensus. Jacoby Myers is wide 1048 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 1: receiver sixteen in ECR. 1049 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,840 Speaker 5: I don't understand why. I just like, there are a 1050 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 5: lot of pass catchers now for the Jaguars, and I 1051 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 5: don't know we'll see Ken Philip Rivers force Trevor Lawrence 1052 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,919 Speaker 5: into a shoot out. Trevor Lawrence just I know he's 1053 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 5: been on fire, but like, are we booking him for 1054 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 5: four touchdown passes every week? I just I can't get 1055 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 5: there with him if. 1056 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 4: He faces colts every week. 1057 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,360 Speaker 3: I mean, I Rock Perney made it look pretty easy. 1058 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:17,359 Speaker 2: Myers. 1059 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 1: Not only is he up there, he's gone up like 1060 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,839 Speaker 1: he has risen six spots in ECR in the last 1061 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 1: two days. He was at twenty two, but since Wednesday 1062 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 1: has gone up to wide receiver sixteen here, all right, 1063 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 1: let's go to another flex here, ericson ad and I 1064 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,359 Speaker 1: Mitchell or Zach Sharbone. 1065 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 4: I will go with Zach Sharbone. 1066 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 3: I just think he probably has better odds of scoring 1067 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 3: a touchdown. 1068 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:41,800 Speaker 2: Fitz. 1069 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's as simple as that. I just don't want 1070 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,320 Speaker 5: to have to rely on a wide receiver tied to 1071 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 5: Brady Cook. I would rather just cross my fingers and 1072 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 5: hope to get a touchdown from Zach Sharboney. 1073 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to a quarterback here. How about 1074 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 1: Jacobe Brussette or the aforementioned Trevor Lawrence. Fitz, I'll start 1075 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 1: with you on this. 1076 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 5: Oh man, this is a close call. And speaking of Lawrence, 1077 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,239 Speaker 5: with the touchdown outburst the last couple of weeks where 1078 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 5: he's given us, I think, you know, four or five 1079 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,879 Speaker 5: touchdown passes a touchdown run every week. Where was this 1080 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 5: earlier in the year when I needed it in the 1081 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,760 Speaker 5: Fantasy pros in house league, where I had Trevor Lawrence 1082 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 5: like I was thrilled when I won Joe Flacco on 1083 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,800 Speaker 5: waivers so I wouldn't have to start Trevor Lawrence anymore 1084 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 5: at one point this season. And now like Trevor Lawrence 1085 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,879 Speaker 5: is carrying people to Fantasy Championship. So it's been quite 1086 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,400 Speaker 5: the turnaround after I was already eliminated in that league. 1087 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,440 Speaker 5: I HaVeset ranked one spot higher. It's a really close call, 1088 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 5: but before last week, Brissett had been averaging three hundred 1089 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 5: passing yards and two touchdown passes in his starts for 1090 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 5: the Cardinals this year, and you know, he kind of 1091 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,839 Speaker 5: flopped last week against the Falcons. But I think we 1092 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,880 Speaker 5: could get a shootout between the Cardinals and the Bengals, 1093 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,760 Speaker 5: and we know Trey McBride is going to absolutely destroy 1094 00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 5: a Cincinnati defense that simply cannot stop tight ends. So 1095 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 5: Lawrence also a top ten quarterback option too. I just 1096 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,399 Speaker 5: like Perset a little more. 1097 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 1: They're both ranked very highly in ECR. Of course, ericson 1098 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,360 Speaker 1: who do you prefer Lawrence or Pressette? 1099 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 4: I prefer Trevor Lawrence. 1100 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 3: And I'm kicking myself because in my championship league I 1101 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 3: had to actually drop Trevor Lawrence earlier because he was 1102 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 3: facing the Broncos last week, and I was like, well, 1103 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,879 Speaker 3: I have Jacoby, I'm gonna roll with him next week. 1104 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,360 Speaker 3: And now I'm like, I just make the worst decision 1105 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 3: in my entire life. So I hope fits is right, 1106 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 3: and I hope that Jacobe outscores Trevor Lawrence, but I 1107 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,920 Speaker 3: would go. I was panic. I was like, maybe I 1108 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 3: could pick him back up. Of course I have zero 1109 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 3: FAB left, so I had no chance of getting Trevor Laurance. 1110 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 3: Luckily my opponent was not able to get him. Someone 1111 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,239 Speaker 3: in the Constellation bracket picked up Trevor Lawrence instead, So 1112 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 3: wasn't the. 1113 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 4: Worst maneuver to fits this point. 1114 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 3: Both guys are really good options, very strongly ranked both 1115 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 3: an ECR. 1116 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 4: But I would go with Trevor. 1117 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,040 Speaker 3: I mean, like I said before, QB one tie with 1118 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 3: Josh Allen since week five and he's facing the Colts 1119 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 3: indoors in a dome, I think the Jaguars. 1120 00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:58,480 Speaker 4: Could you just pouring on offensively? 1121 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,759 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Lawrence is one spot ahead 1122 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 1: of Matthew Stafford ericson, would you start Lawrence ahead of Stafford? 1123 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,719 Speaker 3: Well, now you're making me second guests. A lot of 1124 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 3: my RAMS rankings because of what you just mentioned about 1125 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 3: if they don't have anything to play for it, I 1126 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,840 Speaker 3: would not I would not be strum. He's like, no Staffords, 1127 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 3: I'm playing like we're gonna take him out and I'll 1128 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 3: play Garoppolo because he knows that so much of what 1129 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 3: makes the Rams so effective and their upside is having 1130 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 3: a healthy Matthew Stafford. And I don't think anyone in 1131 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,839 Speaker 3: the I don't think Anon of the locker room's gonna 1132 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,120 Speaker 3: be like, oh, like, why'd you bentch Stafford's like, if 1133 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 3: we have nothing to play for, He's not touched in 1134 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 3: the field, So that would concern me. And I think 1135 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 3: that we could see a guy like Jimmy Garoppolo if 1136 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 3: that scenario plays itself out, because we know that the 1137 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 3: Rams don't ever risk their guys in meaningless games in 1138 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 3: the preseason. 1139 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 5: So I think it. 1140 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 1: Depends on how they define meaningless because they are they 1141 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,040 Speaker 1: can still fight for a better seed. 1142 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,279 Speaker 4: He doesn't. He doesn't care about seed, but. 1143 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,279 Speaker 1: Yes, he's nothing for historically he has not cared about 1144 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 1: the better seed when and it's like the difference between 1145 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 1: the three and the four seed, or like the five 1146 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 1: and the six seed. Sean McVay is historically not really 1147 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,280 Speaker 1: really minded that. Again, two weeks away from the playoffs, 1148 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 1: it feels like pretty early, but it's just something to 1149 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 1: keep in mind. It would be crushing to me in 1150 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 1: my in my championship league. It's a super flex, and 1151 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,279 Speaker 1: I lost my homes and Gardner Minshew and I have 1152 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 1: no available starting quarterbacks, so Stafford is my only QB. 1153 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:22,839 Speaker 2: That would be really rough to. 1154 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would pick up right now. 1155 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 2: I cannot pick him up. 1156 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 1: It's a league where you have to have a minimum 1157 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 1: one dollar to make any kind of waiver pickup. I 1158 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:34,799 Speaker 1: spent everything on Minshew because I was like, the last 1159 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 1: spot I need is I just lost my home, so 1160 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,360 Speaker 1: let me make sure I get his his backup. 1161 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 2: What's the worst that could happen? 1162 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 1: He immediately Dari's ACL and now Stafford might not play. 1163 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 1: So that would be a very, very devastating finish to 1164 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 1: that season. 1165 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 2: But it's somebody to keep in mind. Obviously. 1166 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,840 Speaker 1: I think we're all hoping that we still get the 1167 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 1: Rams in that game. You know, give given it. 1168 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,800 Speaker 5: They're all I've been agonizing over a Brock Party versus 1169 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,400 Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford start decision, and I had sort of independently 1170 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 5: decided to go, and I've got them ranked ad Jason 1171 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,719 Speaker 5: to each other in the rankings. I decided to go 1172 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 5: with Party. Now I feel like it's kind of a 1173 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 5: nope brainer now that you raise that scenario with the 1174 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:17,359 Speaker 5: Pianowski scenario here, because yeah, that's got to terrify anyone 1175 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 5: who's depending on the Rams passing game in this final week. 1176 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 1: Any other coach, and that would be pretty optimistic that 1177 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:23,759 Speaker 1: they'd still play. 1178 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 2: But McVeigh is the one, like given his history. 1179 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,920 Speaker 1: By the way, those four names we talked about, Lauren Stafford, 1180 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,799 Speaker 1: Party Brissett are all back to back to back to 1181 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 1: back in ECR. So that's kind of the range that 1182 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 1: we are well discussed also too, for if. 1183 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 3: You are a Stafford manager, just make sure you have 1184 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,399 Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins just like just in case, like they pulled 1185 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,359 Speaker 3: the plug on, so you have a backup. I mean, 1186 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 3: the Rams can give up yardage with their secondary, so 1187 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 3: just to be sure because Chubckay probably won't tell usuntil it's. 1188 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 4: Too late because that's because that's how they roll. 1189 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 1: So all right, we got a tight end one here, 1190 00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard or Tyler Warren, these guys are back to 1191 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:04,239 Speaker 1: back back end tight end ones in ecr ericson who 1192 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 1: do you like better, Goddard or Warren? 1193 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,359 Speaker 4: So I like Tyler Warren better. 1194 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,479 Speaker 3: He has been the target leader with Philip Rivers under 1195 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 3: center the last two games. It's a good matchup for 1196 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,000 Speaker 3: him against the Jacksonville Jaguars defense. 1197 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 5: And I know. 1198 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 4: Warren's been disappointing. 1199 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 3: The box scores have been pretty pretty preutred, but the 1200 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 3: volume has been there for him the last couple of games, 1201 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 3: and the matchup is good for him. He's a talented player. 1202 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 3: You can make plays after the catch, So I actually 1203 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,919 Speaker 3: prefer Warren here. I hate the matchup for Dallas Goddard 1204 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,720 Speaker 3: against the Bills. Bills have been brutal against Titans, especially 1205 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,560 Speaker 3: guys that are more in line Titans than more of 1206 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 3: these hybrid types of players. However, I would probably have 1207 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 3: to move Goddard up if this aj Brown thing, Like, dude, 1208 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,359 Speaker 3: get your wisdom teeth out before you, like what are 1209 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:45,719 Speaker 3: we doing? 1210 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,799 Speaker 5: Like what are we doing here? 1211 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,320 Speaker 4: Dude? Like how do you schedule this in this season. 1212 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,799 Speaker 3: Before you have to play this like huge game on 1213 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 3: the road against the Buffalo Bills. And you're like, yeah, I'm 1214 00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,400 Speaker 3: gonna get my wizard teeth out this week? 1215 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 4: Like what? 1216 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,920 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I've had my wisdom teeth remove before. 1217 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 2: It's not fun. I say, it sucks terrible. 1218 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:11,520 Speaker 1: On the Erics, And I do recall I think it 1219 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 1: was earlier this summer that you fought through you had 1220 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,799 Speaker 1: like some kind of dental procedure and we recorded the 1221 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 1: next morning and you were powering through. 1222 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:21,280 Speaker 2: Am I remembering that correctly? 1223 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:21,759 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1224 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,560 Speaker 3: But then all the YouTube comments that I looked really 1225 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,399 Speaker 3: depressed and look, I didn't want to be there. 1226 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,920 Speaker 4: So maybe we're gonna get the A. J. 1227 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,720 Speaker 3: Brown book game because he's gonna be out there grabbing 1228 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,120 Speaker 3: his mouth be like, oh man, my mouth hurts. 1229 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 4: Just who signed off on this? But oh yeah, just 1230 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 4: get your wisdom teeth out Christmas week. I mean you 1231 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,279 Speaker 4: got on Christmas Eve? Like, what's going on? 1232 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 5: Dude? That is just same. 1233 00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 1: AJ Brown looks depressed every game he plays with Jalen hurts. 1234 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,000 Speaker 1: So I don't know how we'll be able to tell 1235 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,759 Speaker 1: the difference here, all right, fancy to be like better 1236 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,080 Speaker 1: Tyler Warren or Dallas Goddard. 1237 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 5: Dallas Goddard. I know the volume was there. My son 1238 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,640 Speaker 5: had Tyler Warren in a semi final game last week, 1239 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,760 Speaker 5: and he needed I think like four and a half 1240 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 5: PPR points out of Tyler Warren to win, and he 1241 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 5: sweated that one out until like garbage time. Like Tyler 1242 00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,600 Speaker 5: Warren didn't get across the finish line format four and 1243 00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 5: a half PPR points until late And Warren has had 1244 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 5: thirty or fewer receiving yards in four straight games, and 1245 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 5: he's only scored one touchdown in his last eight games, 1246 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 5: like Dallas Goddard has ten touchdowns. And I know the 1247 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:33,040 Speaker 5: Bills smother tight ends, but the tush pushes now pass 1248 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,640 Speaker 5: a and the Eagles favorite play near the goal line 1249 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 5: is that little shovel pass to Dallas Goddard. So I'm 1250 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,760 Speaker 5: hoping we get one of those, and I'll take that 1251 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,360 Speaker 5: over Tyler Warren, who's just kind of fizzled down the stretch. Here. 1252 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 1: Say goodbye to start sit dilemmas. With Fantasy Pro, Start 1253 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,400 Speaker 1: Sit Assistant. Within seconds, you'll know exactly who to play 1254 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 1: for optimal results each and every week. 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Weekly 1264 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 1: winners get a twenty five dollars Fantasy Pros gift card, 1265 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 1: and the season champ takes home a signed b Jon 1266 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 1: Robinson Jersey. Play now by going to Fantasypros dot Com 1267 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 1: slash chat and heading to the Touchdown Calls channel. Guys, 1268 00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,600 Speaker 1: we are doing a running back, receiver, and tight end 1269 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,320 Speaker 1: as always ericson who do you have at running back? 1270 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 3: Ashton Genty's gonna score this week against the New York 1271 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 3: Giants in pursuit of one thousand rushing yards. He's actually 1272 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 3: closing it out one thousand rushing yards after that big 1273 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 3: games to Houston Texans. Two games left, so hopefully you 1274 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,440 Speaker 3: can get over the one k mark for his rookie season. 1275 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,040 Speaker 2: Ashton Genty for ericson fits, who. 1276 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,320 Speaker 5: Do you have at receiver Drake London against the Rams 1277 00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,800 Speaker 5: on Monday nights. And yes, I'm trying to speak this 1278 00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 5: in new existence because I'm starting Drake London in two 1279 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 5: championship games. 1280 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,040 Speaker 4: How many Drake London teams are you facing? Though? You 1281 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:07,680 Speaker 4: gotta check that. 1282 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:12,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think I'm going against him in any 1283 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:13,400 Speaker 5: league this week. 1284 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 1: That is a nice part about only having two teams 1285 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,240 Speaker 1: left is a Lave and Puka are the only players 1286 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 1: that like have in one facing in the other. Because 1287 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,480 Speaker 1: when you have you know, fourteen leagues or whatever you 1288 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,640 Speaker 1: know it's been for most of the season, you get 1289 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 1: a lot of that. It is nice to simplify from 1290 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,560 Speaker 1: that perspective. I'm sure it's more difficult for you Fits, 1291 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,160 Speaker 1: but that's very much a first world problem with seven 1292 00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 1: teams in the Championship. So jant for ericson Drake London 1293 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 1: for Fits, I'm at tight end. 1294 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:42,120 Speaker 2: We are not overthinking it. 1295 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 1: This is the final time I have to pick a 1296 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 1: tight end for this year in this touchdown calls contest. 1297 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 1: I don't think I've gotten a single tight end right. 1298 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,400 Speaker 1: Hopefully I'm not putting that bad juju on Trey McBride. 1299 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,800 Speaker 1: Just the no brainer of all no brainers. McBride facing 1300 00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 1: this Bengals defense, so we're going with him. Jent, London 1301 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 1: and McBride are our three touchdown calls for the week. 1302 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 1: You could dominate your fantasy football league with Fantasy Pros Premium, 1303 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,160 Speaker 1: now available free for six months when you deposit and 1304 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,640 Speaker 1: place your first wager on one of our partner sportsbooks. 1305 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,560 Speaker 1: This is the easiest way to get full access to 1306 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,560 Speaker 1: our top fantasy tools all season long. Go to fantasypros 1307 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,360 Speaker 1: dot com slash Premium to get started. Ericson before we 1308 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,920 Speaker 1: get out of here, any kind of like hype up 1309 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 1: for anybody. I mean, this is the Fantasy Championship, right, 1310 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:25,760 Speaker 1: like any kind of pep talk you want to give 1311 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,200 Speaker 1: to our listeners here before the rest of the late kicksoff. 1312 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:34,320 Speaker 3: Trust the process you got here, grinding sixteen weeks of 1313 01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,960 Speaker 3: the season, not letting your emotions get in the way, 1314 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:38,920 Speaker 3: because as we all know, this isn't a very emotional 1315 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 3: game that we play, and sixteen weeks of tilting. Hey, 1316 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 3: it all pays off if you come on with that championship. 1317 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,160 Speaker 3: So yeah, let's go, baby. 1318 01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,480 Speaker 1: If it's any final words of wisdom here, yeah, that's it. 1319 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,800 Speaker 5: I mean, there can be a lot of variants in 1320 01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,720 Speaker 5: a single week of fantasy football, and the best teams 1321 01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 5: are not always going to win this week. But every year, 1322 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 5: all you can you do is just you know, maximize 1323 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 5: your probability and you know, just keep keep getting to 1324 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,000 Speaker 5: the doorstep and if you're playing this week, you are 1325 01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:14,080 Speaker 5: on the doorstep, just keep knocking. Eventually that doors can open. 1326 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,120 Speaker 1: All tics is winning one week. I have a team 1327 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,920 Speaker 1: that's not very good, clear underdog. But you never any 1328 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,400 Speaker 1: individual week, anything can happen. So dare I say any 1329 01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,960 Speaker 1: given Sunday any some some would or any given Thursday 1330 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:28,760 Speaker 1: slash Saturday slash Sunday. 1331 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,680 Speaker 4: Slash or whatever the NFL plays every single day. 1332 01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, best of luck to everybody. We will have programming 1333 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,240 Speaker 1: next week. It'll obviously look different because we're eighteen, you know, 1334 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,960 Speaker 1: people don't have championships. Typically, we'll have some version versions 1335 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,680 Speaker 1: of shows going into next week and beyond. This is 1336 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,440 Speaker 1: the last edition of this particular show for the season, 1337 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,760 Speaker 1: So thanks everybody for tuning into this show all year long. 1338 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:50,400 Speaker 2: Again, There'll be more programming next. 1339 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 1: Week, you know, We'll we'll have shows for you, just 1340 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,280 Speaker 1: looking a little bit different for Ericson and Jake who's 1341 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,520 Speaker 1: been on the show all year and fits I'm Ron 1342 01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:58,720 Speaker 1: warmly thanks for tuning in. 1343 01:01:58,840 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 2: We'll see you next time. 1344 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Football podcast. 1345 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 1: If you love the show, the best freeway to support 1346 01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,320 Speaker 1: us is by leaving a positive review on Apple podcasts 1347 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:13,360 Speaker 1: at Fantasypros dot com, slash review, or on Spotify. 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