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Speaker 1: At least. He's The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Nation Radio. Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here

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Speaker 1: with Matt Williamson. It's a lovely Wednesday here in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: The rain is kind of pushed out of the area

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Speaker 1: yesterday with yeah, a lot of storms. This was my

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Speaker 1: kid's last day though, so it's like officially summer in

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Speaker 1: the Williamson household. I mean it feels like it. It's hot,

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Speaker 1: it's yeah, right, right, and the Steelers are are still

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Speaker 1: working on their tas they get though. Well, they have

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Speaker 1: two left that they can do. What they typically do

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Speaker 1: is they'll practice tomorrow and then on Friday, Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 1: will do something fun with him. Yeah something, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: just kind of a little team building exercise, and it's

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Speaker 1: worked well in the past. I think it's a uh

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Speaker 1: like they should be working. Then I knows the grindstone

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Speaker 1: that is a version of working. I mean, you're building

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Speaker 1: a team, you're building a camaraderie, you're building the rapport

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Speaker 1: among the guys. You know, Um, it matters both on

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of value to that stuff.

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Speaker 1: I mean, your your goal is to win football games,

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Speaker 1: and the best way to do that is function as

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Speaker 1: a team. And I think you know, knowing the people

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Speaker 1: around you better as in any walk of life or

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Speaker 1: job is very useful. Yeah. So one of the guys

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Speaker 1: who we know will be on well at least he

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Speaker 1: signed to be on the team not only this year

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Speaker 1: but next year. And he's the only quarterback who that

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Speaker 1: is the case for is Mason Rudolph. And we spoke

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Speaker 1: and Mason, um Well, I asked him directly, I said,

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Speaker 1: did you look at the contract extension as a vote

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Speaker 1: of confidence in in in you? And I thought his

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Speaker 1: answer was pretty good about that. Let's hear from Mason

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Speaker 1: Rudolph right now. And they gave you some They give

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Speaker 1: you a new contract this offseason. Um, you're the only

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Speaker 1: quarterback under contract for next year? Did that take alleviate

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Speaker 1: a little of the I don't know if pressure is

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Speaker 1: the right where, but it did it? Did it alleviate

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Speaker 1: or ease your mind a little bit? That that got

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's always good. Um, you get the

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Speaker 1: vote of confidence from your your team, and um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think, uh, still my outlook, my approach has proved

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Speaker 1: myself every single day, whether that's in an O t

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Speaker 1: A when really we're only doing seven on seven live, well,

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Speaker 1: that's in training camp throughout the season. So as and

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Speaker 1: change my mindset, obviously, it's it's about a confidence. It's uh,

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Speaker 1: it's encouraging. And in pittsburghs a place where I want

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Speaker 1: that was exciting, but it doesn't change my approach. Yeah, Mason,

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Speaker 1: they brought in a new quarterbacks coach with Mike Sullivan.

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Speaker 1: You know you had that Canada last year. You learned

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Speaker 1: about maybe what you can learn for Mike Sullivan and

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Speaker 1: the kind of coaching differences between him and Matt Canada,

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Speaker 1: And how can that help you grow in this season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a good question. I think. Uh, you know, Mike's

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Speaker 1: a long time NFL coach, has been in the league

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Speaker 1: been great with Mike. Um. You know, I think, uh,

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Speaker 1: great because we we all appreciate that. And uh, but

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Speaker 1: forward to continue to work with him. Joe Roger, when

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Speaker 1: It wasn't the whole package. It wasn't a whole um.

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Speaker 1: You know, the the entire offense was not in last year,

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Speaker 1: but basic terminology was there, and I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: same terminology with with the exception of adding a couple

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Speaker 1: up a little bit. But um, it's it's been fun

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Speaker 1: and Matt's got a lot of great concepts. He's bringing

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Speaker 1: a lot of energy to our offense. He's very detailed,

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Speaker 1: us you know, direct answers Will Graves. Yeah, Mason, I

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Speaker 1: mean in this discussion with the Steelers, were you did

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Speaker 1: you approach them about something more than just one year?

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Speaker 1: That's the first question. The second one is based on

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Speaker 1: you didn't play a lot last year until week's seventeen,

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Speaker 1: But does that prove that you don't necessarily have to

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Speaker 1: obviously you performed very well now last week. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm not out of respect to Steelers. I'm not going

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Speaker 1: but I will say that, you know, speaking last year,

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Speaker 1: a lot of, you know, positives to move forward from Markabolimason,

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Speaker 1: I think you've touched down a little bit. But you're

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Speaker 1: thought I heard enough. You know, lack of cohesion with

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Speaker 1: he's really heavy with footwork, fundamentals, drills. Then I don't

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Speaker 1: know Mason Rudolph, but kind of being around him and

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Speaker 1: and traded for Carson Wentz. But the backups are Jacobieson,

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Speaker 1: sam Isling, Ellinger and Jalen Morton. Easton's a big, strong

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Speaker 1: pocket passer, you know, like a the dude from Florida

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Speaker 1: that went to Tampa this year. We'll get to him. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that type of player that suits the league twenty years

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Speaker 1: ago more than now. I didn't like him much coming

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Speaker 1: out of school for those reasons. But maybe if we

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Speaker 1: saw a whole preseason, let's get in the ben with

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Speaker 1: the doubt. If we would have seen his preseason last year,

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Speaker 1: we might be like, Okay, you know there's something there.

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Speaker 1: But as your primary backup is the number one backup,

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Speaker 1: and he didn't get that pretty season and they had money,

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Speaker 1: they had money, Like, okay, Teddy Bridgewater there would make

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Speaker 1: a lot of sense keep her set or keep perset. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he didn't have to get rid of him. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if Wentz is a disaster, which is right, Brissette made

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Speaker 1: a lot of sense to me to keep Wentz and

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Speaker 1: Brissette and even have Easton sitting there. Take it. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville has Gardner, Minshew and C. J. Bethard behind Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: That's not bad. I say, that's pretty good. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: would rather have men showed than Rudolf. Yeah, he's not

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Speaker 1: super gifted, but I think he's I was people ask

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Speaker 1: me about Minshew. I think he's gonna have a Ryan

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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick like career, a little bit kind of flamboyant. Teammates

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Speaker 1: love him, but you know, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: isn't quite good enough. Uh. Kansas City behind Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: has Chad Henny, Anthony Gordon, Shane Bushell. It is horrible, really,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Henny, Henny could not be any different than right,

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Speaker 1: Henny must be just like a quarterback coach. Quarter I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's been around forever. He's the new match job. Remember

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Speaker 1: him coming out of school. I mean I was a pit.

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Speaker 1: I mean, anyone that qualifies for that is old. Him

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Speaker 1: and Anthony Morelli were the same year coming out of

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Speaker 1: two top P eight quarterbacks. I mean, if Homes, some

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Speaker 1: people take the logic of if Mahomes just hurts our

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Speaker 1: seasons over anyways, you know he's but if he misses

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Speaker 1: three games, your season can't be over. You can't use yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can't lose all three games. The Chargers behind Justin

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Speaker 1: Herbert have Chase Daniel and Easton Stick. Easton sticks not awful,

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Speaker 1: I mean, but Chase Daniels. He's the five million dollar

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Speaker 1: a year, gonna retire with eighty million in the bank

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Speaker 1: and played ten snaps a year. You know, he's the

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Speaker 1: poster boy for those guys. The Rams have John Wolford,

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Speaker 1: Bryce Perkins, Devlin Hodges behind. I know, no one's heard

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Speaker 1: of any of those but Wolford. Maybe it just goes

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Speaker 1: to show how much they hated golf last year. But

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Speaker 1: they were kind of pushing Woolford, Wafford, Wofford in for

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Speaker 1: over golf in those playoff games and played a little

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Speaker 1: is a good athlete, but who knows The Raiders behind

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Speaker 1: Derek carrv Marcus Mariotta and Nate Peterman that's not that's

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Speaker 1: probably still in the league. That might be one of

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Speaker 1: the better backup situations in the league. Though. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: a Mariota fan. I'd have him start over handful of teams,

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Speaker 1: and I would rather have him in Mariota or the

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Speaker 1: than Rudolph Um. The fact that Nate Peterman's in the

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Speaker 1: league speaks a lot about the backup situation. And wow,

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Speaker 1: Miami has Hucoby per set behind. Yeah, that's pretty good. Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: there's primary backups behind Kirk Cousins, Kellen Mond, who was

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Speaker 1: a third round draft pick this year. And I commend

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Speaker 1: them for at least taking a swing there. Jake Browning,

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Speaker 1: Nate Stanley, those If Kirk Cousins gets hurt, their seasons

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Speaker 1: over over. Yeah, but it also wouldn't shock me of

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Speaker 1: two years from now we're talking about, well, let's hand

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Speaker 1: it over to Mond and we're done giving Kirk thirty

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Speaker 1: five million a year or whatever or somebody else. Uh.

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Speaker 1: New England you have Mac Jones, Jarrett Stidham, Brian Hoyer

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Speaker 1: beyond Cam Newton could be reversed there, who knows. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they've got I'll take that backup situation. They've got four

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Speaker 1: and they they don't necessarily have a starter, no, but

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Speaker 1: sooner or later it's going to be the first round pick.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of the same thing in New Orleans where

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Speaker 1: you have Taysom Hill Jamis winston Ian book and Trevor

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Speaker 1: Simeon the book pick makes no sense. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: only in the fourth round. You got to throw the

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Speaker 1: ball very well either, Yeah, I mean, and thus they're

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Speaker 1: checking him as another, you know, younger version of Taysom Hill.

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Speaker 1: We really like having that. I think that's the way

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Speaker 1: they look at him, but which is stupid. It makes

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Speaker 1: no sense to made have MANI picks. That's the waisted

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Speaker 1: one to me. The Giants behind Daniel Jones have Mike

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Speaker 1: Glennon and Clayton Thorson. I mean, I'd rather have Rudolph,

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Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but Glennon is gonna last in

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Speaker 1: this league. This one might be the worst in the league.

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Speaker 1: The Jets, Yeah, it's really bad. Zach Wilson's a starter,

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Speaker 1: never started the game in the NFL, backed up by

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Speaker 1: James Morgan and Mike White. It's awful. I mean, and

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Speaker 1: they had money. Yeah, it'd be nice to have the

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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick type, you know, with two of struggles of Wilson struggle.

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Speaker 1: Who's talking to who's talking Wilson down off the ledge? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not even sure Um Flacco is that guy.

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Speaker 1: But maybe keep Flacco for another year at least have

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Speaker 1: a veteran somewhere around. I mean, that's a young group

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Speaker 1: to Speaking of Flacco, get the Eagles and he's the

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Speaker 1: number one back up there with Jamie Newman also on

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Speaker 1: the roster, and that's very much the square peg in

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Speaker 1: a round. Could not be any different than Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 1: and Newman's at least similar. I mean, I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: exactly why he wasn't drafted, but he's talented and you

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Speaker 1: know he's an athlete. Seattle, they always stink at this.

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Speaker 1: Behind Gino behind Wilson Russell Wilson is Gino Smith, Danny

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Speaker 1: Eitling and Alex McGough McGoo. Gino is another one's gonna

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Speaker 1: last forever for whatever reason. So you had a never

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Speaker 1: uses picks on quarterbacks. The forty Niners behind Jimmy g

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Speaker 1: have Trade Lands, Josh Rosen, Nate Sudfeld. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: Jimmy G is gonna be the backup at some point

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Speaker 1: or elsewhere. And then you know, those kind of teams

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Speaker 1: don't really count. Tampa Bay behind Tom Brady has Blaine

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Speaker 1: Gabbert and Kyle Trask. Blaine Gabbert Shure seems like a

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Speaker 1: left witch arians Brady. He's washing all their cars or something.

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Speaker 1: He's got a career set for him, and I'd give

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Speaker 1: him credit. They didn't didn't need anything, so they took

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Speaker 1: us a swing on Trask idother Rootolf of the trash though. Yeah. Um.

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Speaker 1: The Titans Logan Woodside and Deshaun Kaiser behind Ryan Tanny.

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Speaker 1: That's bad. I mean, I'll come clean. I liked guys

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Speaker 1: are coming out of school and thought he really got

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Speaker 1: a raw deal with the Browns. But that ship sailed

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Speaker 1: three years ago. And then finally the Washington football team

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Speaker 1: behind Fitzpatrick, Fitzpatrick has Taylor Heineke, Kyle Allen, Stephen Montez.

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Speaker 1: I like um pini Key. It's a small sample size

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Speaker 1: and it's a recent taste in your mouth type of thing.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I trade Rudolf for them though. And

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Speaker 1: if it's they're gonna need, they're gonna be as as

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Speaker 1: quarterback needy as a Steelers, if not more after this season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's no, He's not the long term stuff. There's no

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Speaker 1: none there. But interesting when you when you look at

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Speaker 1: from that perspective, like everybody's saying, the Steelers quarterback room

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Speaker 1: is a mess, it's it's really not. It really isn't.

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Speaker 1: And I bring this up a lot, you know, this

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Speaker 1: time of year. Every year. One of my projects with

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Speaker 1: ESPN rank the one to thirty two the backup quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in the league. It is eye opening. I mean you

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Speaker 1: go through those from fifteen down or I mean not

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Speaker 1: good football players, and Rudolf's probably in the top ten.

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Speaker 1: I say he's probably eight in the top twelve. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Mariota types, you take over them all day long.

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Speaker 1: They have some starters, you know, some starter battles that

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Speaker 1: you look at the summer account. The loser that's gonna be,

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Speaker 1: like the Niners shouldn't count, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: In Chicago's teams like that, do you know that they're

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Speaker 1: a guy coming up? Because obviously you'd rather have trade

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Speaker 1: Lance than Mason Rudolph, you know, but or Jimmy for

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Speaker 1: that matter. But yeah, it's a bad group. It's just yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, unless he gets injured, I bet

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Speaker 1: Rudolph plays ten years in this league. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think that's a very safe bed. And he's a lot

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Speaker 1: better than a lot of those guys as well as,

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Speaker 1: if not better than the backups that are on that list. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mentioned that Henny came out of high

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Speaker 1: school when I was recruiting. Hoyer did too. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's lasted a long time. Rudolph could easily be those guys,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and probably better when it's all said and

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Speaker 1: done career wise. But interesting, we're gonna take a break.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna end it for this segment. So for my

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Speaker 1: partner Matt Williamson, for Jacob here on side, keeping us

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Speaker 1: on the air, I'm d. L. Lelli. We thank you

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