1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: The volume. The Colin Cowherd Podcast brought to you by 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Fan Duel. It's never been easier to play fantasy on 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Fan Duel. Whether you love basketball, golf, soccer, or any 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: fantasy sport. There is a contest for every fan Fan 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: Duel more ways to win. Hi, everybody, Welcome to the 6 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: Wednesday Morning Podcast. My buddy Mike Silver has all sorts 7 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: of NFL notes. I got a comment on the Lakers, 8 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: who are apparently now run by Lebron James. So the 9 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: average age of an NBA player is twenty six, the 10 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: Lakers average now is closer to thirty three. So they 11 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: add Carmelo Anthony to Dwight Howard, to Lebron James, to 12 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: Trevor a Reason to Russell Westbrook. Those thirty eight in November, 13 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: Dwight's thirty six in December. Trevor Ariza just turned thirty six. 14 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: They were the oldest team in the NBA last year. 15 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: And I don't want to hear about Kendrick Nunn. The 16 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: Warriors had him in their G league and let him go. 17 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: Pat Riley let him go. Bob Myers and pat Riley 18 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: are two the smartest guys in the NBA. They both had. 19 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: Kendrick Nunn. He's essentially a younger Dion Waiters. He's not 20 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: a catch and shoot guy. He's highly erratic. Pat Riley 21 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: and Spoelstra Let Kendrick Nunn go. I don't want to 22 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: hear about Malik Monk. You really think next June this 23 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: is going to be the headline Malik Monk leads the 24 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: Lakers to the title. This team is old, and by 25 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: the way, I love veteran players, but the Milwaukee Bucks 26 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: last year, we're twenty seven and a half years old. 27 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: Jannis is twenty six, Chris Middleton twenty nine, Bobby Portis 28 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: twenty six, Pat Connington twenty eight. You gotta have some youth. 29 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: Malik Monk is not going to get a lot of 30 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: minutes in playoff games. Kendrick Nunn is Dion Waiters. He's 31 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: one of those sort of give him the ball and 32 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: let him go, and he can occasionally get really hot. 33 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: You think Lebron's going to allow that in big playoff spots. 34 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: This team is not as good defensively as they were 35 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: a year ago, okay, and they don't really have guys 36 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: who are going to get big minutes in playoff games 37 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: and hit big shots, So you know, I feel like 38 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: with Lebron James, there's always been this sort of theory 39 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: that Lebron will make it work. I think he could 40 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: for the first fifteen years of his career. I don't 41 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: think that's as easy to do now. And by the way, 42 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: I could argue the Lakers don't have a single elite 43 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: player in their prime. The Bucks won Jannis in his prime, 44 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: Middleton in their prime. You cannot tell me Anthony Davis 45 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: is in his prime. It's year ten. His injuries now 46 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: are pilot up. He's not out of his prime by much, 47 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: but I'd make an argument he does not have another 48 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: ten years. I'd make an argument he'll be an eroding 49 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: player within two years. Anthony Davis has had too many 50 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: injuries and they're now happening on a more consistent basis. 51 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: This is an old basketball team, and Kendrick Nunn and 52 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: Malik Monk aren't the answer to the finals. They're not 53 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: going to get big minutes in a playoff series. There's 54 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: no way Lebron would trust either in a big spot. 55 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: It's an interesting team, it's a weird roster. It's an 56 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: antique store. I'll watch, but with some skepticism. All right, 57 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: bringing to my buddy Mike Silver. You've seen him for 58 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: years Sports Illustrated, Yahoo Pass It Down podcast with his 59 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: daughter Natalie. Been covering this stuff for a long time. 60 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's start. You were at Niners practice yesterday 61 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: and the stories the last forty eight hours on Trey 62 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: Lance are he is tearing it up. You know, it's funny. 63 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: So a couple of years ago, people were hot and 64 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: cold on Justin Herbert, and I remember telling a general manager, Okay, 65 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: that's the best Wisconsin defense in my adult life. He 66 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: goes to the Rose Bowl, he runs for three touchdowns, 67 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: he spins the ball over the field. He was easily 68 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: the best player at the Senior Bowl. And I'm like, 69 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: when you can be sometimes watch the game and go 70 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: who's the best player? And when I watched Trey Lance, 71 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: and I said this on the air, I don't have 72 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: enough video, but the games that he played, his team 73 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: was better. He was so much better athletically than everybody else. 74 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: I don't need all the measurables, like there are guys 75 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: sometimes you watch and go whoa Justin Herbert simply better 76 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: than everybody on the field, And Oregon and Wisconsin a 77 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: NFL players. So I'm not shocked that Trey Lance is 78 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: like athletically is popping. Are you surprised how quickly for 79 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: a guy that's played one football game in two years 80 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: he's adjusted. Well, it's practice. So you know, we could 81 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: have said anything we wanted about Justin Herbert a year ago, 82 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: but until he, with three seconds notice, jumped into that 83 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: game and falled out against the Chiefs, right, and you know, 84 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: then we were like wait, and then he did it again, 85 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: and you know, yeah, it was very clear, but you know, 86 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: you never know. And that's Justin Herbert, who, as you said, 87 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: was playing against a great Wisconsin defense and future NFL players. 88 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: Trey Lance not his fault, but he was playing against 89 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: like guys who are going to be you know, working 90 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: at you know, the insurance agency or you know, the 91 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: mom and pop shot telling their kids, yeah, I've played 92 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: with the that guy who's in the NFL. You know, 93 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: not a lot of future NFL players that he played 94 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: against or with. And you combine that with the small 95 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: amount of games he played, and again, not his fault. 96 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: Last year, they only played the one for obvious COVID 97 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: challenged reasons, and the year before it was really his 98 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: only year and the small school part of it. So 99 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: he's raw. He is a guy who not doesn't just 100 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: pop athletically, but his intelligence and composure and all those 101 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: other things were eye popping to them. They were like, whoa, 102 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: this guy is really mature, really together, really smart. Importantly 103 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: for that system odd year, and that every quarterback I 104 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: heard about up at the top was viewed as smart 105 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: by the way. Usually many years it's like, ah, that 106 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: guy's he's okay, he's not a rocket scientist. But you know, 107 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: this year they thought, you know, the teams thought all 108 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: these guys were smart. By the way, Mike, I have 109 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: a theory behind this is you're getting more of that. 110 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: The reason is they're all coming into the league now 111 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: with one hundred thousand snaps, quarterback camps, quarterback coaches. I 112 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: talked to Drew Bledsoe, He's like, I had twenty eight 113 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: starts by the time I got it, like the college. Like, 114 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: the bottom line is, these kids can read a defense now. 115 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: Sophomore year of high school, they watch NFL film, they 116 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: watched the twenty two film. These guys are all smarter now. 117 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: It's possible. But the trends started this year because in 118 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: each previous year. I could tell you at least one 119 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: or two people in the cycle who wasn't like, all 120 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: these guys are done. But it wasn't the trait that 121 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: popped to many talent evaluators. They could have been wrong, 122 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: by the way, but okay, so that's the that's the 123 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 1: exciting part about Trey Lance. He is raw, and so 124 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: when they took him and didn't take mac Jones or 125 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: Justin Fields, they clearly were saying, look, we're comfortable not 126 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: throwing him in right away, because most NFL teams would say, 127 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: a perfect world, you'd wait a year with Trey Lance. Now, 128 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: if he really is that good at practice, and we 129 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: don't always know because we don't know what the red 130 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: is and all that, but if he really is picking 131 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: it up that quickly, then that doesn't matter. They went 132 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: into this camp as a coaching staff with this belief 133 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: the best thing for us would be and the worst 134 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: thing for opposing defensive coordinators would be Jimmy wins the job. 135 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: Legitimately he starts, he stays healthy and plays well, and 136 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: we have a tray Lance package every game that we 137 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: can throw at people and they have to prepare for 138 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: and the athleticism alone is going to freak people out. 139 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: So that's what the ideal scenario is for them. But 140 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: if Trey Lance just clearly looks better, or if Jimmy 141 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: is losing or not play well or injured, all of 142 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: which could happen, then you're going to see it. So 143 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: if Trey really chops it up, yeah, and Garoppolo plays well, 144 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: Mike in September and they say to themselves, shit, Trey 145 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: is ready to play. And this is not a quarterback 146 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: centric offense, right, this is not this is not Kansas City. 147 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: And you look at it and you think, this team's desperate, 148 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: This team's desperate, this team's desperate, and somebody makes them 149 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: a first round pick offer. My contention is or a starter. 150 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: I think it's possible Garoppolo gets moved if Trey chops 151 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: it up. Well, i think it's possible Garoppolo gets moved 152 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: if Trey doesn't chop it up, because the offer could 153 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: come right now. I mean, Chris Ballard could have called 154 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: John Lynch, you know, the day that Carson's foot, you know, 155 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: the severity of it became known to him, and he 156 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: could have said, I'll give you a one for Jimmy 157 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: and they might have done the cost benefit said we'll 158 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: do that. So you know, we saw that. Remember, you 159 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: know the Eagles were going to keep Sam Bradford and 160 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: when Wentz was a rookie, but then Teddy Bridgewater got 161 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: hurt and the Vikings were like, oh, we'll give you 162 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: a one, and they were like a one for Sam Bradford. Yes, 163 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: and they obviously had liked what they'd seen of what 164 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: so that could happen. I went into the twenty nineteen 165 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: season saying something that looked bad in retrospect, but I 166 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: will stand by it. And I said going into twenty nineteen, 167 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: they're at the point with Jimmy Garoppolo where if he 168 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: either doesn't play well or isn't winning or is banged up, 169 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: they will play Nick Mullins. That's how they felt after 170 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: two years of losing in a year that they knew 171 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: they had to win now. He didn't play well in 172 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: the first game against Tampa, but they won. After that, 173 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: he played better. They won I think their first eight 174 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: games that year with an incredible team effort, and he stayed. Hell, 175 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: they obviously got to the super Bowl, so in retrospect 176 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: it looks silly. Mike Silver was saying Nick Mullins might 177 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: replaced Jimmy Garoppolo, but Jimmy made it look silly and 178 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: he stayed healthy and the rest of the team obviously 179 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: they were a beast. So I would say it's the 180 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: same thing, and it usually is when a quarterback has 181 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: drafted that high. You know, Andy Dalton, Justin Fields, same thing. Yeah, 182 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton's the guy. But if he isn't playing great, 183 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: or the team isn't winning, or he gets banged up 184 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: slash injured, you're gonna see Justin Fields. So with all 185 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: of that said, how Trey Lance looks to them and 186 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: how they perceive it will factor into that calculation about 187 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: whether to trade Jimmy. But I do think it's more 188 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: what you said. It's not where trading Jimmy, Okay, anyone 189 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: wanted him. It's when that call comes, and it could 190 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: come now, or it could come when you know a 191 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: team in September loses a guy. Then you go, okay, 192 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: cost benefit, we could play this k now and we'll 193 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: get this or you know what, it's too important. We 194 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: need Jimmy hare right now because we think we can 195 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: win it now. And remember Alex Smith. Kaepernick was a 196 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: similar dynamic there. Alex Smith played almost a perfect game, 197 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: and I think a perfect it was like twenty two 198 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: of twenty three, but suffered a concussion. They had to 199 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: turn it around four days later and play on Thursday night. 200 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: I went to that game against the Bears. Kaepernick, you know, 201 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: just look different and better and more athletic and took 202 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: the job. Pivot to the Colts. So I watched Jacob 203 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: Beeson play a lot in college because he played at 204 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: the University of Washington. He went to Georgia, He's from 205 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: the state of Washington, got beat out by Jake from 206 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: who they said just learned the system sooner quicker upstairs. 207 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: He's more cognitively capable of learning the Georgia's system fast. 208 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 1: Jacobson goes back to the state of Washington. The Huskies, 209 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 1: big strong kid, big arm my knocking him with Chris 210 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: Peterson was He was great on scripted plays, very good 211 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: in the first half. When asked after half to be 212 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: off script situations where judgment he's making a play in 213 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: his own he makes really bad throws and his judgment 214 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: is really really at times iffy. NFL games much faster. 215 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: I remember having a conversation with a scout. I was 216 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: at a practice and there was a scout there and 217 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: he knew I was from the Pacific Northwest, and I said, 218 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: I said, his arm makes him a great backup. But 219 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: I just saw him at Washington too many times with 220 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: a great coach, Chris Peterson. And if you if you 221 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: ask him, and this is the league now off script, 222 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: make a play. I don't trust him. So you spent 223 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: some time with him before the twenty twenty combine, what 224 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: did you hear? I just don't think he's a viable alternative. 225 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. He's had some real struggles early in camp. 226 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: What is your takeaway on the Colts feeling on him? 227 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: And you're feeling on him, well, great question. I did 228 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: spend some time with him kind of right before the 229 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: world shut down in twenty twenty. I liked him. I 230 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: could understand, you know, I understand what you're saying about. 231 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: You know, physically he I saw him throw, you know, 232 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: it's very eye catching and like, WHOA, this is a 233 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: guy right? So yes, and he did. I thought he 234 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: might go a little higher in the draft because of that. 235 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: He didn't. Now it really hurt him and Jordan Love 236 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: and every single guy from that draft that there was 237 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: no real off season, right, there was no off season, 238 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: there was no preseason. So normally you'd say, well, they've 239 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: had him for a year. They know a little bit, 240 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: but they know less than they otherwise would, just like 241 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: the Packers though less about Jordan Love than they otherwise would. 242 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: Of course, you know the Justin Herberts of the world. Yeah, 243 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: we know, we know, we know very glaringly. But you know, 244 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: it a quarterback who never sniffed the field as a 245 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: rookie last year. Jordan loved jacobieson we are It's a 246 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: it's it's a tougher thing to evaluate, even internally. Now, 247 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: Chris Ballard did the math on this. They had Jacoby 248 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: Brissette last year. He's had kind of a backup plan 249 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: each year in theory. This year his plan was, we're 250 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: going with Carson Wentz, who, yes, Frank Reik knows him 251 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: and has a comfort zone, but has been hurt a ton. 252 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: So it's not far fetched to believe that Carson Wentz 253 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: could be injured. So he felt comfortable saying, my backup 254 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: plan is this kid. So we're gonna see, right, and 255 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: you know, they nothing precludes them from doing something between 256 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: now and the start of the season, including Hey Philip, 257 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: we love you man or Hey Andrew, how much do 258 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: you wear right now? 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They're gonna give sometimes to 301 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: justify them. Yeah, you're right, yes, yes. So I remember 302 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones first camp with the Giants, and there was 303 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: a lot of skepticism about him as a number six pick, 304 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: and suddenly there were leaks from the Giants camp slow 305 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: mo videos of Daniel Jones making wonderful throws and it 306 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 1: was like nobody had video and it was leaking out 307 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: and I'm like it slow mo and the throws were great. 308 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,719 Speaker 1: And I remember at the time, you know, I'd been 309 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: at Fox couple years and I was talking to a 310 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: producer there and I'm like, this is so transparent and 311 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: orchestrated because they everybody is so down on him, They're 312 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: just leaking this stuff. So some of the stuff I'm 313 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: seeing from Tuah and the Dolphins feels like, oh, any 314 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: good throw, it gets social media within thirty seconds. But 315 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: what do you know. My takeaway is I've just seen this. 316 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: I know the game, Like like Tuah once a day, 317 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: a great video will come out and be like, Okay, 318 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: why that video come out? That's a that's an interesting 319 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: video the Dolphins released. They definitely want us to think 320 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: that two is getting better. They want TWA to think 321 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: he's getting better. They want the people in the huddle 322 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: to think he's getting better. But you're right, we're we're 323 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: not gonna know, and so listen, it's just human nature. 324 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: And they can say, oh, that's just media noise, it's not. 325 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: And I love Chris Greer. If Chris Greer and Brian 326 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: Flores are sitting there last year and they're like, yeah, 327 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: our guy, he's young, he's coming along. We had to 328 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: pull him out of some games that were importing to 329 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: us and throw Ryan Fitzpatrick in because he's better now. 330 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: But you know, we really believe in this kid. Wait 331 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: what did just to Herbert just do? Like whoa Like 332 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: it's just it's human nature, Like you could have had 333 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: that guy, but you took this guy. How do they 334 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: compare from the jump? Not well for you? Now, that 335 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: doesn't mean too I can't get better or doesn't mean 336 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: you you know, hate the fact that you picked him. 337 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: But you're watching this, you know revelatory guy, look like 338 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: he's just born to do it, and he's and I don't. 339 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to, you know, I want to underscore 340 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: the fact that he that first game where we all 341 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: went and then he built on it, he had no prep. 342 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn told me that, you know, the the Chargers 343 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: team doctors who might have been like doctor Bombay from 344 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: Bewitched for you old people. They were like, hey, Tarad, 345 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: let's give you a little shot there. Oh, we just 346 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: puncture your lung. We're so sorry. You better go to 347 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: this ambulance right now and make sure you don't, you know, 348 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: have something horrible happened to you. And as that was 349 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: going on, like it's like and the Home of the Break. 350 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 1: I don't know if they do flyovers there, but like 351 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: all that's going on, and finally Anthony went sister Justin Herbert, 352 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: who's pretty young and still doesn't know. He goes, hey, 353 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: you're starting, and Justin kind of gives him the laugh 354 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: like haha, and Anthony goes, no, seriously, dude, you're the 355 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: starting quarterback. And then it's like there's the kickoff, and 356 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: then he went in. I think they had the ball first. 357 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: It was crazy and he was so good that you 358 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: know that. That's the takeaway. Like I look at two 359 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: of and if they I do think adding will Fuller 360 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: to the say the tight end. Uh DeVante Parker. I 361 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: think Jalen Waddle listen, I think some of this is 362 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: listen man. Even if he doesn't work, he can't bomb. 363 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: We have got to make this because Herbert is so good. 364 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: And Burrow, my gms, the guys I trust, freaking love Burrow. Yeah, Washington. 365 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: Ron Rivera told me if Chase Young had gone one 366 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: or something, you know, something weird had happened. They were 367 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: taking Burrow at two in a heartbeat. You know they 368 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: they thought those two players were way above everyone else. 369 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: Now in retrospect, you put Herbert obviously right, but you 370 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: know it's it's funny, Mike Um. You can do everything 371 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: right in this league. If you f up quarterback, it 372 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Chris Ballard and Greer, they've done everything right. 373 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: I know everything, and I mean I think maybe maybe 374 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: they overpaid for Byron Jones at corner. I would argue 375 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: Chris Ballard. We've had this conversation. There's a few things 376 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: I would quibble with Chris Greer lately. I'll stay off 377 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: Chris Baller because he's down right now. Quittin Nelson just 378 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: not like, let's give him some clemency from me, but 379 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: Chris Greer just the way they're maneuvering that thing, you're right, 380 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: like they're doing and he and Flores are building something 381 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: potentially really really good. Oh no, there's no question. But 382 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: so I think with you know, look, it's not like, oh, 383 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: they just happened to Benjamin big games for Ryan Fitzpatrick. No, 384 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: they they needed to because to A couldn't do it. 385 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: It didn't help by the way that tah later said, 386 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: I probably should have studied more. You know, listen, if 387 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: you go back to the game, they beat a playoff team, 388 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: the Rams on a short week, traveled to the Eastern 389 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: time zone, and the Dolphins on a buy yeah, like 390 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: like and to A still couldn't over yards Like it's 391 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: we're getting to a point now if he struggles in September, 392 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: they made a mistake and they and they were in 393 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: theoretically in the off season on some of this, you know, 394 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, Yeah, yeah, we're you know, we're in on that. 395 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: The Dolphins were not. It wasn't like they were just like, hey, man, 396 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: we just drafted to it, don't even you know, no, no, 397 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: they were already thinking about it. So he's under a 398 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: lot of pressure to start well and play well. So 399 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: the Cowboys acknowledge Dak had a little bit of a setback. 400 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: And it's funny when you pull a groin, you often 401 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: pull the other side because you overcompensate. And my theory 402 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: is Dak with a leg injury is overcompensating by coming 403 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: more of an arm thrower in practice. It's just completely 404 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: natural and what I would do if I could throw. Yeah, right, 405 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: So I don't necessary Riley. I don't think it's a 406 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: big deal. But they don't have a backup plan either. 407 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: And you gotta let this puppy heal. And they're on 408 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: hard knocks and he's not playing, and their schedule is 409 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: pretty tough early, you know, they open with the Buccaneers. 410 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: Is there anything that concerns you a little about the 411 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: Dak news? Yes, because it's a quarterback and it's an arm. 412 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: I mean, anytime it's a quarterback and it's a throwing arm, 413 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's fatigue or you know, there's 414 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: a little twins or yeah, I mean, you know how 415 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: it is it's it's like a picture. It's your arm, dude. 416 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: And so you know, quarterbacks can get by when they're 417 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: a little hobbled sometimes or you know, apparently without an 418 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: mcl if you're you know, Tom Brady, but I if 419 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: your arm starts getting you know, Jankie, then I'm concerned. 420 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: And you know, I covered Joe Montana, I consider the 421 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: greatest ever when I was young in the business and 422 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: he was coming off two MVPs and you know, almost 423 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: three Super Bowls a row, and all of a sudden 424 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: in training camp his elbow was just a little weird 425 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: and then next thing you do, he had surgery and 426 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: missed the whole year. Well, the next year he came 427 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: back and it was a quarterback competition between him and 428 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: Steve Young. Think about that, by the way, we were 429 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: covering that daily. But then I'll never forget up in 430 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: Rockland at Sierra College, he walked off early in the 431 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: middle of an afternoon practice, back to the locker room, 432 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: and I knew him. I saw his face and I'm like, 433 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,959 Speaker 1: something else happ and it was the same elbow, maybe 434 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: not the same exact injury, but same elbow. Knew surgery 435 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: and he played again in the last the second half 436 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 1: of the last game of the regular season, the whole 437 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: other story, but he basically missed all of two years 438 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: and then was on the Chiefs. Yeah, so, you know, 439 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: I don't worry a ton about it. But you know, 440 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: I always had this theory that, like the Lakers, they 441 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: added a bunch of pieces, but they've only really got 442 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: one player, Anthony Davis in his prime. Generally you have 443 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: to have like two stars in their prime to win 444 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: a title, preferably three to four players in their prime. 445 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis year ten has had so many injuries I'd 446 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: argue he just left his prime. So so it's funny 447 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: about the Cowboys name the players in their prime Zeke 448 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: Zeke Isn't you know what they're hoping is that we 449 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: don't know these guys that well, but they're gonna show 450 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,479 Speaker 1: us this year. You're right, I mean the line, I 451 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: mean that, you know, maybe Zach Martin still is, but 452 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: like that, oh boy, that line was special. That's what 453 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: made oh yeah special, and that's that's far from its 454 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: prime collectively. But yeah, it's a's a good question, and 455 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: that's my point. Eight. Dak is one of the few 456 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 1: that's in his prime and now he's hurt. So like 457 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,719 Speaker 1: Zeke's not, Amari's not, Ceedee Lamb probably is at the 458 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: end of this year. Nobody on the old line probably is. 459 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence should be but is under So my takeaway 460 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: and this thing is in the NBA, you need about 461 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: three good players either in their prime or damn close. 462 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: In the NFL you probably need about seven ye and 463 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: I just don't see a lot of cowboys in their prime. Okay. 464 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: So I do this with everybody I bring on TV 465 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: radio podcast. So every year there's a team that we 466 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: think is going to be good and they unplode. Last 467 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: year it's the Niners, and it's almost always due to injuries. 468 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: So I'm never going to ask you to predict that. 469 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: But then there's always a team that we think is 470 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: like a seven win team or a six win team 471 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: and they get the ten and we're like, WHOA. So 472 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sell you on Sam Darnam Carolina and here's 473 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: my sales. Okay, Okay. So Chuba Hubbard is a very 474 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: important draft pick because like McCaffrey's a home run hitter, 475 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: nag Harris goes in the first round, but he's not 476 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: a home run hitter. He doesn't give you twenty plus chunks. 477 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: McCaffrey and Cuba, two of them are both home run hitters. 478 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: DJ Moore, Robbie Anderson. If Christiansen, the rookie from b 479 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: roy U, wins the left tackle job, I'm told Hee 480 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: Will Matt Rule second year, Joe Brady second year. Now, 481 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: they've got very good defensive line talent. They went last 482 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: year Derek Brown. They went big on safety, the secondary, 483 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: and they went big on the D line. So the 484 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: D line now is actually the best part of their defense. 485 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: You start looking at their pieces, Anderson's a home run hitter. 486 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: Darnold's got a ton of juice, a playmaker, McCaffrey, Chuba, Hubbard, 487 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: Dj Moore. This is a big playoff in a division 488 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: Saints in Atlanta. Atlanta's defense is in a rebuild. I 489 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: would argue the Saints are in a rebuild. They have 490 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: the sixth easiest schedule. I start looking at Carolina and 491 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, the second year when new bright offensive guys 492 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: come in, there's a big leap. Also last year with 493 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: Matt Rule, no preseason, I think Carolina I could be 494 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: my Donald affection. I think Carolina has a chance to 495 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: be like a nine ten win team. And by the way, 496 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: it's ten and seven. I'm not saying they're great. Yeah, Like, 497 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: are you saying as good as a ten and six team? 498 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying finished second ten and seven wild card team, 499 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: Matt Rule, Darnold second year. You know what, I don't 500 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: hate it. Um. I don't know on Darnold, but I 501 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: do think Matt Rule, um, you know, is doing it 502 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: the right way and has a chance. Um. And it's 503 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,239 Speaker 1: not optimal conditions to come in now. Jim Harbad did 504 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: it in a lockout year, you know, and you know 505 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: Darner went to the super Bowl that first year. It 506 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: was crazy and then what the next year? So it 507 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: can be done. But yeah, well, we'll learn more about 508 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: Matt Rule this year. I think they're potentially building something 509 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: I you know that's gonna be It's gonna be really 510 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: hard to adjust to the whole blank win you know conversation. 511 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: I'm just realizing when you said Ted win, immediately I 512 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: started going, well, is ten and seven really that good? Like, well, 513 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: it's probably it is different. Basically ten and seven means 514 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: you hit a couple of game winning hit kicks. I mean, seriously, 515 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: it really means you had a couple of big plays 516 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: in a drive latent games, because I mean last year, 517 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: I think the Chargers were involved in twelve one score 518 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: gamesast year, which led the league. Carolina and the good 519 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: Charger year they won all those one score games. It 520 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: was the opposite. Yeah, So a lot of times a 521 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: ten and seventeen is you made a plan a drive late. 522 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: That's it. You picked up a first down. So I mean, 523 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: give me, give me a team that I will go, wow, 524 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: I never thought of that. Well, I don't think. I 525 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: don't think if I said the Chargers, I don't think 526 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna think that. So that's right, that's right. So 527 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: I won't say them. But I do think they're gonna 528 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: be good. I would say, you know, that's and I 529 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: you've heard me talk about. I would say, you know, 530 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: I got one for you. I think, how do you 531 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: feel about Washington because they were seven and nine last year? 532 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: But okay, I think they're gonna be pretty good. Okay, 533 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: So Curtis Samuel is now their second elite receiver, and 534 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: their defensive line has it's the best young defensive line. 535 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: It's surpassed the Niners in the league, and it's really 536 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: not necessarily close right now. I mean, it's it's four 537 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: dudes that can play. They're monsters. Yes, they're really good. 538 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: And now Jamie Davis right behind him. You know that 539 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: gets me excited potentially. But here's my knock on them. 540 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: The division's winnable. But Jesus, who are we kidding on 541 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick? Whence the last time he had good back 542 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: to back years? I mean, what are we talking about here? Yeah, 543 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: that's the you know what I'm hoping with Ryan Fitzpatrick 544 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: is sometimes when these guys get really old, they have 545 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: it so figured out and they're so calm that they're 546 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: better than you think. You know, all the way back 547 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: to Steve de Burgh when he was really old. But 548 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: for you old people. But you know, sometimes quarterbacks, you know, 549 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: they don't usually last because they get hurt and stuff. 550 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: So you're right, I'm hoping against all previous Ryan Fitzpatrick. 551 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: You know logic, because it usually goes in a circle, right, like, Wow, 552 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: he's really good. They should probably pay him, you know that. 553 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: It's like, ah, but you know Rod Rivera has constructed 554 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: it so that he's not asking the quarterback to win 555 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: a lot of games. He's asking the quarterback to manage it. 556 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: And you probably can't win the super Bowl doing that, 557 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: but you might be able to win eleven games, especially 558 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: in that division. Yeah, finally, you tweeted yesterday out of 559 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: nowhere that Maroon five super Bowl halftime show sucked, and 560 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: it was fairly random. And what was the revelation that 561 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: came to pass that you rush to your phone to 562 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: tweet that. Wow, I don't know that I can really 563 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: like do that justice right now, although I think over 564 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: beers you and I would probably be able to sort 565 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: that out a little better. But I consider myself a 566 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: connoisseur of the super Bowl halftime show and I remember 567 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: the Up with People days and uh, you know, I'm 568 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: a I love the classic rock stuff. So I thought 569 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: it was, you know, amazing with the Stones and the 570 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: who and all that. I always thought you two and 571 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: I would. I've always said I thought you two's halftime 572 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: show was the best that I have ever seen. It was. Yeah, 573 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: it was great. It was after nine eleven. It was 574 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: you know, captivating and haunting and loud, and um, I 575 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: would stand by that. But though I you know, though 576 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: it's outside my zone of music a little bit. I 577 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: thought Lady Gaga stepped up to that thank you. I 578 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: thought it was I thought she crushed. He was she murdered, obliterated, 579 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: and and you know what we saw when she acted 580 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: in Stars Burn like she's so great at acting too, 581 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 1: like like she was on that level of a half ye, 582 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 1: So I would I would say, you two and Lady 583 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: Gaga to be are the standard um And it's not. 584 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: Everyone can do a stadium. So I don't even want 585 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: to blame Maroon five like not. You think, wow, they're 586 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: really popular. I know some of their songs. They'd be 587 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: great in the stadium. No, they're not. I've been to 588 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 1: a lot of stadium shows over the years. Trust me, 589 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: some people can do it and some people it just 590 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: doesn't translate that well. And I just thought that was 591 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: a really poor choice. And it is interesting. I've been 592 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: around a thousand celebrities, right, Steven Tyler, Lady Gaga, you 593 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 1: can feel the stardom. I am wondering if you had, 594 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 1: in fact drowned that plane but somehow survived. Like that plane, 595 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: when you opened the airport restroom door, the flood came out, 596 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: and let's yes, it went up to everyone's neck and 597 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: there was like some swimming, but he's Sully the pilot, 598 00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: Sully Sellenburger did and you guys lived and you were 599 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: you know, you came playing on the story. I'm wondering 600 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: how famous you would be because you're very famous and 601 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: you earned it, you know, with you know, hard work, 602 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: but that would take you to a different level of fame, 603 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: like people I feel like in Indonesia would have an 604 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: awareness about you all of a sudden. I'm wondering, like 605 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 1: your aura might have changed. Yeah, for those listening to this, 606 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: I almost downed an American Airlines plane by in the 607 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: bathroom turning the water on and not being able to 608 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 1: get the sink off as it started flooding the bathroom. 609 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: It was ill fated trip long before that, but this, 610 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: this escalated things. You had to have the thought though 611 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: in that moment, I know you had that thought like 612 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: is this ever going to stop? And if it doesn't? Know? 613 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 1: There was ten seconds of absolute panic. I started kicking it. 614 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: I couldn't shut it off. I got up on the bathroom, 615 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: started kicking it. I was panic for ten seconds. Do 616 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,280 Speaker 1: we know what shut it off? Oh no, my foot 617 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: It eventually shut off. Yeah, no, no, I there was 618 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: ten seconds, and I'm like, I'm gonna flood the plane. 619 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: We're thirty three thousand feet, I'm gonna flood the plane. 620 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: And I didn't. And then and then I started splashing 621 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 1: it and started getting on the floor, and I there 622 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: was just it would have been a long day and 623 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: I was already amped up. It was just, you know 624 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: how it is like I could never be a CEO. 625 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: I'm too emotional. I could never be a CEO of 626 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: a company where like the stock crashes and you're supposed 627 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 1: to walk into a board meeting and go, everything's good, 628 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: It's all good. Literally, a bathroom sink in ten seconds. 629 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 1: I lost My ship was back and it was the 630 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 1: only bathroom on this small plane. Okay, so there wasn't 631 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 1: much cabin to fill up. We'd have gone down in 632 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 1: like four minutes. Were your kids like laughing really hard 633 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: or were they mortified that, like you all were gonna 634 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: get you know, outed as these you know, No, I 635 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: don't even I'm not sure I told them. It's one 636 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: of those things where I'm not sure I did. I 637 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,240 Speaker 1: just knew. I think I may have told my daughter 638 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: it was it was Listen, I haven't had many of 639 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: these moments in life where you kind of freak out. 640 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: But there was, and they're usually very brief. So this summer, 641 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,879 Speaker 1: I had ten seconds or I lost my ship, And 642 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: that's ten seconds at thirty three thousand feet is a 643 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: long time. Like that's not ten seconds at sea level, 644 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, ten seconds to thirty three thousand feet or 645 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: ten seconds at like you know, one hundred feet below. 646 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: Would you know in the ocean that would be big, 647 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: but like ten seconds could be long. Yeah. I mean 648 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,720 Speaker 1: if you're flying a plane and you lose a second engine, 649 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: that's a long ten seconds. Yeah, that doesn't feel like 650 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, one two, three thousand and two. All right, 651 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: Mike Silver. Listen to the volume, Sports, Twitter and Instagram, 652 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: rate review, subscribe, good seeing Anyboddy? All right, thank you 653 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: so much. The volume