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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, would you Brady House Brady Brady fella, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Oh you ain't.

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Speaker 2: Let me put it the question to take it.

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Speaker 3: I know exactly, Hey, when you said Tom Brady, I

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Speaker 3: And then you got to talk about Odie Is. I

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Speaker 3: don't care.

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Speaker 4: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle, p

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Speaker 4: price wan slice the broa all my life, poppy grinding

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Speaker 4: all my life, all my life, grinning all my life, sacrifice,

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Speaker 4: hustle paid the price, One slice got the bronc Geysa

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Speaker 4: all my life, poppy, grinding all my life.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to another episode of Club Sha Shay. I

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Speaker 1: am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propriud of

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Speaker 1: Club Shasha. The guy that's stopping buy for conversation on

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Speaker 1: the drink today is one of the NFL best receiver.

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Speaker 1: He displayed generational talents and his ability leading the leaving

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Speaker 1: and receiving touchdowns twice. He's the three time first team

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Speaker 1: All Pro, a six time Pro Bowl, a Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame level talent. Once recorded twenty four touchdown in a

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Speaker 1: single college season. Fresno State thought so much of him

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Speaker 1: they retired as number fifteen. A superstar. Davante Adams app.

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Speaker 5: Said, you had me, Bro, Bro appreciate that great man.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you know what, Bro, after what you've done your

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Speaker 1: first ten years in the league, six Pro Bowls, three

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Speaker 1: first team All Pro, leading the league in touchdown, Bro,

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Speaker 1: we gotta we got a toast toes Man and we

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Speaker 1: were talking out camera earlier. You're not done yet.

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Speaker 5: I'm not done, man. We gonna tell you, Bro, thank you.

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Speaker 1: This is my personal Kangnac shay Bal Lapotier Vsop.

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Speaker 2: Let me know what you think.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's that's some good stuff right there. I'm

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Speaker 3: not a big drinker. That's right here. Some good stuff.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking you'd.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie because I've seen I've seen you

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Speaker 3: talk about Henny, and I'm not gonna lie to you.

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Speaker 3: I don't like Hennessy at all.

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Speaker 2: We bust.

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Speaker 1: We we don't talk, we don't talk bad about the competition,

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Speaker 1: but we feel feel good with what we got.

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Speaker 3: But this right here is that's that's him. I appreciate

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Speaker 3: that's him. I thought I thought forty my uncle e forty.

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Speaker 3: He sent me some uh, some of that type. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if you had that, that's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: But this, y'all all right here with this, Okay, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate that, So yard go ahead and get you a

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Speaker 1: botted that shave bout forty a bsop best chasing vsop

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Speaker 1: on the market. You know what, Let's get right into it,

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Speaker 1: enter into your level. Season the first ten BRO six

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowls, three first team All Pro led the league

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Speaker 1: and receiver. But you've heard some of the critics. Davante

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Speaker 1: Yay had one hundred catches, his fourth straight hunderd catch season,

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Speaker 2: You know, the separation is not what it used to be.

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Speaker 2: Yards per catch is not what they used to be.

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Speaker 1: Man, Davante is starting to slow down. How do you

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Speaker 1: answer your critics?

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Speaker 5: I just I don't. Honestly, I don't answer him. I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't give an answer because I don't play. For

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Speaker 3: the reason why people ask me what I attributed a

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Speaker 3: lot of my success too, and it's two main things.

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Speaker 3: Just the fact that I keep my life real simple,

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Speaker 3: real predictable. The things that I'm into. I don't got

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Speaker 3: a million hobbies. I don't let my mind get all

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Speaker 3: for the most part, I just keep it real simple.

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Speaker 3: And the other part is I'm a self pleaser, man,

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Speaker 3: I'm not really worried about my own expectation far exceeds

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Speaker 3: when they say that, I'm already thinking that about myself,

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Speaker 3: about not the separation and the details and things like that,

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Speaker 3: but you know, as far as what I have and

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Speaker 3: of my teammates coaches that I've had, I'm a real

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Speaker 3: passionate dude. So they you know, they talk about this

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Speaker 3: after two bad weeks or two lackluster weeks on offense

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Speaker 3: there and be the only one making plays and you

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Speaker 5: So it's gonna be like that one day.

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Speaker 3: But if it ain't me, then then I look, I

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Speaker 2: How much you bound do you do from week to week,

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Speaker 1: Do you go back, say you play a game, do

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Speaker 3: You ask anybody like you talk about the consistency over

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Speaker 3: but then once once I got rolling, it's just because

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Speaker 3: of the way that I prepare man, and the way

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Speaker 3: like I said, is I expect a lot. You know,

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Speaker 3: I still feel like that wasn't enough because what do

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Speaker 3: Just because I led the league don't mean that I

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Speaker 3: it ain't got nothing to do with a hundred Who

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Speaker 5: Yeah right, I didn't, right, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: So for me, it's maximizing every every opportunity and every

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Speaker 3: know it, you know, And I'm going in the eleven.

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Speaker 3: People like, damn, it's eleven for you. I'm like, bro,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know if it's gonna be another ten,

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Speaker 3: but but we ain't done yet, Tay.

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Speaker 1: What I used to do, like when I played, I

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Speaker 2: Right, do you constantly like it's never good?

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Speaker 1: You know, you're you're you're satisfied, but you're not but

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I know exactly what you're saying, and it's

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Speaker 3: it mean it. I'm demanding what I should for myself regardless,

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Speaker 3: Cool, you could say that I had a great career

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Speaker 3: I feel like that must mean that I'm not doing

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Speaker 5: Even so that's the way I look at it.

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Speaker 1: When I look at the talented receiver pool that we

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Speaker 1: Davante Adams is still in that list. Are you as

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Speaker 3: Now, Well, this this is the reality, man. The And

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Speaker 3: it's funny because I was just talking to my cousin

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Speaker 3: I say the league, I mean the NFL culture. So

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Speaker 3: they just they want they want to crown a new

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Speaker 3: king every year, every year, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: And the reality is they haven't been able to do

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Speaker 5: Yeah about potential.

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Speaker 1: you've known? But could you see the riding on the wall,

434
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Speaker 1: because a lot from the outside, a lot of people

435
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Speaker 1: were like, man, Gruton really ain't really embraced though. Boy

436
00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,199
Speaker 1: he always talking about everybody else quarterback, But damn, you

437
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Speaker 1: can't keep saying somebody else girl beautifull.

438
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Speaker 2: You got a girl sitting right next to you.

439
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Speaker 1: And it seemed like he kept saying somebody else girl

440
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Speaker 1: was more beautiful than what he had.

441
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they had an interesting relationship relationship to say the least,

442
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Speaker 3: and I know he was on board with him and

443
00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,399
Speaker 3: he loved Grew and Grew loved me too. And that

444
00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,480
Speaker 3: was another reason why I was real fired up about

445
00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,840
Speaker 3: potentially being a Raider, was that I knew that, you know,

446
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Speaker 3: he had strong feelings about me as a player.

447
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Speaker 5: So and then once he left, that was like the

448
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Speaker 5: first piece of it where I was.

449
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Speaker 3: Like, I don't now are they even gonna want me?

450
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Speaker 3: You know, because you know, I am who I am.

451
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Speaker 3: But that don't mean that every GM is like, I'm

452
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Speaker 3: he's worth this, you know, investment, And like we said,

453
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Speaker 3: obviously you know it's no secret that it's gonna be

454
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Speaker 3: a pretty you have to dig pretty deep in the pocket,

455
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Speaker 3: you know. So so just being unsure about how he

456
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Speaker 3: felt about that, I didn't I didn't know if Josh

457
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Speaker 3: me Daniels and and Dave Zigler were gonna come in

458
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Speaker 3: and decide, yeah, we want to invest this money in

459
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Speaker 3: this guy. And then when it worked out, it just

460
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Speaker 3: it seemed like it was it was meant to be,

461
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Speaker 3: and unfortunately we weren't able to take advantage of it

462
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Speaker 3: the way, you know, in a really weird season too,

463
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Speaker 3: because we lost I want to say, basically all those

464
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Speaker 3: games that year other than one by like less than

465
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Speaker 3: six points.

466
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there were like one score game that it normally

467
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Speaker 1: came down to the last possession, right.

468
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Speaker 3: Which one way or another exactly, which equates to not

469
00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,480
Speaker 3: being a great team because you're not finishing it. But

470
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Speaker 3: when you look at it like we wasn't no team

471
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Speaker 3: that people was like, We're about to come in here

472
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Speaker 3: and roll over these boys. Like we just wasn't figuring

473
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Speaker 3: it out and finishing the games the way we needed to.

474
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Speaker 5: So we had the chance to do it.

475
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Speaker 3: So based off what I've seen, even losing those games

476
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Speaker 3: my first year, it gave me a good feeling about

477
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Speaker 3: moving forward with the squad, just provided we could fill

478
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Speaker 3: in a few gaps to make this team really be

479
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Speaker 3: the team he was supposed to be.

480
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Speaker 1: You see all the success that Josh McDaniels has as

481
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Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator for the New England Patriots.

482
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And then he was like, man, he got a

483
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Speaker 2: great mind.

484
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Speaker 1: I see the way what he does with well, because

485
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Speaker 1: I saw what he did with mass I saw what

486
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Speaker 1: he did with Gronk and YadA, YadA, YadA, And he

487
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Speaker 1: was like, man, what is it about him that for

488
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Speaker 1: whatever reason, obviously Tom Brady's date Tom Brady out on,

489
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 1: but still schematically you should be able to scheme things

490
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Speaker 1: and make things happen, right, what what.

491
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Speaker 2: Is it about him?

492
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Speaker 1: Because he's been at a couple of locations that wasn't

493
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Speaker 1: New England and it went.

494
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Speaker 3: Horrible yeah, this is what I would say. And I

495
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Speaker 3: actually had this conversation with him during the season at

496
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Speaker 3: first that first year, because we had some things going

497
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Speaker 3: where dudes was messing up assignments. They wouldn't they didn't

498
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Speaker 3: really seem all the way locked in like how they

499
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Speaker 3: were supposed to. So I went and sat in there

500
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Speaker 3: with him, and it would just coincidentally have to be

501
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Speaker 3: after a game where I had like two catches or

502
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Speaker 3: something like that. So I go in his office and

503
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Speaker 3: it's the first of the time. As soon as I

504
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,159
Speaker 3: walk in there, he I know, I know, Tay, you know,

505
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Speaker 3: getting ready to like starting off like I know, we

506
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Speaker 3: got to get you the ball, this and that. I said,

507
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Speaker 3: that's not even what I'm here for. I want to

508
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Speaker 3: have like a real man and man talk with you.

509
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Speaker 3: And what I basically taught him was like, I think

510
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Speaker 3: we don't need to change our standard because you and

511
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Speaker 3: I both used to winning games and we were aligned

512
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 3: on a lot of stuff we were talking. I was

513
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Speaker 3: actually a big advocate for him, you know, just because

514
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Speaker 3: he I felt like maybe the way the offense went

515
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,959
Speaker 3: didn't work great with us, but what he believed in

516
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Speaker 3: I truly believed in as well. And he was old school,

517
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Speaker 3: and I always had old school coaches, So you know,

518
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Speaker 3: him being hard on this and practice stuff like that

519
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,239
Speaker 3: never bothered me because you know, I'm just I know

520
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Speaker 3: what it is that he's trying to get out of us,

521
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 3: so greatness, Yeah, exactly, and that's all that it was.

522
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Speaker 3: So I go in there and I say, we shouldn't

523
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Speaker 3: change our standard, but I think you and I, just

524
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Speaker 3: to save our mental we might have to change our

525
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Speaker 3: expectation a little bit because here's the reality. You've had

526
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Speaker 3: success in this offense and many many years super Bowl

527
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Speaker 3: I think he won six super Bowls. But the only

528
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Speaker 3: difference is every single human being that walked through those

529
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Speaker 3: doors and was sitting on the other side of him

530
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Speaker 3: in those team meetings, they had a hand in every

531
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Speaker 3: soul that was in there. So when you picking and

532
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 3: you got this super complex, you know, slides and all

533
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 3: these things for this old line, you getting these Harvard

534
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 3: grads and all these dudes that could really process this.

535
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Speaker 3: We got dudes that grew and you know, and them

536
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 3: brought in and good talent. But these dudes are not

537
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Speaker 3: the same. They may not be as intellectual, they may

538
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,880
Speaker 3: not be as disciplined as what you would have chose yourself.

539
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 3: So that's like you walking into a room and coaching

540
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Speaker 3: up a bunch of kids versus your own AAU team,

541
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Speaker 3: and you expecting that they're gonna do the exact same thing.

542
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,959
Speaker 3: You don't know these kids like that, you haven't been

543
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Speaker 3: able to really put your blessing on them, you know,

544
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Speaker 3: put your hand on them and shape them to be

545
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Speaker 3: the type of player or person that you want them

546
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Speaker 3: to be, you know, as it pertains to the to

547
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Speaker 3: the football game. So when you come out here, we

548
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 3: should still keep the same standard is how hard we

549
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Speaker 3: push them, but maybe let's ease up a little bit

550
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Speaker 3: as far as the frustration and leaving out of every

551
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Speaker 3: practice so pissed off that there was a few mental

552
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 3: errors when you're not realizing that these are not These

553
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 3: ain't dudes that got PhDs like some of the guys

554
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Speaker 3: you had and just even fit that system the way

555
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 3: that you know, So we got guys that may be

556
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Speaker 3: better in the system that we have now. And I've

557
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 3: seen I've been in multiple systems, so I've seen it.

558
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Speaker 3: So I just basically tell them, I said, look, you

559
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 3: you've had a lot of success, but I think maybe

560
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 3: we should start gearing to understand that these dudes are

561
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 3: a little bit different and find out the best way

562
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 3: to coach them up, best way to.

563
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 5: Run this offense.

564
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 3: That way it'll it'll work best versus trying to shove

565
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 3: these guys into this molde that you want to have

566
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 3: us fit into. Because the ultimate name of the game

567
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 3: is win the game. It's not win a certain type

568
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 3: of way. Yeah, you know so, I think what's most

569
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 3: important when you a coach is shaping it around who

570
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Speaker 3: you who you know.

571
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Speaker 1: Because a lot of times it takes to your point.

572
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: A lot of times what coaches do and the really

573
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: good coaches can do it. They'll fit their system around

574
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Speaker 1: the players that they have, correct and they don't say

575
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 1: you fit my system. And I think he had a

576
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: system at New England. This is the way it was,

577
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: coach Butlercheck says this is it. Yeah, and guys, and

578
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: they drafted guys accordingly. But when you go elsewhere, you've

579
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: got to all of a sudden, you ain't got Tom,

580
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Speaker 1: you ain't got grownk, you don't have this, you don't

581
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Speaker 1: have that. Well, you got to fit a system to

582
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Speaker 1: the talent level that you have, correct and if you

583
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: don't you're gonna be frustrated, and then guy's gonna start

584
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: being frustrated with you because you're gonna mL them so

585
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 1: much they just gonna shut you out.

586
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 3: And that's exactly what happened. That's exactly it. So you

587
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 3: you completely understand how that goes. And that's that's how

588
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 3: I feel, genuinely, like, if you come in and you're

589
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 3: trying to make something work, it shouldn't just be about

590
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 3: what it is that you believe in, because you should

591
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 3: believe in winning, and you you're used to that, right

592
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 3: and it's worked in the past. So I get to

593
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 3: a certain extent that he in his mind, he probably

594
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Speaker 3: puzzled because he like, I've been with all these dudes

595
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Speaker 3: and we.

596
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Speaker 5: Got all these guys.

597
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Speaker 3: But once you got to send somebody down sometime and say,

598
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Speaker 3: think about this part of it, like this you you

599
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Speaker 3: didn't these are not all you.

600
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Speaker 5: You didn't draft these guys.

601
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Speaker 3: So even if you have a little bit of time

602
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 3: with them, like, you gotta work with them differently. Even

603
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 3: if you if I'm running a team, I'm not gonna

604
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 3: sit here and coach every guy the same way. Correct,

605
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 3: you know, you gotta you gotta coach him However, if

606
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 3: I got if one of my best players is gonna

607
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 3: sit there and cry when as soon as you voice

608
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 3: at them, it may be unfortunate. I may be in

609
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 3: my office like, man, this boy's soft, but I'm gonna

610
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do what I gotta do so we make

611
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Speaker 3: it work. Yes, you know, especially when it's some of

612
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 3: your guys. Guys, you know, you gotta do what you

613
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 3: gotta do to get that end result you want.

614
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Speaker 1: I think Andy Reid is a great example of that.

615
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: You look at the way Andy Reid coach when he

616
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: had Alex Smith. You look at the way he coached

617
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, You look at the way he coached Donald mcdale.

618
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: Each situation was different based on the player he had

619
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Speaker 1: at quarterback, based on the players that he had around him,

620
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: and the really good coaches can adapt and not say, man,

621
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Speaker 1: is my system your system made worth a hill of

622
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Speaker 1: bee If them guys can't.

623
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Speaker 5: Run it, hey, and it can't be that good.

624
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Speaker 3: If I mean we got good players, yes, so it

625
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 3: ain't like we lacking talent or you done went to

626
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627
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,800
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628
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 3: about high level athletes, and you look at that offense

629
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630
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631
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632
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633
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635
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636
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Speaker 2: Did it make you up? Because it made me upset?

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna see what you think about this and

670
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: I'll give you my point of view. When you left

671
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: Aaron people automatically as soon. Man, he ain't fn put

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Speaker 1: up dumb numbers. Man, come on, man, who y'all kid,

673
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Speaker 1: y'all know who it was, right, And so now you

674
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: feel like, Bro, yes, I appreciate Aaron.

675
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Speaker 2: We know he's the generational talent.

676
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, we know he's transcended, correct, But bro, I'm

677
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: I'm on the other end of this now.

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00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's the curse. And I talked to Aaron

679
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 3: about this multiple timesh We joke about it, and I'm like,

680
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 3: that's the curse of being with a player that's that Like,

681
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 3: it's much more of a gift because you're gonna be

682
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 3: able to you know.

683
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 2: He can read you. He knows what you're thinking.

684
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 3: You know what he's thinking, and and he gonna make

685
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 3: you so much of a better player just by being

686
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 3: around too.

687
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 5: Like you you didn't have those times where you at O.

688
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 3: Ta's and then there's a day where you're not there

689
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 3: or whatever, like and I've heard this from you know,

690
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 3: some of our guys with the Raiders. Now when days

691
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 3: where I wasn't there, like days that Aaron was present,

692
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 3: the way that team was flying around and looked out

693
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 3: out there versus the days that he was in the

694
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 3: training room during the you know whatever. Absolutely, Scott guy

695
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 3: still working. It ain't like they're out there telling jokes

696
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 3: and just like walking in between. But it's a different

697
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 3: level intensity, is execution and all of that. So not

698
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: even just his ability to throw the ball, but just

699
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 3: his presence brings a different type of it gets out

700
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: of you essentially kind of I would I would equate

701
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: it to how a coach.

702
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,479
Speaker 5: Like ap coming in you.

703
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: You look at that next week after we you know,

704
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: did what we did in Detroit, and then we come

705
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 3: back and then we did what we did to the Giants.

706
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 3: You can say whatever you want about the Giants, They're

707
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 3: still the NFL team. We went in there and certain

708
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: guys that maybe weren't playing the way that they should

709
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 3: one week later looked like different players. And that's because

710
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: of the presence of a human being and what they

711
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 3: can do to get to maximize what you have in you,

712
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 3: maybe you don't even need new personnel. Sometimes you need

713
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Speaker 3: somebody else to come in and get make make Shannon

714
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 3: go a little bit better than and then now that

715
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Speaker 3: player is the player that you wanted to go get

716
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: at the same price.

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Speaker 2: Right.

718
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: The thing was like me playing with John Is that

719
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: what I took for granted? And I knew he was

720
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: a great player, he had been to Super Bowls, he

721
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: had been an MVP. Is that what you take for granted?

722
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Speaker 1: Is that the ball place?

723
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Speaker 5: Man?

724
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: Like if he put the ball between the eight and

725
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Speaker 1: the four, he's telling me shying to get up in

726
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: your shadow. There's danger on the left or the right, right,

727
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: So if you go left, you're gonna get your car cleaned.

728
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,959
Speaker 1: You go right. If he puts it in front of me,

729
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: he's telling him I can continue to run. If you

730
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: put it on my back shoulder, he's telling me, I'm

731
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: stopping you from you from a headache. You take things

732
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: like that for granted because he's been doing like, oh,

733
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: everybody gonna be doing it like this, and the moment

734
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Speaker 1: you failed, like ro you didn't.

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Speaker 5: See that guy. See that's the thing.

736
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,959
Speaker 3: And honestly, the placement is one piece of it, but

737
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 3: the even more important is the timing haspeace of it,

738
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: you know, like having a dude like Aaron I was

739
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: able to get away with some things that maybe wouldn't

740
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 3: be able to work with another quarterback, Like we have

741
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 3: a stop route or a puma is what we called

742
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 3: it in Green Bay where it's fifteen yards, basically a comeback,

743
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 3: but you turn it back inside. It's almost like a curl,

744
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 3: but you're coming back down your stem. That route was

745
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 3: run at nine yards, that route was run at ten yards.

746
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 3: That was run at fifteen to seventeen yards, just based

747
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 3: off what I needed to do and having a dude

748
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: like that pulling the trigger, having the ability to just

749
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 3: whip that ball over there, not sit here and just

750
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 3: look me down the whole way, but fill it out,

751
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 3: hold the safety, and just fill my body language. Know

752
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 3: that based off where guys are that this is typically

753
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 3: when he takes it a little bit deeper and not

754
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 3: sitting there like it wasn't a whole lot of times

755
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 3: he's doing this and I'm not ready or vice versa.

756
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 3: So having those reps, Yes, obviously that happened over time,

757
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 3: but even the timing of a simple out off coverage,

758
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: we got a dagger concept and I'm running an en

759
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: route just knowing when to release that ball to where Now,

760
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 3: like I've had a couple of instances this past year

761
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: where I'll come down the middle and the ball is

762
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 3: where it needs to be, But it wasn't thrown when

763
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 3: it was supposed to be thrown. So now that headache

764
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 3: were talking about, Like you know, I'm sitting there trying

765
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: to convince these people in the tent that I'm okay

766
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 3: when it shouldn't even happen because that could have been

767
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 3: a catch and run.

768
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 5: So that's the part where.

769
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 3: I talk about where you talk about the people saying, oh,

770
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 3: you know, he didn't had a year that we were

771
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 3: seeing seeing him have and they didn't got and they

772
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: got spoiled over the years too because they seen you know,

773
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: fifteen hundred a few times and you know, almost twenty

774
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: touchdowns in twenty twenty, Like they see this, so now

775
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 3: they think that that's the standard, which which it is.

776
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: But they got to that's hard, bro.

777
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 5: It's not easy to do.

778
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: It's hard to score one touchdown, yes, league, but you know,

779
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: to get almost one hundred in my career that don't

780
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,959
Speaker 3: happen by own accidents. So when people talk about a

781
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 3: regression and this and that, I'm saying, you're just not

782
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 3: watching the tape because if you would have known anything

783
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: about ball, you would have known that, you know, in

784
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 3: that game I just played that I had seventy one

785
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: yards if I would have got the ball a little

786
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: quicker on that dig. That would have been another sixty, right,

787
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 3: because if you look at two weeks before that, I

788
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 3: got it earlier and it was sixty.

789
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: I go back to the Monday night game that you

790
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: guys ended up winning. I think you kicked the last

791
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: second field goal and he threw that dagger around. He

792
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: threw that over out and Fred warn't. I mean he

793
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: threw it over the top of yes, spinning pair. Yes,

794
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: And Fred got depth everything the line. He couldn't play it, no, perfect.

795
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 5: Couldn't, couldn't.

796
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: But when Aaron released it and when you came out

797
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: of that break, the perfect throw will beat the perfect cover.

798
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 5: Every time, every time, every time.

799
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 3: And that's that's one of the ones that you know,

800
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 3: the same when you when you're breaking up with your

801
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 3: girl and you say, it's not you, it's me. That's

802
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 3: what That's what you got to say to Fred at

803
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: that moment. It's not you, bro, A hell of a job,

804
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 3: it ain't don't worry about it ain't on you, guess

805
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 3: it's us. And I had the easy job there, you know,

806
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 3: just going and grabbing it, putting that ball over the

807
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 3: top to him. When Fred is probably the most athletic

808
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 3: linebacker in the NFL. I mean you definitely miss those

809
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: type of you know, drives and those type of catches alone.

810
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: No better, no one is better. Ask than you. What

811
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: does shanningh What do I Shanning Sharp and the national

812
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: media get wrong about Aaron Rodger?

813
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Speaker 3: Well, I think see when you when you're a person

814
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 3: and me and Aaron are a lot of liking this,

815
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 3: when you are a person that's secure enough to not

816
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: have to worry about clearing stuff up, like like Aaron's

817
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 3: not you don't see him going on TV and on

818
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 3: social media saying trying to deny any of the stuff

819
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: that people saying. Like when you're so solid with yourself,

820
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 3: sometimes it leads to people that's like your girl come

821
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: and say, are you cheating on me?

822
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 5: And you just go.

823
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 3: She gonna be like, oh, he must be cheating on Yeah. Yeah,

824
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 3: when in your head you like, I'm not worried about you.

825
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 5: I ain't. I'm all about you, I ain't chripping off

826
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 5: no old body, but.

827
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: You would deserve a response.

828
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 5: I'm not even gonna give that no attention.

829
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 3: So I think sometimes his his approach with that is,

830
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 3: you know, he's a very a private person and with

831
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 3: a lot of his his life being put in the

832
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 3: in the in the light like that, it's tough to

833
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 3: you know, and we all got our things too, we

834
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 3: all got you know, different situations that that are hard

835
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: to explain unless you truly know what's going on. And

836
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 3: the good thing for me and why I love him

837
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 3: so much, is that he's a dear friend of mine.

838
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 3: So I do know a lot about the details of

839
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 3: you know, the things behind of what people say and

840
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 3: what's led to you know, why why people get that perception.

841
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 3: But what I love about him is that he's not

842
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 3: concerned with sitting here trying to, you know, change that

843
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 3: and change it in your mind. If you feel a way,

844
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 3: then that's just how you're gonna feel, right and and

845
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 3: if and if that that hurts you, it shouldn't because

846
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 3: it has nothing to do with you, and more people

847
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 3: should approach it that way and and honestly minded business

848
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 3: as it pertains to to his personal life, you know,

849
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 3: because what the man doing with his vaccinations or non vaccinations,

850
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 3: immunations and capitalization, whatever it is, that ain't got none

851
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 3: of that ain't changing nobody's life but his right. So

852
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, Like people would ask me, like,

853
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 3: do you how do you come to Aaron? What do

854
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 3: you say to him in a situation where he's in

855
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 3: the media and y'all in there trying to focus for

856
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 3: that were like, man, we go in there and lab

857
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: just like we do every other day. That man is

858
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 3: a grown man. If he need to speak to me

859
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 3: about anything, he know, I'm here. I'm not getting in

860
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 3: his business, just like I don't want anybody else to

861
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 3: get in it.

862
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 5: But you know that there's pieces.

863
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 3: Obviously, some things come out, you know, here and there,

864
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 3: and people gonna speculate. But I just love that he's

865
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 3: secure enough to be himself and the people that truly

866
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 3: know him understand him a lot better than what's being

867
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: you know, put on the outside. And I'm just glad

868
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 3: I'm not that level of celebrity. I gotta i gotta

869
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 3: deal with it on everything. Yeah, I was part ninety

870
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 3: percent of what people talk about they don't know about.

871
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 3: So you know, he just try to keep it moving

872
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 3: and we all do the same with him.

873
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: And you're two years with the Raiders, You've gone fourteen

874
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: and twenty, haven't made the playoffs. Derek Carr Jared Still,

875
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 1: Jimmy g Brian Horrior, Aidan O'Connell. Now it looks seems

876
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: like aid and O'Connor and Garnamentchew gonna be fighting for

877
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback. Do you have the pieces at that position?

878
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: Because it doesn't matter. You can go out there and

879
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: you can run the best routes in the world. You

880
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: can run the end, cut, the dig, the dagger to

881
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: shake all that.

882
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: Good man.

883
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: You see Davarte run that rock, animal skates, But if

884
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: that ball sails out of bounds, eventually they gonna get frustrated.

885
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 5: Bro.

886
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: I'm putting in this work, I'm getting open, I'm winning,

887
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: and I ain't gonna get no looks.

888
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's it's a it's always a tough conversation

889
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 3: because when you talk about having the for sure answer,

890
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 3: we don't know because we haven't we haven't seen Gardner

891
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 3: in a in a raided uniform. We've seen him make

892
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 3: some plays, and you know, we've seen it to a

893
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 3: certain extent.

894
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 2: Jacksonville and exactly.

895
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 3: He's definitely been out there and had some experience. Aiding,

896
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 3: on the other hand, hasn't had near as much experience.

897
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 3: He had to pick up you know, in a in

898
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 3: an offense that's fit for Tom Brady. It's an offense

899
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 3: that you have to have extremely high level execution to

900
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 3: be able to make it work. You know, it's a

901
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 3: lot of dink and duck. It wasn't a lot of

902
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: you know, it wasn't a million shots down the field.

903
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: You know, I did catch. I had much longer touchdowns

904
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 3: in that offense. But it was honestly as a result

905
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 3: of us figuring out on the fly, like we said,

906
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 3: trying to adjust and make it work.

907
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 5: It was a lot of that. So when you got a.

908
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 3: Guy and me and Aiden talked about it at the

909
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 3: end of last year because I think we were in

910
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 3: a hot tub and somebody asked him, like, what do

911
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 3: you think about this offense? And he said himself, he said,

912
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 3: this offense just requires a really high level execution. You

913
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 3: got to be able to really sustain a drive like

914
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 3: you don't get just because you went you know three,

915
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 3: you capitalize on fourth down twice, you don't get five

916
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 3: downs on the next one. You still got to move.

917
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 3: So if you only didn't got twenty yards with two

918
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 3: first downs, that's a lot of work you still got

919
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 3: to do to get down there, especially you know, the

920
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 3: ball get kneled an end zone, you starting way back there,

921
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 3: you can still get three first downs and punt the ball,

922
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 3: So you know it's not And a lot of offenses

923
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: in these you know, especially today, these offense explosive. Man,

924
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 3: you get three first downs, y'all ask them scored. So

925
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 3: you know it's tough to do. You got to pick

926
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 3: up in the middle of that as a as a

927
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 3: young buck, and then you come in, you know, the

928
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 3: game that Jimmy gets hurt. He got to jump in

929
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: and play against the Chargers, get sacked six times by

930
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 3: the same freaking person, like like, that's not easy, and

931
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 3: he kind of got thrown into the fire a little bit.

932
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: So I do believe in Aiden, and I think he's

933
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 3: gonna he's gonna be able to feel a lot more comfortable.

934
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 3: He looked he looked pretty good in OTAs And we

935
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 3: just gonna continue to grow and learn from each other.

936
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 3: And I've always been a big advocate for him because

937
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 3: when he first came in, he came in real confident

938
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 3: balling in the OTA period and in preseason and showed

939
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 3: everybody what he has the potential to do.

940
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 5: So we just got to keep working, just like with

941
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 5: me and Aaron.

942
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 3: I think, I mean, if you if you're trying to

943
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 3: count your chickens before they hatch with me, then you

944
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 3: you wouldn't have had no eggs because my first two

945
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 3: years wasn't excited nobody to think that it was.

946
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 2: Going to be turned out exactly.

947
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 3: So you know, I'm I'm I'm the main person sitting

948
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 3: there saying everybody relaxed. You know, you gotta you gotta

949
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 3: give it, give it, give time for the for the

950
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 3: flyer to grow. You know, we we watering it right now.

951
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 3: We're gonna, you know, ultimately see what what what happens

952
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 3: with it, but it's hard to say for sure, like

953
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: we're gonna win the super Bowl right now.

954
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 5: But we got a lot of work.

955
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 3: To put in still, and I think we uh, we

956
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 3: got we got a good chance to get a lot better.

957
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: So you would say that the offense under Josh it

958
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: required a lot of patience and a lot of precision

959
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: correct big cause you know, hey, if you miss, but

960
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: you gotta be able to come back and do it

961
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: over and over and over and over again. And a

962
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: lot of times you're doing that without taking shots exactly.

963
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 5: And this game is about and that's a lot of

964
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 5: snaps too.

965
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

966
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, when when you

967
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 3: got your team on the field for you know, almost

968
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: eighty plays, you know you're gonna be out there with

969
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 3: a lot of so folks and and maybe hurt folks.

970
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 3: Right now, if you can get out there and get

971
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 3: some explosives and your defenses out there and getting the

972
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 3: ball back and putting it in it, then then now

973
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 3: that's less plays.

974
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 5: You you stretching the field.

975
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 3: The morale of the team is different because now you

976
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 3: you done got more confidence getting the first down. You know,

977
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 3: on fourth down it's cool and that can give you

978
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 3: confidence and you want to have that in your bag

979
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 3: of being able to But you ain't trying to go

980
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 3: down there just scoring on.

981
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you ain't gonna make a whole lot of living

982
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: fourth down. Oh they oh this, This team goes for

983
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: it the most on fourth down and all that's gonna

984
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: get you in trouble.

985
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: That's gonna bit you in the butt.

986
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 3: B in Philly that work because they're doing it different

987
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 3: over there with the way they do it. But you know,

988
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 3: when it's fourth and three and you done ran the

989
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 3: ball thirty six to get it shorter, to do it

990
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 3: like that, Like, that's just not the type of ball

991
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 3: I believe in. I believe in being aggressive, and especially

992
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 3: when you had a person that.

993
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: To do so I'm looking at you guys had some

994
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: issues the Raiders, man, I remember, like, I don't care

995
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: what you guys. Oh Al Davis, who's the owner of

996
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: the Raiders, his philosophy was just wearing baby, so he

997
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: didn't really care about the off field stuff. But this

998
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: is a new age, this is a new time, Devonte,

999
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: and you guys had some issues that kind of maybe

1000
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 1: I don't know how much that impacted what you did

1001
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: on the field, but it can't be easy dealing with

1002
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: some of the things that you had to deal with

1003
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: that wasn't football relate.

1004
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I mean it's it's never it's never gonna

1005
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 3: make it easier anytime you got any type of distractions

1006
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 3: on the outside.

1007
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 5: So we try to limit that. And the other reality

1008
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 5: is if it's.

1009
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 3: If it's player related, coach related, whatever it is, like

1010
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 3: you want to ultimately if people can't, like, nobody's perfect.

1011
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 5: So things are gonna happen.

1012
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 3: Every so often, but you gotta look at the type

1013
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: of things that's happening obviously. And if people don't fit

1014
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: that mold and they start to create too many distractions

1015
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 3: and hold the team back from you know, realizing they

1016
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 3: full potential, then you gotta do what you gotta do.

1017
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 3: Man like this, this is this thing gonna keep rolling regardless.

1018
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 3: So and that's the mindset that I got too. Like,

1019
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 3: I got plenty of friends and I and I love

1020
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 3: continuing to grow bonds. And I feel like, you know,

1021
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 3: you hear about you know, the guys like you that

1022
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 3: played and not any no more. I feel like the

1023
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 3: main thing I always hear is that what I miss

1024
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 3: most is that connection and that that locker room feel,

1025
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 3: you know, playing the games. They a lot of dudes

1026
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 3: that haven't played for a long time. They say, I

1027
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 3: don't miss playing. I'm good on that, but but that

1028
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: camaraderie being together every day is it's just a that's

1029
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 3: a whole different thing. So I'm I got plenty of friends,

1030
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 3: like I said, So, if you don't fit the mold,

1031
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 3: and you don't bring us same type of attention and

1032
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 3: intention when you come in to you know, the facility,

1033
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 3: practice the game every single time you come out there,

1034
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 3: and you out here doing this and that, and you

1035
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 3: can't stay focused within And that's that's how I would

1036
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 3: do it if I was the coach, you know. And

1037
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 3: like I said, it ain't it ain't a one shot

1038
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 3: dealing you out. But if it's to a point where

1039
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 3: you are consistent and it ain't, you ain't bringing enough

1040
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 3: positive and it's the baddest out weigh in the good,

1041
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 3: then you serve no purpose here.

1042
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: So it's funny that you said that, is that do

1043
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: you feel like sometimes like the Raiders? Because of the

1044
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: Raiders's kind of like if I was born a priorate.

1045
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 1: I think my job is a natural pillage and loot,

1046
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 1: and it's uff you get drafted to the Raiders. It's

1047
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: almost like I'm supposed to be a bad boy. I'm

1048
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: supposed to be bad. I'm supposed to get get in

1049
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: trouble as long as I knock yell a lot of

1050
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: people on the field, I catch a few touchdowns.

1051
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 5: That that may that may be.

1052
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 3: I never really thought about it like that, But like

1053
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 3: you said, you grow up, you grew up in that

1054
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 3: and or you get you know, into that culture that

1055
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 3: the thing is. I think that that's kind of the

1056
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 3: older thing. I don't know if that's the Raider culture

1057
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 3: as much as it's definitely that hard nose, tough you

1058
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 3: know you.

1059
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 5: Want to be.

1060
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 3: You want you want people to fear you coming in right,

1061
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 3: they don't want to They don't want you don't want

1062
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 3: them to fear that you're about to shoot them or

1063
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: rob them, you know what I'm saying.

1064
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 5: Nothing like that.

1065
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 3: So we can't be getting too out of controling with it.

1066
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 3: But but we try to, you know, definitely have that

1067
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 3: same type of mentality, that's what he said. I mean,

1068
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: we watched videos throughout the year, you know, a little

1069
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 3: hype videos they put together for you week in and

1070
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 3: week out, and we get to see some of the

1071
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 3: stuff that that that Jack Tatum the boys was bad and.

1072
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 2: You going to jail for that. Even on the field today.

1073
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 3: I'm telling you John Madden too, them boys saying yeah

1074
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 3: we wed, yeah, we're gonna were gonna punch in them out.

1075
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 3: What you're gonna do about it? And we want you

1076
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: to We want you to worry about that. We don't

1077
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 3: want you to worry about, Oh, this man about to

1078
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 3: get a du out of that, you know what I mean.

1079
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 3: So so so hopefully we can stay away from that

1080
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 3: type of stuff and just keep it about the hard note.

1081
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 2: You said something very interesting.

1082
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: You said, Okay, guys, you're doing things and maybe getting

1083
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: pilegies here or there. And this is what I always

1084
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: tell guys, I could. It's called production and tolerance, and

1085
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: as long as production is up here, tolerance could be

1086
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: right here with it. But tolerance is never going to

1087
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: get higher than production. So you gotta make a choice

1088
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: if you want, if you want to be on the

1089
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: team as long as production and tolerance, as long as

1090
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: production is here, tolerance could.

1091
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 5: Be here one hundred percent. You gotta be.

1092
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 3: But once you get there, it's gonna be tough finding

1093
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 3: the home. And the other hard part about it is

1094
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 3: now these coaches talking, so they gonna say, well, well

1095
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 3: you got rid of them, what was the situation? Well,

1096
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 3: he was He was a knucklehead and you don't want

1097
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,479
Speaker 3: that following you around.

1098
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 2: And then people get mad to about well man, he

1099
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 2: blackball but he o.

1100
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 3: Yeah that when they bring the politics and all that

1101
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 3: into it, it's like, man, are you being real? What

1102
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 3: did what did you do? Yes, that's what I need

1103
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 3: to know. What did your ass do that led to you,

1104
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 3: you know, getting kicked off the team, Because especially the

1105
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 3: guys that's that's good.

1106
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 5: Players like three teams. I'm telling you that.

1107
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: Okay, one time, you're like, you know what made you

1108
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: know what? We had a disagreement. He saw it one way.

1109
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: I saw it a different way. Okay, that's that happened

1110
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: that Just like a job. We can be on the job,

1111
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: me and the boss, me and the supervisors. We didn't

1112
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: get along. We bump ahead. I go somewhere, never have

1113
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: that problem again. Right, But if I go somewhere, leave

1114
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: that job. Oh it was the boss. I go to

1115
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: another place, it was the boss. I go to another job,

1116
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: it's the boss and the only common de nominator. I

1117
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: got three different bosses, and I'm the only common.

1118
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: And that's the person that when I see that, and

1119
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 3: then I see in the media that you know round

1120
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 3: three that's still on the same thing. That let me

1121
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 3: know a lot of what I need to know. And

1122
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 3: then I say that, you know, I move, I move

1123
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 3: accordingly from there. But you make a little mental note

1124
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 3: about certain people that that you know, got that following

1125
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 3: them around everywhere.

1126
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, at some point in time, you got to stop

1127
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: being a victim in a situation you created. Correct, So

1128
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, would you Brady House Brady Brady fella, yes,

1129
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: oh d you you ain't let me put it the

1130
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: question to take.

1131
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 3: I know exactly, Hey, I knew when you said Tom Brady,

1132
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 3: I knew what you're saying. Let me see what you're

1133
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 3: gonna say. And then you got to talk about Odie

1134
00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 3: is I don't care.

1135
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 5: I don't care.

1136
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 2: You would take Tom at forty seven, forty.

1137
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 5: Eight fifty eight right now? Nah?

1138
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 3: Tom, look Tom know about I feel about it, man.

1139
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 3: And the other part is I think I'll be the

1140
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 3: first person that played with Tom and Aaron that that'd

1141
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 3: be pretty cool.

1142
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1143
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 5: I mean, he ain't getting older, but I.

1144
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 3: Mean you gotta still be able to throw it better

1145
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 3: than you know, half these dudes in the league.

1146
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: He can't spend it, you know, so you better be

1147
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 1: able to protect him because he ain't gonna be able

1148
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: to take them.

1149
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 3: He is better, and he ain't going nowhere either. He's

1150
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: gonna sit right there in that pocket. So you better

1151
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 3: have a nice, secure home for a be there.

1152
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 2: That's the sure.

1153
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: So what about these internet about you reunited with Aaron?

1154
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: Is that something that's something you would be open to,

1155
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: admenable to if this had happened, this offseason. If a

1156
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: package that just offered the package big enough to satisfy

1157
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: the Raiders' need and you be reunited with Aaron, would

1158
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: that been something you'd have been open to.

1159
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 3: Well, I'll answer like this, if I'm be reunited with anybody,

1160
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: it would be Aaron, but or be you know, relocated

1161
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 3: and be anywhere, it would be with Aaron. But that's

1162
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 3: that's not really my you know, it's a lot of

1163
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 3: that stuff going on last year in the media and

1164
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 3: them asking, you know, what are you gonna do about this?

1165
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 3: Are you are you thinking about going here? And they

1166
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 3: talk about whatever without even being involved in it, and

1167
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 3: it ended up getting all the way to the point

1168
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 3: where it got in the locker room and people was

1169
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 3: thinking that it was you know, I was doing having

1170
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 3: force and I'm like, y'all just don't understand man like

1171
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 3: when you and you know, I hate to say it

1172
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 3: like this because it makes me sound like I'm trying

1173
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: to put myself on a on a pedestal. But when

1174
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 3: you're the level a certain level of player, you don't

1175
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 3: have to come from you, and it most oftentimes it

1176
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: is not coming from from you. And I'm not the

1177
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 3: type of person that I enjoy going and putting that

1178
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 3: type of stuff out there. When I'm I'm actively on

1179
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 3: the Raiders. What do I look like sitting here talking

1180
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 3: to other people about being on another team, you know.

1181
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 3: And that's how I still feel about it right now,

1182
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 3: Like I'm locked in with the Raiders, and I really

1183
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 3: feel good about this team, and and you know, as far.

1184
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 5: As I know, they feel good about me.

1185
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 3: And if that ever changed, if that got to a

1186
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 3: point where they weren't feeling the same way, you know,

1187
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 3: I ain't done playing, so obviously we will figure out

1188
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 3: whatever we needed to figure out. But and the thought

1189
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 3: of playing with Aaron, it's obviously amazing, Like I already

1190
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 3: know what that's like, you know, which was similar to

1191
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 3: why I came here and and reunited with Derek, was

1192
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 3: because I had familiarity with it, you know, And anytime

1193
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 3: you have that gives you a little bit more confidence

1194
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 3: than starting fresh with somebody that you never played with before.

1195
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 3: And it helps that when they're the best to ever

1196
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: play the game, you know, or at least that's how

1197
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 3: I feel. I don't know how you feel about that,

1198
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 3: but that's certainly how I feel. He's clearly one of

1199
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 3: the best and He's given me an opportunity to, you know,

1200
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 3: show the world what I can do. And and you know,

1201
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 3: having him to start out with, I'm sure you know

1202
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 3: that what we was talking about earlier about you know,

1203
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 3: people say, did Aaron create you or this and that. No,

1204
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 3: but naturally, if you have a player that's a generational talent,

1205
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 3: you know exactly, and you looked at the next year

1206
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 3: when I wasn't there with him, it didn't.

1207
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 5: Look the same.

1208
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 3: So if if you got a tandem, anytime that you

1209
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 3: got somebody with some talent, they're gonna make each other better.

1210
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 3: So I'm not afraid to say that he definitely made

1211
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 3: me better, but he didn't. He definitely didn't correct me.

1212
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 3: You see, it was the same numbers that the very

1213
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 3: next year in in uh in Vegas. So obviously I

1214
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 3: didn't quote unquote need him. But it's it makes.

1215
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 5: Life a hell of a lot easier, that's for sure.

1216
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: Given the level of player that you are, given the

1217
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: level of player that Aaron el is, Given what you

1218
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 1: had with the Smith Boy, the Smith Brothers and that team,

1219
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: did you guys underachieve in Green Bay?

1220
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 5: I believe so, I believe we did.

1221
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 3: I think anytime you have that level and consistently can

1222
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 3: dominate the way that we did and then just find

1223
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 3: a way to not do it when you really really

1224
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 3: need to. I think you can. You can say that

1225
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 3: I wouldn't consider it a failure. I know people would

1226
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 3: like to use that, So the way you said it,

1227
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 3: I would agree with more that way. It was definitely

1228
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 3: an underachievement because we didn't we didn't maximize it. We

1229
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 3: were the best team in football for a few years

1230
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 3: and I J I truly believe that, and we weren

1231
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 3: able to hoist that trophy, not even once. I didn't

1232
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 3: even get to play in the game. So, you know,

1233
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 3: any any time you could say that your your personnel

1234
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 3: and the system, everything was great, and then you don't

1235
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 3: have nothing.

1236
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 5: To show for it. You know.

1237
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 3: It's it's I feel like, if you're being real enough

1238
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 3: with yourself, you can comfortably say, yeah, we didn't, we

1239
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 3: didn't achieve what we were supposed to do.

1240
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 2: It does it keep you up at night knowing what

1241
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 2: you had?

1242
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: You look at Jaire, you look at Preston and Zadarius,

1243
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: you look at yourself, you look at Aaron, you look

1244
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: at what you guys had right, you got had not

1245
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: only just like good players you got had Pro Bowl,

1246
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: all pro level players all over the field for a

1247
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: good for let's just say, for a good four year period.

1248
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: You guys had as good a talent as anybody. And

1249
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: for you guys not to have not even forget when

1250
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, to even play in that game. Does

1251
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: that keep Tay awake at night knowing what could have been,

1252
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: what should have been?

1253
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 3: It used to? It definitely used to. I think once

1254
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 3: I came to the Raiders. That's that was another reason.

1255
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 3: Why is that being in four or five NFC championship

1256
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 3: games in eight years, and two of those years we

1257
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 3: didn't go to the playoffs, so every base almost every

1258
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 3: year we went to the playoffs, we went deep in

1259
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 3: the playoffs and just didn't get to the dance. So,

1260
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 3: you know, it used to hurt me a lot, And

1261
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 3: that's a big reason I was like, it kind of

1262
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 3: felt like that situation where you know, whether it's a

1263
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 3: friend or somebody you know, a family member, whatever, you know,

1264
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 3: you know it's bad, but you like, you know it

1265
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 3: may not work with the next one, but it's worth

1266
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 3: at least moving on from this. You know, like winning

1267
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 3: those games, it almost made it hurt a little bit

1268
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 3: more like versus just being a like I was hurt

1269
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 3: more after those Packer ones than I was, you know,

1270
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 3: last year, not going because you didn't even like we

1271
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 3: didn't show that we were a team that should have

1272
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 3: been there, you know what I mean.

1273
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: But we after my week ten on eleven ten, You're like,

1274
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: we're not going to the playoffs. Yeah, but in Green Bay,

1275
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: You're like, hold on, we got the MVP. I'm an

1276
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: All Pro. We got five, six, seven, eight Pro.

1277
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 5: Bowlers that first round by three times, and they got.

1278
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 3: To come through Lampo and got ass whooped by the

1279
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 3: most West Coast team that it was. So I don't

1280
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 3: think that the Packers can ever use that got to

1281
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 3: come up. We was practicing I'm talking about it was

1282
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 3: I think it was minus one in that game. But

1283
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 3: that we played in the in the in the playoffs,

1284
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, you know, and we came out firing too.

1285
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 5: The first drive. I think I had like like five catch.

1286
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: That night game.

1287
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm thinking we got this with and I'm feeling

1288
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 3: good because we mind you somehow, for eight years in

1289
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 3: Green Bay, every single time throughout the week it was

1290
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 3: always colder, and then in the game it be cold as.

1291
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 2: Hell, but it was like it wasn't cold like during

1292
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 2: the week.

1293
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 3: We have minus twenty in practice outside and people think

1294
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 3: that we just out there like just labbing, just you know,

1295
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 3: indoor whatever. We were stretching there, get get a little sweat,

1296
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:44,720
Speaker 3: come out, and then hit it running.

1297
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 5: You know, it's hard when.

1298
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 3: It's cold to get loosese right, So we start inside

1299
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 3: and then when practice start right outside, we out there labbing.

1300
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 3: And I'm out there in that so come game time,

1301
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 3: I didn't got the adrenaline the game time field and

1302
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 3: it's not as cold as it was, so I'm flying

1303
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 3: around thinking it's gonna be when the games and lo

1304
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 3: and behold, we come up short after being ahead the

1305
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 3: entire game once again. Now we're in the same situation

1306
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 3: and ended up missing the NFC Championship game my last year.

1307
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 3: And I think that one was essentially the straw that

1308
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 3: broke the camel's back.

1309
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: Did that hurt more than the Tampa lost because Tampa

1310
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: got I just knew you guys, had I put all

1311
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 1: my I shield all my chips in heay, I shoved

1312
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: all my chips. I say, dif the year right here,

1313
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: I say, I know Tom this is Tom's first year.

1314
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 2: Hey they got this one.

1315
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 5: Man. Look I say this.

1316
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 3: That I don't know which of those hurt more, but

1317
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 3: I'll say the one that hurt the most was my

1318
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 3: very first year. We I mean we're talking about I

1319
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 3: don't I don't know how well you remember that one

1320
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 3: with the whole fumble on side kick.

1321
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah yeah.

1322
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,280
Speaker 3: Yesterday the Seattle we was up fifteen points with basically

1323
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 3: no time left in the game.

1324
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 5: So we we damned the're doing this to the crowd.

1325
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 5: We all go home now, so over with we to

1326
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 5: the cer.

1327
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 2: Got that last pick of and.

1328
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 3: I'm and I'm uh yeah, we got a picking the

1329
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 3: middle of the field. And then I think Julius told

1330
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 3: ha or Morgan slide down. We end up giving the

1331
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 3: ball back to him.

1332
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 5: They go down.

1333
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 3: They didn't fake the field, goals scored it with alignment.

1334
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, what is going on, bro? So then that happened.

1335
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 3: I'm thinking my rookie year, we all were on a

1336
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 3: Super Bowl.

1337
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 2: This is easy. This is how the league is.

1338
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 3: And I ain't even barely do shit this year like that.

1339
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 3: I ain't like you playing with two Pro bowlers Like

1340
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 3: I came in and held my own, but it wasn't

1341
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 3: no justin Jefferson, Odell Beckham, you know, Jamar Chase rookie

1342
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 3: year by no means I felt good about what I

1343
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 3: was doing, and I felt like I didn't have the

1344
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,720
Speaker 3: same pressure as those guys, not being the first rounder.

1345
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 3: But you know, I feel like I was doing enough

1346
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 3: to feel good about it, and then boom just ganked

1347
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 3: it right up underneath it. So I had a real

1348
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 3: harsh introduction to the league as far as how hard

1349
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 3: it is to win in the playoffs, you know that

1350
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 3: first year, and then next year we go, you know,

1351
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 3: we're doing it again. I'm thinking we got it, and

1352
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 3: then another time. Then it keep happening later. So it

1353
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 3: just got to a point where I was like, all right, well,

1354
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 3: maybe it's just not meant to be. You know here

1355
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 3: I did. I gave this place everything I got. Maybe

1356
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 3: it's time to try to figure it out somewhere else.

1357
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: Do you wish you had gone for it on that

1358
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: far down when Matt Laflour, because you guys had like

1359
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: you had like first and goal, you had like three

1360
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: I think you had like three three cracks had like

1361
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: first and goal because.

1362
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 2: You got a first dive like Okay.

1363
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do. I do, and I don't.

1364
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 3: It's always hard for me to say that because I

1365
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 3: don't want to make it seem like I don't trust

1366
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 3: the code or this and that. But you asking me,

1367
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 3: and I do because and I ain't on defense saying

1368
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 3: you know whatever, like I got something to directly do

1369
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 3: with that, and it ain't no surprise that if it was,

1370
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 3: if we did, it was probably coming to me, right So,

1371
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 3: and if you tell me you got the opportunity to

1372
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 3: change this game right now, I've done that over the

1373
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 3: course of my career many times. So if you ask

1374
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 3: me in the moment, hey, Davante, what should we do

1375
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 3: right now? Should we throw you this ball? You know what,

1376
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 3: well my answer gonna be, you know, especially at that point,

1377
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 3: I'm we doing this too, Like that was That was

1378
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 3: a great year as far as the way.

1379
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 5: We were rolling Aaron and I.

1380
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 3: So you know, it hurt me to to not have

1381
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 3: the opportunity to be a little bit more aggressive in

1382
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 3: that moment. But like I said, sometimes you make decisions

1383
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 3: or decisions are made, you got to live with them.

1384
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs joins your former team and he's trying to

1385
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: recruit you to come back to your former team. Would

1386
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: that be something you would ever revisit. Would you revisit

1387
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: going back to Green Bay?

1388
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 3: I don't look, I'll never say never. But I gave

1389
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 3: the big part about this now, and it's a piece

1390
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 3: that I know you'll understand, But I don't know if

1391
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 3: most of the world out there that watches football would

1392
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 3: understand because they look at the opportunity as we're lucky

1393
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 3: to have this, not we are blessed and we put

1394
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 3: all this work in to do it, but we're lucky

1395
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 3: to have it. So for me, the quality of life

1396
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 3: at this point is another piece of it. You know,

1397
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 3: have it being in Green Bay, seeing that my daughters

1398
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 3: can't go outside, you know, after Halloween damn there because

1399
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 3: of how cold it is.

1400
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 5: She's sitting here.

1401
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 3: I got a picture of my daughter like literally, I

1402
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 3: think it was like November, like like fifth, like it's

1403
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,479
Speaker 3: it's still it ain't late late like that. She's sitting

1404
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 3: there with her hand on the window, just staring outside

1405
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 3: of the play structure, looking like the saddest little girl

1406
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 3: in the world.

1407
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 5: And I'm like, this sucks, man.

1408
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,439
Speaker 3: And now it could be Christmas night and they could

1409
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 3: be outside playing on the play structure out in Vegas now,

1410
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 3: So having that ability when when now I don't play

1411
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 3: for a long time, I've given everything that I can

1412
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 3: to this game. Being able to give something to my

1413
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 3: kids like that is another piece of it, you know,

1414
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 3: Like I put being a dad over anything, Like I

1415
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,919
Speaker 3: think I could play this position pretty good, but being

1416
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 3: a dad ain't nobody better. So I'm so I prioritize

1417
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 3: that my kids being in school and all this thing.

1418
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 3: I'm not one of them dudes that you know, if

1419
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 3: I was to get moved to another team, like it

1420
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 3: would really hurt me to have my kids be in

1421
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,959
Speaker 3: school in Vegas and me being in another city playing

1422
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 3: a game.

1423
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 5: I'm going three days somewhere.

1424
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 3: I dam't feel like I want to cry leaving my kids,

1425
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 3: you know, especially having two little girls. Like that's just

1426
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 3: the I'm wired. I really like spending time in being

1427
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 3: around my kids.

1428
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 2: And you got a new born on the way, little boy.

1429
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 5: And got my boy on the ways.

1430
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 2: You ain't going nowhere, That's what.

1431
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 3: I'm saying, thinking about doing all of that, like like

1432
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 3: that's just just a lot on my on my wife

1433
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 3: in which she you know, dropped everything. She's an esthetician

1434
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 3: and wanted to pursue her career a little bit harder

1435
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 3: and to drop it for you know, obviously, you know

1436
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 3: it's a pretty good deal for her too.

1437
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 5: She ain't losing out on too much.

1438
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 3: But yeah, but you know her being that unselfish, and

1439
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 3: you know, I just tried to do the same for them,

1440
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 3: and also it's a lot to enjoy for me here

1441
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 3: as well.

1442
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: How much, Dad, Look, there's no secret, Divonte, you wanted

1443
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: to contract extension for the Packers before they was willing

1444
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: to give you one. You come out that great season

1445
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: and they was like, okay, hey, hey, we got these.

1446
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 2: Numbers for you.

1447
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: How much did that play a fact a factor in

1448
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: you leaving? Because you felt like, Bro, I've been to

1449
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: I've been asking y'all for two years and now y'all

1450
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: wait now and somebody and I'm a free ache.

1451
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 3: Oh no, that's that's basically how it went coming into

1452
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 3: that year. Before you know, I had that unanimous All

1453
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 3: Pro and you know, and the trend was basically ever

1454
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 3: since my first Pro Bowl, it just got better.

1455
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 5: So it wasn't gonna make it easier on them.

1456
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 3: So I'm saying, look, right now, you know the type

1457
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 3: of player that you're getting, So what are you waiting on?

1458
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 3: And right now I'm telling you this is this was

1459
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 3: like so obviously going into the twenty one season. This

1460
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 3: is the off season going into that where Aaron was

1461
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 3: having his stuff in the media about whether or not

1462
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,439
Speaker 3: he was even gonna be there. So I'm telling you, like, look,

1463
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 3: right now, Aaron Rodgers' future here is uncertain. I'm willing

1464
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 3: if you do this now early, give me this extension

1465
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 3: like what I've earned. I'm not asking for I'm not

1466
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 3: somebody here, no bread. I'm saying, give me what I

1467
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 3: earned just a little bit early, which is not nothing

1468
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 3: that ain't new. This is something that happens for you know,

1469
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 3: generational players. You do that and it can benefit the

1470
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 3: club too. So I'm trying to tell him here, and

1471
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 3: I approached the right way. I said, we will, I

1472
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 3: won't even take into account that he may not be here.

1473
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 3: If we can do this right now, I'll be I'll

1474
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 3: be a packer. And they said, okay, well this is

1475
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 3: what we value right now, and they threw a number

1476
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 3: out there and it was absolutely laughable. So for me,

1477
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 3: I told my agent, I said, don't we don't even

1478
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 3: need to talk about nothing. Else, I'm gonna be there

1479
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 3: in camp. I didn't. I wasn't there in the OTA period.

1480
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 3: I showed up for mandatory mini.

1481
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 2: Camp because I ain't giving no money back.

1482
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 5: I wasn't. I ain't doing no reps.

1483
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 2: Now, I ain't no reps. But you you was holding

1484
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 2: in I.

1485
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 5: Was holding it. I ain't never heard that one. I

1486
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 5: was holding in man.

1487
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 3: And I told them boys, I said, look, I really

1488
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 3: love this place and I've given my all to it.

1489
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 3: So if you want to, if you want me to

1490
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 3: continue to be here, you know ten years plus, this

1491
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 3: is the way to do it.

1492
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 5: Let's do it now. They said that.

1493
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 3: They all, right, well, this is what this is what

1494
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 3: we see right now, and it just didn't make no sense.

1495
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 3: So I said, I'm gonna go and I'm gonna be there,

1496
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna give everything I got to this team.

1497
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 3: They not gonna know this. They ain't gonna feel none

1498
01:00:58,560 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 3: of the drama and all this.

1499
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: Stuff that I have towards you, because they y'all know,

1500
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: y'all doing me wrong because I got to go navigat

1501
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: an entire season, stay healthy.

1502
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 3: Under and I was the twelfth highest paid in the

1503
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 3: league at that point. Like you talking about dudes that's

1504
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 3: coming in that I haven't even really done anything like

1505
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 3: at all yet that's that's getting you know, they're getting

1506
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 3: paid off potential. So I'm sitting here like what are

1507
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 3: we thinking? And you could talk about like a lot

1508
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 3: of dudes don't want to play under these these tags

1509
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Speaker 3: these days. It was worse than that. I had no security,

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Speaker 3: so I had to go get Alloyd's of London policy

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01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 3: to make sure just in case anything happens that that's

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01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,919
Speaker 3: gonna give me something close to what my value would

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01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 3: be correct, you know. So I didn't win and spend money,

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01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 3: and when you get insurance, you hoping that you're wasting

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Speaker 3: the money. And yeah, so now I didn't put more

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Speaker 3: money at so I'm losing more money by being here, right,

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Speaker 3: But I got to do whatever to protect myself because.

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Speaker 2: You got a wife, got a family, so you need that.

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Speaker 3: And not to mention, I'm not the type of dude

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Speaker 3: that's gonna go out there, you know it's and I

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Speaker 3: ain't gonna mention no names. But some dudes out there

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Speaker 3: that get on that field just to be out there,

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Speaker 3: and they ain't gonna go across that middle fearless, Like

1524
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Speaker 3: how I do I'm going across, opening up, doing what

1525
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 3: I gotta do to make the play like like I

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01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 3: like I got security, which I don't.

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Speaker 1: And they sleep real good at night. They never gonna

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Speaker 1: have to worry about a Devonte got in some trouble.

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Speaker 3: Never not not, I mean, nose clean the whole time,

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Speaker 3: and like nothing even came up. I got one thing

1531
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Speaker 3: that's happened, and it was the cameraman little Fluke situation

1532
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Speaker 3: in Kansas City City, which I think everybody came to

1533
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 3: realize was I'm not the big bad wolf the way

1534
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Speaker 3: that they thought they would.

1535
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Speaker 2: Be, like, oh, there it is, Yeah, he a bad dude.

1536
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then they realized, okay, we was tripping. We

1537
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 3: would you know, we you know, whatever you want to

1538
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 3: say about it. But I did everything that I that

1539
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 3: I could for that organization to where I felt like

1540
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 3: I was deserving of something to make it happen to

1541
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Speaker 3: where we could, you know, make it work, and ultimately

1542
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 3: got to a point where I said, look, I'm gonna

1543
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 3: go and see what the market's talking about. And then

1544
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 3: they tagged me and I just said that's not gonna

1545
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 3: work for me. And you know, we ended up you know,

1546
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Speaker 3: working together and figured it out and here we are

1547
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Speaker 3: now quick math.

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