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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast presented by Bett three

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Speaker 1: six five. We are part of the Action Network. Today

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Speaker 1: is our week five Tuesday NFL episode. I am Chad Milman,

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Speaker 1: Chief Content Officer of the Action Network. We are coming

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Speaker 1: off a five and oh weekend our contest, folks. We

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Speaker 1: recorded our Sunday episode before Sunday Night Football, and as

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Speaker 1: get the best of every number. Today we will get

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Speaker 1: to our Simon Says and our exec Decision, both were

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Speaker 1: at the entire board and we begin narrowing down the

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Speaker 1: bring in my co host, my bff, my companion, Mike

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Speaker 2: So I'm in, how are we doing? Shad, Dude?

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Speaker 1: You know what, I felt great on Sunday, felt great

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Speaker 1: about the day. And you know what I did Monday morning,

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Speaker 1: looking for numbers. I'm putting notes into our script. I'm

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Speaker 1: doing my research, I'm doing my reading. I'm just getting ready.

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Speaker 1: And I thought about something we did differently this week

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Speaker 1: for the contest that we used to do every week

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Speaker 1: and the other contests we've done in the past, which

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Speaker 1: was we locked our picks on Thursday. And you know

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Speaker 1: when we when we were doing the contest in years past,

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Speaker 1: the other contests, they would lock their lines I think

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday or Wednesday, and we had till Sundays to submit.

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Speaker 1: So you and I by Wednesday or Thursday, we sort

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Speaker 1: of knew the five games you would put them in,

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Speaker 1: and then by Sunday we're just looking at the lines

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Speaker 1: and saying, Okay, do we like this better than this?

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Speaker 1: This better than this? I think that helped. Do you agree?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And I also felt like last week was easy,

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Speaker 2: that's the hardest part of you Some weeks there's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, we like seven or eight games and we're

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Speaker 2: last week we really had our five and then even

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Speaker 2: the ones we're thinking about putting in. I mean, we

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to do it again, like lock it in Thursday,

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Speaker 2: But if we wake up Sunday and there is a game,

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Speaker 1: week five before we do that quick update on our futures.

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Speaker 1: Simon and I like Justin Herbert to lead the league

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Speaker 1: Year award, is still the odds on favorite to win

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Speaker 1: And don't forget we like Josh Allen at ten to

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Speaker 1: to signon all right, Our theme this week is fading

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Speaker 1: the public, because that is what we like to do,

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Speaker 1: and this year the betting public, meaning when there are

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Speaker 1: fifty one percent or more of the tickets on a side.

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Speaker 1: This season, they are thirty three to twenty four to

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Speaker 1: three against the spread. The public has lost money each

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Speaker 1: to the past five years. It also might mean time

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Speaker 1: to start faith in the public even more aggressively. Simon,

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Speaker 1: we got the Chicago Bears visiting the Washington Commanders. They're

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Speaker 1: six and a half point underdogs. I got a lot

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Speaker 1: that showed the Bears are the only team in all

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Speaker 1: the professional sports that has not won a games since

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk bought Twitter. Last doc to two.

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Speaker 2: Now, you guys are the greatest tanking team ever. Chat.

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Speaker 2: I'll keep saying it's the damn truth. You're really good

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Speaker 1: Well, look now we've got a chance to get the

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Speaker 1: number one and the number two pick. The Bears have

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Speaker 1: lost fourteen consecutive games, a lot of twenty five plus

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Speaker 1: points in all of them. That's the longest streak in

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Speaker 1: Every part of my body is saying take the Bears

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Speaker 1: What are we supposed to do here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know some pros of coming on the Bears,

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Speaker 2: want to tack the Bears. I was hoping at State seven.

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Speaker 2: The pro money came in at six and a half.

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Speaker 2: It's like I want, Like you just said, the Bears

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Speaker 1: Reminder that the Thursday night football games in the early

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, by the way, fifty nine wins in his career.

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Speaker 1: Last night, the New York Football Giants put on a

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Speaker 2: No, normally I'd be all over this Giants number, but

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Speaker 1: So there's a couple things that I do think are

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Speaker 2: Right now, this is about even just when you're in

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing. We've seen this before. Teams who

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like, no, you nailed it. What we talked about

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Speaker 2: So I know they're going to make those corrections. On

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Speaker 2: if we like, well, we're hearing about Derek Carr and

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Speaker 1: Very close to making it the exact decision for the

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Speaker 2: But it's a Belichick effect the same reason idiots like

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Speaker 1: You know what, Yeah, I'm calling it now. I'm calling

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Speaker 2: I'm a foxhole guy. I commit to a team, I

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Speaker 2: We did this last week in Vegas. Don't do this

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Speaker 1: I'm doing it. Baltimore, Baltimore at Pittsburgh. The Steelers are

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Speaker 1: three and a half. This line moved down from four

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Speaker 2: Raw rom Mike Tomlin Spot. We win the game with

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Speaker 1: Not just that, but in this series, right like in

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Speaker 2: The greatest of all time. Look at your work.

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Speaker 1: When this line is three or more since two thousand

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Speaker 2: Made an opportunity to get a quality dude at a discount,

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Speaker 1: Now. I hate it because we didn't bet at at

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Speaker 2: everyone's coming on this Ravens team. But the Ravens are

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00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 2: banged up, like their team has a ton of injuries.

434
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 2: And you didn't really see that last week because the

435
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 2: Browns just rolled over. But he did see it against

436
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 2: that Colts team. It just seemed like the Ravens should

437
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 2: be much more superior than that Colts team. They kept

438
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 2: it close because the Colts do have talent. But you

439
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 2: know this Pittsburgh team, Chad, let's go, Mack. You're you're

440
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 2: making the right concas of all the best we talked about.

441
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 2: This is making me sick think about taking Pittsburgh. But

442
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 2: I think you're right. Like although stature right off. You

443
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 2: want to back the dog here, especially the home dog

444
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 2: in these divisional matchups, and yeah, four and a half

445
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 2: in the contest. If it's that in Sunday, I don't

446
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 2: know how we don't put that as on over five,

447
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 2: Like this is just a nice Tomblin spot. But man,

448
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 2: does it make me feel sick? Somebody got to be

449
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 2: all in for everybody to be all in.

450
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: Well, look, I think the big reason why we're talking

451
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 1: about it is because the Steelers defense is not what

452
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: it was in any point in this in this rivalry,

453
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: right and their secondary isn't very good right now. Their

454
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 1: run defense isn't very good.

455
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,160
Speaker 2: I feel like the coaching is just bad both.

456
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just not They're not the same team. So

457
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 1: it's giving me a little bit of pause.

458
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair.

459
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 1: We're hesitating right now. We are hesitating another big game,

460
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 1: Carolina at Detroit. Detroit is minus nine. Nick Giffen will

461
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: tell you this is an unofficial luck rankings bet because

462
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: there's a huge difference between Carolina and Detroit in terms

463
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: of luck, and in this scenario, luck teams meeting this

464
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: threshold that I'm discussing sixty three zero point five percent

465
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: against the spread since twenty eighteen, seventy one percent for

466
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: road teams, so huge luck differential. But Jared Goff like,

467
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 1: I feel like we got it back to Panthers.

468
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, a good spot for the Panthers. Where you know

469
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 2: Detroit just coming off a huge win. They party for

470
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 2: four days, right because it was a Thursday game. They

471
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 2: win a Lambeau. That's gotta be a fun weekend for

472
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 2: the boys, right, just getting after it. And then you

473
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 2: come back in on practice this week. Everyone's still blown.

474
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 2: Smoke up your ass all week Panthers. They just feel

475
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 2: the team teams are gonna start overlooking because they are

476
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 2: so bad even on film, they are really bad. Bryce

477
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 2: Young is really bad on film right now. I told you, like,

478
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 2: I would have been all over the Panthers last week

479
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: if it was Andy Dalton and I was completely like, Okay,

480
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: I'll go Vikings. It's Bryce Young and I want to

481
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 2: have the same mentality here where it's like, I don't

482
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 2: know how this kid's gonna get down the field to

483
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 2: score points, Like that's my biggest fear of this kid

484
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 2: right now. He doesn't have any command of the offense.

485
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 2: Where you have confidence in Cija, you have confidence and

486
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,479
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson to take the ball down the field, and yeah,

487
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 2: this is a really tough one Ka Chak because it's

488
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 2: such a big number and it's a really nice spot

489
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 2: to back Carolina. But I think it's one of those

490
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: people you can wait and hope this gets up to

491
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 2: ten because people are going to be sitting there just

492
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 2: like me and Chad, we know this numbers too high,

493
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 2: Like everyone knows this numbers too high. But the question

494
00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 2: is is this Detroit Ta just that good now, like

495
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 2: where they're just gonna be blowing out steamroll in this

496
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 2: teams because what they did to Green Bay was really impressive.

497
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: Like he came out I believe you threw a pick

498
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: on their first drive, gave up three points, he went

499
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 2: out there, drove the field to score a touchdown and

500
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: there was no looking back like golf Golf got that

501
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 2: energy right now and he's at home inside this is

502
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 2: usually where we back him. So this is a hard one.

503
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: I'm definitely fighting myself with it where it's like I

504
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 2: know this is a big number. I know I should

505
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: take the Panthers, but I make this number ten right now.

506
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 2: My value is typically on Detroit. But it's just like

507
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 2: so Chalky, I just can't get there.

508
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually put in our notes. Is it possible

509
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: the Lions are the right side in this spot?

510
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 2: According to my model, they are, But like the human elements,

511
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: I just it's hard for me to get there, just

512
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: because of just having this whole week after that Green

513
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 2: Bay win. But again, they might be that team. I

514
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,359
Speaker 2: told you I wanted to move them above the Dallas

515
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 2: if they had won that game against Green Bay. I'm

516
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 2: literally right there just because of the injury to Digs.

517
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 2: With Dallas now like the literally power ratings right there.

518
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: This is another game. If they win this and Dallas loses,

519
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, I won't be shocked next week

520
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 2: on money for a year. And it's like, yeah, I

521
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 2: got I got the lines now number three's let me

522
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 2: tell you something. I love this team now you can

523
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: feel it. Man, you're gonna be ready to go man,

524
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 2: piss and vinegar. I love this team. They're that team

525
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 2: right now. So definitely definitely an interesting game for them.

526
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 2: Oh wow, you see the staff from Evan. They haven't

527
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: been fair by a touchdown or more since September tenth,

528
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, and that was against the Jets. So Yeah,

529
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 2: been been about five years for this Lion's team since

530
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: they've been favored by this many points. Hello, try you.

531
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: Houston and Atlanta. This is a game that we talked

532
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: about in the Sunday Night Show. When the line opened

533
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: it was three and a half and you said, I'm

534
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: waiting for it to get below three. You didn't have

535
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: to wait long. Is it one Monday morning? Now Atlanta

536
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: is favored by two. I texted you yesterday and said,

537
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: have you bet Atlanta yet? It minus one? And you said, no,

538
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: what are you waiting on?

539
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 2: I was opening to get to a dog. I was

540
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: just like all week, it's just gonna be the CJ

541
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: Shrout Show. Like I said that on Thing Sunday Night.

542
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 2: It's like I saw the tape. I watched the game

543
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 2: that I texted yesterday. I rewatch and it's like, this

544
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: kid is incredible. He's playing out of his mind. Every

545
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: time he's about to get buried by TJ Watt, he

546
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 2: made the right read, the right hot route, the right throw. Crazy.

547
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 2: I mean it really is crazy. Like never never saw

548
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 2: this coming. I had CJ for months as my number

549
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: one quarterback. It was what I pitched the team to

550
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: take and I think you know, a week or two

551
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: before the season the draft, I should say I moved

552
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 2: Richardson to my number one QB just because of a

553
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 2: cognitive test. Boy, do I feel like a fucking idiot?

554
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 2: Like those tests are bullshits apparently, because this kid is

555
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 2: a football savant, like the reads he's making. Maybe it's

556
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 2: just the perfect moment, Chad. Maybe this kid just having

557
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 2: a moment. It's all clicking, and he'll come back to

558
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: Earth crashing to Earth. But we've never seen anything like this.

559
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: I'm having a hard time how to handicap it. Atlanta

560
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: is going to be a big bet for me this week.

561
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: I'm all over this number. We do what science says.

562
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 2: I love this spot for Atlanta. Everyone is totally giving

563
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 2: up on this team. He used to be the most

564
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 2: public dog of the week. Atlanta is not as bad

565
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 2: as they've looked people, And I get where you're coming from.

566
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: The hype on the Texans, like, oh, you just don't

567
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: believe this kid. We do believe in him, me and Chad.

568
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: If you go back and lift our draft shows, we're

569
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: all over CJ hyping him up, talking about how great

570
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: this kid could be. I never saw this coming, Like

571
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: what we've seen through four weeks. Is really is something

572
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: just to be be incredible. And if you're a Houston fan, hell,

573
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: they might be the most excited fan based on football.

574
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: Like it looks like they got their guy, like they

575
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: nailed the draft. So I hate to be the guy

576
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: that dragged them back down here, but this is insane,

577
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: Like this team, the hype, all of it, there should

578
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: be three. That's why I said to us Sunday, like

579
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: this goes blow three, I'm gonna be over with Atlanta team.

580
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: And it is. And do not be shocked if CJ

581
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: has a total meltdown in this game and he just

582
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: has a bad game where he had a great matchup

583
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: against Jacksonville. He played well, but wasn't like incredible. They

584
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: had a kick return, they had a bunch of stuff

585
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: in that game. And then you had this Pittsburgh game

586
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: where he did play really well. Like I said, he

587
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: had incredible throws and both his tackle as well. He's

588
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: got like I don't even think he has a single

589
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: starter maybe his one starter left on that line from preseason.

590
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: It's all about Atlanta hearing me where it's like I

591
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: don't think ritters as bad as people perceive he had

592
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: horrible game. I think you know, they get them back

593
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: on track. This is to me a total trendsetter of

594
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: your entire season. Atlanta loses this, I think I miss

595
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: missed the playoffs. Houston wins this. Now I have to

596
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: start thinking, Okay, this team actually might be for real

597
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: in this division. It might make the playoffs. But as

598
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 2: far as it goes and how we play the situations,

599
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: this is a classic letdown spot from Houston. They played

600
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: against Pittsburgh, who you know, say what you want about him.

601
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: That was really a Kenny pickat just a total meltdown game,

602
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: like he gifted that to them. So I know it

603
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: truly hard to back Atlanta because I know all of

604
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 2: you guys watched that game in England. You gotta forget it.

605
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: You got to move on to this week and play

606
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: the number. And you're getting a good number here against

607
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: a rookie coach and a rookie QB on the road

608
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 2: under three in Atlanta. Come on, we gotta take this number.

609
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, Desmond Ritter is going to be the starting quarterback.

610
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: There was conversation, at least speculation rumor people you're hoping,

611
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: you know, with Taylor Heineke be the starting quarterback. Arthur

612
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: Smith said Desmond Ritter is going to be the starter.

613
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: Crazy.

614
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: By the way, According to the luck rankings, the Falcons

615
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: were the least lucky team. Oh no, the second least

616
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: lucky team this past weekend. Bears were three, Falcons were two.

617
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 1: We're going to get to number one. So you know,

618
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that you want to fade

619
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: when it comes to the Texans and their performance, and

620
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: you want to bet on as far as the Falcons

621
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: and their performance, and you're not wrong. Seventy two percent

622
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: of the money of the tickets coming in on the

623
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: Texans right now.

624
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 2: Like, but is the money coming in Atlanta? It's gotta

625
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 2: be pro money.

626
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: There's not a ton of money on Atlanta right now.

627
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: But shocked by that, Yeah, I assume as pro pro

628
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: money will come in on this one.

629
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: No, No, I mean I think pro money has come

630
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: in on it, which is why it's moved, you know,

631
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: But I mean it hasn't. It's moved in the direction

632
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: of the Texans. So there hasn't been a ton of

633
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: money coming in at the books I'm looking at on

634
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: the Falcons right now. But that might change now that

635
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: it's at It got down to one, and now it's

636
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: at one and a half and two in some places,

637
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: so it's starting to balance out. Titans visiting the Colts. Look,

638
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: I asked a question on Sunday night about the Titans.

639
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: You shot me down. Some would say it wasn't very nice.

640
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: The people who sometimes feel like you're not very nice

641
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: to me would say that. You might say you were

642
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: just answering the question. Whatever it is. I bet the

643
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: Colts at one and a half, and now the number

644
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: is closer to pick. Money's coming in on the Colts.

645
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: Like what you got the Colts at a dog?

646
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: No, No, I bet the Colts at minus one and

647
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: a half.

648
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: Oh so money's coming on the Titans.

649
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: The bets are on the Titans. The money is on

650
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: the Colts right now.

651
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I just again another time. I like the

652
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: spot where we talk all the time. It's all about

653
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: the number. If the Stummers plus three, maybe two and

654
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: a half, I'd be all over this Titans team. It's

655
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: too short, it's too much of a reaction to what

656
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: they did last week to Joe Burrow. And the simplest

657
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: way I could break it down to people is the

658
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: Titans are really, really, really good at the detackle position,

659
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: but the rest of their defense has a lot of

660
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: holes and a lot of weaknesses to it. And the

661
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: way you can attack it is getting a mobile quarterback

662
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: outside the pocket against them, and you saw against the

663
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: Browns that's what exactly what the Browns did with Watson,

664
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: and it worked really well against the Tennessee team. I

665
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: really liked his coaching staff for the Colts. Like watching

666
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: that game yesterday, all the positions they put Anthony Richardson in,

667
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: it really looks like it's all clicking there. Like the

668
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 2: same thing where CJ is being put in good positions

669
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: to succeed with this Texans team. It feels the same

670
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: with Richardson. And we talked about he had a slow

671
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: start in their first half, right it's like he's coming

672
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: back from an injury. You know, these rookies are all

673
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: going to hit different walls at different points, and I thought, Okay,

674
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: he's gonna let this one slip away. It was just

675
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: gonna be a bad game against the Rams. He totally

676
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: flipped it in the second half and really made some

677
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: incredible throws with Aaron Donald tackling and things like that,

678
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: which if you like film room where we're breaking down

679
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: some Richardson plays tomorrow, it's all about the number for

680
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,239
Speaker 2: this one for me, where I totally get it. If

681
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: you're like, well, you guys always said bet Vrabel as

682
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 2: a dog. Totally fair, But it's it's all about situations.

683
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: And we faded Rabel as a three and a half

684
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: point dog against Cleveland like that was just playing a spot,

685
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: playing the situation. It feels kind of the same here

686
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 2: where this Colts team is better than people perceive and

687
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 2: Tennessee is not as good as people perceive. Like that

688
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 2: Bengals team just is not the same teams they were

689
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: last year. I think people need to get rid of

690
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: that idea in their head right now, Like Joe Burrow

691
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 2: clearly is not the same guy. So we're buying low

692
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: on a team the Colts that you know, they almost

693
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: came back. I believe it was twenty three to three

694
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: or twenty three nothing, and they almost came back and

695
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: stole that game from the Rams. I just I like

696
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 2: this team's moxie, and I like this number and Richardson

697
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: they keep put him in the best position to win,

698
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 2: and looking at this matchup, I think Tennessee's defense is

699
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: really gonna struggle with the playing style of Richardson. So yeah,

700
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 2: Little Spooky take a rookie head coach and a rookie

701
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: quarterback against Rabel. But I'm gonna trust the number. I

702
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: think it's a good spot here. So not shocked to

703
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 2: see that it's a lot of tickets right now in Tennessee.

704
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: It just feels like the culture of the smart play Simon.

705
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,600
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706
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707
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709
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714
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715
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716
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719
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720
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: All right, one of other games that is fascinating, and

721
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: you just mentioned Cincinnati. On Sunday night, when we talked

722
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: about Cincinnati and Arizona, the Bengals were favored by six.

723
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: Now they're favored by three, moved to five. While we

724
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: were recording, it just kept moving. So much love for

725
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: the Cars because of how they compete, so much hate

726
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: for the Bengals, who look lost. At some point, we

727
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: got to think about betting the Bengals here, right.

728
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: You know, that's why it scares me where it's like

729
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 2: I can't live there banging. They're begging for Bengals money.

730
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 2: It's crazy how it's already shifted that much. But yeah,

731
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: you'll lose money on the Bengals enough. I guess the

732
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: public's just totally off of them. So don't don't know

733
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 2: what to do this one. Like I wanted to take

734
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: the Cardinals. We talked about this one. I was hoping

735
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: to go back up and it's gone complete other directions.

736
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: So this will be a quick one. We'll probably touch

737
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 2: more on Thursday. But I got no opinion on it

738
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: right now. It's like it's sitting there at three. I

739
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 2: want to take the Bengals, but like be and Chat,

740
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 2: had been around the block too long, just up right

741
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 2: into it. So I'm gonna keep waiting, but definitely very

742
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: tempting to back this Bengals team that, yes, they are

743
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: very bad, I don't know if they're this bad like

744
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 2: the Cardinals. Still as good as they've played and they've looked,

745
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: it's the team that has a lot of weaknesses. So

746
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 2: definitely pretty interesting that we're getting this number here and

747
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: a Bengals team that didn't they just hang three? Are

748
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: they part of that equation from last week? Are they

749
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 2: a team that only put up three points last week?

750
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 2: Where it's like, are they part of the sixty one percent?

751
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 2: We're supposed to back them here? So definitely, if it

752
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: gets a two and a half in our contest, I

753
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: don't know me and Chad Sunday more than that, that's

754
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: gonna be a conversation that's gonna be tough to pass

755
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: on taking the Bengals at that number.

756
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: Well, look, this is when betting gets interesting, right. Why

757
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: do we decide that some teams that look terrible are

758
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: the right ones to play in the bounce back? And

759
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: some teams that look terrible are the wrong ones to

760
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: play in the bounce back like it's it's so nuanced.

761
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: The line is always moving on these formulas. It's not

762
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: just a solid play this team because of AC. Let's

763
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: play this team because of why system Like you got

764
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: to think about everything, and Cincinnati's offense does not look good.

765
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: So we're gonna have a lot of hard conversations come

766
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: Thursday and come Sunday. If this line keeps moving, I

767
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 1: think it'll settle at three and then we're just gonna

768
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: decide did it move too much? This This next game,

769
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: to me, is fascinating. The Eagles visiting the Rams. It

770
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: was at five and a half, it's been bet down

771
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: to four and a half. Believe the Rams are undefeated

772
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: against the spread. The Eagles are undefeated in real games

773
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: and still haven't looked very good. So what do we

774
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: make of these teams?

775
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 2: I think you had a good READO. I think you

776
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: said you liked the Rams and you were like, think

777
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: about taking them f five and a half. And my

778
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: pause was I thought Stafford had gotten banged up in

779
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 2: their game, and I wanted to hear what the reports were.

780
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 2: And it sounds like he's gonna play through whatever the

781
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: injury is. McVeagh canon said, like he thinks he's gonna play.

782
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: We're apparently supposed to got Cooper Cupp back. That's why

783
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: we like the Rams, Like we were saying, if you've

784
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 2: got Cooper Cup, you know, with all these other guys

785
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 2: who have really showed up here at even Williams are

786
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: running back for the Rams, has look great. So you know,

787
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: Pooka set the record. I think everyone's talking about it

788
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: where it's like, is this guy just gonna fall off

789
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 2: a cliff now with Cooper Cup coming back? I don't

790
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: really see it being like that. Like Stafford seems to

791
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 2: be comfortable this kid, and even when he was triple covered,

792
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 2: Stafford's still a trust in him, where like instead of

793
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: looking for other guys, Stafford like trusted himself about to

794
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: fit in the window and for Pooka to make the

795
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: catch and he does, Like the kids got incredible hands.

796
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, Chad, like if we're talking about feeling a

797
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 2: little little chalky, it's probably is taking the Rams here,

798
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: but lucky for us it's I mean, it's not like

799
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 2: if you want to grab the four and a half,

800
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: I would now I could see this keep drop. I

801
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: could see if it's if Stafford's all good to go,

802
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: I could see this by game time getting down to

803
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: three and a half. This this is a crazy game

804
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 2: where it's it's like I think Chad Rayden saying, there

805
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: are a lot of questions right now about the Eagles

806
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 2: even though they are four and oh, but this is

807
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 2: a great matchup for that Eagles D line Like this,

808
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 2: this this front five for the Rams ain't nothing. Ain't

809
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 2: nothing brought Rave home about. So if you could, I'd

810
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 2: grab the four and a half now, just because I

811
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 2: do think this will keep dropping. The pros just seem

812
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 2: to love this Rams team. We've seen it, like Chad

813
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: just said, three to zero one and depends when you

814
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: got that number. That that one was a push against

815
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: the Bengals. You could have got six and a half

816
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 2: and we gave it out that Sunday night and you

817
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: could have got three and a half all day and

818
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 2: Monday the next day. So they're really to a lot

819
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 2: of people, there are four No. This Rams team has

820
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: just been incredible this season for covering.

821
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a tricky game, Like I know

822
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: in my head, the right side is the Rams and

823
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: in my heart. I keep thinking the Eagles are just

824
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: getting better and better, and they're just one of those

825
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: teams they play with the kind of confidence where they're

826
00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: not they don't they don't feel the pressure. They're not

827
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 1: acting with irrational urgency is what I would call it,

828
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: meaning they know they're good, they know how to win,

829
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: They're putting themselves in a position to win when they

830
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: need to, and they're working out their issues at the

831
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: same time, and that's really fucking hard to do. Like

832
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: they're you know, they're changing the wheels on a semi

833
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: as it rolls down the road and that's just impressive.

834
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 2: So I like, yeah, they got bad injuries too. There

835
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: are number two and number three corners are out and

836
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 2: their middle starting linebackers out. So it is a team

837
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 2: that if Stafford's got all his guns back, you're gonna

838
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: be able to pass the ball. We just saw Sam

839
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: Howe look like an All Pro against the secondary.

840
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: Yep, the Chiefs are on the road at the Vikings

841
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: on Sunday night. I was very tempted to take the

842
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: Chiefs or the Vikings at plus six.

843
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, good call, and.

844
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: I didn't do it.

845
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 2: You know, I couldn't get there with you because I

846
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 2: was like, oh, this number will keep going up, because again,

847
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: the Chiefs hadn't played yet, and our whole thinking was,

848
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: if the Chiefs do cover this number tonight, you might

849
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: be able to get six and a half. Seven. Luckily

850
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 2: for me and Chad, they did not cover that number,

851
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 2: and my name Mahomes took the slide right because he

852
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: knew there was some BS holding penalty a couple of

853
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: plays before, and you know, looking at this Minnesota team,

854
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: it is scary to back this number. But me and

855
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: Chad said all the time, we only backed Mahomes when

856
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: he's under a field goal or a dog. We fade

857
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: Mahomes and he's over a field goal. So we're getting five,

858
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: five and a half. People like it sucks, but we're

859
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 2: playing the percentages here, Like, if you play the percentages,

860
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: this is a smart bet to make on Minnesota. Yes,

861
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: Kirk looked like dog shit against Carolina. This is a

862
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 2: different scenario. This is Kirk at home. Kirk at home

863
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 2: is a different play. He always plays better at home.

864
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm not going to another thing I

865
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 2: want to react to is I said something looks right

866
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: about the Chiefs offense, and we saw that against the Jets, right,

867
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,479
Speaker 2: he had all those terrible picks and those turnovers. I'm

868
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: trying not to react to that because this Minnesota defense

869
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 2: is horrid. Bull They are so bad. If you look

870
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: on paper this defense, man, they might be bottom twenty six,

871
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: twenty seven, like they're way down there, one of the

872
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: worst defenses in football. So definitely a game where you're

873
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 2: making this bet on the Vikings, it's a bet on

874
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins. Like, That's what me and Chat are saying here,

875
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: is like, Kirk will keep us in this game, He'll

876
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 2: be able to keep up with Mahomes and score points.

877
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 2: Hate it. But another one that's like might not be

878
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: in our big balls better of the week. Maybe that

879
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 2: is every week on against the Chiefs. But it feels

880
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 2: that way where it's like take Kirk and the points here,

881
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 2: it's too big of a spread like this to me

882
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: should be closer to four, five, five and a half.

883
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: It's a good number. So, yeah, sucks. I talked you

884
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: off to getting the six. Chat, you were spot on

885
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 2: getting that Sunday night. But that's one it is I

886
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 2: regret not grabbing because you know we had a good read.

887
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: We should have took the number, and we should have

888
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 2: known that the Chiefs weren't going to cover that. So

889
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 2: that's definitely a tough one to swallow.

890
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: Here's a number that is scary if you're going to

891
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: bet on the Minnesota Vikings against arguably the greatest statistical

892
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: quarterback who's ever lived. Already, they have allowed the sixth

893
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: highest completion percentage all time through four games so far

894
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: this year. This is a shootout game, right, Like, this

895
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: is the exact type of game Kansas City comes into

896
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: Minnesota and it is a classic witching hour game, final

897
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: possession game. Like that's how this game to me ends

898
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: up going it is. You know how you like that

899
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: game from Kirk Cousins. To me, that's how it all right.

900
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: Our favorite team, the New York Jets visiting the Denver Broncos.

901
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 1: Broncos are two and a half point favorites. Broncos defense.

902
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: I just gave you the stat about the Vikings. The

903
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: Broncos defense has allowed the highest completion percentage all time

904
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 1: through four games. Meanwhile, we have to be asking ourselves

905
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: to the Jets see something with Zach Wilson they think

906
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: they can replicate against the defense like this. I feel

907
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: like we're at peak Jets. I know it's hard to

908
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: take the Broncos. He might be a pete Broncos too,

909
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 1: But the Broncos might be the right side here.

910
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: Yeah they are. Yeah, this this number is two short.

911
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 2: If it was three and a half, I would have

912
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 2: loved the Jets. They'd been a great number. Another time

913
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 2: to fade this Broncos team over a field goal, that'd

914
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: have been great. But it's not like people are now

915
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: in on Zach Wilson. They're thinking what you're thinking, which

916
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: is like, well, if you can do it against the

917
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: Chiefs such a great defense, surely you'll be able to

918
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: pass and do well against this terrible defense on the

919
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: Denver And it's like, NFL don't work that way. Like

920
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 2: one game you got, the next game you don't. That's

921
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: what makes so hard the quarterback position. It's like all

922
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: these guys are uber talented and great athletes. It's weak

923
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: to week consistency. That's the hardest thing in the NFL.

924
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 2: It's like to be consistent week the week. Such a

925
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: letdown spot for this Jets team like that was. I

926
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: feel like they put everything into that Chiefs game. It

927
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: was right there. I mean that guy, I think it

928
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: was a punt, right, it was twenty twenty. They punted it.

929
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 2: This guy had one man to beat and he tripped

930
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 2: up for this Jets team. They'd end up not winning

931
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 2: that game, and it was like it was all there

932
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: for that team. On the flip side, Denver, even if

933
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 2: you're scared off by this defense, it's Russell Wilson that's

934
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 2: making me feel okay taking this number check Like this

935
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 2: guy has been playing really well in this Sean Payton

936
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: offense and he's not doing the stupid shit he was

937
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: doing last year. Like it's night and day seeing what

938
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: he did last year to this year, where if it's

939
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: not there, he's not going to just force it. You

940
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 2: either use his legs, he'll throw it out a bounce

941
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: or take the easy check down instead of forcing it

942
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 2: turn the ball over, which he couldn't stop doing last year.

943
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: So I love what I've seen from Russ this year.

944
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 2: It's none of it, none of the blame I put

945
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: on him for what Denver start. It's all been about

946
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 2: their defense. So totally fair. If you're a hesitant because

947
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 2: Denver has one of the worst I mean, Chat has

948
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 2: told you they have one of the worst defenses ever statistically,

949
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: but Russell Wilson fake makes me feel confident taking this one.

950
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: Like I'm getting Russ against Zach Wilson. Pretty comparable teams, right,

951
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd give the Jets a little bit of

952
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 2: an edge just because their defense is that much better

953
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: of a unit, but not that much difference than make

954
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 2: it under our field goals. So I get a publics

955
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: and to come in on this Jets team. They're going

956
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 2: to be hyped up about this sac Wilson stuff. But

957
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: I gotta just fade that noise and take what I

958
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: think is the better quarterback right now and Russell Wilson

959
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: under a field goal at home.

960
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: It's so interesting because Russell Wilson, we expected him to

961
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: be better with Sean Payton. No one expected this defense

962
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: to be nearly as historically bad as it has been,

963
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: and that's been their biggest issue Russell Wilson, just like

964
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: in our first couple of games in the first half,

965
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: like they even made adjustments off of that. But this

966
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: defense can't stop anybody.

967
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

968
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,360
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990
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Speaker 1: and a half. This was an immediate bet on our

991
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: Sunday Night pot. I can tell you of all the

992
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: bets I've made so far. This is the biggest bet

993
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: I've made this week. To be the biggest bet I

994
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: made this week. I think there is such a discrepancy

995
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: between this Niners team and this Cowboys team, And this

996
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys team is getting way too much credit from the

997
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: market for a team they were in Week one, not

998
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: the team they are in Week five.

999
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard for me to say, just because I

1000
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 2: do think Dallas is so good. But you know, we're

1001
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 2: talking about these two teams and how I feel about them.

1002
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: Chat your spot on. I said it on Sunday Night.

1003
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 2: I'd make the forty nine ers a small favorite, and

1004
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: even if they were in Dallas, So of course I'm

1005
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: taking the forty nine ers here. And you know, it's

1006
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 2: not just because I hate doing this stuff, because it's like, yeah,

1007
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 2: I'm just shitting on the Cowboys, but a lot does

1008
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: go into where it's like they do beat up on

1009
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: these bad teams, like that's Dak's specialty. He is so

1010
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 2: good against these bad teams, and maybe I do need

1011
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 2: to adjust to that. And you know, say what you

1012
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: want about that Cardinals team, like, well he lost that

1013
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: bad team that was a classic. They kind of just

1014
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: overlooked that team and that doesn't really happen with them,

1015
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 2: And looking at this match up here with the forty

1016
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 2: nine ers, we kind of talked about Sunday where it's like,

1017
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: how do I not back this horn Airs team? It's

1018
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 2: all it's all buzzing right, Like McCaffrey's look great. Pretty Yes,

1019
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 2: he doesn't looked as incredible as he did last year,

1020
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 2: but little things I talked about, I think he's doing

1021
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: really well. He's checking out a certain looks, making other

1022
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: looks where it's like fifty to fifty ball downfield. He

1023
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 2: was not throwing that last year. This year he is

1024
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 2: doing He's trusting his receivers. Ayuk is supposed to be back,

1025
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 2: you know, if he's if everything is healthy right now

1026
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: for this forty nine ers team where Dallas has had

1027
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 2: their injuries, Okay Cooks, their number three receiver has been out.

1028
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 2: We already know Digs is out for the season. That's

1029
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,399
Speaker 2: a big deal to this team. Like you went from

1030
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: having a real shutdown corner, a ballhawk, a guy who

1031
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 2: gets what was it eighteen interceptions in three seasons? Its

1032
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: some crazy number like that. It's just gone from this

1033
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,919
Speaker 2: Dallas defense. And you know the flip side. He saw

1034
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 2: the Cardinals team run the ball everywhere they wanted against

1035
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 2: this Dallas team. That is Dallas's achilles heel, and that

1036
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 2: will continue to be that way until they address getting

1037
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 2: a good d tackle that can stop the run. We're

1038
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 2: a linebacker that can stop the run. They didn't do

1039
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 2: that offseason, right, They went out and they addressed other positions.

1040
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 2: So that's their biggest weakness. And the best two teams,

1041
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 2: the NFC, are the best two running teams in all

1042
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 2: of football.

1043
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: All right, Sorry for those listening live and watching live,

1044
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: We had a little bit of a laptop crash. The

1045
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: laptop got too hot because the takes were too hot. Yeah,

1046
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: this is so far my biggest bet of the week,

1047
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: one of the bigger bets I've made this season. But

1048
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: that is that's our take on the Cowboys and the

1049
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: and the Niners. We like the Niners. Here Monday Night Football,

1050
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: Green Bay visiting the Raiders. Raiders two point underdogs here.

1051
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: Raiders were the most unlucky team in Week four. I

1052
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: talked about the Bears, you know, I talked about the

1053
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: Bears and I talked about the Falcons. Look, we were

1054
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: both on the Raiders against the Chargers. Even though they

1055
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: gave multiple short fields to the Chargers, they still had

1056
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: a chance to score. For a bad read by a

1057
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback in his first start at the Chargers three

1058
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 1: yard line led to a pick. I'm getting a home

1059
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: dog in prime time. I feel like we got to

1060
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: take the Raiders here.

1061
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll save my big breakdown for Thursday show

1062
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 2: and this one. Yeah, Raiders, I love love love them

1063
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: this week, love them in this spot. Hoping this gets

1064
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 2: the three great great Bilo opportunity. But even on Sunday night,

1065
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 2: when I saw this number, I was like, well, I

1066
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 2: can end up on the Raiders again this week. So

1067
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 2: I'm grabbing the two and a half now. I think

1068
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 2: you all should just in case Jimmy g gets cleared

1069
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 2: and the nummer does come down. But even if so O'Connell,

1070
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 2: I like what I saw from the kids, so definitely

1071
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 2: a game. Well, I'm gonna break down more for you

1072
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 2: guys on Thursday, but yeah, grab that number now, two

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