WEBVTT - Mobile QBs: How much do they really help? 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:06.440 Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio. Time 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:10.440 now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio. You're a weekly 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:14.400 source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:17.919 whatever stupid stuff they decided to drop into the show. Now, 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:23.200 here's your host, Paul Charchi. Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:26.600 I am Paul Charchy and my co host today is 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:31.440 Brian Johnson. Hey Brian, what's up charch Long time no see, Yeah, 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:33.239 it has been a little while since you've been on 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:34.839 the show. I think we had a couple of fishes. 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:37.000 I think we had a mad in there. Yeah, so 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:41.040 breaking down like actual football games, I believe. Yeah, pulling 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:44.560 for the Jaguars to win team close to Super Bowl. 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:46.400 Ball back that last show you mean, yeah, yeah, the 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:48.440 show I was a while ago that it was like 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:50.959 a long time ago. It was. You're also a long 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:53.880 time ago Chop podcast. Yea for the Guilloteam League, So 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:55.720 we should we should fire up one of those maybe 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:58.520 next week, talk about some of the things that are 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:02.720 are lessons learned. Um, it will be a drafting season 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:06.520 pretty soon. I mean it already is, really, but for 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:11.560 Guilloteen leagues, specifically. Yes, Yeah, for some people, they're already 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:13.959 getting their best ball teams going for next year. Oh 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:15.880 you're talking to one. Yeah, I know, I know. I 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:18.959 mean I love that about you. That's fantastic. It is 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:22.600 fascinating just to watch the ebbs and flows of ADPs. Yeah, 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.600 I mean, it's got to be radically changing now. Oh yeah, 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:28.839 I've seen it already. Some players. I mean, I could 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:31.920 talk for over an hour right now to just give 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:34.560 me one name. Where is Bejean Robinson's going to be 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:36.880 the first player taking a rookie and Dynasty drafts. No, 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:40.560 he's he's going. Where is he going in you know, redraft? 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:45.319 Anywhere from tenth to like so late first to mid second, 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:49.840 not getting past or pick fifteen sixteen. That's about as 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:52.000 late as your seat him go. And obviously we don't 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:53.920 even know where he's playing as it right now, but 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:56.840 he's he's RB four basically. I don't know that I 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:58.840 was on any shows with you in which we've talked 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:00.480 about this, but I've talked about it a couple of 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:05.160 times throughout January and into February. I think there's a 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:09.440 decent chance he ends up in Cincinnati or Kansas City 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:13.600 and becomes just a dynaball, just a block buzz because 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:17.600 I think seams are so hesitant to draft or running back, 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:21.040 understandably so for reasons. Everybody that's listening to this understands 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:23.920 in the first round that he could easily fall to 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:26.120 the bottom of the first round and then one of 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:28.800 these elite off he just walks into an elite offense 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.480 at the bottom of the first round. An intriguing option 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.400 I've heard and it makes sense is the Giants they 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:40.280 just reboot s Quon Barkley. Basically, Barkley, pay Barkley. They're 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:43.200 probably not gonna pay Barkley now what he wants, which 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:45.000 sadly is him a lot when it comes to running. 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:48.120 Bit but you're you're a little kid growing about there, 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:51.080 great football player. Don't play running back, be a punter, 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.800 play cornerback like any the other skilled position than running 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:56.160 back if you want to get paid, because you gotta 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:59.239 work hard for that money. Man, it's the second contract. 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:03.160 Here's the and you understand the team's position. How many 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:07.000 running backs get a second contract and the team's glad 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:11.480 they did it, and you know, almost never. It just 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:13.760 goes to show how bad that pick was for the Giants. 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.600 Back then there were no position to spend the fourth 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.720 overall pick well on a running back. Now, he was 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.080 like the last thing. That's like the last piece you 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.160 go for, right almost in fantasy football and reality football 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:26.680 is you go big at running back once you got 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.239 everything else in place, all right, But in fairness, Barkley 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:32.359 won Rookie of the Year, and he was his rookie year. 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:35.960 He was awesome, he was so good, and then just 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:39.720 the injuries derailed him. And now you know, you just 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:41.840 you feel like you can't the Giants can't give him 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:44.080 a second running back. But yeah, but I mean now 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:46.000 when there they've sort of have a team in place, 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:51.400 they can't afford to pay him essentially, so but again, bijon, Yeah, 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:53.920 the hype is real already. But yeah, if he lands 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.200 on one of those soft places, like you said, soft 0:03:56.240 --> 0:04:00.840 as in good like yeah, Kansas City piece Miami, am well, 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:04.640 Miami lost their first round pick, so not Otherwise that 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:06.440 would have been an ideal spot for him. We've been 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:09.800 twenty three, could be a Minnesota Viking perhaps, and maybe 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:12.080 that'd be a pretty good landing spot for him too, really, 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:15.280 but yeah, it's ever since Barkley he's the flashiest rookie 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:18.920 we've seen going into since Barkley. I totally agree. We're 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:23.440 going to talk about rushing in this podcast, but we're 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:28.240 talking about quarterback rushing. Yeah, as has become apparent for 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.560 those that are a little slower on the pick up here, 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:36.080 rushing quarterbacks are a freaking cheat code. When you can 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:40.800 get a quarterback who can run and pass, it unlocks 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:46.599 some crazy upside and an extremely safe floor in any 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.400 given week. Because if you've got a quarterback who can 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:51.880 run and pass, odds are one or the other is 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:54.040 going to come through for you in any given game, 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:59.280 if not both. So what I've wanted, what I wanted 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:03.960 to do today, Ryan is drilled down on the necessity 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:12.280 to draft a rushing quarterback, a mobile quarterback. Is it imperative? 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:15.080 Do you need to, as we like to say on 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:20.120 this show, reach around to take a mobile quarterback and 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:23.039 make sure you get your guy. And we've ground up 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:26.440 a bunch of data and they aren't. They are in 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.600 demand right now. We were talking ADP and we'll get 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:32.000 there again, but yeah, they want to talk to you 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:34.000 about that. I think we'll get pickamp on this. Finally, 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:37.479 very bullish on the mobile quarter quarterbacks, Yes, I bet 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:40.240 they are so. And we'll talk about this from the 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.880 standpoint of one quarterback, two quarterback in super Flex, especially 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:45.039 at the end. I want to talk to you. I 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:48.679 want to cover those different formats. Although it becomes pretty 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.799 apparent like two quarterback, everybody's running to get a quarterback. Anyway, 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:53.760 one quarterback you have a lot more options. But we'll 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:55.800 talk about that in a second. First, I want to 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:59.920 break down who is what we're going to call it, 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:04.360 a very mobile quarterback, who is an occasionally mobile quarterback, 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:08.520 and then who's an immobile quarterback. So let's start here 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:11.479 the very mobile quarterbacks. These are guys who average over 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:16.920 forty rushing yards per game. Okay, and the data set 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.400 for this has been I used the last two years 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:23.279 for all of my data, and I always love equating 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.360 forty rushing yards. When it comes from a quarterback, it's 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:27.400 an extra passing touch it is right, it's a it's 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:31.320 a free passing touchdown in every in every every game. 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:36.680 Justin Fields last year was over forty Josh Allen both 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:39.200 of the last two years, Daniel Jones last year in 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:43.560 a competent offense, and Jalen Hurts both years. Those are 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:49.320 your fields, Alan Jones hurts, those are your very mobile quarterbacks. 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.880 And I think it's safe to say Lamar Jackson would 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.880 have been on that list if healthy. Yeah, he kind 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:58.400 of up the last few years, so we should lump 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:00.800 him into that category, I would think, and Trey Lance 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:05.840 people were envisioning him. Right, we'll hold off. So I'm 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:07.440 glad you brought this up. So let me say that 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:10.880 all the data you're going to hear, I took out 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.200 anybody who didn't start at least eight games in a 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:18.000 season because Brian I just I was trying to weed 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:22.240 out backups, bad starters, because I didn't want them polluting 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:23.840 the data. I didn't want to pollute the data with 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.440 a bunch of guys who were like two start quarterbacks, 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:30.000 three start quarterbacks, four start quarterbacks. And really the only 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.440 guy who kind of got who got sort of nuked 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.480 out of all of this was Lamar Jackson. But still 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:37.400 I think that, you know, there's so many other quarterbacks 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:38.920 you were to talk about. I don't think this really 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:42.600 disrupts the data a lot. Now, you're occasionally mobile quarterbacks 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:46.400 are quarterbacks who run for on average twenty to forty 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:51.040 rushing yards per game. They are Kyler Murray Justin Fields 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:55.360 last year, Marcus Mariota this year, Daniel Jones last year, 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:58.800 and Patrick Mahomes both of the last two years, and 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:03.400 then Geno Smith last year quietly chipping in over twenty 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:07.920 rushing yards per game. And then everybody else is categorized 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:11.160 as an am mobile quarterback less than twenty rushing yards 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:15.920 per game, and we'll talk about how many points you 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:19.480 got for these guys. Want one guy and he wouldn't 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.440 meet your criteria because he didn't play enough games. But 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:26.680 going into this season, I think DeShawn Watson falls into that. Yeah, 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:29.640 I didn't realize he would have. He would have if 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.320 you extrapolated his six games from the last year whatever, 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:34.720 he would have finished with over five hundred rushing yards, 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:38.559 which would have put him six among quarterbacks and rushing 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:41.040 yards behind Daniel Jones on a per game basis. I'm 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.600 guessing this sort of thrown him into the occasional mobile, 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:48.760 but he didn't have to my eyes. Do you remember 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:54.079 great runs from Deshaun Watson this year? Now, he never 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:57.000 quite even in his career, like he doesn't have the 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.480 like you remember, Like going back to Michael Vick, like 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:01.880 that over time run against the Vikings where they like 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:06.160 oh God, and Lamar Jackson like you, Yeah, Watson, he's 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:09.320 never he's not that type of runner, but he's he's 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:11.480 so must mobile. Yeah, well for sure you can make 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:13.200 things happen if he needs to. All right, so let's 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:16.920 start here, just the core essence. How many fantasy points 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:21.680 per game? Did very mobile quarterbacks have? Occasionally mobile quarterbacks 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:25.359 and immobile quarterbacks, So let's just start right there. Immobile 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:29.320 quarterbacks averaged And obviously every scoring system is a little 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.720 bit different here, so you just use these as comparisons 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:33.720 and you can you can apply your own scoring system 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:38.200 to this. Immobile quarterbacks average fifteen fantasy points per game. 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.840 Occasionally mobile quarterbacks again, these are people in the twenty 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:46.359 to forty yard range. That number jumped up to eighteen 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:49.800 fantasy points per game with Patrick Mahomes. If you take 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:51.920 Patrick Mahomes out of that, it drops, it go only 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:58.079 goes to sixteen. The very mobile quarterbacks Brian jump up 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:01.560 to twenty one fantasy point points per game. That is 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:08.319 almost a fifty percent boost over the immobile quarterback. Regardless 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:10.839 of how many actual points your scoring system has and 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:14.600 the nuances of yours. The difference between a mobile and 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:22.679 very mobile quarterbacks is almost fifty percent. That's pretty serious change. Yeah, 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:27.960 it's to me. That's where you start really changing your priorities. 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:32.840 I'm trying to find a rushing quarterback when you're drafting, Um, 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:37.520 I want to hit you with this. Do rushing quarterbacks 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:41.000 miss more games? Do these mobile quarterbacks get hit more 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:45.640 often and miss more games? Off the top of your head, 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:48.560 most people would say yes, because they're running around in 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:52.440 the tackles. Yeah, but is that the case? Before I 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:57.280 looked at the data on the injuries and missed games 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.520 for mobile quarterbacks, I was of the belief that the 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:03.120 most dangerous place for a quarterback was in the pocket, 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:07.760 that you get the blindside hit. You know your stationary 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:10.560 and here comes some three hundred pound guy running full 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:14.960 steam into your back. That kind of stuff. Sunday did 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:18.559 grind up the data, and as a reminder, here I'm 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:21.760 comparing starting quarterbacks, but starting quarterbacks or removed the quarterbacks 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.000 we played less than eight games in a season, and 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:26.199 I did remove a couple of that that pulled out 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:29.120 a couple of legit guys. You mentioned m Lamar Jackson, 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:32.680 but also like Matthew Stafford last year, Sam Howell, Malik Wills, 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:34.600 I didn' Jeff Risk called Cooper Rush. I didn't want 0:11:34.600 --> 0:11:38.760 them concluding the data here. So here's where it comes in. 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:48.360 Immobile quarterbacks averaged fourteen starts per season. Occasionally, mobile quarterbacks 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:54.120 averaged fourteen starts per season. So now if we go 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:58.400 to that group of very mobile quarterbacks fields Alan Jones hurts, 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:06.880 they averaged more games fifteen per season over the last 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:10.880 two years, at least for the at least for the 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:14.240 this data set of the last two years, these mobile 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:16.840 quarterbacks are loop missing any more games then the mobile 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:20.400 quarterbacks and playing more games. It was either his most 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:23.679 recent ankle injury or knee injury, or he hurt his 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:26.079 ankle one of the two times, if not both of 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:29.000 the last two times. Lamar Jackson's been hurt and missed 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:33.400 significant time several weeks. He's been hurting the pocket and 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:37.319 people will musically jumped like running quarterback. He's like, yeah, well, 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:39.600 too bad. He was standing in the pocket when he 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:42.160 hurt his ankle this time. It's not always when they're 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:46.560 on the run. Great point, Josh Allen. When he got 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:51.040 hurt it was his elbow I don't remember the play. 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:54.400 Oh he was in the pocket armed top back and 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.760 he's following through and then yeah, yeah, progress got impeded 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.520 throwing the ball anybody, ye, yep, and you know, and 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:02.760 that really it took the wheels off of Josh Allen 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:05.040 for about three or four games that elbow injury. They 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:08.080 didn't run him very much and that you know, that 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:10.839 subdued his numbers a little bit last year. But still 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:15.360 Allan obviously an elite mobile quarterback. Want to I want 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:17.280 to take a quick break when we come back, Brian, 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:19.000 I want to talk about at what point in the 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:23.800 draft do you need to take a mobile quarterback? Where 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:26.160 are they going in ADP? And are you paying that ADP? 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:28.480 You paying more for that for that quarterback? Are you 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:31.920 gonna You're gonna let somebody else take that mobile quarterback? 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:42.040 Stay tuned Fantasy Football Weekly. Welcome back Fantasy Football Weekly. 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:46.480 We are talking about mobile rushing quarterbacks. Do you need 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:50.200 to prioritize getting a rushing quarterback? Michael Vick really changed 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:55.000 the landscape modern day with some gigantic games that started 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.840 to give people a hint of what a dual threat 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:02.160 quarterback could be. But that was like twenty twelve years ago, 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.480 twenty years ago when he was drafted. Yeah, back, you 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:06.520 have to go all the way back to when he 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:10.680 was drafted, for sure, and Dante Culpepper that little bit. Yeah, 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:13.200 No one ran like vic Lamar Jackson is the only 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:16.360 comparable guy in the last twenty thirty years. Ailin Hurts 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:22.760 and Jon Fields are into that. I'd take that back. Yeah, um, 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:27.760 but I think we were all very slow to realize 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:33.120 that those guys were breaking scoring systems wide open, and 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:35.840 you know it, and it's only becoming more obvious now. 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:37.880 I'm gonna look this up now. I think he topped 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:41.400 twenty passing touchdowns one time in his career. Yeah, that 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:43.640 was I think was that Eagles season two, And it 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:45.440 was like later on in his career. You may be 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:49.560 right about that. And I remember mostly getting this wrong 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:51.880 because he had spent like three years in jail, and 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.960 his first year back, I'm like, can you really spend 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:56.640 three years in jail and just walk down too a 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:59.360 football field and be great? I turned out he was 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:03.520 pretty good, and uh so he was drafted to No. One. Um, yeah, 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:07.320 twenty two years ago. But yeah, twenty touchdowns and oh 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:09.960 six was his career high and then he went to 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.160 prison and then oh nine he came back and in 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:15.680 uh twenty ten is when he had twenty one passing touchdowns. 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:18.800 So he said twenty or more passing touchdowns twice. Yeah, 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:20.800 in his career passing to me, I like five in 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.720 one game that Eagle that Monday night. Yeah, that was 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:26.600 like was it against Washington? Yeah, I was in Washington. 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:28.360 I remember I lived out there at the time. I 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:29.840 almost went to that game, but I was like, I 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:31.360 hate both of these teams, but I wish I had 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:32.920 seen that in person. That had been cool. But anyway, 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.880 now that box score remains one of the highest scoring 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:39.720 single performances in fantasy football history. And he did a 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:41.600 lot of it in the first half too. I remember 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:43.880 I think like fourth maybe in the first quarter, he 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:46.680 had like two bombs into de Shawn Jackson, then like 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:48.800 a rushing touchdown, and like the first quarter, you know, 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.440 like wouldn't surprise me. That was I want to say. 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:56.600 He had over one hundred rushing yards, two rushing touchdowns, 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:59.760 and like three passing touchdowns in that game. Hold on, 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:01.200 I think I can pull if you can find that, 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:02.760 that'd be fun to take. That'd be fun to hear 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.480 about that game again for the young guns out there, 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.640 they don't remember that. We'll remember that game from what year? 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:10.920 Do we think that? It was twenty ten? Sadly, but 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:14.920 that was a long time ago, twenty ten. I remember 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.720 commiserating with Matthew Barry during that game because he's a 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:22.040 big Washington fan. Yeah. And Monday Night Football November fifteenth, 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:29.880 the Eagles beat Washington fifty nine twenty eight. Let's see 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:35.160 Michael vic head three thirty three and four passing and 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:41.200 then eighty yards rushing in two rushing touchdowns and touchdown performance. 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:44.440 They took their foot off the gas mid third quarter 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:46.880 in that game too. Well, I'm sure they put a 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:48.640 fifty nine point so they must have at some point. 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:52.400 Who was the backup quarterback that came in after Michael Ing, Oh, 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.480 good old Kevin Cobb. Kevin, you know what, he only 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:59.120 took it. H He didn't have a pass attempt Vic 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:03.400 most of the game, okay, cobbed one rush attempt negative, 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:05.720 so he kneeled the ball field. That would say okay 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:09.520 with the days anyway, So we've established that these very 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:14.280 mobile quarterbacks are worth almost a fifty percent boost and 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:19.480 fantasy points over the immobile quarterback. So let's talk ADP. 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.560 What kind of ADP are we looking at for guys 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:25.560 like Fields and Josh Allen and Daniel Jones and Jalen Hurts. 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:29.920 Well in super flex and two quarterback, nothing really changes 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:32.840 quarterbacks going high demand. You'll see the top ten go 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:36.080 in the first two rounds. Really, and if there's any 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:38.480 there's barely any room for them to move up in 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:41.439 two quarterback formats, right if any little wiggle room there 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:44.480 is is gone. But you're gonna see in any order, 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:48.080 it's gonna be Fields, sorry, not Fields, but Hurts, Alan 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:52.080 Mahomes go in that order, and then even Burrow he's 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.440 not as he's not falling into this category. But yeah, 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:58.360 quarterbacks premium in super flex two quarterback, no shocker there. 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:01.439 But in one quarterback I've seen a huge shift from 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:06.520 last year where Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, and Patrick Mahomes 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:09.119 somewhat mobile. He's really mobile in the sense that he 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:12.600 gives you those e white mobile numbers. Yeah, yeah, he 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:14.520 really scrambles what he needs to, but he can throw 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:16.879 an eighty yard bomb behind his back that counts as 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:18.800 like an eighty yard rushing touch. Now, to right. But 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:22.960 those guys are going early first. They're not going anywhere 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:28.000 past the mid second, which is easily a round and 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:30.680 a half earlier than last year. Justin fields right now, 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:34.080 his current best ball ADP an underdog is thirty six, 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:37.120 which is the end of round three. That's where you seek. 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:40.240 That's where you'd see quarterback one going last year. If 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:43.080 that early, really they're really going like mid third, early fourth, 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:44.960 you would see people going it was really more like 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:48.320 Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen last year. But in 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:51.359 best ball, isn't it even more important to get the 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:56.320 crazy upside that these rushing quarterbacks can give you the standard? 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:59.560 So I'm surprised that I'm surprised they're even going that long. 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:01.720 To me to buy on justin fields end of the 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:04.879 third round, Oh yeah, definitely, and uh yeah fields, and 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:08.920 then Lamar Jackson is going after fields. I mean Lamar Jackson, 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:12.920 he has a repeat of his twenty nineteen season. Well, 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:14.640 how many? How many years are we going to say that? Though? 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:16.080 I know, I mean now we've been saying that for 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:17.760 three years waiting for him to happen. I'll get a 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:20.680 little bit more excited about l Jackson if they say 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:23.880 they land DeAndre Hopkins somehow, or they it'd be better 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:26.600 if he goes somewhere else, potentially Lamar Jackson. Yeah, it 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:29.240 actually sounds like he probably will. I don't know what 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:33.280 he's not in the Giants conversation, or you got to 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:36.320 afford him, and you've got to decide the Ravens, who 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:40.000 know everything there is to know about Lamar Jackson, if 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:45.439 they decide to pass on paying him, what does that 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:48.359 say to the rest of the league. Does the rest 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:51.119 of the league go, well, you know, if they're not 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:53.320 going to pay him, why are we going to step up? 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:55.840 Or is it just there's so many teams that are 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:58.719 desperate at quarterback that somebody will for sure what it is. 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.919 Kyler is Kyler Marie and DeShawn Watson deals have just 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:06.920 blown up quarterback market. That makes Daniel Jones almost borderline 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.840 worth forty five million dollars. It's not happy, it's a 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:12.240 little too much, but sadly he's like a thirty five 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:16.359 million dollars guy. Based on what Daniel Watson and Daniel 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:22.280 Jones touchdowns passing touchdowns the last three years fifteen, ten 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:27.320 and eleven. He's like and he's forty million dollars quarterback. 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:30.720 He's like Michael Vicks. Well he's not even not even 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:34.440 not it's yet's absurd, but that it might be that way, Well, 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:36.880 we'll see what it really has happened. When Jalen Hurts, 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:38.640 I think he's in the last year of his contract. 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:41.000 This year's who had the money he's gonna get he commands, 0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:42.920 It's gonna get a lot. But the long story short 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:46.440 in one quarterback leagues, I want to say, the jig 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:48.199 is up, the cat is out of the bag, whatever. 0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:51.399 The price is way up on the Jalen Hurts and 0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:53.360 the Josh Allens of the world, just because they are. 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:56.080 Those two guys put up and justin fields even they 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:59.200 put up top twelve running back numbers and that doesn't 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:02.679 even factor in their passing. So yeah, all right there, 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:04.560 and there's still room for these guys to go up. 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:07.239 Like you said, you're kind of shocked that Hurts and 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:10.960 Alan were going. I could I wouldn't be shocked. We 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:13.040 get deeper into the summer spring summer, we see them 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:16.080 going in the mid first and maybe even first overall. 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:18.040 So all right, we'll let's all right, well, let we 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:21.440 discussed in detail. Justin Fields, talk to me about Josh Allen. 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:23.439 Let's go to him next. Where is Josh Allen going 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:27.480 right now? Right now? He's quarterback one ADP of sixteen 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:32.119 point six, so he is, you know, first the third 0:21:32.160 --> 0:21:34.160 of the second round. He's an early second round pick 0:21:34.280 --> 0:21:36.840 right now, early second round pick. And Mahomes and Hurts 0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:38.800 are right behind him. It's like whoever you prefer there 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:43.479 and and we can talk best ball centric. It kind 0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:46.520 of almost depends if you compare a Digs or a 0:21:46.640 --> 0:21:49.080 Kelsey or a AJ Brown who you take in the 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:53.640 first round in whatever course. But those three guys, they're 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:57.119 going ahead of RB five six right now. Yeah, And 0:21:57.240 --> 0:21:59.080 that was never the case. It used to be, no, 0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:01.720 not in one quarterback. I think finally people have gotten 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:03.760 around to being a lot more open to not spending 0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:06.440 those early picks on running backs, which is taken twenty years. 0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:09.680 But it's great to see. I think it's great to 0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:11.200 see those guys going where they are, and I think 0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:13.240 you can make case for them to all go higher 0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:17.160