1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by Pacific Office Automation, proud partner 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals and your one stop shop for 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: optimizing all your office technology. Visit Pacific Office dot Com. 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: Problem solved. J J. Watt in the backfield J J. 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: Watt Baby counter till ten till the five and end 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: of the ends up for the touchdown. Welcome to Cardinals 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: Underground presented by that Pacific Office Automation. Visit Pacificoffice dot Com. 8 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: Problem solved, But Don Tyler Murray that defender is in 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: multiple pieces. All that was nasty right there? Rights the 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: latest news and notes from the guys who covered the teams. 11 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: Drilled by Simmons. Isaiah Simmons is bawling, Bring it on, 12 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: Bring it on. Slammed the ground by Budha Baker like 13 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield. I scared 14 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: and nobody here's Paul Calvc. Is it just me? Or 15 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: have the two of you found at times that this 16 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: isn't necessarily a cards camp as it is bizarre world 17 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. Let me explain Darren Urban, 18 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: who was already scoffed seven seconds into Cardinals Underground. You 19 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: started it actually, Darren, you're part of it, and I'll 20 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: explain in a moment. Danny Serrek most definitely is a 21 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: part of this bizarre world in a small way. Yours 22 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: truly POLY podcast over here POLY preseason. I think it 23 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: all started with the Guardian Caps, right, The Guardian Caps 24 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: just sort of a strange site. Right, You're like, okay, 25 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: now we're used to it. A couple of weeks in. 26 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: I get it. But there have been other moments, you know, 27 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: speaking of like wearing stuff on your head. You look 28 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: over in Kyler Murray is calling place, He's got the 29 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: headset on. It's just it's just different, you know. All 30 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: of a sudden you look over in three hundred forty 31 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: pound Will Hernandez is kicking a fuel goal some fifty 32 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: yards worth. I mean it looks really good kicking a 33 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: fuel goal. Like, where does that come from? Right? Sure? 34 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: Nick Vigil in a press conference, and as you can tell, 35 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: this is in no particular order. Just uh you know, 36 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: Nick Vigil, can you name some of your mentors in 37 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: the first name out of his mouth? Vontz perfect. I 38 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: don't think anybody saw that name coming. That's a fair one, Uh, 39 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: Darren Urban on a Saturday morning posting video as an 40 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: influencer in basketball. Apparently he's up there shooting. First of all, 41 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: that was Sunday morning. Sunday morning, okay, but you know 42 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: it's even more of a flex because it's Sunday morning. 43 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: You got up early to go work out. So that's good. 44 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: Danny's serect with a buckett on indoors. You know, I 45 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: just I you know, I'm not sure what the calls. Yeah, 46 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 1: I could keep going. Obviously, I've I've talked entirely too much. 47 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: So who would like to pick up from there? I 48 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: think it's I'm just gonna say the bucket hat is 49 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: a style. Obviously, there's no sun shining through State Firm stadium. 50 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: We're here at practices. But you guys have the luxury 51 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: where you can wake up in your hair just looks amazing. 52 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: And that is not always the case with my Yes, 53 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: even even our producer Jim and Majandro his freshly shiny heads. 54 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: You wake up and your hair looks amazing. That's not 55 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: always the case for me. And so on days when 56 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: I know that I am not going to be on 57 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: camera and maybe I haven't washed my hair recently, I 58 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: will throw on a bucket hat, and I didn't realize 59 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: that was such a crime. It's a cardinal's bucket hat too. 60 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 1: The whole part about that not being on camera is 61 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: that why you took offense to Craig Greel who telling 62 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: you that you needed a joke. Yes, because he thinks 63 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: it's a funny joke. It's not that funny, because you 64 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: know what, there have been instances where I've learned my 65 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: lesson or I wasn't supposed to be on camera and 66 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: I was. Didn't that happen right before camp with us 67 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: for something? No, it was early in the offseason, and 68 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: then it's you know, it's rushing to make sure my 69 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: hair looks okay and add a bunch of makeup. I 70 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: didn't show up to work in So now I always 71 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: come prepared. But I have been getting a lot of 72 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: flack for the bucket hat. And I don't know if 73 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: jj Walkeet's as much flack when he wears his on 74 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: his vet days. Cliff Kingsbury noticed you didn't have a 75 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: bucket hat on he did today. He asked me why 76 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: I was not wearing the bucket hat, because apparently it 77 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: has become my nut luck. Well, it takes one to No. One. 78 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: Cliff is known for wearing the bucket hat during the spring, 79 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: at least his early days as Cardinals coach, and now 80 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: he's got Yeah. But again, when it's one hundred and 81 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: five degrees and the sun's beating down, makes more sense. 82 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if as a fashion the bucket hat 83 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: is a camp vibe, though it's good. I'm actually taking notes. 84 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm learning on the fly, right, Google that on you too. Yeah, No, 85 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: I need to know. I actually I should, really I 86 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: should go that route. You know, for a guy who 87 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: every day is a bad hair day, I really should 88 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: go the bucket route hat. Anyway, I don't think that's true. 89 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: She just got through saying our hair always looks good 90 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: and I'm going to cut that and use it. Well, 91 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: that's good. I only tell the truth. Once again. We 92 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: don't have a lie detector here, so she got away 93 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: with that. And then there's the depth chart, maybe the 94 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: most bizarre moment of the entire camp. It's a good 95 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: one where apparently down is up or up is down 96 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: or all I know is Kyler Murray is the fourth 97 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: string quarterback. Somebody please explain Darren uh No, the Cardinals, 98 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: you know, every team is required to put out a 99 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: depth chart before every game, including preseason games. UH, normally 100 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: this time of year, it's it's a it's a depth 101 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: chart that, uh, it goes about how you would expect 102 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: you you'd have all the starters that you would normally see. Uh, 103 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: everybody and their brother tells you how. It's unofficial across 104 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: every thirty two teams. Unofficial, unofficial, unofficial, which always cracks 105 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: me up because it's literally being put out by the team. 106 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: That's about as official as it gets. But anyways, that's 107 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: a that's a pet peeve in mind should go off. 108 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: But normally it's it's it's about how you would go 109 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: So everybody's kind of looking, okay, where does it or 110 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: whose second string, third string? You know what rookies might 111 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: be making a push. And the Cardinals put out their 112 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: first depth chart and it's said very specifically based on 113 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: who is expected to be playing in Cincinnati in the 114 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: preseason opener, which Kyler Murray was never expected to play 115 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: in preseason opener. Most of the starters weren't expected to 116 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: play in the preseason openers. So you've got Kyler Murray 117 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: buried as a four string quarterback. You're probably the first 118 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: time in his life. Yes, James Connors listed as the 119 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: seventh running back. Things like that. That's a good one. 120 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: It was interesting to check out, and in some ways, Paul, 121 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: it does give us a better idea and you can't 122 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: check it out on easy Cardinals dot com and wrote 123 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: a blog post about it. It does give you a 124 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: better idea who's going to be playing against the Bengals. 125 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: But it's very strange to see, YEA for those of 126 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: us who have to put together a spotting board, I 127 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: guess it's a big assist, right, So now we know 128 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: who's viable, who's likely to play, who isn't, and so 129 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: we have to waste our time with ninety plus players 130 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: on each side of the spotting board as you're trying 131 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: to get ready for the preseason opener in the Natty 132 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,679 Speaker 1: on Friday night. I think there are other quarterback questions, 133 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: are there? Not Danny, not just Kyler Murray being four string, 134 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: but Kyler Murray's status and participation in other ways NOWT 135 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: McCoy or the lack thereof. All I know is we're 136 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: going to see a lot of Trace McSorley and Jared 137 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: Garantano on Friday Night. But I asked for the number 138 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: one and number two quarterbacks on this roster? What is 139 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 1: the status Dandy? And then I'm gonna morph that into 140 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: a big picture question here momentarily. Well, a few weeks ago, 141 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: we had learned that Kyler Murray was dealing with a 142 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: little bit of discomfort in his wrist, and then he 143 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: had COVID and was missing. But on Tuesday, head coach 144 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury said that the wrist is not really an 145 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: issue for Kyler Murray at this point. However, tuesday's practice, 146 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: Colt McCoy wasn't really out there, and we learned that 147 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: he's been dealing with some soreness in his arm, and 148 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: it could just be a coincience, but looked like the 149 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: one that Kingsbury went to grab would be the right one, 150 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: which would be McCoy's throwing arms. So that could be 151 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: a coincidence or that could more than likely be the 152 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: army's talking about so throwing arm, But it doesn't seem 153 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: like a concern. It's just being careful at this point. 154 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: There's there's really no need to play either of them 155 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: in your preseason game. You know what you have from 156 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: them individually, you know what you have from them with 157 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: this team, with the starters, with the ones, with the twos, 158 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: you know all that there is no point in putting 159 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,239 Speaker 1: them out there. Kingsbury did say like at most Kyler 160 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: Murray might might get a few snaps, and for me, 161 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: that probably means the national game against the Ravens right 162 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: in the preseason. So there's no need to see McCoy 163 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: or Murray in this first preseason game in Cincinnati. And 164 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: Trace McSorley has been getting a lot of a lot 165 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: of practice time. With Murray out with COVID last week 166 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: and resting his arm and now McCoy resting his arm 167 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. I'll say that the only thing 168 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: that makes me hesitate at this point is because Cliff 169 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: basically tells you everything is not that big of a 170 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: deal until it is. And so while I tend to 171 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: believe that by the time we get to week one 172 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: in the Chiefs that McCoy will be fine as the 173 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: backup quarterback and Kyler Murray will be fine as a starter, 174 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: until you see him back them back out there and throwing, 175 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: you know, you kind of wonder a little bit because 176 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: with all due respect to Cliff, he's he's going to 177 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: play it pretty close to the vest. And if you know, 178 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: and guess what, you're not required this time a year 179 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: no to provide any sort of injury update, correct or not. 180 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: But this is still the point of training camp where 181 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: now that these players, I mean they've all been working 182 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: out in the off season, but this is still different. 183 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: This is the point where those little tweaks happen a 184 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: lot of times of the soreness and adjusting and all 185 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: of that. But I will say that he's the here's 186 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: the issue. When it comes up the first time, we 187 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: just here, well, we're just giving him like a rest day, 188 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: were And technically that's true, But now it comes out, okay, 189 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: now he's got a sore arm. There's levels of nuance 190 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: here that I think Cliff is using very carefully. And 191 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: sometimes that might just mean he's being careful Cliff. Sometimes 192 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: you wonder what are they trying to kind of keep 193 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: behind the curtain. So if McCoy's arm is a little 194 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: more serious or maybe not serious but longer lasting than 195 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: they might think at the moment with about a month 196 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: till the home opener, well that affect like, do you 197 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: think there would have been a chance that they don't 198 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: carry four quarterbacks and maybe now they will or do 199 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: you think they would have carried four quarterbacks regardless you 200 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: mean in the regular season, they won't. I don't think 201 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: they'll be four quarterbacks. I'll say this. Cole McCoy's at 202 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: least been out at practice, and I think if you 203 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: have any kind of serious injury, you're not run around 204 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: with your helmet on. I do think it's probably not 205 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: that big of a deal. Kyler Murray was throwing a 206 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: little bit more. Is he throwing a lot? No, but 207 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: he looked pretty fine when he was throwing, when they 208 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: were letting him throw. And I do think a lot 209 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: of this has to do with, Okay, we're just going 210 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: to be smart, like you were saying, Danny, we got 211 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: so much time between now and the regular season, and 212 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 1: these guys are going to play in the preseason games now. 213 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: It's just basically like getting through time. But you know, 214 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: with everything that's happened with this team, I mean, Paul 215 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: just went through the craziness of what's all been going 216 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: on and we didn't. We're not even touching on the 217 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: old craziness stuff. And it's just like, I feel like 218 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: this can't more than any other you're waiting for a 219 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: shoe to drop. Maybe then if this had happened like 220 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: last year, you know what I'm saying, Hey, there's no 221 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: doubt if this was a different media market, in East 222 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: Coast media market in New York Philly and there were 223 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: these sort of quarterback questions, I mean, the head coach 224 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: will be getting peppered repeatedly, it'd be a much bigger 225 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: storyline than it is Dallas. You're absolutely so, even Sean McVay. 226 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: Look at how that Matthew Stafford's story has taken on 227 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: a life of its own. So we'll see where this tracks. 228 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: I will say this, there is a quarterback competition. It's 229 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: for that third spot. And Cliff Kingsbury has carried three quarterbacks, 230 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: Chris Streveler a year ago and total he didn't at 231 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: the very end, but then they went and signed Trace McSorley. 232 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: So there's definitely I think a spot on the fifty 233 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: three available that third quarterback lease based on precedent, So 234 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: we'll see. Now it's interesting because Trace McSorley has definitely 235 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: had his moments. I didn't think the red and White 236 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: practice was one of them. He threw the pick six 237 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: to Byron Murphy. Now coach Kingsbury is pretty effusive in 238 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: his praise of what Tracey McSorley did in the Red 239 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: and White. I thought Jared Guarantano actually shine more in 240 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: the Red and White, especially that one play where Vance 241 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: Jose have brought the house like seven guys after the 242 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: quarterback and Guarantano sprinting for the sideline. Just when you 243 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: thought he was going to step out, he actually threw 244 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: a rope down the sideline in a completion for a 245 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: chunk throat of Greg Dortsch. I thought that was really 246 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: well done. So we'll see you. Both guys have had 247 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: their moments. Both guys have had their ups and downs 248 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to accuracy and decision making. Sometimes they 249 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: seem to hold on the ball a little too long, 250 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: but instead of really getting the ball to that first 251 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: or second read. We'll see what happens in Cincinnati. There's 252 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: going to be a ton of snaps for both guys 253 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: to prove their worth and how viable they might be 254 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: when it comes down to the final cutdown. Here's the thing, though, 255 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: when it comes to quarterback questions, wouldn't we all agree 256 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: that quarterback wide receiver chemistry a year ago was an 257 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: issue at times? Well, bet well, bet even Aj Green 258 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: said it. Now, it might have been particular to a 259 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: couple of receivers versus, you know, as opposed to the 260 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: entire room. But you're missing a lot of valuable reps 261 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: with your franchise quarterback and you're starting wide receivers, and 262 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 1: so at what point does that become the concern as 263 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: opposed to the health of the quarterbacks? Are you saying 264 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: because Carl Murray hasn't been throwing a lot as I've 265 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 1: been throwing with his receivers, they haven't been getting that timing, 266 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: that chemistry stuff that you can execute in camp that 267 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: does translate to a regular season game. I know a 268 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: lot of what they're doing right now has no application 269 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: to the regular season. I get it. But to me, 270 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and receivers getting familiar with each other, being in 271 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: the right spot at the right time, getting the exact 272 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: timing and a scene and you know those completions that 273 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: in a regular season you make buy a few inches. 274 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: That's the sort of stuff that's honed in August. And 275 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: the Cardinals are missing a lot of those valuable reps 276 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: right but they're missing it because Kyler Murray had COVID 277 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: and because he's had the wrist and the soreness that 278 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: they've been being careful with. I mean, besides the eleven 279 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: on eleven portions of practice, I'm not sure that there's 280 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: truly any difference of going through these drills that it 281 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: would the chemistry would make anything different. And again, these 282 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: guys have been these ride receivers have been working out 283 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: we've heard from in Dallas with Kyler Murray in the 284 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: off season. And the difference of last year is when 285 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: you had aj Green playing with Kyler Murray for the 286 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: first time, you had Rondale Moore playing with Kyler Murray 287 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: for the first time. These players now, not only those two, 288 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: but DeAndre Hopkins, Marcus Brown, who has experienced playing with 289 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: Kyler and college's best friend. Like, even though they might 290 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: not be throwing Kyler Murray might not be throwing to 291 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: these receivers every day, there is still more chemistry than 292 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: what they were all playing with at this time last year, 293 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: I would tend to agree. I will say I'm getting 294 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: to the point where, Okay, we're going to be through uh, 295 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: I mean, we're we're through half of camp. In terms 296 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: of what the team is going to do out at 297 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: State Farm Stadium. Um, Kyler Murray is not throwing one 298 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: pass to Hollywood Brown. I don't think, um that. I 299 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: don't care how much experience they had in a one 300 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: year in college. When you're in a new offense, it 301 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: would be nice to to see your new receiver with 302 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: your quarterback a couple of times. But again, he had 303 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: a hamstring. This isn't like a situation. I'm not blaming it. 304 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but things couldn't be different, like obviously, 305 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: of course you would want that, but it's it's not 306 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: like anything could have been different that it's all been 307 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: out of their hands. Yes, I guess that's true, And 308 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: that doesn't make it any less of a problem. If 309 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: it's a problem, I guess I would say that, right. 310 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: It's just it's not it's not a bunch of ve 311 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: days of no you know. But but all that means 312 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: is that, okay, instead of saying, you know, Cliff, what 313 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: are you doing, you're just saying that's horrible. Luck doesn't 314 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: change the fact that it could be an issue, you know, 315 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: and it may not be I don't know, um, and 316 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: and maybe they come back together. But you know, again, 317 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: you mentioned the eleven and eleven. I mean, that's that's 318 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: a thing where it's like, I mean, I don't have 319 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: any doubt that you're going to be able to throw 320 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: on air to Hollywood Brown and complete a lot of passes. 321 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: But when there's a pass rush and I mean to 322 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: me that kind of stuff, I think that does matter. 323 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: And even though he has experience in Oklahoma, we all 324 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: agree that Oklahoma was uber talented compared to most teams 325 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: they played against, and that that how all that worked 326 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: is not going to work the same in the NFL. 327 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: I mean, how in this camp if we've seen eleven 328 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: on eleven and you pretty much have this starting Arizona defense, 329 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: you have all the big names, the prominent starters on 330 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: that side of the ball, and then you look on 331 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, and the receivers breaking 332 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: the huddle are Greg dortch, Andre Bachelli, Andy Isabella, Which 333 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: are those three? Are probably your starters on yeah something, 334 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: Marcel Eightman. The some of these names that you're seeing 335 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: getting most of the reps, the bulk of the reps 336 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: and offense are not names you're gonna see in the 337 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: regular season. We don't envision. So I'm just curious. Now, 338 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: on the other hand, we're still four weeks away from 339 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: the season opener, so is there time. There absolutely is 340 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: enough time, And once you get into the back end 341 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: of camp and these practices are closed, we're all curious 342 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: to see what it might look like. And now they 343 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: might ramp things up just a little bit, not that 344 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: we can say anything about it, right, just so we'll 345 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,959 Speaker 1: see what that means. And maybe some of this is 346 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: by design. There's been plenty of teams who have been 347 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: gauging their veterans accordingly and sort of easing them along, 348 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: and that's the way this is going to continue to go. 349 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: I firmly believe in the NFL, after you went twenty 350 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: twenty and you basically didn't have a preseason, everyone looked around, 351 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: especially the players of veteran players, said why do we 352 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: need this? And so you're just going to see a 353 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: trend in that direction. So, but there's still a lot 354 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: of questions answer, right, I mean, in terms of the 355 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: known versus the unknown, what do we know so far? 356 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: For sure, we know the starting offensive line. We know 357 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: that with the injury to Justin Murray, it's gonna be 358 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: Will Hernandez, so left or right dj Mprey's Justin Pugh, 359 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson at center, even though we haven't seen much, 360 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: if any of them at cards camp so far. And 361 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: then Will Hernandez and Kelvin Beacham on the right side 362 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: by the way. Those two were working on some of 363 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: the tannem blocks and it was good to see those 364 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: guys execute some stuff earlier today and give each other 365 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: a fist bump. So you got those two guys working 366 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: on their chemistry. Will Hernandez Kelvin Beacham. What Beacham say said, 367 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: He's like a refrigerator. That's how he described Will Hernandez 368 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: to the Meets, A pretty line. It was actually I 369 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: think it was your question. He said, a Brahm Bowlham, 370 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: you're from Texas, Brahma bowl okay, Which if you go 371 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: to Calvin Beecham's Twitter, you can see the video of 372 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: the bully that his family has that his mother named 373 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: Valentine that he was comparing to Will Hernandez in a 374 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: good way, but it looked like a pretty mighty voe here. 375 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: Will Hernandez, are you like, Hey, I'd rather be a 376 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: Brahma bull or a refrigerator or just a good I 377 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: would say maybe during the game the bowl, and then 378 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: when things get chippy the way they have in some 379 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: of these practices. A refrigerator, Yeah, it looks like a 380 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: refrigerator tried to hit them. The refrigerator might have more 381 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: endorsement potential. You know, you could work with an appliance maker, 382 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: you know, that might that might work better long term 383 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: in terms of the business aspects of it. But in 384 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: terms of the old line that's known otherwise, the back 385 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: end of the receiver room still undefined, the back end 386 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: of the running back room undefined. Here's a hot take 387 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: for is Jonathan Ward in trouble James Connor a lock? 388 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: Darryl Williams, I think is a lock doesn't have to 389 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: do much. He's going to be a lock just based 390 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: on his track record in the NFL. You know, Benjamin, 391 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: it just doesn't stop. He continues to get props and 392 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: praise from the head coach. He is most definitely out 393 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: of Cliff Kingsbury's doghouse. So you're officially dumping your conspiracy 394 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: theory of a few weeks ago. Keante ingram As, Ye 395 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: did not forget Paul. These things evolved, They happen in 396 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: real time. You have to adjust accordingly, sometimes you have 397 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: to call an audible So as a Jonathan Ward in 398 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: Jeopardy right now, as a guy who you figure is 399 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: going to be on the outside looking in when it 400 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: comes to running back reps. I know he's a standout 401 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: with special teams, but if I'm number twenty nine Jonathan Ward, 402 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm coming ready to ball in these preseason games. This 403 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: one's hard because I don't think that the rookie Kyanta 404 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: Ingram is set to be a practice squad player. He 405 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: has received a lot of praise and he has looked 406 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: good out at practices, And that's a really good point 407 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: and probably going to be one of those harder decisions. 408 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: A sneaky position that we've talked about having a full room, 409 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: but we haven't really talked about that as the position group. 410 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: That might be one of the harder cuts because you 411 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: bring up a good point. They really like Jonathan Ward 412 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: on special teams, but it doesn't make sense to carry 413 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: five running backs. No, not unless Ward is one of 414 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: Jeff Rogers like, Hey, this is my one non negotiable 415 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: I gotta have this guy, and I don't know if 416 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: he is. And the question then becomes, if he's not, 417 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: what does Quante Ingram. Give Jeff Rogers see, we all 418 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: watch Kante Ingram on offense, and yeah, he's looked pretty good. 419 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: I can't say that I've paid super close attention of 420 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: what he's done on special teams. And if he's just 421 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: a bust over there, that's going to be a problem 422 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: because he's probably the fourth running back if he makes 423 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: a team. You know, look this team. I will say this. 424 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: You said you don't see him as a practice squad guy. 425 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd want to put him out 426 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: there either, But this team did carry a running back 427 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: just a couple of years ago and had him inactive 428 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: every week just to make sure that they kept him 429 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: on the roster and didn't lose him trying to put 430 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: him on the practice squad. And that was Eno Benjamin 431 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: all year long he as a rookie. He was inactive 432 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: each game, but they were afraid if they tried to 433 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: cut him and put him on the practice squad, somebody 434 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: would scoop him up. And I could see the same 435 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: thing with Ingram. I also, from what we've heard from coaches, 436 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: it sounds like Kanta Ingram plays more of that style, 437 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: similarly to James Connor so if they liked the way 438 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: he's trending, you would want him on the roster. If 439 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: James needs more breaks, and you know it's not a 440 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: Darrel Williams situation, edo Eno Benjamin situation. You need that trucker, 441 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: then that sounds like it would be Kiante Ingram. Well, 442 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: I see, to me, it's funny because when I look 443 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: at those running backs, only Eno kind of to me 444 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: fits what Chase Edmonds gave you last year. The other 445 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: three guys, to me, are the same kind of player. 446 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: I know darry Williams has got a little bit, He's 447 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: a little bit, probably more shifty. But when you look 448 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: at Darryl Williams, I don't think Chase Edmonds. I think 449 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: James Connor. This is a thick man, lots of lots 450 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: of c's no case a thick man. I was going 451 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: to go there, and then I thought, I'll let Danny 452 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: make that call. What I'm here for. What's interesting about 453 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: Kanta Ingram They listed him at six foot two twenty one. 454 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: I know when we interviewed him after rookie Minicamp at 455 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: the end of June, he said he's about two eighteen. 456 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,479 Speaker 1: But he also said when he was at Texas he 457 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: was two forty plus at one point because they wanted 458 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: him to be a fullback in that system. He was 459 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: used much differently at SC than he was at Texas, 460 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: and I don't think he was really fond of the 461 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: way he was used at Texas as more of a 462 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: fullback and they wanted him to bulk up. So I 463 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: wonder why he transferred. So so you know there's that 464 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: um I tell you a known and unknown position group's corner. Wow. 465 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: I mean even earlier today Cliff Kingsbury and self said 466 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: to be determined quote end quote, and I think everything 467 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: is to be determined. Is Byron Murphy your number one corner? Sure? 468 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: But is he a number one outside corner or is 469 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: he your number one slot corner? Who exactly are the 470 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: other corners? Marco Wilson was on ninety eight seven FM 471 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: with Wolf and Luke and he gave an unprompted shout 472 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: out to Antonio Hamilton just yesterday saying, if there's one 473 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: guy on camp who's really playing well, it's Antonio Hamilton. 474 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: I wonder if that's going to cost Marco Wilson. I 475 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I will say when, But Marco 476 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: and Antonio Hamilton just finished that quick thought they could 477 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: be your outside corners and Byron Murphy could be in 478 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: the slot because everybody now they want Byron Murphy to 479 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: be the inside corps. Well, I mean, I think at 480 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: this point those it's it's relatively unquestioned my head though, 481 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: those are your top three corners. However they deploy them. 482 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: What'll be interesting is the times when they only want 483 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: to go with two corners. You know, do you is 484 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: Antonio Hamilton out there instead of Marco Wilson, which, by 485 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: the way, appropoll have absolutely nothing. The first Patriots stepped 486 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: art came out and Malcolm Butler is listed second string, 487 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: so I wasn't sure if he was going to go 488 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: retire now. But anyways, um, so I would say that 489 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: is that second string is second to the bottom or 490 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: second from the top, that's a great that's a great question. 491 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm guessing it's second from the top. But still I 492 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: wasn't sure how that was gonna how that was gonna 493 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: sit with Malcolm. Um. I think they we We've talked 494 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: about this a million times, guys, but I don't see 495 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: how that they get through let's say September without adding 496 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: a veteran. I'm gonna say this, you want to be careful. 497 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: I think I've said this before. You want to be 498 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: smart about signing somebody right now. There's a lot of 499 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,719 Speaker 1: options a team can have in terms of signing a veteran, 500 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: And if you wait until after that first uh, that 501 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: first week of the regular season, you can sign a 502 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: guy and his his contract isn't guaranteed, which gives you 503 00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of leeway. If you decide to sign 504 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: a veteran who may or may not have a lot 505 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: left in the tank, you can take that risk and 506 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: sign them to a big contract, and if it turns 507 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: out they do have something left in the tank, then 508 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: you've got potentially a starter. But if you don't, you're 509 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: not hooked up without money. I mean that that has 510 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: happened to this team before. I mean, if you remember, 511 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: obviously it was before Danny's time, but the great Michael 512 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: Crabtree experiment of twenty nineteen where they signed him with 513 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: a week or so left in training camp, signed them 514 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: to a relatively big deal considering and flamed out super 515 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: quick and got cut before September was over, And then 516 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: they were on the hook for all that money when 517 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: you look at you've got the roster in front of you, Paul, 518 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: I mean looking at Cincinnati coming up and the rest 519 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: of the preseason numbers wise, is there any do any 520 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: of those three? I mean, there's no way those three 521 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: have to play. By Ra Murphy and Tonio Hamilton and 522 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: Marco Wilson, do they have the numbers for I would say, 523 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: first of all, I'm guessing Marco. Marco Wilson on the 524 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,719 Speaker 1: crazy depth chart is listed as a starter for the Bengals, 525 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: so is absolutely gonna play. He's going You got to 526 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: put some guys out there that, you know, the Zaven 527 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: Collins of the world or the Marco Wilson's, the ones 528 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: who need the reps um. But I yeah, I think 529 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: they've got they've got enough bodies. I mean, if you've 530 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: got to put if if you put Josh Jackson or 531 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: Jace Whittaker and they got to play three fourths of 532 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: the game on defense, it is what it is. Christian 533 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: Matthew the rookie, you know he'll get a lot of reps. 534 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 1: The question to me is how much of this is 535 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: Marco Wilson re earning his starting spot and how much 536 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: of this is what we would be told of slowly 537 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: amping him back into things with the groin injury Wheeler 538 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: hip groin groin injury that we were told of about 539 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: a week ago. I see where you're going with us, Danny, 540 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: because we were talking about this, we were a practice 541 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: that that's just I mean, we might not know the answer, 542 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: but it's something that is curious. But employing the coach 543 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: to English translation dictionary, right, I would say it's more 544 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,719 Speaker 1: performance versus injury. Marco Wilson, that's just my sen and 545 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: that's that's what we were thinking that you know, it's Look, 546 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: here's a guy who came in. I think the way 547 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: it was set up last year was we're going to 548 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: slowly move him in and because of circumstances like the 549 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: off aforementioned Malcolm Butler and now he played all that 550 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: stuff and that Marco Wilson ended up starting all year, 551 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: and you know, maybe maybe you are to the point 552 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: where you're trying to make sure that he understands that 553 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: it was more circul You played okay, but it was 554 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: more circumstance that got you that spot. And you need to, 555 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: as Danny called it, re earn it rather than just 556 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: assume that this is your spot and and it's it's 557 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: a tough place for him to be in. I get it. 558 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you're a fourth round pick. You feel pretty 559 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: good about stuff. Uh, you feel like, hey, I started, um, 560 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: this should be I should be able to run with 561 00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: us and consciously or unconsciously, maybe you're subconsciously. I guess 562 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: unconsciously wouldn't work because you'd be knocked out. But you know, 563 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: you just you're not quite where you need to be mentally. 564 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: That was the same thought I had uncovered too with 565 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: Craig grie lewis not having any proof that necessarily Marco 566 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: Wilson is walking around with a big head or not 567 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: showing up prepared or not paying attention in the film room. 568 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: But that's kind of what my gut was was you're 569 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: in year two. You started as a rookie, you know, 570 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: had a good year, got a lot of compliments, but 571 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that you are set the way someone 572 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: like a Buyer Murphy has earned that spot. And maybe 573 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: this is just that reminder of this is only year 574 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: two for you. Yeah, I don't pay attention to anything 575 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: Craig or Lew does, so you know, I mean, Grio 576 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: Grillo has got to raise his game because he probably 577 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: failed to sight that. If you look at passer rating against, 578 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: it was not a good stat for Marco Wilson last year. 579 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: It was one twenty plus. Yeah, quarterbacks thrown against Marco 580 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: Wilson at a passer raining on one twenty plus. And 581 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: he's owned his declining performance at the end of last year. 582 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: And he's and he has said on the record, look, yeah, 583 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: it might have been a rookie wall of sorts without 584 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: me knowing it, I might have hit a rookie wall 585 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: of sorts. It is a long season. It was a 586 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: long off season going from college to the pros, which 587 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: a lot of those guys don't realize. Is you work out, 588 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: you get ready for the combine. You know, you don't 589 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: really have an off season from your last season in college, 590 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: your first season the NFL, and then it catches up 591 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: to you come November, December, January, and it appeared it 592 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: most definitely did with Marco Wilson. So the question is, Okay, 593 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: it's set. He's owned that on the record, but has 594 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: it been reflected in the work ethic and then maybe 595 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: some of the commitment. Why is it that the coach 596 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: has felt the need to repeatedly say that guess what 597 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: to be determined when it comes to corner you know, 598 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: basically put him on double secret probation. They need to 599 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: see it before they give it to him. So that's 600 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: definitely something that's going to have to be earned. And 601 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: you know, they do have bodies, whether it's Josh Jackson 602 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: or Breon Borders or you know, Jayce Whittaker has been 603 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: around this system for more than two years. So we'll 604 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: see all that plays out. But I know a lot 605 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: of fans are saying, Okay, hello, there's cap room, where's 606 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: the time time sign at cornerback? What are you waiting for? 607 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: Darren made a really good point about and maybe they 608 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: are indeed waiting after the first week or the regular season, 609 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: or maybe they're waiting for this first preseason game to 610 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: truly see because how many guys have said Okay, at 611 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: this point, the defense knows the offenses playbook, and it 612 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: gives the corners a little bit of advantage because they 613 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: pretty much know the routes that are coming in practice. 614 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: Now you're going to get a real gauge, hopefully depending 615 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: on who the Bengals play, as to what your corners 616 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: look like in a game situation. I think the other 617 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: thing too is I think it's more realistic you're going 618 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: to wait till after Week one of the regular season. 619 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: But something else of those wondering why hasn't anything happened yet, 620 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: teams haven't started cutting players. Once we get through these 621 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: some of these preseason games, there are moves that are 622 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: going to be signed. It's probably not going to be 623 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: one of those big time time signings that people are wanting, 624 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,959 Speaker 1: but pieces are going to start moving. Teams are going 625 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: to start making cuts and players that they liked, either 626 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: in the draft this year, a couple of years ago, 627 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: whatever it might be, things are going to get moved around. 628 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: I'm curious to know that there are still some veterans 629 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: on out there, whether it's Joe Hayden or Robert Alford 630 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: or Kevin King. That's why I was thinking of there 631 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: there was might be one other guy. But you know, again, 632 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: there's a reason why these guys are out there, whether 633 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: it's their level of play or their level of play 634 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: compared to what they are expecting to be paid. Um. 635 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that's part of I would think one of 636 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: the problems that Cardinals have right now is they probably 637 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: don't want to pay a ton of money for this spot. 638 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: And if you're if you've got any kind of talent 639 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: at this point, you know, the Cardinals desperately need somebody, 640 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: So you don't want to just come in and play 641 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: for nothing, because you know you're gonna have to come in. 642 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: Who is the guy who did that and made jokes 643 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: about regretting how much he signed for him? Was that 644 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: Tremont Williams? Maybe, because you know, you come in and 645 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're you're number one or number two, 646 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: and you know, if Byron Murphy has to play inside, 647 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: if you're the number one outside cornerback for a team, 648 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: you you feel like you should get paid at least 649 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: a little bit. If you're Marcus Golden right now, you're 650 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: maybe thinking that I'm the number one pass rusher on 651 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: this team. Dot dot dot. We'll see about that. I'll 652 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: tell you just looking at some of these other I mean, 653 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: you got Cincinnati, you got the preseason opener, and then 654 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: there's always those players you want to see under the lights, literally, 655 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: not just the cliche. It'll be under the lights. You 656 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: know Ba's old saying, right, get exposure or get exposed? Danny, 657 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: is there a name or a number. A guy you 658 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: really want to see, Okay look good in camp, let's 659 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: see him now in a preseason game. Who would that be? 660 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: I think looking on defense, j Sanders has looked good 661 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: in practices. He's received a lot of praise for having 662 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: that natural ability and kind of taking him to the 663 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: next level. So I would like to see him perform well. 664 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: He's going to get a lot of snaps. This is 665 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 1: a player that the Cardinals are hoping they can rely 666 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: on in that rotation with Dennis Gardek, Devon Knard in 667 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: the loss of Chandler Jones. But offensively, this one's a 668 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: little harder because, like I am excited to see Kanta 669 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 1: Ingram play. But these rookie offensive lineman have looked good. 670 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: They've been getting a lot of reps. They've been getting 671 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: and not just reps with other rookies, they've been getting 672 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,439 Speaker 1: reps with a lot of veterans as well. And so 673 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 1: when you look at Lucida Smith, who didn't play center 674 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: in college, but that's where they've been having him practice, 675 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: and Marky's Hayes, and I'm excited to see those two 676 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: as well. I know us for one player and I 677 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: gave you no, I'm gonna have multiple players too great. 678 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna lie. Given the circumstances of 679 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: all we all talked about, He's not under the radar 680 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: by any stretch of the imagination. But I want to 681 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: see Marco Wilson. I mean, the Bengals aren't going to 682 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 1: be playing Joe Burrow, and I'm guessing they're not gonna 683 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: be playing a lot of those really excellent, awesome Super 684 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: Bowl wide receivers. So he should be able to be 685 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: really good against whoever he's going against. But if we're 686 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: talking about maybe a couple of people that are under 687 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: the radar, and maybe under the radar to the point 688 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: where I don't know how likely it is they make 689 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster. But guys that I've seen 690 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: out here practice that I want to see in a 691 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: game situation. On offense, the tight end Chris Pierce Junior, 692 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: I think has made a lot of plays. Now he's 693 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: a receiver turned into a tight end, and I don't 694 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: know if he can block very well. And if I 695 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: saw one and it was one rep so that's not fair, 696 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: and it was one on one against the linebacker, and 697 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,720 Speaker 1: I forget who it was but he got beat really bad. 698 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: But he just schemes like he is in the right 699 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: place and he makes all the catches. And given how 700 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: many tight I mean, you're not gonna have Max Williams, 701 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: are not gonna Zach Ertz, probably not gonna have Trey McBride. 702 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: He's gonna get snaps in this game, especially. I want 703 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: to see how he performs on the defensive side of 704 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: the ball. Um Sanders intrigues me. But you want to 705 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: know somebody who uh And we were talking about this 706 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: a little bit. Jesse Lacidae, the seventh round pick out 707 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: of Penn State who spent a lot of his time 708 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 1: as an inside linebacker at Penn State. But they're using 709 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: him as outside linebacker and he looks pretty solid and 710 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: I know he's really smart, and I'd like to see 711 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: kind of how he does now. I'm always hesitant with 712 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: the pass rushers that are down on the depth chart 713 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: in preseason because, as we know, Paul, there's been a 714 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: couple of them over the years that I've had really 715 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,240 Speaker 1: good preseasons and then every fan gets ticked off beyond 716 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: all recognition because they don't make the team. And hashtag 717 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: cap cap cap cappy baby don't ever forget who was 718 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: the other guy? Passion always going to the door or 719 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: they explore its door. Yeah, yes, one other one. Yeah, 720 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: they were all August. We should come up with the 721 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: all August team. That's really really neat around here. The August. 722 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: I was talking to a couple of front personnel guys 723 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: for the team at practice and we were all talking 724 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: about they had come up to me because I've I'm 725 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 1: older than dirt and I've been around here so long, 726 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: and they were asking me about names of some former 727 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: wide receivers that had blown up in the in the 728 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: off season and then training camp and then it just 729 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 1: never worked. Well, my arms up, I got an answer, 730 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: whether it's Lance Long or Steven Williams. Steven Williams he 731 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: did that two years in a row, or Max Colmar 732 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: or I'm going all the way back to before I 733 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: worked for the team and I was working for the Tribune. 734 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: The Great Sea Biscuit Dan Sheldon in two thousand and five. 735 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Wow, that's a throwback, no doubt. But yeah, 736 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 1: Jesse located. That's interesting. He ran a terrible forty. I 737 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,280 Speaker 1: mean he ran like darniar, like a four nine forty 738 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: or something. Man, that's like, that's your speed? No? Was 739 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: it was? It was not good? Um. I mean you 740 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 1: know Darren, you know, tough talking Darren over here. Next 741 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: time he puts up a video of working out, let's 742 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,439 Speaker 1: see your forty. Let's go rich Eisen's forget you shooting hooves, 743 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: Let's see your rich Eisen was a backwards compliment saying 744 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: that he could run a four nine forty. Do you 745 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: think he can run four ninety? I don't think no 746 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 1: stinking way. Are you kidding me? H? He has looked 747 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: a lot faster than that in camp. Yes, now he 748 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: hasn't looked as fast as a my J. Sanders. And 749 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: and since you I've talked to a few guys about 750 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: my J. Sanders because remember players, no players, and they say, hey, Scott, 751 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: really good Ben. But he's one of those guys. I 752 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 1: think everyone to your point, Danny, I think that was 753 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: a good first pick my J. Sanders. They all want 754 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: to see what's he like at the point of attack. 755 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: Can he defend against the run? Does he have the 756 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,879 Speaker 1: ability to be an inside pass rush, because if you're 757 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: a one move pass rusher, you're done. You're done. You 758 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: have to be the ability to get the edge but 759 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: also have enough power to get inside, and so are 760 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: all still just they'll just shuffle you to the outside 761 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: every single time. So yeah, that's that's curious. I'll tell you. 762 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: The other guy at that position who a few of 763 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: the personal people have mentioned is Victor de mug He's 764 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 1: running with the first team now because of other that's 765 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: sitting out, But demukg that whole first year to the 766 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: second year, he's looked a lot better. Another smart guy. 767 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: I mean, even Dennis Dennis Gardicle is awesome. About the 768 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: comments my J Sanders on Dennis garden that was pretty funny. 769 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: Or they asked him just about Gardeck in general, and 770 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 1: you know the difference in the body types. You got 771 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: this six foot pit bull Dennis Gardeck versus the long 772 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 1: lean uh you know, six foot five my J. Sanders 773 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: and he shook his head and he my ja and 774 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: he said, yeah, Guardeck's pass rushing style is like the 775 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: craziest thing I've ever seen. But then he went on 776 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: to say he doesn't waste any steps, he doesn't waste 777 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: any motion tensional. Yeah, everything he does. And it's it's 778 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: funny because we're talking about all these pass Rushers and 779 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,760 Speaker 1: being excited to see him and everything, and it's they've 780 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: got to have all these guys. They've got to have 781 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: my j Sanders, They've got to have Dennis Gardeck, and 782 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: maybe they will need Jesse Lacaita or Victor D. McCage 783 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: at some point because who else they got. I don't 784 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: think we'll be seeing a lot of Isaiah playing in 785 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: the preseason games. I'm gonna see how many shows I 786 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: can get better. There you go, that's good, Okay, all right, 787 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: well just for that, I mean, just for that, I'm 788 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: gonna keep naming names as the players that that that 789 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: I want to see. Okay, okay, um, I tell you 790 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 1: what I to it. Thirty eight and eighty three and 791 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: Greg Door, same body type, same measurable is almost the 792 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: same number. Just flip it. And we're curious about if 793 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: your two guys they start Isabella Isabella Shell Bell, it's 794 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: but Shelly, but Shell and uh oh, and I'm drawing 795 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,839 Speaker 1: a blank on who the third start. Oh, Ron Dale, 796 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 1: rod Rondo's not gonna play NDA. You don't think it 797 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: was Bicelli. Uh well, it was Marcel Ayman if he's 798 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,399 Speaker 1: going to be able to go actually I was going 799 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 1: for well Isabella, but Dorch, the Dorch, That's who it was. 800 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: And I keep thinking to myself, I'm like, I mean, 801 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: look at the size. He's a Victor Bolden and Greg 802 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: Dorch and Andy Isabella s it's the all dominion of 803 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: American team. I mean, it's good. Marcel Aitman made a 804 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: nice catch in the back of the end zone, showing 805 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: off that six four height. Then he didn't practice the 806 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 1: next day. But yeah, I don't know what happened with 807 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: that exactly, but uh so, yeah, I mean those and 808 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 1: then in terms of the offensive lineman, yeah, Lucida Smith 809 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 1: at center Marki's Hayes, who apparently has a nasty streak 810 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 1: to him, some of the players saying he's he's got 811 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: some nasty to him. Uh seventy three. Paul, Yeah, apparently 812 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: Paul's just gonna list off. No, no, apparently he has impressed. 813 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: He's making a run of this thing. And then, you 814 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: know what, I'll be honest with you because I'm not 815 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,479 Speaker 1: sure I'm quite buying it. Just gonna keep it real, 816 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 1: Josh Jones. I know. Sean Coogler got up there and 817 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: told the media earlier this week that he's quote a 818 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: future starter. He's right now battling Josh Miles for that 819 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: swing tackle position. Here's here's my argument on Josh Jones. 820 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not trying to downplay any of 821 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: this stuff, but like to me, if you're a third 822 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: round pick and you are got a chance to be 823 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: a future starter and you're going into your third year, 824 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: how have you not been able to dislodge Kelvin Beacham? 825 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: And I think Beacham is solid, but I don't think 826 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,800 Speaker 1: it's not even a competition. No, it's just it just isn't. Nope. 827 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: So that's why I just wonder, Okay, you know, what 828 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: are we gonna see? I know when we hear on 829 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: Josh Jones, I think you need to see it. And um, 830 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: you know, like we talked about the os, it's our maintenance, 831 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 1: is what you're saying. He's not He's not a guard. 832 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: He's strictly a tackle right now. And what does that 833 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 1: mean on the final fifty three if he doesn't really 834 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: have that positional flexibility, he'll he'll be there, He'll be 835 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 1: No way he's not. He's gonna be on this roster. Yeah. Now, 836 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 1: whether he's active on game days, we'll find out. All right, 837 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: they're not cutting a third round pick after three at 838 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: to two years, that's not happening. How about someone way 839 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: off the radar. How about okay, now I know you 840 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: all Chris Pierce Junior, wasn't that was good? Victor Bolden, 841 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: that's not bad. You know, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna 842 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: go with a guy and uh he's out of the 843 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: SEC and uh he's looked good. He was a little 844 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 1: banged up earlier, but I think he's going to be 845 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: a star on special teams. He might be a guy 846 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: even who replaces a Jonathan Ward number thirty two, Javonte Peyton. 847 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that this kid apparently has quite a 848 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 1: track record as a special team's performer, soul. We'll see. 849 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 1: I'm curious if he does enough in these preseason games. Yes, 850 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 1: and he's gonna get some reps. So at wide receiver, 851 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,879 Speaker 1: you mean yeah, yes, just based on the numbers. So 852 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: someone talked to aj Green on the sideline, was that 853 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 1: you were agriologist about going back to Cincinnati, and he 854 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: downplayed it and dismissed it and everything. What's going to 855 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: be interesting is someone on the Cincinnati side will be 856 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 1: wearing AJ Green's old number. Someone you're all familiar with, 857 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: Quamiti Kwami Lasseter the second. Yeah, the son of Kwami Laster, 858 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 1: undrafted rookie out of Kansas. What are you saying? He 859 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: was playing really well? So I went to Bengals dot 860 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 1: com looking for the depth chart. No luck there, but 861 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 1: I stumbled onto a story that was just posted about 862 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: Kwami Laster the second And and here's I'm gonna read 863 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 1: this directly from the article. It's a third paragraph quote. 864 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,320 Speaker 1: Here's something else that was meant to be. Laster, undrafted 865 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver from Kansas, has been the most impressive offensive 866 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: rookie in the first days of Bengals training camp, along 867 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 1: with an undrafted receiver out of Wisconsin. And so I 868 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: don't know what their draft class consisted of. You know, 869 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 1: I know they took some offensive linemen and I think 870 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: they try to bolster that d offense. But to be 871 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 1: the most impressive offensive rookie so far by those who 872 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:10,760 Speaker 1: cover Bengals training camp, the son of the late Kwami Laster, 873 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,319 Speaker 1: that's pretty intriguing. And you figure he's going to get 874 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 1: a lot of reps and he'll get a lot of 875 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 1: notice wearing the eighteen Jersey in the Natty. That's true, 876 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 1: and and you inadvertently also teased a little bit of 877 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,960 Speaker 1: a future folk Tale right there, Paul, So nice job. Yeah, 878 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: tell us about that real quick. I know we interview 879 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 1: Junior Spivey, former Arizona Diamondbacks all Star and really close 880 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 1: friend of the late Kwami Laster, and that was an 881 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 1: excellent interview. I tell you, just some of the raw 882 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: material and interviews we've seen and heard about Kwami Laster 883 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: that that is going to be must watch, There's no 884 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,320 Speaker 1: doubt about it. Yes, that's I don't know the time 885 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 1: frame on some of this stuff because we are been 886 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: overwhelmed with a lot of things, but there will be 887 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: a second season of folk Tales and that will be 888 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 1: one of the episodes that I'm looking forward to seeing. Yeah, Dan, 889 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: whatever it might drop. Danny, you're working on a couple, 890 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 1: aren't you the folk Tales? Yes, you're the point person. Yeah, 891 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: are you at Liberty to tell us what is one 892 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 1: of the time I actually actually conducted the interview with 893 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 1: Eric Lassiter, which was a really, really wonderful interview. She 894 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 1: was fantastic. I don't think we've officially announced all the 895 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: actual episodes yet Oh I'm sorry, Yeah, overstepping my bounds 896 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 1: as usual. So okay, all right, Uh well, other than that, 897 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 1: I guess that I'll do it. I tell you, um, 898 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:39,359 Speaker 1: so far in camp. Any other bizarre world happenings that 899 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: you know that that have come to mind that you've 900 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 1: I mean, some of the practices have been like the 901 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: fourth quarter of a preseason game, and uh, some of 902 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 1: the practice has actually been pretty We actually had a 903 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,879 Speaker 1: scrap today. Here's how we end this thing. We what 904 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: was a scrap today was Zach Allen was involved and 905 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 1: Justin Pugh and Sean Harlowe was in there. So not 906 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: bad scrappy. On this Tuesday that we're recording this, it's 907 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: also offensive line coach Sean Coogler's birthday, It is linebacker 908 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,479 Speaker 1: Dennis car Deck's birthday, and it is head coach Cliff 909 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 1: Kingsbury's birthday, all on the same day, All on the 910 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 1: same day. I wonder what Cliff's girlfriend on him. No, 911 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,840 Speaker 1: you're you're smiling, And I wish I was in the 912 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,240 Speaker 1: no one laughing. I wish I was on the inside 913 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,839 Speaker 1: of that joke. But as usually as well, he safe 914 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 1: travels for you guys, for the preseason game in Cincinnati. 915 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,879 Speaker 1: Fact that Darren now has his hood on and he's 916 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 1: making jokes like waiting wear a bucket hat and I 917 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 1: can't put my head on. All I don't know, is 918 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 1: this like an alter ego and a different persona he's 919 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 1: he's in right now with the silacious and sensational at 920 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: the very end, cold in here it is. I had 921 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 1: to pull my ankle socks up through my shins when 922 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,800 Speaker 1: I got inks. It was so chilly, actually, the humidity 923 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,839 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. I might have to borrow the bucket hat 924 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 1: because the Frizze factor will be back. By the way, 925 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: Danny's in her high top, so maybe she can go 926 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 1: play some hoops. I you know what, actually jokes on 927 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 1: you because in seventh and eighth grade, I was on 928 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,359 Speaker 1: the A team for my middle school basketball team both years. Now, 929 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 1: I wasn't very good. It's because I was playing club soccer, 930 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: so I had these stamina to keep up with all 931 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 1: the girls who did play club basketball. But jokes on you, 932 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 1: because I was on the A team for two years 933 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 1: in middle school, Darren, So when you guys play basketball, 934 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 1: you're gonna invite me. Now, I never go play basketball 935 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 1: with her. Coworkers. That is between you and them. That's 936 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: how Darren makes a team. You just gotta put that 937 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: video on the trying to audition for those guys. That's right, 938 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 1: all right, Well, there's always next time. We'll see as 939 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,839 Speaker 1: Darren continues his antics as an influencer on social media. 940 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,280 Speaker 1: And that'll do it for this edition of Cardinal's Underground, 941 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,320 Speaker 1: brought you by Pacific Office Automation