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Speaker 4: What is up, Dolphins?
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Speaker 3: How's it going, everybody? I am your host, Travis Wingfield
Speaker 3: and on today's show, so yeah, I did just run
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Speaker 3: to see how it sounds. I think I'm going to
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Speaker 4: The great BJ Kissel.
Speaker 3: You guys don't want to miss this podcast because well
Speaker 3: you're already here, so am I telling you this? But
Speaker 3: Bj worked for the Chiefs and now has his own
Speaker 3: Kansas City Sports podcasting network, which is pretty cool, pretty
Speaker 3: cool if you ask me. We'll talk to him about
Speaker 3: Dolphins and Chiefs. We'll pick the week nine games, We'll
Speaker 3: hear from the assistant coaches, all of that and more
Speaker 3: from somewhere in South Florida.
Speaker 4: This is the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 3: Maye no wasting time. My guest today from CAC Sports Network,
Speaker 3: Bj Kissel. I am very excited for my guest today.
Speaker 3: He is BJ Kissel, founder and CEO of the Kansas
Speaker 3: City Sports Network. Formerly he was me of the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: He got his ring back in twenty twenty and Bj,
Speaker 3: it's been a long time, my man. I have so
Speaker 3: many questions for you, But first, how are you.
Speaker 5: I'm doing well. I appreciate this. Travis is going to
Speaker 5: talk to you. And any time you can bring memories
Speaker 5: of Miami. I'll always think fondly of Miami and the
Speaker 5: stadium because that's where the Chiefs won the Super Bowl
Speaker 5: against San Francisco, one of the greatest professional moments.
Speaker 2: Of my life.
Speaker 5: So I always have a soft spot there and always
Speaker 5: enjoy talking with you, man.
Speaker 3: Like I told you, man, million questions regarding the launch
Speaker 3: of k CS and in your career today. But we'll
Speaker 3: take that off the air after this question, because I'm
Speaker 3: curious to know as someone who won the ring with
Speaker 3: the team but then also got a chance and you know,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say you're a fan now, but maybe a
Speaker 3: little bit more in the fan realm of things to
Speaker 3: get the ring in that capacity, How would you compare
Speaker 3: those two?
Speaker 2: Oh man, it's completely different.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: So much of what we're.
Speaker 5: Doing now is about you know, time and just understanding
Speaker 5: the kind of the landscape of sports media and kind
Speaker 5: of leaning into the platforms of where people are going
Speaker 5: right now, you know.
Speaker 2: And it's not a unique thing. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: people doing it around the country. You know.
Speaker 5: We were able to when we launched Case Sports Network
Speaker 5: do it with a lot of you know, friends, a
Speaker 5: lot of people I've known for a really long time
Speaker 5: and some really great people. Uh, and it's able to
Speaker 5: it's been able to grow pretty quickly. But yeah, it's
Speaker 5: been an interesting journey for me, starting off as a
Speaker 5: blogger on the outside, working my way up to you know,
Speaker 5: insider on the sideline of a Super Bowl, and then
Speaker 5: stepping away from that and putting some other things, my family,
Speaker 5: you know, seeing my kids and not traveling quite as
Speaker 5: much some of those things. I've been nothing to positive
Speaker 5: things to say about the organization and my time there.
Speaker 5: But you know, in your position, it's it's a demanding position,
Speaker 5: and it asked a lot of you.
Speaker 2: Uh and for me, it was just it was the
Speaker 2: right time.
Speaker 5: It was right when COVID kicked up, and yeah, I
Speaker 5: had a phenomenal opportunity, phenomenal people who work there, and yeah,
Speaker 5: I feel blessed of had that opportunity and love what
Speaker 5: we're doing now, Love what I'm doing now with people
Speaker 5: i'm doing it with.
Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, it's been a crazy journey.
Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of that family time, I was supposed to
Speaker 3: go to journey this week, our our babysitter fell through.
Speaker 4: Was going to be a whole me and my wife thing.
Speaker 3: But then the babysitter falls through and I got to
Speaker 3: do trick or treating last night. So not about trade
Speaker 3: off there with the little ones. Let's go ahead and
Speaker 3: talk about some football here though, because we have a massive,
Speaker 3: massive game and you guys have played in a lot
Speaker 3: of these over the last you know, six plus years
Speaker 3: or whatever it is, and the Dolphins are kind of
Speaker 3: getting their feet wet in these massive games against you know,
Speaker 3: fellow contenders.
Speaker 4: Let's go ahead and start here, BJ.
Speaker 3: You know, new offensive corrior this year in an offense
Speaker 3: that you know is built around Andy Reid and Pat Mahomes,
Speaker 3: but there is a new OC there and you've got
Speaker 3: a lot of turnover at their wide receiver position in
Speaker 3: the last couple of years as well. Do you think
Speaker 3: the Chiefs have kind of used these first two months
Speaker 3: as a bit of a like filling out period, like
Speaker 3: who are we type of period? And if so, to
Speaker 3: get through that at six and two, that to me
Speaker 3: sort of speaks to the spoiled nature of Chiefs fans
Speaker 3: the last half decade plus.
Speaker 5: I'm glad you said that, and now I will not
Speaker 5: take a fan. And to answer from earlier, yes, I'm
Speaker 5: absolutely a fan. I was a fan before I was
Speaker 5: a fan when I was working there. I grew up
Speaker 5: a Chiefs fan. I grew up in Kansas City, and
Speaker 5: so it was a natural transition for me and everywhere
Speaker 5: I've been to just be myself, share my feelings about
Speaker 5: things as I genuinely am optimistic and want things to
Speaker 5: get better.
Speaker 2: And I like what you said there about just kind of.
Speaker 5: The spoiled nature of Chiefs fans, because we've definitely heard
Speaker 5: it this week. You know, we've talked a lot locally about,
Speaker 5: you know, the young wide receivers. It was a storyline
Speaker 5: from the beginning. I don't know how much the OC
Speaker 5: has to do with it. That would be more like
Speaker 5: behind the scenes of knowing what those dynamics are like.
Speaker 5: Eric Binemy was beloved in Kansas City, but so was
Speaker 5: Matt Naggy outside of anywhere but Chicago. People are gonna
Speaker 5: tell you positive things about Matt Naggy and what he's brought,
Speaker 5: and I believe Patrick Mahomes will tell you the same thing,
Speaker 5: that he's a value add in there, not any more
Speaker 5: or less than than the enemy in that way. But
Speaker 5: the big storyline for the Chiefs offense and kind of
Speaker 5: the feeling out period, as you said, we kind of
Speaker 5: all knew this. I was on the bandwagon of they
Speaker 5: need a veteran receiver this offseason, whether it was Odell
Speaker 5: Beckham who they were linked to, or DeAndre Hopkins who
Speaker 5: they were linked to. You know, financially, they can only
Speaker 5: do so much on and get creative with the cap
Speaker 5: and do different things but they kind of bet on
Speaker 5: this young receiving group developing. They whether or not us
Speaker 5: fans on the outside have sped up what we want
Speaker 5: to see that development process look like or whether it's
Speaker 5: in the line with what they expected. Only Coach Reid
Speaker 5: and the guys in the room could probably tell you that,
Speaker 5: But from the outside, I won't.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna see here and.
Speaker 5: Say I'm completely surprised at what we're seeing, because you know,
Speaker 5: we've talked a lot about this over the last couple
Speaker 5: of weeks, specially you know, so far this week. But
Speaker 5: you know you are asking those those six and they
Speaker 5: kept seven wide receivers on the roster this year. You know,
Speaker 5: for the Chiefs, you were asking every one of those
Speaker 5: guys to be better than they've ever been in their career,
Speaker 5: which is a big ask to make everybody step forward
Speaker 5: in order for your offense to function the way that
Speaker 5: you are accustomed to seeing them function.
Speaker 2: And so much.
Speaker 5: And I don't know anything about Mike McDaniel's other than
Speaker 5: to your point, he seems like a really fun guy
Speaker 5: to cover. I think I would love covering Mike McDaniel
Speaker 5: in his just sarcastic way of doing that gets just
Speaker 5: exactly what's needed right now in my opinion, with the
Speaker 5: way sports media and social media and all that like,
Speaker 5: it's a perfect fit there. But you know, with Andy
Speaker 5: Reid's offense, so much of what they put on these
Speaker 5: receivers isn't necessarily They call play and they know what
Speaker 5: route they're running. You know, they run out and they
Speaker 5: read where the linebackers are. They read what the coverage
Speaker 5: is and that dictates whether it's a ten yard rout
Speaker 5: or a five yard out, whether it's a slant put
Speaker 5: like all the different things. There's option routes within all
Speaker 5: of these things, and they all have specific responsibilities to
Speaker 5: pull safeties, pull linebackers away from other areas to create
Speaker 5: space for guys to be open. Well, if one guy
Speaker 5: is off on that, it changes everything about where Patrick
Speaker 5: Mahomes expects defenders to be. It's a very fluid type thing.
Speaker 5: I know Chris Conley years ago said that Andy Reid's
Speaker 5: offense is a fluid thing and it's always changing. There's
Speaker 5: an answer for everything, but it puts a lot on
Speaker 5: those young receivers. So even going into the trade deadline,
Speaker 5: the point was it's going to be really hard for
Speaker 5: them to trade for even the most talented receiver in
Speaker 5: the NFL to come in and pick up this offense
Speaker 5: right away. All they could really do is kind of
Speaker 5: what they did with the Canarius Tony last year when
Speaker 5: they traded for him, was they give him a certain
Speaker 5: package set of plays that they learn, and he knows
Speaker 5: those plays. Chiefs are a position where they need somebody
Speaker 5: to go out there and get open against zone, get
Speaker 5: open against man, and know the rules within the offense,
Speaker 5: and b where Patrick Mahomes expects. Haven't seen it from
Speaker 5: the young group yet. All of the analytics, the numbers
Speaker 5: back that up. The things that we see on the
Speaker 5: field are backing that up. But it's not dire because
Speaker 5: there's still a top ten offense. It's just not the
Speaker 5: everything's being let on fire that we've come to see,
Speaker 5: kind of like what we're seeing down to Miami. It
Speaker 5: seems like, yeah, so I think they're going to get there.
Speaker 5: They have all the pieces in place that they need.
Speaker 5: Outside of some young receivers believing they can get there.
Speaker 5: The people in the room think they can get there.
Speaker 5: They were drafted for a reason, they're there for a reason.
Speaker 5: It's just you haven't seen that development yet. And that's
Speaker 5: going to be the storyline for the Chiefs for the
Speaker 5: rest of the regular season.
Speaker 3: This is why you were the perfect guest to get
Speaker 3: off with the show today because my next question was,
Speaker 3: you know, I haven't started the Chiefs like up close
Speaker 3: personal since twenty twenty, the last time the Dolphins played
Speaker 3: against KC down here in Miami. And the first thing
Speaker 3: I noticed was, like, all these concepts that I recognize.
Speaker 3: You know, there's certain route combinations that you've seen across
Speaker 3: the entire National Football League, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey just stops doing what you think is supposed
Speaker 3: to happen on that play and goes somewhere else or
Speaker 3: turns over the wrong shoulders. It's fascinating to watch because
Speaker 3: he does that, you're thinking that's a broken play. But
Speaker 3: then the Hoomes is like, somehow telepathically on the same page.
Speaker 3: But it sounds like you're telling me that's the entire offense,
Speaker 3: which would make sense of why it is difficult for
Speaker 3: younger players. And my preview podcast, I talked about how
Speaker 3: the Chiefs receiving corps is essentially rebuilt over the last
Speaker 3: two years. Everyone from that's playing right now has been
Speaker 3: acquired over the last couple of seasons. So do you
Speaker 3: think that that is the I guess you kind of
Speaker 3: answered them already, but it's beyond just Kelsey who does that.
Speaker 5: It sounds like, yeah, no, they all do it, but
Speaker 5: this year specifically, I don't know if Travis Kelsey, like,
Speaker 5: I'm sure they call it play and he has a route,
Speaker 5: but I think him home just kind of understand. And
Speaker 5: I've joke because you see like the next gen stats
Speaker 5: graphics that come out that show like routes and Kelsey's
Speaker 5: are just like a bunch of.
Speaker 4: Zigs like actual routes.
Speaker 5: It's not a route like you look at you like,
Speaker 5: there's no way that that's a drawn route. Anybody's ever
Speaker 5: anything like, there's no way that's the actual route. But
Speaker 5: it's him just kind of running out there reading that
Speaker 5: He's basically doing what Mahomes is doing in the pocket.
Speaker 2: He's just doing it.
Speaker 5: He's running down the field and they'll just turn around
Speaker 5: and get open and he and Patrick Mahomes just have
Speaker 5: that thing where they understand where each other, you know,
Speaker 5: need to be. And I've said before that you know
Speaker 5: both of those guys, Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes. They get
Speaker 5: all the credit in the world for the highlights, and
Speaker 5: we talk about the things that they've done, but it's
Speaker 5: the mental side of understanding the game, understanding what defensers
Speaker 5: are trying to do, that has probably never gotten enough
Speaker 5: credit and has been more instrumental in their success than
Speaker 5: the physical attributes. And I think Travis Kelsey's game, if
Speaker 5: that guy wants to play till he's in his forties,
Speaker 5: he can lose all the athleticism in the world, but
Speaker 5: he's got enough to get open because he knows how
Speaker 5: to read a coverage. He knows, you know, where to
Speaker 5: kind of wiggle and where to kind of press on.
Speaker 5: The different rules of defense is these guys study the
Speaker 5: defense as much as they study, you know, their offense.
Speaker 5: At this point, they know what these guys on the
Speaker 5: defense are being taught to do in certain situations and
Speaker 5: they know how to exploit it. And so you see
Speaker 5: a lot of Patrick Mahomes and Travis Keller. He just
Speaker 5: runs across the middle and those you know, a five
Speaker 5: to seven yard route. But yeah, it's it's definitely a
Speaker 5: different look for the Chiefs offense. I mean, ever, you know,
Speaker 5: since Tyreek Hill left, you know, I saw stat you
Speaker 5: know this past week that Markquez Valdez Scantling caught a
Speaker 5: touch It's like a forty seven yard touchdown a couple
Speaker 5: weeks ago on a broken play, and it was the
Speaker 5: first touchdown pass that Patrick Mahomes had thrown over twenty
Speaker 5: yards in the air since the beginning of the twenty
Speaker 5: twenty one season.
Speaker 2: And that was that blew my mind to think about that.
Speaker 5: And you look at his like deep passing like that,
Speaker 5: the twenty yards or more air yards from the first
Speaker 5: few years of his career to now completely different. They've
Speaker 5: re kind of revamped that offense. And it's a testament
Speaker 5: to Andy Reid's testament to Patrick Mahomes. They don't have,
Speaker 5: you know, the most explosive player in NFL history on
Speaker 5: their roster anymore. He's down with you guys, you know,
Speaker 5: being a frontrunner for the MVP right now. But it's
Speaker 5: it's a bit of credit to them, but also it's
Speaker 5: been a maturation process for Chiefs fans that are accustomed
Speaker 5: to just bombs all over the place that hey, it's
Speaker 5: gonna look a little different now. And honestly, right now
Speaker 5: they're leaning more in their defense and their defense has
Speaker 5: been much better than it's been at any point in
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes's career. And so it's a give and take.
Speaker 5: It's that complimentary football. But yeah, again it goes back
Speaker 5: to those young receivers. And you know this week I
Speaker 5: didn't necessarily call him out, but markquez Veld that Scantling
Speaker 5: is to me the guy who needs to step up.
Speaker 5: He's a veteran in that room. He's been in the
Speaker 5: system as long as anybody. Somebody needs to step up
Speaker 5: and start taking some of those big targets, and that
Speaker 5: guy has not yet emerged outside of Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 3: You once again have answered my next question here, Bex.
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you which guy you want to
Speaker 3: look at with the rest of the eligibles in terms
Speaker 3: of who the Dolphin should pay attention to beyond Travis Kelcey.
Speaker 3: And you know I always start these shows by asking
Speaker 3: the opposing reporter or you know, analyst about the opposing core.
Speaker 3: But and no slide to Mahomes. I just don't think
Speaker 3: it's necessary because I know what we're getting. I know
Speaker 3: he's probably the best of all time in my opinion,
Speaker 3: to play this position, to play this sport, And so
Speaker 3: I think that the statue gave me about the you know,
Speaker 3: twenty air yard throws. To me, that's a credit to
Speaker 3: him in terms of the maturation of his you know,
Speaker 3: his development as a quarterback. You know, we see Josh
Speaker 3: Allen has kind of taken that same approach where teams
Speaker 3: are saying, you're not going to get the deep ball,
Speaker 3: and if you don't have a guy who can run
Speaker 3: through bracket coverages like we have down here every single
Speaker 3: week for a long touchdown, it makes it a little
Speaker 3: bit tougher. So you allude to the tough defense the
Speaker 3: Chiefs have played this year. I'll go ahead and skip
Speaker 3: forward to that because.
Speaker 5: And I'll throw this in there. I think MVS needs
Speaker 5: Mark weez Vel. This gaantly needs to be the one
Speaker 5: to step up because he's getting his cap hits at
Speaker 5: eleven million dollars. The entire Chiefs cap hit room outside
Speaker 5: of him is nine and a half. I mean, he
Speaker 5: is the one guy getting paid in that room. Somebody's
Speaker 5: got to step up. I think he should be doing more.
Speaker 5: But what we've seen on the field is that Patrick
Speaker 5: Holhomes trust Justin Watson. If he's throwing the ball deep,
Speaker 5: he will give Justin Watson a fifty to fifty ball
Speaker 5: chance to go make a play. So if he's gonna
Speaker 5: throw it deep, chances are better than not that it's
Speaker 5: going to go to eighty four. It's gonna go to
Speaker 5: Justin Watson and then Rashie Rice number four. The rookie
Speaker 5: has been a guy across the middle that has made
Speaker 5: some plays and stepped up for the Chiefs. But again,
Speaker 5: you're asking a lot of some young receivers who haven't proven.
Speaker 2: To be able to do that yet.
Speaker 5: They can't prove it until they have the opportunity to
Speaker 5: go out there and make the plays. But Justin Watson,
Speaker 5: he was banged up for a little bit and miss
Speaker 5: some time with injury, and now he's back, he might
Speaker 5: be the chiefs number one wide receiver. Which is crazy
Speaker 5: is there are a lot of fans here locally that
Speaker 5: didn't think, they didn't want him to even make the roster,
Speaker 5: and as it looks right now, he's one of the
Speaker 5: guys that Patrick Mahomes you can tell trust.
Speaker 4: Yes, cause you mentioned it's funny how it goes.
Speaker 3: You have Sky Moore, a second round draft pick, You
Speaker 3: trade a mid draft pick for Cadarius Tony, You go
Speaker 3: out and you put the big free agent tag on
Speaker 3: Marquez Valdez Scandling, and sometimes it just works out that
Speaker 3: way where somebody else rises up and becomes that guy.
Speaker 3: And you know I mentioned the defense or you mentioned
Speaker 3: the defense and the previous answer, I think it starts
Speaker 3: with Chris Jones IoT. That would be foolish to go
Speaker 3: anywhere else with this defense. Just want to get your
Speaker 3: take on the attention that he commands and kind of
Speaker 3: who benefits the most from all that he does, because
Speaker 3: he's one of these players where you know, you can
Speaker 3: be a guy who eats up double teams and your
Speaker 3: production goes down. It's an impactful game even though your
Speaker 3: stat sheet is an impactful but he does that and
Speaker 3: still impacts the stat sheet. Tell us about Chris Jones
Speaker 3: and the impact he has.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a game wrecker. He's been every bit as advertised.
Speaker 5: I think he's probably coming off what and I haven't
Speaker 5: seen the reports or you know, the presidents with him,
Speaker 5: but probably his worst game so far this year. He
Speaker 5: had been so dominant that coming off the Denver game
Speaker 5: didn't make the same kind of impact that we had
Speaker 5: seen in other games this season.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he opens up everything.
Speaker 5: You go back and watch a lot of the highlights
Speaker 5: so far, the last couple of games of Charles Amenehu,
Speaker 5: who's probably the biggest free agent pickup for the Chiefs,
Speaker 5: defensively on what he can do athletically with the stunts,
Speaker 5: the twists and is it just athleticism along the defensive
Speaker 5: line that he's going to be one of the guys
Speaker 5: who really benefits from a lot of the attention that
Speaker 5: Chris has gotten. Haven't seen or I don't have a
Speaker 5: ton of examples, just because he did serve a six
Speaker 5: game suspension to start the season, but some of the
Speaker 5: highlights in the games of the last few weeks defensively,
Speaker 5: some interceptions inside the red zones and Keith third down stops.
Speaker 5: Most of it is because and you go back and
Speaker 5: watch the all twenty two and you see what's going on.
Speaker 5: There's so much attention on Chris that the other guys
Speaker 5: are wreaking havoc. And one particular instance inside the red zone,
Speaker 5: it was Charles amenne who got put one on one
Speaker 5: right guards slid over to help with Chris Jones. Because
Speaker 5: Chris will move around, Chris will basically get to choose
Speaker 5: on third downs, which offensive lineman. He lines up over
Speaker 5: and then everybody kind of adjusts to that. But it's
Speaker 5: all predicated on Chris the attention he gets. But can't
Speaker 5: not mention. George carl loftis the second year edge rusher.
Speaker 5: He has been phenomenal so far forward the Chiefs this year.
Speaker 5: I think he's in the top six or eight in
Speaker 5: pressures quarterback pressures according to Pro Football Focus. Just had
Speaker 5: two and a half sacks against Denver. I think the
Speaker 5: Chiefs as a whole are on pace to set a
Speaker 5: franchise record for sacks this season. Their defensive line is solid.
Speaker 5: They're banged up at linebacker right now. It's probably one
Speaker 5: of the bigger outside of wide receivers in just the
Speaker 5: passing game. The depth at linebacker is going to be
Speaker 5: something to watch for this one. Willie Gay Junior is
Speaker 5: out with an injury. We know Nick Bolton broke his wrist.
Speaker 5: He's out for two months. As their Pro Bowl kind
Speaker 5: of all everything middle linebacker guy gets everybody set.
Speaker 2: Drew Trankwell has.
Speaker 5: Been phenomenal as an offseason pickup for the Chiefs and
Speaker 5: extremely valuable that he was added. But their two best
Speaker 5: linebackers or two of their three best linebackers are down
Speaker 5: and will probably likely not play against Miami, so that's something.
Speaker 5: And then the secondary has been great. Trent McDuffie is
Speaker 5: a blossom star in the NFL. He is a stud
Speaker 5: at cornerback. Now he's got his work cut out for
Speaker 5: him obviously against the Dolphins. And then Lagerious Sneed's coming
Speaker 5: off a tough game. He had four penalties last week
Speaker 5: against the Broncos, but he generally the one that follows
Speaker 5: the best receiver, Steve Speckndael likes to do that, and
Speaker 5: so you'll see thirty eight lined up on those guys,
Speaker 5: but normally he takes the bigger body guy when you
Speaker 5: have two lightning fast dudes. I have no idea how
Speaker 5: they're going to try to contain this offense, but the
Speaker 5: chief defense has been a surprisingly great storyline so far
Speaker 5: at a time that they're six and two because of
Speaker 5: the defense while the offense is still trying to figure
Speaker 5: things out.
Speaker 3: That's crazy to think about, I mean, because it's it's
Speaker 3: one of these situations where I look back to, like
Speaker 3: the Patriots run for two decades, where sometimes it didn't
Speaker 3: really come together until you know, Halloween or Thanksgiving. It
Speaker 3: seems like the Chiefs could be in the exact same
Speaker 3: track where all of a sudden, the defense is really
Speaker 3: good and the offense is going to figure it out
Speaker 3: at some point. Like I would not bet against the
Speaker 3: Chiefs for twenty games or whatever they play this year
Speaker 3: to not you know, become that explosive version of themselves
Speaker 3: on offense like they are every single year. It also
Speaker 3: sounds like maybe for the first time all year, Miami
Speaker 3: might be on the benefit of the injury report this
Speaker 3: week because Dolphins are getting some guys back. It sounds
Speaker 3: like Connor Williams could return, possibly to Ron Armstead, to
Speaker 3: the offensive line against that Chiefs front that had generated
Speaker 3: all that pressure. And on the other side, you talk
Speaker 3: about the Chiefs, you know, receiving Corps child Ramsey's it
Speaker 3: sounds like xaviering Howard's gonna play Javon Holland's back as well.
Speaker 4: It could be the first game we have with.
Speaker 3: Holland, Ramsey and Xavier Howard in the entire year, So
Speaker 3: we kind of have that same thing in terms of
Speaker 3: haven't seen the full compliment, but they're six and two
Speaker 3: and a great spot heading into a game that to me,
Speaker 3: BJ I think this game could determine home field advantage
Speaker 3: in the AFC.
Speaker 4: It's that big of a game, you know, at this
Speaker 4: point of the year.
Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and finish with this though, because you
Speaker 3: touched on all the defensive positions and great stuff there.
Speaker 3: I'm curious see what it looks like without Nick Bolton.
Speaker 3: But you know, Steve Spagnolo is one of the famed
Speaker 3: pressure creators in the National Football League's history, whether it's
Speaker 3: those Giants teams and just sending flour man rushers and
Speaker 3: getting a Super Bowl championship out of it, or the
Speaker 3: Chiefs team that likes to blitz so much with you know,
Speaker 3: last year cover zero blitzer.
Speaker 4: This year it seems to be more fire zones.
Speaker 3: Just tell me what you think it looks like on Sunday, because,
Speaker 3: like you mentioned, this offense, if you blitz them, you
Speaker 3: can get burned if you hang back, like it's tough
Speaker 3: to deal with this offense offense, What do you think
Speaker 3: we see on Sunday?
Speaker 5: You know, if I had the answer to that question,
Speaker 5: I would be to court it. What I would do,
Speaker 5: honestly as I would blitz the ever lovin out of them.
Speaker 2: I don't care if you get burned.
Speaker 5: If you sit back there long enough, Tyreek jayl those
Speaker 5: guys they're gonna run through your brackets, They're gonna run
Speaker 5: through your zones. And the more, if you get the
Speaker 5: ball out of his hands, you have a chance to
Speaker 5: rally tackle and bring him down or cause some sort
Speaker 5: of disruption. I always like the pressure. That's why I
Speaker 5: love Steve Spegnolo's defensive coordinarty. He's not afraid to go
Speaker 5: zero and just send the house. It's a lot easier
Speaker 5: said than done when you're dealing with the speed that
Speaker 5: they've got in the background. To put those guys in
Speaker 5: one on one, I wouldn't expect necessarily a ton of
Speaker 5: cover zero against this group because of what they can
Speaker 5: do with them. You know, one on one is a
Speaker 5: tough situation. It's a lot to ask, but you put
Speaker 5: a couple of safeties back and you do a lot
Speaker 5: of zone blitzer, try to get the ball out of
Speaker 5: his hands and then come up and make tackles. It's
Speaker 5: probably their best bet. But again, they have had some
Speaker 5: success getting pressured.
Speaker 2: Just with the four guys.
Speaker 5: He's not afraid to send the pressure, especially get into
Speaker 5: those shot areas. You get into the you know, thirty
Speaker 5: to fifty yard like thirty thirty yard line to midfield.
Speaker 5: It's when the Dolphins like to take shots, when all
Speaker 5: NFL teams like to take those deep shots. It's also
Speaker 5: when Spags likes to send the house. So that part
Speaker 5: of it, I'm fascinated to see how they try and
Speaker 5: attack it. Not go to say last week was a
Speaker 5: trap game. Whenever things like this happen where the Chiefs
Speaker 5: kind of have their backs against the wall.
Speaker 2: We've seen it during Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 5: We all kind of get sucked into the I don't
Speaker 5: feel good about this, and then they come out and
Speaker 5: play really well. I wouldn't expect you know, that game
Speaker 5: against the Broncos last week, it was the first time
Speaker 5: in forty one consecutive games that the Chiefs had lost
Speaker 5: by more than a possession, or been down by even
Speaker 5: more than a possession, I think, or something like that.
Speaker 2: That wasn't that. I think it was lost by more
Speaker 2: than a possess. It is crazy stat that Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 2: and Andy Reid had together. But I think you're exactly right.
Speaker 2: I think that there's a good.
Speaker 5: Chance at this game will determine in some very impactful
Speaker 5: way who has home field advantage. The Chiefs, obviously hosting
Speaker 5: it five straight years, would love to continue hosting a
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes never played in an AFC Championship game anywhere
Speaker 5: but Arrowood Stadium.
Speaker 2: But we'll see what happened.
Speaker 3: And maybe you can come back to South Florida and
Speaker 3: enjoy our beautiful facilities once again inn AAFC Championship game
Speaker 3: this time around, perhaps and maybe look at the same
Speaker 3: result this time though.
Speaker 4: Will still that's a long way down the road.
Speaker 3: I always end these conversations the exact same way, and
Speaker 3: you've been grace so far, BJ, so I appreciate your
Speaker 3: time today. But the Chiefs will win this game if
Speaker 3: and the Dolphins will win this game if and then
Speaker 3: you kind of round out those blanks for us.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, Okay, Chiefs will win this game if they
Speaker 5: do not turn the ball over. I think that's probably more.
Speaker 5: The Chiefs will absolutely not win if they do turn
Speaker 5: it over, as opposed to guarantee they will if they don't,
Speaker 5: and then the Dolphins will win this game. I'll say
Speaker 5: the same thing if they don't turn it over. I
Speaker 5: think giving either one of these offenses extra possessions is
Speaker 5: going to be a detriment to the other. I think
Speaker 5: both offenses will score. I think, you know, as much
Speaker 5: as we've seen the Chiefs offense struggle again, when Andy
Speaker 5: Reid gets in these positions and he has time, they'll
Speaker 5: put a game play together that could be successful.
Speaker 2: Now, how much is that.
Speaker 5: Leaning on the development of the young receivers and just
Speaker 5: making them do what's right or pivoting and saying, Okay,
Speaker 5: we're gonna change some things up, simplify some things to
Speaker 5: go find success. No one's gonna question Andy Reid in
Speaker 5: that regard. So I'm excited to see how much better
Speaker 5: they get because you know, he's banked on this group
Speaker 5: and he's one of the best coaches in NFL history
Speaker 5: for a reason. He's an offensive genius in that way.
Speaker 5: I'm not unlike a young Mike McDaniel right now in
Speaker 5: the way that he's being described. So I'm really excited
Speaker 5: for this game. I'm excited that it's early, get up,
Speaker 5: get it done, get it taken care of, and then
Speaker 5: have the rest of your day with the kiddos. But
Speaker 5: it's gonna be a good one. It's crazy to me
Speaker 5: that Germany gets the NFL Game of the Year. The
Speaker 5: regular season Game of the Year yea, and not that
Speaker 5: game playing an Arrowhead. But it's gonna be a fun one, man.
Speaker 3: So much of those conversation BJ is like looking in
Speaker 3: a mirror in terms of the way you see the
Speaker 3: game and just your overall thoughts and comments on your
Speaker 3: team and the Dolphins as well. We're really good stuff, man, BJ.
Speaker 3: Kissel case Sports Network, excellent content over there on all
Speaker 3: things Chiefs, Royals, Wildcats, Sporting Casey.
Speaker 4: We get that far.
Speaker 5: Into it, yeah, Sporting That's why I said I'm excited
Speaker 5: for Sunday because the Chiefs game at eight they are
Speaker 5: obviously Chiefs Dolphins at eight thirty, and we've got a
Speaker 5: big soccer game, the playoff game two against Saint Louis
Speaker 5: at four o'clock on Sunday afternoon, and then Sporting Casey
Speaker 5: can advance in the playoffs against a Newish rival. The
Speaker 5: Saint Louis brought their soccer team back, but can't see
Speaker 5: Saint Louis has got the rivalry going on. So there's
Speaker 5: been a lot of trash talk so far between the
Speaker 5: fan bases. So I got some soccer, and I'm not
Speaker 5: a huge soccer guy, but obviously with the network. We've
Speaker 5: got great soccer content with our hosts over there, and
Speaker 5: they've been mixing it up with the Saint Louis fans,
Speaker 5: So it's going to be a fun one.
Speaker 3: And maybe one of these days MESSI coming to a
Speaker 3: town near you from inter Miami as well.
Speaker 4: Great stuff, PJ.
Speaker 3: Appreciate your time today, Man, keep up the great work.
Speaker 3: It's awesome to see you thriving and killing him.
Speaker 2: Man appreciate it.
Speaker 4: And away he goes.
Speaker 3: Just a really big fan of what BJ has done
Speaker 3: in his post Chiefs career. Pretty cool to hear him
Speaker 3: talk about how they've grown and how they've established a
Speaker 3: foothold there in the CAC sports market.
Speaker 4: Pretty cool.
Speaker 3: Go ahead and take our last break right there. Come
Speaker 3: back on the other side, we'll hear from Vic FANGI
Speaker 3: owned Frank Smith and pick the week nine games. That's
Speaker 3: next Drivetime podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you
Speaker 3: by Auto Nation, Segment three here on a Thursday, ahead
Speaker 3: of week nine kicking off tonight. We'll pick the games
Speaker 3: here in just one second, but first let's go ahead
Speaker 3: and hear from both Vic FANGI own Frank Smith and
Speaker 3: before I play their soundbites, the disparity in their experience
Speaker 3: in Germany, and Frank Smith has German heritage, but the
Speaker 3: difference in their answers about how special it was to
Speaker 3: go over there. Vic basically saying just another game for me.
Speaker 3: I go to the practice field, I go to the hotel,
Speaker 3: and then Frank kind of wax poetic about the experience
Speaker 3: of plague in Germany. I just thought it was the
Speaker 3: perfect description of both of those men and how they
Speaker 3: view things. Let's go ahead and pick this up though,
Speaker 3: with Frank Smith, who touched on Tyreek Hill and the
Speaker 3: impact that he's had in this Dolphins offense, who, by
Speaker 3: the way, is your AFC Offensive Player of the Month.
Speaker 3: He's the second Dolphin to win the award this year,
Speaker 3: Tua back in September. So after thirty years between Scott
Speaker 3: Mitchell and Tua hoisting the award for Miami, Miami had
Speaker 3: a whole month off before getting the award again. Frank
Speaker 3: Smith asked about Tyreek Hill's impact on the offense and
Speaker 3: today's press conference here is the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Oc his work ethic and how competitive he is. He's
Speaker 1: just every day's commitment towards maximizing his time and just
Speaker 1: being the best player and the best he can be.
Speaker 1: So seeing him in all those years in division and
Speaker 1: just you know, really hoping he wasn't going to have
Speaker 1: a day, it's just awesome to be on the same
Speaker 1: side of the ball for him for the last two years.
Speaker 3: How about your quarterback, Frank, What does Tua does that
Speaker 3: makes him so special? And there was a great chart
Speaker 3: that came out on Thursday morning over here in the
Speaker 3: States where somebody said, oh, so surprised to see two
Speaker 3: was one of the top quarterbacks after his first read.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, it's because you have narratives that you
Speaker 3: want to portray and you're just wrong about the quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and hear from Frank Smith on what
Speaker 3: makes this quarterback one of the best in the National
Speaker 3: Football League.
Speaker 1: The way he sees the game is you know, it's
Speaker 1: really you know, one of his gifts. So I think
Speaker 1: ultimately is he's grown within the system and within what
Speaker 1: we're trying to do here with everyone. I don't you know,
Speaker 1: you just see him really just taking things in. His
Speaker 1: understanding and his communication, everything just keeps growing and growing
Speaker 1: and growing. So ultimately, it's like, you know, the challenges,
Speaker 1: you know each week you know, trying to really improve
Speaker 1: uproblem what you did last week. And I mean between
Speaker 1: whether it's tour the whole, you know, composite of the
Speaker 1: whole offense. I mean, that's just an approach that everyone has.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's great when your quarterback has that
Speaker 1: mindset of every day to attack and make the.
Speaker 2: Best of it.
Speaker 3: Two more here for the Dolphins OC First, the Chiefs defense.
Speaker 3: What makes them so productive as they've found their way
Speaker 3: into being a top ten unit this year, it.
Speaker 1: Seems they're playing very well together. You know, ultimately the
Speaker 1: last couple of years there, they've had a lot of success.
Speaker 1: You know, the you know, the players they got, they
Speaker 1: seem to have a very good understanding of the system,
Speaker 1: communicating together, working together real well. So it could be
Speaker 1: a tough challenge for us this Sunday, and we're really
Speaker 1: looking forward to it.
Speaker 3: And we'll go ahead and close up with that comment
Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier about going to Germany and the atmosphere
Speaker 3: he expects on Sunday.
Speaker 4: Here's Frank Smith.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean doing two London games, the
Speaker 1: atmosphere is fantastic. So here with being the first game
Speaker 1: of Frankfurt Magic, it's going to be fent to be
Speaker 1: very much similar to a playoff game in America, So
Speaker 1: looking forward to the energy and just seeing what it's
Speaker 1: going to be like. But there's playing in these games
Speaker 1: has really been an awesome experience for all of us
Speaker 1: been able to be a part of it. So we're
Speaker 1: really looking forward to it and enjoying it.
Speaker 3: Vic Fangio was asked two questions that I thought were
Speaker 3: worth putting in the podcast. One, how do you stop
Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey And how do you stop Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4: I'm going to run those back to back for y'all.
Speaker 5: Right here.
Speaker 6: He lines up all over the place, so occasionally that
Speaker 6: could happen with him and Jalen. He's tough, you know,
Speaker 6: he's a great tight end. He runs really good routes,
Speaker 6: him in the quarterback, have great karma together, you know,
Speaker 6: especially as plays extend, and he's tough to you know,
Speaker 6: stop totally there. He's caught over a hundred balls how
Speaker 6: many years in a row, so really nobody's figured that out.
Speaker 4: And Mahomes, you know.
Speaker 6: Just trying to keep him from having a unbelievable game,
Speaker 6: you know, he's always played well, you know, and try
Speaker 6: and hopefully limit the improvised plays, you know, where he
Speaker 6: starts scrambling around making great throws on the run, guys
Speaker 6: getting open him pulling the ball down and running it
Speaker 6: himself for critical first downs. You know, he's he's really tough.
Speaker 6: You know, you got to defend the play they call
Speaker 6: in the huddle, which is hard enough, and then you
Speaker 6: have to defend the play that he creates after the
Speaker 6: first one breaks down.
Speaker 3: A little bit. Every week I do these picks, and
Speaker 3: I cut the primetime music to go along with the picks.
Speaker 3: I always just record the audio first, a rip it,
Speaker 3: I should say, and then I kind of try to
Speaker 3: pair it up to the voice recording I do, and
Speaker 3: so if it doesn't match, I apologize. And last week
Speaker 3: I was sick and I forgot to add the music,
Speaker 3: and so I think I called for music and then
Speaker 3: didn't play it. So you know, sometimes this one man operation,
Speaker 3: some things fall through the cracks.
Speaker 4: But I digress.
Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and continue here with the Week nine
Speaker 3: NFL picks. Go ahead and cue the music right there
Speaker 3: market at seven seventy five on my bars on garage band.
Speaker 4: You guys won't record on garage band?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 3: And I am sure huh. So I was trying to
Speaker 3: hit seventy two percent this year to reflect the nineteen
Speaker 3: seventy two Miami Dolphins who went seventeen to zero. But
Speaker 3: we have fallen well short of that goal at eighty
Speaker 3: three and thirty nine with sixty eight percent of the picks. Right,
Speaker 3: the seven win weeks will do that last week eleven
Speaker 3: and five. You want to be twelve and four on
Speaker 3: those sixteen game weeks. This week we have how many
Speaker 3: buys do we have this week? Doing some live research
Speaker 3: here on the Drive Time podcast. Four buys That means
Speaker 3: games minus for deams, means for dean games. So a
Speaker 3: chance to get over ninety wins here with a seven
Speaker 3: win week, we don't want that. We got to go
Speaker 3: ten and four's that's the goal here. So let's go
Speaker 3: ahead and start tonight now. Cue the music at Bar
Speaker 3: number eight hundred tonight Thursday Night football. I choose to
Speaker 3: not buy into a rookie quarterback after their first night
Speaker 3: breakout performance to follow it up, and even though I
Speaker 3: think the Steelers are like you want to talk about
Speaker 3: the word fraud, like I don't believe in that so much.
Speaker 4: But the Steelers at four and three.
Speaker 3: And then after I pick them here to go five
Speaker 3: and three. You want to talk fraud, that's a fraud.
Speaker 3: I don't know how that team has won that many games,
Speaker 3: but I'm taking them tonight to get to five and three.
Speaker 3: At the midway point on Sunday morning, you already know
Speaker 3: I'm taking the dolph and over the Chiefs. I do
Speaker 3: hope we don't have to see two backup guards, though
Speaker 3: hopefully Rob Hunt can get out there on Friday's practice
Speaker 3: and be good to go for Sunday.
Speaker 4: But right now not looking great.
Speaker 3: Take me Falcons over the Vikings. There are a lot
Speaker 3: of teams in the league right now that have quarterbacks
Speaker 3: that I just like I say, cannot play.
Speaker 4: I do not believe in the Vikings ability to win
Speaker 4: with Jaron Hall.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe Josh Dobbs gives them some hope and some
Speaker 3: of these bad teams down the stretch. But the Falcons
Speaker 3: with Taylor Heineke was a good move. I still don't
Speaker 3: love the quarterback position there in general.
Speaker 4: That was to me, the biggest what's that I'm looking
Speaker 4: for here? That was the biggest like what are you doing?
Speaker 3: Of the entire Austagon was them in Washington not getting
Speaker 3: better quarterbacks because I thought Washington and Atlanta bullp had
Speaker 3: good rosters, but they went into the year with Sam
Speaker 3: Hallen as a rigorous number one is unchallenged.
Speaker 4: Big mistake.
Speaker 3: So give me the Falcons there, Give me the Saints
Speaker 3: over the Bears. Talk about a team that can't win
Speaker 3: because the quarterback can't.
Speaker 4: Play, well, that's the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 3: Give me the Rams over the Packers. And unless there's
Speaker 3: no Matt Stafford, then I flipped that. I'm pretty excited
Speaker 3: about my quarterback track record. But Jordan Love, I will
Speaker 3: say the Packers offense is like very prehistoric, which is
Speaker 3: a bad sign for Matt Laflirt. And so I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna say that Jordan Love cannot play. I think that
Speaker 3: he can play, but right now we just can't in
Speaker 3: this offense. So unless Matt Stafford sits out, I'm taking
Speaker 3: the Rams. But if he does sit out and taking
Speaker 3: the Packers Patriots over Washington, I think things are about
Speaker 3: to get very ugly in the nation's capital. After trading
Speaker 3: away two of their best players, and Jonathan Allen was
Speaker 3: already pissed off about losing games before he might be
Speaker 3: just great shot things down over there. I wouldn't say
Speaker 3: that he would quit on his team, but I can
Speaker 3: see him being like, f this stuff. Give me the
Speaker 3: Ravens over the Seahawks in a game that hopefully goes
Speaker 3: the opposite way. But Seattle traveling east against what I
Speaker 3: think is a very very good Baltimore team. Give me
Speaker 3: Lamar and the team in purple.
Speaker 4: Texans over Bucks. I was very conflicted here.
Speaker 3: But ultimately I think Baker Mayfield has worn out his
Speaker 3: welcome already watching that game on Thursday night when he
Speaker 3: spelled on clean pockets. The minute quarterbacks start bailing on
Speaker 3: clean pockets, that's when Travis starts to bail on said quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: C J.
Speaker 4: Stroud does not become He's a lead in the pond.
Speaker 3: Drive day.
Speaker 4: Maybe the Texans over the Bucks.
Speaker 3: Give me the Browns over the Cardinals. Hey, quarterbacks who
Speaker 3: can't play Clayton tune cool man, you're gonna go to
Speaker 3: Cleveland and that crappy weather against that great defense.
Speaker 4: I was really trying to pick Arizona here, but they
Speaker 4: don't want to win, so we'll go ahead and get
Speaker 4: the Browns the dub.
Speaker 3: Give me the Colts over the Panthers, you know, cool
Speaker 3: to get their first win last week for Bryce Young
Speaker 3: and Frank Reich, But I think they're gonna runt gotten
Speaker 3: to benche in this one and go back to the
Speaker 3: losing ways. Giants over the Raiders. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 3: picking the Raiders the rest of the way.
Speaker 4: Think you can see why. Eagles over the Cowboys. I
Speaker 4: would like a redaction on my Super.
Speaker 5: Bowl pick in the NFC.
Speaker 2: I picked the.
Speaker 3: Cowboys to beat the Eagles in the NFC Championship Game
Speaker 3: and that was stupid. Give me the Bengals over the
Speaker 3: Bills on Sunday Night football. Can you guys imagine a
Speaker 3: world where we win on Sunday morning and the Bills
Speaker 3: lose on Sunday night? Can you imagine that over the
Speaker 3: Chiefs and over the Bengals? Who, buddy, that would be
Speaker 3: nice for us? And then Monday Night. Very conflicted here
Speaker 3: because I think the Jets can really put it too
Speaker 3: quarterback who doesn't see the field very well and Justin Herbert.
Speaker 3: But I think that the Jets quarterback is in that
Speaker 3: same category as Clayton Tune as well as Jaron Hall.
Speaker 4: So give me the Chargers on the road on Monday
Speaker 4: Night football.
Speaker 3: All right, that's your podcast. We're gonna go ahead and
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