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Speaker 1: You were tuned about Drive on your twenty four to

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Speaker 1: seven home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation, should how we do it? Well,

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Speaker 2: that's good us too.

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Speaker 3: Our number two final hour of the week here on

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Speaker 3: the Drive as we get ready for Stillars Bears at

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Speaker 3: Soldier Field in Chicago, a place the Steelers have won

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Speaker 3: just once since the nineteen thirties. Yes, it's not like

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Speaker 3: they play there all the time, only about once every

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Speaker 3: eight years, but still a historic matchup. A lot of

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Speaker 3: fun storylines in this one, Yeah, there are, And I

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Speaker 3: think just in general, it's it's always exciting to see

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Speaker 3: these teams that you only get to play every few years,

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Speaker 3: particularly when it's you know, one that is on the

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Speaker 3: rise and moving in the right direction like Chicago is

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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 4: I think you're excited to go, Yeah, see the place

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Speaker 4: and see the city and absolutely game lineup or something

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Speaker 4: to Yeah, may or may.

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Speaker 3: Not be going to the Chicago Bulls game tomorrow night,

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Speaker 3: maybe with a group of people that includes one of

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Speaker 3: the guests that we just had on the show in

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Speaker 3: the in the in the previous in fact, our Queen of.

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Speaker 2: The sideline might have been the one who procured.

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Speaker 3: The tickets for everybody as well. So yeah, I'm looking

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Speaker 3: forward to that. And my dad's from Chicago.

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Speaker 4: I've been like two NBA games my life.

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Speaker 2: I love going.

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Speaker 3: It is, you know the way you hear people talk

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Speaker 3: about like I don't know Didley squad about hockey, but

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Speaker 3: I go to a game and it's a blast, right

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Speaker 3: like that NBA For me, I don't really a whoa.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like, I know the Oklahoma City Thunder won

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Speaker 3: the NBA championship last year, Like I'm not completely ignorant

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Speaker 3: to the league, but I barely.

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Speaker 2: I watch a little bit in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: But every year. I always have to ask my friends

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Speaker 4: every year, like who's good again? Good? What teams this

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Speaker 4: guy on?

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Speaker 3: Like yeah, but I every time I've gone to an

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Speaker 3: NBA game, I enjoy myself. Like my dad and I

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Speaker 3: used to go watch the Bulls play in Cleveland every

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Speaker 3: once in a while when I was growing up.

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Speaker 2: I lived in Philadelphia for three years.

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Speaker 4: My wife.

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Speaker 3: My wife's a pretty big basketball and Sixers fans, so

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Speaker 3: we would go to two or three Sixers games a

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Speaker 3: year those those years.

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Speaker 2: Matt, the way those dudes get up and down the

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Speaker 2: court and jump.

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Speaker 4: It's unbelievable, itevable it is. It's even going to a

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Speaker 4: college game a big time, it's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Wow, you got to get to a Kentucky game at

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Speaker 2: some point.

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Speaker 4: Athletic ability, oh.

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Speaker 2: My goodness is it's impressive.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, little little Chicago Bears, and I think they

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Speaker 3: got Chicago Bears, Chicago Bulls part of me against the

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Speaker 3: Phoenix Suns. I believe it is tomorrow night at the

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Speaker 3: house that Michael Jordan built. Yeah, it's all happening this

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Speaker 4: Matt, I want to quite the same. I throw one

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Speaker 4: thing out there that's pretty cool is that that year

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Speaker 4: that I was director of football offs with Akron, the

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Speaker 4: Saint Vincent Saint Mary team is right there. Yeah, where

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Speaker 4: Lebron where Lebron the year he was coming out the

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Speaker 4: high school program and a lot of Lebron's friends went

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Speaker 4: to Akron went that. Yeah, they didn't go straight to

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Speaker 4: the NBA and be the first overall pick, but they

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Speaker 4: ZIP game as like a seventeen eighteen year old. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, like we offered him a scholarship.

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Speaker 2: I could use this guy tight end right now.

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Speaker 4: We offered when I was a pit the year before,

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Speaker 4: we offered him scholarship to play wide out. I'll mean

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Speaker 4: probably threw that in the trash, but I mean he

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Speaker 4: was there all the time. It'd be like that guy's

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Speaker 4: going to be the first pick in the draft.

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Speaker 2: See, I could definitely see it.

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Speaker 4: Be a nice car.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure. Wasn't he driving a Hummer when he was

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Speaker 2: like sixteen?

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Speaker 2: I remember that being a big story.

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Speaker 4: One day, Sports Illustrated actually did an article about Lebron

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Speaker 4: J D. Brookhard, was our wide receiver coach at Pitt.

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Speaker 4: So both of us were quoted because we both watched

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Speaker 4: them at Saint Vincent Saint Mary. That's pretty cool just

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Speaker 4: going up. He didn't want to. I mean, like he

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Speaker 2: Some poor five foot kid.

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Speaker 3: Who's repeatedly he's going to be in business school in

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Speaker 4: A couple months, and he didn't have like the shoulders.

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Speaker 4: Then I mean like he was a lot I mean hill,

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Speaker 4: but he could go forget it.

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Speaker 2: He looked like he didn't belong And I mean that

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Speaker 2: in a good way and huge way.

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Speaker 4: Right. I wonder if he did this full time, but

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Speaker 4: like he wasn't going over the middle and like blocking

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Speaker 2: It's hilarious, Matt.

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Speaker 3: I want to pick your brain a little bit here

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Speaker 3: about some of the biggest matchups to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 3: Of course, Sunday one o'clock at Soldier Field between the

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Speaker 3: Bears and the Steelers. Just a little exercise that we

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Speaker 3: do here every Friday, simply named five Star Friday.

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Speaker 4: We're humbled and excited to be in these five star matchups.

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Speaker 4: Five star matchup.

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Speaker 1: Somebody leaving here with the loves not gonna.

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Speaker 4: Be a all right, Matt.

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Speaker 2: Steelers defense, Bears offense.

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Speaker 3: We know the names, But where does it start, specifically

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Speaker 3: for the Steelers on that side of the ball. Does

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Speaker 3: it begin with limiting DeAndre Swift in the run game?

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Speaker 3: Does it begin with silencing a Donsa and some of

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Speaker 3: these talented pass catchers. What are some matchups that you're

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Speaker 3: really circling, really looking for as it relates to Steelers

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Speaker 4: The short of it, and this is on both sides

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Speaker 4: of the ball, and we already kind of talked about

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Speaker 4: it is who runs the ball better and turnovers, so

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Speaker 4: let's just get them out of way. Yeah, but these

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Speaker 4: teams are so good at creating turnovers, so turnover dependent.

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Speaker 4: I I think that is massive in this game. I

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Speaker 4: love it Missy throughout the special teams and Nugget too.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that their special teams coach learned from Danny

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Speaker 4: because I think some of that hidden yard is stuff

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Speaker 4: a real handful to deal with. And boy, Merrill Hodge

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Speaker 2: Great kind of like the hammer that we've talked about

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're getting more out of Swift than anybody

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Speaker 4: wonder kind of like the Colts are they gonna say, Darnell,

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Speaker 4: you're playing so well at right tackle. We're gonna go

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Speaker 4: help lefty here and leave you with what, which is

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Speaker 4: kind of what Colts did. And it's a gutsy move

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Speaker 4: if right can handle him reasonably well, you know, like

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Speaker 4: once or twice, and I'm sure they'll help him some.

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Speaker 4: And they they play a lot of bigger people. There'll

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Speaker 4: I'm just curious how they how they help and deploy

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Speaker 4: their offensive tackles because the right side tackle is way

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Speaker 4: better on the left side. The interior is really good.

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Speaker 4: Right tackle's great, left tackle's bad. You know, at least

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Speaker 4: haven't brought that up yet this week.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's I'm glad you did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because we that's that's the position that you want

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Speaker 3: this Steelers front to put opposition in. Yeah, yeah, that

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Speaker 3: you have to decide where you're gonna kind of pick

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Speaker 4: And even if Heigsmith doesn't play, but still her big

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Speaker 3: It would make sense if you're thinking, okay, like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: wrecking games, has that that impact that has become his

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Speaker 4: But were ready for that?

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Speaker 3: But we and maybe it's maybe you kind of want

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Speaker 3: got the Packers coming up twice, We've got the Eagles

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Speaker 3: some really good defensive front. It's some really good pass

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Speaker 3: rushers coming up. Teams, big time test here for Darnell. Right,

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Speaker 3: let's see how he responds and if that's something that

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Speaker 4: Or maybe you start doing it and if he struggles,

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Speaker 4: especially in like long down in distance, how they handle that.

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Speaker 4: I would think in the run game, you're gonna you're

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Speaker 4: herbig for sure, Yes, for sure, Yes, even Heismith. But

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Speaker 4: still I'm more in the protection situation here.

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Speaker 3: That makes a lot of sense. I'm glad you brought

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Speaker 3: that to the forefront. Uh, talk to me about the

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Speaker 3: talented eligibles Rome, Yeah, Luther burd and the two tight

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Is how's the game plan look compared to what we

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Speaker 3: saw last week again and what they did? More zone,

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Speaker 3: more flooding those short intermediate areas like they did against

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Speaker 3: the Bengals. Is that maybe the kind of the game

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Speaker 3: plan the blueprint once again, or you.

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Speaker 4: Lean that way? I think I think too high safeties

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Speaker 4: is kind of here to stay, and especially because these

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Speaker 2: Not at all they want to take shots.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they play the opposite of how Flacco rip them

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Speaker 4: up the first time around. They played the opposite of

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Speaker 4: how the Steelers play on offense. So I think you

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Speaker 4: did you want to take away the deep balls and

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Speaker 4: that kind of stuff and probably play more zone because

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Speaker 4: as we mentioned, Caleb's a much more dangerous obviously than Flacco.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you have to worry about him. He's a

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Speaker 4: dangerous runner. So I don't think you want to turn

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Speaker 4: your back to him a ton, And if so, you

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Speaker 4: might have some kind of spy situation or lurk defender

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Speaker 4: in that area. But I don't have a great plan

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Speaker 4: other than that. But I can tell you how they

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Speaker 4: use their guys because Douneesay is the one. Yes, But

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Speaker 4: like if you look at his numbers, he's had some

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Speaker 4: mean he had I think the game they put the

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Speaker 4: most points the Cincinnati gave, he had zero catches. Like

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Speaker 4: Yes, where Warren was at least as productive, but they

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Speaker 4: It's a deep and second round. Yeah, it takes both

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Speaker 4: And they know how to use them, spinning the matt And.

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Speaker 4: And it was good against the Bengals. But that's the

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Speaker 4: And it's not nearly as stark because their defense isn't

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Speaker 3: And man that the absence of those three linebackers is

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Speaker 4: Here's a real quick, nerdy nugget too. Their center Drew.

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Speaker 2: It's a five star matchup because we're in the.

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Speaker 1: Your tune is about Drive on your twenty four to

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Speaker 2: Time to go around the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Here, as myself and coach Tomalind would say, the road

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Speaker 3: They stay alive, uh if you felt, you know, some

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Speaker 2: That was a weird one for Buffalo last night.

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Speaker 2: That was a big one for them to win at

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, so what They've won six of their one,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if the math will work out for if.

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Speaker 2: least going to make a wild card.

443
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Speaker 4: I mean I think probably two of them go, but

444
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:15,479
Speaker 4: but two could definitely.

445
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 2: One's certainly going to miss and it wouldn't surprise me

446
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 2: if another one did.

447
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 4: I mean, all three could go, but I mean there's

448
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,120
Speaker 4: a chance all four missed. You know what I mean,

449
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 4: Like by you, I mean just there's Baltimore's trending the

450
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 4: right way.

451
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,119
Speaker 2: But the other team weird year in the AFC.

452
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, those teams don't have that many wins.

453
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 3: Weird year in the AFC. Just win the division Steelers

454
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 3: and host a playoff game and let's go from there.

455
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 4: M M. Mahomes come to town, New.

456
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 3: England is in Cincinnati, matt As seven point favorites, looking

457
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 3: to continue what are they on like an eight game

458
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 3: winning streak. I think it is the Patriots eight or

459
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 3: nine game winning streak in Cincinnati.

460
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 2: Seven point favorites.

461
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 4: I think I'll take the points, or I'll think I'll

462
00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 4: take the Patriots lay the points.

463
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 2: I think this might be the week that it finally

464
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 2: all comes undone for Cincinnati.

465
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 4: Is there any Borough news that you heard of. I

466
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 4: haven't seen any.

467
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 2: It looks like there's a they're saying there's a chance

468
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 2: he could play, but it's more likely still a week away.

469
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Speaker 4: They play Thanksgiving Day.

470
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Speaker 3: I think they play Thanksgiving Day, Yes, so it's a

471
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 3: short week then, and no Chase obviously who suspended defense

472
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 3: is still banged up and bad.

473
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 4: I just that's the thing is, I don't know that

474
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 4: there's a lot of I give.

475
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 2: Them a little credit for kind of holding the line

476
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 2: for a while, but it feels.

477
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 4: Like this could be not gonna be held much longer.

478
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

479
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 3: Seven is a lot chunky. Yeah, a road team, but

480
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,239
Speaker 3: I think I'll lay the points with the Patriots as well.

481
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 3: That's one that I'd try and tease down to five

482
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 3: and a half something like that.

483
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 4: But there's some spreads, there's some potential blow.

484
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 3: I was gonna say this, Like last week there was

485
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 3: not many bait. I think there was only one, maybe

486
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 3: two games that were more than a touchdown.

487
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 4: This week there's a lot Like if you're a casual fan,

488
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 4: I think there's like three or four games to concentrate on,

489
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 4: and others are.

490
00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,400
Speaker 3: Yes, like New York at Detroit where the Lion twelve

491
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 3: and a half point favorites at home. Matt, what do

492
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 3: Dan Campbell's Detroit Lions do against bad teams.

493
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 4: Especially after getting embarrassed and beat up at home?

494
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 3: I think I'd lay fourteen and a half yere with Detroit.

495
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 3: I certainly will twelve and a half.

496
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 4: And what most say sticks with me. You know, you

497
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 4: should always take the double digits, and I think there's

498
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 4: a lot to be said for that. And he knows

499
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 4: the stuff and he played in the league. But sometimes

500
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 4: the Lions are a vengeful group.

501
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 2: They're the one team that you would trust most, right

502
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 2: with a spread this large?

503
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, like they crushed some teams.

504
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 3: Green Bay at home at Lambeau against Minnesota, one of

505
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 3: the classic rivalries in the NFL. There one o'clock game

506
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 3: on Sunday, Green Bay. They're kind of needing to keep

507
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 3: pace as well. Yeah, six point favorites at home against

508
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 3: the Vikings.

509
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 2: Can the Vikings. It's the right number, big one for

510
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 2: Minnesota to stay alive too.

511
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 4: In the big picture of things, I mean, the craft

512
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 4: injury and they lost a really good center has made

513
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 4: the Packers very uneven. But McCarthy's playing really poorly right

514
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 4: now for bikes.

515
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: Yes, they've just got nothing at quarterback.

516
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't feel strong about it. I would not

517
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 4: put money onto either way, but I guess i'd take

518
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 4: the home team.

519
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 2: I'll lay the points at the Green Bay. It's another

520
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: one I wish was four and a half instead of six.

521
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 2: But I still think the Packers they at some point

522
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 2: they've got to start really putting it together, I would think.

523
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 4: I think they're a well coached team with a lot

524
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 4: of talent.

525
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 3: One of the biggest spreads of the weekend. Matt in

526
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 3: fact tied for the biggest spread of the weekend in

527
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 3: Music City. The Titans host the Seattle Seahawks, where Seattle

528
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 3: is a thirteen and a half point favorite despite being

529
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 3: on the road.

530
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 4: I'll take the points, I think in this one.

531
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 2: I'll take you.

532
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 4: That's a lot Zabel's hurt, and the interior, their ow

533
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 4: line isn't great, and Sweat and Simmons are actually like

534
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 4: the only good thing that the Titans do. And I

535
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 4: get to see Seattle winning, and then I think am

536
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 4: Ward throws a lay touchdown and you know they're not

537
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 4: going to give off.

538
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 3: Seattle's also in a big stretch of like a lot

539
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 3: of important NFC games here. Yeah, yeah, if they're not

540
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 3: at the if they're at a beep lost level on

541
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 3: Sunday and they still win by ten, fine, business trip,

542
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 3: business trip to Tennessee. We're not going to light the

543
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 3: world on fire, but We'll go out there and take

544
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 3: care of business.

545
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 4: Yep.

546
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 2: But you're right, maybe a late touchdown for the Titans

547
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: or just a lot of points, a lot of points.

548
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 3: I am going to take the plus thirteen and a

549
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 3: half with Tennessee on that one Arrowhead stadium and one

550
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 3: of the perhaps the game game. This is one of

551
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 3: those ones if you're a there's a couple games this

552
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 3: weekend that you know, if you're a neutral, I think

553
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 3: you're really into Pittsburgh Chicago. I think you're really into

554
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay and La the Rams versus the Bucks. This

555
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 3: is another one.

556
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 4: This is probably the headline of the weekend.

557
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 3: Big for Indianapolis, not necessarily in their playoff case, but

558
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 3: their first round by number one overall.

559
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 4: And they're just overall legitimacy, yes, you know.

560
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: And for Kansas City, you're five and five, man five

561
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 2: and six.

562
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 4: Right, another AFC loss, Chiefs three.

563
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 2: And a half point favorites at home against the Colts.

564
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 4: So what would this line be an Indie.

565
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 2: Kansas City minus one? Yeah, Kansas City minus.

566
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 4: Kansas City is better than the Colts. I mean, I

567
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 4: get that there's more to games than just who's better

568
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 4: on paper, et cetera.

569
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: Just like the third time in the last three four

570
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 2: weeks that we've the third time in the last four

571
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 2: weeks we've said, well, we're gonna find out about the

572
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: Chiefs this weekend.

573
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 4: That's what I said on my other podcast I was

574
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 4: picking games. It's like, I'm sick of doing it every week, Like, Oh,

575
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 4: they'll get it figured out. They're the Chiefs and they

576
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 4: could win this game by twenty five, and I would

577
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 4: not be shocked.

578
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 2: They could win the next seven in a row right

579
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 2: to finish the best five. It wouldn't shot.

580
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 4: One number two in the power ranks when the playoffs

581
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,719
Speaker 4: coming round. That absolutely could happen. But I'll take the points.

582
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 4: I mean, Indie's coming off of bye it's healthy.

583
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: Forgot about that.

584
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 4: I wouldn't touch it.

585
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 2: But I'm with you.

586
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 3: And if it's two and a half, I'd feel a

587
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 3: lot better about Kansas City than three and a half.

588
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 2: I think I'll I think I'm with you. I think

589
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: I'll take the points.

590
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 3: Listen, I've been the one that's been kind of crushing

591
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 3: the Chiefs the last week or two, so I gotta

592
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 3: stick with my stick by my guns here.

593
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 4: Being the option, I'm like, oh, they're about to turn around,

594
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 4: but then they don't give me.

595
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 3: Indy plus three and a half tied for the biggest

596
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: spread of the weekend with that Titan Seattle game that

597
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 3: we just mentioned. Is the Jets traveling to Baltimore or

598
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 3: the Ravens are thirteen and a half point favorites. I

599
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 3: think I'm taking the points Ravens win, But I don't know, man.

600
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 3: The Jets are another organization that's shown some life.

601
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 4: They weren't horrible after trading everybody away.

602
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 2: They're also coming off of they played last Thursday, right,

603
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: so they've got a little bit lost.

604
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 4: They lost the Patriots, yeah.

605
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 2: Last Thursday, so they've got that ten day preparation time

606
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 2: as well.

607
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 4: Give any the birdies, but I don't feel great about it.

608
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 4: That's a lot of points, man, It's a lot. I

609
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 4: don't get challenge in the game. But that's not the question.

610
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: It could be another one of those. Baltimore's up thirteen

611
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: seventeen the entire way, and the Jets score late touchdown

612
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: and we're getting Tyrod Taylor, are getting Tyrod Taylor.

613
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 4: That might be better for our Yeah, I think I'm

614
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 4: taking I think I.

615
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: Just don't believe in Baltimore's ability to blow anybody out.

616
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 4: Really, at this point, they're really that team either. But

617
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take them anyway, reluctantly.

618
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 3: Matt in one of these games that they should have

619
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 3: these teams play at the end of the year to

620
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 3: decide who gets the number one overall pick. In Las

621
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 3: Vegas in the Entertainment Capital, I'd never remember is that

622
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 3: La or is that Vegas? Regardless?

623
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: In Las Vegas, the Brown's face the Raiders in what

624
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 2: is shocker by far, I mean by a good nine

625
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: points eight points the lowest over under.

626
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 4: Of the week.

627
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Vegas a four point favorite at home against the Browns.

628
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 4: I don't think they should be a four of favor

629
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 4: or anyone. They're playing terrible right now.

630
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: They are, but I don't know. I think the Browns

631
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: should be favored over anymore.

632
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 4: I'm taking Cleveland though. Yeah, I'm not a Sanders believer,

633
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 4: but he's going to complete more than one out of

634
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 4: four passes. I think the Raiders might be the worst em.

635
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: And they might.

636
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett might set the he might get the twenty

637
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 4: sacks in this game. I mean, their defense is clearly

638
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 4: the best unit.

639
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: Well in twenty twenty five, my boy Gino loves to

640
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: take sacks.

641
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 4: He loves to take sacks, loves it. I don't like

642
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 4: whe the Raiders are at.

643
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: All, Like four points is a lot. Yeah, I mean

644
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: I should just take them.

645
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 4: I'm just taking the point, Just take the points. I

646
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 4: think they're equally bad teams and the defense for Cleveland

647
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 4: is the best unit.

648
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 3: But this might be a cop out. I'd stay away

649
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 3: from the line and I just take the under thirty

650
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 3: six and a half points.

651
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: Is this one feels like I.

652
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 4: Don't know enough about betting. But I mean, I know,

653
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 4: I'm not like reinventing the wheel here, but low over

654
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 4: unders take the points?

655
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 3: You know, Yes, you know, seventeen to ten final score

656
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 3: or something like that in the you know, Yeah, I'm

657
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 3: with you. I will take Cleveland plus four just because

658
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 3: that's a chunkier number for two bad teams. But I

659
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 3: would really go with the with the under thirty six

660
00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 3: and a half if I had had of me.

661
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 4: Thinks the Raiders should be thirty second in Power Rings.

662
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 4: They're miserable again.

663
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 3: Like we said out of their bye week, there was

664
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 3: at least some signs of life, but they've gone right

665
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 3: back to Yeah, it's rough to Monty Python, You'll be

666
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Speaker 3: stone cold dead in a moment in Arizona. Jacksonville looking

667
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Speaker 3: to continue to stay on the right path against the Cardinals.

668
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Speaker 3: They are three point favorites on the road at State

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Speaker 3: Farm Stadium.

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Speaker 4: I about a believer that Jackson will like figured things

671
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Speaker 4: out all of a sudden.

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Speaker 2: Same, but I think they're a much better team than

673
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Speaker 2: the Cardinals.

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Speaker 4: Cardinals are really banged, much better coached. But like Harrison,

675
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Speaker 4: I mean, they got issues. Are they ready to like

676
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Speaker 4: go cover spreads on the other coach?

677
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Speaker 3: I'd like this more if it was two and a

678
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Speaker 3: half as opposed to three. But I'm still gonna lay

679
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Speaker 3: the I'm still gonna yeah, lay the points with Jackson.

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Speaker 4: I'm with you. But it's made my least fair better

681
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Speaker 4: than we've mentioned in Matt.

682
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Speaker 3: What's an intriguing one? Not maybe quite to the extent

683
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Speaker 3: of Colt's chief Sir Rams Bucks, but Philadelphia in Dallas.

684
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Speaker 3: I'm really intrigued by this one huge rivalry. Right did

685
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 3: you see the video? Tyler pointed it out to me.

686
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: I was dying it was going viral. At a Philadelphia

687
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 3: elementary school this morning, they dressed up a bunch of

688
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 3: punching bags as Dallas Cowboys players really so like Dak

689
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 3: and CD lamb Quinn and Williams, and they had the

690
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 3: kids like doing a boxing class for gym class.

691
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: But they were beating up on the on Dak Prescott

692
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Speaker 2: and CD lamb.

693
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Speaker 4: Arry Philadelphia, Larry Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: The most Philly thing I've seen in a long time

695
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Speaker 3: since my in laws were last in town in Dallas

696
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 3: at Jerry World. Desperate one for the Cowboys, big for

697
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 3: Philly still in the sense of they want to get

698
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 3: that number one seed in the NFC, Philly three and

699
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 3: a half point favorites in Big d.

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Speaker 4: So I just said awful things about the Raiders and

701
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 4: the Dallas, and Dallas whipped up on them pretty good.

702
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 4: So I want to take that with a grain of

703
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 4: salt considering who Dallas just played. But I don't think

704
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 4: Dallas by any stretch is a Bengal level defense anymore.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

706
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,959
Speaker 4: I mean, quinnin look like a Grizzly Bear out there.

707
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 4: I mean, like block that guy. And they got a

708
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 4: lot of dudes back lane. Johnson is out, that's important.

709
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 4: Their offense is everyone A lot of all that bickering

710
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 4: that's always happening in Philadelphia is going on now. They

711
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,959
Speaker 4: don't throw the ball well, and I think the Eagles

712
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 4: d is as good as anyone's, but Houston's. Maybe Mitchell

713
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Speaker 4: is gonna be on pickings. It sounds like a lot

714
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Speaker 4: or lamb whatever. I expect a low scoring, tough, close games.

715
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Speaker 4: I'm taking points.

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Speaker 3: This is a tough one because there is part of

717
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Speaker 3: me that I feel like Philly is the Birds are

718
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: taken off to use a bad pun there, and what

719
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 3: happened for Dallas last week was a little bit of

720
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 3: fool's gold because the Raiders are so bad, like we

721
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 3: talked about. I know that game was in Vegas, but

722
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 3: it was eighty percent Cowboys fans. It was like a

723
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: suit and they jumped on them early and then it

724
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: was just snow effect downhill. I could see Philadelphia coming

725
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: out and putting the clamps on the Cowboys and grabbing

726
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 3: them by the collar, and hey, I know you've got

727
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 3: this great offense, but we're still the big dog. But

728
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 3: three and a half for a road game, for a

729
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 3: rivalry like this, this is another one I wouldn't want

730
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: to touch. I don't know, though, I think I'm leaning

731
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: towards laying the points for the with the Eagles.

732
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Speaker 4: I think it's like twenty eighteen. Yeah, I think it's tight,

733
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 4: neck and neck down the whole stretch. Offense hard to

734
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Speaker 4: come by.

735
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Speaker 2: I certainly think that that could be a case. I'm

736
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: just I'm gonna lead towards the Eagles a little bit

737
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: of fool's gold. With Dallas playing better last week, I'll

738
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: lay the three and a half with Philly A couple.

739
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 3: More here, Matt in New Orleans, Atlanta against the Saints.

740
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 3: This one, I think you could probably find a ticket

741
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 3: to get in for. Yeah, you know, you could bring

742
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 3: a soup can for the soup drive and they'll let

743
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 3: you in the stadium there at the super Dome, New

744
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 3: Orleans A two and a half point favorite at home.

745
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 4: So I could be so wrong on this. I think

746
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 4: the Saints win. People up in Pittsburgh area don't realize

747
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 4: that these two teams really hate each other. It just hasn't.

748
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: This is a good rivaly. This is an underrated NFL rivalry.

749
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 4: It just doesn't mean much. It's not like Ravens Steelers.

750
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 3: A lot of those NFC South rivalries are really under rated.

751
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 3: They're better than you think, but it's because the team

752
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 3: they're They're always like seven and nine right.

753
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 4: Bought a five beat AF five and eleven team, and

754
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 4: I think that's what this is. But it's in New

755
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 4: Orleans coming off of bye no penn X. I don't

756
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 4: think London's playing. I think that Atlanta is in a

757
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 4: really bad spot. And I think Kellen Moore is a

758
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 4: good coach. I'm gonna take the Saings to win.

759
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 2: I think so too. I think the Falcons, after showing

760
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: a little bit of life, are cooked now.

761
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 4: I think they're in a bad spot.

762
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 2: I think they're in a bad spots.

763
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 3: Cousins look terrible and hey, he could go out and

764
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 3: play well, wouldn't shot.

765
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 4: Sure, they're the more talented team. I think we know

766
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 4: that Bijon might run for two hundred.

767
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: I think Atlanta is another one of those can coon

768
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: on three type teams right now, where they're thinking about

769
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 2: January and there and their plans for the post season,

770
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: not their NFL postseason, but what they're going to do

771
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: post the season ending.

772
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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, I think the Rams just sit there going

773
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 4: keep losing games and you're excellent.

774
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 3: Yeah that's the other thing too, Like they're not. Man,

775
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 3: it's a rough spot for Atlanta right now. I'll lay

776
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: the two and a half with the Saints to win

777
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 3: a close one, you know, a ton of points by

778
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 3: three or four points.

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00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 4: Shock hasn't been bad. He is not.

780
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: That's your man, that's your boy.

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00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: Uh.

782
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 3: And I think he's got a good opportunity. Falcons defense

783
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 3: is better than what is better, but still some opportunity

784
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 3: for the Saints to make some place. And then finally

785
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 3: Sunday Night Football a good one. I'm hoping. I think

786
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 3: we'll be landed back in time for me to at

787
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 3: least catch most of the I might you know, might

788
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,479
Speaker 3: miss the first series or two in the first quarter.

789
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 3: But Sunday Night Football, the Rams against the Bucks, I

790
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 3: think a Super Bowl FA contender, yeah league right now

791
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 3: against against a really good team in the Bucks as well.

792
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 3: Rams are a seven point favorite at home.

793
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 4: It's a been too many points for me.

794
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: It is a cross coast you know game for the Bucks,

795
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 3: but it's a night game and that helps. I think

796
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 3: it's easier for the East Coast teams going west as

797
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: opposed to vice versa.

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00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 4: I saw it today. There's a chance Godwin plays. They've

799
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 4: been down a weapon.

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00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 3: I think I might take the points for the Bucks.

801
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 3: I think the Rams will win, but I think I'll

802
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 3: take a touchdown.

803
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will too. I think Tampa's well coached. They're

804
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 4: kind of struggling right now, going through a tough time,

805
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 4: but I think they can keep it within seven.

806
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: Matt, you want to know something crazy here, So I

807
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: always you know, when I pull up this schedule, they

808
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 2: always have like the stub Hub, you know, get your

809
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: tickets here.

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00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, tickets tickets as lowest and as you can imagine,

811
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,720
Speaker 3: you know, cheapest ones in the league are New Orleans

812
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 3: for the Atlanta game of Tennessee for the Titans game

813
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 3: brown and Raiders, although again the Raiders tickets never get

814
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 3: that cheap, just because it's a destination and people when

815
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 3: you're Cleveland, you see this Browns fans, you see this

816
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 3: come out, you know, back in the summer time and

817
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, let's go to Vegas for the weekend.

818
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 4: They might leave it halftime and go to the casinos, especially.

819
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 2: This time of year where it's still seventy degrees in Vegas.

820
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 3: And yeah, a lot of these you know, Northeast Corridor tillyests,

821
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 3: Midwest teams. Yeah, so uh, pretty expensive ticket in Kansas City,

822
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 3: as you can imagine, pretty expensive ticket in Green Bay.

823
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 3: As you can imagine, Matt by far like three times

824
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 3: as much as the next highest price. Most expensive get

825
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 3: in game is Steelers Bears. Really tickets as low as

826
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 3: that's the cheapest get in price four hundred and eight dollars.

827
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 3: Next highest around the league is lambeau Field, where you

828
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 3: can get in for about one hundred and seventy bucks.

829
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 4: Does that imply to you that there will be a

830
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 4: lot of Steeler fans there?

831
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: That implies to me that there will be a decent

832
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 2: amount of Steelers fans there.

833
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, and if you're going to go there, you'll

834
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 4: pay more than.

835
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: It's a Bears fan base that is starving for success

836
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 3: and is really jacked I think it's a combination of both.

837
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 4: They got to be so psyched about the Bears right now.

838
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 3: It's a it's a Steelers fan base that that Matt particularly,

839
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 3: and I've laid this out with you before. When the

840
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 3: Steelers go to places like this where they only travel

841
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: every few years, Steelers fans always show up.

842
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.

843
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 3: And then it's a fan base in Chicago that's been

844
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 3: waiting to get this jacked up about their team for

845
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 3: a long time.

846
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, they've been winning a lot of games.

847
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: They got a quarterback, right, So I think it's a combination.

848
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 4: That makes a ton of sense, that's why. And they're

849
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 4: both really good fan base, yes Bears fans.

850
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely so. Yeah, more than double the price of

851
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 3: the next lowest get in. I tell you what, I

852
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 3: hope you got your tickets already because they got a

853
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 3: lot more expensive over the last few weeks. As this

854
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 3: Bears team has everyone's attention there throughout Chicago and throughout that.

855
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 2: Fan base as well.

856
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: We'll talk about that game specific predictions and scores and

857
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 3: final thoughts before we get out of here. On the

858
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 3: other side, West Shuler, Matt Williamson, it's the on Steelers

859
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 3: Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

860
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Speaker 1: Your twos about drive on your twenty four to seven

861
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal, Steelers Nation Radio.

862
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 3: And here we go, final segment of the week, Steelers Bears,

863
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 3: A big one for both of these teams, both of

864
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 3: these organizations, both of these fan bases. Matt, one final

865
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 3: stat for you before we give some predictions and get

866
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 3: out of here. Career wins at Soldier Fields pretty high.

867
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: Kayleb Williams six, Aaron Rodgers twelve.

868
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 4: Wow.

869
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 3: Now, I realize it's only Caleb Williams sophomore season, but

870
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 3: it's just always startling when you see I bet you

871
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 3: other than Rex Grossman and Jay Cutler, Aaron Rodgers probably

872
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 3: has more wins there in the twenty first century than

873
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 3: any Bears quarterback, probably other than Grossman and Cutler.

874
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's probably number three. Is he more than Trubisky?

875
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 4: I probably they one year that they think they went

876
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 4: to the play did You're right?

877
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: Where they won double digit games?

878
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 4: But but still, what's that six wins at home?

879
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 2: You know?

880
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's still hard to get well, I mean impressive, Yeah,

881
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 4: it really is.

882
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: And I think Ben might still have the most uh

883
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: for the Browns.

884
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 4: I think he's second behind Mayfield.

885
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: Mayfield did finally pass. You're right, that sounded there was

886
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: a lot.

887
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 4: I mean, he went many many years as the winningest

888
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 4: quarterback in that building in Nuts.

889
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: Which is absolutely wild.

890
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 3: And you know what, that's probably we were talking about

891
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 3: the insane ticket prices now in the secondary market for

892
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 3: this game.

893
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: Let's the Aaron Rodgers factor is real in that too.

894
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 4: That's a good point.

895
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 2: A lot of people from that part of the country

896
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: that are Packers fans that were probably planning on going

897
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: down to see their Bolton. Make a weekend out of Chicago,

898
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 2: go see her.

899
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 4: Bear fans aren't real fond of Rogers.

900
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: Bears fans who want to go to this game and

901
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: scream and tell Aaron Rodgers how much they hate his guts.

902
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 3: Matt your first two and a half point favorites. This

903
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 3: I think has been the hardest game to pick all year.

904
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 4: I still don't know who. I've gone back and forth.

905
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: Vikings game was tough to pick because Minnesota was playing

906
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 3: really well at that point. The Steelers were still trying

907
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 3: to find some identity stuff on offense and defense.

908
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 4: I changed my mind when I got the double one.

909
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 3: You and I I was playing on picking the Vikings

910
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 3: and then just with this, the atmosphere there and the

911
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: crowd and the history and the moment went with the Steelers.

912
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: I thought the Colts game was a hard one to pick.

913
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: I thought the Chargers game was a hard one to pick.

914
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: This is difficult.

915
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 4: I think it's difficult too because turnovers are very unpredictable and.

916
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 2: It's such a huge party.

917
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 3: You tell me that one of these defenses, one of

918
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 3: these teams is plus three in the turnover margin, them

919
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 3: all day long, Pick them all day long. If it

920
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 3: ends up though that there's both teams take care of

921
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: the football, or maybe there's just one turnover in.

922
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 4: This game, maybe it doesn't come up.

923
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's lower scoring though.

924
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 3: The over under is forty five and a half, which

925
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 3: isn't a massive uber, but it's not a low number either.

926
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 3: But I keep coming back to something weird, something wonky,

927
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 3: like nineteen to seven or seventeen. Part of me nineteen

928
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 3: to seventeen for either side. I don't know who I'm

929
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 3: going to pick, but I think I think I might

930
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 3: be leaning towards Chicago a little bit. At least I

931
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 3: was all week until that injury report just came out

932
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 3: and how banged up their defense is No, nineteen seventeen Steelers.

933
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 4: Okay, screw it, that's what I'm going with. I'm going

934
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 4: twenty four to twenty three Bears.

935
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: Okay.

936
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 4: I just think Home a lot of momentum, a lot

937
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 4: of respect for their offense. But I think the Steelers

938
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 4: should move the ball and run the ball. And I

939
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 4: love that linebacker news. I mean, that's a position you

940
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,959
Speaker 4: don't like to be super weak at. Very few teams

941
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 4: are strong, but just not to be terrible at because

942
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 4: there's really no answer to protect them.

943
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: It's like the spin of your defense.

944
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 4: Right. Absolutely, So I don't feel good at all about

945
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 4: my pick, but I am taking the Bears to win

946
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 4: twenty four to twenty three.

947
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 3: I'll take Steelers nineteen seventeen. But I it might be

948
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 3: the least confident I've been in a pick all year.

949
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 4: It's definitely my least confident. Not that I've been picking

950
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 4: winners left and right, but when we pick them on Fridays,

951
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 4: that field the least.

952
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: There's just it's just tough to pinpoint Chicago at this point.

953
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah too, because they've won seven of their last

954
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: eight games, which is impossible to ignore.

955
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 2: But they're a younger, upstart team.

956
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 3: And when does the water find its level? Not even

957
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 3: the wind to Cinderella turn back into a pumpkin, but

958
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 3: just when does water find its level a little bit?

959
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 2: With them?

960
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 4: Can you give me a quick favor?

961
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: Sure?

962
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 4: And those seven of eight wins, who are they against?

963
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 4: Because it's it's a very weak group, but seven eight

964
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 4: against anyone?

965
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 3: Dallas, Las Vegas, Washington, New Orleans, Cincinnati, the Giants, and

966
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: the Vikings Wolf and they lost to Baltimore, Detroit, and Minnesota.

967
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: So they split with Minnesota.

968
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,479
Speaker 4: Baltimore and the Tree Detroit game they got blown out, right.

969
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 3: Correct, I mean they lost by two touchdowns to That's

970
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 3: that's I mean, yeah, the big yeah Arthur Motes anything

971
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 3: more than a touchdown as a blowout. In the NFL,

972
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 3: they got creamed by Detroit second week of the second

973
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 3: week of the season. Lost a close one to Minnesota

974
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 3: to open the year. Remember that that back and forth

975
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 3: was that the first.

976
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: Monday night game.

977
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 4: I want to say, sounds about right.

978
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 2: So, yeah, you're right.

979
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 4: If they haven't playing way better now than they were

980
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 4: the first.

981
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 3: They haven't the season, absolutely, but they have not beat

982
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 3: a team with the winning record. Steelers would be the

983
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 3: first one. Dallas looks like the Washington.

984
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 4: Washington win doesn't look good.

985
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 3: No, at the time, it looked okay because they still

986
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 3: had Jaydon Daniels and and I think the Cowboys win

987
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 3: is I mean, they blew out the Cowboys, so like

988
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 3: that's that's a that's a decent win.

989
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 4: It's still a really good Cowboy offense. Then the defense

990
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 4: was horrible then, but still.

991
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: Like this is one of those moments.

992
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: If this is Bears Nation, radio, Like I always like

993
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 3: to say, I think you feel like you're playing with

994
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 3: house money a little bit, Oh, no doubt, because you

995
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 3: got an easier schedule to start, you took advantage of it.

996
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 4: You're firm as an organization for the season, you're ahead

997
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 4: of schedule.

998
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 3: And and you I mean again, you've got other than

999
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 3: the Cleveland game in mid December. You've got the Steelers.

1000
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 3: Then you go to Philadelphia, then you go to Green Bay,

1001
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 3: you host the Packers, you host the Niners, you go

1002
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 3: to Detroit. I mean it's like, if you're a Bears fan,

1003
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 3: it's like, this is.

1004
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 4: What we want. Do you know, Oh yeah, we're very relevant.

1005
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 3: I don't want to I don't want to backdoor into

1006
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 3: the playoffs playing a bunch of bad teams. Like I

1007
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 3: want to see what we got against some real playoff caliber,

1008
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 3: super Bowl caliber opponents.

1009
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 2: And here you go, here's the beginning of it.

1010
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 4: I mean, like, if I was a Bears fan right now,

1011
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 4: I be like, Okay, now can we show that we

1012
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 4: can just stand in the ring, go toe to toe

1013
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 4: with the remaining of our schedule. Yeah, go five hundred,

1014
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 4: maybe even win one more than we lose. Not get embarrassed.

1015
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 4: In against the Eagles and teams like that, like I'm

1016
00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 4: feeling real good about where I'm at.

1017
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 3: Absolutely like to use the to use the gun the

1018
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 3: gunfighter analogy that Mike Tomlin used to use with Ben

1019
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 3: Roethlisberger all the time, Like you're gonna get shot, you know, Like,

1020
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: oh yeah, gunfighters get shot, but they also, you know,

1021
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 3: take out some targets along the way. You're gonna get

1022
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 3: shot in this final seven Chicago, but forward, but can

1023
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 3: you hit a couple of bulls eyes too?

1024
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 4: Sure? And then you you know, and can you get

1025
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 4: up after you get shot?

1026
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: House money exactly right? If you just get into the playoffs.

1027
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 3: It feels like a huge success with this young team

1028
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: and young offense and first year head coach. It's a

1029
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 3: big one for a lot of different reasons and gonna

1030
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 3: be a lot of fun there.

1031
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 4: Really shot a blowout either way.

1032
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 2: Same.

1033
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 4: I bet this comes down to a boz kick.

1034
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 2: Like we we said a last last few weeks.

1035
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 3: We set it before Green Bay, we said it before Indianapolis,

1036
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: Like if this is a comfortable win either way that

1037
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 3: we're talking about on Monday, it wouldn't shock us. It

1038
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 3: would shock me, you know, it wouldn't shock me. If

1039
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 3: the Steelers lost or beat the Packers by ten, wouldn't

1040
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 3: have shocked me at the Steelers lost or beat the

1041
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 3: Colts by ten this one, If this is more than

1042
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 3: a touchdown final score, I think I'll be shocked.

1043
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 4: Yeh one and last thing I wanted to throw out

1044
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 4: just before we leave them scroll my Twitter feed here.

1045
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 4: The stuff in the last two minutes is nuts from

1046
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 4: this team. And I don't think historic. It's historic. They

1047
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 4: have five wins that have come in the last two

1048
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,959
Speaker 4: minutes of the game already already, which is the most

1049
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 4: seven games to play. It's like the most in NFL history,

1050
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 4: and it's already it's not even Thanksgiving, you know, so

1051
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 4: like so many of their games come down to the

1052
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 4: last minute. I can't find it, but whatever, I know

1053
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 4: it's right in that neighborhood.

1054
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 3: And hey, we know that that's a strength historically of

1055
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 3: the Steelers under Mike Tomlin is playing close one score

1056
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 3: games another. But they have crazy games with the Bear,

1057
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 3: another game within the game storyline to keep an eye

1058
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 3: on once things get going.

1059
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: On Sunday, Matt fun Stuff. Enjoyed this week.

1060
00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 3: Thought we had a thought we had a good week

1061
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 3: of show here leading up to a big game. Big

1062
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 3: thanks to all of our guests this week. Big thanks

1063
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 3: to Missy Matthews for joining us today TV, mister Tyler

1064
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 3: V for being our video producer and statistician and resident helper,

1065
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 3: and for Matt Williamson. I'm West Shuler. Take care, everybody,

1066
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 3: you know the drill On Monday, win Loser Draw, We'll

1067
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 3: be back to break it all down with you right

1068
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:23,680
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1069
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1070
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