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Speaker 1: candidly that Fox broadcast on Saturday mornings takes a backseat

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Speaker 1: to nothing for me. I think it's really good and

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of substance to it. But man, when

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Speaker 1: you add Nick Saban to the mix, there is no

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Speaker 1: other Nick Saban in the space. Now. I was thinking

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Speaker 1: about this. Consider a nine year old kid right now,

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Speaker 1: if you're thirty five or forty five or fifty five,

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Speaker 1: you've grown up and you've known Nick Saban the head coach,

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Speaker 1: not only at Bama, but you knew him as the

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Speaker 1: Dolphins in LSU and Michigan State. So you've watched his

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Speaker 1: whole career. He's a head coach. He's a legend to you.

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Speaker 1: But if you're nine years old, I mean yeah, like

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Speaker 1: you can walk into you gum at the same time,

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Speaker 1: but you don't. You cannot possibly have the respect for

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Speaker 1: what that guy just did, as you know, full grown

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Speaker 1: adult version of you would. So a picture of a

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Speaker 1: nine year old kid. Nine year old kid came along

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Speaker 1: at the very tail end of Saban's career. What will

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban be to that kid when he's nineteen a

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Speaker 1: decade from now. Nick Saban's seventy two, he's eighty two,

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Speaker 1: a decade from now could very well still be doing

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Speaker 1: what he's about to be doing. You realize we're not

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Speaker 1: too far away from a young, young generation of people

450
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Speaker 1: knowing Nick Saban as a broadcaster, not as a coach.

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Speaker 1: They'll know that he coached, but they will have grown

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Speaker 1: up with him as a broadcaster. And that's going to

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Speaker 1: be a very, very uncomfortable time for some of you

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Speaker 1: who are in your mid to late twenties right now,

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Speaker 1: because it will be that moment when some nineteen year

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Speaker 1: old kid talks about Nick Saban as being that guy

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Speaker 1: on TV who talks for a living. That is the

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Speaker 1: first time in your life you will ever feel old.

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Speaker 1: And it's gonna suck, But I just want to prepare

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Speaker 1: you for it. Still a little ways away right now,

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Speaker 1: but I just want to prepare you for it. So

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban the college game day, it finally finally happened.

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Speaker 1: Academy Sports and Outdoors has done great business in Nashville

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Speaker 1: this past week, I guarantee you, because we had three days,

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Speaker 1: at least four days I think where it was above

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Speaker 1: tracked such things, and it was sunny wall to wall

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Speaker 1: sun outside and Academy Sports and Outdoors. It's like I

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Speaker 1: southern California right now, you do not believe that could

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Speaker 1: ever happen, because you guys have gotten a lifetime's worth

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Speaker 1: oscillation patterns. It's gonna turn for us eventually, and when

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Speaker 1: a nice chair to lounge in. Academy Sports and Outdoors

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Speaker 1: has that. And if you're ready to stock up for

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Speaker 1: Academy Sports and Outdoors or Academy dot Com is the

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Speaker 1: All right, let's move it along in the show. Oh

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Speaker 1: you know what I didn't even do. I didn't even

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Speaker 1: lip bomb up. And I have been told by dedicated

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Speaker 1: viewers of the show that when I have been putting

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Speaker 1: on the lip bomb recently, I have been accused of

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Speaker 1: making what are called butthole lips on air, which is

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Speaker 1: this right here. So we're not gonna do that anymore,

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Speaker 1: No more butthole lips or it's gonna it's gonna lazily

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Speaker 1: put all right, lips are moisturized, butthole lips? Can you

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Speaker 1: believe that? And you know what, if it's true, it's true, Jesse,

496
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Speaker 1: you should have told me long before anyone who watches

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Speaker 1: this show had to tell me. So in any event,

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Speaker 1: it's not my fault. That's all I want to hammer

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Speaker 1: home Florida State in twenty twenty four. What are they

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Speaker 1: going to be? Let's look at the tweet. I was

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Speaker 1: asking you guys about radical opinions about biggest predictions for

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Speaker 1: this year, and I said, the biggest story of college

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Speaker 1: football in twenty twenty four is going to be what

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Speaker 1: And one of you said, dj Uyan Galilea, who is

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Speaker 1: now at Florida State in case you miss that, is

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Speaker 1: going to have a resurgence that leads to Florida State

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Speaker 1: making the playoff Okay, is that radical? Is that that

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Speaker 1: bold of prediction? Let's dissect it for a second. So

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Speaker 1: they have the ninth best odds to win the national

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Speaker 1: championship this coming year, Florida State, they have the best

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Speaker 1: odds in the ACC. So they are the current favorite

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Speaker 1: to win the ACC this upcoming year. They're already kind

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Speaker 1: of there. If you're talking about them making a playoff

514
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Speaker 1: this year, the level they finished last season at, they're there.

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Speaker 1: There's no guarantee. You just copy and paste your finish

516
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Speaker 1: to be where you start this upcoming year. We always

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Speaker 1: preach against that philosophy, but I mean Florida State's team

518
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Speaker 1: last year. I don't want to get into whether they

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Speaker 1: should or shouldn't have. They nearly made the playoff this

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Speaker 1: past year, and that's a four team field, a twelve

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Speaker 1: team field. Not only would they have been in, they

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Speaker 1: they probably would have been given a buy as an

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Speaker 1: undefeated Power five conference champ. However that ends up working.

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Speaker 1: So do they just remain the caliber they are? First off, Now,

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Speaker 1: that's easier said than done. So dj Uyangilile he was

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Speaker 1: at Clemson, then he went to Oregon State last year,

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Speaker 1: now is at Florida State. Do we need a resurgence here.

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Speaker 1: I think what you do need is the best year

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Speaker 1: he's had so far. And hey, man, progression, you're one year, two,

530
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Speaker 1: you're three, like it's supposed to happen that way. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: always happen that way. I think he needs his best year.

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Speaker 1: I think he needs improvement in the category of completion percentage,

533
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Speaker 1: and he needs improvement in cutting down on turnovers. Okay,

534
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Speaker 1: because Jordan Travis was a really, really good football player,

535
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Speaker 1: and it's a shame that it ended the way it

536
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Speaker 1: did for him, or else we would have been able

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Speaker 1: to see what he could do in a playoff setting.

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Speaker 1: But maybe we just hit the delay button on Florida

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Speaker 1: State in the playoff. I think we did. Like I

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Speaker 1: think they're going to be in the playoff several years.

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna take a crack at it. If

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Speaker 1: you get better completion percentage, if you get lower turnovers,

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Speaker 1: if they plug him in this offense like I think

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Speaker 1: they're capable of doing, maybe it does look like a resurgence.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's just in a good spot. They're losing their

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Speaker 1: top two wide receivers, they're in the bottom half of

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Speaker 1: returning production. They backfill very nicely there. Portal recruiting, they

548
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Speaker 1: just finished with the number twelve recruiting class. But those

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Speaker 1: portal pieces, they'll be a contender. You won't watch them

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Speaker 1: and say, boy, they're hurting for talent this year. I

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Speaker 1: believe in the program. Florida State is entering that world

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Speaker 1: where some of these questions like returning production or how

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Speaker 1: many new starters you're going to have, or how inexperienced

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Speaker 1: you're starting twenty two are? You know, I'm sort of

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Speaker 1: get to the point where I just look and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think Mike Norvel does, and

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Speaker 1: I trust that guy. I trust Mike Norvel and salute there.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, DJ, I don't have to carry

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Speaker 1: that team on his back. They'll have a lot of

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Speaker 1: proven commodities, and they'll have a lot of capable commodities,

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Speaker 1: and like I said, their favored to win the conference

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Speaker 1: right now. So let's see how that unfolds. But I

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Speaker 1: don't think it takes some miracle, which was the way

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Speaker 1: the the tweet was kind of phrased there. I didn't

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Speaker 1: even realize I brought coffee out onto the desk, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yet again, here I am holding a completely blank cup

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Speaker 1: in my hand and it's hold on a second. N't

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Speaker 1: draw something here? Question mark? See this question mark? Why

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Speaker 1: is your logo not on this cup? I'm gonna rank

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Speaker 1: stuff on this set anyway. Who in the world misses

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Speaker 1: this chance for product placement? Not Academy Sports and outdoors,

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Speaker 1: that's for sure. So the other night, we took it

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Speaker 1: upon ourselves to rank the SEC programs, not teams programs. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I want to say about thirty percent of respondents promptly

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Speaker 1: took that opportunity to misconstrue what we said and pretend

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Speaker 1: like it was a team ranking. So I had Missouri

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Speaker 1: at number ten for example, which if you're ranking the team,

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Speaker 1: Missouri number ten is ASA nine because there are not

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Speaker 1: ten better teams coming into this year than Missouri in

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Speaker 1: the SEC. But I wasn't doing that. So what we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do tonight, what we're gonna attempt to do tonight,

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Speaker 1: is we are going to attempt to rank the big

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Speaker 1: ten programs. Now, you know, we have eighteen in this thing.

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Speaker 1: Now it's crazy. So I'm gonna take a nice sip

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Speaker 1: from this cup of coffee and then I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: my best. That's all I can do. It's all me

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Speaker 1: and my ever said she expects of me. I just

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Speaker 1: need to do my best. So here we go. Lukewarm coffee.

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Speaker 1: Lukewarm it best. We love a good luke though. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's rank the Big ten programs. So what I value

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Speaker 1: when I am ranking a program is not just what

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Speaker 1: you did last year or what I think you're gonna

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Speaker 1: do this year for a program. I'm looking at a

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Speaker 1: rolling three year snapshot, and I blend things like on

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Speaker 1: field results, talent acquisition, stability, and resource pool. All of

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Speaker 1: those things matter when I'm defining the status of a program.

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Speaker 1: So I have six tiers here, by the way, in

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Speaker 1: the Big ten, six tiers of programs. Tier one. This

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Speaker 1: is gonna be controversial. Whatever I've got Ohio State as

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Speaker 1: the number one program in the Big ten right now.

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Speaker 1: They've got doubledsh wins the past three years, they got

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Speaker 1: top five recruiting classes the past three years. They are

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Speaker 1: a big time flex in the portal right now. They've

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Speaker 1: got an extremely deep pool of resources, and they've got stability.

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Speaker 1: Those are all the things I'm looking for. You might say, well,

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Speaker 1: aren't you looking for wins against Michigan on the field. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I sure am, which is why Michigan would be number one,

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Speaker 1: and in pure on field results they are number one.

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Speaker 1: But I have to factor in what just happened. I

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Speaker 1: have to factor in that the coaching staff got gutted

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Speaker 1: and the head coach that was responsible for that left.

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Speaker 1: Michigan still a heck of a program though, So it's

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Speaker 1: not a knock. It's the same thing I did with Bama.

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Speaker 1: I got respect for Kaylin de Bor, I got respect

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Speaker 1: for shir and Moore, and I've got respect for the

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Speaker 1: overall state of the program. We're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: Michigan later in the show. So Michigan is still the

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Speaker 1: number two program here. They're forty and three in their

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Speaker 1: past three years. Back to back classes outside of the

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Speaker 1: top ten. Is interesting in recruiting, but this has been

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Speaker 1: a developmental program. Okay, so Michigan's not a program that

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Speaker 1: has needed top five recruiting classes. Oregon, I've got in

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Speaker 1: Tier one Oregon, Day one in the Big Ten. I've

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Speaker 1: got to miss the number three program in the Big Ten.

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Speaker 1: They are surging right now, that got back to back

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Speaker 1: to back double digit win seasons, back to back top

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Speaker 1: ten classes. They are finishing right now. I think with

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Speaker 1: the number three class in the country, just insane recruiting

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Speaker 1: right now. Not to put portaling in a back seat,

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Speaker 1: because Dan Landing and his staff are bringing in really

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Speaker 1: good guys in the portal as well, and they have

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Speaker 1: maximum investment. They have maximum stability and resource pool up there.

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Speaker 1: So Ohio State, Michigan, and Oregon make up Tier one

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Speaker 1: in the Big Ten. Tier two is not deep at all.

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Speaker 1: There's one team in Tier two in the Big Ten,

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Speaker 1: and that is Penn State. When you look at Penn State,

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Speaker 1: you see a lot of very good, not much elite.

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Speaker 1: You see a whole lot of very good though, and

639
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Speaker 1: there's a lot to be said for that. They are

640
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: a back to back double digit win program. They've got three,

641
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: well three classes now back to back to back. I

642
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: think Jesse in the top fifteen and recruiting, they're the

643
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: model of stability. You never look at Penn State and

644
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: say ooh, cause like I had issues behind the scenes there.

645
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: I'd love for them to continue to invest more in

646
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: things like NIOL like I would not that they haven't.

647
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: I'd love to see it more. I'd love to be

648
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: talking about Penn State like we're talking about Oregon and

649
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: Ohio State. But that's holding them to that standard. If

650
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: I hold them to a normal standard, they're above and

651
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: beyond most of the Big Ten. So I have told

652
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: you I think James Franklin and Penn State are the

653
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: most accurately rated program and coach in America. They have

654
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 1: been beating everyone that they're supposed to beat. They lose

655
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: to the ones that allegedly, according to Vegas, they're supposed

656
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: to lose to, and that means I'm slotting them right

657
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: where they need to be, right there at number four

658
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: and tier two. Tier three gets very interesting in the

659
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: Big ten. I got USC as the fifth best program

660
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: in this conference, but I think it is tier three

661
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: because I think there is separation between those those top

662
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: two tiers and those top four teams and USC. So

663
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: notice talked about this the last two shows. USC's not

664
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: buried here when I said they're in Tier three. I

665
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: told you those first two tiers aren't very crowded. Eleven

666
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: and three and eight and five. Those are the records

667
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley's had in his first two years there. Recruiting's

668
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: been good, it has not been elite. That's probably the

669
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: one thing that's taken people by surprise. You may have

670
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: thought when Lincoln Riley went to USC top five class

671
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 1: after top five class, and maybe they'll still get there,

672
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: that they have not been there yet. Have been bad,

673
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: but they have not been elite. Kind of feels like Clemson.

674
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: Clemson's recruiting pretty good right now, but not elite. They

675
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: have got right now a philosophy and staff churn that's

676
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: going on at USC. I've still got confidence in Lincoln Riley.

677
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: I talked about that, I think on Twitter the other

678
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: day someone asked me, Hey, do you still think he

679
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: can win a title? Sure I do, Sure I do.

680
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: It doesn't always have to be in the next twelve months, guys,

681
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: it could be three years down the road. But Lincoln Riley,

682
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: to his credit, I think he realized, Man, Plan A

683
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: is not gonna work for me. I gotta make moves here.

684
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: I got to redefine a lot of what my program

685
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: is good for him. He wouldn't be the first guy

686
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: to do that, nor will he be the last. I

687
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: got Washington behind USC, so two newcomers here. I got

688
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: in the five and six spot, and these are both

689
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: Tier three schools. They're twenty five and three in the

690
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: last two years. This is very interesting because how do

691
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: you ignore what Washington's just done and how do you

692
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: juxtapose that to what just happened to him afterwards? So

693
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: I kind of met in the middle here. They backfilled

694
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: their head coaching position really nicely. Kaitlin de Boor walks

695
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: out the door, but you went and got Jed Fish,

696
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: and Jedfish walked in, and you know what attracted him

697
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: to Washington, I think is knowing they are really really

698
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: all in up there. They get ignored because they're north

699
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: of Oregon and Oregon's got Nike A. Washington is really

700
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: really well aligned. I mentioned this the other day. I'll

701
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: tell you again. You ought to go find Adam Brenneman's

702
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: trip up to Seattle last year when he sat down

703
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: with Kaitlin Debor and they were talking about that. They

704
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: were talking about how much alignment there is in the university.

705
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: You haven't always said that about Washington. So I think

706
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: that they've got a good pool there. Recruiting has not

707
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: been what it needs to be. They've got to uptick that.

708
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: But I got him at number six, Iowa, I've got

709
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: at number seven. They're a model of consistency. They're just

710
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: the same thing over and over again. They are not

711
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: as good as those top schools. They beat most of

712
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: the other schools. They are who they are. There is

713
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: no top thirty five class in the last three years

714
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: for them, but they have a style, they have a

715
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: culture there. I don't know who the new OC is

716
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: going to be. Maybe it won't even matter because it's

717
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: going to be the Iowa offense either way. So I

718
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: got Iowa at number seven. Now we go to Tier four.

719
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: Wisconsin leads off Tier four. I think Wisconsin will be

720
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: north of Tier four and north of number eight when

721
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: we're sitting here doing this again this time next year.

722
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: They could ascend rapidly. They are a top twenty five

723
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: recruiter now. Under Luke Fickle, they got three straight winning seasons.

724
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: I think they are just scratching the surface under Fickle

725
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: of what they're capable of. That's going to be a

726
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: big boy program, I think in the not too distant future.

727
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 1: So what they have been gets them at the number

728
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: eight spot. What they will be I think could vault

729
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: them up much further than that. I got Maryland at

730
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: number nine. It was tough to figure out where to

731
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: put Maryland. They've gone seven and six and then a

732
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: couple of eight and five seasons, which you probably don't

733
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: realize because they've been parked in the East. They are

734
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: the biggest beneficiary of this division system dissolving because they've

735
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 1: been the ones that have been capable of probably winning

736
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: the West, but they hadn't been able to be over there.

737
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: They've been playing Penn State in Michigan and Ohio State

738
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: every year. They're kind of a top thirty to top

739
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: forty recruiting program right now. I think Maryland sits at

740
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: number nine, and I think Nebraska's right behind him at

741
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: number ten. On field, Nebraska's been three and nine, four

742
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: and eight, five and seven, so not as good as Maryland.

743
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: I mean, they've been progressing, if you want to call

744
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: it that, but they got back to back top twenty

745
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: five classes now in recruiting, and they've got the resources,

746
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: and I think now they've got the stability and they

747
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: got the right head coach in Matt Ruhle. So I

748
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: put in Nebraska there in number ten. I think all

749
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: three of those programs there I could find reason to

750
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: believe are in ascension mode. Let's go to tier five

751
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: that it gets messy here, cause I've got one, two, three.

752
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 1: I got six teams. I got six programs in Tier five.

753
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: I got Nebraska at number ten. That's the end of

754
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: Tier four, all right, Tier five we go Michigan State

755
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: at number eleven. Jonathan Smith's coming in to take over,

756
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: and I love him as a head coach, but he

757
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: just got there five minutes ago. They got back to

758
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: back losing seasons, which just makes that twenty twenty one

759
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: year feel so long ago. Got Minnesota at number twelve.

760
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: Two nine win seasons out of the past three. There

761
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 1: were five hundred this past year, though recruiting not special.

762
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: Purdue thirteen like UCLA fourteen. I have no clue what

763
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: to make of UCLA right now, no clue. Don't know

764
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: if Chip Kelly's gonna be there. I would lean towards

765
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: him not being there this upcoming year. And so I mean,

766
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: how do you define what the program even is. It's

767
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: in a state of flux top to bottom. Rutgers at fifteen,

768
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 1: Rutgers could be a big mover. Rutgers. Check out that schedule, Jesse,

769
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: just in my ear, give me a yes or no.

770
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: Here does Rutgers play Ohio State this year? No? Does

771
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: Rutgers play Michigan this year. No, does Rutgers play Oregon

772
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: this year? No? How did they pull that off? That's

773
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: not a yes or no question, I know, but Rutgers

774
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: there it is a little scarlet shark fin off off

775
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: the shore. It's just Lance Glenn with a fake shark

776
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: fin on its back. But still there is a Rutgers

777
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: shark fin off shore, like one of you got that reference.

778
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: By the way, I've got Illinois behind them, and then

779
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: in Tier six, because yes, there's a Tier six in

780
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: the Big ten. I got Northwestern I mean four and

781
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: twenty in the last two years ago, and then they

782
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,959
Speaker 1: went eight and five last year, one hundred and second

783
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: in recruiting, I don't know. And Indiana they're nine and

784
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: twenty seven in the last three years with a new

785
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 1: head coach. So that is how the Big ten stacks up.

786
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: I look forward to getting your feedback on those power

787
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: rankings of programs, but I will just humbly ask, if

788
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: you say someone's too high, tell me who belongs ahead

789
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: of them, and give me your reasoning. I'm happy, I'm

790
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: not happy, but I'm willing to have disagreement. But don't

791
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: just say, oh, this stupid, they don't belong here. Well,

792
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: who does who does? Anyway, we move on. Oh, guess

793
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 1: what happened between now and the last time we spoke.

794
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: Guess what happened? Bill Connolly dropped the returning production metrics.

795
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: I have always been an advocate of Bill Connelly's returning

796
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: production article being featured at halftime of the Super Bowl.

797
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: I don't need to listen to usher. I would much

798
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: rather know what Clemson's returning production numbers look like. And

799
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: so Bill Connelly has dropped these over on ESPN dot Com.

800
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: I normally take half a day off work just to

801
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: consume it, but now I work in this industry, so

802
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 1: management considers this work. These are a very, very valuable resource. Yes,

803
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: recruiting matters, Yes, backfilling lost this matter through the portal. No,

804
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: this is not a tell all stat but it's a

805
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: valuable resource. How much of your production is returning this

806
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: upcoming year? And I was looking at the top ten.

807
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: Guess who number one is? Well, first off, guess who

808
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: number two is? Iowa State playoff team this upcoming year.

809
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 1: Spoiler alert, Virginia Tech's number one got eighty six percent

810
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: returning production, Iowa State just behind them at eighty five percent,

811
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: and the rest of the top ten sounds like this. Nebraska,

812
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, Virginia. Yeah, what's happening in the state of

813
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: Virginia this year? Northwestern Kennesas State, Welcome to FBS, Rutgers, Miami,

814
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: of Ohio and Syracuse. I think that we've been talking

815
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: about Virginia already, and I didn't even know they were

816
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: number one. I knew they were gonna be way up there.

817
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: I didn't know they were going to be number one

818
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: and returning production in Iowa State? Man, what more can

819
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: I say? Get Ready? Get ready? You think I've been

820
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: a homer for them in the past. No, nothing like

821
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: you've seen this year. We may just peel off the

822
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: red and yellow. We may be black and white nWo

823
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: version of Iowa State this year. We don't need you

824
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: to love us. We don't need you cheering us on.

825
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 1: We got us, okay, as long as we got us.

826
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: We got a guy about to win a Super Bowl

827
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 1: at quarterback this Sunday and brock Perty We're fine. We're

828
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: gonna be fine. Rest of you, I don't know, but

829
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna be fine. Utah, where's Utah? Jesse? We were

830
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: looking at them earlier. They're in the above seventy percent area,

831
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: which is still good. Texas A and M up there,

832
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: which I think takes some people by surprise because you

833
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: picture A and M in your mind and you're like, well,

834
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: they got Mike Elko, but didn't all the players leave,

835
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: not all of them. Some of them did, but they

836
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: also brought some guys in, and so A and M

837
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: is not going to be a painfully, woefully inexperienced team

838
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: this upcoming year. Penn State's up there fairly high. Texas

839
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 1: Oregon again through the portal. You see them lose bo Nicks,

840
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: but you need to pay attention to the fact that

841
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: they pick up Dylan Gabriel and Dante Moore. So that's

842
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: the above seventy percent crowd there. Iowa was up there too,

843
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: for the record, But what about the bottom three of

844
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: the four college football playoff teams are down near the bottom.

845
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: Washington not surprisingly, is tied for one hundred and twenty

846
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: eighth in returning production. You know who. They're tied with Michigan,

847
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: and Michigan doesn't even have a bunch of returning production

848
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: on their coaching staff either. Bama's at one fifteen. Of course,

849
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: Bama was in the one twenties last year and still

850
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: went to the playoff. So, like I said, this is

851
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 1: not a tell all stat, but it is a telling stat. Now,

852
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: the most fun thing I think we could do is

853
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: we could take some of these teams who you know,

854
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 1: maybe at like forty five or fifty in overall returning production,

855
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: but realize there are extremes. For instance, Oklahoma, you look

856
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: at them, they got the eighth best returning production on defense,

857
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: but they got one hundred and eleventh on offense, Clemson

858
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: twentieth on offense, one hundred and third on defense, Miami

859
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: eighteen offense, eighty four defense, Iowa twelfth offense, sixty fifth defense.

860
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: So you know, that's really where it becomes imperative. On

861
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: those sides of the ball where you're in the one hundreds,

862
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: you need some young guys to step up, or you

863
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: need to really be active in the post spring portal.

864
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: And I'm not a big believer that, you know, the

865
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: post spring portal is gonna, you know, bail anyone out.

866
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: You may hit gold, ever strike gold every now and then,

867
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: but that's gonna be tough. Lacey Washington is tuned in

868
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: New Orleans, Louisiana and Augusta Georgia. Thank you guys so much.

869
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: So I mentioned this earlier. I wanted to get right

870
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: back to it for a second. I kind of talked

871
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: about this on the Late Kick Extra pod, but I

872
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: do want to circle back around Jesse. Do we have

873
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: a question about this? Yeah, So number one Michigan fan,

874
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: Mitch from Lansing hit us up and said, what do

875
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: you make of so many of last year's coaching staffers

876
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: leaving to join Jim Harbaugh in LA or just leaving

877
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: all together. It's like Harbaugh's jumping ship and leaving the

878
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: program stranded at sea. It's really not looking good right now.

879
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: UH can't disagree necessarily. It's not the end of the world.

880
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 1: But man, they've lost Harball obviously. They lost Jesse Mentor

881
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: the DC Jay Harball, the special teams guys, safeties coach,

882
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: Mike Eliston, defensive line Ben Herbert, legendary strength and conditioning coach.

883
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: Up there, he's gone. They lost some off field guys

884
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: and Sharon Moore, you know, technically elevated. So you're looking

885
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: for an OC, you're looking for a DC, you're looking

886
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: for a lot and you're not even mentioning losing players

887
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: as well. So I'll get back to Harbaugh in a second,

888
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: but you also got two NCAA investigations sort of just

889
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: looming in the background. There is unrest, to put it mildly,

890
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 1: behind the curtain, at the athletic director position, and namely

891
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: the way a lot of people feel about the athletic

892
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: director up there. Not the biggest superstar in Michigan circles

893
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: Ward Manual and their nil situation leaves a lot to

894
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: be desired right now. What I'm trying to tell you

895
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: is they just won the national title, and there are

896
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: a lot of flaws in that program. Winning titles sometimes

897
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: covers that up, but there are a lot of flaws

898
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: in that program right now. So you may ask yourself, oh, man, well,

899
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: all this behind the scenes drama and friction, what does

900
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: Sharon Moore do? He puts his nose down and he

901
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: gets to work. That's what he does. You fix it.

902
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: It's your program, now, fix it. Listen. Hardball was on

903
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: very hard times as well, not too long ago, so

904
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: anyone inside that program remembers that they've seen it. You

905
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: don't always get handed a winner like you don't always

906
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 1: get handed already made turnkey national champ, repeat type team

907
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta build, Sometimes you gotta get dirty a

908
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: little bit. Maybe they'll have to up there. Like I

909
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: said the other day, man, when they announced Cheron Moore,

910
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how qualified he is.

911
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: They do, it's I can't know. I've never seen him

912
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: be a head coach aside from you know, interim position

913
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: this year. But I don't know him like they do

914
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: in the building. They know him. So if they circled him,

915
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: knowing full well how attractive that Michigan job would be nationally,

916
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 1: if they took it to market, and they still circled

917
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: him and said, Nope, don't need to search. This is

918
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: our guy. That's good enough for me. That's good enough

919
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: for me. I'll judge him based on results, just like

920
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: the rest of us will. But the people in the

921
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: building believe in him. Okay, well, the right people, I

922
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: guess believe in him. But they got to get they

923
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: got to get the rest of the right folks in

924
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 1: the building. Now, as for Harball, I know there's a

925
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: kind of a modicum of a conversation out there about

926
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: Jim Harball right now. And was this all worth it? Yeah? Sure,

927
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 1: we won a national title, but now he gutted our staff,

928
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: and all the other guys have kind of left or

929
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: they're not here anymore, and we got these unresolved n

930
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: c DOUBLEA investigations. Is that all worth it? Yes, it's

931
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: all worth it. It's all I was there, I was

932
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 1: in Houston. I saw you guys, I saw those looks

933
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: on your faces. Absolutely, it's worth it. You won a

934
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: national championship, you beat Ohio State three years and they're

935
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: on the process. Yeah, it's worth it because you know

936
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: as well as I do. No matter how this year

937
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: or next year, the year after that tunes, it turns out,

938
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: no matter you know what, kind of like rubber stamp penalties,

939
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: the NCAA comes down on you with. That's not what

940
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna tell your grandkids about. If you're student at

941
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: Michigan right now, that's not what you're telling your kids

942
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: twenty years down the road. You don't care about that stuff.

943
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 1: You're gonna tell them about being at that Ohio State game.

944
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: You're gonna tell them about going to the Big Ten

945
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: title games and yawning in the second half. You're gonna

946
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: tell them about an instant classic against Bama and the

947
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl. Finally getting over that playoff hump and then

948
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: going to Houston, Texas and by the way, listening to

949
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: Hale on the roof pregame, that was a wild experience.

950
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: And winning a national championship, that's what you're gonna tell them. Yeah,

951
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: that's worth it. Absolutely, That's what my advice is, win

952
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: a national championship whenever you can, not necessarily, however you can.

953
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: We're not advocating for underhandedness around here. That's not the

954
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 1: Pate State way. But we're gonna let the NCAA sort

955
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 1: that out. I have no comment on investigations largely until

956
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: they're concluded, and so this one's not yet or those

957
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: aren't yet. But yeah, yes, it's worth the trade off.

958
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,399
Speaker 1: All right. The last thing I wanted to do since

959
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: yesterday National Signing Day, would you say, Jesse, Oh yeah,

960
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 1: good point, good point, hey, Colin, Actually nevermind, nevermind, we'll talk.

961
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: We'll talk after the show. So we were looking at

962
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: some of the odds a second ago. I'm talking about FSU,

963
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: for example, and they are twelfth, well they're first in

964
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: the ACC and they're in the teens to win the

965
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 1: national championship this year. We get those odds from FanDuel.

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Speaker 1: Of course, FanDuel the exclusive odds provider of late Kick.

967
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,680
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968
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969
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970
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,840
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971
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,239
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972
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,239
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973
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:45,279
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974
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,560
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975
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977
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Speaker 1: would never advocate for you to do is gamble on recruiting.

1014
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: But I do add the that you follow recruiting. National

1015
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: Signing Day was yesterday. As you and I are talking

1016
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: Thursday night, National Signing Day was yesterday. It pales in

1017
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: comparison to what it once was because all that action

1018
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: has moved into December. Personally, I'd love if they scrap

1019
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: that and they go right back to the first Wednesday

1020
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 1: in February being the national holiday that it very much

1021
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: should be. But I was looking at some of the

1022
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: results here now that we have a bow on all

1023
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: these classes. Georgia finished number one again and This is

1024
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: the sixteenth straight cycle an SEC team has finished number one.

1025
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: Georgia got eighteen guys from the top two four seven.

1026
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: This is not an accident. It's just not an accident.

1027
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: They invest more in recruiting than anyone. They take it

1028
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: more seriously than just about anyone. Although I know there's

1029
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: some other stats out there working their tails off. But

1030
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: the thing I love about Georgia is number one. They

1031
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: don't apologize for it. They don't try and nickel and

1032
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: dime their way to a number one recruiting class. They

1033
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: go spend, they invest, and now I don't mean they're

1034
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: not dropping huge bags out there. In fact, they can

1035
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: underbid because they know, playing for that Georgia logo, that's

1036
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: what's what the rest of you are having to overpay against.

1037
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: We don't have to overpay. We're Georgia, you know. So

1038
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: they've got that going for him. But also you can

1039
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: tell they've ascended into a little different layer of the

1040
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: of the atmosphere because this was kind of a whole

1041
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: hum number one class. If for instance, if the if

1042
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: Penn State landed the number one class in the country,

1043
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: it would be a massive story because you don't see

1044
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: Penn State land number one classes. Georgia is just kind

1045
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: of all right, we landed another number one class. How's

1046
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: twenty five looking. We got a early read on twenty six.

1047
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: That's just standard operating procedure. What about the state of Florida,

1048
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: So I'm always paying attention to Florida, the state. All

1049
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: three teams down there, Miami, Florida State, in Florida all

1050
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 1: in the top fifteen. Hasn't always been that way. I

1051
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: am a hugel that keeping in state talent home in

1052
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: Florida is one of the keys to maintaining or injecting

1053
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: more competitive balance in the college football. Miami was fourth,

1054
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: FSU twelfth, Florida fourteenth. Miami really loaded up on the

1055
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: defensive line. Their top three guys are defensive linemen, and

1056
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: you got guys like Reuben Bain that came in in

1057
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Speaker 1: the last class, So they got some monsters there. They

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Speaker 1: are looking at Florida State down there at twelfth, and

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Speaker 1: you combine that with Florida State having the number four

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Speaker 1: portal class. So, like I said, they got Luke Cromanhak

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Speaker 1: who is the future quarterback. They're bridging the gap between

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00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: now and him with DJ coming in this year, so

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00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: they have quarterback very very much figured out, and now

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Speaker 1: you hope it turns out like you want it to

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00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: on paper. But they've got that solved and they more

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Speaker 1: and more they're recruiting guys that are going to be

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Speaker 1: the nucleus foundation of the roster. But they will not

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00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: forsake that transfer portal if they can backfill outgoing talent

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00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: with really really good talent already available. They were in

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Speaker 1: the top five for some of this cycle. They ended

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00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: up number fourteen, but they kept DJ Lagway, who is

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Speaker 1: the number three quarterback there, number three overall, and that's

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Speaker 1: a quarterback they had to have. It's a player they

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Speaker 1: had to have. It was the crown jewel of the class.

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Speaker 1: He was there was. I know there was some bumpiness

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Speaker 1: down the stretch. If Lagway wasn't a part of that class,

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Speaker 1: that was going to be the disaster. What about Texas

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00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: and ou Let's hurt some feelings here for just a second.

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00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: Texas finishes with the number six class in the country.

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Speaker 1: Oe you not too far behind at number eight? Texas

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00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,919
Speaker 1: the two years prior number three and number five? Oh

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00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: you the two years prior number five and number eight.

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00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: The only schools in the SEC who can claim to

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00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: be better than that are Georgia and Alabama. That's it.

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Speaker 1: That's the end of the list. Outside of Georgia and Bama,

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Speaker 1: no programs in the SEC have recruited at a higher

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Speaker 1: level over the past three years than Texas and Oklahoma.

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00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: LSU is the next closest. So again, I know it's

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Speaker 1: very uncomfortable to hear this, but there is this very

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Speaker 1: very false notion that once, oh, you in Texas walk

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Speaker 1: into the SEC, they're in store for a rude awakening.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be rude awakenings. I just think Texas and

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Speaker 1: Know you may deal some of them out because if

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Speaker 1: you think that those two are walking in ill equipped

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00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: to compete in the SEC, you're crazy. They're averaging classes

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Speaker 1: inside the top seven or top eight over the past

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00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,919
Speaker 1: three cycles. That's a roster. That's not a class. That's

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Speaker 1: a roster. And then you combine that with what each

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Speaker 1: one of them can do in the transfer portal. They

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Speaker 1: have SEC rosters. They're walking into the conference with SEC rosters.

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Speaker 1: It's not coming in here learning your way around bumpercar

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Speaker 1: style and then hopefully, hopefully building towards towards a nice

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Speaker 1: solid twenty twenty eight season. They're gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: win in twenty twenty four, and it's going to come

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Speaker 1: at the expense of some of you. I've spoken my piece.

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Speaker 1: I'm keeping an eye on Jeremiah Smith, number one receiver

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Speaker 1: in the country. He goes to Ohio State. Don't care

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Speaker 1: who else they have on campus. That kid's a day

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Speaker 1: one starter. I think Dylan Riola is fascinating to watch.

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Speaker 1: I think Nebraska picking up Riola that was one of

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00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: the biggest stories of the cycle. They flipped him from Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Why because he wanted to go there. Independent of what

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Speaker 1: some broadcasters out there it may have been alleged to

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Speaker 1: assist with. What a joke that story has been over

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Speaker 1: the past forty eight hours. And so Dylan Riola at Nebraska,

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Speaker 1: Nebraska finished inside the top twenty, by the way, and

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Speaker 1: Cam Coleman an alien receiver at Auburn, Auburn locking down

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Speaker 1: a top ten class. Very quietly. I think he's on

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Speaker 1: the field immediately, and I candidly, I think a lot

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Speaker 1: you know why I think this because Tom Lloyd said so,

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Speaker 1: Tom Lloyd, congrats, Another clap here to end the show.

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Speaker 1: Congrats to Tom Lloyd elevating to the national recruiting team. Here.

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Speaker 1: Highly suggest you follow him a lot of good insight.

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Speaker 1: Been in the game for a long time, and I

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Speaker 1: am I'm always a fan once this, once the cycle

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Speaker 1: comes to a close of being around these guys and

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Speaker 1: a lot of them are here today. Ivans has been here,

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Speaker 1: Cooper's been here, Tom Lloyd's been here, Brandon Huffman was

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Speaker 1: it's always a treat to listen to that because I'm

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Speaker 1: not in the weeds day to day in recruiting, but

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Speaker 1: they are. So Congrats to Tom Lloyd and I highly

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