1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, and there's 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: Chuck and Jerry's here too, and this is a podcast 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 2: called Stuff you Should Know About Rice. 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: That's right, kind I just throw out a couple of 6 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: stats real quick at at the onset. I would love that, 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: because this is about rice, the food. Just in case 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: it was confusing at all. 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: What other kind of rice is? 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 3: You know? 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: No, I just wondered. I mean, for all I know, 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: it's some weird new sex term. 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: Oh that's rich. Okay, Yeah, you've clearly only seen it 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: written before. 15 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: I guess so. All right, So rice generally is looked 16 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: at as the most eaten food in the world. I 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: think some people might have wheat just ahead of it, 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: but it's either one or number two. It's grown on 19 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: every continent except Antarctica, about three and a half billion people. 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: It's a staple food, accounting for twenty percent of the 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: calories consumed all over the world is rice, which is 22 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: a staggering number. In Asian countries, fifty percent of the calories. 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: That's amazing. Fifty percent is rice. 24 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is until you realize that pork kracklnes make 25 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: up another twenty percent of all the calories consumed worldwide. 26 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: Yum. 27 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: There's also like something that's worth mentioning too, that rice 28 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: production supports two hundred million households in developing countries. That's 29 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: how they make their living. Yeah, so to say that 30 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: rice is an important crop here on planet Earth is 31 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: kind of an understatement. Uh yeah, okay, good, I'm glad 32 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: you agree. There's one thing I want to cover before 33 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: we move on, because it bothered me, so hopefully it 34 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: will bother somebody else, and that's why I want to 35 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: satisfy that itch. Okay, I wondered what rice is when 36 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: we're eating rice, what is it? It's a seed. The 37 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: rice is the seed of the rice plant. Did you 38 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: know that? 39 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: Uh? 40 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well. 41 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: That was just my new persona. 42 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: Here's how we know that rice is a seed aside 43 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: from you don't have to be a botanist for this. 44 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: You can go to the store and buy rice and 45 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: plant it and it will grow a rice plant. So 46 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: it's the seed, but it's classified as a cereal, which 47 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: is a seed from a grass plant. And so rice 48 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: is a seed. Everybody calmed down, that's. 49 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: Right, and I'm clearly joking. By the way. I can't 50 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: imagine how many people I turned off with the new persona. 51 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 2: I liked it. 52 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: I figure people like, is that what Chuck shaped his 53 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: beard for Halloween? Is that new Chuck? I don't like it? Oh? 54 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, you did. I think you should have 55 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: grown the mustache back real quick after Halloween. 56 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: Buddy, if I could, I would. I miss that beard 57 00:02:59,280 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: so much. 58 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,839 Speaker 2: Already are you growing it back? 59 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: I mean I told Ruby Ruby hated it, of course, 60 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: but I said Ruby, it's already growing back. I've already 61 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: started the second I finished shaving, I started growing it back. 62 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: You're like, I got to hurry up and squeeze Halloween in. 63 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: But the stash look pretty good, though, right. 64 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: It did. I liked it a lot. It looks like 65 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: a construction worker slash porn star slash yacht rock musician 66 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: all rolled into one. Yeah, like Kenny Loggins. I guess. 67 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Any anytime you have a stash like that, you're 68 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: twenty percent more police officer too. 69 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: Oh don't forget that. Yeah, yeah, but you looked a 70 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: little more like village people police officer. 71 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: Hey, I'll take that any day. Okay, that just sounded 72 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: like Kim Katrell. 73 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: You should have been like, oh, I'll take that any day. 74 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: All right, back to rice, because this is the Bulkan 75 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: and we can't goof around. We're gonna break down types 76 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: of rice. If you look sort of at the top 77 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: of the dividing point, you're probably gonna go white rice 78 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: or brown rice. I really don't care for brown rice. 79 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: I'm not yucking yum. I can't stand the taste. 80 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 2: It's an acquired taste. 81 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: It's much better for you. They are not different varieties. 82 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: But white rice as rice with the brand and the 83 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: germ removed. Brown rice, and also red and black rice 84 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: still has the brand in the germ, and it's much much, 85 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: much better for you than white rice. I just cannot 86 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: stomach it. 87 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. The reason why is because the brand and the 88 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: germ are the thing that have all the nutrients. So 89 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 2: if you're eating white rice, it's basically stripped of any 90 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 2: nutritional value whatsoever, so much so that a lot of 91 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: rice is actually fortified. They mix the vitamins and minerals 92 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: that they strip out back in in different ways. 93 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: That's enriched. 94 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, let's talk about that real quick. Okay, did 95 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: you see the different ways that you can enrich white rice. 96 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: I mean, can't they just kind of like powder coat it. 97 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: Sure, powder coating is one, but they don't powder coat 98 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: all of it. They pick out select grains of rice, 99 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: powder coat them, and then mix them back in with 100 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: unpowder coated rice at a ratio of about one to 101 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 2: one hundred. 102 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: What really? And that provides enough good stuff. 103 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: I guess. So do you have any other guesses of 104 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: how you could enrich rice? 105 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: Mmm? I'm trying to think how I would do it now, 106 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: I have no other guesses. 107 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 2: You could coat it in layers, based coat, nutrient coat 108 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 2: to protective top coat. And then the last one is 109 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: you can extrude it. So you take rice flour and 110 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: you actually make fake rice grains, and you've mixed the 111 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: rice powder with the nutrient powder, and you mix those 112 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: in with real rice or regular rice. That's how you 113 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 2: do it. I don't know why, but I could not 114 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 2: not find out how you would enrich rice. It just 115 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: got me. So I had to go figure it out, 116 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: and I wanted to share that, just like sharing the 117 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: fact that rice is seed. 118 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: That's right. I love it. Most of the rice that 119 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: we you know, kind of buy in stores and know 120 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: about is a descendant from the ryz A capital o. 121 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: I guess the Ariza sativa that was domesticated in China, 122 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: you know, somewhere between eighty two hundred and thirteen and 123 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: a half thousand years ago. There are two main subspecies, 124 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: Indica into couch am i right, and Japonica. I think 125 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: that Indica is more likely to be long grain. The 126 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: Japonica is more likely to be short even though there 127 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: are exceptions, and the starch levels are different in the two, right. 128 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Japonica has more starch, a certain kind 129 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 2: called amelopectin, which is water soluble, so it makes the 130 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: rice sticky. Indica is chuck full of ammelos, which is 131 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 2: a starch, but it keeps the rice separate, or the 132 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: rice doesn't stick together, it doesn't actually keep it separate. 133 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: And so knowing that and knowing long grain and short grain, 134 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 2: you can kind of start to guess what different varieties 135 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: of rice belong to which family. 136 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, we don't want to leave out the 137 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: or as a glab arima that's African rice, and that 138 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: is is grown in Africa. Still it is not as 139 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: popular as the Asian or As a variety, but they 140 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: have tried to mix the two because there are good 141 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: and bad points for both. I think the African variety 142 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: is a little heartier and more resistant to disease and 143 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: pests and climate issues, which is great. I think water 144 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: depth and soil it just seems like a better all 145 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: round sort of grower. But the yields aren't as great 146 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: and it's harder to mill without breaking. So maybe cross 147 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: breeding these two you could come up with like a 148 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: super rice. 149 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what you'd call it. Maybe Glaborema japonica. 150 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: Poof, Yeah, that sounds great. 151 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: Let's talk some varieties, shall we. 152 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, we can kind of quickly go through. But Bosmadi 153 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: is one of my faves. It's a long grain indicica rice. 154 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: South Asian cuisine a lot of time will have bosmodi 155 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: or maybe jasmine, also a long grain indica rice. It's 156 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: a little stickier than basmadi, a little more floral. 157 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 2: Did you know I've always thought like they added something 158 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: to give jasmine rice that smell. Apparently that's natural to 159 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: the rice. Did you know that? 160 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: I kind of figured that because I just didn't think 161 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: they would add a scent to a rice. 162 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: I could see that I could see somebody adding a scent, 163 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: especially the time they love like orchids and stuff like that. 164 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 2: They love the strings that are lovely, and so adding 165 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: a lovely scent to rice makes sense. 166 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Two of my favorite rice is right off the bat. 167 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: All right, Well, one of my favorites actually, let's just 168 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: go ahead and say it. My favorite is sushi rice. 169 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: It's a type of Japonica. Not surprisingly, it's sticky, but 170 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: it's not as sticky as another kind of rice called 171 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: sticky rice or glutenous rice, and they're not to be confused, 172 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: even though they're both pretty sticky. Glutinous rice is naturally 173 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: sticky because it's got so much amylopectin starts in it 174 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 2: that it actually the grains actually kind of crumble together 175 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: and it almost turns into like a porridge. Like when 176 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: you make a batch of sticky rice, it's almost like 177 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: a just a big clump that sticks to your fingers, 178 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: gets all over the place. You can use just to 179 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: hang wallpaper. Sushi rice is sticky. It'll stick together. But 180 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 2: if you ever really look at sushi like a piece 181 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: of nageary, you can see the individual grains of rice. Yeah, 182 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: but it still sticks together, And the reason why it 183 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 2: really sticks together is because of the treatment it gets 184 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 2: with a little bit of vinegar, salt and sugar concoction 185 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: that's mixed in with the rice after it cooks. 186 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: That's right, maybe a manny petty. 187 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 2: I don't get that one. 188 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: You know the treatment? 189 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 2: Okay, do you ever get those? 190 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: Uh? 191 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: No, chuck, eat yourself at least to a pedicure. You 192 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: will never not get one again. 193 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: Uh we'll talk off air, okay, but I'm. 194 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: Just saying you can't surprise those people or offend them. 195 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: Somebody who's a professional pedicurist, it doesn't matter what your 196 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: feet look like. They will do it. And they yeah, yeah, 197 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: not crack a smile. 198 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: It's not a hammertoe issue. 199 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: Oh okay. 200 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 1: Can we move on to risotto, because if you love risotto, 201 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: you're probably looking at one of a couple of things, 202 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: both Japonic aversions, either arboreo or carnioli rice risotto. They're 203 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: both medium grain delicious. I don't I've made risotto before, 204 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: but it's really tough to perfect. Yeah, but one of 205 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: my favorite dishes if it's done right. 206 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: I made it once or twice too, and it actually 207 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: turned out both times. But it is very time consuming 208 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: because you add like the broth a little bit at 209 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 2: a time, and you basically have to stir until that 210 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: the rice absorbs the broth and over and over and 211 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: over again. But when it turns out it's delicious. It's 212 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: just much easier to order out though. 213 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: Yeah it's a dish. You got a babysit, you know, 214 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: you can't walk away. 215 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 2: Similarly, piea is a dish that you have to babysit too, 216 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 2: and that uses a couple of specific kinds of rice 217 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: bomba which means bomb because it expands into little bombs 218 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 2: the grains of rice to when they encounter water in Calispara. 219 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: And they're both short grain rices, which is strange. There 220 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: should be long grain because of the dish kind of 221 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: calls for it. But you do not want to use 222 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: other short grain rices as substitutes in paea because they're not. 223 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: They actually indica type rices like those other two are, 224 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 2: and they'll just cook different and you'll basically ruin your pia. 225 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 2: And who wants ruin pie? 226 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: Now? I used to make pia and I never baby 227 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: said it was I doing it wrong? 228 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I thought like you typically made it outdoors 229 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: and you basically had to hang around it while it 230 00:11:58,800 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: was cooking. 231 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,599 Speaker 1: I always just baked it in the oven, in the 232 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: proper pan. 233 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: Maybe that was just a cooking show I saw once, 234 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 2: and they were doing that to seem cool. 235 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: It was like one of those cooking challenges that like 236 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: they give them a bunch of restrictions. 237 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 2: No, weirdly, it was a cooking show. I don't remember 238 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: the chef, but Gwyneth Paltrow was standing around there and 239 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 2: it was like first thing in the morning, and they 240 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 2: were both bleary eyed and clearly messed up still from 241 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: the night before. But they decided to film that that 242 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: episode of the cooking show that day. 243 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: I'm probably not doing it in the traditional style or something, 244 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: but it always turned out pretty good. Good. I want 245 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about Carolina gold. It's one 246 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: of my favorite prices. It's in heirloom long grain Japonica. 247 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: You haven't had it, No, I've never had it? 248 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: Oh man, is it yourself? Yeah? It's great. Always when 249 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: I go to Charleston, I'll pick up a bag of 250 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: the local stuff. 251 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: Well, pick up two, I will. 252 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: Big boy comes in a looking little soft bag too, 253 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: you know. 254 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: I saw, oh, like a kind of a little burlap bag. 255 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, like a cloth thing. 256 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: I saw there's a company called Antson Mills that they 257 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: started making it in the nineteen nineties. I guess at 258 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: least for national sale, and their prices aren't terribly bad. 259 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: I didn't get to the shipping stage that probably jecks 260 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: the price up, but it was like eight bucks for 261 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: a pound of this apparently the best rice you'll ever have. 262 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you can just buy it in 263 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: publics here, can't you. 264 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 2: I've never looked for it. Maybe I will, I'm not sure. 265 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: I mean in Charleston, certainly you can buy it at 266 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: just Harris Teedter or whatever, because it's local and that's 267 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: the deal it was. You know, it comes from the Carolinas, 268 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: the lowlands of South Carolina and North Carolina. I think 269 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: it was the first commercial rice in the United States 270 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: and genetically goes back to South Asia, although the seeds 271 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: reportedly arrived to Charleston in the sixteen hundreds from Madagascar, 272 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: went away after the Civil War and then came back 273 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: into fashion, like you said, in the nineties when Anson 274 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: Mill started making it again. But this was a rice 275 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: where English colonists, you know, they came here. They hadn't 276 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: grown rice very significantly, so they they didn't really know 277 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: what they were doing. But enslaved Africans arrived, they had 278 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: that experience on how to grow rice, which was it's 279 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: a tricky crop and we'll get to all that later. 280 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: They had, you know, some lowland wetland cultivation areas in 281 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: West Africa. So they came with that knowledge, and you know, 282 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: that's how it became a thing in South Carolina, Like 283 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: how how to cultivate it and grow it there? 284 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: Yep? Then now we have Carolina gold. 285 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: That's right. 286 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: I have to go try because this article, thanks to 287 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: doctor Clau for helping us with this, too, made me 288 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 2: very hungry for rice. 289 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: How many of these others do you want to go over? 290 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: I don't know that there's much to go over. There's 291 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: black rice, which apparently has anthracyanin's the same pigment and blueberries, 292 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: so it's high in antioxidants. Yeah, apparently it was called 293 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: forbidden rice in ancient China because only royalty could eat it. 294 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: It's black rice, I think, right. 295 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, black rice, yeah, and then I think it's worth 296 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: mentioning wild rice. It's not technically rice because it doesn't 297 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 2: come from a rice plant comes from a different type 298 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 2: of grass that's native to North America. But from what 299 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 2: I see, it's actually even healthier a than brown rice. Okay, 300 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: and it's not bad. 301 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: I love it. 302 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: Do you like it? 303 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: And you know, I'll quickly shout out calros because when 304 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: I used to roll my own sushi, that's what I 305 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: would use. Even though it's not exactly sushi rice, I 306 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: was told by a chef like that it does pretty good. 307 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: Okay, that's a nice little tip from Chuck's kitchen. 308 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: All right, Well let's take a break then. It's a 309 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: good start, and we'll come back and talk about that 310 00:15:52,360 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: cultivation I spoke of right after this. All right, rice cultivation, 311 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: like we mentioned earlier, started in China, specifically the Yang 312 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: Sea River basin could have been like as much as 313 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: fourteen thousand years ago, definitely at least nine or ten 314 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: thousand years ago. And it's the kind of thing that 315 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: happened over time from like wild rice growing just in 316 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: the wild after heavy rains, to them saying hey, let's 317 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: actually try and farm this stuff, and you know, valleys 318 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: would flood and they would say, hey, this is this 319 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: is how you grow rice in water. Flooded paddies. I 320 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: imagine it was quite a revelation. 321 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it made it to South Asia, that 322 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: is India by I think eighty three hundred years ago, 323 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: and made it to Southeast Age about forty four hundred 324 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 2: years ago. And the whole idea of growing rice, Like 325 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: anybody who ever thinks about growing rice, you know, when 326 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 2: you're sitting around thinking about growing rice, you think of 327 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: it in paddies, like you're talking about like little flooded 328 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: fields usually surrounded by slightly raised dikes or walkways or buns, 329 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: and that is a way that rice grows. But it 330 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: doesn't actually need a flooded field to grow. It needs 331 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 2: a lot of irrigation, a lot of rainfall. But it 332 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 2: can also be grown on like mountain sides, terraced mountain sides. 333 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 2: That's called upland farming. But lowland part I didn't either. 334 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 2: Usually that's for subsistence that upland stuff, because it's so 335 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 2: much more productive using the lowland method, which is using 336 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: flooded paddies. But it only needs flooding a couple of 337 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: times during growing the growing season, and they actually drain 338 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: the paddy for harvesting. Yeah, but a lot of a 339 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: lot of people who cultivate rice just keep it flooded 340 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 2: the whole time because it's a lot easier to not 341 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 2: put water in and out when you need it. 342 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, as far as you know farming it, 343 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: you can be old school. It can be done by hand. Obviously, 344 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: they have machinery that can do that stuff now in 345 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: a lot of places. The rice plants, you can like 346 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: a lot of plants and vegetables and things like that, 347 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: and herbs. You can start them out in a like 348 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,719 Speaker 1: a nursery bed, transferm over to a paddy, or it 349 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: could be a big mechanized system of seed drilling. Or 350 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: you can drop rice. You can air drop it into 351 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: a flooded field and it doesn't take that long, a 352 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: few months, about one hundred and twenty days. And you know, 353 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: different varieties. It depends on like the depth of water 354 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: for the different varieties and stuff like that, and they 355 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: will drain as needed. But just a few months to 356 00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: grow a successful rice yield. 357 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was watching some mesmerizing videos on growing rice 358 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 2: and one of them was in Vietnam. I couldn't tell 359 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: where the other one was, but it was really interesting. 360 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 2: For some reason, I find a rice patty. Fascinating. 361 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: Oh same, it's just way, way. 362 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 2: More interesting than your typical crop field. 363 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Agree. Water Yeah, and I thought until yesterday that 364 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: was the only way to do it. 365 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 2: Nope, that's right. 366 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: Cranberries, didn't it. Cranberries that grow in water. 367 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, and like a bog. Yeah, that's deep water. You 368 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 2: have to wear waiters to harvest cranberries. As far as 369 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: the commercials for ocean spray that I've. 370 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: Seen say, yeah. 371 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: So after you harvest the rice, there's a lot of 372 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 2: ways to harvest it. One of the traditional ways is 373 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: to just use handsickles and cut the probably the top 374 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 2: half of the plant off. After that, you dry the 375 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 2: rice and what you have is called rough rice, and 376 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 2: that still has the hole on it. It's got what 377 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: the prote husk, which you'll sometimes see if you buy 378 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: a plant. There's these little holes. Those are rice hucks husks. 379 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: I guess they put them in for drainage maybe, I 380 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 2: don't know why else they would. But when you remove 381 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 2: just the husk and leave the rest of the rice alone, 382 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 2: like shucking an ear of corn, but really tiny, that's 383 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 2: essentially the rice husk. Once you take the husk off, 384 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: you got brown rice. 385 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, little tiny bits of cardboard ready for eating. 386 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm with you. It takes a lot for 387 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: me to make myself make brown rice when I have 388 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: the option of making sushi rice. Yeah, but it is 389 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: so much better for you. I know it's but I 390 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 2: don't know if either of us eed enough rice to 391 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 2: really matter. 392 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: I know, no, no, I mean any help problems I 393 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: have or not for eating white rice? 394 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 2: You know, but what about white rice? How do you 395 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 2: get white rice from brown rice? Because that's where you 396 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: get it from. 397 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: Well, another you got to go through another round of work, 398 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: basically and called the milling process that's going to remove 399 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: the brand. Sometimes they even if you see rice that 400 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: looks like just super pristine and shiny that might have 401 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: been polished in a factory somewhere with lucose. 402 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 2: Weird. 403 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: And then we talked about you know, some rice even 404 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: goes through the enriching process. 405 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 2: Would you like to go over those three ways again? Ah, 406 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 2: that's right, Okay, But. 407 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: You know, we're going to talk a little bit about 408 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: the downside of rice because anytime you're talking about like 409 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: these major crops or farm situations, it's not always the 410 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: greatest for the environment and it takes a lot of 411 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: water to grow rice, like you said, if it's not 412 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: done in a patty, just tons and tons of irrigation, 413 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: which makes it surprising that California, which suffers a lot 414 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: of drought, has about half a million acres of rice. 415 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you listen to our saltancy episode, that should 416 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 2: be an eye popping number to you. Yeah. That said, though, 417 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 2: rice production still requires less water than any kind of 418 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 2: meat production, any kind of nut production from what I understand, 419 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 2: and a lot of vegetables still use more water than 420 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 2: rice cultivation I guess worldwide. So water use is a thing. 421 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 2: Land use is another thing too, but greenhouse cases seem 422 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 2: to be probably the biggest problem with rice production. 423 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, this kind of is something that I would not 424 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 1: have considered. Again, I was just sort of naive to that. 425 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: I usually think of like factory farming of animals and 426 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: stuff as being big methane contributors. But when you have 427 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: a big flooded rice field, you're also going to have 428 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: a lot of microbes in there feeding off of decaying 429 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: plant matter, and that's going to create a lot of methane. 430 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was that big of a problem, 431 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: but apparently it is. 432 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 2: It must be because so much rice is cultivated worldwide 433 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 2: that all combined makes it a problem. One of the 434 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: things you can do to reduce methane emissions is to 435 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 2: drain the patties when the rice is at a growing 436 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: state where it doesn't need to be flooded, and then 437 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 2: when it needs it again, you can reintroduce the water. 438 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: Then you dry it again for harvesting. The problem is this, 439 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 2: and I love stuff like this, even though it's terrible. 440 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: I love it when you solve one problem and it 441 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 2: creates an equal and opposite problem. That's exactly what happens 442 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 2: with rice cultivation. When you dry out that paddy, it 443 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: exposes the soil and a bunch of nitrous oxide, which 444 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 2: is another greenhouse gas gets emitted. And so if you 445 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 2: just grow it just with soil, it's going to emit 446 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 2: nitrous oxide. It's going to be covered up with the 447 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 2: water and the paddy, and then when you dry it again, 448 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 2: it's going to release more nitrous oxide. So they're trying 449 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: to figure out like the balance of which one's worse, 450 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: you know, would it be better to just leave it 451 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: flooded all the time, would it be better to dry 452 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 2: it because you can take care of the methane, nitrous 453 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: oxide goes up. Take care of the nitrous oxide, the 454 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: methane goes up. But did you see that thing about 455 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 2: rice fish farming? 456 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: Is that like the seawater farming. 457 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 2: No, this is it's a little different. It's where you 458 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 2: actually you you grow fish, you like farm fish in 459 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 2: your rice paddy, and they actually help take care of 460 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 2: the methane problem by eating a lot of the algae 461 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 2: that would otherwise decompose. So the methane goes down, the 462 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 2: nitrous oxide emissions go down because the paddy's always flooded 463 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,959 Speaker 2: because you know, the fish need the water. And I 464 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: saw that it increases yields by ten to fifteen percent 465 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: because the fish are pooping and sore, the nitrogen cycle 466 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: is going a lot, but a lot more frequently. You 467 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 2: don't need to add as much fertilizer, if any. And 468 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: they're eating a lot of the pests, so there's a 469 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: fifty percent reduction in pests. And I think in some 470 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 2: if you do it right, you don't even need to 471 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: use pesticides in rice production. So growing fish with your 472 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: rice is like the way to save the planet. 473 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: What kind of fish do you know, I don't. 474 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 2: I don't think it matters. Probably a smallish fish because 475 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 2: there's a a few inches of water that you need 476 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 2: for rice paddies, So it wouldn't have it wouldn't be 477 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 2: like a giant carp you'd be you'd be up the creek, 478 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 2: I think, Or the carp would be if you tried 479 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: to grow carp in a fish, Patty. 480 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: Right, it wouldn't be say a marlin or great white shark. 481 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 2: No, no, but that would be something to see. 482 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: I did mention seawater rice there, you know, people efforting 483 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: to do that kind of thing to you know, grow 484 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: it in seawater. Obviously, it's got to be a situation 485 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: where they can get a rice variety that can tolerate 486 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: that salt content and the alkaline soil. But it's something 487 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: that they're looking into that has got a little bit 488 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: of promise I. 489 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 2: Think, yeah, because it reduces the land use, right, because 490 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 2: you're not using really valuable land for cultivating rice. Yeah. 491 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: There's also the matter of toxins too. I didn't realize 492 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 2: rice was such a downer, did you. 493 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: I did not. I didn't know about the toxins, and 494 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: I think specifically arsenic is one of the I think 495 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: like lead and cadmium also, but arsenic seems to be 496 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: the major offender. 497 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. And the reason why it's such a deal with 498 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: rice is rice absorbs at more than most crops for 499 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 2: some reason. The big downer about the whole thing is 500 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 2: that arsenic is most present in the germ and the brand. 501 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 2: So the type of rice that's most beneficial for you 502 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 2: health wise, brown rice is also the ones that have 503 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 2: the most arsenic. 504 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: Aha. 505 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 2: I found an article that asks if the benefits outweigh 506 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: the risk as far as arsenic and brown rice is 507 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 2: concerned twenty twenty three edition of Frontiers and Nutrition, and 508 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 2: they basically said, I don't know, we should do more 509 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 2: study on it. To eat what you want, bub yeah, 510 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 2: I guess, But basically they were like, we don't know. 511 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 2: Why would you even read this article, chump? 512 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: If you're seeking out safer rice, you know there are 513 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: people have done studies, consumer reports I think did some 514 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: testing for arsenic. Specifically, they found white basmadi in California, 515 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: India and Pakistan, and sushi rice from the United States, 516 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: maybe not intuitively, has the least amount of arsenic. If 517 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: you get rice from Arkansas, Louisiana or Texas, it's gonna 518 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: have higher levels of arsenic. 519 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's if your soil is more likely to be 520 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 2: contaminated by industrial metals, that rice is gonna suck it up. 521 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 2: And apparently California's soil is less contaminated by industrial metals 522 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: and some other states. So from what I could tell, 523 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 2: your best bet is California rice as far as arsenic 524 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 2: is concerned. 525 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know you rinsing the rice helps before 526 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: you cook it. Cooking it in the water and then 527 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: draining and even rinsing afterward can reduce the arsenic count 528 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: even more. But it's not like it's apparently it's not 529 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: enough arsenic to really do a ton of damage to you. 530 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: But the problem is is children that eat like a 531 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: lot of times, you know, you'll have like the processed 532 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: rice meal and baby food, and I think that stuff 533 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: you can ever tell how much that has been rinsed 534 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: or not. This might orthodonist Doctor Blake used to say, So, yeah, 535 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: it can be problematic for little bebes and toddlers. 536 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: It can be problematic for you too, like as a 537 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 2: grown up. And yeah, it's not like you would have 538 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,719 Speaker 2: to eat a lot of rice to hurt yourself with 539 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: say arsenic. But if you eat rice every day, which 540 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 2: a lot of people do, sure you can. And arsenic's 541 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: associated with multiple kinds of cancer, diabetes, cardio issues, and obesity. 542 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 2: So you don't really want a lot of arsenic. So 543 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: that is an issue with rice, everybody. Let's face it. 544 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,479 Speaker 1: Should we take a second break? Yeah, all right, we'll 545 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: take another break. Go over some lists of countries wheat right, 546 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: a lot, probably not a very surprising list, but that 547 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: another stuff right after. 548 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 2: This, Okay, Chuck, I'll give you ten guesses. What continent 549 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: produces the most rice? 550 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: Is this production? 551 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 2: Yes? Production? 552 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: My guess is China? 553 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 2: No continent? 554 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: Oh Asia, Yes, you got it right out of the gate. 555 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: Within that I would say China. 556 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd be right. China is the number one rice 557 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 2: producing country in Asia, followed by India. Well, that makes 558 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: sense because they both have a lot of land mass. 559 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 2: Bangladesh is a big eye popper because it's not very big, 560 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 2: but it's the third highest producing rice country in the world. 561 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's impressive. 562 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 2: But all ten top ten are Asian, whether Southeast Asian, 563 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 2: South Asian, or Asian proper. 564 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, I mentioned those states California, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Missouri, 565 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: and Arkansas produced the almost all the rice in the US, 566 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: which is about twenty billion pounds a year more than 567 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: I thought. Obviously nowhere close to being a top ten producer. 568 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: But as far as eating rice in the United States, 569 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: you're probably eating American rice unless you're going to like 570 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: a specialty store, because about eighty percent of the rice 571 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: sold and eaten in the US and ninety five percent 572 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: of sushi rice eaten in the US comes from US farms. 573 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: That's why when you go to a izakaya in America, 574 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: you'll frequently see somebody with a mouthful of rice changing us. 575 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: Hey, that's right. 576 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 2: Okay, what about the countries that eat the most rice. 577 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: That eat the most. 578 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 2: What continent would those be on all ten? 579 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to say Asia, but I'm also going 580 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: to drill down and say China just because of the 581 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: sheer amount of people. 582 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 2: Okay, yep, China's number one. Indian is number two, both 583 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: because they have a lot of people there. Bangladesh is 584 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: number three. Again they really love the rice. Yeah. But 585 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 2: in the top ten list, Nigeria is number ten of 586 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 2: the countries that eat the most rice, And there's something 587 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 2: about eating a lot of rice. It's impressive. Number one, 588 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: Bangladesh is number one for eating rice. The per capita 589 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 2: rice consumption per year equals five hundred and ninety two 590 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: pounds of rice per person, which is almost two pounds 591 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 2: of rice a day. And that's dry, uncooked rice that 592 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 2: they're counting. This isn't like the wet stuff. Yeah, and 593 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 2: like I said, it's impressive, but it also goes to 594 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: it goes to point out or underscore that the developing 595 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 2: status of a country like Bangladesh, because if you eat 596 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 2: tons of rice and you're getting a lot of your 597 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: calories from rice, it's because a lot of other foods 598 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 2: aren't available to you because your country is lower income. 599 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 2: So that's why Bangladesh, Cambodia, a Laos, they all eat 600 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 2: the most rice, in part because it's widely available, but 601 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 2: also in part because their economies are still developing or 602 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 2: aren't as developed as countries they eat less rice. 603 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's again those are per capita numbers for 604 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: that last list. 605 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. That reminds me though of when I was a 606 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 2: kid in like first, second, third grade. Maybe we would 607 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 2: once a year at school the school lunch would be 608 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 2: a cup of white rice with a little pad of 609 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 2: butter on it, so that it drove home like what 610 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 2: other kids around the world were eating for lunch that day. 611 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: Oh interesting. 612 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was kind of a nice in principle, 613 00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 2: but there were always at least one or two kids 614 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 2: who ate that and then also ate their lunch that 615 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 2: they brought from home to like little bastard. 616 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would say that pad of butter is 617 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: a bit of a cheat. 618 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 2: Probably probably, but still, I mean I definitely it gave 619 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 2: me paws. 620 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I like a little butter and some rice. 621 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,479 Speaker 1: I mean not when I'm cooking any kind of like 622 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,479 Speaker 1: you know, Asian style foods and stuff like that. I'm 623 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: not gonna put butter on sushi rice. But if you 624 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: give me a you know, a steak and a big 625 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: old glava Carolina gold, you can bet your bibby I'm 626 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: gonna throw a little butter on that. Salt and pepper. 627 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I never got into This was definitely not Carolina 628 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 2: gold rice that they were feeding us in styrofoam cups. 629 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: In first grade. It's probably what's the stuff in the bag, 630 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: the minute rice or whatever. 631 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, like Uncle Ben's or something. 632 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the only time we see that in 633 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: our house. We keep a stash for when the dogs 634 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: are tummy sick and you have to boil chicken and 635 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: you just have chicken and plain rice, and so we 636 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: have those bags that in like camping when I was 637 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: a kid. Is that evokes those memories all right? 638 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 2: Like would you just have your pockets full of loose rice? 639 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 2: That's how you'd hike it in. 640 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: So I'd hike it in. 641 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 2: Let's see what else anything else about this? Oh? I 642 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 2: want to point something out there. There is a study 643 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 2: in two thousand and five. Remember I talked about how 644 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 2: people eating rice, the countries that eat the most rice 645 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 2: also tend to be developing. Well, there was a study 646 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 2: from Tatori University. And the reason that stood out to 647 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 2: me is because you and me taught English and tooty 648 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 2: at a high school. Yeah, oh cool, it's very rural area. 649 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 2: She taught it at like a technical school, technical high school, 650 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 2: but she loved it. She went over there for a 651 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 2: year as part of this program. But this Tatori University 652 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 2: study basically found that rice is rice consumption is dropping 653 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: off in Asian countries because wealth is expanding in Asian countries, 654 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 2: and they're saying, hey, we love rice, but we also 655 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: want that steak. 656 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: Like Chuck said, you know, every time you throw a 657 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: little another Yumi tidbit out, she becomes that much more interesting. 658 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: And I realize how much more interesting both Yumi and 659 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: Emily are than either one of us. 660 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 2: Yes, it's true, I'm kind of a slope compared to 661 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 2: Yumi for sure. 662 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, congratulations to both of us because 663 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: they're both wonderful, interesting women. I mean, Yumi had her 664 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: her graffiti tag was apothecary for God's sake. 665 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:42,399 Speaker 2: Pretty great, It's amazing. We already took a second break, right, 666 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 2: this is the third act we're in. 667 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're in the third act. So we can have 668 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: a little fun with some of these rice dishes if 669 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 1: you want. 670 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead and fire that gun. 671 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: Well, rice, obviously, and a lot of dishes worldwide is 672 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: going to be like a bass layer for something, maybe 673 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: a curry, maybe a stewed meat or vegeta. Maybe you're 674 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: gonna stir fry something and throw it on top of 675 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: that rice. That's a great way to eat rice, not 676 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: just as a just a regular old plain side dish, 677 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 1: even though that's fine too, But I've had quite a 678 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: few of these. I have had jollafrice, Oh yeah, at 679 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: African restaurants. Yeah, it's got it's you know, got like 680 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: stewed tomatoes, onions, you know, peppers. A lot of these 681 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: are kind of similar around the world because it's you know, 682 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: it's meager, honest ingredients like you know, garlic and thyme 683 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: and ginger and rice and tomatoes and onions like stuff 684 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: you get from the ground. Sometimes you can add meat 685 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: and vegetables. But jollafrice is good on its own. 686 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. I looked up a recipe of that, and I'm like, 687 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 2: that is something I'm going to try. 688 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 689 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 2: There's also berryanni. 690 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: Love it. 691 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 2: I am not more I'm more of a curry guy, 692 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 2: so I don't get berryani when I go to Indian 693 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 2: restaurants because it's a little dryer. Yeah, but it's got 694 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 2: some nice flavors to it, for sure, when I have 695 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 2: had it. But it's a rice dish. It's got rice, spices, 696 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,919 Speaker 2: some vegetables, usually some kind of meat in there. Yeah, 697 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 2: it's good. 698 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 1: You're a red curry guy, green red green. 699 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 2: Maybe if I'm at a tie place, but I'm a 700 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 2: tikka masala and buttered chicken person. Man, I could eat 701 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 2: that all day long, every day. 702 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I mean I've said it before, and I 703 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,919 Speaker 1: think it was our Chinese food episode. Like, I could 704 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: subsist entirely on Asian cuisine of the time and be 705 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: as happy as I've ever been. I don't need the 706 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: other foods. 707 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 2: Also shout out sog sog pen yours fine, but chicken 708 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 2: sog is. 709 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: It's the best. Yeah, I did mention Paia earlier. I 710 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 1: love it. If you aren't familiar, it is a Spanish dish. 711 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: I think the Moors brought it over the moops and 712 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: it is that's right. Oh my god, what was that? 713 00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 2: That was from Seinfeld when George played Trio. 714 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,240 Speaker 3: That's right, that's right, the moops No, sorry, the moops 715 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 3: pie is delicious, though it's you know, you cook it 716 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 3: in a very specific flat bottomed round pan if you 717 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 3: don't have one, like I've cooked it in just cast 718 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 3: iron skillets. 719 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: It's got that clam juice. That's where a lot of 720 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,320 Speaker 1: that seafoody flavor comes from. Depending on what kind of 721 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 1: seafood you want, there could be clams, could be shrimp, 722 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: could be scallops, could be all that stuff, some saffron, 723 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 1: some like tomatoes that stew up nicely. It's just delicious. 724 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: I love a pie. It's it's usually not the kind 725 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: of thing you can just get a serving of. You 726 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: get like a larger pie for a table. 727 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 2: That clam juice thing, didn't that remind me? Didn't you 728 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,240 Speaker 2: used to make or maybe still do, make Bloody Mary's 729 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 2: with clamato. 730 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, that's the only way for me. 731 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 2: And that's a Canadian thing. And I can't remember what 732 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 2: they call it black really, sir, that's what it is. 733 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: Oh, I've heard of that. I didn't know it was Canadian. 734 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 2: There's something. There's another rice dish that I've had before. 735 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 2: I don't know if you have. It's called sushi, and 736 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 2: it's made with that short grain rice season with some vinegar. 737 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 2: Like I said. But it actually, and I know we 738 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 2: talked about this in the sushi episode. It grew out 739 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 2: of a way of preserving fish in vinegar. They would 740 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 2: jam some uncooked rice in there with it too, pack 741 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,840 Speaker 2: it in there, and I guess somebody said there's a 742 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 2: better way to do this, and that's where sushi came from. 743 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 2: But you can still get that original version called Nara sushi, 744 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 2: which I really want to try. I like pickled anything. Man. 745 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 2: You could pickle an old shoe and I'd be like, 746 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 2: I'll need a little of that. 747 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: Sure, we're not going to go down the list of 748 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: rice noodle dishes, but we should point out that rice 749 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: noodles are a thing. We should mention a few rice 750 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: desserts because a really really nice rice pudding, to me, 751 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: is one of the more delicious things you can eat. 752 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm more of a bread pudding guy, but yeah, 753 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 2: I'll eat rice pudding as well. 754 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: That's when you cook the rice with the milk and sugar, 755 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: and usually there's like vanilla or cinnamon or something like 756 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:01,959 Speaker 1: that in there. 757 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 2: I would eat just about anything with condensed milk. 758 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good stuff. 759 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 2: Oh I have a little tip for you, Chuck. You 760 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 2: may found this stuff. It's ube condensed milk. 761 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 1: Okay. 762 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 2: It is the greatest flavor you will ever put in 763 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 2: your mouth. It's insane how good it tastes. 764 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: Is it? Do I have to go to like an 765 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: Asian mart to get it? 766 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 2: Or is it? You probably order it online? But yeah, 767 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 2: you're gonna find it at an Asian store. More than 768 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 2: maybe target. Okay, there's also mango sticky rice, which uses 769 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 2: that sticky glutenous rice which, by the way, it doesn't 770 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 2: have gluten, it's just glutenous, meaning sticky, starchy. 771 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,399 Speaker 1: Gluten with an eye yea, yeah. 772 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,399 Speaker 2: Have you heard of polish rice cake or polish rice cake. 773 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. 774 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: I had not until this. 775 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 2: It's basically rice and condensed milk and some other stuff. 776 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 2: But it's a cake with rice. It looks pretty good. 777 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: Well, we should talk about mochi at least, because mochi 778 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 1: is a cake and that is made from the glutenous rice. 779 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 1: Is well, and if you've ever, you know, had mochi 780 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,800 Speaker 1: in the US, it's probably a little different from Japan 781 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: because it's not always a sweet thing there, But in 782 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 1: the US it's usually wrapped around ice cream. 783 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 2: As most things are. 784 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can buy like the little mochi ice 785 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: cream balls or whatever here. 786 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're good. A lot of times. In Japan they'll 787 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 2: have like sweet red bean paste inside. That's a traditional 788 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 2: mochi there too, but apparently it's references the rabbit in 789 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 2: the moon. In Japan, it's a rabbit in the moon 790 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 2: rather than a man in the moon, but he's making 791 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 2: mochi up there. 792 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: Oh I never knew that. 793 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 2: Yep, And we can't not mention horn shatta real quick. Okay, yeah, 794 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 2: I had. 795 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: I went to a I had a horse shot a 796 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,439 Speaker 1: flight in Mexico City one time on a food tour. 797 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: Oh nice, And it was my first kind of real 798 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 1: exposure to it that I think maybe my first real exposure, 799 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: and man, it was so different and delicious. 800 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. It's it's rice soaked in evaporated milk, so you know, 801 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 2: I'd like it some cinnamon, some vanilla, and then you eventually, 802 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 2: after it's mush, you strain it so that it gets 803 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,720 Speaker 2: any of the grid out. So it's kind of a thickish, 804 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 2: milkyish drink that's amazing on its own. But if you're 805 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,280 Speaker 2: into things like rum or bourbon, they mike really well 806 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 2: with hornchhok especially in wintertime. 807 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:21,760 Speaker 1: Very interesting. 808 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you'll thank me later. 809 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I'll pre thank you now because yeah, I 810 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: didn't know that was a thing. Oh. I mean, where 811 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: do you get horchata here? 812 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 2: You can buy horn shotta. Those people make it and 813 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 2: sell it here in the United States, meaning companies or whatever. 814 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 2: But it's actually not that hard to make. You might 815 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 2: be better off making it yourself. 816 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: All right, I'll give it a shot. I know that 817 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: this stuff we had in Mexico City was like really 818 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,399 Speaker 1: really authentic and great. 819 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 2: Yeaplenty, there's plenty of recipes. It's like five or six ingredients, 820 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 2: all of them easily obtainable. So I say make your 821 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 2: own chuck. 822 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: All right, I'll give it a try. 823 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,760 Speaker 2: That reminds me, what did you think of cherry pop tarts? 824 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 2: Cherry frosted pop tarts? 825 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:02,799 Speaker 3: Ah? 826 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: Yes, follow up? I texted Josh photos. I immediately went 827 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: to the store. I bought the cherry frosted pop tarts, 828 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: and of course I had to get the cinnamon brown 829 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: sugar cinnamon. Boy, those cherries are beeping delicious. 830 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I told you They're way better than strawberry, aren't they? 831 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,439 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean they are, They're way better. I did 832 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: my butter trick, believe it or not. I've I think 833 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: there were four packs in each, so eight total packs, 834 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: sixteen total pop tarts. And I've only eaten six total 835 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: pop tarts, so three packs. 836 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 2: That's nice. 837 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: Since then, I'm really you. You just can't go in 838 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 1: there and house those things in two days. 839 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 2: You can pretty easily. But I think you're showing a 840 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 2: lot of restraint here. 841 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm showing restraint. 842 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, way to go, man. And are you enjoying them 843 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 2: more than if you just ate them all at once? Nah? 844 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 2: That's awesome. You got anything else? 845 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 1: I got nothing else? Grow rice? 846 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, go grow some rice, make your own horshata, make 847 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 2: some sushi, make some sticky rice, make some curries. Just 848 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 2: do all that stuff some jalla rice. Get to it. 849 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 2: And while you're making all that, we'll just go ahead 850 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 2: and read some listener. 851 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: Now, well this is from Ted. Ted wrote in because Ted, 852 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: I'll just read it. You responded to Ted. You're gonna 853 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: send Ted something, which is very nice of you. 854 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 3: Nice. 855 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, are recently finished listening to the full stuff 856 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 1: you should know catalog? Yeah, big deal for the fifth time. 857 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,320 Speaker 1: That's a big deal, Ted. 858 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 2: For sure. I think it's a big deal if you 859 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 2: listen to it all once. 860 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 861 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, you're doing your new thing. Yeah, okay, 862 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 2: I like it. 863 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,919 Speaker 1: See it's attached screenshot for proof, Ted, We didn't need proof. 864 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,760 Speaker 1: We take you out your word. At least I finished 865 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,800 Speaker 1: my most recent listen. Guys, Thanks for all the wonderful hours. 866 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 1: As an appreciation, here are the five things I most 867 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 1: like about stuff you should know. Number one, Josh and 868 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: Chuck have character arcs as their lives have changed over 869 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 1: the seventeen years, and they're not afraid to share some 870 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: of that personal stuff. That's a big time character arcs. 871 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean seventeen years. 872 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, think about what's happened to anyone over their 873 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,320 Speaker 1: last seventeen years, A lot of stuff. 874 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 875 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 1: Number two, Josh and Chuck don't talk over each other 876 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,319 Speaker 1: like many other podcasters do. We don't often sometimes we do, 877 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: but yeah, we usually let each other go right. 878 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, we try to. I mean every once in a while, 879 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 2: there's a stumble here there, but no, we're pretty good 880 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 2: about that. We always have been. 881 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. But boy, some podcasts, even some of my favorite ones, 882 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 1: at times I'm like, what is going on? There's like 883 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 1: three or four people talking. 884 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 2: Oh, you can't do that, can't do that. 885 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: Number three, I've learned more about movies and popular music 886 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,120 Speaker 1: by listening to stuff you should Know than actually by 887 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 1: watching movies or listening to music. 888 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. I like to think that we have imparted some 889 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 2: pretty cool recommendations over the years. 890 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just noticed. Ted said he'd send in five 891 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: things he loved the most. There's only four, So I 892 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:13,799 Speaker 1: guess you. 893 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 2: Know, Ted, this is beautiful because I know what the 894 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 2: last one is. Oh. 895 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 1: I bet that's why he did it. The number four. 896 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: Josh and Chuck never make it all the way through 897 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 1: a list, of course, Ted, I'm so dense, I didn't 898 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 1: even get the joke. 899 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 2: It was a great That was a great arcane in 900 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 2: joke for Stuff you should Note, Ted, Bravo. 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