1 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast, everybody. Amy and TJ both here, 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: and I'm excited about the day's podcast. How about you, TJ. H. 3 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: I'll get back to you here shortly about it. They'll 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 2: know how this is. 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: Going to go TVD. And the reason why he said 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: that is because we actually talked about this topic together 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: and both agreed upon it before we sat down. It 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: started and correct me if I'm wrong here, TJ. When 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: we were on text with each other and we were 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: exploring our feelings, and you suggested, because yes we know 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: each other, Yes we'd known each other for a long time, 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean we knew everything about each other. 13 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: And you said to me one night, ask me anything, 14 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: and I'll answer it. I'll be honest, and nothing's off 15 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: the table, and it's funny. Even as somebody who interviewed 16 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: people for a living, I was intimidated. I didn't know 17 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: what to ask, what not to ask, and so I 18 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: just kind of went for it. And you were extremely honest, 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: and it was a nice way to further our relationship, 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: to deepen our relationship, would you agree. 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: I didn't realize it at the time because I thought 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: you'd take advantage of something like that. Because I meant 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: it every time I said it, and I had to 24 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: egg you on and push you to ask me a question. 25 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: But yeah, you're of all people, let's know about nothing 26 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 2: I'm hiding from you, so I don't need to hold 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 2: my tongue or be careful. So it was a relief 28 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: to be asked anything by you. 29 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: We're going to take turns, and I will put myself 30 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: in the hot seat. But this episode, I actually realized 31 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: as I sat down, I got a ton of questions 32 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to, and we agreed that 33 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: we wouldn't obviously let each other know what the other 34 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: is going to ask, So I don't even know where 35 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna go with your questions, or what themes you're 36 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: gonna have, or any of that. And the same goes 37 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: for you. And you ready to get started? Yeah, all right, 38 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: let's jump in. Let's dive in head first. How would 39 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: you describe your life to someone who didn't know you? 40 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: A life worth living that has the highest of highs 41 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 2: and the lowest of lows, but not one I would 42 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: ever take back. It was full of opportunity and love 43 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: and family. And I took those lessons with me and 44 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: led to great success, but then some of my greatest failures. 45 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: Those are the lessons I had to learn on my 46 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: own and not things I got from the family and 47 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: love coming up. So I have lived a a wonderful 48 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 2: life that I wish everybody had all the highs, and 49 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: actually I wish some of the lows because they were 50 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 2: some of the biggest lessons. 51 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: What do you need that you don't currently have? 52 00:02:53,919 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 2: Probably a scheduled colin. My sister got on to me 53 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: of this two days ago, sent the text as if 54 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: I had one. I said no, and she said, well, 55 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: you're getting older, you need to get one. So that's 56 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: the only thing I can think of. 57 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: I like what Tish asked you to do. That's good advice. 58 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: What from your childhood would you say shaped you the most. 59 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 2: The most is a tough one. Maybe my experience my 60 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 2: time internal Arkansas country, little town about twenty miles outside 61 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: of where I grew up. That's where my granddad was, 62 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: and I was very close to him and coming up, 63 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: and I spent so much time in that back and 64 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: forth and that family element internal Arkansas that I think 65 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: so much of what I saw and experienced their shaped 66 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: to me. I think about uncles, and aunts and cousins 67 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: and things that I do that I got from them 68 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: that I don't even realize. So I would say just 69 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: having my granddad, that guy and such close proximity to me, 70 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: a guy who only had a third grade education but 71 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: got seven kids through college, and who was a great 72 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: entrepreneur and a businessman and did well for himself, and 73 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 2: he was just that experience is huge for me in 74 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: my childhood. 75 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: You have a quote from him on your arm one 76 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: of your tattoos. 77 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: That's a long story. The tattoo only says make them 78 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: all happy. And that's a reminder. I lost my grandad 79 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, but he was maybe the closest person 80 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: to that point that I had lost. But a childhood 81 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: memory of mine sitting out a window, I was probably 82 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: six seven years old and just sitting at his feet 83 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 2: around the holidays and he's just, you know, he's holding 84 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: court and just talking trash like it always does. And 85 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: he said to me, why would you ever get married 86 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 2: and try to make one woman happy when you can 87 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 2: stay single and make them all happy. Now that's my 88 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: granddad And I was six or seven. Oh my gosh, 89 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 2: he was just messing around, being silly and joking, but 90 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: it was to this day a memory from birth to 91 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: eighteen years old. I don't have more vividly than that one. 92 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 2: And it was just a very special and cool and 93 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 2: funny moment with my granddad. And I got the tattoo 94 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: after I lost him in to honor them. 95 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: What is your first memory? 96 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: Falling down the steps in kindergarten at a circus field 97 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: trip and a big dude in cowboy boots having to 98 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 2: stand at the railing as I was going down the 99 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: step to keep me from falling over down maybe a 100 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: few stories to the level below. That is my first 101 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: childhood memory. Falling, Yeah, falling down some steps and being 102 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: saved by a white guy and cowboy boots. No wonder, 103 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: I'm messed up. 104 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. It's funny because they say your first 105 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: memory is usually a traumatic one and that's why you 106 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: remember first one. I remember, Wow, Okay, were you born 107 00:05:59,120 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: with swagger? 108 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: Get my mom in near and ask for that. My 109 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: guess is yes, I was born. My due date was 110 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: August sixteenth, nineteen seventy seven. That will sound familiar to 111 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: some folks because that ends up being the day that 112 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 2: Elvis Presley died August sixteenth, nineteen seventy seven, so I 113 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: always know the anniversary of his death. It was forty 114 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: seven years this year because I'll be forty seven. But 115 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: I ended up being born on August nineteenth, so I 116 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: always joke I just wanted Elvis to have his moment. 117 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: I didn't want to come into the world and try 118 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: to take take some of the spotlight away. So I 119 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: guess I had swagger from birth. If you want to 120 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: put that story together. 121 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: Maybe you're Elvis reincarnated. Whoa thinking of that? He went 122 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: upstairs to meet the big guy and then came back down. 123 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: You never know. I think it's possible. What is something 124 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: that you would like to change about yourself? 125 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:54,679 Speaker 2: My sleeping habits, that's just a health habit I would 126 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 2: like to change. I'm getting better about it, but I 127 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: have a hard I have a difficult time forgiving and 128 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 2: giving people a second chance who aren't already in my 129 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: circle of my world. Like I meet new people or whatever, 130 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: somebody I'm not that close to. I don't they screw 131 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: me once and I don't necessarily let that person back in. 132 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: But I want to do better about being more forgiving. Okay, 133 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: that's what I'm. 134 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: Saying, what is something you'd like to change about me? 135 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: I don't want to change anything about you, baby, You're perfect. 136 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: I think you said that a little too quickly. 137 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: That is my answer. 138 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: I won't follow up, what do you miss most about 139 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: your life? Before the tabloids released those pictures of. 140 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: Us anonymity, there was a an ease, I should say, 141 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: I think a complacency, which you can argue that that's 142 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: all what we all want. We all say we want adventure, 143 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: we want something new, we want but truly we just 144 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: we'd like to be comfortable and not stress the hell 145 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: out all the time. But I think there was an 146 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: ease and a comfort just generally speaking to life in 147 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: the direction it was going. That's that I think I 148 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: let sometimes creep back into my head. But I would 149 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: never go back to that. 150 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: Well, I was just going to ask the next question, 151 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: would you go back to your old job if you could? 152 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: That is, there's a lot of ifs in there, and 153 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: does that include working with you? Does that include working 154 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: with some of the same folks that are still there 155 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: that would involve that would have all a lot, But 156 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: generally speaking, I can't I can't see a path of 157 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: doing that now. I shouldn't say a path. Obviously, nobody's 158 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 2: over there is thinking about us coming back. But I 159 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: don't like I couldn't set up a scenario that actually 160 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: makes sense. Okay, Uh. 161 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: What is the biggest misconception people have about you? 162 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: That I'm outgoing, that I am the life of the 163 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: party and an extrovert. 164 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I would agree with that. What is the hardest 165 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: decision you've ever had to make? 166 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: The don't know. There have been a lot of difficult 167 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: decisions that shaped life and would have changed the course 168 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: of my life altogether. I had to make a decision 169 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: to where I was even gonna go to college. I 170 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 2: had to make a decision to take that job or 171 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: not that job. I had to make a decision to 172 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: get married. I had to make this decision to get divorced. 173 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: Made those decisions twice, actually right those old things came. 174 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 2: I think one of the biggest turning points in my 175 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: life that I always wonder about is I had an 176 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 2: opportunity to go back to Little Rock, to my home 177 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 2: state at least Arkansas, and be main anchor at a 178 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: station there. And at the same time I had an 179 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: offer to go to CNN to be an anchor and 180 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: I actually that was a fifty to fifty shot, and 181 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 2: a lot of people thought I was crazy, and one 182 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: of my best friends at the time I ended up 183 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 2: having to talk me out of Arkansas saying, look, they'll 184 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: always be there. CNN doesn't always come calling, is what 185 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 2: he told me. But I was at that point in 186 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: my life to where I was twenty five twenty no, no, no, twenty, 187 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 2: I was twenty eight. I was twenty eight at the time, 188 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: twenty eight years old, willing to go back to Little 189 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: Rock and be the big fish in a small pond 190 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: and live out a quieter existence. I was willing to 191 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: do that, and I almost did it. So that was 192 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: a very hard decision that I think back to and wow, 193 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 2: that really really changed would have changed to the direction 194 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 2: of my life in a lot of ways. 195 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that certainly what I've What would you say is 196 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: your biggest turnoff? I'm talking about when you are. 197 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 2: Dating someone smoking I can't deal with. 198 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: Oh I did know the answer to that. 199 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, this non starter. 200 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 1: I was trying to ask questions I didn't know the 201 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: answer to, but I actually knew the answer to that. Yeah, 202 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: just forgot all right, what's your biggest turn on. 203 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: If a woman can't put on that sounds weird to 204 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: be sitting here with my girlfriend talking about if this woman. 205 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: If I'm to ask the question, it's fair if she 206 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: can't put on jeans and a white T shirt and 207 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: belly up to the bar, have a draft beer and 208 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: watch a football game on a Saturday. We're not gonna work. 209 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: Out, but if she does, it's a good start, all right. 210 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: That's a point in my corner. What do you look 211 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: for in a partner? 212 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: Like? 213 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: What are the qualities that matter to you the most? 214 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: You have to There has to be a at this point. 215 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: We all say we want to be happy and seeking happiness, 216 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 2: but I find it to be peace and anybody that 217 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 2: disrupts my piece is a problem for me these days. 218 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 2: So what I look for. I look for somebody who 219 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 2: is self aware, self confident, certainly not clingy. I guess 220 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: independent is one way to say that. But you just 221 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 2: can't disrupt my piece. I need someone who is comfortable 222 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: with who she is because I don't need to have 223 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 2: to deal with you and your issues. You have to. 224 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: I learned that later on in life with so many 225 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 2: relationships partners I've had the problem is I'm not healthy 226 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 2: enough to help anybody else, So I need somebody who 227 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: is in her own good place so it doesn't disrupt 228 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: the work I've done and the piece I have finally 229 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 2: been able to get. 230 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: This sounds like an interview question, but I'm actually curious 231 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: what the answer is. What would you tell twenty two 232 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: year old TJ just getting out of. 233 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 2: College, have a good time, homie, have a good time. Absolutely, 234 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 2: what did go get them? Have a good time? Enjoy yourself? 235 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: I can say is you know, look, I'll be careful, 236 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: do the best you can. Try not to hurt yourself 237 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: if I hurt anybody else. But other than that, I can't. 238 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 2: I would not be sitting here with you, the love 239 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: of my life, if that twenty two year old TJ 240 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 2: took my advice and did anything different. Yeah, you gotta 241 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: go on that path and go on that journey, and 242 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: you don't know where you're gonna end up. 243 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: So I won't ask the questions do you have any regrets, 244 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: because the answer would be no. 245 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: The only one is I kind of regret that I 246 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: didn't continue playing football out of junior high school. It 247 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 2: sounds crazy, but I was. I stuck with basketball. It's 248 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 2: already always a pretty good basketball player, and I had 249 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 2: some smaller college opportunities out of high school. But as 250 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 2: good as I was in basketball, I was a better 251 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: football player. And if I actually broke my ankle, and 252 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 2: I said to hell with this after I broke my ankle, 253 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: but if I had continued with football, I kind of 254 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: wonder I wouldn't call it a regret. But that's the 255 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 2: one thing. 256 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: Do you think we would have been friends in high school? 257 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 2: I should qualify that by saying where were we attending 258 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 2: high school? Some neighborhoods, some blocks, some cities. Maybe we 259 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: would have never been rolling with the same crowd, but 260 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: generally too, I think what your question is, yes, what 261 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: we would have cut up and clowned and gotten in 262 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: a lot of trouble, But yeah, personality wise, and you 263 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: and I, yeah we would have been fine. 264 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: I think we would have been the kids who were 265 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: separated in class for talking to You always said, but 266 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: I thought you were going to take the opportunity to 267 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: point out that you were in middle school when I 268 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: was in high school. 269 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 2: But uh no, you said, would we have been good 270 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 2: in high school together? 271 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: I just thought you might take the opportunity. 272 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: Oh, it's fun and it was college. You were in 273 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: college when I was in junior high school. No, we 274 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: did some numbers. 275 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, because junior high school to you was ninth grade 276 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: and that's seventh or nine. Yeah, I see that was 277 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: different for me. Middle school was six to eight. So 278 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: in my world, I was you were in high school. 279 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: When I was in When you were a freshman in 280 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: college was what. 281 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: Year nineteen ninety one? 282 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: You know what I was doing. I was in Junior 283 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: High West Junior High in West Memphis, Arkansas. Yes, home 284 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: of the Blue Imps. That's where I was when you 285 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: were freshman in college. So wow, I guess I did 286 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: have swagger right. 287 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: All right? I would tease some of the questions I'm 288 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: going to ask you, but I don't want you to 289 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: prep for them. So stay tuned. We'll be right back. 290 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back everyone, TJ. Remaining on a hot seat, and 291 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just dig right in. So what do you 292 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: worry about most? 293 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: TJ? Uh bean being okay? My health and business and 294 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 2: professional success? 295 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: What is something you could say right now that would 296 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: surprise me? 297 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 2: I say that surprises you. You would be surprised to know. 298 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: That. 299 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: As soon as we get done with our work today, 300 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: in this podcast that I need to take up an 301 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: issue with you from an email that I sent you earlier. 302 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: Great, that just sounds so much fun, Like maybe I'm 303 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: going to extend this even further. 304 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: My response is you asked, can't wait for that? 305 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: All right? Who would you like to interview most on 306 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: this podcast? 307 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: Diane Warren, Jimmy Allen, Matt, and Rachel. I'll leave it 308 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: at that. You said who is one? But those are 309 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: three that popped into three or four that popped into 310 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: my mind immediately. All right, and I say, Matt and Rachel. 311 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: Maybe some do know, but Matt, Matt James, we will 312 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: I have him on with Rachel. I'm actually looking forward 313 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: to it they having that conversation with him. 314 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're good people, and I think we've had some 315 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: shared experiences. What is your most embarrassing moment? 316 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 2: Most? There have been a lot of embarrassing moments. I 317 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: picked one, but all right, I'll pick the one in 318 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 2: which I was new to k In TV out in 319 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,959 Speaker 2: the Bay Area, the NBC station out there. I was 320 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: fairly new. I was filling in for the main anchor 321 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 2: on the late news and they did not update the 322 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: prompter at the top of the show. His name was 323 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 2: still in the prompter, and I introduced myself by calling 324 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: myself his name. 325 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: I have heard that story of before, but it's always 326 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: good to repeat. I didn't I forgot you were going 327 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: to go there, But yes. 328 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: I didn't know it was. But that's the most embarrassing 329 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 2: thing that's come to mind. 330 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: Is there a video of that anywhere? 331 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know it was tapes and whatnot 332 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: back then, so it's probably long gone, but. 333 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: Beta tapes or something, so man, that would have been 334 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: fun to watch. All right. I don't know the answer 335 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: to this. Do you care what people think about you? 336 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 2: Yes? We all do. We can't help it. If anybody 337 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 2: says no, they don't, then well I think it's rare 338 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 2: that people don't care what people think about them, but 339 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 2: I think everybody does. It's just a matter of how 340 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 2: much are you willing to adjust who you are to 341 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 2: try to be liked? And that's I guess that's where 342 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: it stops. I care up to that point. 343 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna ask how much do you care? 344 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: How much does it affect you? 345 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 2: Not very much these days, because I don't know what 346 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: people think of me, because I don't spend time reading anything, 347 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: as you know. But I obviously I'm aware that folks 348 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 2: out there will continue to say particular things about us, 349 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: and there'll be a narrative that's some a narrative that 350 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 2: some won't ever get away from. But care, Yeah, And 351 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: we have to care to a certain degree more in 352 00:18:55,359 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 2: that we actually work in public life to where what 353 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 2: somebody thinks of you or somebody we've seen it a 354 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: hashtag costs people's jobs and careers and opportunities. And we'll 355 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 2: think some think that's okay, and some deserve that, an 356 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: others say some don't. But the point just being it's 357 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,479 Speaker 2: what people think of us is not just a personal impact. 358 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 2: It can be a professional one. 359 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: What would you say is your worst habit. 360 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 2: Worst habit, worst habit, worst habit? I have a bad 361 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: habit of blank ah worse. I mean, oh god, I mean, 362 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of the habits have bad. A 363 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 2: sleeping habit. Not sleeping is not a habit. 364 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: Well, it can be, and it kind of is for you. 365 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 2: But that's awful. It's it's there's a countdown clock going 366 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 2: for me every single day that's going to expire at 367 00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 2: about four thirty am. So the closer I get to 368 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: that time, is how much sleep I'm going to lose. 369 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: So if it's ten o'clock at night, eleven o'clock at night, midnight, 370 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 2: some people can go to bed at midnight and this 371 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: I'll just sleep in until seven or eight. I go 372 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 2: to bed at midnight. I go to bed at one, 373 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 2: doesn't matter. I am getting up at four point thirty. 374 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: So I have this kind of countdown in my head 375 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 2: every single day. And you've seen this. I don't have 376 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: to set my alarm. I just pop up. And so 377 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: I don't know how that's a habit, that's a that's 378 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 2: a health habit I need to change. But that's an 379 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: awful one. 380 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: And that countdown clock does not help. Isn't that just 381 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: anxiety producing? 382 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 2: Well, it probably keeps me from falling asleep faster. I 383 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 2: think a lot of people can at least relate to 384 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: staring at like it's midnight and that, oh god, I 385 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: have to get up at five, and then you're so 386 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 2: stressed that you're missing sleep that you can't sleep. So 387 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily have that of anxiety about it. 388 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 4: What is your biggest pet peeve about other people? Folks 389 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 4: that stand on an escalator. We'll get that twice as 390 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 4: fas as folks if you just walk. 391 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: Okay. So I wrote an escalator down with you one 392 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: time and you said to me, this isn't a ride. 393 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 2: It's not an amusement park ride. 394 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: I was confused, and You're like, what are you waiting on? 395 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: Move? Yeah, that must have been early on because you 396 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 2: know now now I know, do not stand on. 397 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: The escalator when you're with TJ. What are you most 398 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: afraid of? 399 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 2: I am a I am afraid of. I guess all 400 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 2: my fears have to do with sabine right, have to 401 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 2: do with family, have to do with health, have to 402 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 2: do with those things. But in day to day life, 403 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: I don't I've gotten away from that. And I used 404 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: to be that queste and five years ago would have 405 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: gotten a word to spawned a much different answer. But 406 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: it seems weird to be at a place where I'm 407 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: not daily or generally fearful or worried or scared of something. 408 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: Fear I don't know. I mean, I guess I'm supposed 409 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess I'm not supposed to say 410 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 2: I fear death, not necessarily. I mean, I don't think 411 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 2: about it like that I don't know. I don't know what. 412 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: I fear you're fearless. I won't say that, I mean 413 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 2: because I always think you right. This courage is is 414 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: is understanding, feeling, acknowledging the fear, and then doing it anyway. 415 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 2: I would like to think that. I mean, even this 416 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: venture of what we're doing here, there was a little 417 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: fearful of trying something new. But I don't necessarily think 418 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 2: that's what you mean. That sounds a smaller thing. But 419 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 2: I don't know what on a regular basis I fear 420 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 2: that's one I actually don't know. 421 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: All right, honest answer there, Other than smoking, what would 422 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: be a relationship deal breaker for you? Other than well, 423 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: because that's what you had said before, a turnoff? 424 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 2: Oh, other than smoking? I mean, try something. Is that 425 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 2: a challenge you rich your best shot? Other than a turnoff, 426 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 2: a turnoff and getting into a relationship or versus getting out, 427 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: I'm not thinking of it. 428 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like being in a relationship with somebody 429 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: and could somebody do something that is a relationship deal 430 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: breaker for you? Asking for a friend? 431 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: Um, I think there is a trust element having to 432 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 2: do with right, you told me it's not a deal breaker, 433 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 2: but you told me something not long ago that you 434 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: had never told me, because you revealed to someone that 435 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 2: we were dating, and you hadn't told me that you 436 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: did that ahead of time, even though I'd asked you before. 437 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 2: We talked about it plenty, and you never told me 438 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 2: that those types of like, I feel like that was 439 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 2: a betrayal of a friendship, even more so than a 440 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 2: betrayal of the relationship, and that I don't want that 441 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 2: stuff to stack up. Yeah, so that would drive me 442 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 2: crazy because then everything I'm thinking, Well, I asked her 443 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 2: not to tell her parents that, and she did it. Anyway, Well, 444 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 2: I asked her to do this and she did It. 445 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 2: Is those little little things that would break down to 446 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: trust certainly that I've formed with you over a decade. 447 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: Now, yep, okay, that makes sense. What is the most 448 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: meaningful compliment you've. 449 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 2: Received being a good daddy? 450 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: That makes sense, and you are a very good daddy. 451 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: What would you say is your biggest insecurity? 452 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: I have bad feet ding That was just a have. 453 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: A very bad toe. 454 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: We know, we saw only said that to bye some time. 455 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: That's okay, I'm going to be doing the same thing. 456 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: Come on with a real answer. 457 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: What s biggest insecurity because you don't seem like a 458 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: very insecure person at all. In fact, I feel like 459 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: you are one of the most secure people I've ever met, 460 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: and yet I know you're human, So you have to 461 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: have some sort of insecurity that pecks away at you 462 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: a little bit here and there. 463 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 2: I'm insecure about, you know what. And this made me 464 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: have something to do with our our business right for 465 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 2: so long, for too long, I attached my worth, my value, 466 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 2: my identity to the accolades or the adoration I was 467 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 2: getting publicly. So when that goes away in a way 468 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 2: it did to where we got more famous than ever, 469 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 2: but not for what our jobs were. I think that 470 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 2: it was definitely an insecurity that then many folks in 471 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 2: the public and in privately friends and family reassured you 472 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 2: and let you know, wow, that is that is not 473 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 2: what I am known for. That is not what people 474 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: are complimenting me for. That is not what people are 475 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 2: rooting for me for. That's not That's not it. And 476 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 2: we know that, and we've you know, I've talked plenty 477 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 2: about authors we read and lessons we learned. But it's 478 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think that's an insecurity I had 479 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: and something I'd worked on in years prior to get 480 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 2: away from that and to make sure I always remember 481 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 2: who I am, which has nothing to do what I 482 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: ever did on air. 483 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: You actually set this question up earlier with one of 484 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: your answers, but I already had it written down. Why 485 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: is it so hard for you to forgive? And I 486 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: put me in parentheses, But just in general. 487 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. I actually could probably go back somewhere 488 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 2: if I had to unpack this with a with a therapist. 489 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: But I have always been that way. I don't know. 490 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 2: I've always been that way. Just it's more so I 491 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 2: can forgive people who are I forgive my sister, my mom, 492 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 2: you man, close friends, we all get into beefs. But 493 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: when it's someone who's just I don't know that well. 494 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 2: If it's someone I just have a difficult time being 495 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 2: disappointed let down. Maybe those are some of my own expectations, 496 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 2: but I just don't let a whole lot of people in. 497 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: What is your love language? 498 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 2: I can't keep up with what these damn things are. 499 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: It's five of them, and then y'all say it six. 500 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: If you had to pick between, I think physical touch, 501 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: words of affirmation. 502 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 2: There are the gifts in there, right, gifts is in there? 503 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: Probably words of affirmation, words. 504 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: Of affirmation, this acts of service. I think I'm missing ones. 505 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 2: Probably. 506 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: Oh quality time. Quality time is the other one. 507 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 2: Quality time is a big one for me. 508 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so those two words of affirmation and quality time. 509 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 2: The gifts isn't there? Okay, so all of them. I'm 510 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 2: trilingual when it comes to love languages. 511 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 1: I like that, all right. When did you know you 512 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: loved me? 513 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 2: I think from birth there was something. Oh, it was 514 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 2: kind of something on that August nineteenth and West Memphis 515 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: all those years ago, just a hole in my heart 516 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 2: from birth. Doctors couldn't figure it out. 517 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 3: Oh my god, answer please, Look, I'm still not sure. 518 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 2: I'm dealing with yo. That was a joke. Everybody got 519 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 2: cold and Jesus sold. 520 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: That very well. I kind of sucked my breath and 521 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: got stone cold. 522 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 2: Quiet. Oh he's just snorting about it over there. That's 523 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: a good laugh. That's a good laugh. Loved you for 524 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 2: a long time, loved you, been in love with you 525 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: in this way? When I knew that? And I'm thinking 526 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: of it in my mind, like when did I know 527 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: I'm in trouble? When did I know oh oh, this 528 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: needs to be a dressed I campinpoint, but I twenty 529 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: post pandemic twenty twenty. When was that, damn girl? 530 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: I mean, we started working together in twenty twenty, like closely, 531 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: we always work together, but we actually shared in America that. 532 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: I'm the twenty twenty It was early twenty twenty two. 533 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 2: We didn't start talking about it until much nutel later. 534 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: But when I thought that was an issue was for me? 535 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: Was twenty twenty two going into I don't know spring 536 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 2: certainly somewhere, but spring twenty twenty two is what I 537 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: would say. 538 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: How do you motivate yourself when you're feeling down or 539 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: uninspired or just low? What do you do? 540 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: I have learned now that I need to stop and 541 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 2: rest and take could beat. Usually I would try to 542 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 2: push through. I would pop another five hour energy, stay 543 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: up all night. But I've learned now that sometimes I'm 544 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 2: less productive by staying up for three hours and not 545 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 2: getting anything done instead of just taking one hour break 546 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 2: and being much more productive. So that's I've learned that 547 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 2: to motivate myself, I don't need a whole lot of it. 548 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 2: I need I get down and I get low. But 549 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 2: when I do that. I need rest, mental rest, physical rest. 550 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: But as far as motivation, You've seen this time and 551 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: time again that the alarm doesn't have to go off. 552 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: I don't hit snooze. If it does, I hit off 553 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 2: and jump out of the bit and I am off 554 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: and running. I don't need to go. Get tea first 555 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 2: and crust out of my eyes and I'm ready to go. 556 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 2: That's me every day. 557 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: What is your best life advice for someone who is 558 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: starting out in adulthood? Like, what would you what would 559 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: be your best advice that, with everything you've learned, everything 560 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,959 Speaker 1: we've been through, what would you say? 561 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: I would tell folks, don't let perfect to get in 562 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 2: the way of good, which is some great advice I 563 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 2: got a while back. This point you have given all 564 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 2: we know. I don't know what to advise anybody. Cool luck, 565 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 2: but we went through. But no, you have to screw 566 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: up early and often make as many of them. Don't ever, 567 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 2: don't be afraid when you're eighteen nineteen twenty twenty one. 568 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 2: Don't be afraid then, because you can actually make a 569 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 2: mistake you can recover from. But screw up early. Don't 570 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 2: get scared early, and do it absolutely all and maybe 571 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 2: maybe you have time in life to correct some of 572 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: those mistakes you made early on. 573 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: Well, I wish I had gotten that advice about twenty 574 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: years ago. Okay, so lightning round when we come back, 575 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: stay with us. Okay, here we are with a lightning 576 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: round for TJ. Holmes favorite movie of all time? 577 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: Ten Commandments. 578 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: Oh that's surprise. 579 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 2: Yes, Charleston heston you and Brennard that movie, favorite movie 580 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 2: all the time. 581 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: I did not know that. Yep, very interesting. Okay. What's 582 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: the last thing that made you cry? 583 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 2: Probably you? 584 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: I didn't say, who is the last person to make 585 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: you cry? 586 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 2: Okay? Something you said? The last thing that made me cry? 587 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: I duly noted. I'm not going to ask what it was, 588 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: because I probably just don't. I want to keep that 589 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: to ourselves. What song will get you on the dance floor? 590 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 2: A sap rocky f problems? 591 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: Okay? Favorite country you visited? 592 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 2: Morocco? 593 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: Maybe? 594 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: Wait, there's a Brazil in there. Give me one a second. Maybe, Oh, Frances, for. 595 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: So many good ones. 596 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: I'm trying just what trip I enjoyed the most. Let's 597 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 2: go with France. 598 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: Okay, And what what country do you still want to 599 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 1: visit that you haven't yet that's on the top of 600 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: your list. 601 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 2: Top Egypt is way up there. 602 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 1: We are in sync with that, all right. I don't 603 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: know the answer to this favorite color black that's mine? 604 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 2: What the hell? 605 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 3: Man? 606 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 2: I mean? 607 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: You gotta have some silly ones. 608 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 2: You see me. The color I wear most is probably 609 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 2: I do wear black most, but as far as being 610 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 2: on TV blue, I would go with a lot of blue. Okay. 611 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: Favorite holiday Thanksgiving? Oh, I knew that. Dang celebrity crush. 612 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 2: There are so many. Mom oh god, Zazie Beats, Helen Muhren, 613 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 2: Emily Blunt, Angela Bassett. 614 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 3: Wow, you can stop now, my god, Edgar Ramirez, Denzel Washington. 615 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 3: I should have qualified that question. Name your favorite or 616 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 3: your biggest celebrity crush? It's okay, I liked it. Last 617 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:40,720 Speaker 3: thing you searched on Google? 618 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 2: Damn, I don't know that's a good shot. Check yeah, 619 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 2: check it. Okay, you want to ask the next one while. 620 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: You're do you believe in astrology? 621 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 2: It's fun to play around with, but not really. 622 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 1: It's so leo of you. Last book you read cover 623 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: to cover? Yeah, I'm really curious what this one is 624 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: cover to. 625 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 2: Cover with cover to cover? Hiesh. You know what Cover 626 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 2: to Cover? You know what it was? It was Will 627 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 2: Smith's biography, autobiography, Okay, because I had an interview coming 628 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 2: up with him, and yeah, cover to Cover. I think 629 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 2: that was the last one because I had read all 630 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 2: the singers stuff, Marchol Singer and yeah, I think i'd 631 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 2: read all that beforehand. I think that was it. 632 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: I listened to that book. It's still I mean that 633 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: it is an amazing book. It's an amazing read. All right. 634 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: What's the last thing you googled? 635 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 2: Art Malick? 636 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: Please explain? 637 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 2: He is the actor who plays the villain in True Lives. 638 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 2: Why did you google that? I was trying to remember 639 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 2: who he was. I had the movie on, and you 640 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 2: know I always have something on in the True Lies 641 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 2: is one of my absolute favorites. David Lee Curtis is 642 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 2: one of our absolute favorites of all time, and he 643 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 2: is the bad guy, the terrorist in it. But he 644 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 2: is a British actor and I was trying to look 645 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 2: up his background. That is the last thing that I googled. 646 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: That is very funny. Okay, best gift you've ever received, man, 647 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,240 Speaker 1: I got. 648 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 2: A lot of crappy gifts. 649 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: Or they're so good you can't pick. 650 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 2: The best I've ever received. That's todd I really do 651 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 2: not know. 652 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: Do you have a gift that you remember about that? 653 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: Because have you ever gone through Christmas and you're like, wait, 654 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: someone asks you what your favorite gift is and you 655 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 1: can't even remember one of them? Was there a memorable gift? 656 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 2: You know what I got? I got when I was 657 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 2: I don't know, five six seven. I got a a 658 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 2: Gi Joe set. They had like forty fifty pieces in it. 659 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 2: I cannot remember being that excited about a gift since. 660 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 2: But yeah, I've got a lot nice gifts, but the 661 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 2: greatest scale. I was trying to think that anybody ever 662 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,760 Speaker 2: give me a car or a suit or a house 663 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 2: or pay my rent for the month or something. I've 664 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 2: never gotten anything on that scale. 665 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, but memorable? I like that. What would 666 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: your last meal be? 667 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 2: I need a shrimps of each to start. I need 668 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 2: a caesar salad no croutons, dressing on the side with 669 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 2: anchovies as well. I need a lobster ravioli to go 670 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 2: along with my bone in filet let's cooked midrare. And 671 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 2: I need a bread pudding for dessert. 672 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: Okay that yes, none of those things surprise me, all right, 673 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: best way. 674 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 2: To die as late as possible. 675 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: Okay, fair Favorite interview I hate when people ask me this, 676 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: but I'm asking it to you. Favorite interview of all time. 677 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 2: All time, probably a series of them I did with 678 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 2: Alex Trebek. Favorite because I just learned so much from 679 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 2: him in the time I got to spend with him, 680 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 2: which was a lot. But that it will always stand out. 681 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 2: Have been so many over the years obviously for it. 682 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 2: But you enjoy them for different reasons. You enjoy some 683 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,439 Speaker 2: of them because they made big headlines and we're good 684 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 2: for your career. Others because you got to meet great people, 685 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 2: and it is the whole range of emotions with Alex Trebek. 686 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 2: But he was somebody I've valued spending time with and 687 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 2: will always be a blessings. Been around him as much 688 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 2: as I was. 689 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was very cool that time you got with him. 690 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 1: We all learned a lot from you about him. A 691 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 1: dream car. 692 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 2: That I've owned them, I think already. Well, I'm not 693 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 2: I'm a big car guy, but I'm not a big 694 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 2: exotic car guy. So I yeah, I had for a 695 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 2: few years a red Corps. Yeah, a bright red Corvette, 696 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 2: and that was car I missed that car a lot. 697 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 2: It was sick shift right, it was a six seed. 698 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 2: I can see it now, I can see me in 699 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 2: it now. But my dream car, I am a very 700 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 2: basic dude. I want a just a fully loaded white 701 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,919 Speaker 2: Chevy Tahoe and I'll be happy the rest of my life. 702 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: Okay, best stress reliever. 703 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 2: Running. 704 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: That is very, very true. I love that this is 705 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: out of the lightning round because I just maybe want 706 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: to end on something, you know, insightful, something to leave 707 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: the listener with. What would you say is your biggest 708 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: takeaway takeaway from the aftermath of this past year. 709 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 2: Biggest is the biggest. There are so many I have. 710 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 2: The takeaway has to be that this two shell pass. 711 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 2: People have told me that my entire life, or when 712 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 2: something comes up, and so many did tell me that 713 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 2: this time you can tell. Sometimes people say in passing, 714 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 2: and some people say it still being sincere, but others 715 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 2: say it from experience, and it really does. It never 716 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 2: feels like it when you're it's happening to you and 717 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 2: you in the moment, but it is absolutely true that 718 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 2: with time things pass, heels, wounds do heal, and there 719 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 2: is going to be a way forward. So I have. 720 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 2: I have learned that more than anything. It's actually true. 721 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 1: And here is the question that so many of us 722 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: ask at the end of interviews. Is there anything I 723 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 1: didn't ask you that you'd like to say? 724 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 2: Nope? And I love when the interview e would say that, no, 725 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 2: good to go. All right, my plane's taken off here 726 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 2: an now and half. 727 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 1: Anyway, you covered it all great, good to hear. How 728 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: did that feel? 729 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 2: How did it feel? It was fine? I mean, I'm 730 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 2: not gonna, you know, take issue with the interviewer. You're 731 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,240 Speaker 2: the professional here. 732 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: I like asking the questions. Which one do you prefer most? 733 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 2: Asking or answering? Yes? Asking? Yeah. 734 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 1: Same. 735 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 2: It's easier for me though, to answer them, because, like 736 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 2: I said, you can ask me anything. It wasn't too 737 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 2: much in here that was so so out of the 738 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 2: box or controversial or threw me off to where I 739 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 2: didn't feel like I could just open my mouth and speak. 740 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 2: I don't you know. There are times our entire careers 741 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 2: were on live television. You always to some degree have 742 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 2: to be mindful of what comes out of your mouth. 743 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 2: You can't be completely honest, you can't got to couch 744 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,760 Speaker 2: it a little bit. And this is just an environment 745 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 2: here where I don't feel like I have to do that, 746 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,439 Speaker 2: and this episode is not one where I felt that either. 747 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: Well that's good. That makes that feels good? 748 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 4: Is there? 749 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: I'm curious? Is there a question you thought I was 750 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: going to ask that I didn't. 751 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 2: Oh, no, okay, I don't think so. 752 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: All right, more to come. I love it. Well, thank 753 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 1: you TJ for being our guest on the Amy and 754 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: TJ Podcast. 755 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I like what you guys are 756 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 2: doing here. 757 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,320 Speaker 1: I hope you come back next week or on a 758 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 1: couple of days. It'd be nice to have you around 759 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: in the studio. I know where to find you, all right, everybody. 760 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: You can find us on Instagram at Amy and TJ Podcast. 761 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 1: We're both on Gosh, we both joined TikTok. We have 762 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: our private Instagram accounts. There are numerous ways you all 763 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: can reach out, but we hope you will, and we 764 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: hope you have a fantastic day.