WEBVTT - Episode 1 - Welcome to Paradise

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<v Speaker 1>I used to always come early for the games, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's ten thousand people there for our warm up. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a love affair. It's a love affair with the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ingrained. I think from the cradle. You know, there's religion,

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<v Speaker 1>there's politics, and there's basketball. It got to the point

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<v Speaker 1>where Fizz and my other assistant, Chad Camra, were signing

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<v Speaker 1>kids foreheads. My legacy was forty two years ago, but

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<v Speaker 1>these people act like it was yesterday. You had lunch

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<v Speaker 1>with him, yeah, but I wasn't able to eat. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, just like I had lunch, cat sat next

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<v Speaker 1>to him. Hey, if we could be partial contributors to

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<v Speaker 1>being dreammakers, I'm all four. Picture a place where basketball

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<v Speaker 1>is everywhere, from the air you breathe, to soil beneath

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<v Speaker 1>your feet, where people hoop anywhere and everywhere, from MBA

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<v Speaker 1>ready arenas to the middle of streets to the slopes

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<v Speaker 1>of active volcanoes, where the most common item in people's

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<v Speaker 1>wardrobes is a jersey, and the soundtrack to everyday life

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<v Speaker 1>is a bouncing ball. This place, this hoops heaven, is

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<v Speaker 1>the Philippines. Basketball where we're standing tallis when you travel

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<v Speaker 1>through the country You're guaranteed to see people outside shooting,

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<v Speaker 1>driving and defending on dirt and concrete courts, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>playing either in bare feet or were just flip flops

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<v Speaker 1>or channellas on their feet. But for real, the Philippines

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<v Speaker 1>passion for basketball is off the charts. Don't take my

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<v Speaker 1>word for it, though. We asked Donna Reus, director of

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<v Speaker 1>Content and Media Distribution at MBA Asia, to bring us

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers. We'll hear from Donna later in the episode

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<v Speaker 1>of the population in the Philippines consider themselves NBA fans.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the largest person to JAMO in all countries, and

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<v Speaker 1>two thirds of households in the Philippines watched MBA coverage

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<v Speaker 1>last season. It's no surprise that basketball caught on in

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<v Speaker 1>the Philippines. Basketball is caught on almost everywhere but no

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<v Speaker 1>other country, and people have embraced the game the way

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<v Speaker 1>Filipinos have, where it's almost a national religion. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>hoops Paradise, the Philippines Love of the game. Brought to

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<v Speaker 1>you by iHeartRadio and the MBA pastable. What's up, everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Cassidy Hubber. If you're a basketball fan, you may

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<v Speaker 1>know me from the NBA sidelines, where I'm a reporter

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<v Speaker 1>for ESPN and the host of the show Hoop Streams.

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<v Speaker 1>But what you might not know unless you're Filipino, in

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<v Speaker 1>which case you almost definitely know, is that I'm Filipino

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<v Speaker 1>American and that basketball is in my blood, not just

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a national obsession in the country where my

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<v Speaker 1>mother was born, but because I grew up playing around

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<v Speaker 1>the world with my dad in the driveway of our

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<v Speaker 1>home right outside of Chicago. My father's roots are Irish

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<v Speaker 1>and German, but his love for the game would be

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<v Speaker 1>right at home in the Philippines. Even now, he just

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<v Speaker 1>turns seventy, and he still has a regular pickup run.

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<v Speaker 1>He spent a lifetime around American basketball, and so have I.

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<v Speaker 1>I've only gotten the chance to go back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Philippines with my mom twice. I've seen enough to know

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<v Speaker 1>that basketball is a huge deal in the Philippines, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know the country well enough to explain every

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of its roundball infatuation, at least not like someone

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<v Speaker 1>who grew up there could. Luckily, though, I'm taking this

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<v Speaker 1>journey with someone who did grow up in the Philippines,

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<v Speaker 1>and he understands the country's basketball jones about as well

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<v Speaker 1>as anyone on the planet. Nico, what a thanks, Cassidy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Nico Ramos, a sports broadcaster here in Manila, where

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<v Speaker 1>I used to have a job almost exactly like yours

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<v Speaker 1>during NBA games, only I was a reporter and then

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<v Speaker 1>the commentator for a professional league which is called, in

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<v Speaker 1>a very intentional nods for our American counterparts, the PBA

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<v Speaker 1>or Philippine Basketball Association. I played for a very small,

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<v Speaker 1>very bad college team, but I used to tell everybody

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<v Speaker 1>I was the only one who was going to make

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<v Speaker 1>it to the PBA. I was right, kind of Nico,

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<v Speaker 1>inside the lines or outside the lines, you made it.

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<v Speaker 1>And in this podcast, we want to explore the Philippines

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<v Speaker 1>passion for the sport. How did a nation on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side of the world, from the YMCA Gymnasium in Springfield, Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 1>where doctor James Naismith first hung a pair of peach

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<v Speaker 1>baskets and instructed his students to toss a leather ball

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<v Speaker 1>into the hoops, come to a door basketball Like almost

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<v Speaker 1>no other country on the planet. It's not like the

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<v Speaker 1>Philippines is an international powerhouse unless you're at least fifty

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<v Speaker 1>years old. The country has sent a team to the

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<v Speaker 1>Olympic Basketball Tournament in your lifetime. It also hasn't produced

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<v Speaker 1>a single homegrown NBA player ever yet, And well, we

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<v Speaker 1>might as well address the undersized elephant in the room.

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<v Speaker 1>Filipinos usually aren't very tall. In fact, statistically speaking, we're

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<v Speaker 1>among the shortest people in the world. National surveys have

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<v Speaker 1>repeatedly measured the average height of Filipino men at about

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<v Speaker 1>five foot four. You know, we're still on average not

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<v Speaker 1>at tall people. So we have to be kind of

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<v Speaker 1>creative to be successful on the court. That's Donna as

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<v Speaker 1>director of Content and Needia Distribution at NBA Asia. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's kind of the hallmark of Filipino basketball

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<v Speaker 1>is that we're pretty good at, like being creative. I

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<v Speaker 1>like this word a couple of words, I guess. Like

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<v Speaker 1>there's gulang, which literally means age in the basketball sense.

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<v Speaker 1>It sometimes can take on a negative connotation, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think for me means using your smarts to make up

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<v Speaker 1>for lack of like height or hef. But maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>better word is discarte, which I think kind of translates

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<v Speaker 1>to being strategic, but I guess it's the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>right to use. You're smart, to outsmart somebody and just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of working around your physical disadvantages. Now, Cassidy, let

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<v Speaker 1>me translate that for you, because Donna is though much

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<v Speaker 1>more polite Filipino out of the three of us, All

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<v Speaker 1>of that really adds up to a grabbing of the risks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pulling on the jersey's, hugging on the opponent's shorts without

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<v Speaker 1>the referee seeing scrap. All of that adds up to

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<v Speaker 1>gulang And you know, it's it's kind of it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of this badge of honor that you kind of earn

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<v Speaker 1>when you're a young player. We all actually have these

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<v Speaker 1>moments when we remember someone older telling us I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>gulan ka, which means, oh, now you know how to play.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you know how to play. I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>need to start using that a little bit more here

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<v Speaker 1>in the States. And just like surprise people, I'm paper.

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<v Speaker 1>None of this adds up to the profile of a

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<v Speaker 1>country made up of one hundred million basketball junkies and

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<v Speaker 1>NBA addicts. Yet the two times I visited family in

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<v Speaker 1>the Philippines with my mom, I've seen this sport everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>around me, pickup games on every street corner, NBA stars

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<v Speaker 1>passed in present, smiling down at me from a twelve

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<v Speaker 1>story billboard, and live game broadcasts on TV from SunUp

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<v Speaker 1>to sundown. When it comes to Filipino fans interest in

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<v Speaker 1>NBA basketball, the numbers are mind blowing. On social media,

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<v Speaker 1>the league's Facebook page has more than eight million followers

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<v Speaker 1>from the Philippines that ranks number two in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>above every country but the States. Last season, viewers from

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<v Speaker 1>the Philippines accounted for one third of the total hours

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<v Speaker 1>watched on the NBA's YouTube channel. And for all those

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<v Speaker 1>critics who say the Dunk contest has lost its charm,

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<v Speaker 1>don't bring that mess to Manila. Because Filipinos watched almost

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<v Speaker 1>ten and a half million hours of MBA content last

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<v Speaker 1>All Star weekend, about twenty percent of all worldwide consumption. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no stopping Filipinos from watching basketball, and watching a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of it. As they say. If you know, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>When I worked as editor in chief of Slam Philippines

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<v Speaker 1>and even now in my position as Senior brand director

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<v Speaker 1>for Titan, I spend a lot of time in meetings

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<v Speaker 1>with basketball and sneaker executives from other countries and Whenever

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<v Speaker 1>I start sharing stats about Filipino basketball obsession, or when

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<v Speaker 1>I tell them stories about teenagers practicing step back threes

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<v Speaker 1>and their flip flops, they can hardly believe what they're hearing. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>a big part of my job is to translate the

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<v Speaker 1>country's national obsession to the international brands we work with,

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<v Speaker 1>and to always be looking for ways to connect people

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<v Speaker 1>through the sport. So does that mean you could tell

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<v Speaker 1>me what's going on with the Senator who has his

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<v Speaker 1>own signature shoe? I thought you'd never ask. But for

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<v Speaker 1>the record, that wasn't us. Don't pin that on us.

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<v Speaker 1>Titan was not the mastermind behind Senator Bong Goes twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen three point King sneaker drop. That was a local

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<v Speaker 1>apparel company called World Balance and the shoe a white

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<v Speaker 1>and lime green low top with a mesh body. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a real thing. And yes, before you ask,

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<v Speaker 1>the Senator Ken stroke it from way downtown. The sneaker

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<v Speaker 1>was a limited release of only five hundred pairs and

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<v Speaker 1>they were mostly you know, created to drum a publicity

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<v Speaker 1>for Goes. Can I say it? But successful Senate campaign

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<v Speaker 1>that year? All in all, yes, there's no denying they

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<v Speaker 1>were real. Local influencers even did unboxing videos on YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>comparing the three point Kings quote unquote, vibe and fit

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<v Speaker 1>to the Nike KD Elevins. You gotta be the shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>And here I am still waiting for new balance to

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<v Speaker 1>come out with the Obama. Yes, we can mids the

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<v Speaker 1>intersection between basketball and politics in the Philippines. It's an amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>an often ridiculous way to illustrate how deeply the sport

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<v Speaker 1>is ingrained in Filipinos lives. All right, Cassidy, Now it's

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<v Speaker 1>my turn to ask the question. The times you did

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<v Speaker 1>visit family here in the Philippines, what do you notice

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<v Speaker 1>about basketball in the country. Well, regretfully, I've only been

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<v Speaker 1>back twice. First time I was so little i can

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<v Speaker 1>barely remember it. The second time I was in college.

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<v Speaker 1>And Filipino Americans know how it goes when we come

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<v Speaker 1>home for a visit. Our families basically kidnap us from

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<v Speaker 1>the moment we land in Manila till they return us

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<v Speaker 1>to the airport a few hours before the return flight.

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<v Speaker 1>So the entire trip we've been shuttle door to door

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<v Speaker 1>from the family home to the mall, to the restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>to the beach and then back. But I did spend

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time in traffic gazing at my surroundings

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<v Speaker 1>from the backseat of my family car. And during those hours,

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<v Speaker 1>even when I wasn't looking for it, I saw basketball everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>There were vendors walking through the gridlock selling things you'd expect,

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<v Speaker 1>like water bottles and air fresheners, but also items that

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<v Speaker 1>seem completely useless in a traffic jam, like feather dusters,

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<v Speaker 1>toilet plungers, and yes, fully inflated, bright orange rubber basketballs.

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<v Speaker 1>Are people really working on their handles while waiting at

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<v Speaker 1>red lights? I mean smart, like get that handlework in

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<v Speaker 1>when you can. But other times I'd look out the

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<v Speaker 1>window and see Magic Johnson's painted portrait staring right back

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<v Speaker 1>at me, along with Byron Scott, James Worthy, and the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the Showtime Lakers starting five from the side

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<v Speaker 1>of one of those public transport cheapneys. But what really

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<v Speaker 1>struck me were the basketball courts. Every corner had its

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<v Speaker 1>own makeshift half court, and every town plaza had a

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<v Speaker 1>full court, complete with concrete bleachers, an aluminum roof, and

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<v Speaker 1>an electronic scoreboard. A lot of them look like they

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<v Speaker 1>had fiberglass backboards and breakaway rims. You know how jealous

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<v Speaker 1>I would have been of public courts like these during

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<v Speaker 1>the middle school heyday of my playing career. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what makes the Philippines basketball heaven in a lot of ways.

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<v Speaker 1>No matter how you connect with a sport, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to find a court and more importantly, a level to

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<v Speaker 1>play at. If you're elite, you're gonna gravitate towards the

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<v Speaker 1>elite guys. Now, if you're like me and you just

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<v Speaker 1>want to sweat once or twice a week, there's that

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<v Speaker 1>group for you too. If you're just hanging out or

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<v Speaker 1>around your street and your flip flops, there's a half

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<v Speaker 1>court there that you guys built on an electricity pole,

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<v Speaker 1>and playing there means something to whether you live in

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<v Speaker 1>a city or in the province, those courts are centers

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<v Speaker 1>of community life. Sometimes it feels even stronger in the

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<v Speaker 1>most rural areas, where the basketball court serves so many functions.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the open space where farmers lay down their rice

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<v Speaker 1>crops out to dry. It's the banquet hall where the

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<v Speaker 1>town holds beauty pageants and talent shows and six am

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<v Speaker 1>zoomba classes. It's the evacuation center when it's hyphoon threatens

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<v Speaker 1>people's homes, and it's the spot where local governments administer

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<v Speaker 1>public health programs like vaccination campaigns, and yes, even summertime

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<v Speaker 1>community circumctition events. Don't ask. It's all in the basketball court.

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<v Speaker 1>And I haven't even mentioned the basketball that's played there yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I've been lucky enough to play basketball all around

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<v Speaker 1>the world, I played terrible Division three college basketball here

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<v Speaker 1>in the Philippines, and to this day, the best feeling

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<v Speaker 1>I've ever had while playing the game wasn't when I

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<v Speaker 1>shared the court with Kevin Durant or Blake Griffin or

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<v Speaker 1>sneaker launch runs. He drops something, Oh yeah, no, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just should I double click on some details because that

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<v Speaker 1>time I played with KD he was just talking trash

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<v Speaker 1>at me because I airballed the jumper. He remembers me

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<v Speaker 1>to this day as Manila No jumper. Yes, he still

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<v Speaker 1>calls me that I'm bringing that up next time I

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<v Speaker 1>see him at shoot around. And Blake Griffin once passed

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<v Speaker 1>the ball to me and I shot at three and

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<v Speaker 1>it went in and I told him to please tell

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<v Speaker 1>KDE and he said, that's really weird. So while I

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<v Speaker 1>name drop the details, though, aren't something I'm really eager

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<v Speaker 1>to share. As I was saying, it's not when playing

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<v Speaker 1>with those guys that I felt the best. It was

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<v Speaker 1>on the court. Right down the street from my house

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<v Speaker 1>in Marquina City, there was this one special summer where

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<v Speaker 1>our neighborhood, which consists of three streets, was split into

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<v Speaker 1>four teams, and the only rule was brothers and dads

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<v Speaker 1>can't play on the same team. We have to split

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<v Speaker 1>it off so that everyone makes friends with everybody. So

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<v Speaker 1>in the finals, my dad was coaching his team and

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<v Speaker 1>I was playing for mine. He was heckling me the

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<v Speaker 1>entire game. So when I hit a big three pointer

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<v Speaker 1>in the fourth quarter, that really pissed him off. To

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<v Speaker 1>this day, that's my favorite basketball memory because seeing my

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<v Speaker 1>dad not knowing if he was supposed to be proud

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<v Speaker 1>of me or if he was supposed to be mad

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<v Speaker 1>because he was losing. It's priceless. Favorite basketball memory. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because me and my two brothers were talking smack to

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<v Speaker 1>my dad everyone like, that's what you get for not

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<v Speaker 1>betting on one of us. It's true, talk about tough love.

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<v Speaker 1>My mom was there upset because everybody was late for

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<v Speaker 1>dinner and that double that she had made was getting cold,

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<v Speaker 1>and she didn't go there to watch. She just went

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<v Speaker 1>there and crossed the street to tell the four of

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<v Speaker 1>us to go home. Incredible. To this day, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is no exaggeration, I still have people from that neighborhood

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<v Speaker 1>come up to me and say, I was there when

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<v Speaker 1>you hit that shot and your dad got pissed off.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody in the country has a story like that. The

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<v Speaker 1>game is tied to our most cherished memories, the unforgettable

0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.800
<v Speaker 1>moments shared with our whole communities. And even if those

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<v Speaker 1>moments didn't come in a basketball game, they for sure

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<v Speaker 1>happened on a basketball court. Yeah, in Tenement, the one

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<v Speaker 1>important place. He's the basketball court. You know why. The

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<v Speaker 1>camaraderie there, the family itself, it's built there. That was

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<v Speaker 1>coach Eddie Barboena describing the similar connection his community has

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<v Speaker 1>with their central basketball court. Only their court and their

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<v Speaker 1>community is unlike any other in the Philippines. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>only street court in the nation that Jordan Clarkson, Paul George,

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<v Speaker 1>and Lebron James have made round ball pilgrimages too, a

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<v Speaker 1>place so special that Lebron left a cement imprint of

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<v Speaker 1>his hand behind to mark his visit. That place is

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<v Speaker 1>located into gig one of these seventeen cities that make

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<v Speaker 1>up Metro Manila, and that famous blacktop court is named Tenement,

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<v Speaker 1>after the housing structure that surrounds it. So I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>trainer coach here they just may see how to help people.

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<v Speaker 1>The Tenement was built on nineteen sixty two President just Oo.

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<v Speaker 1>This building was condemned, but the japan Engineering c and

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<v Speaker 1>test our building here. It lasts more than fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 1>They said that this place is not safe, but they're wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>This place is so much love. Where we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for a quick ta gala Clesson Cassidy. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't mean to put you on the spot, but how's

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<v Speaker 1>your tag? Um? Look, this is not like I still

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<v Speaker 1>hold this against my mom or my Lola, who you

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<v Speaker 1>know both were in the household. I was my whole

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<v Speaker 1>entire life raising me um. But they didn't teach me

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<v Speaker 1>to galog. That's okay. I know a few words, and

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<v Speaker 1>you I know a few phrases like I'm not cool

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<v Speaker 1>or you know massa rop and uh yepital and you

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<v Speaker 1>know I can. I can say a few things, but

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<v Speaker 1>not as much as I want to and I still

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<v Speaker 1>need to. You know, I still hold that against my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>It's their fault. It's completely on that. But look, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a problem that the gout a lesson have got

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<v Speaker 1>here for you. Isn't something you would have learned in

0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:27.960
<v Speaker 1>college courses or Rosetta Stone. We're pretty much anywhere outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the Philippines among nineties era NBA fans. And I

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<v Speaker 1>can't even blame this on your mom or your lola,

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<v Speaker 1>because you had to be a basketball fan to really

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<v Speaker 1>know this. Now, when I bring up the greatest pick

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<v Speaker 1>and roll duos of the nineties era, who are the

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<v Speaker 1>first two players who come to mind? Quick? Can't you

0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:53.600
<v Speaker 1>watched your hometown Chicago Bulls beat them in the finals twice? Oh,

0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:57.760
<v Speaker 1>easy work? John Stockton and Karl Malone? Right? Perfect? And

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<v Speaker 1>do you remember how the great and be on NBC

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<v Speaker 1>announcer Marv Albert would call their plays together back then?

0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Stockton to Malone Bengo. Well, in Filipino, the version of

0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:14.560
<v Speaker 1>expanded Tagalog that serves as the Philippines national language, the

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<v Speaker 1>same exact sounds, that combination of phonetics they happen to

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<v Speaker 1>form the sentence Stockton to Malone, which means Stockton jump

0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:30.840
<v Speaker 1>and every time the mailman delivered on a Stockton assist

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<v Speaker 1>in those years, it was like Marv and millions of

0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Filipino NBA fans we're sharing an inside joke only we

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<v Speaker 1>could understand. Oh wow, I feel the same kind of

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<v Speaker 1>if you know, you know, connection with Filipino fans. I mean,

0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:47.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, while covering the NBA most of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>will be at the big events that draw spectators from

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<v Speaker 1>all over the world, like All Star Weekend, Summer League,

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<v Speaker 1>or the NBA Finals, and I'll be walking down like

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<v Speaker 1>an arena hallway or spot a few fans sitting together

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<v Speaker 1>in this hands and we'll just make eye contact. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is something you know that like I do just

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<v Speaker 1>on a daily basis, I will make sure if I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're a Filipino, I will say something Filipino. Often

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<v Speaker 1>I'm right, I'm like nine right, But specifically with NBA

0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:19.800
<v Speaker 1>fans who come up to me during games or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at NBA events, I will absolutely say Filipino and then

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<v Speaker 1>we would embrace and I would say Filipino, Filipino, Filipedo.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, they don't point at you then

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<v Speaker 1>giveaways that it's not a head nod. No, it's it's

0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:41.120
<v Speaker 1>not a point. They kind of gesture their lips. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because Filipino's talk with their face. Yeah, exactly over there,

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<v Speaker 1>well there. So when you see them talking to someone

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<v Speaker 1>whoever is next to them and then making that like

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<v Speaker 1>kissing mark gesture at you, it's only to say you

0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:57.680
<v Speaker 1>see her, Cassidy. Yes, it's not creepy. Yeah, okay, creeped out.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of the time they'll stop me and

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<v Speaker 1>share a quick version of their own basketball love story

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<v Speaker 1>and then tell me how much it means to see

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<v Speaker 1>a fellow Filipino on screen during NBA games. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you hate it every time. I tell you how important

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<v Speaker 1>that is to so many people here to see you

0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:17.880
<v Speaker 1>represent us so well. I mean a lot of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>the country's basketball passion shines brightest when our love for

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<v Speaker 1>the game comes into contact with the oldest and best

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<v Speaker 1>pro league in the world. So to have you there,

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<v Speaker 1>it's incredibly, incredibly a proud moment, NonStop for all Filipinos everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>We've also seen it up close when great players like

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron or Kde come through Manila during their offseason sneaker tours.

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<v Speaker 1>When Kevin Durant visited Manila, he was greeted by chanting

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<v Speaker 1>fans everywhere he went. It's a dream to look at

0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:51.919
<v Speaker 1>man in the sea and didn't have Enos players here

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<v Speaker 1>with them. Man can't beat there. So you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you'll see a future NBA player walking around here

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<v Speaker 1>at some point. I mean, a chance to see a

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<v Speaker 1>Finals MVP in the flesh, maybe even get close enough

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<v Speaker 1>to ask for an autograph, for a selfie. It becomes

0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:10.879
<v Speaker 1>almost like a religious experience, and the players feel it too.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I remember any time Kobe Bryant would come

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<v Speaker 1>to the Philippines on a sneaker tour, the country would stop,

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<v Speaker 1>like everybody you knew would be at wherever it was.

0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:28.639
<v Speaker 1>It was rumored that Kolby would be. It was raining,

0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:33.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't matter, it was sun ten feet right over your head,

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<v Speaker 1>did it matter. You were only going to see a

0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:40.800
<v Speaker 1>glimpse of Kobe through the glass, didn't matter. There were

0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:44.119
<v Speaker 1>thousands of people there just waiting to see him. The

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<v Speaker 1>love definitely goes both ways, Nico. I remember back in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and eight, after the Boston Celtics be Kobe

0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:53.760
<v Speaker 1>and won their first championship since the Larry bird days,

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<v Speaker 1>the team celebrated by going to a Manny Pacil fight

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<v Speaker 1>in Las Vegas, and then all of a sudden, after

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<v Speaker 1>Manny knocked out some poor guy named David Diaz, there

0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:08.800
<v Speaker 1>was Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, Rajon Rondo, Sam Cassell,

0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:12.520
<v Speaker 1>and Tony Allen partying in Manny's locker room, and you

0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:15.600
<v Speaker 1>couldn't tell who was more starstruck to meet the other.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure Cage even knew, but before they went

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<v Speaker 1>in there, Manny had been calling him his favorite player

0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:26.200
<v Speaker 1>for years. Huge Man, huge Man. Just just what it is, Man,

0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm a huge pac Man fans. While we're here, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that this guy has never asked for the picture

0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:37.600
<v Speaker 1>for anyone except you. He is your number one, the

0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Philippines greatest living champion at the time when he could

0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:44.720
<v Speaker 1>almost literally do no wrong in the eyes of fellopen noise,

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<v Speaker 1>engaging in some adorable cross cultural bromance with future NBA

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of famers, with some of the best basketball players

0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:57.040
<v Speaker 1>on the planet looking up to our national sporting hero.

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<v Speaker 1>For Filipinos watching the scene unfold, it was like Manny

0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:05.879
<v Speaker 1>said a dream come true. Later on Manny's love for

0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 1>KG and the Celtics wound up playing a factor in

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most controversial fights they June twenty twelve,

0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:15.400
<v Speaker 1>lost to Timothy Bradley Junior that nobody watching the fight

0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:19.040
<v Speaker 1>seemed to see Manny losing. Rumors swirled after the bout

0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:22.840
<v Speaker 1>that Manny had angered the ringside judges by postponing his

0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:26.120
<v Speaker 1>ring walk while he watched the Celtics play the Miami

0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Heat in an Eastern Conference Finals game. I'm still I'm

0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:32.440
<v Speaker 1>still sour about that loss. By the way, I still

0:24:32.560 --> 0:24:36.320
<v Speaker 1>demand a recount same. I remember being so mad. I

0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:38.600
<v Speaker 1>think I was at a party that night watching on

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:41.239
<v Speaker 1>my phone and everyone was like, what is wrong with you?

0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:47.280
<v Speaker 1>Like this is just an atrocity. But I digress. Overall,

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:50.560
<v Speaker 1>the way that Manny always wore his love for basketball

0:24:50.720 --> 0:24:53.800
<v Speaker 1>and the NBA on his sleeve, launching his two handed

0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:57.000
<v Speaker 1>catapult of a jump shot in pickup games, his brief

0:24:57.040 --> 0:25:01.239
<v Speaker 1>and confusing foray into owning Code Chain and playing for

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:05.200
<v Speaker 1>his own PBA team, starting his own regional pro league

0:25:05.320 --> 0:25:09.080
<v Speaker 1>to provide opportunities for the surplus of Filipino basketball players

0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:13.400
<v Speaker 1>who aren't quite PBA caliber. It seems like another perfect

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:17.560
<v Speaker 1>example of how basketball touches just every Filipino in the world.

0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:21.120
<v Speaker 1>In some way you see basketball in the NBA's influence

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:24.520
<v Speaker 1>on Manny's life. But really you see it wherever you

0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 1>look in the Philippines, and the closer you look, the

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:31.560
<v Speaker 1>more you see the sports imprint all around you. They're

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:34.240
<v Speaker 1>the painted portraits of NBA legends on the sides of

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:37.480
<v Speaker 1>jeepneys that you mentioned earlier, often with images of the

0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 1>driver's wife and children. On the hood. There are the

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:45.800
<v Speaker 1>court size murals of Lebron and Kobe that the artists

0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:48.880
<v Speaker 1>and activists of the Tenement community hand painted onto their

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:52.000
<v Speaker 1>home court. Coach Eddie Barbuena told us about the creation

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:55.000
<v Speaker 1>of the famous Kobe mural on the Tenement court, the

0:25:55.119 --> 0:26:01.640
<v Speaker 1>mural of Kobe, Bryant and gig it's very tachi. When

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:07.360
<v Speaker 1>that time happens, all the people gather all around the world. Actually,

0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:12.439
<v Speaker 1>the idea of putting the mural here in the famous

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:16.680
<v Speaker 1>basketball for Tenement is the idea came from the Tenement

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Virtual Artists. We have our Tenement Virtual artist here and

0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:27.440
<v Speaker 1>with cooperation and coordination with the Tahan and Association lead

0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:32.200
<v Speaker 1>by our president Jennifer karpen So, the plan was so

0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:38.320
<v Speaker 1>fast they do the mural for respect and love to

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:43.320
<v Speaker 1>the father and daughter Kobe and Gigi for three days.

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:47.719
<v Speaker 1>They do it that for three days continuously, without a sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>There are the times you'll catch a glimpse of a

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 1>tanker truck passing by and realize as its speeds out

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 1>of sight that it had a gigantic Michael Jordan Jumpman

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 1>logo painted on the back. One of the most intimate

0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:05.560
<v Speaker 1>examples of how deep the nation's love the NBA runs

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:09.359
<v Speaker 1>comes from the number of Filipino parents who choose to

0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:14.159
<v Speaker 1>give their children NBA inspired names. There's no way to

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 1>tell exactly how many of the countries Kevin's or Allan's

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:23.240
<v Speaker 1>were named after Garnette or Durant or Iverson, but I

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:26.480
<v Speaker 1>promise you if we could interview each and every one

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:29.360
<v Speaker 1>of them, you wouldn't believe how many of them would

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:34.159
<v Speaker 1>say they're named after an NBA Grede. Basically, if a

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:37.399
<v Speaker 1>newborn boy in the Philippines isn't named after a saint,

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 1>there's a good chance he'll be named after the next

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<v Speaker 1>holiest figure. An NBA legend. The sidestep moved by Scottie Thompson,

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Steve Nash Enriquez gets it to go because he did

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 1>have a depressive rookie year. He has a right spots

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:55.400
<v Speaker 1>and now he's just looking to build on him. In

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:58.159
<v Speaker 1>case you can't quite believe your ears, I'll slow it

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 1>down for you. That was Scotty Thompson, reigning MVP of

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the PB eight, whose dad named him Scottie after Scottie Pippin.

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:10.399
<v Speaker 1>Then a couple of college players whose namesakes could not

0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 1>be any clearer, National University point guard Steve Nash Enriquez.

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 1>By the way, Steve Nash and Riquez also have a

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:24.679
<v Speaker 1>massive ponytail, and he's like five foot eight on his

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 1>best day, which makes him the best player to cover.

0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I love him, man. I will say this. Though Irvin

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Magic Ramos was my leading candidates to name my son,

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>my wife would have none of it. We eventually named

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 1>him Tyler and depending on how Tyler Hero's career goes.

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh is where al stand with the story Tyler Hero

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 1>becomes an MVP one day, I'll say my son was

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>named after him, and then you just got it. But

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>you have to add Hero with the double R as

0:28:55.520 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 1>the middle name. You know that, right, I don't mind it.

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Tyler Hero Ramos. I don't mind it into it. Actually,

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 1>it's amazing. All right. I think that's our cue to

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 1>take a quick break. But when we come back, we're

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 1>traveling back to nineteen ninety eight. Jaw alone is coupled.

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 1>They shot out of it and stealing up Chicago seventeen seconds,

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 1>seventeen seconds from Game seven Orcal Championship number six. Jordan

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:37.480
<v Speaker 1>open Chicago with the lane. Cassidy, you're from Chicago. I'm

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 1>guessing you recognize that sound. Recognize nineteen ninety eight, Salt

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 1>Lake City. You talk, Michael Jordan, the shot, get off me, Brian,

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 1>even though people called you Byron, your name is Brian

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Russell Stockton. Why don't you tom alone yourself off this court?

0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 1>MJ and the poll second three p. Twenty thousand, cry

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 1>jazz fans. I don't just recognize that sound. I don't

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 1>just appreciate that sound. I am that sound. I cherish

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 1>that sound. All right, Okay, Chicna go easy easy. We

0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 1>all saw the push off, Yes, we all watched it.

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember where you watched MJ? Push off? Brian Russell,

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't see any push off. I don't know what

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about, but I was in eighth grade around

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 1>then the time of the shot and only the shot.

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 1>I was home in my living room watching from the couch,

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 1>like we did every single Bowls playoff game back then,

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:40.080
<v Speaker 1>and my mom was screaming her absolute head off, like

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 1>shrieking every time every time a shot went up, and

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I could hear her sometimes when I'd be taking the

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 1>dog out a walk two blocks down, just screaming Scotty.

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 1>She didn't even scream for Luke Longley, what are you doing,

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:05.480
<v Speaker 1>b J? I had Mom calmed down, You're gonna blood pressure, Mom,

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 1>blood pressure. But that was that was our household. I mean,

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 1>to grow up in the nineties during that era of

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:18.240
<v Speaker 1>the NBA, I mean exactly why I am who I

0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>am and how I ended up where I ended up.

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you're describing my mother with that exact

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 1>same tone and volume. Because the Philippines was thirteen hours

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 1>ahead of Eastern Standard time during that part of the year,

0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>so for me, it was Monday morning and it would

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 1>have been about maybe nine, almost ten years old. In

0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 1>elementary school. I was at the sweet spot of just

0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 1>really beginning to understand basketball and blossoming as a fan.

0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Because of Jordan and the Three Peats, everybody I knew

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>had Bulls Merch and only Bulls Merch for some reason,

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 1>like everyone had relatives in Chicago. Back then, it wasn't

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 1>so easy to watch NBA games on TV. There weren't

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 1>that many options for cable, and most of the games

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>that we did see were incredibly delayed. The stories folks

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 1>tell about the NBA's dark ages in the seventies when

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 1>finals games weren't aired on live TV and came on

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 1>sometime in the middle of the night, after the news

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 1>or after the late night talk shows. We were still

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 1>living in that world at some point in the nineties.

0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>But those limitations forces to get creative, and I remember

0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 1>trying to follow note I say followed not watch that

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 1>game six between Chicago and Utah, and it became one

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 1>of the great basketball experiences of my life. So at school,

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 1>much like many many other schools in the Philippines, we

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 1>had what were called recess runners. So during the school day,

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:51.719
<v Speaker 1>we had a recess period and one of the kids,

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 1>the runner, he'd sprint up to the pay phone to

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>call his cousin, his friend, or whoever it was they

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 1>knew that was wealthy enough or lived far away from

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Manila enough sneak enough to have one of those bootlegs

0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 1>satellites that provided a hazy feed of NBA games. The

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:12.240
<v Speaker 1>runner would call his guy, ask for the score, what

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 1>was happening in the game, how many technicals did Dennis

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Rodman have? What color his hair is? All that stuff?

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 1>And he'd come running one hundred meters back into the

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 1>canteen and yell into the entire student lounge where everybody

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 1>would be their waiting. That morning of game six, the

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:34.479
<v Speaker 1>runner came back. He kind of messed up the story

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 1>of that last play. It's like a classic literal game

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>of telephone because he came back sweat all over him, right,

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>he's gasping for breath, and he said Jordan pushed off.

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 1>He hit the game winner. Jordan pushed Russell the bulls win.

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>That may have been the last shot Michael Jordan will

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 1>ever take in the NBA. What's Joan's left hand here

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:03.240
<v Speaker 1>as he gives Russell the push. Referee can't see that.

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 1>That's the image we had in our minds, in our

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:11.880
<v Speaker 1>minds as ten year olds. Michael Jordan assaulted Bryan Russell,

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:17.400
<v Speaker 1>just physically hurt him. Because the guy on the phone

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 1>told a recess runner that Jordan pushed Russell, and it

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 1>was our only way of knowing what happened in the moment.

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:26.280
<v Speaker 1>And it stayed like that in my mind for about

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:30.000
<v Speaker 1>a month and a half before someone finally lent a

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:33.360
<v Speaker 1>VHS recording of the game from the States. It was

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:35.799
<v Speaker 1>a copy of a copy of a copy. And then

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:41.359
<v Speaker 1>I saw that, yes, MJ initiated some contact on that

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 1>famous play, but it was more like a love tap

0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:47.359
<v Speaker 1>than the crazy shove that we had imagined in our mind.

0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 1>It was physical assault. You're telling me this all started.

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:54.719
<v Speaker 1>All this talk about a push off started from a

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 1>bad game of telephone at your school. That's how this

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:03.720
<v Speaker 1>push off on sense got started. Jay, I'm sorry, City

0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:07.439
<v Speaker 1>of Chicago. I'm sorry it was all because of one guy.

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Have won their sixth NBA championship and it's their second

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:19.319
<v Speaker 1>three people. Looking back on it, though, I'm happy I

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:22.759
<v Speaker 1>lived through those days before streaming and cable made it

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 1>so easy to follow the NBA games. I'm proud that

0:35:26.560 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I came of age during a time when we would

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 1>do literally anything to get a scrap of information about

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>our favorite teams and players, cook up wild schemes just

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:38.920
<v Speaker 1>to hear game updates. Where there's a will, there's a way,

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 1>And when it comes to the Filipinos craving for NBA basketball,

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 1>there's an entire world's worth of willpower coming out of

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:50.279
<v Speaker 1>this small island nation. We asked Donna as if there

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:53.840
<v Speaker 1>were any misconceptions about Pinoy basketball culture that she'd like

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 1>to clear up. Maybe people just aren't aware. Maybe they've

0:35:57.239 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>seen photos or videos of these like makeshift courts. You know,

0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:03.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, all of that is absolutely true. You can

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:07.359
<v Speaker 1>literally find like a makeshift in every neighborhood. But it's

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 1>just that it's not a passing hobby for a lot

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 1>of Filipino fans. It's actually what we're discovering and constantly

0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 1>astounded by this is that Filipino fans are actually quite

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:20.759
<v Speaker 1>sophisticated and knowledgeable about NBA basketball. So if you go

0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 1>up to somebody who's like playing barefoot or in flip blop,

0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:25.920
<v Speaker 1>they actually know the nuances of the game, they know

0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 1>the players, they know the history quite well. So that

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:30.640
<v Speaker 1>might be a little bit surprising to people just how

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:35.359
<v Speaker 1>again sophisticated and knowledgeable Filipino fans are. So much has

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:38.600
<v Speaker 1>changed over the last ten twenty years. I'm gonna kind

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 1>of date myself here by talking about a little bit

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:44.400
<v Speaker 1>about this, but that's really kind of dictated by the

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 1>growing demand for for NBA content. So I guess if

0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:49.960
<v Speaker 1>you go back, like maybe the eighties or nineties, you

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:52.799
<v Speaker 1>really only watch games on a laid basis, you know,

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 1>trying to find ways to watch a game. There used

0:36:56.640 --> 0:36:59.879
<v Speaker 1>to be these two American military basis just north of Manila,

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 1>and they had access to the Far East Network, which

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 1>is guests the Armed Forces Network in the US, So

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:08.360
<v Speaker 1>if you live close enough, you could pick up the

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 1>signal and be able to watch like American television, including

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:15.440
<v Speaker 1>NBA games. And now, of course NBA fans in the

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Philippines can file the league and watch basketball with every

0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 1>waking hour of their days thanks to International League Pass,

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 1>domestic and international media coverage of the league, and cable

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:30.279
<v Speaker 1>channels that run live NBA games in the morning and

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:34.800
<v Speaker 1>replays at night. But they don't take that access for granted, Nope.

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Filipinos are now among the most engaged NBA fans in

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:42.840
<v Speaker 1>the world, and the league has taken notice. But I

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 1>think for the first real change really came about with

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:49.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously the advent of satellite technology and cable TV.

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:52.879
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's more people you know, got PTV subscriptions.

0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:55.920
<v Speaker 1>We went from getting just a few delayed games per

0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:58.480
<v Speaker 1>week and now you have you know, live games daily.

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:01.880
<v Speaker 1>So twenty ten we even launched a twenty four to

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 1>seven NBA channel, which we still have today and we

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:09.160
<v Speaker 1>air now about roughly eighteen games on TV per week.

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:12.040
<v Speaker 1>The game is definitely evolved. A lot of it, I

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 1>think is it just exposure, not just the NBA basketball,

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:19.160
<v Speaker 1>but like you know, international basketball, there's FIBA, you know,

0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:21.760
<v Speaker 1>other professional leagues like the Year League that your Panby

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 1>League on Australian NBA. So if you watch like a

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 1>PBA or a UAP game now you'll see that influence

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:30.440
<v Speaker 1>in their self play, you know. I think again the

0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 1>game has changed a little bit and we're now playing

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more above the rim, but like there's

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:36.360
<v Speaker 1>still a lot of play below the rim, so you

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:38.359
<v Speaker 1>can see a lot of that creativity and just trying

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 1>to get to the basket and trying to make those shots.

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:46.600
<v Speaker 1>You should see the Donner s Ai cross. Nobody has

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:51.240
<v Speaker 1>seen it at this point. I think we've done about

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:55.320
<v Speaker 1>all we can to illustrate just how widespread the Philippines

0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:58.880
<v Speaker 1>basketball obsession is, and how the country's love of the

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:02.720
<v Speaker 1>game runs as deep as it can get. I imagine

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 1>that fifty four thousand people watching a basketball game, I

0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:08.799
<v Speaker 1>mean the regular US NBA arena. It's like, you know,

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, twenty three, You know, this is fifty

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:15.919
<v Speaker 1>three thousand people. It's a love affair. It's a love

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:20.400
<v Speaker 1>affair with the NBA. One part still feels like it's missing.

0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Note we adore basketball, sure, but why what part of

0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 1>our history turned the Philippines into a nation of hoop

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:31.160
<v Speaker 1>heads rather than a country full of soccer or cricket

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 1>or baseball fans. Listen to episode two of Hoops Paradise,

0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 1>The Philippines Love of the Game to find out. Available

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:43.239
<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 1>your podcasts.