1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Welcome in our number three Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Encourage you 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: to go download the podcast and make sure you don't 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: miss a single moment of our discussion. We've been breaking 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: down the second attempt at assassination of President Trump and 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: everything that it entails. Much of that discussion in the 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: first couple of hours. We're going to be joined by 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: Carol Markowitz here in a bit, who broke the news 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: about who had been arrested as the attempt at assassin, 10 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: and see what she thinks of all the media coverage. 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: We began though, right. 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: Here in the third hour with the man running for 13 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: Senate as the Republican nominee in Wisconsin, a state that 14 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: I just got back from visiting for the Alabama Wisconsin game. 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: I am sorry that we didn't end up getting to 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: hang out. I had so many different moving parts there 17 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: with my kids and birthday parties and everything else that 18 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: was going on. Senator future Senator I hope Eric Covedy, 19 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: We'll get into that in a moment, but I want 20 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: to just start. What was your reaction when you heard 21 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: the news that they had attempted to assassinate Trump again, 22 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: a man citing democracy, big Ukraine supporter, someone who in 23 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: many ways parrots what Kamala Harris and Joe Biden say 24 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: every single day. 25 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 2: What was your reaction? Saddened and angry? 26 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 3: Look if you think of all that they've tried to 27 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: do to President Trump, they've tried to bankrupt him, they've 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: tried to put him in jail, now two different assassination attempts. 29 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 3: I love how they always guess, like spinning, they're defending democracy. 30 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 3: They've turned our justice system, you know, weaponized our justice system. 31 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: They've turned our courts into political theater. They've tried to 32 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 3: block ballid access, not just for President Trump, Robert F. Kennedy, 33 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: the No Labels Unity ticket. I mean, these people bull 34 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: have no morals, no ethics, And you know they say, oh, 35 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: it's President Trump's tone. I don't ever recall President Trump 36 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: saying half of American voters are deplorable. I don't ever 37 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: remember President Trump saying half of American voters are racist massagynists. 38 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 3: But that's the rhetic they use, and they basically call 39 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 3: President Trump hitler. I mean the senator I'm running against, 40 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 3: Tammy Baldwin, said he's the most dangerous man with a 41 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: dark soul. What do you think you're going to engender 42 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 3: when you're you you've seen that kind of it's angry 43 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: and it's sickening, and man, oh man, thank god he 44 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 3: was safe again. 45 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 4: Eric, you are no stranger to a lot of really 46 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 4: aggressive rhetoric, giving that you're running up in Wisconsin against 47 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 4: a very entrenched machine Democrat in Tammy Baldwin. Tell us 48 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 4: the latest and how that race is going. You know, 49 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 4: there is a scenario where Senate control could hinge on 50 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 4: whether you're able to win or not. What's the latest 51 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 4: that we can we can look at from from Wisconsin. 52 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 3: Look, Wisconsin's the key battleground state. That's why so much 53 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: money is being spent here in both President Trump and 54 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris. I'm going up against one of the most 55 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 3: radicals progressive left, you know, supports boys pete competing in 56 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: girls sports. Gave all our taxpayer money to a transgender 57 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: clinic that does that with kids, that doesn't notify parents. 58 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: I mean that's where she is open the southern borders. 59 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 3: So the race is going, well, I'm in a jump 60 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: ball race a couple points down. I think I'm better 61 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 3: positioned other than Tim Sheehy and obviously West Virginia is over, 62 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 3: but than any other Senate candidates. But man, are they 63 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: spending money on me. They're making up one lie after another. 64 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: I think I've had more money spent by Chuck Schumer 65 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: and all the Democrat special interest groups just hammering me, 66 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: and literally everything is a lie. She has nothing to 67 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: run on, but you know, the momentum is in my direction. 68 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: But look, I need everybody's help. You know, if you 69 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 3: can pitch in a few dollars, go to erichovedy dot 70 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 3: com because these races are ungodly expensive and they just 71 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 3: keep pouring attack money and that's how they win. 72 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 2: And she won't even debate. 73 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: She's such a chicken. I'm getting one debate at the 74 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 3: end of the campaign when typically you get three to four, 75 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 3: and we already would have had at least two. So 76 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 3: that's what I'm running against, an extreme progressive lefty, and 77 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 3: I plan to win this race. 78 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: You're a lifelong resident of Madison City. I was just 79 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: visiting fantastic city. There anyone listening to your accent? I 80 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: know because I'm married to a girl from the Midwest, 81 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: and believe it or not, you can tell where someone's 82 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: raised often by how they talk. You could probably tell 83 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: that you're from Wisconsin and you've spent most of your 84 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: life there. It's a sign I think of how desperate 85 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: they are that they're trying to claim that you are 86 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: not a native of Wisconsin, that you don't still live there. 87 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: What does that attack tell you? And what are people 88 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: saying when they see those attacks? 89 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: It's desperation. 90 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 3: Look, I'm a fourth generation Wisconsin I born here, raised here, 91 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 3: went to University of Wisconsin. I'm standing in my company building, 92 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: the Hubby Building off the Square, where I have my 93 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 3: development company, where we do have development projects all over 94 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 3: the state. But because I've been successful and I have 95 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: owned businesses elsewhere, they try to attach me to California. 96 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: Because I own a bank that operates in California. It 97 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 3: used to be headquartered there. I moved at the Salt 98 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: Lake because California is such a pain to do business 99 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: with him. But that's what they're down to, trying to 100 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 3: say that I'm not a Wisconsin I it's a joke. 101 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 3: I live here, I vote here, I pay my income 102 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: taxes here. But they're trying to spend that story. But man, 103 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 3: they have so many other lies. It's crazy taking things 104 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: out of context a few words and extrapolating a totally 105 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 3: different meaning or just outright line. I just came from 106 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 3: getting the trying to get the investment from the Wisconsin 107 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: Police Association, and Senator Baldwin actually said I was opposed 108 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 3: to this ventanyl bill by Tim Scott, and Tim Scott 109 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 3: and I are buddies. I totally support it. So she 110 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 3: totally lied about that, and she's trying to take credit 111 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 3: that it's her bill when Tim Scott wrote it and 112 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: he said he's never even talked to Tammy Baldwin. She 113 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: jumped on that bill as like the fortieth senator after 114 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 3: I started criticizing her for doing nothing on fentanyl. 115 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 2: That's what they're left with. They have nothing. 116 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 4: Speaking of Eric Hovedy, he's running in Wisconsin for a 117 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 4: Senate seat against Tamy bald when a critical race. You 118 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:12,679 Speaker 4: know the Wisconsin battleground as well as anybody. Eric, you're eating, sleeping, 119 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 4: breathing the fight for Wisconsin right now. How do you 120 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 4: think President Trump is looking and what's the critical message 121 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 4: to hammer home for that last whatever it is, that 122 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 4: last fifty one hundred thousand voters that will make the 123 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 4: difference in your state. 124 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 3: Look, my guess is President Trump is winning Wisconsin always underpolls, 125 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 3: Trump more than any other state. You can see it 126 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: in sixteen when he is supposed to lose by six points, 127 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 3: and in twenty, when he lost by less than a percent, 128 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 3: he is supposed to lose by almost seven percent. So 129 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 3: I think President Trump, who's they say, according to the 130 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 3: polls tied. I think he's winning right now. I'm pretty 131 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: sure about that. But the big issue is he has 132 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: to stay on message. Just hammer the economy, hammer the 133 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: consequences of our open border, hammer all how crazy, Kamala Harris, 134 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: just like I'm addressing Senator Baldwin. I mean, this is 135 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 3: the progressive socialist left, and I'm telling you, folks, I'm 136 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: in this race for one reason. I love my country 137 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 3: and we're losing our country. Everybody has to get involved. 138 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 3: I can't be successful without your help. I need your 139 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: financial help. I need you telling your friends, I need 140 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: you doing whatever you can. If you live in the 141 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 3: state of Wisconsin, or even outside the state, I'm sure 142 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: you know people in Wisconsin. So we need to win 143 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: at the president level. We need to take back the 144 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 3: US Senate and we need to restore this country because 145 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 3: where they've taken this country and where they plan to 146 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 3: take it, we won't even recognize it anymore. So Look, 147 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: I feel good, but we got to stay on message 148 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: and just hammer them for what they've done because they've 149 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 3: sent this country in a very bad path. 150 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: Much less seriously, we're talking to, hopefully the next Senator 151 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: from Wisconsin, Eric Hovedy. I had an amazing time. I 152 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: had my whole family up. We went to the Wisconsin 153 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: Alabama game. I'd never been to Camp Randall. Met a 154 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: lot of awesome Wisconsin and Alabama fans. 155 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: All day long. I know you went to the game. 156 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: I know you tailgated, you graduated from the University of Wisconsin. 157 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: I know you've been to a lot of games. It 158 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: was a perfect day. What was your take from a 159 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: pretty extraordinary experience for anybody who got to go to 160 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: that game on Saturday. 161 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 3: Look, Camp Randall's always known as one of the coolest 162 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 3: places to go to a football game. It's not surrounded 163 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 3: like the Big House in Michigan by parking lots. You 164 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: have streets, bars. It's just a cool spot. The people 165 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 3: are very friendly. It's like Lambell always voted you know, 166 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 3: the number one pro football place to go watch a game, 167 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 3: stadium to watch. So it was a great day. It 168 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 3: was hot for us, but you know, it was unfortunate 169 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 3: the Badgers didn't play that well. We made two critical turnovers, 170 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 3: a couple just devastating penalties, and frankly, Alabama just had 171 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 3: too much speed at their wide receiver matched up, so 172 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 3: it didn't turn into a pretty game. It should have 173 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: been a much tighter game, but some critical mistakes. But look, 174 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 3: I always love going to Badger games. I've had season tickets. 175 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 3: My dad bought him in the sixties. I bought him 176 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 3: from my dad in nineteen ninety two, so it's part 177 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 3: of a big part of my life. Fortunately for me, 178 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: I was up at the Packer game and they pulled 179 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: off a victory with a backup quarterback who's only been 180 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 3: on our roster for three weeks. So that was a 181 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 3: little ointment for the pain of the Badger loss. 182 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: No doubt, that was the heck of a win. 183 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 1: Malik Willis starting quarterback there had barely been in Green 184 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: Bay at all, got to win over Unfortunately, because I 185 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: bet against it got the win there. I did not 186 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: think that they beat the Colts. We really appreciate you 187 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: one more time. On your way out, can you give 188 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: people the web address of where they could go to 189 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: help flip the Senate and support you. 190 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: Thank you, Eric I C H D h o VD 191 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 3: dot com. 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I'm all fired up about what's going on. 225 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: You take it Bucks here. 226 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 5: I think I think they know that we're back on 227 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 5: the air, So it's play It's Buck. I'm Bucky's Clay. 228 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: Uh. 229 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 5: So we have Carol Mark which joining us just want 230 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 5: to say that Carol is. 231 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 4: Uh is phenomenal, and she's on the Klan Buck podcast network, 232 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 4: which I hope all of your subscribing to. Uh, the 233 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 4: Sean Parnell Show is there, Carol's there, Lisa Booth, Hooter Dixon, 234 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 4: and every month they're growing. And there's so many podcasts, 235 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 4: so much competition out there, but quality is quality, and 236 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 4: those podcasts are growing month in and month out, thanks 237 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 4: to all of you, so. 238 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 2: Please do subscribe. 239 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 4: She was the first person, as far as I know, 240 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 4: in media to have a photo of the attempted assassin 241 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 4: against Donald Trump from Sunday. So Carol has tremendous sources 242 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 4: and and we're going to talk to her here shortly 243 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 4: about what she found, what the social media UH profile 244 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 4: is of this individual she was. She she's very smart. 245 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 4: She got in there right away. You know, they pulled 246 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 4: down on your Facebook if you're one of these, you know, 247 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 4: lunatic assassin types. And I was wondering why, like, who 248 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 4: makes that decision? They pulled down the Facebook. She took 249 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 4: screenshots though, so she's got a lot of information to 250 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 4: share with all of you about what did this guy believe? 251 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 4: Who was he? And it's gonna be harder for them 252 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 4: this time around that it has been I think in 253 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 4: previous incidents where they try to memory hole the politics 254 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 4: of a I would be assassin or a mass shooter. 255 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 4: So we'll get into some of that. Also, VIPs clanbuck 256 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 4: dot com sign up become a VIP, got a bunch 257 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 4: of VIP emails here. 258 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: Uh, David writes. 259 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 4: Why are they posting Trump's schedule a day after another 260 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 4: assassination attempt? MSNBC has a full graphic with all of 261 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 4: his locations. David, there are, as I understand it, and I, 262 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 4: you know, never worked on a presidential detailed secret Service otherwise, 263 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 4: but as I understand it, there are you know, the 264 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 4: president travels with it, or I should say Trump. There's 265 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 4: presspool that can travel with individuals that have Secret Service protection. 266 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: Uh. 267 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 4: There's public events there. There's the stuff that's known. This 268 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 4: golf outing went into this area of not announced. 269 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 5: Publicly Clay, but if you live in the. 270 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 4: West Palm area or just in Florida generally, uh, you know, 271 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 4: everyone kind of knows that Trump goes to play golf 272 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like, it's just word gets 273 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 4: out that this was a regular golf game. It's a 274 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 4: It's a Sunday in Florida. Trump's playing golf, probably at 275 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 4: his course near mar Alago. 276 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: And now I wonder if I. 277 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: Wonder if there's going to be data that comes out 278 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: Buck that they find out this guy had been going 279 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: to the golf course before, and this wasn't the first 280 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: time that he had gone and potentially set up, and 281 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: that he had scouted this area substantially, because you know, 282 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: to end up in the bushes with protective ceramics, a scope, 283 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: a go pro and the gun. It seems unlikely to 284 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: me this was the first time that he had ever 285 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: been there. It feels like something you would be scouting 286 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: out on your own. And look, I'm a golfer and 287 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: often an errant golfer. It's not uncommon for people to 288 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: walk along golf courses for exercise or to be in 289 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: the proximity of that course. He could have been walking 290 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: along down through there. A lot of times guys look 291 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: for lost golf balls in the woods. I've put a 292 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: lot of trust me a lot of lost golf balls 293 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: in the woods, So I bet even someone walking along 294 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: this course and behaving in the manner that he might 295 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: have to have scouted it out would not be a 296 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: huge surprise. The question I'm getting the most and a 297 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: bunch of people are asking in the VIP and I'm 298 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: curious what your answer would be, why does Trump at 299 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: this point not retain his own. 300 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: Private security detail. I have asked that question. 301 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: The response that I have gotten is it's actually way 302 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: more complicated to have a private security detail that is 303 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: substantial than a lot of people realize, because there's a 304 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: huge amount of interaction that goes on between the Secret Service, 305 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: local law enforcement, all of the scheduling aspects for that, 306 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: and so if you just got a bunch of badass seals, 307 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: they don't necessarily have the connections to be dealing with 308 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: the local police on travel and all those other different aspects. 309 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 4: They're also not going to have, uh, they're not going 310 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 4: to have the same protections if they have to be 311 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 4: an a lethal force incident that law enforcement would. You know, 312 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 4: if you're if you're private security and you fire a 313 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 4: bunch of rounds, you're not law enforcement, you're private security. Yeah, 314 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 4: and you know, you know, if you hit somebody they 315 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 4: could sue you. I mean, you know, there's a whole 316 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,479 Speaker 4: lot of it's and you think about also, I mean 317 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 4: the kind of weaponry. Mean, secret Service guys can walk 318 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 4: around with you know, open carrying uh an M sixty 319 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 4: if they want to. I mean they tend not to. 320 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 4: But there are limitations on what private security would be 321 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 4: able to have, even in a state like Florida. Never mind, 322 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 4: what if you've got to travel in New York. Yeah, 323 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 4: you know, good luck with your private security issues now. 324 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 4: So it's it is more compon. It's not like it 325 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 4: is overseas with the Blackwater and stuff. Well, we'll talk 326 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 4: to Eric, maybe Eric Prince about that. 327 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: We'll see what he says. 328 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 4: You know, for years I've been working with the folks 329 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 4: over at Stansbury Research, which produces some of the best 330 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 4: financial research you can get anywhere, and then just put 331 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 4: out a fascinating report. It's about how across America strange 332 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 4: so called accidents are happening. We've seen a plane falling 333 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 4: apart mid flight. We've witnessed reports of nine one one 334 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,959 Speaker 4: call centers going offline for hours at a time. Last year, 335 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 4: there were more than forty seven hundred train accidents and 336 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 4: average thirteen a day. I'm sure you've taken a note 337 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 4: of this too. Why is it all happening though? Learn 338 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 4: why so many big accidents are happening in America today 339 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 4: and exactly where and when the next big accident is 340 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 4: most likely to occur could very well affect you, especially 341 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 4: if you have money in the bank or in the markets. 342 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 4: You're not going to read this story anywhere else. Check 343 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 4: it out now America disaster dot com. Get the full 344 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 4: story on the big accident that's coming America disaster dot com. 345 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back in and Clay, Travis Bucks and Show appreciate 346 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: all of you hanging out with us. We are joined 347 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: now by our friend Carol Marco. It's part of the 348 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck podcast and network. Carol was the first 349 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: person to have a photo of the would be assassin 350 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: and report that he had been arrested. Carol, first of all, 351 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: great job reporting on this story. 352 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 2: Kind of walk. 353 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: Us through, if you would, what your understanding was over 354 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: the course of the day associated with this story as 355 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: it emerged and as the facts have continued to come out. 356 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 6: Hi, guys, so nice to be on with you both, 357 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 6: even though it's such a sad and somber day to day. 358 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 7: You know. 359 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 6: The first thing is that when the initial story broke 360 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 6: where it was a gunfight in West Palm Beach in 361 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 6: the middle of the day, it just sounded completely not 362 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 6: plausible to me. I get that there are bad areas 363 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 6: in Palm Beach, West Palm Beach, as they are of 364 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 6: course anywhere, but in middle of the day shootout in 365 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 6: front of a golf course, it really doesn't quite sound 366 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 6: right for the area. So immediately I was thinking that 367 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 6: this doesn't make sense. And then I got a very 368 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 6: reliable tip with the photo of the shooter or the 369 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 6: potential shooter, and I had information about him, such as 370 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 6: his political views, and I shared that on x and it. 371 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 6: You know, the idea today that he was a political 372 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 6: or he didn't have a political perspective is just makes 373 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 6: no sense when you look at his social media and 374 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 6: the game that the Democrats are trying to play, where oh, 375 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 6: he could be a Trump supporter who tried to kill 376 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 6: him is just ridiculous. The idea that he liked vivec 377 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 6: or Nikki Haley, Yeah, he liked them to stop Donald Trump. 378 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 6: So let's be real here, Carol. 379 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 4: You also, and you know, congratulations just it's funny. We 380 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 4: don't talk about journalism very often, but finding out facts 381 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 4: before the rest of the media being correct. You know, 382 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 4: those are things that are supposed to matter to the 383 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 4: journals out there. But you know, it's just interesting. 384 00:20:59,359 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 7: Nice. 385 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're. 386 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 4: Able to do that job and do it as well 387 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 4: as anybody in the game, better than the rest in 388 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 4: the game. And I'm sure you didn't get a lot 389 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 4: of people from the New York Times saying. 390 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:10,479 Speaker 5: Great work, Carol Marquis. 391 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 4: But anyway, we all were there to stay in like 392 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 4: a badge, like a badge of honor. You also, though, 393 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 4: have been able to go into the shooter social media 394 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 4: and as we look at mindset, motivation and political affiliation, 395 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 4: what can you tell us about you know, who was 396 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 4: this guy as far as beliefs, what mattered to him, 397 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 4: and where he was from coming from on the political spectrum. 398 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:40,959 Speaker 6: Well, his social media had again words that Kamala Harris 399 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 6: herself has used that Donald Trump as a threat to democracy. 400 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 6: He was very involved in the cause of the Ukraine War. 401 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 6: He was recruiting fighters to go and fight there. He 402 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 6: had an anti Israel perspective, really typical left of center perspectives. Basically, 403 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 6: I think that his politics are entirely in line with 404 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 6: most average Democrats. And again to say this does not 405 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 6: mean to blame every Democrat in the country for potential 406 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 6: assassinations of Donald Trump. But the leadership of the Democratic 407 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 6: Party has just embraced this insane rhetoric against Trump. They 408 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 6: have to be held accountable here. That rhetoric really does matter. 409 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 6: Imagine if Kamala Harris had been targeted for assassination twice 410 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 6: in like two months. I mean, the country would lose 411 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 6: their mind the media would lose their minds, and it 412 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 6: would just be wall to wall accusations of Republicans that 413 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 6: they brought this on Kamala and so I think it's 414 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 6: the exact same thing in reverse. The Democrats really do 415 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 6: have to have some sort of standard here where they 416 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 6: understand that they can't keep talking like this about a 417 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 6: major presidential candidate nominee. It's not some fringe guy. He is, 418 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 6: you know, one of the two major parties. This is 419 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 6: the presidential candidate. You have to stop this. 420 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: Carol after Butler pa I said, there were only two 421 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: options on how that individual was able to get the 422 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: shots on Trump that he did. One was gross potentially 423 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: criminal negligence. That is a standard of law where it's 424 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: just completely unacceptable negligence basically. Second, was it was intentional? 425 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: Now that this has nearly happened again, isn't it hard 426 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: to feel like this isn't instead of a glitch in 427 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: the system, part of a system that's designed to not 428 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: provide Trump the protection he needs. I mean, you even 429 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: had Joe Biden walking out of the White House saying 430 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: there aren't enough Secret Service agents. I think the federal 431 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: budget is six trillion dollars right now, we're running a 432 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: two trillion dollar deficit. Is it really the case that 433 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: we can't afford to hire and train people to protect Trump? 434 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 7: Right? 435 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 6: I mean, that's a great question. And the thing is 436 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 6: that the security apparatus has to see it as either 437 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 6: this is happening on purpose and I'm not a firacy theorists, 438 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 6: but the only other option is gross incompetence. So which 439 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 6: one of these does the Secret Service want to be? 440 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 6: How do you get away from the fact that this 441 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 6: has come so close to happening to him again? And 442 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 6: it's just it's terrifying tim ed. And the last story 443 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 6: I saw was that he was in the bushes for hours? 444 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 6: How do they miss that? How do they not see 445 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 6: somebody in the bushes for hours and hours that is 446 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 6: that close in proximity to Donald Trump? It's really scary. 447 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 6: I'm terrified to imagine what would have happened if godrivid, 448 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 6: you know, he had gotten a shot off, and what 449 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 6: we would be talking about today. It's it really Our 450 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 6: country is teetering, and stuff like this really really adds 451 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 6: to it. 452 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 5: Wasn't he arrested with like a pink T shirt? 453 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 3: On? 454 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 5: Am I right about that? Some brightly colored Yeah? 455 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 4: I bring it up because and you know you had 456 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 4: that photo and you shared it. 457 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 2: It was the right photo. 458 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, the accurate photo of who the 459 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 5: shoe or was. 460 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 4: It's not like he was wearing a gilly suit and 461 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 4: you know, had real tactical proficiency. I mean, this is 462 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 4: a guy, from what we can tell, who is kind 463 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 4: of a loon, but has been around you know, he's 464 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 4: he's been in some different videos that you've seen. Did 465 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 4: they profile him for trying to bring fighters to Ukraine? 466 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 4: And and he wears a pink T shirt and sets 467 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 4: up My point is just like this isn't like somebody 468 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 4: with a tremendous skill set for this kind of an act. 469 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 4: Who got really close. It's some loon with a pink 470 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 4: shirt on and a rifle just waiting in the bushes. 471 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's it. And the other thing is that picture 472 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 6: that I posted. It was taken when he was arrested 473 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 6: in Martin County, which is the next county up from 474 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 6: Palm Beach County. So he had managed to really get 475 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 6: away pretty far. The idea that you know, they had 476 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 6: apprehended him and sort of in the act or something 477 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 6: is just not plausible here that he basically got away 478 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 6: and they managed to catch up with him. So all 479 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 6: of this is scary. I would hope that there's a 480 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 6: real serious review this time around about the security that 481 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 6: Donald Trump has, what he deserves, what it means that 482 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 6: he's had two attempts on his life during this campaign. 483 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 6: I think they need to take it just another level 484 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 6: of seriousness. And you know, I would hope that none 485 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 6: of this is on purpose. Obviously, I don't want to 486 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 6: live in a country where the Secret Service is trying 487 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 6: to take out one of the presidential candidates. I don't 488 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 6: want to believe any of that. I but again, the 489 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 6: options are it's either on purpose or it's incompetence, and 490 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 6: neither one of those are good for America one hundred percent. 491 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: And the more times you're incompetent, the least you can 492 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: defend it as just in competence, because over time, as 493 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: you continue to be incompetent. No one was really held 494 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 1: responsible for Butler pa the acting Secret Service Director, had 495 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: to step down. But it's not like there were tons 496 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: of people fired and there were major consequences for that failure. 497 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: Now it happens again. Caroly, You just you've been in 498 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: the media a long time. I think this is so important. 499 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: Even on Tuesday last week, six days ago, in the debate, 500 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: they asked Donald Trump directly about jan six. To my knowledge, 501 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: there is yet to be any question because Kamala Harris 502 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: doesn't do media availabilities asking her about the language that 503 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: was directly pulled from her speeches or Joe Biden's speeches 504 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: that were in the tweets from this guy who tried 505 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: to kill Trump. What would the media do if this 506 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: was reversed? In other words, Kamala Harris or Joe Biden 507 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,479 Speaker 1: had been targeted in sixty five days, and what does 508 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: it say about their power to dictate the direction of 509 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: stories that they still have managed to make Jan six 510 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: the story nearly four years later, and with two assassination 511 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: attempts on Trump in sixty five days, they're managing to 512 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: somehow not make that the story. 513 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 2: If it were reversed, this would be all we heard about. 514 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 6: Oh absolutely, it would be wall to wall coverage. That 515 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 6: debate was egregious. The moderating was the worst I've ever seen, 516 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 6: and that's really saying something because we've had some bad 517 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 6: moderating over the years. They were completely you know, involved 518 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 6: in the answers that Kamala Harris is giving. She was 519 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 6: an access thought there. She didn't need to be there. 520 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 6: He was debating the moderators. So I think that we 521 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 6: have such a not just bias, but bias to the 522 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 6: point of being corrupt. Media that doesn't care about getting 523 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 6: the story out, doesn't care about the truth, just wants 524 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 6: to cover up for their preferred candidate. The fact that 525 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 6: they're not pushing Kamala interviews, you know, just on that 526 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 6: basis they should want the interview, right, But nobody's saying anything. 527 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 6: Nobody's saying, hey, it's weird that one of the presidential 528 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 6: candidates is not sitting down with us at all. So 529 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 6: I feel like we, I don't know, we're in a 530 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 6: bad place with the news. And there are a lot 531 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 6: of alternate news obviously, you know Clayton Buck Show is 532 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 6: one example of that. But the fact that they continue 533 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 6: to have so much sway over the country and what 534 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 6: stories get told and what stories don't is again very 535 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 6: scary to me. 536 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 4: You know, I've seen Carol. There are people suggesting that 537 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 4: jd Vance, for example, should start off every interview by saying, Hey, 538 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 4: when was your last request into Kamala Harris for an 539 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 4: interview and has she agreed to it? And just do 540 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 4: it in every single interview. He and I actually don't 541 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 4: think it's a bad idea because it would be an opera. 542 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 4: If they won't say it, he should find a way 543 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 4: to say it in the interview because it is so outrageous. 544 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 4: It's so obvious that there is a media collusion to 545 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 4: hide Kamala from the voters. That's the whole game. Hide 546 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 4: the person you want to be president from the people 547 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 4: so then they can be lied to by the media 548 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 4: on her behalf and not know what's what I think 549 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 4: you should do that. I think also it's funny because 550 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 4: you know, you know, there's that passive aggressive thing that 551 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 4: the media will do, especially on the Sunday shows. You know, 552 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 4: we asked Senator so and so to come on, and like, 553 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 4: you know, they decline, where like they haven't responded. Yeah, 554 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 4: they should have to say that every time they talk 555 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 4: to anyone who's Trump or Trump adjacent, because what about 556 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 4: Kamala's campaign? Are they being asked? Are they turning it down? 557 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 6: Yep, that's a fantastic point. I think Jade Vance has 558 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 6: been doing a really good job of pointing out a 559 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 6: lot of the hypocrisy. I think his comment to Dana 560 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 6: Bash this week about how she provided multiple choice answers 561 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 6: to her one interview with Kamala Harris was a great 562 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 6: and very pointed I think that, yes, absolutely, that's what 563 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 6: the Trump's campaign should be doing. The reality is is 564 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 6: that the last time Kamala ran was twenty twenty, which 565 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 6: was a particularly crazy time for Democrats. So she's going 566 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 6: to have to defend positions like allowing transgender surgeries for 567 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 6: illegal immigrants who are in prison, and that was a 568 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 6: position that she had in twenty twenty. And the thing 569 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 6: is they didn't even portray it as a crazy position 570 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 6: back then. That were the idea of giving getting rid 571 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 6: of private health care, or giving healthcare to every single 572 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 6: illegal immigrant that comes into the country, all of these things. 573 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 6: Because she was in a Democratic primary and she got 574 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 6: to say the craziest things possible. She will have to 575 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 6: walk those back or you know, maybe still support them. 576 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 6: But she's in a situation where she has said a 577 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 6: lot of really insane things and the media wants to 578 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 6: protect her from having to defend those things. That's where we. 579 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: Are, including reparations, Carol, where do we go? She supported reparations, 580 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: hasn't even been asked or even clarified what her position 581 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: is through anonymous sources in her campaign. Yet, what happens next? 582 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: Where do we go from here? Sitting fifty days, seven 583 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: weeks in, a day away from official election day, ooh, 584 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: what happens next? 585 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 6: That's you know, the landscape keeps changing. Obviously the debate 586 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 6: is now completely out of the news. But look, they're 587 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 6: going to try to walk away from this story as 588 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 6: quickly as possible, So it's going to go back to 589 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 6: Kamala's the Great Savior within a few days. Probably. I 590 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 6: don't know where we go if I had to bet today, 591 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 6: and I am a betting woman. I would say Donald 592 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 6: Trump wins the election based on the swing state polls 593 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 6: that I've seen, but anything is possible. Perhaps he can 594 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 6: stop saying things like I hate Taylor Swift and just 595 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 6: focus on the issues where he actually manages to shine. 596 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: I was going to ask you about that too, because 597 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: you and your daughter went to watch a Taylor Swift concert, 598 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: and I would imagine that of all the people you 599 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: could go after. I understand that Taylor Swift has endorsed 600 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. Taylor Swift is not actually a very malign 601 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: cultural influence, particularly when you consider most people in music today. 602 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 6: But the message that I give to my daughter, and 603 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 6: the message that I think I would hope most people have, 604 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 6: is don't look to celebrities for your political affiliation. Don't 605 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 6: listen to celebrities on politics. They don't know anything. Her 606 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 6: endorsement to me sounded so canned. They obviously had it 607 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 6: ready to go after the debate in case Kamala Harris 608 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 6: had a bad debate night, which is what they were 609 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 6: probably expecting. So I, you know, I liked the barstool 610 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 6: guy if it had his name, but he, you know, 611 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 6: he loves Taylor Swift. He's a huge Taylor Swift fan. 612 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 6: He said, that's great. I'm voting for Donald Trump. 613 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: So and also, thank you, Carol, and i'd encourage you 614 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: to go subscribe Carol Marco It's podcast. He's doing an 615 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: absolutely phenomenal job as part of the Clay and Buck 616 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: podcast network. 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The iHeart app a great place 661 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 4: to do that, and I highly recommend you do. 662 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 6: Show. 663 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 4: We got a pretty quick term, but I want to 664 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 4: get some calls in here. Kirk in Eau Claire, Wisconsin, 665 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 4: what's going on? 666 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 5: Kirk? 667 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 7: Hey, guys, I'm a voter in western Wisconsin. I just 668 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 7: want to tell you that from my observation, Eric Hubdy 669 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 7: is swimming upstream against the very fast current. The Democrats 670 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 7: have come up with four different commercials and video clips 671 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 7: of him and his own words, saying he wants to 672 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 7: cut those security and Medicare and that senior people in 673 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 7: nursing homes are too old to book and so oh, 674 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 7: and he's a rich California banker. 675 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 8: And I think that they've defined him and you cannot 676 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 8: turn on the television for a half hour without seeing 677 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 8: three or four of these commercials. At the same time, 678 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 8: they've defined Cammy as the person who is very much 679 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 8: in supportive border security. 680 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:24,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. 681 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: Thanks, We're gonna have to cut you off. We know 682 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 1: they're lying. Here's what you need to remember. Ron Johnson 683 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 1: was down in the polling six or seven points in 684 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, and he came back and won. They did 685 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: not have a lot of faith in him in twenty 686 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: twenty two, and he won as well. You gotta just 687 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: keep going after it. And the numbers are there in Wisconsin. 688 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,439 Speaker 1: We know it's gonna be close. They're spending money trying 689 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: to convince you that he's not what he is. He's 690 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,879 Speaker 1: way better than Tammy Baldwin Wisconsin. You got a lot 691 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: of choices to make, make the right ones. Trump and 692 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: Hubby