Speaker 1: No, no, come home, no come home, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: Come home, come home, come.
Speaker 1: Home. On this episode of The Heat Check, I tell
Speaker 1: you what.
Speaker 2: We get into some trade deadline talk, what is happening
Speaker 2: in Toronto, one of the most interesting teams in the
Speaker 2: league that have some moves to be made. We get
Speaker 2: into exactly what I said we'd go wrong about the
Speaker 2: Chicago Bulls and why it actually happened, and is Donald.
Speaker 1: Mitchel about to leave Utah? It seems like it might
Speaker 1: be happening. All right, brob, drop that motherfucking beat.
Speaker 2: I'm perfectly gone at it, sir.
Speaker 1: I don't get on this side exist, don't.
Speaker 2: Make by mother bu my same went next like.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm perfect. We are crawling onto the trade deadline,
Speaker 1: just crawling. No moves have been made.
Speaker 2: Two weeks is left, nothing notable has happened. Fuck you know,
Speaker 2: I'd like to see some motion.
Speaker 1: As Drake would say, I guess that's just emotion. Oh
Speaker 1: that's what I was listening to on the way.
Speaker 2: But the part the team, for me, that's the hardest
Speaker 2: to dissect, the hardest to predict, the hardest to figure
Speaker 2: out who they are, what their identity is now, what
Speaker 2: their identity will be is the Toronto Raptors. They are long,
Speaker 2: they are switchable, they are young. They can compete with
Speaker 2: almost anybody on any given night. They could also lose
Speaker 2: to almost anybody.
Speaker 1: On any given night.
Speaker 2: Team full of stretch threes and stretch forwards. Everyone on
Speaker 2: this roster basically basically a six seven.
Speaker 1: We haven't talked about you about.
Speaker 2: The Raptors lately because they've been bad, but they have
Speaker 2: resurrected their season after they had COVID on COVID on
Speaker 2: Covid COVID. Team is nine and six in their last fifteen.
Speaker 2: They are in the ninth spot currently in the East.
Speaker 2: But but but but just four games out of six seeds,
Speaker 2: just four games out of not being a play in tournament.
Speaker 1: Who you never know? You never know.
Speaker 2: When the Atlanta Hawks were a five seed and they
Speaker 2: end up in the Eastern Conference Final, you never know.
Speaker 1: That's the optimistic side of me.
Speaker 2: All of that leads me to a fun little hypothetical. So, Okay,
Speaker 2: you're a five hundred team, right, You're playing better now
Speaker 2: than at any point in the season. You're in a
Speaker 2: year where there is no real clear cut favorite, like
Speaker 2: the Bucks are there and the Nets of course got
Speaker 2: something to say.
Speaker 1: But I mean, come on, so.
Speaker 2: You know the Bucks are healthy, but they just got
Speaker 2: blown out by the Calves. Right, the Nets are healthy,
Speaker 2: but they just lost to the Lakers. Lakers aren't really healthy.
Speaker 2: But you're coming up on the trade deadline. So you
Speaker 2: got two options. You make every effort that you can
Speaker 2: to improve the team now, even if it means that
Speaker 2: you move away from the quote unquote plan that you
Speaker 2: might have for the future. Or do you just continue
Speaker 2: to say we're young, we're dumb, and we're having fun,
Speaker 2: knowing that you're in injury away from falling back into
Speaker 2: the lottery just like you did last year because you
Speaker 2: play your starters more than any other team in the
Speaker 2: entire league.
Speaker 1: That's fact.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the mental pretzel for my man Nick Nurse
Speaker 2: and my man Messi u Jeri.
Speaker 1: So not a big deal, kind of a big deal.
Speaker 2: I was texting back and forth with Nick Nurse the
Speaker 2: other day and I asked him about his thoughts on
Speaker 2: the team, and he says, this is exactly what he says.
Speaker 1: This is tremendous. Just think about this quote. Let it
Speaker 1: soak in. We're pretty good. We have no depth, but
Speaker 1: I like my five to six guys.
Speaker 2: Does he know the starting five is five players. I
Speaker 2: like my starting five plus one. I like my starting
Speaker 2: five plus one.
Speaker 1: So I dug into that.
Speaker 2: How much does Nick Nurse love his five to six guys.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you it is. It is love, love, it is,
Speaker 2: it is, Oh my god, holy shit love. Fred van Fleet,
Speaker 2: my guy leaves the NBA. In minutes played per game
Speaker 2: thirty eight point two. Scottie Barnes, a rookie, is playing
Speaker 2: thirty five point five minutes per game, the most of
Speaker 2: any rookie in the NBA.
Speaker 1: No surprise Rookie.
Speaker 2: Of the Year, Gary Trent Junior plays thirty three point
Speaker 2: eight minutes per game. Pascal Yakam playing thirty six point
Speaker 2: nine minutes per game. Og A Nanobi plays thirty six
Speaker 2: point nine minutes per game. That is ridiculous, folks, That
Speaker 2: is fucking ridiculous.
Speaker 1: That reads like.
Speaker 2: A box score from nineteen thirty six when it was
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Rosenblooms, a real NBA team, by the way,
Speaker 2: who had seven roster players, and if someone fouled out
Speaker 2: or got injured, they literally had to pull someone from
Speaker 2: the stands to be like, hey, you you look at
Speaker 2: let it come play basketball.
Speaker 1: That's what's happening.
Speaker 2: It would happen in Toronto if they actually had fans.
Speaker 2: They probably just need to grab the actual like Toronto
Speaker 2: mascot because he's the only available bench guy that they have.
Speaker 1: They live git play their starters more than anyone.
Speaker 2: All those guys top twenty in the league in terms
Speaker 2: of minutes played, which makes comments like these from Nick
Speaker 2: Nurse that he didn't say to me, but he said
Speaker 2: to the media hilarious, laughable, untrue. He's talking about the
Speaker 2: battle between Sam Decker and Esok Bonga, two guys that
Speaker 2: were at the end of the roster, and they were
Speaker 2: trying to make a decision who's gonna play, who's gonna
Speaker 2: get cut, and who's gonna play.
Speaker 1: And this is what and this is what Nick Nurse
Speaker 1: had to say. Uh, Esak kind of fills the role
Speaker 1: that we want.
Speaker 2: He's got size, he's a versatil defender, he's on the
Speaker 2: offensive glass. He's kind of a real role playing guy.
Speaker 2: We can think we can throw in there.
Speaker 1: At any time.
Speaker 2: He's good enough to get into games anytime right now.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, but.
Speaker 2: We can't play everybody. Excuse me, you don't play anybody.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, you're just playing five to six dudes? Five
Speaker 2: really six? Okay, so your five starters are all top
Speaker 2: twenty minutes played and you can't find Esoc Bonga any
Speaker 2: playing time.
Speaker 1: Excuse me. That's hilarious.
Speaker 2: And now Nick Nurse's mind has turned to the trade
Speaker 2: deadline and how he can make this team more competitive,
Speaker 2: because he even said it, it's now undisputable they have
Speaker 2: zero depth.
Speaker 1: Not only do you know that based on who he's playing,
Speaker 1: you know that because he said it's a goddamn self.
Speaker 1: This is when he said, there's some stark downs.
Speaker 2: Man, it's been a battle to pick everybody up or
Speaker 2: pick yourself up.
Speaker 1: But he is optimistic that the Raptors right now can contend.
Speaker 2: I told him that's the sort of beautiful optimism that
Speaker 2: you just can't get the delusions of optimism when you're
Speaker 2: not winning any team, not just them because they're actually
Speaker 2: like decent, but a team like the Lakers. To believe
Speaker 2: you can win at any moment, any game, despite being
Speaker 2: so very clearly outmatched, out depths, out athleticism, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's just I die. I would die for that level
Speaker 2: of optimism about any fucking thing, anything, even about getting
Speaker 2: my toast like perfectly toasted.
Speaker 1: I don't have optimism that I could complete anything in
Speaker 1: that manner.
Speaker 2: So Michael Grange reports that Nurse has had moiple conversations
Speaker 2: with GM Bobby Webster about trying to evaluate with the Raptor's.
Speaker 1: Need coming up to the trade deadline, but it's been hard.
Speaker 2: To evaluate given the way that the season has gone.
Speaker 2: He says that there's about a six to seven man
Speaker 2: corps that they want to focus on going forward. Yeah,
Speaker 2: those are the six to seven guys that are getting.
Speaker 1: All the minutes.
Speaker 2: Actually it's really five to six. But you can't say
Speaker 2: you only like your starting five. You can't go out
Speaker 2: to the world and say that you said I like
Speaker 2: seven because anything less than seven sounds like you're a psycho.
Speaker 2: That's a psycho move.
Speaker 1: So what do you do right now?
Speaker 2: If you're the Raptors, you got a good corps, all
Speaker 2: of them the same guy, Like all six to seven
Speaker 2: athletic can switch, can handle the rock. Well, it's been
Speaker 2: a while since they've seen some winning hoops right in Toronto.
Speaker 2: They literally played in Tampa the entire all last year.
Speaker 2: They didn't even see Canada when they were in the
Speaker 2: basketball season last year, So you'd think that the tendency
Speaker 2: might be push your chips in the middle of the
Speaker 2: table and go quote unquote all in.
Speaker 1: To me, that is terrible, that's a terrible idea.
Speaker 2: Even even still, they did decide to sort of tank
Speaker 2: to get Scottie Barnes last year, right, And it's a
Speaker 2: fact that they have no depth like it's a fact.
Speaker 2: So Nick Nurse also told me that there is no
Speaker 2: point in his career he's ever believed he's had a
Speaker 2: lost season.
Speaker 1: He doesn't believe it exists.
Speaker 2: He believes as the head coach, there's no moment in
Speaker 2: time that exists where you say, pack it up.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna build on this one.
Speaker 2: We're just gonna have this be an emotional victory. All
Speaker 2: these things or creative ways to get new guys involved
Speaker 2: and develop develop young talent. No, no, you play to win,
Speaker 2: no matter what he said. You play to win, no
Speaker 2: matter what. He's gonna run the legs out of these starters.
Speaker 2: Chase wins, which means from a betting perspective, they're never
Speaker 2: out of it. Whatever the line is, just take it
Speaker 2: like I know, you can get burned at a plus
Speaker 2: four and a half to take the Raptors against some
Speaker 2: good team and then all of a sudden, you don't
Speaker 2: make it.
Speaker 1: But like, this is the team.
Speaker 2: He's going to put Fred van Fleet out there when
Speaker 2: they're down thirty, Like, think about that. If you lead
Speaker 2: the NBA in minutes played, that's including games you're getting
Speaker 2: blown out. He's like, fuck it, Fred, it's just you,
Speaker 2: my guy. Go ahead and pag your stats. That's fucking crazy.
Speaker 2: Back to the problem. Everyone wants the Raptors to make
Speaker 2: a big trade. You want it, I want it. Toronto
Speaker 2: fans want it. Massai wants it. But I don't think
Speaker 2: it's gonna happen. I'm not sure because there's two words.
Speaker 2: Goren Draggitch. Goren Dragich is making nineteen point one million
Speaker 2: dollars a year. He's my age, which means he's over
Speaker 2: the hill in basketball terms. And everybody's talking about John Wall.
Speaker 2: Why is John Wall playing any basketball? John Wall's making
Speaker 2: a lot of money. The Rockets aren't using him. Nobody's
Speaker 2: asking that about Gordon Dragitch. Nobody's like, why is Goran
Speaker 2: Dragish nowhere around this team? Why is Goreon dragis out
Speaker 2: indefinitely for personal reasons. Why haven't they come to some
Speaker 2: resolution about him? Just like wall goran Dragon's sitting on
Speaker 2: his hands, not playing. No one's asking a goddamn thing.
Speaker 2: The Raptors don't need an old wash guy. But they
Speaker 2: also traded for that wash guy in order to basically
Speaker 2: game and loophole the cap system in order to trade
Speaker 2: Gorn Dragicic and then receive a twenty million dollar trade
Speaker 2: exception that would allow them to basically get a guy
Speaker 2: that they can't get otherwise with that Kyle Lowry trade.
Speaker 2: So in order to trade Goren, we're probably gonna have
Speaker 2: to attach draft picks to get him off the books,
Speaker 2: which means you trying to build for the future, you're
Speaker 2: literally giving up assets that you need. Draft capital is
Speaker 2: very important for a young developing team, but then you
Speaker 2: also want to sign free agents, and so the whole
Speaker 2: Goren Dragach trade capital thing is sort of inextristricably linked.
Speaker 2: It's a hard word to say fucked up two days
Speaker 2: in a row on that, But if they let Goren
Speaker 2: Dragag's contract expire, they lose twenty million dollars in that
Speaker 2: trade exception, in that Lowry sign and trade, and then
Speaker 2: that Lowry sign and trade doesn't make no damn sense.
Speaker 2: They should have traded him earlier if they can't get
Speaker 2: something out of them. It's a very complex scenario, very complex.
Speaker 2: Been wrapping my mind around it all day. And we
Speaker 2: know that Massi wants to build around a young court
Speaker 2: and part of that strategy is stockpiling those picks. But
Speaker 2: at five hundred right now, the Raptors probably have a
Speaker 2: valuable mid first round or probably fifteen sixteen in this
Speaker 2: first round, basically just below the lottery. And the Sixers
Speaker 2: offered multiple draft picks for Kyle Lowry last year. So
Speaker 2: if you turn down multiple suitors in the middle of
Speaker 2: the trade deadline last year, you turn that down, and
Speaker 2: then you do a sign and trade for Precious to
Speaker 2: Chilia in a first round pick and gore and draggag,
Speaker 2: and then you got to give up a first round
Speaker 2: to get rid of fucking gore and drags.
Speaker 1: Then what do you have? You have Precious a Chilia
Speaker 1: who's a.
Speaker 2: Nice piece, but god damn, you could have had Tyree
Speaker 2: maxin two firsts. I understand the concept of fuck Philly,
Speaker 2: but not at your own expense, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 2: don't just don't do that trade because you're cutting off
Speaker 2: your nose to spite your face.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: No, So for me, it's gonna be a very interesting
Speaker 2: thing watching them going forward, because it'll tell you everything
Speaker 2: you need to know.
Speaker 1: If they don't make a.
Speaker 2: Move and they let Gore and Dragicic's contract just wither away,
Speaker 2: that means they have no interest in doing anything right now.
Speaker 2: They have no interest in going out and getting free
Speaker 2: agents because they got guys to sign soon, and that's happening.
Speaker 1: They will be signed, and the only.
Speaker 2: Guys you're gonna be able to get is in the draft,
Speaker 2: not in free agency, which means young young, young youth movement,
Speaker 2: which probably means more five to.
Speaker 1: Six man rotation.
Speaker 2: Ah well, since Toronto can only get better via trade,
Speaker 2: kind of like the Blazers, it might just mean go
Speaker 2: and get Norm Powell again. I guess, maybe trade Chris Bouchet.
Speaker 2: I guess it's a situation that is developing.
Speaker 1: Keep your eye on it.
Speaker 2: But if I had to put my gavel down, I'd
Speaker 2: say Toronto will be a player team and and at
Speaker 2: that point, why not just do the watery again.
Speaker 1: Seemed to work out last time round. But keep your
Speaker 1: eye on it.
Speaker 3: Keep your eye some she fragrance when you lift discover
Speaker 3: it ain't no complaining. I'm ready to be a ward
Speaker 3: a disc one and me I'm telling me called wards off,
Speaker 3: can afford the risk drop to a range.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna be nice, but I'm gonna speak the
Speaker 2: truth as usual. Chicago, Chicago, So me in.
Speaker 1: I was sucked. You know, I said this team very
Speaker 1: short bench. I said it. I was like, Okay, what
Speaker 1: are they really gonna do?
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, one seed fucking okay,
Speaker 2: well gotta eat crow. At that point, tomart Rozan's playing
Speaker 2: an MVP level. You know, Lonzo's a throwback floor general. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 2: Levine bawling out so that he could get a huge
Speaker 2: deal from the New York next next year.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just playing. I'm just playing. Don't get mad,
Speaker 1: don't get mad.
Speaker 2: Booch have been having an interesting year, has some clutch moments.
Speaker 2: Not his best year, not particularly any better than his
Speaker 2: worst year. But okay, I mean my man, Io, Io Desunma,
Speaker 2: he's a nice little piece.
Speaker 1: I already got his jersey, retired to Illinois. Tomart Rosen's
Speaker 1: going to Illinois with Io. They're having a good time. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: And then just like the ss, Chicago Bulls sinking faster
Speaker 2: than Bitcoin.
Speaker 1: Just like that, Just like that.
Speaker 2: By the way, read up on Obj getting his contract
Speaker 2: in bitcoin, fascinating story. Might wanna just scale your enthusiasm
Speaker 2: for bitcoin for a second. And you would think that
Speaker 2: because I issued an apology already to Bulls fans, that
Speaker 2: I would hold back on saying I fucking told you so.
Speaker 1: But no, no, that's not me. I am that petty.
Speaker 2: Someone said on TikTok today Trista doesn't fully know the
Speaker 2: alphabet because she knows every other letter but lle. The
Speaker 2: only letter that she's not acquainted with is the word
Speaker 2: is the letter L. Yeah, I don't take any l's
Speaker 2: like I don't take l's. I'm right, you guys are wrong.
Speaker 1: I told you so. What did I say earlier on
Speaker 1: the season? What did I say? I said, quote, I
Speaker 1: found my own quote. I'm quoting myself.
Speaker 2: This starting five has the ability to play with anyone.
Speaker 2: I like how I'm reading the quote like it's not me.
Speaker 2: But the bench is so thin, and if the starters
Speaker 2: keep playing as much as they have been someone might
Speaker 2: break down and if they break down.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be in troubble. Folks. If that's not about
Speaker 1: as accurate as it gets, I don't know what is.
Speaker 1: Guess what multiple players now broke broke, broke, broke, broke.
Speaker 2: Down, bulls sliding down the standings like a fucking water park.
Speaker 2: Sh They were number one with a bullet and now
Speaker 2: people are wondering, real.
Speaker 1: Media people, not me. I didn't say it.
Speaker 2: There are people like Brian Winhorst being like, can this
Speaker 2: team even host a play in game? What? What?
Speaker 1: Where did it all begin? Where did the deterioration of
Speaker 1: the foundation start to happen?
Speaker 2: My man Alex Crusoe. Of course, I'm starting to get
Speaker 2: a little worried about Crusoe. They might be a not
Speaker 2: injury prone, but maybe say bitten from injuries. He's missed
Speaker 2: fourteen games last year with the Lakers, this year, banged
Speaker 2: up most of the year, and now he's out four
Speaker 2: to six weeks with rist surgery after he came down
Speaker 2: from that Grayson Allen injury.
Speaker 1: And I think, wow, DeRozan is the brains of this team.
Speaker 2: I think Cruso is the heart and soul and without
Speaker 2: Caruso and his infectious energy and his intensive intensity, intensive
Speaker 2: defensive intensity.
Speaker 1: That's what I meant to say.
Speaker 2: This team is just lacking when he's not on the court.
Speaker 2: And then the same thing can be said about Lonzo Ball.
Speaker 2: He's a defensive monster.
Speaker 1: He and Caruso make that thing go. They're like the gel.
Speaker 2: They're like the connective tissue of the defensive identity of
Speaker 2: this team.
Speaker 1: And Lonzo Ball is an assist machine.
Speaker 2: So without those two guys, rot row and now you
Speaker 2: got Dereck Jones Junior. Nice little role player on a
Speaker 2: team that has no depth. So he doesn't matter unless
Speaker 2: you are already are struggling with depth, and now it
Speaker 2: really matters.
Speaker 1: He's having surgery on his wrist. He might miss the
Speaker 1: rest of the season.
Speaker 2: My man Zach Levine continues to miss games with knee
Speaker 2: sortis on the same leg that he had acl surgery on.
Speaker 1: Yikes.
Speaker 2: And Patrick Williams he's probably out the remainder of the
Speaker 2: season two And we all knew in the beginning of
Speaker 2: the season Patrick Williams had an ankle injury. Now you
Speaker 2: got a torn ligament in his wrist and he's gone.
Speaker 2: He was supposed to be there this corps was supposed
Speaker 2: to have something. They have less depth than I thought
Speaker 2: that they had in the beginning of the year because
Speaker 2: they haven't even had their main guys, And like clockwork,
Speaker 2: they go three and seven in their last ten fall
Speaker 2: into second.
Speaker 1: Which you're like, oh, Tristy, you're hating on them. You're
Speaker 1: a hater. You're a hater. They're in second, You're a hater. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no.
Speaker 2: They're just a game up on the calves and one
Speaker 2: and a half games up on the bucks in the nets.
Speaker 2: You don't think those guys when they figured out, they're
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to surpass you.
Speaker 1: It's a close race in the east, folks.
Speaker 2: In other words, Bulls are a two game losing streak
Speaker 2: away from being in fifth place, and probably another two
Speaker 2: to three games away from seventh place. Excuse me, excuse me,
Speaker 2: Just give me my flowers.
Speaker 1: Just tell me, Trista, you're not right all the time.
Speaker 2: But you were fucking super right on this. And it's
Speaker 2: not DeRozan's fault, of course. It's not like all the
Speaker 2: things I said about him very wrong. I continue to
Speaker 2: stay wrong on demart Rosen. In the last two losses,
Speaker 2: he scored thirty five and forty one and a single
Speaker 2: handedly keeping this Bulls team in the game.
Speaker 1: But without depth, it's just too much to overcome. It's
Speaker 1: a bridge too far. It's a bridge too far, and
Speaker 1: it is exactly what I fear might happen. It is
Speaker 1: why I can't take Toronto.
Speaker 2: Seriously, you can't go out there, roll the ball out
Speaker 2: and be like five to six guys, go out there,
Speaker 2: play hard.
Speaker 1: Oh you twour in acl No, No, keep playing, keep playing.
Speaker 1: You can't do that.
Speaker 2: Can't do that.
Speaker 1: Like your starters are playing too many minutes.
Speaker 2: It's just a matter of time. These men aren't robots, right, Like,
Speaker 2: why know we think that they're robots. And because they're
Speaker 2: elite athletes, they can do whatever however, as much as
Speaker 2: they want, as much frequency and an intensity and a duration.
Speaker 2: But no, these are human beings with bodies that will
Speaker 2: break down with impact and force and momentum. Another team
Speaker 2: that's been banged up this year is Cleveland, who lost
Speaker 2: two starters, Sexton and Rubio. The difference, the big difference
Speaker 2: between the Calves. I can't believe I'm even saying this.
Speaker 2: The big difference between the Calves and the Bulls is
Speaker 2: that the Calves have a shitload of depth.
Speaker 1: They got guys go down no matter.
Speaker 2: They just keep on keeping on and they make moves.
Speaker 2: They immediately replace Rubio with Rejeon Rondo. When the Bulls
Speaker 2: lost somebody, what happened?
Speaker 1: Nothing? Nothing, nothing's happened, nothing has been done. It was
Speaker 1: like it was immediate.
Speaker 2: It was Ricky Rubio season ending injury. The next tweet
Speaker 2: that you saw was Cleveland pursues Rajon Rondo, like within
Speaker 2: three seconds, They're like, we gotta do something. What are
Speaker 2: you guys doing? What are you fucking guys doing nothing?
Speaker 2: You're just sitting on your laurels and all your main
Speaker 2: starters who are all out in indefinite period of time
Speaker 2: somewhere between six to eight weeks. But one guy, Lonzo Ball,
Speaker 2: hasn't even had surgery yet, so the clock on his
Speaker 2: eight weeks hasn't even been done yet.
Speaker 1: Tick talk tick. They don't even know what they're gonna
Speaker 1: do in his surgery. So can the Bulls save their season?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Gonna need to make a move.
Speaker 2: A lot of chatter about Patrick Williams, He's gotta go,
Speaker 2: He's gotta go in order for you guys to even
Speaker 2: figure it out.
Speaker 1: You gotta get some. You need some multiple pieces. You
Speaker 1: don't need a star like Jerry Grant and Jeremy Grant.
Speaker 1: You need role players.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, they're gonna be getting a Lonzo Ball and
Speaker 2: Crusoe back by the playoffs.
Speaker 1: But even LaMelo Ball can attest. When he came back
Speaker 1: from his risk injury, he was like, I was not
Speaker 1: the same. I was not the same.
Speaker 2: Not until the very next year did I feel anywhere
Speaker 2: near myself. So the worst case scenario, as I predicted,
Speaker 2: because it's science, has happened in Chicago. It's just math,
Speaker 2: it's just math, and I think it's actually a physics.
Speaker 2: It's more physics than math.
Speaker 1: But physics has math. It's all the same.
Speaker 2: And now they have to work super super hard from
Speaker 2: sliding below that coveted four seed in the east. And
Speaker 2: just like math, anything below six is a plan, which
Speaker 2: means TK is right.
Speaker 1: You could send me my claps, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. I will not be taking questions at this time.
Speaker 1: How much money you got alive, how many products you
Speaker 1: got a lot? How many people have doubted alive left
Speaker 1: you out and a lot. How many prey did you
Speaker 1: how many players have left your franchise. A lot a
Speaker 1: lot of good ones. A lot of good ones have
Speaker 1: left Utah and maybe a new one is coming soon.
Speaker 1: What is happening in Utah?
Speaker 2: We just did our deep dive on the Jazz. Like
Speaker 2: I said, they are spiraling. It's a struggle bus No
Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert. Their defense is suss And then this happened.
Speaker 2: My man Rick Buker over at Fox wrote this, nothing
Speaker 2: has happened this season to dispil the impression that the
Speaker 2: Jazz are a one trick pony and a step behind the.
Speaker 1: Elite teams in the Western Conference.
Speaker 2: Nullify their three point scoring advantage, and they are eminently beatable.
Speaker 1: Yikes.
Speaker 2: It is no coincidence that January is the first month
Speaker 2: this season in which Jazz opponents are averaging more threes
Speaker 2: made and Utah is four and nine this calendar year.
Speaker 2: The worst part the Jazz I said they need to
Speaker 2: be one seed, didn't I I said they need They
Speaker 2: need home field advantage, home court advantage all the way out.
Speaker 1: They need it. They are now in fourth.
Speaker 2: They are zero and four against the teams in front
Speaker 2: of them, Griz Sons, Warriors.
Speaker 1: Yikes. Yikes.
Speaker 2: Stress levels in Utah have gotta be through the roof.
Speaker 2: There's no outlets like coffee or sex or anything.
Speaker 1: Maybe sex. Look up soaking. But that stress is at
Speaker 1: an all.
Speaker 2: Time high right now, has to be when they read
Speaker 2: this bombshell that Bucker dropped. The incessant buzz around the
Speaker 2: league is that there are those in Donovan Mitchell's circle
Speaker 2: who believe he is too big of a star for
Speaker 2: Salt Lake City. Further, some say it's only a matter
Speaker 2: of time before he joins his former agent at CIA
Speaker 2: and current New York Knicks president Leon Rose in New York.
Speaker 1: Here's where it gets real spicy.
Speaker 2: They are a first round exit away from Donovan being
Speaker 2: in New York and Eastern Conference.
Speaker 1: Scout said, oh oh, is that true? Uh? I'd say
Speaker 1: that's pretty likely. A first round exit for the Utah Jazz.
Speaker 1: I don't care who they see.
Speaker 2: They are vulnerable. Remember remember good old Darron Williams. You
Speaker 2: remember Gordon Hayward, Good players, nice guys, had some handles.
Speaker 2: Doron Wins one of the better floor generals, Gordon Hayward
Speaker 2: one of the better wings in the league. Two Jazz
Speaker 2: first rounders who said deuces, I am all the way
Speaker 2: out of this fucking place for greener pastures. The difference
Speaker 2: is Gordon Hayward left in free agency. Donovan Mitchell still
Speaker 2: has four years left on his contract. If the Jazz
Speaker 2: don't do something to fix their problems, Fast Spider might
Speaker 2: be the next man out of the door in Utah.
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