1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 2: You guys probably all remember the story from about eight 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: years ago when there was the coach who was praying 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 2: on the football field. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: And he ended up getting fired for that. 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 2: I heard that story and I remember thinking, this is 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: such an amazing story of a man of deep faith, 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 2: and I'm so glad to tell you that. Today we 9 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 2: have coach Joe Kennedy with us, and the backstory to 10 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: this is actually a little bit more interesting than that, 11 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: because as I'm reading about this, I'm like, this is 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: actually a man who was in a very young faith, 13 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: very young faith, and yet God calls people of all 14 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: different levels of faith to do amazing things. So, Coach Kennedy, 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: thank you so much for being with me today. 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 3: I'm going to see you. 17 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: Oh wow, so tell us because I really did. It's 18 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 2: kind of I don't know how to explain it. I 19 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: think when I heard your story, it was one of 20 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: those things where I was like, oh, I wish that 21 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: I was that brave that I could do that, But 22 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 2: I clearly don't have that level of faith inside of me, 23 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: Like I'm still growing in my faith, so I would 24 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: need a lot more faith to be able to boldly 25 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: go up against. 26 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: The whole machine. 27 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 2: And then I'm reading your story and it's like you 28 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 2: had just recently really discovered who God was in your life. 29 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: It was kind of one of those things where it 30 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: was like, who are you? Where are you? And you 31 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: committed to God? 32 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: If you bring my wife and I together, I will 33 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: give my life over to you. But you gave your 34 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: life over immediately, didn't You also did? 35 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, we were in a hard place. We just got married. 36 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 3: I just got out of the Marine Corps. We had 37 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: so many things going against us to start with. But 38 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 3: she was a good church girl. She grew up in 39 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 3: faith and I grew up at Heathen And when we 40 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 3: got together, I was an atheist, so I thought it 41 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: was cute she was going to church and everything. But 42 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 3: we were running into huge problems and I didn't know 43 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: what else to do. I mean, I tried everything. She 44 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: went through a lot of abuse when she was a 45 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: kid and in her previous marriage, so she had so 46 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 3: many defenses up that I didn't know what I was doing. 47 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: I was losing the girl I love more than anything. 48 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: She was my first love. I want her to be 49 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: my last love, and so I threw myself on the 50 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: altar and said, God, if you give me my wife, 51 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 3: I'll give you my life. And boy, he started laughing. 52 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: He was like dealed. Before that even ink dried, he 53 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: started started in on me. 54 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 2: I mean it, honestly, this story gives me chills because 55 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 2: I think that people of faith, or even people of 56 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: little faith, hear that and they're like, Okay, well what 57 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 2: better I've been an immediate turnaround. And it wasn't an 58 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: immediate turnaround, like you had faith to do this. It 59 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: took a lot of faith from your side to say 60 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: I'm going to start a prayer because you knew football. 61 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: That's I kind of love that too about this. I'm like, 62 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 2: here is something that was like such a guy's thing. 63 00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: You know. 64 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: You came from serving in the military to going into 65 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: a high school to coaching football, and you knew football 66 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 2: and so that was your area to connect with God too, 67 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: which I find fascinating because people were like, how do 68 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: I connect? Where is my space? And you were connecting 69 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: on the football field. So tell us a little bit 70 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 2: about that, because that was when you were like, Okay, 71 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a glory after every game. 72 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I didn't even want the job At first, 73 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 3: I just, you know, because I just got out of 74 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 3: the military. I didn't want to start a new career. 75 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 3: I already ruined two other marriages because when I go 76 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: for something, it takes over my life, and I wasn't 77 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: sure I wanted to do that. My wife worked for 78 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 3: the school district. We had two kids in the high school, 79 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: one in the middle school, so we had a lot 80 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: of things to discuss. But I watched Facing the Giants, 81 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: and man, I can't tell you, it was like God 82 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: reached through the TV, grabbed my heart, threw me to 83 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: my knees and it was the first time in my 84 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: life I heard my calling. And that's when I dedicated. 85 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: I said them, and I will give you glory after 86 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: every single game, win or lose. And you know, to 87 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 3: be honest, I don't know anything about football, nothing, but 88 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 3: I know about leadership, team building, discipline. I know how 89 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 3: to get these kids to be turning into better young 90 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: men and to get most out of people in my 91 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 3: military career, That's what I did. I train people to 92 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: be better and I just took everything I learned there 93 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: and add that with a whole bunch of love for 94 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: these guys, and boom, there you go. It was a 95 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: good combination. 96 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: And a twenty year marine veteran. 97 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: And I think that's also key here because a lot 98 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 2: of people come out and say exactly what you just said. 99 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: You blamed yourself. I destroyed a few marriages. I go 100 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: for things all in. It's hard to be around me. 101 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that's what so many of our 102 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 2: veterans come out of the military and their loss. So like, 103 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: I'm just breaking things because I was trained to break things, 104 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: and now I'm out there breaking And you really gave 105 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: yourself over. And I think that that personality of going 106 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: for it all in and having served for so many 107 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 2: years and being a person who is a protector sometimes 108 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: to protect you are, it is hard for you to 109 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 2: give up that role and be vulnerable. This was a 110 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 2: moment where you decided to be really. 111 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 3: Vulnerable and giving everything, especially when it came to when 112 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: they told me I needed to choose between my faith 113 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: and my job. I mean, I always put myself out 114 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 3: there for God. I put myself out there for my wife. 115 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 3: And that was the first two times that I've ever 116 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: surrendered anything in my life. So I and I told 117 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: these guys, every one on my team. They knew exactly 118 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 3: where I stood at all times, and I gave them 119 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: everything and their families, not just the kids, their families, 120 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: our community, everything, the school, the disc strict everything I 121 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 3: possibly could. I've been called to serve and it's just 122 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: what I do. 123 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: So after the games, you guys would go out as 124 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: a team and pray together, and then it was someone 125 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 2: on the opposing team that complained right then, and that 126 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 2: was when the school said, okay, no more, and your 127 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: decision was okay, but I can still do it. 128 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. So we were in our eighth season of doing this, 129 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: and so this is nothing new. This has been going 130 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: on for eight years, and it actually came from a compliment. 131 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 3: Somebody saw what we were doing, called our principal and said, hey, 132 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 3: what your football program is doing is awesome. So they 133 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 3: started investigation to make sure everything was on the up 134 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 3: and up. As soon as you leaked that out, we 135 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 3: had one person at the school who was a Church 136 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 3: of Satan person and she got her crew behind her, 137 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 3: and next thing you know, it turned into this big, 138 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 3: horrible mess. 139 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: The Church of Satan people have a group at school though. 140 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: That's the interesting part about it. So you end up 141 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: saying I'm going to fight. I'm not going to sit 142 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: by and let this happen. And I think the interesting 143 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: part about this is you mentioned your wife worked at 144 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: the school. 145 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: District and she was not so hot on fighting because 146 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: this is really hard. 147 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: And I think that as someone who ran for office 148 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: and got the daggers there, it's hard on your family 149 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: when you are the one that stands up and says, no, 150 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to stand in the face of the insults. 151 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 2: I'm going to stand in the face of the battle, 152 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: and I'm. 153 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,679 Speaker 1: Going to keep going. I'm going to battle through. Because 154 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: she was like, why are you doing this? 155 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,559 Speaker 2: I have to go to work every day with these people, 156 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: and she actually had people that were longtime friends that 157 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: started to pull away because they were so frustrated with you. 158 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: Isn't that right? 159 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, so not just the people at work, but in 160 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: our church was the same thing. At our home. It 161 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 3: was we were just so she was getting isolated in 162 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 3: every way because I could have talked to her about the 163 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: case because she was a conflict to the case, and 164 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 3: she can have talked to me about what's going on 165 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 3: in the school because obviously and yeah, so she wasn't 166 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: even she was on the superintendent's board. So she was 167 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: very involved. I mean, she's head of HR and now 168 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: all of a sudden she can't do her job and 169 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 3: they're saying, we're going to talk about your husband for 170 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 3: the next three hours. You need to leave, I mean, 171 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: or when she did stay to hear them. What they're 172 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 3: saying about me is just she was in a rough spot. 173 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: Now I didn't see that at first, of you know, 174 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 3: because I was so into the fight myself, I didn't 175 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 3: really realize how badly she was hurting and suffering through this. 176 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 177 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 178 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting because this all goes to you 179 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: at the beginning, saying, God, bring my wife and I together, 180 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 2: and I will follow you. I'll dedicate my life to you. 181 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: So this moment, I think what you just said is 182 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: I didn't see it at first, And I think in 183 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 2: this moment, had you seen it, would you have been 184 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: so faithful. And that's when God closes our eyes to 185 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: certain things so that you can continue on the journey 186 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: that would ultimately bring you together. But in that moment, 187 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 2: there must have been sometimes once you started to figure out, man, 188 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: she's really going. 189 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: To walk out the door. 190 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: Why are you doing this? Because I thought I made 191 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: a deal. 192 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: You know, oftentimes we make deals all the time with God. 193 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: It doesn't go the way we think. But God was 194 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: faithful to you. But there must have been a moment 195 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: where you were like, hey, this all started based on 196 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: these two people, me and my wife, and that's not 197 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: going so hot right now. 198 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it got so tough, and she said, yeah, I 199 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 3: need to leave, and I said, well, it's our kids 200 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: are here, No, it's your house. I will leave. So 201 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: I was actually walking out the door so we could 202 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 3: take one of those breaks, and I got a text 203 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 3: message from the guys who did facing the Giants, Alex Kendrick, 204 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 3: and right as I was getting ready to walk out 205 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 3: the door, and so I fall down the stairs. I 206 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 3: can't breathe. My wife comes over there, and so she's 207 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 3: been on an assumption that she grew up with me 208 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 3: since we were nine. We've been together, so she knew 209 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 3: I was rebellious. I don't like authority and you're not 210 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 3: going to tell me what to do. Attitude being really defiant, 211 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: and she thought this was part of it. She couldn't 212 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 3: understand why, and this is a fifteen second prayer. She 213 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 3: couldn't understand why I would put our marriage above a 214 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: fifteen second prayer. And then when I fell down the 215 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 3: stairs and she watched that video from the Kendrick, I mean, 216 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 3: it was like the scales fell from her eyes. She 217 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 3: instantly understood that this was a God thing. Now, God 218 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 3: waited for the eleventh hour, fifty nine minute, fifty nine 219 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 3: second to show up, but he absolutely showed up, and 220 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 3: we were inseparable. Two became one, and we got to 221 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 3: do the last round of the trials together, side by side, 222 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 3: hand in hand. 223 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: God showed up at the perfect time. That's what had 224 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: to happen. 225 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: That's how God works, I mean, and that's what when 226 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: you are in the struggle and you're going, why why 227 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 2: are you putting me through this? 228 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: Why is she walking out the door? She had to 229 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: be at that point for I. 230 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: And what I read is that at that moment she 231 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: felt the Holy Spirit just open her eyes. And you 232 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: had already been there, I mean, you already had this 233 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 2: faith and you were like, I've got a I've got 234 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: a deal. I've got to follow the Lord, like this 235 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 2: is what he said. And she says, at that moment 236 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: and correct me if I'm wrong. But she says, at 237 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 2: that moment, when the Holy Spirit opened her eyes to this, 238 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: she realized this was about God. This was not about you. 239 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: This is not about a moment of personal glory. This 240 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: was not because she knew who you were. You talk 241 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: about being a fighter and like I'm always going to 242 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: go into I'm never going to shy away from the battle. 243 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: And she knew that was kind of like you were 244 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 2: a bit of a misfit your whole life, and she just. 245 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: Thought you were being you know, difficult. 246 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 2: But then she saw that video and she went, wow, 247 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 2: this is about being a court of three strings, you know, 248 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: this is about coming together. 249 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 3: That is that is pretty, That is so well said, 250 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 3: and that is the best because I'm a visual guy, 251 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: and that is exactly what it is. I take a 252 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 3: look at our life and her and my chords were 253 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 3: intertwined the whole entire time. But it was it was 254 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 3: so weak because there was we didn't have the third one. 255 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 3: So when God was in it, boy, I tell you 256 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 3: nothing will break us up and we could get through anything. 257 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 3: We've been through hell and we will. We will keep 258 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 3: fighting him. We will always send for the Lord. 259 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: So she's on board. 260 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: Now, now things get real because now she gets it, 261 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: and not that she didn't. And I love the fact 262 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 2: that she was the one that was the church goer, 263 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 2: she was the one of greater faith. That's how you 264 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: presented at the beginning. And then suddenly she's like, oh 265 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: my word, this is what I've been wanting. This is 266 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 2: what we need to do together. And so now you 267 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 2: are going into battle as three. And it is a 268 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 2: totally different story going into battle as three. 269 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: So what does what happens? 270 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: Because you have gone through these court cases and she's like, 271 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: why are you going to the Supreme Court? 272 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: Now she sees it. So what does the court say? 273 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: What happens? 274 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? The lower Court's what they ruled. And then so 275 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 3: we went to the Supreme Court twice. We lost seven 276 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: times along the way over that those eight years. And 277 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 3: the lower courts, the way they ruled was that any 278 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 3: display of religion in the public square is grounds for termination. 279 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: Now that's to scare every American that any kinds of faith. 280 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 3: You can't wear a cross I can't wear, or a 281 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 3: Jewish yamica. I mean you think about every day's stuff. 282 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: You can't pray at what in churches? Now you can't 283 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 3: because that's basically in public where somebody could see you, 284 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: or over your meal when you're at Applebee's or something. 285 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 3: So we had the weight to the world on our 286 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: shoulders that if this stuck and we lost the case, 287 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 3: we would have been the ones that screwed it up 288 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 3: for everybody. We just lost all religious freedom for all Americans. 289 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 3: And so that's what it really came down to, and 290 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 3: that's what we are battling and this Thank god the 291 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 3: Supreme Court took a look at what actual facts of 292 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 3: the case was and took a look at the Constitution 293 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 3: and ruled accordingly, because I man, it would have been 294 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 3: devastating for Americans. 295 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that pesky constitution that actually shows what your 296 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 2: rights truly are because that idea of separation of church 297 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: and state, that's an idea, but it's also to protect 298 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: your religion's that's the funny part. So the state can't 299 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: go in and say, you know what, we're not going 300 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: to have churches anymore. You're not going to be able 301 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: to do this anymore. And I think there's been a 302 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 2: flip flop of that. People believe that you are protected 303 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: from religion, your religious and your religion is protected from government, 304 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: you know, And that's honestly, it is a concern today. 305 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: I think this is a concern today. I think this 306 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: case is remarkable in this moment, at this time when 307 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 2: we see politicians who are mocking Christianity, who are going 308 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: after the Jews, this. 309 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: Is a time when what you've done. 310 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: Again, Gosh, God's timing is perfect, perfectly time for you 311 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: to have this happen and be able to come out 312 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: and talk about, Hey, if you're a Christian, if you're 313 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: a Jew, if you're a Muslim, do not think you 314 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: are safe in the United States if you don't continue 315 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: fighting for religious freedom. 316 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. And the beauty of it is so like you said, 317 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 3: we've been we've been program for the past fifty years 318 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 3: that you can't intertwine religion and in the state, and 319 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 3: that's just a farce, that's not even a real thing. 320 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: But there was an old case in nineteen seventy one 321 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 3: that set that whole precedence, and we've been trained from 322 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 3: this one stupid case seven thousand different cases were religious 323 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 3: freedom was squashed because of this Lemon case. And what 324 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 3: we did is we smash that that is no longer there. 325 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: So right now, even though most people don't understand it 326 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 3: or realize that we have more religious freedom today than 327 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 3: we've had in the past fifty years. That's pretty cool. 328 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 3: So we need to be flexing our muscles. We need 329 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 3: to be exercised in our rights as Americans, and like 330 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 3: you said, especially now, we got election coming up real soon. 331 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: And I heard there's like thirty million Americans plus that 332 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 3: call themselves Christian that don't even vote. Boy, I just 333 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 3: can't wrap my brain around that. 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It's s A b R E 358 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: Radio dot com. Stay tuned for more after this. There 359 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: is such a push against faith right now. I mean, 360 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: as we look around the country and we see these 361 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: these protesters on college campuses that are openly attacking Jewish 362 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 2: students and telling Jewish students that they're not welcome. You know, 363 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 2: years ago I interviewed a bunch of Holocaust survivors and 364 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 2: I've told this story before, but one of the women 365 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: were We went to their home and they were in 366 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 2: it was an apartment building in south floor and the 367 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 2: husband the wife had been in Auschwitz, and the husband 368 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 2: had been in Dacau out and Auschwitz, and. 369 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: He was He talked almost the whole time. 370 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: He told the whole story of their life and the 371 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 2: oppression and going through the concentration camps. And she sat silent, 372 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: and I noted, I thought, you know, she hasn't said 373 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: a word. She didn't seem to want to say a word. 374 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 2: She looked angry, and probably because I was asking very 375 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: naive questions at the time, because I didn't I didn't 376 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 2: live through World War two, you know, and I had 377 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 2: this very naive American view of religious freedom and how 378 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 2: we were all going to be able to do whatever 379 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 2: we want. You know, this is like kind of utopian 380 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 2: view of what America was. And as I walked out 381 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: the door, we packed all of our stuff out up 382 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 2: and as I walked out the door, she grabbed my 383 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 2: arm and I looked down at her, and she said, 384 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 2: they hate the Jews, and they'll do it again. And 385 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 2: even then I thought, oh, that will never happen, Like 386 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 2: this must be such a deep trauma. 387 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: How naive, how naive just a few years ago. 388 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, you see it on every campus. And 389 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 3: so I went and I don't know if you could 390 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 3: see it. I got I got the star, David, and 391 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 3: it's a Israeli flagged on my arm. I can't wait 392 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 3: till somebody says something about so I can educate them, 393 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 3: because obviously these people are ignorant, do not understand history. 394 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: Right, that's exactly right. 395 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 2: And yet we have these young people today who will 396 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 2: stand up and say they don't believe that you should 397 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 2: be able to pray in the public square, that you 398 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 2: shouldn't they shouldn't have even a preacher on campus, that 399 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: no one should be able to speak from the Bible 400 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 2: on campus. And that is we to hear everybody, Oh, 401 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 2: your rights are getting taken away, your rights on the left, 402 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 2: your rights are getting taken away. Well, this is this 403 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 2: is genuinely you're right. You're right to religious freedom is 404 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 2: genuinely you're right. And the idea that they're there are 405 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 2: people in this country who want to take that right away, 406 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: and many of them very naively want to take that 407 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: right away. And I suspected that potentially, even at your school, 408 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: the person who did that wasn't somebody that hated Christians, 409 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: somebody who had the idea in their head that you 410 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 2: weren't allowed to you weren't allowed to be religious. 411 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what's said is we've been programmed for that. 412 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 3: And the big thing that was my point of standing 413 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 3: up was also the free speech, because free speech and 414 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 3: the free exercise they go hand in hand. They're not 415 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:38,239 Speaker 3: opposing forces, which used to be the case, and I 416 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 3: am so glad that they do work in cohesiveness. And 417 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 3: if people want to say, hey, you shouldn't be allowed 418 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 3: to pray in public, well guess what we should have 419 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 3: the right to say, We're going to pray in public. 420 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: It's nobody has special rights with These are the rights 421 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 3: that were given to us. God gave us these rights, 422 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 3: and our constitution is to protect them and to make 423 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,479 Speaker 3: sure that they are not taken away. Imagine if they 424 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 3: took the first Amendment away, boom, then the second and 425 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 3: the third, then where are we? And you could see 426 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 3: that domino where that leads to we'll be Venezuela in 427 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 3: months if that happens. 428 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 2: You're such an inspirational example though, of someone who said, 429 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 2: I know this is my right, and you did because 430 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: you fought for it. And I think that's also key 431 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 2: here is that as a marine, you came out and 432 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 2: you were like, no, I am allowed to do this. 433 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: I know I'm allowed to do this, But it's not 434 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: just that you're allowed. 435 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: I think the point here is that you talked about 436 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: the case that kind of set the precedent for people 437 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: believing that you couldn't do it. There had to be 438 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 2: a new precedent set. There had to be someone willing 439 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 2: to go all the way to the Supreme Court to 440 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: set that new precedent. And that's what I think is 441 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 2: so amazing here. That's what cannot be lost on people 442 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: is that you don't just give up. You don't just 443 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: walk away when you are close to something. You keep fighting. 444 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: When you know what's right, when you know that's the 445 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: right thing, you don't let it go. 446 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 3: And that is perfectly said. And every time I try to, 447 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 3: I do these interviews and they say, what's a word 448 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 3: of advice for somebody It might be struggling, And it's 449 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 3: so simple. It's a simple a thing you do what's right. Yeah, 450 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 3: it might not be easy because we worry about what 451 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 3: the repercussions are, but we're called to fight the good fight, 452 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 3: finish a race, and remain faithful. Nowhere in there doesn't 453 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 3: say that we have to win it because God's got 454 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 3: that victory. We're just called to stand up and do 455 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 3: what's right and it's simple. So more people should just 456 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 3: do that and like God take care of the rest. 457 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 2: I agree absolutely. So there's a film coming out and 458 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 2: it is called Average Joe tell Us a little bit 459 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 2: about that. 460 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, we didn't want it to just be the boring 461 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 3: story or the headlines that you see of praying coach 462 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 3: and winning a Supreme Court. We wanted to tell the 463 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 3: whole entire story of my wife and myself in our lives, 464 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: of how we went through real rough child like a 465 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 3: lot of people do. People are going to relate to 466 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 3: this so well. Abusive homes, broken homes, and how our 467 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 3: lives just intertwined the whole entire time, going into the 468 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 3: military ship for me to escape my wife fighting getting 469 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 3: married and being an abusive relationship, fighting her own war, 470 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 3: and really how we got together and God putting us 471 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 3: together onto this trip. And really it's about this much 472 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 3: of the lawsuit itself, of but it explains it really well. 473 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 3: And it's a movie that is a roller coaster. You 474 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 3: will cry, You are going to laugh, you're going to 475 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 3: get mad. It is so well done. It's not one 476 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 3: of those cheesy religious films. It's got like a ninety 477 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: nine percent rating on Rotten Tomatoes and Fendango, so it's 478 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 3: it's a good movie. And I'm not saying that because 479 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 3: it's mine, because I thought it was going to suck, 480 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 3: because it's my story. That's not it doesn't even sound 481 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 3: like a good story. But people are just automatically respond 482 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 3: to it, and I haven't gotten any bad feedback. Everybody's 483 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: loving it and more and more they're telling everybody to 484 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 3: go see this movie because it's a perfect way to 485 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 3: tell people about the love of our country, the love 486 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 3: of your spouse, and the love of your God and 487 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: putting all those together. 488 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 2: It's your story, but it's our story because we are 489 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 2: all born sinners. We all go through heartbreak, we're all 490 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: broken people, and we are all clawing every minute to 491 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: get to the Lord. And that is what you did, 492 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 2: and that is where how you continued through this journey. 493 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 2: I mean, your faithfulness is incredible and at the time 494 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 2: it probably didn't feel like that. At the time, there 495 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: were moments where I mean, I know how this goes. 496 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: It's like am I being faithful? Is this what you want? 497 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 3: You know? 498 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 2: But you were and he I mean just like the 499 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,479 Speaker 2: stories that we're reading the Bible. The stories of the 500 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 2: Bible are filled with broken people who clawed their way 501 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 2: to the Lord and did it with everything that they could, saying, 502 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 2: I believe in you, I trust in you. I trust 503 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,239 Speaker 2: you are taking me in the right place. And this, 504 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 2: to me is like the modern day Biblical story of 505 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 2: someone who fought for God for his glory and ultimately prevailed. 506 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: And this is to go out there and show other people. 507 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 2: Look just like you've been broken, just like you've been hurt, 508 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: there is hope, there is light, and there is a 509 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 2: way to get there. And this is to me. 510 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: I know you say, this is not one of those 511 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: cheesy good movies. 512 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 2: There is no better story though about faith than this, 513 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: and I just love it. So tell people where they 514 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 2: can get where they can find average Joe. 515 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not really original and I keep thinks simple. 516 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 3: So average joemovie dot com go in right. You could 517 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 3: go in there and put your zip code and it'll 518 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,479 Speaker 3: tell you what theaters and all the times you can 519 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 3: buy your tickets on there. You could go to Fendango 520 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 3: you could go to just about anywhere movies are playing, 521 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 3: and it's being played all over the United States. But yeah, 522 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 3: go to average showmovie dot com and share it after 523 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 3: you see it, share it with everybody. We need to 524 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 3: be the light in this darkness right especially at this 525 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: time in our history of America. 526 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 2: Yes, there is a light out there. That is the 527 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 2: path walk with Jesus. Thank you so much, Coach Joe Kennedy. 528 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 2: What an amazing story. Thank you for sharing. 529 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 3: You are awesome. Keep fighting the good fight. 530 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely, you too, and thank you all you all keep 531 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 2: fighting the good fight too. Thanks for joining us on 532 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 2: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Make sure you subscribe at tutordisonpodcast 533 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 2: dot com or head over to the iHeartRadio app, Apple 534 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 2: Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and join us 535 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: next time on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 536 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: Have a blessed day.