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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back with citizen journalist Ashton Forbes discussing

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Speaker 2: missing Malaysian Airlines Flight three seventy so the likely location

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Speaker 2: of the plane. It was sort of teleported in a

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Speaker 2: sense to Diego Garcia. How do you how do you

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Speaker 2: keep I mean, assuming some of the passengers are alive,

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Speaker 2: how do you keep something like that quiet?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, great question, Richard. So I think this kind of

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Speaker 3: was a conspiracy angle, which is what I think is

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Speaker 3: the largest verifiable conspiracy of all time. A lot of

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Speaker 3: people out there listening and probably going, well, what about

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Speaker 3: this debris? I thought we found some debris. So let

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Speaker 3: me first just go ahead and destroyed official narratives. This

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Speaker 3: plane did not crash into the South Indian Ocean. We

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Speaker 3: know that because there was no debris field. You can't

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Speaker 3: not have a debris field in the seven seven seven

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Speaker 3: crash into the ocean. There's no possible way where this

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Speaker 3: just slowly hit the water then sank into the depths.

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Speaker 3: There's going to be a debris field everywhere, bodies, luggage,

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Speaker 3: parts of the plane. We're going to see it from

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Speaker 3: States the next day, it was the most expensive search

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Speaker 3: in history. The official search did not find one piece

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Speaker 3: of the plane, not one. The black boxes were not

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Speaker 3: found despite them looking across the entire seventh arcs for

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Speaker 3: these boxes, and they can produce signals for up to

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Speaker 3: twenty thousand depths for thirty days. The SOCI system, same

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Speaker 3: system that heard the Titan subtop, would have heard the

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Speaker 3: acoustic detection of this plane hitting the ocean. There's two

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Speaker 3: other hydrophones. Western Australia has hydrophones, so does Diego Garcia,

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Speaker 3: that same military base. Neither of them heard detections for

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Speaker 3: the plane crashing in the South Indian Ocean. There's two

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Speaker 3: radar systems that would have seen it, Indonesia's and Australia system.

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Speaker 3: The Joran system would have seen the plane. This is

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Speaker 3: an active shipping route from Africa to Australia. It supposedly

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Speaker 3: crashed in the early morning, but there was no witnesses

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Speaker 3: that saw the plane or saw a crash, or saw

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Speaker 3: a debris field. The official flight path has it running

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Speaker 3: out of a lot of people then go to this

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Speaker 3: This default to say, well, the ocean is really big.

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Speaker 3: There's literally nowhere else for the plane to go. They

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Speaker 3: searched everywhere it possibly could, assuming fuel exhaustion in the

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Speaker 3: plane they searched. The official narrative says that this plane

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Speaker 3: crashed at a ninety degree angle initially, which is impossible

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Speaker 3: for a plane. And again, if you're doing a swan

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Speaker 3: dive from a seven to seven to seven, it's not

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Speaker 3: going to just go right through the water. It's going

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Speaker 3: to explode pieces everywhere. They later changed this to a

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Speaker 3: fourteen degree angle the Hudson River.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me just ask jump in here. Wasn't there

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Speaker 2: some debris found on a beach in Madagascar, Madagascar by

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Speaker 2: some He was an American lawyer, I think Blaine Gibson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna get right to that, but I want

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Speaker 3: to do a couple more things before we get to

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Speaker 3: that part. But so the change the narrative said, this

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Speaker 3: plane was coming at an angle. It's not like land

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Speaker 3: in the Hudson River. This plane is going to rip apart.

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Speaker 3: There are four redundant ELT beacons on this plane that

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Speaker 3: are activated on crash. None of them did nineteen families

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Speaker 3: of the victims find a statement, and that could call

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Speaker 3: the victim's phones for up to four days. So there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of evidence for why this plane didn't crash. Now,

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Speaker 3: some debris was found, not by the official search on

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Speaker 3: Matta Gascar, Reunion Island. This debris, some of it actually

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Speaker 3: has burn marks on it, and the burn mark pieces

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Speaker 3: actually have a honeycomb pattern consistent with Bowing airlines. Only

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Speaker 3: three pieces have been confirmed to be parts of the plane.

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Speaker 3: Only one was matched with a serial number. The flapperon

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Speaker 3: that they often talk about. What the media doesn't mention

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Speaker 3: a unique Cereal plate. You can google this. It was

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Speaker 3: missing despite the fact that presumably bolted on to the

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Speaker 3: Flaparon Jeff Wise in the documentary I think mentions, or

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Speaker 3: at least he's got some blog posts mentioned how he

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Speaker 3: thinks this debris was planted ineptly. Now, the theory that

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Speaker 3: we've proposed here from my organization says that we can

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Speaker 3: bring this degree back in if there was a fire.

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Speaker 3: The tiny amounts of debris, which you go look up

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Speaker 3: less than one percent of the plane. It's almost nothing.

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Speaker 3: So they did not find a plane. They did not

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Speaker 3: find enough debris for a plane, and there was an

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Speaker 3: equivalent plane purchased by ga Telesis A nine m MRK

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Speaker 3: scrapped in October of twenty thirteen, just six months before this.

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Speaker 3: That's an exact replica of MH three seven zero, also

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Speaker 3: purchased from Malaysian Airlines. Gatalysis has close ties to the

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Speaker 3: A three seven zero, especially because we're talking about a

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Speaker 3: teleportation event where this plane went from one location to

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: So that brings us back to the passengers two hundred

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Speaker 2: and thirty nine, including the crew. Assuming some survive your

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Speaker 2: most or God willing, all they go back to their families.

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Speaker 2: Presumably how do you keep something like this.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure they went back to their families. A

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Speaker 3: lot of the families have been silenced, they have been

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Speaker 3: forced into settlements. From what I've been told, I talked

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Speaker 3: to all pretty much all the official investigators. I think

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Speaker 3: the one I respect the most is Florence to Cheney.

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Speaker 3: I want to give her a shout out. I feel

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Speaker 3: like her. The narratives into what she believes have been

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Speaker 3: distorted by the media, and she has done probably the

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Speaker 3: most in depth investigation from a kind of looking at

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Speaker 3: it from a criminal investigation the same way that I do.

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Speaker 3: A lot of them have moved on. If you are

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Speaker 3: going to silence them, then you are paying them off

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Speaker 3: with the settlement and then they have like a non

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Speaker 3: disclosure agreement they can't talk about the case. Ever. Again,

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Speaker 3: they did not get much money. If you go look

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Speaker 3: Australian ones who got a little bit more for having

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Speaker 3: these cases tried in Australia. So you might argue that

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Speaker 3: if people did survive, like the American passenger, perhaps they

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Speaker 3: got put into witness protection, given a new identity, told

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Speaker 3: knew up again. But a lot of this is speculative,

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Speaker 3: where they appeared, how many people could have survived this. Again,

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Speaker 3: it's not looking great for a lot of these passengers.

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Speaker 2: The vast majority I think of the well, not the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that that part would be really easy.

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Speaker 3: Of China. Malaysia, Obama went and visited Malaysia for the

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Speaker 3: So you could argue that they were establishing the cover up.

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Speaker 3: You know, one interesting factor from the Malaysia Minster Defense

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Speaker 3: my life. He argues that they the plane was unidentified,

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Speaker 3: But if the one of the most likely snares is

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Speaker 3: it's with them and Batterifire. They knew it was an emergency.

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Speaker 3: It was an emergency situation, not a hostile event. They

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Speaker 3: tracking it, they were already in communication. They actually only

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Speaker 3: released the communications from the pilots much later on after

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Speaker 1: On the drone.

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Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, Yeah, go ahead, Ashton.

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Speaker 3: Well, one thing I just really want to make sure

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Speaker 3: might be some video game effecting here. That is all false.

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Speaker 3: That is disinformation that's being pushed out there. We have

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Speaker 3: debunked every single debunk that's out there right now, and

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Speaker 3: we even have a bounty one hundred and twenty thousand

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Speaker 3: made these videos if you think that they're fake, and

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Speaker 3: produce the source files. This comes from Kim dot com

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Speaker 3: on Twitter and the Investigate Earth podcast, who put in

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Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty thousand dollars respectively. That's how strongly

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Speaker 3: they believe that these videos are authentic. So if anybody

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Speaker 3: find the person that made them and bring the source files.

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Speaker 3: You can collect that money.

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Speaker 2: Again if you want to see the video. If you haven't,

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Speaker 2: go to the Coast to Coast am dot com website

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Speaker 2: and under Tonight's show information, just click on Ashton's name

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Speaker 2: and that will take you right to his YouTube channel

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Speaker 2: at just x Ashton. At just x Ashton there you'll

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Speaker 2: see the stereoscopic satellite video and also the footage taken

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Speaker 2: from the drone with a thermal imaging overlay. Don't you

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Speaker 2: find it kind of coincidental though, that the US military

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Speaker 2: In other words, they had the drone there. How do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we think that that drone was deployed from

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Speaker 3: technology we find. Lieutenant Commander Edward Celynn took weeks of

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Speaker 3: There's no evidence of that. The defense argued that the

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Speaker 3: very apologetic about it. I foiled the NCIS. They're head

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Speaker 3: the case under an Obama era executive order that is

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Speaker 3: He's my hero. I would do anything for this guy,

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Speaker 2: Are you able to Have you spoken with his lawyer?

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Speaker 2: Have you reached out to his lawyer?

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Speaker 3: Great question? I have. I did reach out to the lawyer.

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Speaker 3: I thought that that was the best way to go

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Speaker 3: I talked to a clerk. They called me back on

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