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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios here

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Speaker 3: on the eve of the two best words in sports.

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Speaker 2: Game seven.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Alex Monico, Martin Wise here joining you.

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Speaker 2: That's not all the WAP.

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Speaker 3: I'm Martin Weiss, joined here by Alex Monico. Alex, So

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Speaker 3: pleasure to be here with you, my friend.

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Speaker 4: Fired up Marin, Absolute honor and pleasure. You know how

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Speaker 4: much we talked ball off air. Fired out to be

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Speaker 4: talking on with you. So Alex, you find him on

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Speaker 4: MSG networks. He is doing all types of stuff for

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Speaker 4: the Knicks, the Liberty, the Rangers, the who else?

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Speaker 2: You tell me.

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Speaker 4: Listen, we got an action packed network. Little Devil's Little

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Speaker 4: Islanders shout out of course, the Sabers. Yeah, we're we're

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Speaker 4: all encompassing there in the Northeast, but mainly the Knicks

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Speaker 4: as we know.

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Speaker 3: And uh, maybe we'll touch on the next potential trade

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Speaker 3: destination for Kevin de May.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe they'll hire a coach.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe they'll just you know what, in

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Speaker 3: NBA history, it would be a team like the Knicks

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Speaker 3: to have that player coach, aspect or maybe they'll just

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Speaker 3: do an Aau style and have Rick Brunton slide over

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Speaker 3: one seat. But you know what, that's off season news,

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Speaker 3: and I for one refuse to discuss offseason news when

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Speaker 3: again we are on the day only one day better

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Speaker 3: than this. This is number twenty fourth. I'm with here the

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Speaker 3: day before Game seven Oklahoma City and the Oklahoma City

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Speaker 3: Thunder and the Indiana Pacers and a series in which

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Speaker 3: Alex I mean I was, I was told, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's two small markets. No one's gonna watch it, tall

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Speaker 3: small mark. Why did anybody even want to watch this?

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Speaker 3: And why did anybody even care? And then you consider

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Speaker 3: the fact that it's David versus Goliath because OKC is

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Speaker 3: just this mountain of a team with sixty eight wins,

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Speaker 3: but Jay Kills's elephant MVP and they got more picks.

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Speaker 3: They're set up to the next ten years. That went

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Speaker 3: seven to ten, not one, not two, not three.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, they.

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Speaker 3: Didn't win the last game as I got pounded by

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Speaker 3: the Indiana Pacers, who you know, secretly quietly back to

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Speaker 3: back Eastern Conference finals and going through it as you

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Speaker 3: sit here and watch it, you know, me and you

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Speaker 3: were both big Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Guys know it. I don't care what the odds were.

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Speaker 3: This series was way closer than anybody had factored into

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Speaker 3: and in Game seven I expect a close margin as well.

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Speaker 4: Martin, this is a as you allude to two favorite words

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Speaker 4: in all of sports. Game seven it is gets your

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Speaker 4: t o popcorn ready type box office. For me, I

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Speaker 4: love the Indiana Pacers story. I had to take my medicine. Obviously.

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Speaker 4: I was on the Knicks to the whole Eastern Conference run.

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Speaker 4: And then I saw in person, well, Rick Carlisle and

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Speaker 4: his staff does and they have outfoxed every single coaching

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Speaker 4: staff to this point and pre flop on this series,

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Speaker 4: and I was all over the Pacers Martin. I had

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Speaker 4: it kind of like a metaphor. This is a little

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Speaker 4: Andy Reid vers Kyle Shanahan, not exactly stylistic, just a

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Speaker 4: head coach in his mid sixties. Sure, and Mark, I

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Speaker 4: call Marky Mark and the funky bunch over there haven't

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Speaker 4: seen everything at all at forty years old.

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Speaker 2: Just for the rest of America.

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Speaker 3: He's talking about Mark dagnauld who that's the guy who's

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Speaker 3: standing up wearing the quartership on Oklahoma City sideline.

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Speaker 2: He's the head coach.

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Speaker 3: I know that, seriously, you might be able to sell

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Speaker 3: Mark Dadnel disguises for Halloween, not costumes.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 4: But in all seriousness, Mark Martin, this is a forty

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Speaker 4: year old who had not obviously had the adversity. And

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Speaker 4: that's the one thing with the OKC kind of narrative

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Speaker 4: going into the series and the whole season. They were,

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Speaker 4: believe it or not, one of the most favored teams

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Speaker 4: But no one was looking at really what this was

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Speaker 4: versatile as this Thunder team has been. But no one

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Speaker 4: had it on their bingo card that this was a

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Speaker 4: Pacers team that was going to go out and take

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Speaker 4: the East. Now, okay, see I claimed me won the

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Speaker 4: West by default. They were just a little bit of

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Speaker 4: turnover from last year. Pepper And and Crusoe, pepper and and Hartenstein,

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Speaker 4: and no one was prepared in the West. Yeah, Julius Randall,

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Speaker 4: two point zero you prayed for and then they went against.

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Speaker 2: Two teams with no coach.

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Speaker 4: And that was to me going into the series, how

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Speaker 4: I was telling myself that the Pacers were just disrespected,

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Speaker 2: And I know you were on Indiana.

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Speaker 4: But here we are in game seven, where anything can happen,

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Speaker 4: and are we gonna go with the adult in the

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Speaker 4: room here? Are we gonna go with the guy that's

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Speaker 4: ever been there, who already messed with the flow and

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Speaker 4: the funk sway by starting Casey Wallace game one?

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Speaker 2: And I think, okay, so people will be like, all right,

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Speaker 2: I get it, but they're in a fourteen point leading

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Speaker 2: game one. What it's about the mentality? To me, it's

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Speaker 2: about the attitude.

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Speaker 3: To me, like, we just sat here and watched three

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Speaker 3: games that a Dodgers played the padres, Right, yeah, and

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Speaker 3: bank that was on accident, right, but you know what

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Speaker 3: shilt the manager's padres. He said, I don't care if

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Speaker 3: it's a lie. We fight on that lie. You hit

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Speaker 3: I'm going out there. I'm going to deal with it.

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Speaker 3: Everybody kind of knows that was not on purpose, but

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Speaker 3: you know what, I don't care.

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Speaker 2: I love it. At this point we're.

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Speaker 3: Fighting, and so to me, the attitude. That's the attitude

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Speaker 3: that I'm having. If I'm this sixty eight win team,

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Speaker 3: if I'm the team that has dominated as regular season,

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Speaker 3: I just team that dominated the conference finals. Meanwhile, on

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Speaker 3: the other side of Indiana is the one that the Knicks.

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Speaker 3: However you want to say, this series kind of played

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Speaker 3: out to me. We have been sleeping on Indiana this

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Speaker 3: entire time. We have not given them that level of respect.

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Speaker 3: And when I think about Okays in the way that

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Speaker 3: you're talking about them, they do. Everybody keeps saying this

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Speaker 3: that if Indiana somehow wins this series, that is everything

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Speaker 3: we know about basketball is thrown out of the window.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe it.

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Speaker 3: And I get where people are coming from because they're saying,

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Speaker 3: in the regular season at the league, MVP.

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Speaker 2: You know what, Yeah, that.

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Speaker 3: Team should win over a six what sixth seed in

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Speaker 3: always been true of NBA playoffs is where did you

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Speaker 3: take your lumps?

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Speaker 2: Say it again?

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Speaker 3: So like Oklahoma City got washed out of the second

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Speaker 3: round by Kyrie and Luca last year, yep.

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Speaker 2: That where's oh.

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Speaker 3: Indiana is the team that took that bump in the

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Speaker 3: Eastern Conference Final. When Jalen Brown came out afterwards and said,

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Speaker 3: in a five game gentleman's sweep, I believe if it

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Speaker 3: was not four to Roho and in general, no, it

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Speaker 3: games one, three, and four, the margin was less than

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Speaker 3: seven points. And Jalen Brown was like, I don't know

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Speaker 3: what these dudes were doing. They were shooting like Devil's

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Speaker 3: magic into the room and everything was going in. And

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Speaker 3: that's a series in which your one of your stars,

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Speaker 3: Tyre's Haliburton got hurt, and you give me another regular

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Speaker 3: season with that other than built in Indiana to me

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Speaker 2: And I love that Martin. Just to add to your

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Speaker 4: Now, no one wanted to live in this reality that

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Speaker 4: this OKCS median age was will be would be the

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Speaker 4: youngest championship team since the late Bill Walton seventies Blazers,

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Speaker 4: and I kept calling them the pups. They're the pups.

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Speaker 4: We talked off air, we talk on air about it.

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Speaker 4: It's a different regular season. This team just showed up

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Speaker 4: every night in the regular season, and again, to your thought,

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Speaker 4: has not ran into except for Denver who was banged up.

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Speaker 2: With no coach. Jokich is a player coach.

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Speaker 4: They're halfway to a Serbian horse race because he knows

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Speaker 4: they're not going the season biscuit distance. And here we are,

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Speaker 4: outside of a ag hamstring in game seven, talking about

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Speaker 4: and look at what we're staring at Game seven, where

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Speaker 4: anything can happen.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you. I'll put it like this.

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Speaker 3: Oh, during the first run of the playoffs, I unveiled

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Speaker 3: my if you're up three to zero, we should just

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Speaker 3: call it a sweep take because of the Oklahoma City

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Speaker 2: Fourth game if this Memphis doesn't deserve another home.

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Speaker 3: Game of this series. Yeah, but this is the thing

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Speaker 3: of one of the most confounding things that I find

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Speaker 3: in the food world.

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Speaker 3: Frozen yogurt okay is fire right, you put the right

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Speaker 5: Regular yogurt smells terrible, It's disgusting, and the only thing

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Speaker 5: that changed is the temperature of it.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: See when they got a ten point lead, fifteen point lead,

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Speaker 3: they can't lose.

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Speaker 2: It feels like they can't lose, can't miss, can't.

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Speaker 3: And then as soon as the heat turns up, as

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Speaker 3: soon as cheed Holmgren is guarded by somebody who's just

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Speaker 3: more sandwiches. Right, as soon as that happens, he erace

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Speaker 3: from the game. He's in his head, right as soon

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Speaker 3: as that happens. Now, SGA I think is still solid.

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Speaker 3: I think SGA, you can pencil him in. He's gonna

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Speaker 3: at least rise to the moment. He's gonna take the shots, right,

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Speaker 3: so some guys are not taking these shots. Does JDub

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Speaker 3: game to step up and really hoop like that. I

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Speaker 3: don't think check does based off of this series. Now,

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Speaker 3: maybe he will down the line. These guys are in

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Speaker 3: year three, right, so This is way sped up for them.

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Speaker 3: They are taking calculus right now in the eighth grade.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 2: However, we're here now, baby, it's time to take the class.

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Speaker 3: And on the other side of this thing you got

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Speaker 3: Rick Carlisle, who's already won the championship against a formidable

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Speaker 3: Lebron and all that.

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Speaker 2: Pascal Siakam, who probably.

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Speaker 3: The best player on a championship team, like already like

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Speaker 3: definitely definitely lifted the trophy. And Tyres Haliburton has shown

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Speaker 3: he may have seven points in the fourth forty, he

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Speaker 3: may have fifteen, but with two seconds left, down by one,

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Speaker 3: if he's got the ball, you probably feel good about it.

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Speaker 4: To me, you're laying out a case where we have

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Speaker 4: to take the adults in the room, Martin. And what's

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Speaker 4: fascinating is this whole series has been Can you think

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Speaker 3: it in a rush. National Dor Sanders was reported. There's

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Speaker 4: I'm hoping he continues to move up the Madden depth

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Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of shador.

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Speaker 4: I think he's very much an NFL quarterback in today's league.

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Speaker 4: This obviously doesn't help. I mean, you know it, The

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Speaker 2: But we talked off. Here'll toss it back to you.

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Speaker 2: I got pulled over. You're right, you're right.

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Speaker 3: You know that's one of those that's the real investigative

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Speaker 2: The easiest to deal with. I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 3: I think of all the different issues in Cleveland, this

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Speaker 2: And the position he's in is that.

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Speaker 2: he said, I think ninety percent of the hate that

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Speaker 2: I receive is based off people's opinions about my father.

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Speaker 3: I I to one hundred percent think that's the case

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Speaker 3: with Brandy James. When you see the outrage that happens,

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Speaker 3: how can you take the fifty fifth overall?

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Speaker 2: Pick? Oh my god, the humanity? Right? But like so

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Speaker 2: I think when you see these guys, I think there

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Speaker 2: is a.

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Speaker 3: Level, even on a smaller scale a Lonzo Ball and

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Speaker 3: LaMelo Ball, and you look at their dad and how

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Speaker 3: he was, and then you look at them in the pros.

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Speaker 3: I think there's something to it, right, So I think

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Speaker 3: I give grace to guys who seem to be normal

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Speaker 3: despite having rock star parents. It doesn't mean he could play,

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Speaker 3: That doesn't mean no last in the NFL. It just

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Speaker 3: means to me, he seems to have a better head

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Speaker 3: on his shoulders than I think.

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Speaker 2: It's being discussed. Well, you made a good point. He

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Speaker 2: handled it.

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Speaker 4: He downplayed everything. He was clearly handling that all with.

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Speaker 4: I guess you, what do you call good manners in

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Speaker 4: that is? This is manners prevalent in that moment. I mean,

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Speaker 4: just you know, so now it's to me, it's a moment,

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Speaker 4: but it's not a crazy blow it up story, right

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Speaker 4: because he handled himself like a professional in that moment

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Speaker 4: the best he could.

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Speaker 3: This is what it is. It's something you put in

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Speaker 3: the book. Now, it's on the first page of the book.

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Speaker 3: How long is the book going to be?

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Speaker 2: The book?

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Speaker 3: Maybe one page long on that side, and then nobody

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Speaker 3: will care at ten years from now. If the book

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Speaker 3: is ten years long, then guess what it won't be

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Speaker 3: in the NFL for all of them. I'll guarantee you

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Speaker 3: that acts now from there to a guy who's in

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Speaker 3: the NFL for way longer than ten.

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Speaker 2: Years, but leader of men questionable? All right.

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Speaker 3: now with the news for everyone and about everything, Steve

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Speaker 3: de Seger.

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Speaker 7: Hello, guys, there is baseball tonight. Of course, it's Saturday

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Speaker 7: on Fox TV and most of the country seeing the

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Speaker 7: Mets at Phillies. The Mets are a game back at

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Speaker 7: first place Philadelphia in the nl EAS Mets have lost

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Speaker 7: seven in a row. They're leading at Philly tonight, four

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Speaker 7: to three. In the bottom of the fourth inning, the

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Speaker 7: Mets hit back to back to back home runs. In

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Speaker 7: the third, Francisco Lindor with his fifteenth Brandon Nemo has

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Speaker 7: hit two. Tonight, he has fifteen. Juan Soto hit his

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Speaker 7: fifteenth of the year. Part of the country seeing the

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Speaker 7: game from San Diego, where the Padres are ahead two

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Speaker 7: to one on the Royals in the top of the fifth.

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Speaker 7: Kansas City has won four straight. Saint Louis won its

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Speaker 7: fifth straight game and eleven inning win over Cincinnati six

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Speaker 7: to five. Cubs ten winners against Seattle. Toronto held the

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Speaker 7: White Sox to two hits in a seven to one

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Speaker 7: victory against Chicago. San Francisco three two over Boston. Rafael

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Speaker 7: Devers exit Boston homerd Texas a three to two winner

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Speaker 7: at Pittsburgh, losing pitcher Mitch Keller now one and ten.

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Speaker 7: Atlanta got a seven nothing win at Miami Braves pitcher

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Speaker 7: Chris Sale, who is hurt this week goes on the

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Speaker 7: injured list with a fractured rib cage. Milwaukee won nine

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Speaker 7: nothing at Minnesota. Yankees nine nothing winners over Baltimore Clark

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Speaker 7: Schmidt the win Orioles held just one hit today. Tampa

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Speaker 7: Bay still a game and a half behind the Yankees

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Speaker 7: in the Al East. The Rays beat Detroit eight to three.

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Speaker 7: The College World Series Finals have started and currently at

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Speaker 7: Omaha Game one of the best of three. It's LSU,

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Speaker 7: a top ten team leading one nothing in the top

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Speaker 7: of the fifth against Coastal Carolina, which has won twenty

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Speaker 7: six games in a row. Two WNBA games on the

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Speaker 7: slate LA at Minnesota Tonight Minnesota eleven and one. Phoenix

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Speaker 7: won now eleven and four after a victory at Chicago

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Speaker 7: one oh seven eighty six. Angel rece of Chicago nine points,

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Speaker 7: two rebounds. NBA Finals Game seven is Sunday, Indiana and

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Speaker 7: Oklahoma City. Overall, the home team in a Finals Game

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Speaker 7: seven has a great winning percentage fifteen and four. US

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Speaker 7: Men's soccer plays against Sunday on Fox TV against Haiti.

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Speaker 7: The Gold Cup tournament is on Fox n FS one.

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Speaker 7: The next IndyCar Race on Fox TV is Sunday at

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Speaker 7: Road America in Wisconsin. Denny Hamlin are in the poll

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Speaker 7: for Sunday's NASCAR event at Pocono and Tommy Fleetwood leads

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Speaker 7: the travelers by three strokes. Jason Day is five.

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Speaker 3: Back back to you, thanks Steve Martin Wiss Alex Monico

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Speaker 3: coming to you live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 2: You want to join the conversation, you can hit us

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Speaker 2: up on Twitter.

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Speaker 3: I'm at Martin Wise, Alex is at Alex Underscore Underscore Monica.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to your tweets throughout the show, like, uh

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Speaker 3: oh thanks bud Derppool says you and Alex Monico are

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Speaker 3: absolutely phenomenal, phenomenal and have great energy.

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Speaker 2: Love the show. Thank you go, Pacers, Let's go.

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Speaker 3: So there you go, oh Pacers, And maybe I'll learn

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Speaker 3: how to read phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: It just gave me a ride.

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Speaker 3: So, speaking of I got no segway. All right, Aaron

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Speaker 3: Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers, now we're talking, all right, Well,

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Speaker 3: speaking of talking, there you go. Aaron Rodgers apparently had

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Speaker 3: a conversation with Mark Shlaret. I know this because Mark

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Speaker 3: Schlaret said that Aaron and I had a conversation about

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Speaker 3: when he was with the Jets and how abysmal their

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Speaker 3: running game was and now schematically it made no sense.

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Speaker 3: I started the conversation, and then Aaron went on for

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Speaker 3: about a twenty five minute diatribe on just their run game.

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Speaker 2: I had two thoughts immediately.

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Speaker 3: The first, Aaron Rodgers picked that offensive coordinator in New

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Speaker 3: York picked the wide receivers in New York.

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Speaker 2: The only thing he didn't pick was the running back.

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Speaker 1: So No.

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Speaker 2: One three. You had an issue with the running game.

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Speaker 3: Secondly, I had a thought, it is terrifying considering the

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Speaker 3: lot of things that Aaron Rodgers could go on a

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Speaker 3: twenty five minute.

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Speaker 2: Diatribe about Slaers. Was lucky that this one was the

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Speaker 2: run game. Now that's a top tier Joe. Right.

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Speaker 3: With all that being said, Alex Monico, the soccer is

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Speaker 3: finally over, Aaron Rodgers, will is it? Pittsburg's dealer slotted

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Speaker 3: in the QB one slot? But you know what, that

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Speaker 3: wind lost total over there in the desert, didn't wiggle?

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers were winking at each other

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Speaker 3: during their respective press conferences, saying, sweet, nothing's about one another.

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Speaker 2: It's me.

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Speaker 3: It is what June twenty first, squarely in the honeymoon stage.

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Speaker 3: All right, we're on day two of honeymoon. How does

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Speaker 3: this end?

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Speaker 2: This ends? Martin?

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Speaker 4: But again, I've seen some San Diego sell cal sun

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Speaker 4: right now, so I'm a little optimistic and not In

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Speaker 4: the middle of the dog.

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Speaker 2: Days was Aaron Rodgers walking on the beach. I was

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Speaker 2: in New York, York, were Aaron Rodgers. I went down swinging,

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Speaker 2: thinking he would.

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Speaker 4: Turn the New York Jets around. But you know, Woody

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Speaker 4: Johnson presses the doctor Evil button and you go down

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Speaker 4: the history of any team with no coach in the

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Speaker 4: middle of the season, and I digress. Now, Martin, I'm

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Speaker 4: I really want to talk this out because Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 4: last year was top ten in touchdowns, he was top

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Speaker 4: ten in passing yards, sure, and he had no structure.

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Speaker 4: And we talk about it also too. He's he's still

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Speaker 4: you know, he's married now, but he's been a you know, apparent,

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Speaker 4: certified battel or whatever you want to call it, and

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Speaker 4: at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 2: I think that's unique.

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Speaker 4: But he also was playing a predominant amount of his

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Speaker 4: years with a no owner scenario in Green Bay. Now

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Speaker 4: you go from almost the playground with no supervision in

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Speaker 4: New York Jets Woody Johnson Land to adults in the

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Speaker 4: room only, to accountability, to a real culture and a

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Speaker 4: show up play ball. Well, we don't really care about

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Speaker 4: any extra curricular. My question to you is with the

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Speaker 4: tallman record and not being under five hundred and Rogers

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Speaker 4: last year still showing he can ball, can the combination

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Speaker 4: of his talent finally resonate with a culture and end

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Speaker 4: with a trophy being lifted, because that is the Hollywood

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Speaker 4: story I want, and I feel I'm too deep in

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Speaker 4: the Aaron Rodgers post Green Bay narrative to see anything other.

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Speaker 3: Have they started lifting trophies for wild card birth yet?

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Speaker 3: Because if so, then yes we could see that end

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Speaker 3: with the trophy being lifted up. But outside of that, no, no,

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Speaker 3: all right, here is that a blow everybody's mind. Two

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Speaker 3: things are true, all right, let's hear it. Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: is worse at quarterback today than he's ever been. Okay, man,

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Speaker 3: I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that. Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: is also better than any quarterback that Pittsburgh twos have

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Speaker 3: had for the last five years.

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Speaker 2: I love the two things can be narrative.

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Speaker 3: So wherever one of the worst that Aaron Rodgers is

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Speaker 3: in his entire life, yeah, is somehow better than the

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Speaker 3: whatever Pittsburgh was throwing out there, all right, Kenny, In fact,

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Speaker 3: Shador Sanders can't drive fast enough.

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Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett's not making this team, all right.

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Speaker 3: They will give Shador Sanders Uber Black, Uber Black subscription

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Speaker 3: before they have Kenny Pickett make this fifty three male roster.

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Speaker 3: So I think the Pittsburgh Steelers will end up like

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Speaker 3: they always do that. Can I just throw something to

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Speaker 3: you though?

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Speaker 4: On the Steelers personnel side from last year, a top

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Speaker 4: ten defense, Okay, they were seventh in points against, they

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Speaker 4: were eleventh in rush yards allowed, they had the fifth

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Speaker 4: highest interception rate, and they were top two and turnover

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Speaker 4: differential at plus sixteen, which to me, we came off

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Speaker 4: the eight block talking about Pacers Thunder.

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Speaker 2: The winner of the Protector of the Rock wins the series.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so Aaron Rodgers a cup of coffee ago had

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Speaker 4: back to back MVPs with not interceptions. If I remember

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Speaker 4: in my rain Man memory in two years, can bond

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Speaker 4: you take that? Aaron Rodgers, which I truly believe this

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Speaker 4: is center grounded Aaron Rodgers. This is a nig my,

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers, There's nowhere to go in the grown man world,

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Speaker 4: but more zen you would hope. Now you have a

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Speaker 4: top ten d a team that knows how to win

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Speaker 4: an eco football games with no quarterback going on yours plural,

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Speaker 4: and we have an opportunity to watch a top talent

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Speaker 4: with a top culture. I'm telling you right, now Vegas

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Speaker 4: has them sorely mispriced. It's almost Pacers to run the

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Speaker 4: table mispriced.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So when you say Vegas has them mispriced, let's

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Speaker 3: let's take a second and walk back. They're twenty two

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Speaker 3: to one to win the AFC, you're saying, And that's

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Speaker 3: where you think the misprice is. So because I, me

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00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 3: and you were way bigger gamblers than we have let

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Speaker 3: onto this show today because I know most not everybody

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Speaker 3: is a degenerate. Yes, sweating out College Baseball World Series hunders.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I want to paint the picture.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that the Steelers have a legitimate chance

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Speaker 3: if you ask legitimate, like, what percentage would you put

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Speaker 3: on the Steelers to win the AFC? Verse you bet

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Speaker 3: one hundred to win twenty twenty or twy two hundred

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Speaker 3: to me.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, Vegas tells you they're obviously not top

656
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Speaker 4: of the table. They're more middle of the pack. But

657
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Speaker 4: stranger things have happened, and I just sit here and

658
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Speaker 4: I go all right. The second half of the schedule

659
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Speaker 4: is daunting. The first half, which a lot of company cultures,

660
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Speaker 4: like a Johnny Harbaugh in Baltimore, like a Kansas City

661
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Speaker 4: Andy Reid led club.

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Speaker 2: They take the first part of the season seriously.

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Speaker 4: And if we're watching this team come out six and two,

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Speaker 4: are we not sitting here and reminding ourselves the one

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Speaker 4: ring Aaron Rodgers has. He did it as a sixth

666
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Speaker 4: seed back in the sixth seed No. Seven seed wildcard

667
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Speaker 4: World and ran the table on the road. I'm not

668
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Speaker 4: saying they're gonna win the AFC North, a top two

669
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Speaker 4: division in football. I'm just saying get in the tournament

670
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 4: and plus money at eight and a half wins when

671
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 4: our guy Tomlin hasn't gone under that. Ever, we need

672
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Speaker 4: to start taking a step back and looking out of

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Speaker 4: the painting a little different because if Tom Brady, who yes,

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Speaker 4: obviously is a completely different leader, can go to a

675
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Speaker 4: Tampa Bay and win in one season because there were

676
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Speaker 4: so many built in assets, where better than Pittsburgh Martin

677
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Speaker 4: for Aaron Rodgers to be slotted for a plug and play.

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Speaker 2: Now, I agree with that.

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Speaker 3: I think that this is the best possible situation for

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Speaker 3: both teams. I just think the ceiling ends at about

681
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Speaker 3: the third floor. You're at the penthouse.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm not asking him to go for three point

683
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Speaker 4: fifty three tugs and al Fox. This is Pittsburgh Steelers football.

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Speaker 4: This is you could argue gross winning games in a

685
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Speaker 4: number of different ways football. This is a California dude

686
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Speaker 4: who plays real December football. I'm I'm just honestly fired up. Look,

687
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Speaker 4: because I don't see this blowing up.

688
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Speaker 3: I see this, I see nine to eight. I see honestly,

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Speaker 3: this is what I hope for as a fan of

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Speaker 3: the game. And I mean this like as somebody who

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Speaker 3: thinks that I have this antiquated idea that this is

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Speaker 3: why things should happen in the way things shouldn't. I

693
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Speaker 3: want Aaron Rodgers and I want Mike Tomlin to win

694
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Speaker 3: a playoff game this year, knock off one of these

695
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Speaker 3: perennial AFC powers, and then some combination of Kansas City, Buffalo,

696
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Speaker 3: and Baltimore will be there at the end. Pittsburgh knocked

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Speaker 3: one of those guys off in a wild card round,

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Speaker 3: whoever's not the one seed, because they'll be two in

699
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Speaker 3: and in, and then we see the other two play

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Speaker 3: and end up representing the AFC in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Tomlin can go off somewhere where they will appreciate him.

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Speaker 3: Rogers can go off into the sunset where you know

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Speaker 3: both can leave with a level of quote unquote on

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Speaker 3: top because I don't.

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Speaker 2: See any level of trophy coming for either one of them. Well,

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Speaker 2: let me ask you this, what is the worst that

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Speaker 2: could happen?

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Speaker 4: Because if Aaron Rodgers comes into the season top ten

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Speaker 4: in yards and touchdowns, then he can still pull this is.

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Speaker 2: The worst that cand happen. I'll tell you the worst

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Speaker 2: second happened Week six.

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Speaker 3: DK metcalf is throwing his pascifier into the stands because

713
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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers throwing the ball away again instead of throwing

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Speaker 3: to him down the rail on single coverage. Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: goes to the postgame press conference, sys Well, DK wasn't

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Speaker 3: on the red line, so I didn't even know where

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Speaker 3: he's supposed to be. Then Dk Metcalf, I can pay

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Speaker 3: the bullet. I can find the way to paint the picture.

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Speaker 2: But coming up. But okay, all right, that's fair.

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Speaker 3: What we won't see, I think in Pittsburgh is something

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Speaker 3: we saw in Major League Baseball yesterday that is literally

722
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Speaker 3: the least amount of efforts you can show at any

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Speaker 3: given moment in time.

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Speaker 2: Calling it lazy is an insult to the lethargic.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to that in just a minute, Martin Weiss,

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Speaker 3: Alex Monico, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Listening to Fox Sports.

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Speaker 3: Martin Wisse, Alex Monico, coming to you live from the

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio studios on the Fox Sports Radio Saturday,

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Speaker 3: Northern Ohio. Might want to take that if I slow down, buddy,

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Speaker 3: hit the brakes. I mean, listen, I don't play the music,

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Speaker 3: all right. The Pittsburgh, the Pittsburgh Pirates. It's dark in

733
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh right now, you know, you know it's dark. They

734
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Speaker 3: had the starters start the All Star Game last year

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Speaker 3: and he can't even rent a car yet and it's

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Speaker 3: still dark.

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Speaker 2: It's dark. No daylight saving time over there. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's very dark.

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Speaker 3: Paul Skins is these shining light and you'd like to

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Speaker 3: think that O'Neil Cruz would also be one.

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Speaker 2: Of them, you would think, Martin. However, my boy's out.

742
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Speaker 3: Here butchering center Field like sex Reality said this apprentice.

743
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Speaker 2: All right, my boy is out here.

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00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 3: Seventeen errors, leads the majors and having on Friday. Listen,

745
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 3: my dad, he's telling me this. If you make a mistake,

746
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Speaker 3: make it as fast as you can, right, you make

747
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 3: it hustling. That's how you make you know, what I'm

748
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: saying was that a sports advice, and definitely sports advice.

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Speaker 3: I could see where the wires could have gotten cross

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Speaker 3: if my dad was my head coach for my life, right,

751
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 3: if he had always been my head coach, I could

752
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 3: see where there might be a.

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00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: Little confusion there. However, he never was. He was a lawyer, though,

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00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 2: and his best advice only break one law at a time.

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00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: It's great advice.

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00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 3: So you know, if you're drinking, don't drive. If you're driving,

757
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 3: don't drink. If that's when they get you, break one

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Speaker 3: lot of time. Anyway, O'Neil Cruise broke two. He broke two.

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Speaker 2: He didn't catch the ball in the outfield, and after

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00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 2: not catching the ball in the outfield, he looked at

761
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: the ball just rolled past him.

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Speaker 3: You got it at least run after it a little bit,

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Speaker 3: as whoever's supposed to be covering you up.

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Speaker 2: It's really the guy charging in now, all right, man.

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Speaker 2: O'Neil Cruise is also one of the fastest players in baseball.

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Speaker 3: He's got the second most tobal basis like he might

767
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 3: get there fafter than homeboy covering Martin.

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Speaker 4: You're having an zero for six day four K's June

769
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 4: twentieth game before today, Oh for five, you're hitting two thirteen.

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Speaker 4: Baseball fans know the Mendoza line is in play here

771
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Speaker 4: for oeal cruise at the plate. The least you can

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Speaker 4: do is show up with Ethos Pathos locos. At least

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Speaker 4: show up. Here's the thing you just alluded to it

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Speaker 4: it's Paul Skins and who that are the leaders in

775
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Speaker 4: the clubhouse we're talking about is my same thing with Sodo.

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Speaker 2: Everyone is watching you.

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00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 4: You let a groundball go by, and we now got

778
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Speaker 4: to go back to Little league to talk about in tangibles.

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Speaker 2: Or and Okay, I get it. They're thirty and forty seven.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they could be a miracle Angels in the NFL

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Speaker 3: team but not really already fired the manager, like you know,

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Speaker 3: it's over.

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00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 2: I get it, it's over.

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Speaker 5: It was the first inning. It was the first inning.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't not there on the scoreless game, like I

786
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Speaker 5: get it.

787
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Speaker 2: If if it was eight to nothing, I still think

788
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 2: it was ridiculous, but I could understand. I could get it.

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Speaker 2: This was it was the first inning.

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Speaker 4: The thing is is baseball is a fickle sport. It's

791
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 4: not like basketball, and it's a game of confidence in

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00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 4: runs it's a clubhouse energy. And what's the energy, Martin?

793
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Speaker 4: If you're star player, if we're gonna call him that,

794
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 4: who has played shortstop for this club, who's in center field,

795
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Speaker 4: the captain of the outfield, and he he broke your

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Speaker 4: pops rule.

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Speaker 2: He broke two rules in one air.

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Speaker 3: I mean between that and there was another one in

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Speaker 3: later in the seventh inning that he just misplayed by

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Speaker 3: Marcus Shimeion that ended up being that should have been

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Speaker 3: an error. If I was grading or scoring the game,

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Speaker 3: I would have called it an error. And that's something

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Speaker 3: that I I wish that the guys who called Major

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Speaker 3: League Baseball errors were grading my test in college, because

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Speaker 3: I mean, it seems to be easy.

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Speaker 2: But the other thing about this O'Neil Cruz and Paul Skins,

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Speaker 2: did that matter? Do you know they're gonna trade at

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Speaker 2: some point? Everybody's watching, everybody's watching.

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Speaker 3: You know they're gonna trade it. You might as well go.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of everybody's watching, the Lakers just sold for.

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Speaker 1: What you don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Radio Martin Wiss Alex Monico coming to you live from

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Speaker 3: the Fox Sports Radio studios in Los Angeles, California, and

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Speaker 3: Los Angeles, California felt an earthquake of sorts, not necessarily

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Speaker 3: one that shucked or shook the Richter scale, but the

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Speaker 3: NBA at.

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Speaker 2: Large, huge office. I mean, lord, have mercy.

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Speaker 3: Genie Buss selling the Lakers to Mark Walter ten billion

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Speaker 3: dollar valuation.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 3: Remember when we were kids and people used to be like,

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Speaker 3: can you imagine a million dollars? And it was like no,

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Speaker 3: I also can't imagine ten billions.

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Speaker 2: So there you go.

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Speaker 4: I hate to plug Doctor Evil two times in one

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Speaker 4: sit down, but remember the ongoing Austin Powers one million,

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Speaker 4: everyone laugh, one billion?

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Speaker 2: Right with the pinky, I got some head turns now

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Speaker 2: it's multi billion. Yeah, ten billion dollars.

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Speaker 6: I know this.

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Speaker 2: But on Boston Celtics, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Like, way, I can't, okay, don't have for the phone, guys,

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Speaker 3: turn it off, turn it off.

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Speaker 2: They haven't finalized of sale yet.

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Speaker 3: Six million for six billion for Boton, ten for Los Angeles.

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Speaker 3: Genie Bus allegedly will keeping minority share of the team

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Speaker 3: just over fifteen percent for a period of time.

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Speaker 2: Just to ask Mark Cuban how that goes.

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Speaker 3: But I will say, Genie Bus, right now, help having

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Speaker 3: a lot of help paying that mortgage off your first

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Speaker 3: thoughts on.

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Speaker 2: On just the I mean, this is on I make

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Speaker 2: light of it.

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Speaker 3: This the Bus family, the Jones family, some of the

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Speaker 3: first families quote unquote of professional sports. The Bus family had.

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Speaker 3: There's been many books written on it. Watch that Winning

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Speaker 3: Time documentary. Through a big reason why the NBA is

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Speaker 3: what it is today. You can attribute to Genie Bussy's

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Speaker 3: daddy and that whole family without question.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a astall.

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Speaker 4: You gotta look back, and I guess appreciate to your point,

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Speaker 4: mark everything that this Bus family did to set up

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Speaker 4: the Lakers in Los Angeles. They've been a staple organization

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00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 4: in the NBA since they came from Minneapolis to Los Angeles.

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00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 2: And the Bus family, Jerry, to his.

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Speaker 4: Credit, knew how to run this team on the court

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Speaker 4: and how to run it like a business off the court.

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Speaker 4: And it's emblematic of the purchase price here in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty five five.

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Speaker 3: And honestly run it like a business off the court.

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Speaker 3: It's probably emblematic of a lot of the complaints as

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Speaker 3: well that we heard from different people. More so now

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00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 3: that this ownership change is happening, and that the Lakers

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Speaker 3: don't have a shooting coach. I would imagine there are

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Speaker 3: some three hundred Division one men's college basketball teams. I

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Speaker 3: bet you two fifty haven't got a shooting coach. I

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Speaker 3: would agree, right, I agree with that.

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Speaker 2: The Lakers don't have it. They didn't have a shooting coach.

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Speaker 3: They have the same persons, the president of the basketball ops,

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Speaker 3: the same person who's the GM. So you can't spend

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Speaker 3: any more than you can spend on players. The Lakers

872
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 3: have never shied on spending on players. It's everywhere else.

873
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 3: It seems as if they shied on spending. Seems like

874
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 3: that is where Mark Walter and the new ownership group

875
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: will likely do. Heard this show on AJ Persinski said

876
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 3: this on The Herd, You're just week the Dodgers the

877
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 3: only team in Major League Baseball to have two planes

878
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 3: of fly on road trips. Wow, right, one for the players,

879
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 3: one for the coaches of support staff. Like that, to

880
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 3: me is one of the things that shows you just

881
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 3: level of moving the needle in a amenities make it

882
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 3: feel better to beer as a pro type of thing,

883
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 3: because ultimately the second apron is the second apron. You

884
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: can't defer seven hundred million dollars to Luca Dunts like,

885
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 3: you can't show how Tony.

886
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 4: Well random anecdote here. The Panthers are just won a

887
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 4: second consecutive Stanley Cup. They are known for the nicest

888
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 4: practice facility and taking care of their players almost better

889
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 4: than anyone in the NHL as of late.

890
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: And look what's come of it. You look at how

891
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. Obviously Jerry takes care of the guys.

892
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 4: It goes without saying so yeah to your point with

893
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 4: the Dodgers, and just out of curiosity looking it up,

894
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 4: I want to toss it back to you. What does

895
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 4: this mean for a city like Los Angeles, major market,

896
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 4: to have ownership across the landscape in two major sports.

897
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 3: It's gonna be interesting because I've been here now for

898
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 3: nine years, and I remember the first five. It was

899
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 3: not rainbows and butterflies in Dodgerland.

900
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 2: Far from it. In fact, Dave Roberts, the same vitriol

901
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: that Dave Roberts had for Mike shild over the weekend

902
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: was the type of vitriol that my neighbors would have

903
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: for Dave Roberts. Fact, since god, y, what did he

904
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 2: do it?

905
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 1: In the post?

906
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 3: He just does whatever he wants to kind of manager

907
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 3: is he and then to watch him manage that them

908
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 3: to a World Series win with you know, starting pictures

909
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 3: that look like they're throwing with the wrong hands, you know,

910
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 3: to be able to do that, it.

911
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 2: Kind of quieted everybody down. But that was a lot

912
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: a lot of negativity in that regard. I think that.

913
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 3: You will have Lakers fans be incredibly happy because there'd

914
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 3: be a lot of quick headlines like, Lakers fans probably

915
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: don't love Rob Polinka. Well guess what him and his

916
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 3: jackets throw on.

917
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: The way out the door. That is you know what

918
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So that'll be that'll be a headline that'll.

919
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 3: Be like, oh, we're gonna win this press conference, right,

920
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 3: We're gonna go get the best guy, right.

921
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I think we'll see a lot of that.

922
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 3: But ultimately, what it boils down to and all simately

923
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 3: what I find to be one of the more fascinating

924
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 3: angles of this this is this It's all gonna come

925
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 3: down to what happens on the court. Sure, winning and

926
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 3: losing is all that's gonna be what matters. That's gonna

927
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 3: be how this is remembered, and it may be remembered

928
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 3: as Mark Walter ruined the Lakers, which I guarantee you

929
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: saving the Dodgers is not enough to make you.

930
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: It does.

931
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 3: You don't come out even if you ruin the Lakers,

932
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 3: you come out way worse. Oh yeah, this is the

933
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 3: second time that a NBA team has been sold with

934
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 3: the Luca Doncis contract pending.

935
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 2: That is something that's that's Sherlock with him, Martin. And

936
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: if you look at the last two teams to be

937
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 2: in these big sale discussions, the Boston Celtics and the

938
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 2: Los Angeles Lakers. Yeah, what did Boston do?

939
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 3: They won the title, paid Jason Tatum all that money,

940
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 3: pay Jalen Brown all that money, and it's like, hold on,

941
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 3: this bill's getting expensive. My insurance has gone up. I

942
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 3: need to sell this car, right And so my fascination

943
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 3: with this is I think most people would have thought

944
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 3: that Luka Doncic was a can't miss. Have to have

945
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 3: ten out of ten, do not pass, go you figure

946
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 3: it out. It just fine, Like I just have to know,

947
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 3: and maybe we'll never know how much the idea that

948
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to pay Luca Dodgers a bowload of

949
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 3: money impacted the sale of this team.

950
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: Right now, I see where you're going with that.

951
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 4: That's interesting now looking at the massaging, and you don't

952
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 4: have the luxury because it's a non salary cap league.

953
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 4: What the Dodgers did, which is conversation for another day,

954
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 4: with the O Tawni deal, which again is unheard of.

955
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 2: Let's pay him later after we ROI.

956
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 4: Everything across the landscape in almost a decade. But looking

957
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 4: at to your point, is it a cell high are you?

958
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 4: Are you insinuating? Maybe this is the ceiling you got

959
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 4: the top tier asset. It's the turnover from the king

960
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 4: to now Luca. This is if you're in the boss trust,

961
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 4: the perfect timing, if you will. Genie's sixty three years old.

962
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 4: All reports that I've seen, she seems to be in

963
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 4: good health. She seems to be, uh, you know, everything

964
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 4: seems to be going well. Right, everything seems to be

965
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 4: going well.

966
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 3: And your general manager just picked up the phone one

967
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 3: night and Nico Harrison was like, would you like an

968
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 3: all time NBA player?

969
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: Sure?

970
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 2: Right, And so I just this.

971
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 3: The Lakers are set up with Luca, and obviously they

972
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 3: have some roster moves to make, but are set up

973
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 3: to be a top half of the Western Conference team

974
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 3: as constructed.

975
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, right right now, right now, right now, we watch.

976
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 3: Uly Dons just walk to the finals with Kyrie as

977
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 3: is running made at thirty something years old, PJ.

978
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 2: Washington and rookies and.

979
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 3: Derek Lively and Daniel Gafford who was forgotten about before

980
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 3: getting traded right like, So, don't tell me that it

981
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 3: can't happen because I watched it.

982
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 2: He watched So why now? Now let me throw something

983
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 2: out you.

984
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 4: I just popped in my Nagget how much of down

985
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 4: I get my freeways right here down the one ten

986
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 4: is Stevie Balmer's top tier taking care of his players

987
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 4: on the clipper side of things, which again are clearly

988
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,919
Speaker 4: the younger brother in town. Maybe could be subconscious, could

989
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 4: be real table talk here as maybe a little extra

990
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 4: pressure for the Lakers here, the Lakers with all the

991
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 4: better everything except not the better facilities, not the I

992
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 4: think that has.

993
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 2: That can't be zero point zero right. I think it

994
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: matters slightly, but also matters.

995
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 3: I'll put it like this matters about as much as

996
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 3: the Brooklyn Nets better facilities than the New York Knicks,

997
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 3: maybe does well.

998
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,479
Speaker 4: I just think these guys, because we're in Toying twenty

999
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 4: five and the extra care you mentioned the extra plane

1000
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 4: for Dodgers road games, those little things. I mean, are

1001
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,479
Speaker 4: we not sitting here with a one Soto sweepstakes talking

1002
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 4: about a sweet and a little extra?

1003
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 2: Here is a reason why he's in Queens and not

1004
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 2: the Bronx.

1005
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 4: I think these kind of things back to that Panthers

1006
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 4: practice facility thing matters. When you hear about how some

1007
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 4: of these other teams no knock but a huge knock

1008
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 4: to the Cincinnati Bengals and how they show up to

1009
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 4: the facility.

1010
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 3: Well, what the you know, hold on just a moment,

1011
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 3: a moment, a moment, if I may, What the Cincinnati

1012
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 3: Bengals are doing this offseason is malpractice. It is absurdity,

1013
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 3: It is ridiculous, and I wish that they were in

1014
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 3: a bigger market because, like I look at sports, I

1015
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 3: know that we had it. We're kind of beholding to

1016
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 3: ratings and we got to talk about who people want

1017
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 3: to talk about.

1018
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 2: I'm in all those meetings too, I get it.

1019
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 3: But just as a NFL enthusiasts, somebody who is like

1020
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 3: a big j master's degree in journalism and wants to

1021
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 3: cover the entirety of the league, the Cincinnati Bengals are

1022
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 3: operating at a level that it reminds me of a

1023
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 3: professional baseball team, like they are played like a team

1024
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 3: that has the hit the salary floor. What they're doing

1025
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 3: is ridiculous, and they and they pay it all the

1026
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 3: offensive guys. And I understand, but Trey Henderson is the

1027
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 3: type of guy he's supposed to pay. And if you

1028
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 3: don't want to pay him, I understand it, But to

1029
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 3: damn sure, pay the guy your draft replace him, honestly,

1030
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 3: like you wonder why. And you know what's gonna piss

1031
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 3: me off is in Week three when the team's one

1032
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 3: and two and Burrow has thrown for fourteen touchdowns and

1033
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 3: two interceptions or damn near one thousand yards in three games,

1034
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 3: They're gonna be like, what's wrong with your team?

1035
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,479
Speaker 2: What's all you guys? As to another slow start?

1036
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 3: And he's gonna sit there and he can't say because

1037
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 3: our management is absolutely.

1038
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 2: Horrible and the cafeteria food is forgive anyway.

1039
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 4: I think it's perfect, though, that this goes to Mark Walter,

1040
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 4: because it just the shoe fits perfectly. This is a

1041
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 4: historic top tier NBA organization now going to be top

1042
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 4: tier across the board. Off the court. To me, that

1043
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 4: is a trickle down effect. A happy off the court

1044
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 4: group running a three sixty five organization, a guy like

1045
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 4: JJ Reddick. This is only going to add momentum, in

1046
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 4: my humble opinion, to everything the Lakers are trying to

1047
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 4: do with culture setting.

1048
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it absolutely has a level of

1049
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 2: momentum there.

1050
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 3: I think that if you were looking at this from

1051
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 3: anybody but the sports media landscape, that this is a

1052
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 3: good thing.

1053
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: I personally like the idea. I sometimes.

1054
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 3: I don't want to phrase it. Sometimes you got to

1055
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 3: have a floor to have a ceiling. So like sometimes

1056
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 3: the Woody Johnson's and the Jerry Jones is, you know,

1057
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 3: they they kind of help the discussion along the way,

1058
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 3: so you can have different conversations about the Clark Hunts

1059
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 3: and the you know what saying to the other you

1060
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 3: got to have a floor to have a ceiling.

1061
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 4: Well, you're your floor at six foot two in the

1062
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 4: six foot clubs a lot different than my ceiling over

1063
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 4: here at five to ten with the hair.

1064
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 2: But I will say this, I'll say this is I

1065
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 2: do not think that this immediately.

1066
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 3: Turns into championships and the like, but I do think

1067
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 3: that this improves you in the margins in a way

1068
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 3: that like an Austin Reeves gets better year every year.

1069
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 3: I don't think that he's gotten marketably better since he's

1070
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 3: gotten into the endb like so so much better. Right,

1071
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 3: Like you see some teams like guys like the Pacers,

1072
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 3: Andrew Nesmith, Aaron Neesmith. Rather when he was in Boston

1073
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 3: it looked like he couldn't play basketball at all. Now

1074
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 3: I'm watching this guy make big time moments in the postseason. Right,

1075
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 3: You're looking at Indiana in this postseason. Ben Shephard got

1076
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 3: minutes last playoffs. He's having big minutes this year guarding

1077
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 3: the MVP down the stretch. It's at certain points of time.

1078
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 3: And Mattherin had a thirty twenty five point game in

1079
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 3: this season.

1080
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 2: Right. You look at a guy to me, his corollarys

1081
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 2: some little like.

1082
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 3: Jonathan Minga, right, but Bett Matherin right spot right setting

1083
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 3: ability to flourish if he's struggling to pull him out

1084
00:53:58,840 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 3: of there.

1085
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: Right, you know what I'm say.

1086
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 3: So it's like I think that when you look at

1087
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 3: the types of things like I think player developed me

1088
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 3: could be a big thing. I probably you're probably not

1089
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 3: trading for Russell Westbrook. If you're this Lakers, so like

1090
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 3: maybe you just win on the margins just because of that.

1091
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 2: But and marn just put a button on here.

1092
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 4: I'm looking at US cities owned by multiple owner teams

1093
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 4: old my multiple owner Terry Pagoula with the Bills and

1094
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 4: the Sabers do it.

1095
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 2: I bet, I guess. And you already know who New Orleans.

1096
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 4: You already know Benson, the Pelicans and Fans and sat

1097
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 4: and then Arthur Blanks got the Falcons and the Atlanta

1098
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 4: United in MLS and then it's Kronky with the Nuggets,

1099
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 4: the Avs and the Rapids. And that's the end of

1100
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 4: the list in christs and none of those correct me

1101
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 4: if I'm wrong with my stigmatism.

1102
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 2: Are major markets? No offense in New Orleans because it's

1103
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 2: a great place. It is great place, best place in America.

1104
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 2: Not a major market. So we're talking about rare air here.

1105
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 4: You cannot be the Lakers with a worst practice facility,

1106
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 4: locker room court, at et cetera. Then you're a younger

1107
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 4: brother the Clippers. I think you gotta thank Balmer on

1108
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 4: some subconscious level for this.

1109
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 3: I will say this, I know Steve Balmer if he

1110
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 3: had some hair. He'd be running his fingers through it

1111
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 3: right now.

1112
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: What was it? I had it right here.

1113
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 3: Steve Balmer bought into the Los Angeles Clippers for two

1114
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 3: billion dollars.

1115
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 2: The Lakers just sold for ten. He like, the Lakers

1116
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 2: just sold for ten I have the other team in

1117
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 2: LA and I bought it for a fourth of the price,

1118
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: fifth of the price. Signed me up, Sign me up,

1119
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 2: Sign me on.

1120
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Speaker 3: I speaking of buying stuff, you can't find this stuff

1121
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 3: anywhere anywhere out there. It's sold so much of this

1122
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 3: the IRS came to this team to check on.

1123
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 2: If it was actually real.

1124
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 3: It's like actually got audited to make sure the receipts

1125
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Speaker 3: were legit.

1126
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Speaker 2: The biggest thing going in sports. We'll get to it

1127
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 2: in just a minute. Martin Weis's Alex Monico on a

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Saturday.

1129
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: Dore listening to Fox Sports Radio.

1130
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 3: Martin Wisse, Alex Monico. We're talking about more than nothing

1131
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 3: here on Fox Sports Radio. Hit us up on Twitter

1132
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 3: if you'd like to join the conversation. I'm at Martin

1133
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 3: Weis and Alex is at Alex Underscore Monico. See we

1134
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 3: just had a tweet, oh from Brendan Brody. I see

1135
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 3: now why Chador slipped in the draft. He fell faster

1136
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 3: than what he was going on the road. I think

1137
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 3: not so proud. Papa Dion will lecture him for his

1138
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 3: lack of maturity. Dianna's on him.

1139
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 2: I'd like to think so. I'd like to think so.

1140
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 3: So we talked about Shador, We talked about the Dodgers,

1141
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 3: the Lakers, Los Angeles, Luca Dunchs, Lebron.

1142
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 2: Did you already talk about the biggest star in sports?

1143
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 3: I'm ready, all right, So here's the de Caitlin Clark

1144
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 3: and I had a question today. Earlier this week, I

1145
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 3: said that Friday was a huge day for the w NBA.

1146
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 3: The reason being is that Caitlyn Clark, I believe it

1147
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 3: was me, double check it real quick. It was Thursday night.

1148
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 3: Thursday night in Golden State was three for fourteen and

1149
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,439
Speaker 3: zero for seven from the floor from three wow one

1150
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 3: of her.

1151
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah you know.

1152
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 3: I still finished with eleven, nine and seven, but a

1153
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 3: bad game. And I said, the true mark of super startle,

1154
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 3: the true mark that you have cut through the noise,

1155
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 3: is when no matter what you do, you are news.

1156
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 3: No matter what happened, not your news right not you

1157
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 3: got you got an altercation. Not you had forty, not

1158
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 3: you seven? Like all of it becomes a topic of conversation,

1159
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:52,479
Speaker 3: and Friday on the national shows there was a little

1160
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 3: bit of a mention, a little bit.

1161
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 2: Of a hero. On Saturday, we're talking a little bit

1162
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 2: about it as well. Yeah, guys, this is here to stay.

1163
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 3: And I'm not pointing that out to pick at her pop. Legitimately,

1164
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 3: Tyre's Halliburton, in my eyes, is not a superstar because

1165
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 3: he can go out in the postseason and have multiple

1166
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 3: single digit scoring games and not necessarily get crushed for it.

1167
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 3: I know the ESPN's does a lot of crazy stuff,

1168
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 3: but I'm talking about that at large. Turn the channel

1169
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 3: if you think they're doing too much on Halliburton, and

1170
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 3: you'll see a lot of people saying, this is just

1171
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 3: the way he plays.

1172
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: Well.

1173
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 3: If you dominate the game with fifteen points scored, I

1174
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 3: need tennis, I need I need you to dominate the game.

1175
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 2: I need to see it and feel it.

1176
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 3: Or don't be called a superstar, or don't be called

1177
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 3: a superstar. I think it's a very good all star,

1178
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 3: high level. He didn't blink twice, he didn't play in

1179
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 3: the Olympic.

1180
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: Appreciate you saying that right, So that's where I'm at

1181
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 2: with it. I think he's probably the second best player

1182
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 2: on the team behind Tiako. I think Shaka's work consistently.

1183
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 3: I'm right there with you, and I think that when

1184
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 3: you see superstar moments out of him, big time shots,

1185
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 3: all of that, people want to go ahead and go

1186
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 3: that far.

1187
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark is a superstar.

1188
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 3: Move ratings this to me having a bad game, going

1189
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 3: out there getting thumb and it being a topic a

1190
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 3: discussion that to me is honestly a high formal respect.

1191
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 4: Undoubtedly, Martin and obviously the W is cooking right now.

1192
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 4: I watch a W a lot more than just Caitlin Clark.

1193
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 4: It's a very competitive night in, night out, high effort

1194
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 4: regular season, and you and I be an NBA regular

1195
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 4: season guys.

1196
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: It's kind of hard to sit.

1197
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 4: Here and be like, Wow, the NBA could be a

1198
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 4: lot more compelling in the regular season when we're watching

1199
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 4: this kind of effort. To your point, though she's superstar,

1200
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 4: all eyes on her. Obviously we're bringing her up for

1201
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 4: a number of reasons. But again, here we are in

1202
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 4: the sophomore season and her on campus. She's still getting

1203
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 4: some senior junior. You know I'm gonna see you at

1204
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 4: your locker, whether you invited me or not.

1205
00:59:58,680 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 2: Who's the new kid?

1206
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 4: To me, again, it's from a ratings perspective.

1207
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: We're talking about it, we're watching it.

1208
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 4: I'm curious your basketball thoughts though, and maybe making some

1209
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 4: examples of what we're seeing so especially in that Connecticut

1210
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 4: Sun game.

1211
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 3: So the Sun game so to me though you've all

1212
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 3: seen it by now, but to me, and I don't

1213
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 3: want to desparese you if this is your opinion, but

1214
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 3: the idea that we have to like protect Caitlin Clark

1215
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 3: because she's the face of the league and the idea that, like, like,

1216
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 3: I think that is honestly like offensive.

1217
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 2: And I don't think that you would be saying it

1218
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,439
Speaker 2: if this was a male league. I don't think people

1219
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 2: would say it.

1220
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 3: I don't think there would be the same attitude of

1221
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 3: you have to protect this quote unquote cash cow that

1222
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 3: now gives you like some of that commentary to me

1223
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 3: is veiled in like you weren't serious before and you're

1224
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 3: serious now. And I have been watching the WNBA since

1225
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 3: it was the first thing back since Coke in the

1226
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 3: bubble twenty twenty that was my first year watching the WNBI,

1227
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 3: watched a ton of it.

1228
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 2: There's twelve teams. It's very easy to get into it.

1229
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 2: Know the players, know the storylines because again, there's only

1230
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty four dollar players in the league

1231
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 2: at any given moment in.

1232
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 4: Time, right, you watch a lot of Las Vegas aces

1233
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 4: ws right exactly.

1234
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 2: So in order for this to.

1235
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 3: Work the way they wanted to, you can't. It has

1236
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 3: to be a Sophie Cunningham. It has to be a

1237
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 3: Sidney Colson or a Leah Boston and one of her teammates.

1238
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 2: This has to be regulated on the court. I do

1239
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 2: like that if you give her a pass, if you

1240
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 2: give her the slightest I'm not saying be unfair, but

1241
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 2: if you give her the slightest feeling of impropriety. On

1242
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,919
Speaker 2: the other way, all of these feelings that are start

1243
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 2: by people all the way that people think, it'll all

1244
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 2: be validated and it will take away from her excellence

1245
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 2: at basketball.

1246
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 4: Now, if she wasn't in her second year and she's

1247
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 4: been a star years on end, she's a vet and

1248
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 4: this is happening, do you change your perspective at all?

1249
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 4: Just just playing food for thought with obviously stars, veterans

1250
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 4: take a sport, any sport, you know, maybe get a

1251
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 4: little bit of a whistle more than others. Maybe get

1252
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 4: a little bit of a Tom Brady and a little passer,

1253
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 4: you know, rough in the passer when another quarterback would

1254
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 4: it among other examples. But is this a still She's

1255
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 4: a sophomore on campus. This should be handled on the court,

1256
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 4: you're saying by her teammates to squash any kind of

1257
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 4: anything like any other sport essentially in this moment, would

1258
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 4: handle it.

1259
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 3: Right, And and the WNBA to paint the picture a

1260
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 3: little bit because I think if you are just dropping

1261
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 3: in to watch Caitlin Clark, I don't disparage you for that,

1262
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 3: but I think you may not have a concept of

1263
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 3: the league in general if you're just watching Kaitlin Clark

1264
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 3: and this is your first or second or third time watching.

1265
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 2: Because if it was your fourth, fifth, or sixth time watching,

1266
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 2: you realize they all play the same teams over and

1267
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 2: over and over it because there's only twelve of them. Now,

1268
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 2: think about Title nine and college basketball.

1269
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 3: That means every Division one men's basketball team has the

1270
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 3: Division one women's basketball team. And obviously, just look at

1271
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 3: the scores of the Division one women's basketball tournament. The

1272
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 3: disparity in talent is large, right though. You will see

1273
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 3: in the first round, second round, third round, the higher

1274
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 3: seeds you know, I mean taking the lower seeds out

1275
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 3: behind the woodshed annihilation.

1276
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 2: But at the top it is so concentrated. You have

1277
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 2: the same amount of pool. The NBA, you have about

1278
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 2: two hundred more players eligible around the world, where the

1279
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 2: WNBA you don't. Next year, That's why you see all

1280
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 2: these rookies get from their WNBA teams. Are you seeing

1281
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 2: this offseason?

1282
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 3: You'll see NBA WNBA veterans who will not have a

1283
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 3: place to play in America because there's so few spots.

1284
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 3: So the competition to your point, yeah, they're fighting for

1285
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 3: lunch every day, like I don't know, I mean that metaphorically,

1286
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 3: like fighting for their next one, like they because they

1287
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 3: could get cut at any moment in time. There's are

1288
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 3: just so few people that are not meaning actual lunch

1289
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 3: in the facility. But they're fighting all the time. And

1290
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 3: there's no dunking in this league. The verticality is not there.

1291
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 3: It's very physical.

1292
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 2: It's a very physical league.

1293
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 4: You watch any matchup I was watching Plumb obviously now

1294
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 4: on the sparks.

1295
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 2: There are tone setters on every club.

1296
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 4: Now let me ask you this, would you from a

1297
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 4: basketball perspective, Let's say your coach. Let me put you

1298
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 4: in a coaching seat here with the fever that kind

1299
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 4: of thing happens. Do you do you want Caitlin as

1300
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 4: much as her her teammates in any regard to maybe.

1301
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 2: No step balking and be like, yo, don't if imp

1302
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 2: poking me in the off.

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Speaker 3: If I'm Stephanie White, the first thing I'm doing, I'll

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Speaker 3: tell Kate and the Clark keep your head on straight.

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Speaker 3: She she gives a lot that she gets. I think

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Speaker 3: a lot of some of the stuff happens is like that.

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Speaker 3: Jacy Shelter. I don't think she post her on the

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Speaker 3: I on purpose. Uh, Marina, maybe you definitely hit her

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Speaker 3: on purpose, but there was a shove before that, right

1310
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Speaker 3: like you, you bring in a lot of this on

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Speaker 3: your own. I also would probably have the most technical

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Speaker 3: fouls in the WBA. I'm getting thrown out of games.

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Speaker 3: I'm losing my mind on the official if you're watching it,

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Speaker 3: if I'm watching that, I'm right there with I got

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Speaker 3: that's to me, that is her job.

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Speaker 2: That's her job, and right now.

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01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 3: Steve de Seger's job is to update us on everything

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Speaker 3: going on in the world of sports.

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Speaker 2: Steve, you're up.

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Speaker 7: You mentioned so few teams in the WNBA. Remember the

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01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 7: NHL used to have literally only six teams in the

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Speaker 7: league through nineteen sixty seven until the expansion, which meant

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Speaker 7: you had a seventy game regular season and you're playing

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Speaker 7: the other teams fourteen times each.

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Speaker 3: A lot of familiarity between everybody involved.

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Speaker 7: Jing Clippers Warriors fourteen times a year, right, okay, Saturday

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Speaker 7: and then the what they had playoffs? I mean, didn't

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Speaker 7: we just right play each other fourteen times each?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 7: So, WNBA, by the way, just two games on the

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Speaker 7: Saturday schedule, and Minnesota at eleven and one is only

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Speaker 7: leading LA fifty eight to fifty six with eight minutes

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Speaker 7: to go. Phoenix at eleven and four now one at

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Speaker 7: Chicago easily today one oh seven eighty six Chicago's three

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Speaker 7: and nine. Angel Res of Chicago nine points, two rebounds.

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Speaker 7: She was one of one shooting from the floor in

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Speaker 7: twenty one minutes. NBA Finals Game seven is Sunday, Indiana

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Speaker 7: at Oklahoma City. This postseason, the Pacers on the road

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01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 7: are seven and four, the Thunder at Home ten and two.

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Speaker 7: The NBA Draft starts on Wednesday. The College World Series

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Speaker 7: Finals started tonight. LSU, a top ten team, is still

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Speaker 7: leading one nothing at the end of eight against Coastal Carolina,

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Speaker 7: which has won twenty six games in a row.

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Speaker 2: This is a best of.

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Speaker 7: Three finals series to Major League Baseball on Fox TV

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Speaker 7: for much of the country. It's bottom of the sixth

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Speaker 7: inning at Philadelphia. The Mets, who've lost seven in a row,

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Speaker 7: are leading the Fills seven to four. In fact, five

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Speaker 7: solo home runs from New York and Francisco Lindor with

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Speaker 7: now a two run double to extend the lead. Two

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Speaker 7: homers from Juan Soto yes sixteen this year. Mets win

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Speaker 7: would tie him with the Phillies for first place in

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Speaker 7: the NL East. Kansas City has won four straight, but

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Speaker 7: it's the Padres five to one over the Royals now

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Speaker 7: in the top of the eighth Fernando Tatis Junior with

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Speaker 7: a three run homer. The Rockies have a record of

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Speaker 7: seventeen and fifty nine, but they're out to a lead

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Speaker 7: against Arizona tow to one in the top of the second.

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Speaker 7: Road wins for Atlanta and Texas home wins for Toronto

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Speaker 7: and San Francisco. With edge Boston three to two, Rafael

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Speaker 7: Devers exit Boston hit a two run homer. The Cubs

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01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 7: beat Seattle ten to seven, but the Mariners Cal Raley

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Speaker 7: walted another one thirtieth homer of the first.

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Speaker 2: Half of the season.

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Speaker 7: Saint Louis won its fifth straight game and eleven inning

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Speaker 7: win over Cincinnati six to five. Nolan Aronato with the

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Speaker 7: tying solo homer. Bottom of the ninth victories from Milwaukee,

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Speaker 7: Tampa Bay and the Yankees, who shout out Baltimore nine

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Speaker 7: to nothing to win the Clark Schmid, who threw seven

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Speaker 7: no hit innings one hundred and three pitches. He did

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Speaker 7: walk to As for the other sports news, Tommy Fleetwood

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01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 7: leads the Travelers by three strokes, Jason Day is five back,

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01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 7: and UFC fighter John Jones retired. He went sixteen to

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Speaker 7: zero in title bouts.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, thanks Steve Martin Wis' Alex Monico coming

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Speaker 3: to you live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Alex,

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01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 3: you we're about the same age, so you probably remember

1378
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 3: when Drake first started. Mary Mack you were in diapers

1379
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,799
Speaker 3: at this time, but Drake had a song called Houston,

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01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 3: Landa Vegas, and it sounds like the trade destinations for

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Speaker 3: Kevin Durrect.

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Speaker 2: Ha haa.

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01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 3: Evera's three different cities every time we talked about three

1384
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 3: differenties every time we talks. Fag Minnesota, the San Antonio

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01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,679
Speaker 3: all in one of the Texas teams, maybe the Knicks.

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01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 2: So don't Nicks, I'll have a coach. I don't know,

1387
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 2: but here's the thing, what the Knicks are doing?

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Speaker 3: And I would I would honestly send, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: Kevin Durant, where's he going? But I said, if I

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Speaker 3: was any of these guys, Billy Donovan, imy U Doka,

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Speaker 3: I'm sending the Knicks the biggest out of blowing raise

1392
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 3: whatever cause, if I appreciate you floating my names when

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01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 3: you get that contract extension that I may Junoka just

1394
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 3: got one of the highest paid coaches in the NBA

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01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 3: and a team that was the two.

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Speaker 2: Seed in the Western Conference last year.

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Speaker 3: That I think, universally nobody expected to do anything in

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01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 3: the postseason.

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Speaker 4: Wayhead of way, head of schedule for their program. He

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Speaker 4: came in e May, to his credit, obviously by way

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01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 4: of Boston and inherited a young team. I don't say

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01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,719
Speaker 4: they were culture lists, but they didn't really have much direction.

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01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 2: He put a culture in.

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01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 4: They are a bona fide top five defense for years

1405
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:09,839
Speaker 4: to come with so much upside, and now you almost

1406
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 4: have a good problem.

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01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 2: How do we with all of these assets scale up?

1408
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 4: Do we stay patient? Like okay, see do we go

1409
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 4: out and get it? You know who which we'll be

1410
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 4: talking about in a second.

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01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 3: So obviously it's to Kevin Durant is the question. If

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01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 3: I'm Houston, I'm making a move because I see the

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01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 3: team that I see today needs Jalen Green to be

1414
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 3: a dominant or at least high above average wing score.

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01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 2: I don't think that that is going to happen.

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01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 4: Do you think at his ripe age of twenty three

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01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 4: by way the G League right that his inconsistency in

1418
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 4: that Warrior series is that something you see for years plural?

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01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,600
Speaker 3: Because I tell you like this, I've seen him be

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01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 3: consistent once and it was the end of last season,

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01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 3: Like the last few months of last season where the

1422
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 3: weird things happen in the NBA, that's when Jalen Green

1423
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,759
Speaker 3: I think was his most consistent. But watching that postseason series,

1424
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 3: my thought was, man, if you just swapped Devin.

1425
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,480
Speaker 2: Booker for Jalen Green, he's the winning championship.

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Speaker 4: They are such a complete two way team without that bone,

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01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 4: without that, without question, Star, I can almost co sign

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01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 4: that with you. But we're also talking about if it's

1429
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 4: just worth talking out a twenty one point per game

1430
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 4: shooting guard at twenty three being traded for a guy

1431
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 4: and we know he's on the golf course on the

1432
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 4: back nine. It's is he on hole fifteen sixteen or

1433
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,719
Speaker 4: is he on more like seventeen? Because that is worth

1434
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 4: talking out when you are staring at the other camp

1435
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 4: to some degree of the model that they could follow,

1436
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 4: which is okay see top five d and building out

1437
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 4: that way.

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01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 2: So I say, though, I just don't see.

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01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 3: The reason why okay see works is because they have

1440
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 3: the MVP like they have Who is the player in

1441
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 3: Houston that is going to be the guy who will

1442
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 3: be threatening to win an MVP.

1443
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 2: It's a great thought.

1444
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:22,600
Speaker 4: What I'm concerned with that I throw back to you,

1445
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 4: is Durant that guy this upcoming season? Are they still

1446
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 4: have that question to answer even after this trade?

1447
01:12:30,479 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 3: I thought, well, they will still have that question to answer.

1448
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 3: But I think Kevin Durant helps them.

1449
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 2: I don't love it.

1450
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 3: I honestly if I am the Phoenix Suns, and I

1451
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 3: know that this isn't what the owner said he wanted

1452
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 3: to do. However, somebody needs to get into his ear

1453
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 3: and let him know that he is doing this very

1454
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 3: very badly. Right now, someone's kind of telling me the

1455
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 3: answer to your the solution to your problems is not

1456
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 3: trading Kevin Durant. It is trading both Kevin Durant and

1457
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 3: Devin Booker. I understand that Devin Booker wants to be

1458
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 3: a son for life. That's awesome, We'll see you back

1459
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:07,679
Speaker 3: at your Jersey retirement. I understand that Matt Ispia doesn't

1460
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 3: want to run his fans out of the building. Guess what,

1461
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,679
Speaker 3: they're already gone. Okay, I understand all of those things.

1462
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 3: You had your run at it, You went to the finals.

1463
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 2: And you could do like.

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01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 3: It'd be one thing if you were in the East,

1465
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 3: because that was was if Milwaukee and Phoenix was in

1466
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 3: that finals.

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01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 2: Right now, Yannis is probably gonna be staying back in Milwaukee. Well,

1468
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:31,200
Speaker 2: guess what, East is wide open, wide open. The West

1469
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 2: no way like the West. There's no way.

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01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 3: The way like the West is clogged up up top,

1471
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 3: so that'd be my thing. I'm running it back with one.

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01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 3: I get the bringing Giannis back. If I'm Phoenix, I

1473
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 3: don't have picks. I don't have anything. I have nothing.

1474
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 3: I have Devin Booker and that shit. I got a

1475
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 3: ferrari outside of my uh soup kitchen. I'm selling a

1476
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 3: ferrari with.

1477
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 4: A side dish of the worst contract in the end.

1478
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 4: No offense to Bradley Beal.

1479
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 2: I mean no offense to Bradley Beal. That's a legendary.

1480
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 2: He's a legend. At Chase Bake talk to him nice.

1481
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 2: I'm saying, they know his name.

1482
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 3: When he pulls up in the driveway and they say,

1483
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 3: mister Beale, good to see you again. He's like, as

1484
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 3: want to make sure that money was still guaranteed along

1485
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 3: with my no trade clause.

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01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:29,640
Speaker 4: Do you think this e MA coaching extension? If you

1487
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 4: are in the Rockets upper management, do you stay patient?

1488
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 4: Because food for thought, Martin, It's sort of like that

1489
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 4: Lakers team that kept running into Denver a couple of

1490
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 4: years in a row. In the first round they couldn't

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01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,560
Speaker 4: get out. I knew the wrong team was favored in

1492
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 4: that first round because it was also a young team

1493
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 4: versus a bonus, a top seen everything on the market,

1494
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 4: Warriors team with grown men, that a championships plural, and

1495
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 4: I thought you should have had no shot.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you this, if, uh, if the Thompson kid,

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01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:04,679
Speaker 3: if I think the Thompson kid is like that, Yeah,

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01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 3: I'm going to get Kevin Durray.

1499
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 2: Now if I was gonna move to make a second move.

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01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 3: No, if I think that if he can shoot, if

1501
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 3: Thompson can start to shoot, that might be the best

1502
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 3: two players in the NBA. You picked whichever Thompson both

1503
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 3: of them, because the great defenders. That could be your

1504
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 3: wing guy, that can be the difference maker and you

1505
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 3: could make you feel good like if he can develop

1506
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 3: into that, like into that type of guy, then I

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01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 3: would see putting Kevin Durant as a secondary option off

1508
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 3: of him. He still got two good ball handlers. But

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01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 3: Fred's got the ring coming up. Next, we'll play a

1510
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 3: little game. We's been a while since we've done this.

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01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 3: Play a game of.

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Speaker 2: Who you Got?

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,719
Speaker 3: Comes to your life from the Fox Sports or Radio studios.

1515
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 3: You can hit us up with your two cents on Twitter.

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Speaker 3: I'm at Martin Weiss, Alex Monico joining me today he's

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01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 3: at alex Underscore Monico.

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01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 2: But now it's time for Lee. I believe this. This

1519
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 2: might be the first time you ever produced a show

1520
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 2: of mine.

1521
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 8: No, No, I've had to have worked with you before, right,

1522
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 8: I mean we definitely know each other, not the first

1523
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 8: time we've met.

1524
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 3: No, definitely not that No, but I'll try. It's definitely

1525
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 3: the first time in the Merrymack era. And who you

1526
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 3: got was born in the Merrymack era.

1527
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 2: So lead to that challenge is yours?

1528
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 6: Mary.

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01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 8: Let's get it started, all right, all right, I'm gonna

1530
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 8: take my first shot at this. I'm gonna try and

1531
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 8: stump you on this one. You guys start start vague.

1532
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 8: How about this multi multi sport athlete. As a kid,

1533
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 8: he played baseball, basketball. He's an all star basketball player,

1534
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 8: also played wide receiver and linebacker in high school.

1535
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 3: Once you said the linebacker, it took Alan Irison out

1536
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 3: of its format. But that was my guest, because Alan

1537
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 3: Irison did all.

1538
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 2: Of that linebacker but in high school though.

1539
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 3: And the way he said he played linebacker in high

1540
01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 3: school gives me the implication that he's.

1541
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 2: A basketball player or a baseball player. I'm already hearing

1542
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 2: the the who wants to be a millionaire? Music right,

1543
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 2: a phone, a friend, and that friend is you do

1544
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 2: you have no guests so far? Are keep going?

1545
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 8: I'll keep going. He's the son of a pe teacher.

1546
01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 8: His older sister played volleyball at the University of Rhode Island,

1547
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 8: and his grandfather was a Marlboro Man actor.

1548
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 2: Oh this is Oh no, I knew this was the

1549
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 2: Marlborough Man. Do not get this his name and do

1550
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 2: not get this name is.

1551
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 6: Is?

1552
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 2: His name could also be Is it short for Richard? Yeah? Okay,

1553
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 2: so get this on.

1554
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 3: The second name is Dick Hamler and his grandson is

1555
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 3: Sammy Bardell.

1556
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 2: I knew that you were literally totally you're underestimating mine.

1557
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 2: He's going to get it right. That's remarkable.

1558
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 8: I knew you're I was gonna hold that one off too,

1559
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 8: because I coulda you weren't gonna get it off for

1560
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 8: number three or four either.

1561
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 2: Especially I was already going the wrong way. I said

1562
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 2: he would playing a linebacker. Well, hey, you know what,

1563
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 2: this should have been signed early in sand on his career.

1564
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 2: He was playing linebacker in high school and you're drafting

1565
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 2: him as a quarterback.

1566
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,719
Speaker 4: All those tackles he made after interceptions on the Jets.

1567
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:08,719
Speaker 4: I guess it checks out.

1568
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 2: Reading up on him.

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01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 8: He was actually recruited to USC to be a linebacker

1570
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 8: as well quarterback. They wanted him to play, he declined

1571
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 8: to play. That's freshman year, go ahead, No I was.

1572
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:20,680
Speaker 8: I mean I had a lot of fun facts about him.

1573
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 8: I mean, first freshman ever to win the Archie Griffin

1574
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 8: Award packed twelve Offensive Rookie of the Year. I don't

1575
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 8: think you guys would have gotten it off of that

1576
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 8: because you could have still thought, maybe, yeah, been a

1577
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 8: linebacker or a wide receiver at that point.

1578
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 3: Fascinating man. Fascinating that Sam Donald. Yeah, Sam Donald. I

1579
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 3: looked that up the other because it's like when he said,

1580
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 3: I don't know how I stumbled across it one day

1581
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 3: down a rabbit hole.

1582
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 2: How about Tom Brady saying Sam Donald, Nope for the Raiders.

1583
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 2: That was the whole Yeah, that's what the build. How

1584
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 2: about that. I'm ready to endorse Martin on Sports Jeopardy. Listen,

1585
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 2: I've been trying to get on there for years. It'll change.

1586
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 2: I can't wait for the next one. How about Uh,

1587
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 2: the other thing was Sam Donald and I find kind

1588
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 2: of interesting.

1589
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 3: Mike McDonald McDonald too many, definitely many, Mike Max and Eleague.

1590
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 3: Mike McDonald in Seattle over there has seemed to have

1591
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 3: to defend Sam Donald a lot for OTAs.

1592
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would agree with that. Interesting, A lot

1593
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 2: of defense of Sammy was the ultimate by high right right.

1594
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:25,560
Speaker 4: I mean, that was the opposite, the Costanza opposite of

1595
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 4: shopping technically for quarterbacks.

1596
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 2: You want to so and on the flip the guy who.

1597
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 3: If I'm a Seahawks fan today, I'm sitting there like, man,

1598
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 3: all right, cool? We got Sam Donald, eh, and then

1599
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 3: Tom Brady said he didn't want Sam Donald. So that's

1600
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:48,600
Speaker 3: kind of like a double eh. She doesn't want to

1601
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 3: watch it eye. You know, my dad always said to

1602
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 3: the Dady advice. And then not only that, we got

1603
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,679
Speaker 3: the quarterback that Gino Will used to be my quarterback

1604
01:19:57,840 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 3: and now Tom got him. So if Gino goes in

1605
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 3: the Vegas and balls out, ops it up in the Pacific,

1606
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 3: Dorf West crying in my own little cloud above my

1607
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 3: head with.

1608
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 4: The rain cue the music, it would be too fitting

1609
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 4: for a defensive coach to botch the quarterback position and

1610
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 4: go backwards.

1611
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 3: I mean, and Jalen Miller wrote the third round pick.

1612
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 3: There the teams he talking about him is interesting things

1613
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 3: going on for Slinging Sammy Donald. But the NBA Finals

1614
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 3: Game seven tomorrow, what will the fallout be? What will

1615
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 3: the conversation be?

1616
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 2: Monday? We preview it next.

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1618
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:39,120
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1619
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:43,320
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1620
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:44,080
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1621
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 3: That's my broadcasting live from Fox Sports Radio Studios. It's

1622
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 3: Martin Wise and Alex Monaco. Two day are one day,

1623
01:20:56,360 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 3: one day before the greatest two words in sports Game seven,

1624
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 3: Rick Carlisle And.

1625
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 2: Who's that over there for Inda? Okay, see who's that guy?

1626
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 2: The pe teacher that came up from the G League,

1627
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 2: Mark Dagnault and the Fucky Bunch. No disrespect to the

1628
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 2: former NBA Coach of the Year, but you know, let's

1629
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:16,519
Speaker 2: be honest. Did you know his name? All right?

1630
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 6: Now?

1631
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 2: I ask your wife? Does she know his name?

1632
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 3: That's my point, all right, Shake Gildes, Alexander, Tyrese Halliburton,

1633
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 3: and like we we're all familiar with them now. No

1634
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:28,640
Speaker 3: matter how this this series started out for you, we

1635
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 3: have now Game seven and we are here. We both

1636
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 3: think that the Pacers are gonna go ahead and take

1637
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 3: this one on the road. That means, if that is true,

1638
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 3: let's start up the other way. If Oklahoma CHETI were

1639
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:47,839
Speaker 3: to win this title, what do you think the Thunder

1640
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 3: would do going forward? What do you think the Pacers

1641
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 3: doing going for what's the impact that would have on

1642
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 3: the NBA?

1643
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 2: Well, if you want to start with a Thunder winning first.

1644
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, because we both think the Pacers are gonna win,

1645
01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:58,959
Speaker 3: so we'll be stronger on that afterwards.

1646
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe we'd have to double check here on

1647
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 4: particular contracts up.

1648
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 2: I know SGA's do here for his sojas do he'll

1649
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 2: get paid.

1650
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,560
Speaker 3: Jaylen Williams and chet Holmgreen have on year three, so

1651
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 3: they'll be up for rookie extensions next at some point

1652
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 3: in the next sixteen months.

1653
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, it would be retaining I guess your core as

1654
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 4: quickly and efficiently as you could if you're on the

1655
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:28,719
Speaker 4: ok side, Okay Sea side, and you win. What's fascinating

1656
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 4: is says just seemingly impressed. He land never want to

1657
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 4: run out of draft picks. So you still have so

1658
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 4: much on their menu.

1659
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 2: That's actually part of the problem for them they have

1660
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 2: too many cars.

1661
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 3: They don't have enough garage spaces, right, They literally don't

1662
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 3: have enough roster spots for all the people that they have.

1663
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 2: So my question is kind of like this, after watching

1664
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 2: his finals run, how do I feel about you at home? Gird?

1665
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 2: How do I is that a guy? If you had

1666
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 2: asked me before the start of the playoffs, you'd think, Oh,

1667
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 2: it's getting a good at this Max broken this hit

1668
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 2: one year, shooting twelve percent from three in the finals.

1669
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:09,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, shown to me, when he's up against somebody who

1670
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 3: is both his height and a bigger size, that he

1671
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:17,680
Speaker 3: can be marginalized. Makes you wonder if they win this thing,

1672
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 3: he's staying more than likely just because it's not that's

1673
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 3: not not what teams do.

1674
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:27,719
Speaker 4: But if you lose, it interesting, very interesting at some point.

1675
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 4: I mean, geez, look at the test of time, Martin.

1676
01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 4: You win a ring, there's there's real turnover because it's

1677
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 4: when everyone cashes in on the team and goes elsewhere.

1678
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 4: If they can't or they double down, they stay where

1679
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 4: they are. There's just no way that this organization can

1680
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 4: properly pay the top guys after coming in and doing

1681
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:52,640
Speaker 4: what they did with Hartenstein and Caruster correct me if

1682
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 4: I'm wrong here.

1683
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 3: The longest short of it is, Guy, that team, that

1684
01:23:57,800 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 3: roster will look a lot differently in the next sixteen

1685
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 3: month because you're gonna have to either cut the checks

1686
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 3: for the rookies or move off of those older veterans.

1687
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 3: And I think to the point, you'd like to think

1688
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 3: that your starters now then become the vets, and then

1689
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 3: some of those bench players move on to other places.

1690
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:19,560
Speaker 2: That's the thing I think what they would like to do.

1691
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 3: But we both think the Pacers are gonna win this thing.

1692
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 3: We do so I think that the fallout from Oklahoma

1693
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 3: City losing this would be incredible. I don't think they

1694
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:35,640
Speaker 3: make a massive move if they lose. I think he

1695
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 3: still probably doubles down, even though I would I'd be

1696
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 3: interested to see what I could get for check, But

1697
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 3: ultimately this probably I'd rather have it be my problem

1698
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 3: than not have it right like, he's still a better player.

1699
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 3: Like and again to your point you were making about

1700
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 3: Jayalen Green earlier, are you ready to give up now?

1701
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 3: And with something that seems a little bit more mental.

1702
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 3: But I think we're gonna see a lot of teams

1703
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 3: and I think it'll be beneficial. But you look at

1704
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:06,680
Speaker 3: the pacers contracts. They got guys who were undervalued by

1705
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 3: other rosters who they have found and and made into

1706
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 3: guys that fit for them with like Aaron Nischmith and others.

1707
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 3: Siakam was obviously it's too expensive, and uh in Toronto

1708
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 3: and then Halliburton and Sacramento they decided that we want

1709
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 3: to stick with the Aaron Fox. Now most of them

1710
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 3: are going from Sacramento. But you know these are guys

1711
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,560
Speaker 3: that were that were traded. And I'm not saying that

1712
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 3: as a pejorative, but it's like generally, if you got Timber,

1713
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:34,760
Speaker 3: was not.

1714
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 2: Trading Anthony Edwards, no shot.

1715
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 4: Now, I guess on the pacer side, the biggest thing

1716
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 4: would be Miles Turner, longest tenured Pacers.

1717
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 3: But definitely because they couldn't trade him to the Lake

1718
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 3: the last five years.

1719
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 2: Well, if you win, I imagine Martin, He's getting top

1720
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 2: dollar for a center on the twenty twenty five market.

1721
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 2: What say you?

1722
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 3: I'd say so as well, and also sneaky from Mols Turner.

1723
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 3: If he wins, he might be one of the fifth

1724
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 3: he might be the fifth Jersey retired for Indiana.

1725
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:07,600
Speaker 2: That's worth discussion.

1726
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 3: It's been there ten years and be a champion, to

1727
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 3: be the first NBA championship they've ever won.

1728
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 2: Now, something to think about, something to think about.

1729
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:18,680
Speaker 4: The big thing that everyone who's really versed on this

1730
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:22,680
Speaker 4: apron and the new everything back office with with the

1731
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 4: x's and o's, with the numbers on salary cap in

1732
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:29,640
Speaker 4: the NBA loves the idea that the roster construction is

1733
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 4: sort of Siakam and Halle in one level and then

1734
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 4: everywhere else. Do you even feel like they'll have the

1735
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:39,640
Speaker 4: luxury of retaining that model of paying ten, you know,

1736
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:42,680
Speaker 4: eight nine, ten guys deep well off of this championship.

1737
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 2: Look at it, they're not paying eight nine to like no,

1738
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 2: I know, I know.

1739
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:48,640
Speaker 3: So this is what I think that the league of

1740
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:51,560
Speaker 3: copycat league is what I think we'll see from the

1741
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 3: next champions which you consider in the last two alright,

1742
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 3: Boston and now honestly for both of these teams, but

1743
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 3: again we're looking through this framework of Indiana winning.

1744
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 2: I think that you're.

1745
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:08,679
Speaker 3: You look at their best players, Halliburton and Siakam. Both

1746
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 3: of them are best in the flow of offense. Both

1747
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 3: of them are best in an option in Halliburton obviously

1748
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 3: a big time shot maker in the clutch, and Siakam

1749
01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 3: is the better one on one guy breaking down his

1750
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 3: matchup one on one. Yeah, I think if OKC had

1751
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:31,679
Speaker 3: another guy well and partly Chests is playing so poorly,

1752
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 3: that's what's really holding them back, because Javin Williams a

1753
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 3: guy who can get his in the flow of the offense,

1754
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 3: but also doesn't necessarily have to me the quote unquote

1755
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 3: back where he could just get his one on one

1756
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 3: and Shay obviously does. I think teams are gonna build

1757
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 3: around the more guys that can get in the flow

1758
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 3: of things, with maybe one or two that can break

1759
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 3: off and create their own offense, as opposed to the

1760
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 3: teams that we have seen in the past and hell

1761
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 3: this season, that are heric all about one guy creating

1762
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 3: everything for everybody else. I think that's the shift you

1763
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 3: might start to see. And I think it also helps

1764
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 3: suppress players contracts a little bit because it's like.

1765
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you look at this Pacers team. Nobody's averaging over

1766
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:14,040
Speaker 2: twenty five points a game.

1767
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 3: So when I see the contract negotiates, it's like, Hey,

1768
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 3: you mean a lot to us, but you're not gonna

1769
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 3: be able to draw what like you mean more to

1770
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 3: us than you do to anybody else.

1771
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 2: Is there any thought here?

1772
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:29,679
Speaker 4: Because I would give the OKC Thunder and the Pacers

1773
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 4: an a with not only landing a star or stars.

1774
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 4: If we'll put Halle in that conversation you got obviously

1775
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 4: Jay will Jay do excuse me? And you have Sea

1776
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 4: and then you have Halle and Tiakam is the fit

1777
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:46,919
Speaker 4: for the role players around these stars?

1778
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 2: Can it get any better than what we're seeing in

1779
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:51,759
Speaker 2: this model?

1780
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 4: Because you mentioned copycat league, I feel a lot of

1781
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 4: teams miss they land the star. They don't know how

1782
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 4: to land the pieces around the star. You get metaphorically

1783
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 4: with it, it's like a movie, all right, you got

1784
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 4: the star actor. Well, if everyone around him or hers

1785
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 4: bud kiss, then here we are with a bad movie.

1786
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 4: What say you on maybe buying from a turner from

1787
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 4: a chat anyone who has got something up soon with

1788
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 4: buying there just to keep the gravy train going as

1789
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 4: far as wins.

1790
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:28,720
Speaker 2: If I'm Indiana, I'm running it back.

1791
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 3: Honestly, if I'm Indiana, I might running back anyway, leaving

1792
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:36,759
Speaker 3: it even in a loss, because the East again super

1793
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 3: Highway wide open. Also, I've been back. I'm the team

1794
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 3: that's been to back to back Eastern Conference finals. I'm

1795
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 3: the team that just walked through the Eastern Conference playoffs.

1796
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 3: You guys didn't think I could do it. I knew

1797
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:51,960
Speaker 3: I could, right, We knew I got the one of

1798
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:53,520
Speaker 3: the longest tended coaches.

1799
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:53,719
Speaker 2: In the league.

1800
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:56,880
Speaker 3: Right, Rick Carlisle won a title before half the league

1801
01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:00,080
Speaker 3: was even coaching in the NBA. Great point, right in

1802
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 3: twenty eleven. He's seen it all right and and wants

1803
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 3: to play this style of basketball so much so that

1804
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 3: he walked.

1805
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 2: Away from Luca Dungeons hard hard to even remember, right, Like,

1806
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:19,760
Speaker 2: go back and look at the Wikipedia. I forgot too.

1807
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 2: I thought it was no, no, no, no, no, it

1808
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 2: was not some years it was.

1809
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:25,600
Speaker 3: He went from there through right the Indiana and it

1810
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:28,679
Speaker 3: was Luca Dunchets and dirt, no whiskey in that last stretch,

1811
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:32,599
Speaker 3: and Carlile was like, I'm washing my hands of this out.

1812
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 3: Just makes me think, Rick Carlisle, Mark Cuban, Genie Buss,

1813
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 3: one thing they have in common.

1814
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 2: They all walked away from Luca Duncheess, Sherlock Weiss back

1815
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 2: at it again. Let mean that that crinkle you hear

1816
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 2: as me taking my tenfoil hat out and putting it on.

1817
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:51,680
Speaker 7: Uh.

1818
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:54,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, so I think that, and honestly, I think

1819
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:57,559
Speaker 3: it'll be good for the NBA to have a more

1820
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 3: egalitarian style, to have a style where more guys are

1821
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 3: getting involved to where because when I was a.

1822
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:07,760
Speaker 2: Kid, damn it, some of the role players were my

1823
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 2: favorite players, some of them.

1824
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 4: And Shack always says that the role players, the stars

1825
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:16,560
Speaker 4: go out in the finals and do what they do.

1826
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 2: The role players put you over the edge.

1827
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 4: We are watching this series, Martin rollout off a role

1828
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 4: players galore. It's Caruso and Wiggins for thirty eight in

1829
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 4: game two, it's Mathern out.

1830
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 2: Of nowhere in game what was a Game four? Three?

1831
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 4: It is a fascinating, to your point basketball series win.

1832
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 4: Before the pre flop, everyone was down because they were

1833
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 4: two small markets.

1834
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:46,680
Speaker 2: And I know you're in lockstep with me on the

1835
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 2: opposite of that, thinking, Yeah, the day I become a

1836
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 2: TV execus the day I care about the ratings, I

1837
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 2: care about the ball.

1838
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 3: Although I'm not an NBA exact so I guess hypocritical.

1839
01:31:56,920 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 3: But the thing that, to your point, I think we

1840
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 3: are moving from the last two champions and really maybe

1841
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:12,080
Speaker 3: even the last three champions really make me feel that

1842
01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:14,680
Speaker 3: we are moving from an era where it mattered who

1843
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 3: your best player was to now an era where it

1844
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:20,720
Speaker 3: matters who the worst player you have to play is.

1845
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 3: That is a bar And I think that when you

1846
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:29,719
Speaker 3: look at Indiana, they are running out nine ten guys

1847
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 3: like this is the freaking preseason. There's only guys not

1848
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 3: playing because they're hurt. Because they're hurt.

1849
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 2: Adaw, he's getting minutes. And you look at Oklahoma City

1850
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 2: and they have a lot of depth as well, But

1851
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 2: it's not all Cason Wilace, Can I.

1852
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:47,760
Speaker 3: Trust you today? Chet Holmger? Can I trust at all?

1853
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:52,479
Speaker 3: Appreciate you saying that? Because I do sit here player

1854
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 3: for player and feel like Indiana is deeper right now,

1855
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:56,200
Speaker 3: right now.

1856
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I'm buying them for the next

1857
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 2: four years. Maybe I'm okay, see, but I'm sure, But

1858
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:04,799
Speaker 2: I'll talk about next forty eight hours, next forty.

1859
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 3: Eight hours, two sleeps, two sleeps. We're here, game seven, folks, enjoy, enjoyed.

1860
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 3: I do think, all right, most likely outcome for you,

1861
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 3: there's only four ways that can go right. Okay, See

1862
01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:18,840
Speaker 3: when's big Indiana wins big? Okay, see when small, Indie

1863
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 3: wins small.

1864
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 2: Where are you in? Where do you land? Most likely

1865
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 2: if you were to like kind of wrink them pacers

1866
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 2: tight game? I think so first quarter very tight.

1867
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:31,639
Speaker 4: Always take the under and a close out first quarter thought,

1868
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 4: it rolls out once the second units come out and

1869
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:38,920
Speaker 4: we see all the guys we've seen all series, That's

1870
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 4: when I think you'll get a better idea. But again,

1871
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:45,560
Speaker 4: how do you when you look at this say to

1872
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:49,680
Speaker 4: yourself Martin Carlisle with a ring, siack him with a

1873
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 4: ring and go with the thunder Who've never been there before? You?

1874
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:58,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not we are in lockstep. We are

1875
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 2: some Pettico on that way. We'll find out if we

1876
01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:02,800
Speaker 2: are some Patrico at the bottom of the hour as well,

1877
01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:04,920
Speaker 2: when we talk about some of the way to make

1878
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 2: a little bit of money on this finals, because I

1879
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 2: think that there's one thing that's kind of undervalued here

1880
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:14,679
Speaker 2: in terms of some of the ways that the future

1881
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 2: bets go. So we'll get to that at forty five

1882
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 2: after the hour coming up next.

1883
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:22,600
Speaker 3: There was a little bit of trash talking going on

1884
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 3: in the NFC North and all off season it's been

1885
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:33,639
Speaker 3: going this team taking shots at this other team in particular,

1886
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 3: and I don't even know what they did to deserve

1887
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 3: it or what about it it was. But the new

1888
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 3: kid on the block is writing a lot of checks.

1889
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 3: We'll see if they'll be able to cash them. We'll

1890
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 3: come up to that just a moment. Martin Wis' Alex

1891
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 3: Monico Fox Sports Radio.

1892
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:51,320
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1893
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:54,719
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1894
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:58,960
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1895
01:34:59,080 --> 01:34:59,719
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1896
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 3: Martin Weiss, Alex Monico joining you here on this Saturday evening,

1897
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 3: Saturday night, wherever you can hear us. Thank you for

1898
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:11,599
Speaker 3: joining us, coming to you live from the Fox Sports

1899
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 3: Radio studios. You can hit us on Twitter if you'd

1900
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 3: like and get into the conversation on Matt Martin Weiss

1901
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 3: Monico at Underscore. I'm Alex Monico Underscore. I should say, uh,

1902
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 3: And we got a couple guys. Oh, Charles up Church says,

1903
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:29,240
Speaker 3: a big fan of yours. Keep swinging for the Fenches.

1904
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:32,560
Speaker 2: Alex Monico shout out, Charles, my god, there you go,

1905
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 2: there you go. All right.

1906
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:41,800
Speaker 3: So Fanatics Fest is going on right now, which I

1907
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 3: think these are all just like a cousin of Comic Con. Right,

1908
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:47,760
Speaker 3: like Comic Con was the first one to kind of

1909
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 3: do this, and now everybody has these festivals and ideas,

1910
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:52,080
Speaker 3: all of them with a literation.

1911
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,800
Speaker 4: Comic Con San Diego from there, I take that as

1912
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:55,919
Speaker 4: with a high compliment.

1913
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 2: There you go.

1914
01:35:57,120 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 3: So Caleb Williams is that fanatics fest. It was asked

1915
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:08,200
Speaker 3: where he had his most negative experience with fans. He said, quote,

1916
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 3: probably Green Bay. I mean they suck. After the game after.

1917
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,040
Speaker 2: We won at Lambeau, I want to know a lambo.

1918
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:17,479
Speaker 3: By the way, we tried to do the Lambeau leap,

1919
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 3: tried to jump into the crowd where our fans were.

1920
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 3: Did they just started pushing, throwing everything out us, pushing

1921
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:25,600
Speaker 3: us down. That Lambeau leap is a real leap, not

1922
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 3: a little baby jump. You actually have to hide jump basically,

1923
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 3: and they're pushing you in the face.

1924
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 6: Now.

1925
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 2: But the Bears won four games five? Is that right?

1926
01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 2: They want a little more? No, ebra Flus was four

1927
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:43,559
Speaker 2: and two to start the year, and then they lost.

1928
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:46,120
Speaker 2: I think they won one more down stretch, so I

1929
01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 2: think that's five, five and twelve. There we go, all right,

1930
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 2: Thomas Brown, that nice one win as an interroom worst

1931
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:53,639
Speaker 2: luck in the NFL.

1932
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:55,880
Speaker 3: By the way, Thomas Brown has an aside interim coach

1933
01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:58,599
Speaker 3: for the Panthers last year and the Bears this year.

1934
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 2: That sucks. He's never gonna get a coaching job again.

1935
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 2: All right.

1936
01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 3: But the new coach of the Bears, Ben Johnson, has

1937
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 3: been talking about how great it is to beat Matt

1938
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 3: Lafleur since he got the Bears job.

1939
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 2: I didn't know that this was some you know, cotonly

1940
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 2: contested outside of the teams like each other.

1941
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 3: But he just continues to take shots at Matt Lafloor,

1942
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 3: talking about I really enjoyed beating Matt Lafloor twice a

1943
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:23,880
Speaker 3: year on the floor is like, well, what's the deal?

1944
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:27,680
Speaker 3: Now you got the quarterback, saying how darek Green Bay

1945
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 3: fans be upset with me for trying to jump into

1946
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 3: the stands the nerve? Now, I just wonder. It just

1947
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 3: seems to me at the Packers, who by my count,

1948
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:44,879
Speaker 3: have made the playoffs every year under Matt Lafleur except

1949
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:46,719
Speaker 3: the last one without Aaron.

1950
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:50,720
Speaker 2: Rodgers, That's that's correct, and the Bears.

1951
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 6: Who.

1952
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 3: The best thing that happened to the Bears in the

1953
01:37:57,160 --> 01:38:02,680
Speaker 3: last five years is Carolina is thinking trendously and that

1954
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:05,519
Speaker 3: becoming the worst rate NFL history, and so now you

1955
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:06,519
Speaker 3: get Caleb Williams.

1956
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:11,200
Speaker 2: But that's the what Am I missing something? Am I

1957
01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:12,519
Speaker 2: missing something? Because if I'm green bad?

1958
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:12,680
Speaker 4: Like?

1959
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 2: What is you guys? This problem?

1960
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:18,719
Speaker 4: Is it a little bit of that rivalry where Aaron

1961
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 4: Rodgers owned the Bears? What was he twenty four and five?

1962
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:25,519
Speaker 4: Something ridiculous? He even went back there and gave a

1963
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 4: little I own you?

1964
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 2: Is there any you know? I mean? And that's been

1965
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:30,320
Speaker 2: true for the longest.

1966
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:34,400
Speaker 4: The NFC North, by the way, is a real hierarchy

1967
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 4: of a division. They very much are seniors, junior, sophomores, freshman.

1968
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:44,080
Speaker 4: So I feel Ben Johnson, you know, he's looking at

1969
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 4: the floor on campus and he's ready to take him

1970
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:50,120
Speaker 4: down because the Bears are next team up. They're sophomores

1971
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:53,760
Speaker 4: about to say we're coming for the juniors, which are

1972
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:55,200
Speaker 4: the packers, and the lines of the seniors.

1973
01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:57,720
Speaker 2: That's I've always looked at the North here and I

1974
01:38:57,760 --> 01:39:00,439
Speaker 2: don't disagree with that, I think, But to me, I'm

1975
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 2: very interested.

1976
01:39:02,320 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 3: I know that we all say Ben Johnson is the

1977
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:08,680
Speaker 3: offensive guruin genius and so on, but I'm old enough

1978
01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 3: to remember that every single year in the NFL there's

1979
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:14,639
Speaker 3: going to be anywhere from four to seven coaches fired.

1980
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:16,559
Speaker 2: There's only thirty two NFL teams.

1981
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 3: That's almost a third of the hiring cycle, so you

1982
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 3: know what the chances are he may or may not

1983
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:24,760
Speaker 3: work out right like.

1984
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 2: And I, and I don't say this like as.

1985
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:33,479
Speaker 3: It's completely damning moment because it is June twenty first,

1986
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 3: But Ben Jonathan has a little bit of pre game

1987
01:39:38,479 --> 01:39:41,560
Speaker 3: one Adam Gasefield to me, a lot of talk, a

1988
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:44,720
Speaker 3: lot of conversation, a lot of It's just a lot

1989
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:47,519
Speaker 3: of weirdness to me for a guy who I think

1990
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:48,719
Speaker 3: was able.

1991
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:51,200
Speaker 2: To not necessarily hide behind his head coach.

1992
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:54,680
Speaker 3: But when he's throwing passes to the offensive tackles Dan

1993
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:57,799
Speaker 3: Campbell's the guy's gotta answer for that, Not Ben Johnson.

1994
01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:00,000
Speaker 3: It'll be I want to know what Ben Johnson said

1995
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:01,600
Speaker 3: when the Bears are three and five and it was

1996
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 3: an incomplete pass to whatever the Drew Dolman on third

1997
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:07,719
Speaker 3: and seven thirty seven.

1998
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 2: I don't know how you answer that.

1999
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Speaker 1: Now.

2000
01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:14,479
Speaker 4: I'm fascinating. This is one of the most interesting elements

2001
01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:16,000
Speaker 4: of year to year in the NFL. As you mentioned

2002
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 4: that coaching thing. Well, also, worse to first is something

2003
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 4: that happens.

2004
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:21,160
Speaker 2: Almost every year. I got it for you.

2005
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 4: A team finishing last coming back to next year going first.

2006
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 4: Since two thousand and two's NFL realignment, there's been twenty

2007
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:31,000
Speaker 4: seven times a worse the first.

2008
01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 2: Is there any thinking here, Martin?

2009
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:36,680
Speaker 4: A little bit of I don't call it wwe you

2010
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 4: know theater if you will, but let's poke anybody above

2011
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:43,600
Speaker 4: us in the division, because we are that team, and

2012
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:46,400
Speaker 4: I honestly think they could be that could go from

2013
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:47,720
Speaker 4: worse to first this year.

2014
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:51,920
Speaker 2: If history repeats itself in the NFL, I think the

2015
01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:54,880
Speaker 2: team that went from worst to no, they didn't go

2016
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:55,200
Speaker 2: to first.

2017
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Speaker 3: And then when the division I was about to say,

2018
01:40:56,800 --> 01:41:00,920
Speaker 3: I think the team last year was the Broncos. Broncos

2019
01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:03,800
Speaker 3: didn't win the division. They also were terrible to thee

2020
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:05,679
Speaker 3: prior and then made the playoffs. Was a wild card.

2021
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:08,760
Speaker 2: Most dead money was to deal with the Broncos. Uh,

2022
01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 2: not here, not here, not here. But I will say this,

2023
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:17,599
Speaker 2: Lions lost both coordinators. That matters.

2024
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:21,680
Speaker 3: Okay, Vikings, I know he's Sam Darnold, I know his

2025
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:26,760
Speaker 3: dad is granddad is the Marvelman. But he smoked that

2026
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:29,640
Speaker 3: last to the last two games, the game against the

2027
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 3: Lions and then the wildcard against the Rams. He smoked them,

2028
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:35,439
Speaker 3: and the Rams did get Philly their best game in

2029
01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:37,400
Speaker 3: the postseason. So I'll give you a tip of the

2030
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 3: cap to that. Yeah, but smoked them, smoked him. And

2031
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:47,840
Speaker 3: so you have JJ McCarthy who put it to you

2032
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:51,320
Speaker 3: like this, man, I'm getting married in August, so wow,

2033
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:53,559
Speaker 3: thank you brought our engagement period.

2034
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 2: I did not go on other dates.

2035
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:58,800
Speaker 3: The Minnesota Vikings took JJ McCarthy in the first round,

2036
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 3: and then since that moment signed Sam Donold called Daniel Jones.

2037
01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 2: Brought him in.

2038
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:07,040
Speaker 3: Apparently may or may not have talked to Aaron Rodgers

2039
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 3: and on just about everybody, Kirk Cousins, would you like

2040
01:42:10,439 --> 01:42:13,880
Speaker 3: to come back right, I mean, and on everybody. It's

2041
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 3: not something you generally do when you're saying, I'm gonna

2042
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:19,879
Speaker 3: go ahead and spend the rest of my life.

2043
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:23,640
Speaker 2: Great point, top tier analogy right there. So it just

2044
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:26,320
Speaker 2: gives me, you know, I put it to you like this.

2045
01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:28,840
Speaker 3: The Bears feel the best about their coaching scenario and

2046
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:31,440
Speaker 3: their quarterback scenario today, probably.

2047
01:42:31,240 --> 01:42:32,759
Speaker 2: Given that that is a festival.

2048
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 4: Like you said, a little comic con asked any any

2049
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:37,800
Speaker 4: play into the crowd, play into the moment.

2050
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:41,800
Speaker 2: Caleb absolutely, he knows theater he went to USC. Yeah,

2051
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:44,080
Speaker 2: but buddy, guess what this we're doing theater.

2052
01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:47,360
Speaker 3: Right now right kick it over to another man's who

2053
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:50,800
Speaker 3: I'm sure has never ever ever had any dalliances like

2054
01:42:50,840 --> 01:42:53,120
Speaker 3: the Minnesota Vikings was locked in from day one.

2055
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:53,960
Speaker 2: I'm sure of it.

2056
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:57,559
Speaker 7: Steve de Seger, yep, I was waiting for your second

2057
01:42:57,680 --> 01:42:59,160
Speaker 7: line to be I'm saving the.

2058
01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:03,760
Speaker 2: Dating for next year. By the way, the New York

2059
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:04,720
Speaker 2: Mets guys.

2060
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:08,639
Speaker 7: Have hit a record tying seven solo homers at Philadelphia tonight.

2061
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:10,920
Speaker 7: The Mets are leading eleven to four at Philly in

2062
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 7: the bottom of the ninth on Fox TV for much

2063
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:15,400
Speaker 7: of the country, so the Mets are about to end

2064
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 7: a seven game losing streak and tie the Phillies for

2065
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:21,679
Speaker 7: first in the NL East. The Padres ended Kansas City's

2066
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:24,840
Speaker 7: four game winning streak five to one. Fernando Tatist Junior

2067
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:28,280
Speaker 7: with a three run homer. Atlanta and Texas with road wins.

2068
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:31,919
Speaker 7: Home victories for Toronto and San Francisco, which beat Boston

2069
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:34,800
Speaker 7: three to two. Rafael Devers ex of Boston with a

2070
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:37,120
Speaker 7: two run homer. Giants had led three to nothing.

2071
01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 2: In the ninth.

2072
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:41,120
Speaker 7: Tampa Bay and the Yankees each wanted home Saint Louis

2073
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:43,600
Speaker 7: as well. The Cardinals have won five straight. They had

2074
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:46,920
Speaker 7: a comeback eleven inning victory over Cincinnati six to five.

2075
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:50,160
Speaker 7: Nolan Aernato the tying solo homer bottom of the ninth,

2076
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:53,639
Speaker 7: and it was the Cubs over Saint Louis. Seattle rather

2077
01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:56,680
Speaker 7: a ten to seven and for Seattle cal Raley his

2078
01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:59,719
Speaker 7: thirtieth home run of the season. The College World Series

2079
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 7: five started tonight. LSU won nothing winner against Coastal Carolina,

2080
01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:06,719
Speaker 7: which had won twenty six in a row. The winning

2081
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:09,840
Speaker 7: pitcher for the Tigers Kate Anderson, through a complete game

2082
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:13,760
Speaker 7: three hitter, one hundred and thirty pitches thrown, ten strikeouts,

2083
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:18,200
Speaker 7: five walks. WNBA wins from Minnesota and Phoenix. NBA Finals

2084
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:21,600
Speaker 7: Game seven is Sunday. US men's soccer plays again on

2085
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:25,679
Speaker 7: Sunday on Fox TV. The next IndyCar Race on Fox Sunday.

2086
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:28,280
Speaker 7: Danny Hamlin are in the poll for tomorrow's NASCAR event

2087
01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:32,799
Speaker 7: at Pocono. UFC fighter John Jones retired and Tommy Fleetwood

2088
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:35,840
Speaker 7: leads the Travelers by three strokes, Jason day As five

2089
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:36,560
Speaker 7: backpick to you.

2090
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:40,639
Speaker 3: Thanks Steve Martin Wise, Alex Monico coming to you live

2091
01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 3: from the Fox Sports Radio studios. You can broadcast the

2092
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:47,000
Speaker 3: stream this show. Rather we'll broadcast it. You can stream

2093
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:49,000
Speaker 3: at twenty four to seven in the new and improved

2094
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app to search Fox Sports Radio in the app

2095
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:52,680
Speaker 3: to stream us live.

2096
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:54,120
Speaker 2: One of the newest features in the.

2097
01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:56,240
Speaker 3: App, you can select Fox Sports Radio is one of

2098
01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:59,040
Speaker 3: your presets, just like the precess and and radio dials.

2099
01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 3: We'll be sure set Fox Sports Radio in the iHeart

2100
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:03,720
Speaker 3: app and it will always pop up at the top

2101
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:05,720
Speaker 3: of your screen. Or do like I do, just never

2102
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:08,799
Speaker 3: change the channel. Just exit the app when you're done listening.

2103
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:11,000
Speaker 3: When you open it back up, it'll start right back.

2104
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:15,320
Speaker 3: It's the easiest thing ever. Now, Steve just said that

2105
01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:17,920
Speaker 3: the Mets, what is it seven home runs that we

2106
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:19,880
Speaker 3: have seen the out of eleven runs here.

2107
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:25,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is how you know I've bet on too

2108
01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:26,200
Speaker 2: many things in my life.

2109
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 3: Is because my first, second, and third thought when Steve

2110
01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:36,160
Speaker 3: says they have hit seven home runs, is I bet you.

2111
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:37,800
Speaker 3: I would have found a way to bet on the

2112
01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:41,080
Speaker 3: guy who didn't go, y'all, I would have found a

2113
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:43,280
Speaker 3: way and I went to the box Square immediately say, okay,

2114
01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 3: Lin Door did, Nemo went twice, Soda went twice. Alvarez

2115
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:49,360
Speaker 3: win as well, So like, all right, maybe you know

2116
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:53,360
Speaker 3: what I would have my ticket in on Pete that happened,

2117
01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 3: that would have been my ticket right there.

2118
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 2: I love it. That's great. Hey seven solo, shout out Steve.

2119
01:45:57,880 --> 01:45:58,479
Speaker 2: That's incredible.

2120
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:01,960
Speaker 3: But that's just that's just that would be my the

2121
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:04,439
Speaker 3: way that I would bet so seen too much. I've

2122
01:46:04,479 --> 01:46:06,560
Speaker 3: seen too much, and one of the things that I

2123
01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 3: know I've seen too much of to the point that

2124
01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:14,240
Speaker 3: you may just Now we're in June twenty first, we

2125
01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 3: are in the height of honeymoon season in the NFL

2126
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 3: Mini camp just ended. Everybody is undefeated and everyone is

2127
01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:26,439
Speaker 3: going to the Super Bowl. Congratulations to your local team.

2128
01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:30,080
Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks, friend of the show, friend of Fox Sports Radio.

2129
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:32,000
Speaker 3: He did a little list here for NFL dot Com.

2130
01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:34,960
Speaker 3: May have heard of him. Five teams that won the

2131
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:38,920
Speaker 3: NFL off season. Since we're grading wins and losses in

2132
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:43,200
Speaker 3: the offseason, Bucky, I'm just poking fun. But anyway, five

2133
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:45,679
Speaker 3: teams that won the NFL off seasons per Bucky Brooks,

2134
01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:48,760
Speaker 3: number one the Chicago Bears, Di Bears, number two to

2135
01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens, number three to New England Patriots, number four,

2136
01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:55,839
Speaker 3: your Washington Commanders, and number five.

2137
01:46:56,520 --> 01:46:57,960
Speaker 2: The Vegas Raiders.

2138
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:01,839
Speaker 3: Of the those five teams that won the off season,

2139
01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:05,200
Speaker 3: per Bucky Brooks, Alex Monico, I asked you, which one

2140
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:07,760
Speaker 3: of these is going to lose the regular season? None

2141
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:10,120
Speaker 3: of these five, all five of these teams are gonna

2142
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:13,560
Speaker 3: be good. Think my claim on it. There will be

2143
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 3: a stinker among the bunch. You tell me who it's

2144
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:16,320
Speaker 3: gonna be.

2145
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:20,400
Speaker 4: It's gonna be between the Raiders and the Patriots. For me,

2146
01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:25,680
Speaker 4: of that list, I'd have to go. I'd have to

2147
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:29,400
Speaker 4: go with the New England Patriots. And that's more so

2148
01:47:29,720 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 4: because Geno Pete Chip also heard you you speak on

2149
01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:38,960
Speaker 4: it before the show about Chip recruiting Geno. That's that's

2150
01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:43,599
Speaker 4: good vibes. We got a wide receiver one enjoined himself,

2151
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:47,080
Speaker 4: Gino out of high school. I go join him to

2152
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:48,200
Speaker 4: play at Org.

2153
01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:50,920
Speaker 3: Gino ended up going to West Virginia and then also

2154
01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:54,400
Speaker 3: but Chip, I forget where he was at the time,

2155
01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:57,240
Speaker 3: but they were all in on trying to draft Gino

2156
01:47:57,320 --> 01:47:59,600
Speaker 3: Smith wherever he was at meeting didn't go well with

2157
01:47:59,720 --> 01:48:02,680
Speaker 3: every but Chipping Gino have a history of a few

2158
01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:07,519
Speaker 3: years now without question. Now frabel is he's treking up

2159
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:10,719
Speaker 3: on mountain with the Patriots. As far as reset and culture,

2160
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:15,160
Speaker 3: I gotta give him a year. I like Drake May's trajectory.

2161
01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:18,320
Speaker 4: I don't know that they have anything to hang your

2162
01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:21,360
Speaker 4: hat on offensively, Martin, outside of you know, offensive line

2163
01:48:21,439 --> 01:48:26,160
Speaker 4: isn't terrible. They have had no skilled players over there

2164
01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:29,400
Speaker 4: in New England since Brady was under center that were

2165
01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:34,080
Speaker 4: worth really comparing around the league to serious pro bowlers.

2166
01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:37,200
Speaker 4: I don't know how you don't go to Patriots here

2167
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:43,599
Speaker 4: just because the Raiders have had They've had pieces over

2168
01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:46,880
Speaker 4: the last couple of years. They just haven't had structure. Pete,

2169
01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:49,519
Speaker 4: you go back to his work week up there in

2170
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:52,559
Speaker 4: the PNW. He had a thing called competition Wednesdays. Sure

2171
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:55,920
Speaker 4: Kazuka bubblegum chew, and Pete knows how to win. I

2172
01:48:55,960 --> 01:48:57,600
Speaker 4: will hang my hat on that. So I'll have to

2173
01:48:57,640 --> 01:48:59,160
Speaker 4: go Patriots. Final answer here, what say you?

2174
01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:00,680
Speaker 6: So?

2175
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:06,200
Speaker 3: The options are the Bears, the Ravens, the Patriots, the Commanders,

2176
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:12,320
Speaker 3: and the Raiders. My first instinct is to go to

2177
01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:16,600
Speaker 3: the Raiders. That's because I agree with everything that you

2178
01:49:16,840 --> 01:49:19,240
Speaker 3: just said. First of all, I think Pete Carroll raises

2179
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:22,799
Speaker 3: your floor incredibly. I think that in terms of somebody

2180
01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:26,000
Speaker 3: who can come in, build a foundation for two to

2181
01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:28,679
Speaker 3: three seasons and be able to hand the ball off

2182
01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:33,519
Speaker 3: metaphorically speaking to the next guy, doesn't get much better

2183
01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 3: than Pete. And the thing that concerns me most about

2184
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:41,760
Speaker 3: that is the competition in the division. I think very

2185
01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:43,800
Speaker 3: highly of Sean Payton as a head coach. I know

2186
01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:45,800
Speaker 3: a lot of people seem to be in the media

2187
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:48,519
Speaker 3: that don't for whatever reason, for every reason. He's not

2188
01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:50,800
Speaker 3: a very nice guy, perhaps you know what I'm saying.

2189
01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:52,560
Speaker 3: But he was the coach of the Saints and I

2190
01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 3: saw him turn water into wine every Sunday, and we

2191
01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:55,920
Speaker 3: weren't at church.

2192
01:49:56,439 --> 01:50:00,400
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm with you on Shane Peyton.

2193
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:02,759
Speaker 3: And I like the fact that he's got a quarterback

2194
01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:05,360
Speaker 3: that is going to listen to every single word that

2195
01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:07,280
Speaker 3: he says to do, because that's what's probably happened with

2196
01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:09,519
Speaker 3: rus Russ wanted a little bit of more autonomy. Bow

2197
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:11,400
Speaker 3: knicks will run through a wall. Ask you how many

2198
01:50:11,439 --> 01:50:13,200
Speaker 3: times would you like me to run through that wall, sir,

2199
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:19,439
Speaker 3: the Patriots. The argument that you made, I agree with

2200
01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 3: it as well, but h and no Patriot. I put

2201
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:27,800
Speaker 3: it like this, if you're drafting a Patriot in your

2202
01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 3: fantasy football draft, you're in bad shape and you haven't

2203
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:32,720
Speaker 3: started the year yet.

2204
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:35,759
Speaker 4: There's a rule in like a third of fantasy football

2205
01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:38,400
Speaker 4: leagues around. It's just the world, don't draft.

2206
01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:42,080
Speaker 3: Don't draft the Patriot. It's not happening. Drake May has

2207
01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:45,080
Speaker 3: shown some signs. I'm lower than on him than.

2208
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:45,639
Speaker 2: Most other people.

2209
01:50:45,720 --> 01:50:48,080
Speaker 3: Also think a little bit of a crash dummy in

2210
01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:51,160
Speaker 3: terms of the way that he's diving into things head first, buddy,

2211
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:53,600
Speaker 3: like you only get one of those. Yeah, But I

2212
01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:58,960
Speaker 3: think Vrabel lifts your floor. I think the difference between

2213
01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:02,640
Speaker 3: a coach like Mike to coach like Mike McDaniel in

2214
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 3: Miami is as farther than the flight from Boston to Miami.

2215
01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:10,240
Speaker 2: It is, Miles. I'm with you on that. I'm with

2216
01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:10,800
Speaker 2: you on that.

2217
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 4: It feels a little tennesseeish though that he's inheriting. He's

2218
01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:18,360
Speaker 4: also inheriting to me. Tennessee can get you to the

2219
01:51:18,439 --> 01:51:19,519
Speaker 4: wildcard in the AFC.

2220
01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:23,200
Speaker 2: That's true. Liked you in this in this division in

2221
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:26,640
Speaker 2: the AFC East, first year coach Aaron Glenn with the Jets, Well,

2222
01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 2: see how he plays out last year coach Mike McDaniel

2223
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:31,200
Speaker 2: because he's on the way out the door. If this

2224
01:51:31,479 --> 01:51:33,599
Speaker 2: doesn't go well, first play schedule for the Bills.

2225
01:51:33,640 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 3: I hear you.

2226
01:51:34,120 --> 01:51:35,160
Speaker 2: So there, I see.

2227
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:38,440
Speaker 3: I could see nine here in competing with the Pittsburgh's

2228
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:39,559
Speaker 3: of the world for the wildcard.

2229
01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:43,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Commanders are going to be in

2230
01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:44,760
Speaker 2: a little bit more trouble here.

2231
01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:48,800
Speaker 4: Wow, you're hitting me with the command on a sequential

2232
01:51:48,960 --> 01:51:50,160
Speaker 4: pause for the pivot.

2233
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:53,960
Speaker 3: I think the Commanders. You look at their record in

2234
01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:56,800
Speaker 3: one score games. You look at the teams that they've

2235
01:51:56,880 --> 01:52:00,800
Speaker 3: beaten some of those one score games, like the Bears.

2236
01:52:03,520 --> 01:52:06,080
Speaker 3: Of course I'm forgetting the other one. But this, this team,

2237
01:52:06,280 --> 01:52:10,760
Speaker 3: to me, had a ton of games, came down to

2238
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:15,640
Speaker 3: the wire. Jayden Daniels was incredible. I'm saying this, do

2239
01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:17,800
Speaker 3: it again, do it again.

2240
01:52:17,880 --> 01:52:20,479
Speaker 2: The sophomore slump is real, Mark like, and I'm this,

2241
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:22,600
Speaker 2: I'm not I hate no Jadon Daniels, none of that.

2242
01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:28,679
Speaker 3: But maybe if the Lions aren't missing an actual double

2243
01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:32,599
Speaker 3: digit number of players who had started for the defense right,

2244
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:33,200
Speaker 3: not a Nott.

2245
01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:36,920
Speaker 2: The eleven defensive starters players that had started right.

2246
01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:41,720
Speaker 3: Jamal Adams was on the Lions defensive offer in that

2247
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 3: game against the Washington Convenders.

2248
01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:47,280
Speaker 2: Okay, all due respect to the LSU legend, Jamal Adams

2249
01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 2: was on that roster.

2250
01:52:48,520 --> 01:52:52,439
Speaker 3: So I think maybe things go different, you know, I

2251
01:52:52,479 --> 01:52:55,120
Speaker 3: think maybe if Frankie Louvill keeps jumping over the pile

2252
01:52:55,240 --> 01:52:56,960
Speaker 3: for a touch push, maybe things go a little bit

2253
01:52:57,040 --> 01:52:59,599
Speaker 3: different and that, like, and so I just am curious

2254
01:52:59,680 --> 01:53:05,800
Speaker 3: to know how the Commander's team, with a boatload of expectations,

2255
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:11,080
Speaker 3: handles them with the defending Super Bowl champions in your division.

2256
01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:13,320
Speaker 3: And I know that this is gonna sound crazy, so

2257
01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:17,320
Speaker 3: it'd be the last one I say. But over the

2258
01:53:17,439 --> 01:53:20,360
Speaker 3: last four years, three of them, the Dallas Cowboys went

2259
01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:23,080
Speaker 3: twelve to five. I know last year was the most

2260
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:26,559
Speaker 3: recent and they got a new coach, but Dak Prescott

2261
01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:30,920
Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb and the like, that still is above average

2262
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:32,720
Speaker 3: in terms of this. Now, are they gonna win the

2263
01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:35,760
Speaker 3: Super Bowl? No, but they could win enough to knock

2264
01:53:35,880 --> 01:53:37,280
Speaker 3: off a team like the Commander.

2265
01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:38,000
Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying.

2266
01:53:38,160 --> 01:53:40,720
Speaker 3: Can they win eight games and one of the eight

2267
01:53:41,120 --> 01:53:43,519
Speaker 3: be against Washington and knock them down a peg.

2268
01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:44,400
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

2269
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:47,599
Speaker 3: Like that to me seems like a reality. Dallas went

2270
01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:50,120
Speaker 3: seven six to eight games and one of them to

2271
01:53:50,160 --> 01:53:52,280
Speaker 3: be the Commanders, maybe two of them to be the Commanders.

2272
01:53:52,479 --> 01:53:53,640
Speaker 3: I'm not blinking twice at that.

2273
01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:57,760
Speaker 4: You're a good salesman, because now I'm deep in the

2274
01:53:57,840 --> 01:54:00,280
Speaker 4: weeds on Commanders numbers ever plus one that and over

2275
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,519
Speaker 4: differential they were right above. I don't say your Saints,

2276
01:54:02,560 --> 01:54:04,920
Speaker 4: of course, there are two notches above the Jets from

2277
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:08,800
Speaker 4: overall points per game perspective, defensively, and then you look

2278
01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:12,679
Speaker 4: at their schedule Martin, you gotta go play the AFC West.

2279
01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:20,560
Speaker 4: That's not fun at Kansas City, Denver, the Chargers. You know,

2280
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:22,920
Speaker 4: you look at the division already on top of that,

2281
01:54:23,960 --> 01:54:28,640
Speaker 4: and then you pepper in the NFC North, you got Detroit.

2282
01:54:29,320 --> 01:54:33,000
Speaker 4: You gotta go to Minnesota. I mean, this is not

2283
01:54:33,160 --> 01:54:36,320
Speaker 4: a cupcake schedule by any means, Not to mention worth

2284
01:54:36,360 --> 01:54:38,160
Speaker 4: shouting out. They got tape on JAD.

2285
01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:41,840
Speaker 2: Now, look, this is a team. We just did the

2286
01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:42,440
Speaker 2: math on it.

2287
01:54:43,040 --> 01:54:44,840
Speaker 3: The commanded if you do them with the last two

2288
01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:50,040
Speaker 3: years sixteen and eighteen, right, So I'm just saying the roster,

2289
01:54:50,400 --> 01:54:51,080
Speaker 3: the turnover.

2290
01:54:51,320 --> 01:54:54,200
Speaker 2: This was a lot of the same roster plus Jayden

2291
01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:58,320
Speaker 2: Daniels right now. They ended the regular season last year

2292
01:54:58,440 --> 01:54:59,440
Speaker 2: five straight wins.

2293
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:03,800
Speaker 3: Three of them occurred on the last play from scrimmage,

2294
01:55:04,600 --> 01:55:08,080
Speaker 3: and the fourth one ended with the Commanders stopping a

2295
01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:11,640
Speaker 3: two point con version. That's a lot, that's a lot

2296
01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:14,800
Speaker 3: of calling heads in it coming up your way.

2297
01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:19,160
Speaker 4: That is definitely pendulum pendulum swinging back the other way

2298
01:55:19,200 --> 01:55:19,640
Speaker 4: for this year.

2299
01:55:19,720 --> 01:55:21,880
Speaker 3: This team could even be better than the one last

2300
01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:23,320
Speaker 3: year and not finished as well.

2301
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:27,600
Speaker 4: It does beg the question of what kind of NFC

2302
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 4: East we're gonna be running into too.

2303
01:55:30,160 --> 01:55:32,720
Speaker 3: Coming up next, we will go back to Game seven.

2304
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:36,600
Speaker 3: I might just have a way for us to make

2305
01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:38,200
Speaker 3: a little money betting as in this thing.

2306
01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:38,920
Speaker 2: Who wins?

2307
01:55:38,960 --> 01:55:41,160
Speaker 3: Who knows, But we could win some money and that's

2308
01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:44,360
Speaker 3: what's important coming up with that. Martin Wiss, Alex Monico,

2309
01:55:44,440 --> 01:55:45,200
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio.

2310
01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:53,280
Speaker 2: Game seven is almost tier can't I can't believe it?

2311
01:55:53,400 --> 01:55:57,680
Speaker 2: The small market finals. Who even wants to there's no

2312
01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:00,520
Speaker 2: there's no name, bread recognition. What are we doing? You

2313
01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:01,120
Speaker 2: know what we're doing.

2314
01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:03,560
Speaker 3: We're having a hell of a time over here at

2315
01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:07,880
Speaker 3: this NBA Finals, So all you fake TV executives were.

2316
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:10,280
Speaker 2: Saying, well, what about the ratings? Oh my gosh, what

2317
01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:14,480
Speaker 2: about the superstars? You know what? Shut up, everyone's watching

2318
01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:17,080
Speaker 2: Sunday now. Everybody is watching Sunday night.

2319
01:56:17,120 --> 01:56:22,160
Speaker 3: Were locked in eight o'clock Eastern, So just about twenty

2320
01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:28,080
Speaker 3: one hours from now we will see game seven starting now.

2321
01:56:28,160 --> 01:56:33,600
Speaker 2: Alex, you are the true better here. I'll say that

2322
01:56:33,760 --> 01:56:37,640
Speaker 2: I bet a lot, but I am not very good.

2323
01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:39,480
Speaker 2: I lose.

2324
01:56:39,640 --> 01:56:43,800
Speaker 3: That's what people were like, how can show hel Tany's interpreter.

2325
01:56:45,080 --> 01:56:47,320
Speaker 2: Lose forty five erc out of his bets and still

2326
01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:49,560
Speaker 2: want to bet. I was like, y'all, don't get it.

2327
01:56:49,760 --> 01:56:52,160
Speaker 2: I get it. That's me one hundred percent, because if

2328
01:56:52,240 --> 01:56:55,520
Speaker 2: you win fifty five, it's just enough to lie to yourself. Okay,

2329
01:56:55,600 --> 01:56:57,360
Speaker 2: it's just enough to lie to yourself.

2330
01:56:57,640 --> 01:56:59,720
Speaker 3: And I might be lying on myself here, but Alex,

2331
01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 3: I think there's some value here on the finals MVP.

2332
01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:04,760
Speaker 2: There's a lot of value Martin.

2333
01:57:04,760 --> 01:57:09,760
Speaker 4: I mean, if we're looking at essentially SGA aside, you're

2334
01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:13,040
Speaker 4: getting over three to one. And it's depending where you shop,

2335
01:57:13,120 --> 01:57:17,400
Speaker 4: of course, but I'll pull up at MGM here. Seeakham's

2336
01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:20,320
Speaker 4: plus three twenty five for those listing, that's ten dollars

2337
01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:22,600
Speaker 4: to win thirty two to twenty five back.

2338
01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:26,240
Speaker 2: Jalen Williams is plus ten fifty.

2339
01:57:26,320 --> 01:57:28,360
Speaker 4: And then you start getting interesting, and I'll toss it

2340
01:57:28,440 --> 01:57:31,720
Speaker 4: to you Haliburton at fifteen to one, so that'd be

2341
01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:34,320
Speaker 4: one hundred down and win fifteen hundred back sixteen your pocket.

2342
01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:37,560
Speaker 4: It is an interesting play. And then I have to

2343
01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:40,960
Speaker 4: get your inkling on the only other two on the board,

2344
01:57:41,080 --> 01:57:44,120
Speaker 4: which is TJ. McConnell at plus ten thousand and ob

2345
01:57:44,440 --> 01:57:48,440
Speaker 4: top In at plus twenty five thousand your take.

2346
01:57:49,160 --> 01:57:52,160
Speaker 2: So here's the thing I've learned over my years of

2347
01:57:52,280 --> 01:57:54,520
Speaker 2: doing this, And not only do I have ridley to

2348
01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:57,360
Speaker 2: think pretty decent takes, I can also predict what the

2349
01:57:57,440 --> 01:57:59,560
Speaker 2: takes will be after the fact. Oh I love that.

2350
01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:04,000
Speaker 3: So I think the value here to me is on

2351
01:58:04,120 --> 01:58:06,720
Speaker 3: Pascal Siakam. I'd bet big there. I think the Pacers

2352
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:09,560
Speaker 3: win this game. The odds here to me show that

2353
01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:15,000
Speaker 3: Vegas still is downplaying Indiana's ability to potentially win this game.

2354
01:58:15,120 --> 01:58:17,840
Speaker 3: Agree That's why Shake Gilders Alexander is such a heavy

2355
01:58:17,880 --> 01:58:21,360
Speaker 3: favorite to win the MVP because if Oklahoma City does

2356
01:58:21,480 --> 01:58:24,320
Speaker 3: win it, he will be the MVP, and it will

2357
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:26,720
Speaker 3: be well deserved. I don't want to hear anything about

2358
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:29,160
Speaker 3: Jaylen Williams and his forty points. He gets all of

2359
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:33,680
Speaker 3: that because Shay Gilders Alexander is who he is. Pascal Siakam,

2360
01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:36,600
Speaker 3: I believe when you consider the people who vote for

2361
01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:41,480
Speaker 3: this award, right, I think the MVP of the finals,

2362
01:58:41,600 --> 01:58:44,320
Speaker 3: if Indiana wins, is gonna be won by one vote,

2363
01:58:45,240 --> 01:58:48,160
Speaker 3: it'll be a five to four difference, and the five

2364
01:58:48,200 --> 01:58:51,680
Speaker 3: to four will be Pascal Siakam. Like you was said,

2365
01:58:51,680 --> 01:58:54,560
Speaker 3: I think it'll be that close with Tyrese Haliburt, and

2366
01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:56,920
Speaker 3: I think the argument that he'll have is Pascal is

2367
01:58:57,000 --> 01:58:58,440
Speaker 3: better in the finals, and.

2368
01:58:58,560 --> 01:59:02,160
Speaker 2: Everybody else that takes will be Halliburton got them here.

2369
01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:05,600
Speaker 2: This is a stupid award. Halliburton's the reason why they

2370
01:59:05,680 --> 01:59:07,800
Speaker 2: play the way they play, and this is just the

2371
01:59:07,880 --> 01:59:10,000
Speaker 2: second year in a row that they got the Eastern

2372
01:59:10,040 --> 01:59:10,760
Speaker 2: Conference Finals.

2373
01:59:10,840 --> 01:59:14,080
Speaker 3: In the NBA Finals MVP role, that'll be the takes.

2374
01:59:14,280 --> 01:59:16,040
Speaker 3: But I think Siakam's the smart bet here.

2375
01:59:16,320 --> 01:59:19,840
Speaker 4: I think your spot on I just want to throw

2376
01:59:19,960 --> 01:59:23,520
Speaker 4: you one caveat and I love calling it an ice

2377
01:59:23,640 --> 01:59:24,680
Speaker 4: cube triple double.

2378
01:59:25,240 --> 01:59:27,920
Speaker 2: If you're a throwback fan of ice Cube on the mic.

2379
01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:34,080
Speaker 4: If TJ McConnell, who has flirted with it, and Halliburton,

2380
01:59:34,480 --> 01:59:36,600
Speaker 4: who had a twenty two to nine and eleven game,

2381
01:59:36,960 --> 01:59:40,320
Speaker 4: either of them, obviously Halliburton way more likely to take

2382
01:59:40,360 --> 01:59:42,560
Speaker 4: a triple double. Does that change your thinking at all

2383
01:59:42,960 --> 01:59:44,680
Speaker 4: for a PACER's MVP bout?

2384
01:59:45,200 --> 01:59:49,040
Speaker 3: Ironically enough, I partially think that TJ McConnell might be

2385
01:59:49,080 --> 01:59:51,480
Speaker 3: at a better would have better odds to have a

2386
01:59:51,520 --> 01:59:54,520
Speaker 3: triple double than Tyres Haliburt. Yeah, that like I don't

2387
01:59:54,600 --> 01:59:57,320
Speaker 3: without knowing off the doubt. I weirdly feel like, oh,

2388
01:59:57,320 --> 01:59:59,360
Speaker 3: I just just say this might be the more valuable bet.

2389
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:01,960
Speaker 2: He was twelve nine and six last game. That's what

2390
02:00:02,000 --> 02:00:03,680
Speaker 2: I'm saying. He was the postgame interview.

2391
02:00:03,880 --> 02:00:08,280
Speaker 3: I will say this, if TJ McConnell wins the finals MVP,

2392
02:00:09,320 --> 02:00:11,800
Speaker 3: I will be the one shouting.

2393
02:00:11,520 --> 02:00:14,240
Speaker 2: About how they got it wrong two years ago. It

2394
02:00:14,360 --> 02:00:14,840
Speaker 2: will be me.

2395
02:00:15,480 --> 02:00:18,920
Speaker 3: I respect TJ McConnell immensely. I think it's awesome what

2396
02:00:19,000 --> 02:00:21,840
Speaker 3: he does. The only reason he is able to do

2397
02:00:21,960 --> 02:00:23,960
Speaker 3: what he does is because he plays twenty three minutes

2398
02:00:24,000 --> 02:00:26,080
Speaker 3: a game, And the only reason he plays twenty business

2399
02:00:26,120 --> 02:00:28,360
Speaker 3: game is because Tyreek celibrating directly in front of him

2400
02:00:28,640 --> 02:00:28,840
Speaker 3: is a.

2401
02:00:28,880 --> 02:00:32,440
Speaker 2: Star, now superstar, not sure, but star, and that's why

2402
02:00:32,520 --> 02:00:35,840
Speaker 2: that exists. Completely agree, I'm lockstep with you.

2403
02:00:36,160 --> 02:00:39,360
Speaker 4: We are out of here on the Pacers Money Line

2404
02:00:39,720 --> 02:00:41,400
Speaker 4: and siakam at Plus three twenty five.

2405
02:00:41,520 --> 02:00:44,240
Speaker 2: I love it, Marin, I absolutely love it. I'm sprinking

2406
02:00:44,560 --> 02:00:46,640
Speaker 2: just a little bit. It's a little not Seattle Rain,

2407
02:00:46,880 --> 02:00:47,880
Speaker 2: little Arizona Rain.

2408
02:00:48,040 --> 02:00:51,120
Speaker 3: On Tyree's Taliburt for MVP as well, but coming up next,

2409
02:00:51,240 --> 02:00:53,640
Speaker 3: Jason Martin, Arnie Spaniel look keep it locked to Fox

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Speaker 3: Sports Radio