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Speaker 2: You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez
Speaker 2: and Mike SIMPERDVI on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 3: Welcome back to the second segment of the show. And indeed,
Speaker 3: I believe we do have Brian Alvarez with us. Brian,
Speaker 3: can you confirm.
Speaker 1: I can confirm I'm here for the moment.
Speaker 3: Look at that we have a special guest, Curtly in
Speaker 3: a dispute with Elon Musk, so he may disappear at
Speaker 3: some point during anytime, but happy to have him while
Speaker 3: we can, especially after such a packed weekend. You know,
Speaker 3: usually I look at the lineups and I go, Okay,
Speaker 3: there's no pay per view this weekend. I'm gonna have
Speaker 3: time to relax, time to spend outside of wrestling, and
Speaker 3: then as soon as Friday gets going, it never ends.
Speaker 3: I spent the whole weekend and this morning watching wrestling.
Speaker 3: But you know, after watching the wrestler this morning, I'm
Speaker 3: not even complaining about it. I had a fantastic time
Speaker 3: watching this Triple A show.
Speaker 1: So you watch you watch Triple A this morning.
Speaker 3: I watched the entire show. Oh, I thought it was
Speaker 3: the best thing I saw this weekend. I don't think
Speaker 3: you're gonna disagree with that.
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, this was the best show that I've seen
Speaker 1: in a long time. And the best part about it
Speaker 1: is my favorite match was the match that I kind
Speaker 1: of was looking forward to the most, but for completely
Speaker 1: different reasons. I thought the Wyatts and the Psycho Circus
Speaker 1: was gonna be the worst match of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: I thought it's just in time for the Awards these
Speaker 1: guys are gonna go out there, it's gonna be an
Speaker 1: atrocity instead. It was my favorite match on this show.
Speaker 3: Tom, Hey, I agree with you, and there was a
Speaker 3: lot that I liked on this show. I mean, hey,
Speaker 3: as long as we're talking about it, we might as
Speaker 3: well just get right into this show and we'll cover
Speaker 3: the other stuff later because kind of the injury news,
Speaker 3: the big injury news of the weekend is coming out
Speaker 3: of this show, which happened in the main event to
Speaker 3: Dominic Mysterio suffered a shoulder injury. I don't believe it's
Speaker 3: been diagnosed yet, but you could see him favoring it
Speaker 3: throughout the rest of the matchup. But as somebody who's
Speaker 3: separated their ac joint probably more than once in the
Speaker 3: past to me twice, Yeah, that's what it looked like
Speaker 3: because he was able to continue working. He was taking bumps,
Speaker 3: but clearly something went wrong in that main event match.
Speaker 3: That main event match took place in front of thirteen
Speaker 3: thousand people over thirteen thousand people Arena Guadalajara, so a
Speaker 3: fantastic crowd. They were going nuts virtually the whole show,
Speaker 3: virtually the whole three hours. I don't know if they
Speaker 3: had any dark matches or anything before that. But the
Speaker 3: crowd was wild the entire time.
Speaker 1: You know, I gotta make one com here. I was
Speaker 1: actually in the wrong chat. I thought it was in Twitch,
Speaker 1: but I'm actually in YouTube, which is never It's never
Speaker 1: a good thing. And this fella here goes I refuse
Speaker 1: to watch Triple A. I have dignity. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you something, everybody, let me tell you something. In twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five, there are so many great wrestlers all over
Speaker 1: the world. This isn't like you know, when we grew up.
Speaker 1: Actually to Tom's too young. I mean when I grew up,
Speaker 1: there was like a lot of really terrible wrestling all
Speaker 1: over the place. But nowadays there's so many good wrestlers everywhere.
Speaker 1: If you look at that Triple A card, this is
Speaker 1: not about dignity. You look at that card and there
Speaker 1: was only one match that looked like it would be bad,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't. Every other match, every other match looked
Speaker 1: like it was gonna be good to great, and they
Speaker 1: all were.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they all delivered, And the one that you thought
Speaker 3: was gonna be bad delivered more than the rest of them.
Speaker 3: But like I mentioned, in the main event, there was
Speaker 3: an injury to Dominic Mysterios. El Grande Americano and Dominic
Speaker 3: Mysterio the new Gringos Locos taking on the team of
Speaker 3: Ray Mysterio and Ray Fennix, and this was a great match.
Speaker 3: Ray Mysterio turned back the clock. He has looked fantastic
Speaker 3: in the last couple appearances. He kind of just popped
Speaker 3: up on Raw and he's back in the main event
Speaker 3: scene doing great work, and he looked awesome. Here the
Speaker 3: heels got the heat on Ray Fennix.
Speaker 1: Fifty one years old, coming off a torn groin that
Speaker 1: kept him out for like eight months, and Ray's back
Speaker 1: looking awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got he got the hot tag and he
Speaker 3: looked awesome. As you said. They did a spot where
Speaker 3: Dominic was going for the three amigos and on the
Speaker 3: third one he held Ray up and Ray came down
Speaker 3: and countered it with like a spiking DDT and that's
Speaker 3: where Dominic looked like you just spiked himself on the
Speaker 3: shoulder taking the bump. The match kept going on. Finnix
Speaker 3: locked an octopus on Grande and the ropes Ray hit
Speaker 3: the six one nine. Grande tried to get the foreign
Speaker 3: metal object to Dominic to put in his mask, but Penta,
Speaker 3: who was originally scheduled to be in this matchup teaming
Speaker 3: with Ray Fennix before he was injured. During the match
Speaker 3: with Solo Soca, Penta ran down and he stopped El Grande.
Speaker 3: He kicked Dominic, Ray hit the six to one nine
Speaker 3: on Dom dropped the dime on him with the splash
Speaker 3: and pinned his own son the Triple A Mega Champion
Speaker 3: to win the match. And afterwards, it was kind of
Speaker 3: bizarre because Grande and Dom, who they've been pushing as
Speaker 3: this new unit, the new Los Gringos Locos, had words
Speaker 3: after the match, dom kind of stormed off, and then
Speaker 3: the crowd was going absolutely crazy for El Grande Americano.
Speaker 3: He eventually shook hands with Ray Masterio JBL called him
Speaker 3: a Benedict Arnold, and the crowd went even wilder for Grande,
Speaker 3: chanting his name.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've loved El Grande Americano like he's a heel,
Speaker 1: but they love him, and so I think they just figured, well,
Speaker 1: may as well just go babyface with this guy. So,
Speaker 1: but Los riot Los Americanos, Ryan Bravo, they're still heels.
Speaker 1: But I think El Grande's gone gun full babyface.
Speaker 3: Speaking of Los Americanos, they were in the opener, which
Speaker 3: was an all action match from start to finish, double teams, quadruples,
Speaker 3: team spots, just insane stuff throughout. It was mister Iguana
Speaker 3: and Nino Nino Ambergasa, which that's a team I would
Speaker 3: love to wrestle alongside you, Brian, mistery Guana and Nino
Speaker 3: and Jusa. They took on the LWO Los Americanos Areo
Speaker 3: and Bravo and Laparka and Octagon Junior all action. As
Speaker 3: I mentioned, Joaquin Wilde was flying around. Bravo gave Nino
Speaker 3: Ambergasa a spinning torture rack, which was quite oppressive considering
Speaker 3: he's half the size Ottogon Junior. Laparca hilt Cruise del
Speaker 3: Toro with a Spanish fly and then Laparca hit his
Speaker 3: spinning power slam and got the win, and of course
Speaker 3: he danced a thriller afterwards, much to the delight of
Speaker 3: everyone Leo.
Speaker 1: Including including the special Laparca guest sitting there in the
Speaker 1: front row with his young child. Canelo Alvarez was in
Speaker 1: the show dressed like Laparca and uh, I don't know
Speaker 1: if the announcmers reclue in because they completely flipped their
Speaker 1: lids when when Canelo unmasked and the fans went crazy
Speaker 1: because he's from Guadalajari's like a local hero and he's
Speaker 1: just like a you know, a he's a legend, legend,
Speaker 1: but I mean he's he's like a legend. But also
Speaker 1: it's like we if the show was in Bothel and
Speaker 1: I showed up, he's a legend, but also specifically in
Speaker 1: that particular area. Man, they went crazy for that guy
Speaker 1: and he showed up at the end of the show
Speaker 1: as well. So what a week for legendary boxers.
Speaker 8: This was.
Speaker 3: Oh boy. We could get into that later if you
Speaker 3: want as well. We had a I can't I he
Speaker 3: adell Doctor Wagner Junior, I believe taking on Ethan Page.
Speaker 3: These two went right after each other. They've been feuding
Speaker 3: back and forth between NXT Triple A for months now. Eventually,
Speaker 3: Paige put a wrench in his trunks, but he grabbed
Speaker 3: the title belt. The referee Toronts, took the belt from him.
Speaker 3: Page hit Wagner in the stomach with the wrench and
Speaker 3: pinned him with the tights to win the title from
Speaker 3: Doctor Wagner, or so we thought. Instead, mister Iguana ran
Speaker 3: down and ratted him out. He told the ref Torontus
Speaker 3: what happened. The referee started the match. Wagner hit the
Speaker 3: Wagner Driver immediately to win and retain the title.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I realize they got to change some things,
Speaker 1: and I'm not really a fan of the heel ref
Speaker 1: gimmick anyway, but I gotta say pretty disappointed that Illejo
Speaker 1: de Torontes is just like a normal babyface for right now,
Speaker 1: after all those years of him and his father being
Speaker 1: the diabolical heels, it would do nothing but screw the
Speaker 1: baby faces right and left. Now he's just a guy.
Speaker 3: Say he should have he should have not cared at
Speaker 3: all about this, and.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have happen. You know, you're gonna let some
Speaker 1: lizard tell you what to do.
Speaker 3: The next match. I'm actually gonna skip over because we're
Speaker 3: running up on short time here, and I think that
Speaker 3: that Psycho Circus and Wyatt's match the Leaves deserves a
Speaker 3: more time. So we had Laredo Kid defend the Triple
Speaker 3: A Cruiserweight title against Javon Evans and Jack cart Wheel.
Speaker 3: Holly smokes about three minutes in JBL is like I've
Speaker 3: seen twenty moves I've never seen before, and that did
Speaker 3: not stop. Eventually, Laredo Kid retained the title with a
Speaker 3: Moon Salt German suplex on Jack Cartwheel half and half German. Unbelievable,
Speaker 3: much like the rest of the show was. And we
Speaker 3: will get into it after the break.
Speaker 2: You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez
Speaker 2: and Mike simper Beebe on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 3: Wrestling Observer Live back with you on the air Filthy
Speaker 3: Tom Lawler along with his sidekick Brian Alvarez. We were
Speaker 3: talking about the triple A Guerreris d Tetana.
Speaker 1: Show, Gara, Are you sure, yes, I'm positive.
Speaker 3: Okay, But we had not gotten to the most important
Speaker 3: match of that show of the century.
Speaker 1: This should have been on Netflix on Friday night instead
Speaker 1: of that logan that.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what in that fight, the logan Paul
Speaker 3: uh Jake Paul Anthony Joshua fight. I we did indeed
Speaker 3: get exactly what we were going to get, what we
Speaker 3: were presented. We were not sold a false bill of goods. No,
Speaker 3: this match. Actually, I think we were sold a false
Speaker 3: Bill of Goods because I did not expect this. I
Speaker 3: did not expect what we got out of the WYAT
Speaker 3: six against the Psycho Circus. I was so confused going
Speaker 3: into this because earlier in the week they had announced
Speaker 3: this was for the WWE Tag titles.
Speaker 1: Oh they did. They changed it.
Speaker 3: They did, and they had all the guys listed they.
Speaker 1: Had Okay, so I wasn't crazy.
Speaker 3: No, they they they had announced that, and they had
Speaker 3: all all eight guys on the poster, and I was like,
Speaker 3: is this going to be for the belts or two
Speaker 3: of each team gonna battle it out?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they've They've done this a few times because
Speaker 1: at the last at the last Saturday Nights Made event,
Speaker 1: the Javon Leon Slater match was originally gonna be for
Speaker 1: the tag team titles, and then for some reason they
Speaker 1: just changed it. And then here I thought it was
Speaker 1: a tag team match. I thought it was gonna be
Speaker 1: like Psycho Clown and Pagano against Joe Gacy and Loomis
Speaker 1: Dexter Loomis. But then all all of these guys came
Speaker 1: out and so we actually got to see on a
Speaker 1: show promoted by w W and TKO Murder Clown on
Speaker 1: the show, Dave the clown on the show. Every one
Speaker 1: of these clowns participated in this match.
Speaker 3: Oh boy did they ever? This was right up my alley.
Speaker 3: Like the Psycho Circus doesn't show up for the match,
Speaker 3: and Wyatt Six are so angry. They stormed to the
Speaker 3: back where the Psycho Circus has this elaborate funhouse setup.
Speaker 3: Like the Wyatt Six are even They are kind of
Speaker 3: like destrang They're trying to figure out what is going
Speaker 3: on here. They're in the back. Psycho clown lures them
Speaker 3: into an attack in a ball pit, and then it
Speaker 3: just brings down. Mascarita Segrata pops up. He's attacking the
Speaker 3: Wyatts with a kendo stick. Corey calls this match bizarre
Speaker 3: and JBL rightfully corrects me. He says, look, if it was
Speaker 3: more normal, that would be bizarre. They grab a hold Rowan,
Speaker 3: Does I say they? Rowan grabs a hold of pegano?
Speaker 3: The vintner, yes, the wine expert himself, yes, grabs a
Speaker 3: hold of pegano and power bombs him. They said twelve
Speaker 3: feet down I would I would agree probably at least
Speaker 3: twelve feet down through funhouse tables.
Speaker 1: This all this set up, I don't even know any
Speaker 1: power bombed him off of he was just on something
Speaker 1: and Pecana went really far down and then they were like, well,
Speaker 1: that's it for that guy. He ain't coming back. He's dead.
Speaker 3: They're selling it that that is the end of the
Speaker 3: hardcore legend. Pegano Pogano is now being billed as the
Speaker 3: hardcore legend, and why why not? Then Joe Gacy gets
Speaker 3: kissed by the exotico Pipinella Escarlatta, which you want to
Speaker 3: talk about seeing something on a TKO promoted show in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. This seems out of place, but hey,
Speaker 3: we got Pimpy still showing up. She kisses Joe Gasey
Speaker 3: and then the action goes to the ring side as
Speaker 3: they brawl down the ramp. The Wyatts isolated the leader
Speaker 3: Psycho Clown. However, the gigantic murder Clown comes back saves him.
Speaker 3: You know when you say the name murder clown.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you think I love saying it.
Speaker 3: How could somebody possibly encapsulate that? That is? That's like
Speaker 3: a lot to put on somebody, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: that's a lot of pressure. You're a clown and you're
Speaker 3: a murderer. Clown. This guy like, is murder clown.
Speaker 1: That's not even my favorite. You've got Pagano's whose gimmick
Speaker 1: is he's a pagan, hence Pegano. You've got. You've got
Speaker 1: murder clown, who's a murderer, the murder clown. You've got
Speaker 1: psycho clown whose psycho he rips his own face off.
Speaker 1: And then of course you've got Dave, Dave the clown. Dave, Yeah,
Speaker 1: perhaps was sew a fat and he did a dive
Speaker 1: in this match. Everybody did a dive.
Speaker 3: Murder didn't dive off the post to the door. I
Speaker 3: couldn't believe Dave the clown doing that topey and then
Speaker 3: murder clown scales to the top and dives onto everybody
Speaker 3: on the floor. Tom he didn't.
Speaker 1: Everybody rose, only one.
Speaker 3: Die cut that guy off the top, murder clown. He's like,
Speaker 3: I don't know how tall he is. Can you look
Speaker 3: up the stats on this guy? Is he like six
Speaker 3: feet tall a seven ft wide?
Speaker 1: I doubt he's all that tall. He just looks tall
Speaker 1: because everyone else is short.
Speaker 3: He didn't look too short in there with the Vintnor,
Speaker 3: but he looked like he may have been. He had
Speaker 3: more with than ever row ahead height Uh Pegano runs down,
Speaker 3: he makes his comeback, wipes out the Wyatts with the
Speaker 3: kendo sticks. That's murder.
Speaker 1: Murder, by the way, is the big fat one not
Speaker 1: not not Dave, Dave's Dave's husky.
Speaker 3: But he should have been doing a tope ay conhilo
Speaker 3: through the second rope or whatever he did. Psycho Clown
Speaker 3: then proceeded to rip off his own face. Loomis no
Speaker 3: sould it and tried to cut him off, but that
Speaker 3: didn't work. Psycho Clown lifted him up, put him through
Speaker 3: a table, and pinned him. This was awesome, what an act.
Speaker 3: This is the best the Wyats have ever looked. This
Speaker 3: is probably the best the Psycho Circus has ever looked.
Speaker 1: Oh I've never seen a better match.
Speaker 3: But like, all they're gonna do is bring this to
Speaker 3: the states, bring this few to the states. Right now
Speaker 3: they're doing uh the Wyatts and the MFTs, but let's
Speaker 3: be real, come on, the MFTs they have their own aura,
Speaker 3: but they are not the Psycho Circus. We need to
Speaker 3: get the Psycho Circus in there in that SmackDown multiman division.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine Psycho Circus against Phraxium and the MotorCity
Speaker 3: machine Guns or Psycho Circus, the m Psycho Circus versus
Speaker 3: the Vision.
Speaker 1: No. I only want to see the Psycho Circus against
Speaker 1: other teams that are horrible and then like it's like
Speaker 1: reverse synergy. You take two horrible teams and you put
Speaker 1: them together and they magically have an incredible match. I
Speaker 1: gave this a billion stars, and after after two days
Speaker 1: of thinking about it, I would not change that.
Speaker 3: Love it. You may have gone too low.
Speaker 1: Loved this match. I had more fun watching that match
Speaker 1: than I had watching that Javon three way, which was
Speaker 1: a legitimate which was a legitimate four and a half
Speaker 1: star match. Easy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was That was a great match they did.
Speaker 3: They did so much stuff of that match that I
Speaker 3: had never seen before.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this guy here the YouTube chat has
Speaker 1: redeemed themselves. Stu here said, how about the Clowns against
Speaker 1: Dark States?
Speaker 3: Oh please please give it to us. Yes, that is
Speaker 3: exactly what.
Speaker 1: I that's I'm looking forward to.
Speaker 3: I don't want that, I need it.
Speaker 1: Come on the butt Guy against Murder Clown.
Speaker 3: Anyways, Los Toxicis took on an Italian Lulla Ice and
Speaker 3: Fabi Apachi. This was good too.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 3: Fabia a Pachi won the match with a Dragon suplex
Speaker 3: on Lahedra and her team got the win. Dragon Lee
Speaker 3: took on Elvi Kingo and uh the crowd hates Elvi Kingo. Man, Well,
Speaker 3: it may have been a bad finish if if you
Speaker 3: don't like the guy that came out, because a lot
Speaker 3: of people were huge, huge fans of the huge, huge
Speaker 3: man that gave Vikingo the win, and that was Oh Moss,
Speaker 3: the man who won.
Speaker 1: The big not even want dude. It was just like, God,
Speaker 1: what a bad finish. He just comes out and there's
Speaker 1: a ref bump and then a guy hits his move
Speaker 1: and there's no rep I mean, it was like straight
Speaker 1: out of nineteen eighty five, just the most generic run
Speaker 1: in ref bump and then poor Dragon Lee gets hit
Speaker 1: with that uh whatever that is this the Actually he
Speaker 1: went for the six thirty, but he actually hit a
Speaker 1: four to fifty and then Omas has to go get
Speaker 1: the referee and so like he took so long that
Speaker 1: I went back and I started my timer. Dragonly had
Speaker 1: to lay on his back being covered for twenty five seconds.
Speaker 1: Remember when like it was was it Vam Bam Bigelow
Speaker 1: that did the five count, and then I think Big
Speaker 1: Eie did it for a while, and it's like, man,
Speaker 1: you know you really got beat up bat if you're
Speaker 1: down for five seconds, four guys down for twenty five
Speaker 1: seconds before the referee returned to count brutal.
Speaker 3: Well, he did get low blowed and then hit with
Speaker 3: legitimate This is the biggest last ride that's ever been
Speaker 3: done on planet Earth. Like he lifted him up. It
Speaker 3: was like one of those rides where you shoot up
Speaker 3: real fast and then shoot back down. That's exactly what
Speaker 3: Omas did killed dragonly, So I don't have too much
Speaker 3: problem with him staying down. But Dorio and Rodan then
Speaker 3: came out and revealed he is the one behind Vikingo
Speaker 3: and Omas. So Corey signed off on this show by saying,
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six will be long to Luca lebra and
Speaker 3: if you watch this show and great we sid CMLL,
Speaker 3: you'd be hard press to disagree. And I'd be totally, completely,
Speaker 3: one hundred percent fine with that. The show had pretty
Speaker 3: much everything, So go out of your way, I would say,
Speaker 3: go out of your way to watch this two hour,
Speaker 3: forty five minute wrestling show.
Speaker 1: This was this was I thought this was like one
Speaker 1: of those old NXT payd pviews, you know, back when
Speaker 1: Triple H was booking and it was just like five
Speaker 1: fantastic matches. This was This was like that, but also
Speaker 1: wild matches that you would not have seen on an
Speaker 1: old NXT show. This was like that.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 1: That Psycho Circus match was like a UFC one fight.
Speaker 1: Loved it.
Speaker 3: All right, We'll be back with more after the break.
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Speaker 3: Wrestling Observer Live back here with Filthy Tom Lawler and
Speaker 3: Brian Alvarez on the penn ultimate segment of the show.
Speaker 3: So far, we have pretty much only covered the triple A.
Speaker 3: Guerra's Guerra's Guera's a local Mexican native, Yeah, Mexican heritage.
Speaker 1: Half Mexican.
Speaker 3: Okay, there we go. Luckily we have you here to
Speaker 3: correct me. Yes, a little bit of news that we
Speaker 3: could get into here and some some lineups ahead of
Speaker 3: Christmas week before we get into uh collision and SmackDown.
Speaker 1: How about the fact that Dynamite this Wednesday is another
Speaker 1: extended show two and a half hours on Wednesday, is
Speaker 1: it now? Yeah? He can't help himself.
Speaker 3: Look at that. We are gonna get two and a
Speaker 3: half hour filled with Ricochet versus Bandido for the Dynamite
Speaker 3: Diamond Ring by virtue of being the two last men
Speaker 3: standing in last week's qualification Dynamite Diamond Ring Battle Royal,
Speaker 3: we will have Pac versus Jack Perry. In the Continental
Speaker 3: Classic Gold League, Kenoski Takesha, the IWGP Heavyweight Champion, will
Speaker 3: take on Orange Cassidy and the Continental Classic Gold League
Speaker 3: as well, and Roger Strong will take on Mascara Derada
Speaker 3: in I believe that's a Blue League match. I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: and roder Strong and Mescar Derata also in the Continental
Speaker 3: Classic Blue League, Mina shir Kaala will take on Marina
Speaker 3: Shaffir and MJF will also be in action. That is
Speaker 3: on Wednesday at an earlier start time six pm Eastern
Speaker 3: three pm Pacific, the same start time for Christmas Collision,
Speaker 3: which will take place the next day. Both those shows
Speaker 3: were taped over the weekend at the Hammerstein Ball So
Speaker 3: tune in Wednesday and Thursday six pm Eastern at three
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Speaker 1: You know, I realized this is the Continental Classic season,
Speaker 1: and I do like Continental Classic season at the end
Speaker 1: of the year. You know, this is the time of
Speaker 1: year where there's compared to everything else. Not a lot
Speaker 1: going on, even though there is a lot going on
Speaker 1: every day. But I think that next year he needs
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to not have the final,
Speaker 1: the semifinals, like the most important matches taking place on
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, because my guess is these
Speaker 1: shows are going to die.
Speaker 3: The semi finals matches are not on Christmas. Even Christmas
Speaker 3: Day matches are a world's end.
Speaker 1: The last two are of the pay per view, but
Speaker 1: like the important matches to determine, like who is number
Speaker 1: one in the block, who is number two? What are
Speaker 1: the matches going to be on pay per view? These
Speaker 1: are the biggest matches in the tournament, and they're taking
Speaker 1: place on the two least watch shows of the year
Speaker 1: pretty much every year.
Speaker 3: And I've read the spoilers, and this is a case
Speaker 3: in which, like I'm more intrigued after finding out the
Speaker 3: four participants in the semi finals than I am, you
Speaker 3: know otherwise. So it's like this is this would be
Speaker 3: a perfect opportunity to get more more eyes on these shows.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's gonna be tough tough to draw on
Speaker 3: those on Christmas even Christmas Day. A little bit of
Speaker 3: news in the world of New Japan. We have Andra
Speaker 3: de Ledelo being revealed as the new business backer of
Speaker 3: the United Empire. He will be on the Wrestle Kingdom
Speaker 3: Show on January fourth. Brian, what's going on here?
Speaker 1: Well, everyone's been asking and I don't know. But Tony
Speaker 1: Kahan did a call today, one of his usual media calls,
Speaker 1: and he was asked about on raw DA and his
Speaker 1: answer was the usual answer, which is stay tuned a
Speaker 1: W dynamite. So he didn't really have an answer, but
Speaker 1: it's obviously, Uh, he's working Puerto Rico, he's working House
Speaker 1: of Glory, and now he's working New Japan. So I
Speaker 1: would suspect. I mean, this is obviously the case. They're
Speaker 1: allowing him to work outside of the US. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's been clear to work everywhere. We might
Speaker 1: find out here very soon. Maybe he'll show up with
Speaker 1: the pay per view. I wouldn't be surprised if, because
Speaker 1: they haven't gone to court, they were negotiating something. I
Speaker 1: would not be surprised if they negotiated something where you
Speaker 1: can work anywhere you want except AEW during this one
Speaker 1: year whatever. Because he did sign the contract. The clause
Speaker 1: is in the contract. You know whether it would hold
Speaker 1: up in quart or not is another matter entirely. I
Speaker 1: don't think he wants to go to court because you're
Speaker 1: gonna go to court with TKO and it's gonna cost
Speaker 1: an incredible amount of money. So he may have just
Speaker 1: done a deal where they made an agreement that you
Speaker 1: can't go to aw you can't go to wherever. But
Speaker 1: if you want to work New Japan, INDI's Mexico, Puerto Rico,
Speaker 1: go for it.
Speaker 3: It ain't that hard to beat tk O in court.
Speaker 3: I did it.
Speaker 1: You know how long it took for you to beat
Speaker 1: TK in court and that wu the money that costs.
Speaker 3: I also did virtually nothing, yes, actually absolutely nothing besides
Speaker 3: provide my information anyways. In other news, ahead of Wressell
Speaker 3: Kingdom LP, his TV title Open Challenge has already been
Speaker 3: accepted for Wressell Kingdom as today, after he defeated Tagucci
Speaker 3: to retain his title, Santa Claus showed up with a
Speaker 3: present gave it to him. It was a picture of
Speaker 3: DDT's Chris Brooks. Chris Brooks then attacked LP. He attacked
Speaker 3: Santa He attacked Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer. He will be.
Speaker 1: Stagan to deliver presence without Rudolph. These are serious questions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And in his second last match, Tanahashi defeated kose
Speaker 3: Fujita with two high fly flows ahead of his main
Speaker 3: event in front of fifty thousand fans against Kazuchika Okada
Speaker 3: at the Tokyo Dome.
Speaker 1: Who's gonna win this match?
Speaker 3: Tom Okada? I think so, I do believe so, yes, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Jeremy Finestone sent me the stats on Tanahashi and with
Speaker 1: the exception of he did a job for utoh Ice
Speaker 1: and I think he did one other job as well,
Speaker 1: But other than that, through like the entire World Tag League,
Speaker 1: all of his other matches he's had, he has only
Speaker 1: done two jobs where he has actually took in the
Speaker 1: pinfall in the last two months, long before Okada was
Speaker 1: even announced as his opponent. So this is not like
Speaker 1: a John Cena thing where he's like putting people over
Speaker 1: on the way out. And you got to remember other
Speaker 1: guys in New Japan, like who did Okada put over
Speaker 1: on the way out and he was actually leaving the
Speaker 1: company to go to like another company.
Speaker 3: He actively put no one over but himself. Yes, it's
Speaker 3: like Japan and Noah, the idea companies that beat their aces.
Speaker 1: Yes, so like the idea that he can't win or
Speaker 1: like they don't do this or whatever. Dude, that's what
Speaker 1: New Japan does when guys are on the way out,
Speaker 1: is they win. So I would not be the least
Speaker 1: bit surprised if you won that last match.
Speaker 3: Well, let's get into uh I disagree, but let's get
Speaker 3: to a few of the highlights from the shows this weekend.
Speaker 3: Was there anything that stood out to you from SmackDown?
Speaker 3: Besides of course whatever Ilia dragonof did with Carmelo Hayes
Speaker 3: against diy.
Speaker 1: That was the most nothing happened in show, just like
Speaker 1: nothing happened on it. It was like it was like
Speaker 1: a holiday show, like we show up, we do some stuff.
Speaker 1: If it felt like remember when it sucked when it
Speaker 1: was three hours long.
Speaker 3: And then yeah, and then it's about to be three
Speaker 3: hours long.
Speaker 1: Well, and then it moved back to two hours and
Speaker 1: it and we thought it was gonna immediately be better,
Speaker 1: but it still sucked for like a few months, and
Speaker 1: then for like two months it got kind of pretty good.
Speaker 1: The last two months or so, well, now it's starting
Speaker 1: to suck again. So I think they're getting ready for
Speaker 1: that three hours. I think they're gonna bring up some
Speaker 1: people from NXT, but my god, this show is just
Speaker 1: nothing happened on this show.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, Damian Priest and Alistair Black are still feuding.
Speaker 1: They're still fler.
Speaker 3: Black laid Damian Priest out after they did an opening
Speaker 3: segment in front of the crowd. The Kabooki Warriors looked
Speaker 3: like total losers against Naya Jackson Lash Legend. They got
Speaker 3: beat up, they lost. They are the tag champions. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's they were pinned. They were pinned and thrown away
Speaker 3: like nothing. And then Charlotte and Alexa ran down, ran
Speaker 3: off Naya and Lash and then held the belts up
Speaker 3: like you why would you think that the kabok Warriors
Speaker 3: said any chance of retaining these titles against any of
Speaker 3: these teams after this.
Speaker 1: I watched that match, I watched the aftermath, I listened
Speaker 1: to the commentators, I watched the interviews before and after,
Speaker 1: and it was all of a sudden At one point,
Speaker 1: I just realized, oh my god, the Kabuki Warriors are
Speaker 1: the tag team champions, like they lost this match, and
Speaker 1: the announcers did not even make a mention of the
Speaker 1: fact that they just beat the tag team champions. They
Speaker 1: didn't mention they.
Speaker 3: Should be, didn't make a big enough kill about it.
Speaker 1: No, it was like nothing. It was just like another
Speaker 1: match on the show, and like, apparently the Kabuki Warriors
Speaker 1: are babyfaces. Now I missed that babyface turn, but I
Speaker 1: mean Oscar did a total babyface comeback. Hyrie's working babyface
Speaker 1: and Peril. I mean it was weird, dude, Like every
Speaker 1: match on the show was heel versus heel, except now
Speaker 1: the heels were like babyfaces.
Speaker 3: Well, Elli, you're dragging off at Carmelo Hayes or baby faces.
Speaker 1: Okay, that was the one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they are kind of feuding because they're well
Speaker 3: they are they are feuding.
Speaker 1: They are few and their two baby faces feuding with
Speaker 1: each other. And then we had two women's matches that
Speaker 1: were healed versus heel, and then the main event. I
Speaker 1: think the Wyats are actually supposed to be heels.
Speaker 3: No, the Wyatts are babyfaces? Are you sure?
Speaker 1: Because we start remember we were watching this show and
Speaker 1: they were like cutting promos on baby faces and healed promos,
Speaker 1: and we were like, I think they're actually heels.
Speaker 3: No, I think they're their heels in Triple Are it
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. And actually after that last match, their baby
Speaker 3: Faces and Triple A if you ask me, too so.
Speaker 3: But they defended the tag titles against jac Matteo and
Speaker 3: Tongala and it had the dirt worst finish ever, made
Speaker 3: me so angry. They just all started brawling. Everybody got
Speaker 3: involved and they just brawled. They brawled forever. The brawling
Speaker 3: was good, the finish to the match was horrific. And
Speaker 3: that that was SmackDown. Well, no, that was not SmackDown
Speaker 3: because we also had Cody roads breaking entering it. Drew
Speaker 3: Backatire's house, the world champion, Yes, broke into his house.
Speaker 1: Well, this was revenge for when Drew McIntyre broke into
Speaker 1: his bus or whatever. Which either way, did we miss
Speaker 1: an episode of SmackDown, because they keep talking about how
Speaker 1: Drew broke into Cody's bus or whatever. I don't remember
Speaker 1: seeing this anywhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he missed a show. He broke into his
Speaker 3: bus and beat him up and left him laying But
Speaker 3: you would be hard remiss to remember it because Cody
Speaker 3: was back later in the show beating Drew up. That's
Speaker 3: when he laid him out and cut the promo on
Speaker 3: top of the table. That was awesome. I think I
Speaker 3: might where he said war Games was his birthright. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I may have been a fantastic promo. And we had
Speaker 3: aw Collision.
Speaker 1: Which imagine that being your birthright war Games.
Speaker 3: I mean mine is like shoeing horses, So I mean
Speaker 3: maybe I'd take war Games. Uh, Collision. I thought Collision
Speaker 3: was great too because it was only an hour.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't think it was a great show.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a kind of above average. But
Speaker 1: I wasn't blown away by either of the Cunninal Classic
Speaker 1: matches I thought.
Speaker 3: I thought Kevin Knight and Kazutrica Ocada was good, but
Speaker 3: it was a bizarre match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because o'cada was like doing the most lazy I mean,
Speaker 1: Kyle Lee.
Speaker 3: They just went fifty to fifty and then Kevin Knight
Speaker 3: kept countering the rain Maker. Okada hit to catch it
Speaker 3: as wheel barrow German, which they didn't really even talk
Speaker 3: about on commentary, but he hit that right before he
Speaker 3: went to the rain Maker and then was countered and
Speaker 3: pinned by Kevin Knight in the biggest win of his life.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 3: And yeah, like Speedball and jungle Jack, Perry was good,
Speaker 3: but the crowd liked both guys that it just never
Speaker 3: hit second gear. You know, the crowd was into the moves,
Speaker 3: but just.
Speaker 1: Because everybody was waiting for Speedball to make a comeback,
Speaker 1: and he just kept getting cut off and cut off
Speaker 1: and cut off and cut off and cut and then
Speaker 1: he was pinned.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Eddie Kingston squashed Nathan Cruz. And actually, what I
Speaker 3: thought was the best thing on the show was Mercedes
Speaker 3: Manet defending the Undisputed RevPro Women's title against Alex Windsor,
Speaker 3: and they wed kind of like fifty to fifty. They
Speaker 3: traded submission holds. Windsor hit a blue thunder bomb off
Speaker 3: the second almost got the win. Mercedes hit the backstabber
Speaker 3: locked on the cross face, but Windsor reversed it, and
Speaker 3: they went through a series of reversals that culminated in
Speaker 3: Alex Windsor trapping the arm, sticking Mercedes to her back,
Speaker 3: getting the three count, and we have a new Undisputed
Speaker 3: RevPro Women's title. Mercedes Manet has lost another one of
Speaker 3: her belts and cried in despair, much like we will
Speaker 3: do when we come back. In the final segment.
Speaker 2: You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez
Speaker 2: and Mike Simpervivi on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.
Speaker 3: Back here on Wrestling Observer Live for the final segment
Speaker 3: of the show. So sad to be leaving you guys
Speaker 3: only after an hour here with you today, But we
Speaker 3: must move on a little bit of clarification there right
Speaker 3: when we went to commercial. Producer Dom gave me a
Speaker 3: little heads up there as I was talking about Mercedes
Speaker 3: Monette losing her titles. Dom, are you there? Can you
Speaker 3: tell the people what you told me? I am yeah.
Speaker 1: You said she lost another one of her belts, and
Speaker 1: I corrected you. She lost one title, but two belts.
Speaker 3: One title but two belts of course, the undisputed rev
Speaker 3: Pro Woman's title and I believe the Queen of Southside
Speaker 3: Wrestling title. Those two are one championship represented by two
Speaker 3: belts which now are in possession of Alex Windsor So.
Speaker 3: As I said, you know, coming to a close today,
Speaker 3: we must move on. But before we get to the
Speaker 3: show tomorrow, there will be Monday Night Raw taking place tonight.
Speaker 3: This was filmed recorded taped last Friday along with SmackDown,
Speaker 3: which I believe was live, and then they will be
Speaker 3: doing a taping. I believe they've already taped the show
Speaker 3: for this Friday, but it could be wrong. Raw Tonight
Speaker 3: we'll have Riha Ripley taking on Osaka, so we will
Speaker 3: find out what corner Osca stands in if she is
Speaker 3: indeed back to being a babyface. Javan Evans takes on
Speaker 3: Reo Americano Bailey against Roxane Perez, and you will also
Speaker 3: see Austin Thurrey and Bronson Reed taking on CM Punk
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