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Speaker 2: It's stay or go. Okay, Whitney, good morning, how you

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Speaker 2: doing Whitney?

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Speaker 3: Hi?

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Speaker 2: There she is, Hi Whitney, Welcome to the program. What's

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Speaker 2: going on with this guy? You've been dating him for

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Speaker 2: two months? I act like I don't know. I read

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Speaker 2: the whole email, but let's pretend like I don't know. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so you've been dating this guy for two months. You

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Speaker 2: have yet to DTR which I'm not sure if that's

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Speaker 2: de termined, that people still use any more, that the

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Speaker 2: youth still moving us any more. But you've yet to

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Speaker 2: determine the relationship, define the relationship after two months? But

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Speaker 2: where's the issue.

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Speaker 4: Well, so, First of all, there's no where flags and

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Speaker 4: he's really good at communicating. Okay, I do appreciate that. However,

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Speaker 4: he did tell me this week that he's going to

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Speaker 4: be you know, quote unquote going dark for two weeks

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Speaker 4: because he's going on a trip to Europe with his sister.

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Speaker 4: And you know, he's had this put trip planned for

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Speaker 4: like months before we even met, Okay, and you know,

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Speaker 4: they're thing in hostels and you know, obviously he doesn't

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Speaker 4: know if or when you'll have service, And I get that, and.

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Speaker 2: He really, where is he going? Is he going to

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Speaker 2: like war torn Russia? Like, where where is he going?

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Speaker 5: No, they're going I think they're going.

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Speaker 2: I'm like like Paris, and you know, progue. Then my

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Speaker 2: understanding is that there's Wi Fi and the and the

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Speaker 2: interwebs and phone and you know, cellular service.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know. Okay, I'm sorry. Continue.

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Speaker 2: So, so he's going on a trip with his sister

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Speaker 2: for two weeks and he's telling you ahead of time,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to be in communication with you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he wants to go off the grid

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Speaker 4: and like really enjoy it and decompress, which, honestly, like

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Speaker 4: I really appreciate him.

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Speaker 1: Telling me that way.

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Speaker 4: I'm not like, oh no, did I do something wrong?

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Speaker 1: Where'd he go?

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Speaker 5: You know, like I'd much rather have.

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Speaker 1: You met his sister?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 1: Is this legit? Is he definitely going with his sister.

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Speaker 5: I haven't met her yet, but you know, they facetimed.

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Speaker 4: They talk about this trip all the time, So like,

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Speaker 4: I know that I believe that part.

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Speaker 5: Okay, and honestly, like I believe the whole thing until

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Speaker 5: you know, I talk to my friends about it, and

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Speaker 5: they think it's kind of bs and they don't really

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Speaker 6: They're like, we don't buy it.

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Speaker 1: I could see this two ways.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if he's if he's take some other woman

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Speaker 2: on this trip to wherever he's going. I mean, trust me,

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Speaker 2: people who are people who are very much in relationships

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Speaker 2: have managed to pull off a whole lot more in

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Speaker 2: unable to text with you or communicate with you if

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Speaker 2: this was some sort of you know, the trip he

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Speaker 2: like he wouldn't have to call his shot in this way,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, Hey, I'm not going

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Speaker 2: because I'm, you know, off doing something with someone else.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like that, that's too obvious.

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Speaker 1: It's too obvious to me. What like, how many people

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Speaker 1: do you know? The cheap married people do this?

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Speaker 2: Married people have full on relationships with other people using

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Speaker 2: the very same phone and the very same hands that

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Speaker 2: it's very possible. And you know me, I'm not I'm

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Speaker 2: But I mean, this could be. But I also don't

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Speaker 2: know why in twenty twenty five, we're not just like

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Speaker 2: and again to say hey, I'm okay, I'm here having

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Speaker 2: a good time. You know what about social media? Is

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Speaker 1: Usually?

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Speaker 5: No, he's got a big coaster really not.

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Speaker 1: So I think this is your little friend's meddling.

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Speaker 2: I think this is your little friends during this up

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Speaker 2: because it's very possible that this guy wants to be

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Speaker 2: present on his trip as sister.

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Speaker 1: I mean hello, like it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if my sister when I was younger,

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Speaker 2: if my sister had been you know, not in a

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Speaker 2: relationship and didn't have kids, I don't know, I could

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Speaker 2: see it wheld we would travel.

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Speaker 7: Yes, but you you could also talk to other people,

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Speaker 7: like why do you need to like go off the

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys communicate regularly? Like is it you? Are

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Speaker 1: you always in communication with me? With with this guy?

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Speaker 4: I mean it's not every day.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's not no coffee bless you, whatever that was.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It would be one thing if it were like you

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be on planes and I'm gonna be you know,

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Speaker 2: less reachable, so we're not going to have, you know,

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Speaker 2: hourly communication in a way that we typically do, and

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Speaker 2: just just know that that that's because we're doing stuff.

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Speaker 2: Because if I'm on vacation and I am just ripping

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Speaker 2: out text messages to someone else, I'll think that's not

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Speaker 2: I'm not present, I'm not enjoying what I'm doing, you

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Speaker 2: Eight five, five, five nine one one oh three five

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Speaker 2: You know, just what do you think when you hear

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Speaker 2: Whitney talking about this guy to.

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Speaker 1: My snow red flags.

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Speaker 2: He's going out of town with his sister and he's

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Speaker 2: basically saying he's going to go dark for two weeks.

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Speaker 2: I think if he were cheating, he could still pull

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Speaker 6: What what?

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're just staring at me? But I

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Speaker 1: don't what does that mean?

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Speaker 3: I don't feel like being called insecure today. So I

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Speaker 3: was actually just gonna let the people speak. But you're

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Speaker 3: not going to nowhere for two weeks, they me, and

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Speaker 3: I can't talk to you unless you're going to say

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Speaker 3: the country is your name military, Mike?

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Speaker 8: If not.

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Speaker 2: That's true, I mean Shelley's husband does this all the time.

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Speaker 2: Granted this because he's like it has top secret clearances

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Speaker 2: and we're not supposed to know where he is, right, I.

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Speaker 1: Guess I just don't know what sound this man. This

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Speaker 1: is the second day in a row.

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Speaker 2: We're automatically going to the worst possible outcome, and I

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Speaker 2: don't I think it's a little weird, but I think

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Speaker 2: that you know, twenty years ago or fifteen years ago,

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Speaker 2: this would have been the norm. You know, you wouldn't

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Speaker 2: have necessarily had communication in your pocket twenty four to seven,

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Speaker 8: Use the horses too.

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Speaker 2: We've evolved to a new standard where you're supposed to

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Speaker 2: be in constant communication with everyone whenever they want. And

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Speaker 2: I don't necessarily think it's unfair to say, Hey, I'm

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Speaker 2: stepping back for a minute because I'm I'm going on

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Speaker 2: this trip and it's it's a special thing and I

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Speaker 2: want to be present for it.

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Speaker 1: None of you are buying that. No, no, none of you.

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Speaker 1: Two weeks you cannot speak to me.

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Speaker 2: Did he say that? Did he say you will not

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Speaker 2: hear from me for two weeks? Or did he say

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Speaker 2: that it's going to be just a whole lot lass.

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Speaker 4: No, he just wanted to like definitely let me know

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Speaker 4: that's gonna be a lot less.

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Speaker 1: He's gone, And you don't even talk every day?

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Speaker 8: What does that mean?

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Speaker 2: But you don't even talk every day and you're in

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Speaker 2: a relationship for two months? I mean again, like, so,

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Speaker 2: I guess I don't know why it's a big deal

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I.

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Speaker 4: Mean like two weeks. Okay, we talk like almost every

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Speaker 4: day and we always text good night.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so yes, there is some kind.

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Speaker 4: Of communication every day. I guess it's just not constant.

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Speaker 2: I mean, is there any I don't know how to

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Speaker 2: how to do this without looking paranoid or like you

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Speaker 2: don't trust him? But is there a way to meet

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Speaker 4: Local And I've like said hi on FaceTime, like when.

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Speaker 8: I'm over his house, like are he going on vacation?

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Speaker 8: Would another woman?

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Speaker 1: No, he's not.

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Speaker 8: Just you go get you another man, girl? And then

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Speaker 8: y'all link up when you get back.

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Speaker 2: He's not doing that, like again, I you know, because

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Speaker 2: because cheaters cheaters. I mean, it's people have had multiple

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Speaker 2: concurrent relationships right under people's nose.

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Speaker 7: You're better at it. I've seen really dumb, obvious crimes

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Speaker 7: from sure.

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Speaker 2: But what I mean is he doesn't have to go, hey,

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Speaker 2: heads up, I'm going on a trip with my sister

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Speaker 2: and you can't meet her, nor can you communicate with

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Speaker 2: me before, right, I don't. I don't think I would

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Speaker 2: go that far. I think I would just say I'm

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Speaker 2: one on a trip and then if you got mad

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Speaker 2: at me because I wasn't as responsive because I'm doing

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Speaker 2: some other girl, then I would be like, well, I

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Speaker 2: don't know, sorry, I didn't have Wi Fi, like I'm

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Speaker 2: in the.

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Speaker 1: Middle of nowhere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just I think there's a way

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Speaker 2: to do this without calling your shot.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 10: They also don't really talk a lot, it sounds like,

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Speaker 10: which is another red flag.

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Speaker 8: She says. We know we've time.

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Speaker 1: We almost talk every day.

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Speaker 11: The man that you lie with, you almost talk every

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Speaker 11: day for two months and maybe by the way, Whitney,

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Speaker 11: have you had any issue with the fact, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Is it not enough for you?

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Speaker 9: So she's it's the perfect time, like we've been like

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Speaker 5: About where we were.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, let me take some phone calls on this,

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Speaker 1: And I think you'll know.

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Speaker 2: Pretty quickly when he gets back, by the way, I

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Speaker 2: I think I feel like you'll sense that. But I

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Speaker 8: I would just date. Oh God, do you say hello?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 7: Thank you, Whitney, have a good day when you ring?

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Speaker 1: Your advice is all over the place.

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Speaker 7: Is it not a red flag that they don't talk

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Speaker 8: Though I do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But see, you could say that, except I just

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Speaker 8: Because she's just covering her feelings.

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Speaker 2: No, you have to, so let's not take people their

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Speaker 10: You're dating like like boyfriend girlfriend, not like casual like hookups,

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Speaker 8: I'm talking about dating boyf girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: You don't talk to me just to say hey.

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Speaker 8: What's up?

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Speaker 2: But again, that's what you need. I just asked her,

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Speaker 2: she's maybe she's not. Maybe maybe that's not what she requires. Okay, Hey, Jessica, Hi, Jessica, there.

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Speaker 12: Go, Oh, definitely go. I feel like she's in the

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Speaker 12: is that he is, even though she knows it's not.

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Speaker 6: I feel like she's the other.

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Speaker 1: Woman, I will say, Jessica.

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Speaker 2: And the part of this that we and someone texted

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Speaker 1: He has every right to do what he wants.

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Speaker 8: He's on vacation with his wife and kids.

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Speaker 12: Oh god, that means he's definitely going with another woman.

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Speaker 12: I kind of went through a situation, like they know.

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Speaker 12: They say people go through things, but you don't have to.

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Speaker 12: That's what I know her.

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Speaker 2: You know he is going with another woman. Yeah, Jessica,

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Speaker 2: you have a good day. I love you, guys.

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 2: I just I don't. I don't know, Amber High, I

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Speaker 6: Awting why it's only two weeks. If it's really a

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Speaker 6: But I don't think it's that big of issue, especially

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Speaker 2: I do think I do think it's interesting that the whole,

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Speaker 1: But I mean, what is the appropriates?

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Speaker 2: I mean, they don't talk every day, so is it

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Speaker 2: I mean, is this is it a slow burn? Is this?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what it is. It is strange,

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Speaker 2: But then again, he wouldn't have to lie to her.

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Speaker 2: You know, he wouldn't have to say anything. They're not together.

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Speaker 3: Me and Lats today said chicks all the time. You

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Speaker 3: don't let you, you don't let your SATCHI know she is

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Speaker 1: Okay, ever, thank you, You're right, have a.

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Speaker 6: Good day this two weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little.

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Speaker 2: Strange, but I'm.

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Speaker 1: Not jumping to immediately. You know this other stuff.

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Speaker 7: You're courting me, like write letters, get what's app send

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Speaker 7: a carrier pigeon, let me know you miss me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's fair, and it's.

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Speaker 8: Too he would.

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Speaker 10: And honestly, if you were dating a girl and she

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Speaker 10: told you I'm going to Europe with my brother for

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Speaker 1: You would be okay with that.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't love it, But I guess I'm not necessarily

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Speaker 2: going to all of this these other things. Hey, Crystal,

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Speaker 2: good morning. So I gotta wake up now, you say, okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm await, So go right ahead.

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Speaker 6: Tell them this morning, did you congress on your engagement?

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Speaker 6: Thank you? You can play this too way, Honey. You

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Speaker 6: need to find out for him if something happens on

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Speaker 6: the trip, who does he contact?

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Speaker 2: I mean, what do you mean it's mom? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You mean who's these emergency contact? They're not in a relationship, Crystal.

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Speaker 6: She said they've been dating too much, but they haven't.

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Speaker 2: Then she did say that, but they have not defined

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Speaker 2: it's that part of it.

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Speaker 1: I guess. I wonder what's up with that? Yeah, Fred,

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Speaker 1: once you get the good of this.

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Speaker 6: So no, no, no, two weeks?

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Speaker 2: So what would you expect every day he needs to

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Speaker 1: He's gone, No, who doesn't need to every day?

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Speaker 6: I know, I get your own vacation, have fun on

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Speaker 6: your vacation. But you're not going to say you're going dark?

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Speaker 6: Two week?

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Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, thank you? Crystal. Hey, I hear you

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Speaker 2: have a good day. You asked me if I would

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Speaker 2: like it. I wouldn't like it, But I again, how

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Speaker 2: do we know based on what little information we have

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Speaker 2: that he's absolutely lying and he's cheating and all these things.

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Speaker 1: This, this is how this happens.

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Speaker 2: Is we're the little friends here and we're in We

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Speaker 2: have no idea what we're talking about it. We're injecting

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Speaker 10: Listen, we live in twenty twenty five, Like we said,

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Speaker 10: what's app this that there's wine down time when you're

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Speaker 10: you're doing your own thing.

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Speaker 8: Like you can call her.

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Speaker 2: It would be easy enough to drop a text every

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Speaker 2: now and again. I agree, I agree. I do you agree?

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Speaker 1: So I'm in the Vedic.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, I'm praying for you with my mistress. Yeah. Carolina, Hi, Hi, Hi,

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Speaker 2: good morning. Just to recap here, this woman's been dating

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Speaker 2: define the relationship she has. She indicated on her own

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Speaker 2: no red flags about this guy. But he's going on

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts.

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Speaker 8: Definitely stay.

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Speaker 13: I think that unless she sees other red flags, no

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Speaker 13: reason to be alarmed. Once it's something similar many years ago,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or booking a flight and imagine, you know, ended

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Speaker 13: I've only been dating for two months. I would say

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Speaker 13: that's also a little I don't want to go on

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Speaker 1: And their sister.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I get that too, a wife, Yeah, Carolina,

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Speaker 2: thank you, have a good day.

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Speaker 2: There are definitely holes in this and it definitely is

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Speaker 2: a little strange, But I guess I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 2: why is he You're.

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Speaker 3: A good person and you give the benefit of the doubt,

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Speaker 3: not always. I'll though you would not go for this.

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Speaker 3: I mean again, after two months it's like well,