1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 2: Fourteen hours up, fourteen hours down. This is the final 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: hour of the week. We appreciate all of you who 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: been hanging out with us for all week long. Encourage 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: you to go subscribe to the podcast. You can search 7 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: out my name, Clay Travis, you can search out Buck 8 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: Sexton's name. You can also go download the iHeartRadio app 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: and you can listen to us all over the country 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,159 Speaker 2: wherever you may be, indeed around the world. As we 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: come into the fall and people start to maybe start 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: to make a little bit of plans for Thanksgiving and Christmas, 13 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 2: and you're looking ahead and believe it or not, it's 14 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: going to be here before too long. In fact, we are, 15 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: as we were talking about earlier in the show, exactly 16 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 2: four months from the Iowa caucuses, and Donald Trump has 17 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: opened up, according to Fox News, the biggest most substantial 18 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: lead of the primary season so far. We've been discussing 19 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: what the impact of that might be, and so far, Buck, 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: there may be more drama, interestingly on the Democrat side 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: of the Ledger right now than there is on the 22 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 2: Republican side. Now Trump obviously is a one man drama machine. 23 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: So there always are a lot of different stories, and 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 2: we got a ton of different candidates running, and so 25 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: there have been a lot of stories on the Republican side, 26 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 2: but I would say this week the Democrat side has 27 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,639 Speaker 2: been the one with turmoil. And it's not just Joe Biden, 28 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: it's also Kamala Harris. And I want to play just 29 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: a few of these cuts because there are a lot 30 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: of prominent Democrats that are not saying that they think 31 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 2: Kamala Harris is a good choice. A couple days ago, 32 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi, this was with Anderson Cooper on CNN. I 33 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: want to refresh it for all of you out there. 34 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: She was directly asked, is Kamala Harris the right choice 35 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: at VP? Listen to her answer, the. 36 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: Best running mate for this president? 37 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 4: He thinks so, and that's what matters. And by the way, 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 4: she's very politically astute. I don't think people give her 39 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 4: enough credit. She's of course values based, consistent with the 40 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 4: president's values in the rest and people don't understand she's 41 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 4: politically so to why would she be vice president? She 42 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 4: were not. People shouldn't underestimate what Colonel harsh brings to 43 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 4: the table. Do you think she is the best running mate? 44 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 4: She's the vice president of the United States, So people 45 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 4: say to me, well, why isn't she doing. 46 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 5: This or that? 47 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 4: Because she's the vice president. That's the description. 48 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: Okay, So Nancy Pelosi is smart, Buck, She's good at 49 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: answering questions, a pretty easy question. 50 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 5: She's good at not answering questions to which we hear. 51 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: I mean, Buck, if you were going to go to 52 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: a wedding and somebody said, hey, do you think that 53 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: this is a good match? Is this husband or this wife? 54 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: Is that a good selection? And your response was he 55 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: thinks so is that's that's a pretty good shot at 56 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: the bride or the groom. When you can be like, yeah, 57 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: she's great, Yeah he's great if somebody says he thinks so. 58 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 6: Now. 59 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: This is also Jamie Raskin, who is very high up 60 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: in the House leadership as well active speaker. 61 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: All the time. 62 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 2: He was also asked on CNN is Kamala Harris the 63 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: right choice for VP? 64 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: He said this, There didn't seem to be anything wrong 65 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: with that answer. 66 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: You are doing what Speaker Pelosi did, which is not 67 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: answering the question. Do you think Kamala Harris is the 68 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: best running made for President Biden. Well, obviously she gave 69 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: the right answer. 70 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: That's President Biden's choice. It's just a simple question. 71 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: Do you think Kamala Harris is the best running made 72 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: for President Biden? You've said she's excellent. That's farther than 73 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: Speaker Pelosi went. Do you think Kamala Harris is the 74 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: best running made for President Biden? 75 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 6: Yes? 76 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 4: Or no? I mean, but I don't know what else 77 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 4: I can say other than she. 78 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: You can say yes, excellent and an excellent advice. 79 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 3: Say yes, you can say yes, I think Kamala Harris 80 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: is the best vice president and the best running mate 81 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 3: for president. 82 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: But you might be a stronger vice presidential running mate 83 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: than her, or me or anybody else. 84 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 5: Wait, what did that even mean at the end that 85 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 5: that was well, that's a shot at her too, But 86 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 5: why won't they just say yes? 87 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 6: Buck? 88 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 5: Well, see, this is where I think that they're still 89 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 5: a like. It's like they're waiting to get the orders 90 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 5: from the deer leader on this one. You know, they're 91 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 5: not really sure Pelosi knows that if she says yeah, 92 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 5: she's amazing, And as we discussed, we're reading Tea leaves here. 93 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 5: I don't think Nancy Pelosi likes Kamala Harris. Yes, you 94 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 5: don't think so either. We don't think she likes We 95 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 5: just don't think she likes her. And when people have 96 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 5: egos this big, they will put whether they like someone 97 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 5: or not ahead of what they think is best for 98 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 5: their party, in this case obviously the Democrat Party. So 99 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 5: what's going on here? I think that there is a 100 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 5: thought out there right now that what that Here's what 101 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 5: I think the Democrats would like to do, because I've 102 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 5: been mulling this over a lot, because as you know, 103 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 5: I have been on Biden's going to be the nominee. 104 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 5: I have not wavered for that for a day. But 105 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 5: clearly they got to come up with something here because 106 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 5: the age issue, and no one thinks he's going to 107 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 5: make it through a second term as president, like I don't. 108 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 5: That's another poll you should see if Biden were to win. 109 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 5: I'm not saying he will. If Biden were to win, 110 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 5: would he make it through another four years? I think 111 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 5: a lot of people would say no. So with that 112 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 5: in mind, you would think you will. With that in mind, 113 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 5: what is the plan? The obvious rejoinder from a lot 114 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 5: of people be it's Kamala Harris. I think they're trying 115 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 5: to figure out, is there a way we could artfully, 116 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 5: perhaps gently move aside Kamala as the VP in this 117 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 5: process and to someone else. 118 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: In Biden because you would then, yes. 119 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 5: Put someone else on the ticket. Now people would say, oh, 120 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 5: you can't. You can't do that with Gavin Newsom. But 121 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 5: if you put a I think the Democrats would have 122 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 5: to find another minority female candidate, yes, and Kamala could 123 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 5: come up. And again, I don't think that this is 124 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 5: going to happen, but I if you hear why they're hesitating, 125 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 5: there are my bottom line here. I think they're considering 126 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 5: a way to do this because they got to do 127 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 5: something and they don't have other good options. 128 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: And it would be. 129 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 5: How do we get Kamala to say, oh, I'm going 130 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 5: to focus, I'm gonna you know, run for something or other, 131 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 5: I don't know whatever, and have somebody take her spot 132 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 5: for term two of Biden. That's what I think they 133 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 5: would like to figure out how to do. I don't 134 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 5: know if they can get there though. 135 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: That's why the talk was that they might put her 136 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,799 Speaker 2: on the Supreme Court instead of Katanji Brown Jackson because 137 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: Biden had said we're going to put a black woman 138 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: on the Supreme Court, and you could have put Kamala 139 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: Harris on. It seemed like she didn't want that job. 140 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: And here we make fun of the view a lot 141 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: because it's the dumbest show on television. 142 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 5: We're glad it exists. 143 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: Though, Yes, Sonny Houston, I don't know that I've ever 144 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: said this before. She's actually one hundred percent right with 145 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: this take. Listen to what she said Buck about the 146 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: idea of replacing Kamala. 147 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 7: Over the past five elections where you've had a Democrat 148 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 7: win they needed the black vote, Ninety one percent of 149 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 7: African Americans voted for Biden and will continue to vote 150 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 7: for Biden if Kamala. 151 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 4: Is his running mate. 152 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 7: I would be very careful President Biden about getting rid 153 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 7: of Kamala Harris, because we will not support you. Wait, wait, no, no, 154 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 7: your opinion is valid and beautiful in all of that. 155 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 6: But when was the last time you saw anybody get. 156 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 4: Rid of nobody does. 157 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 7: If Biden gets rid of Kamala Harris and inserts someone else, 158 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 7: he will lose the black vote. 159 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, Now this is interesting yeah, I think that 160 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 5: she is correct act except for if they were able 161 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 5: to come up with let's say, you know, I don't know. 162 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: Like Karen bas I think. 163 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 5: I was gonna say, I don't know if Stacy Abrams 164 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 5: has quite the same you would if you were, if 165 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 5: you're looking at this as a Democrat political strategist, the 166 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 5: only way you could do this would be to replace 167 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 5: Kamala Harris as VP with a black female leader, politician, 168 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 5: et cetera, who polls better within the Democrat Party and 169 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 5: would bring a little bit more sturdiness and confidence in 170 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 5: the future of a Biden ticket, Right, that's the only 171 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 5: way can they Can they figure that out? Can they 172 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 5: do that? You can tell why is the view talking 173 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 5: about this? 174 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: Everybody? 175 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 5: We're sensing this to the power players the Democrat Party, 176 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 5: there are clearly discussions going on about we got to 177 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 5: think of something, We got to do a game change, 178 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 5: if you will. They go back to the two thousand 179 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 5: and eight eightbo movie, right when they when they went 180 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 5: with Sarah Palin with with John McCain. They thought they'd 181 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 5: mix something up there. I think that they're talking about 182 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 5: it now. That's not the same thing as saying it'll happen. 183 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 5: But I mean, I didn't even know about that clip. 184 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 5: That's funny that I'm just I was basing it on 185 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 5: the Pelosi and some of the other things that we've seen. 186 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 5: They I think that the belief here is if people, 187 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 5: if enough Democrats and moderates are comfortable with the VP 188 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 5: choice under Biden, his age becomes less of an issue. 189 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 5: Therefore Biden can still safely be the guy for the 190 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 5: next fifteen months, and that's when that's how they fix 191 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 5: the problem in their minds. But to but what Sonny 192 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 5: Houstin said is true. If the black vote is noticeably, 193 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 5: you know, lacking in turnout for Biden, which I don't 194 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 5: know if you know, who knows what that would happen 195 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 5: if you change the VP, they lose the election, no question, 196 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 5: full stop. 197 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 2: Black women are the backbone of the Democrat Party. They 198 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 2: vote something like ninety seven to three for Democratic. There 199 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: is no demographic that is more heavily Democrat in voting patterns. 200 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: And you look at the major national data. 201 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: DESAT or any demo, no demo that is that heavily Republican, 202 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 2: like no group that you can break down in all 203 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: of American politics is as committed to a party as 204 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: black women are to the Democrat Party. What's interesting is 205 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,719 Speaker 2: a lot of black men are breaking off. We talked 206 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 2: about this yesterday. The Biden approval rating for men is 207 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: only one in three. 208 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: Men approve of the job that Biden is doing. Two 209 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: to one. 210 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: Men in this country say Joe Biden is doing an 211 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 2: awful job. And a lot of those men are Hispanic Black, Like, 212 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: you can't get to you know, almost seventy percent of 213 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 2: men agreeing on something without having a lot of minority 214 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: support in there as well. So men have basically said, 215 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: Joe Biden, you're a disaster. Women support Joe Biden, which 216 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: is crazy, like forty eight to forty five according to 217 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: the most recent Quinnipiac poll. And black voters support Joe Biden. 218 00:10:59,520 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: It's not a lot. 219 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: It's like fifty five to forty four. That's the only 220 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: two groups he's above water in right now. Buck is women. 221 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: And by the way, women, how in the world can 222 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: you think that Joe Biden is doing a good job? Again, 223 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: men are like two to one, he's doing awful. Nearly 224 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: seventy percent of men are like this guy sucks. Women 225 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: think that Joe Biden is doing a good job more 226 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: than think he's doing a bad job. And black women 227 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: are the absolute crux of how that happens. 228 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 5: What do you think is there is there a pathway 229 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 5: that the Democrats could And look, people will still they 230 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 5: will be saying, I mean, some in the audience will 231 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 5: probably call in or email us a second, they'll say, 232 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 5: you know, what solves this? What solves the Democrat problem here? 233 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: Michelle Obama? Yep, they'll immediately say that. 234 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 5: No, immediately, Now, it would solve the problem. We've just 235 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 5: always been told Michelle Obama has no interest in doing that, 236 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 5: But that would What it would mean is Michelle Obama 237 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 5: could be in a position where effectively she's promised to 238 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 5: presidency without actually having to run as president. She'd be 239 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 5: in a vice president role, she'd be appointed in that regard. 240 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 5: And I think that, you know, there'd be a lot 241 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 5: of dynamics that would be favorable for Democrats in that situation. 242 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 5: And then what could they probably say, why would Kamala 243 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 5: ever do this? 244 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 6: Oh? 245 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 5: Please, come on, think of a Kamala all of a sudden, 246 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 5: Kamala's memoir. If she were to agree to a plan 247 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 5: like this, ten million dollars big publish, They would say 248 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 5: ten million dollars for Kamala's memoir, no problem, the board 249 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 5: seats that she would get. Kamala would become I mean 250 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 5: she's already I believe, you know, wealthy. Her husband's wealthy. 251 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 5: But Kamala would be worth thirty to fifty million dollars 252 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 5: basically overnight if she went along with a plan like this, 253 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 5: because the Democrat apparatus knows how to get this stuff done. 254 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 5: Again not saying this will happen, but I am telling 255 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 5: you there are people who are considering how to make this, 256 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 5: how to make this happen, who matter in the Democrat 257 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 5: Party right now. 258 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 2: And this would also tie in if you truly believe 259 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: that the Obama administration from that huge tablet article about 260 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 2: how Obama stayed in DC, all of his people stayed 261 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: in DC, He's continued to be involved pulling the puppets, 262 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 2: the puppet master so to speak. That would be the 263 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: ultimate puppet master play because what they would do Buck 264 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: is they would bump out Kamala, they would put in 265 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: Michelle Obama. I bet right after the mid terms they 266 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: would replay like Biden would step down, Michelle Obama would 267 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 2: be elevated to President of the United States, and then 268 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: she would run as the incumbent, with potentially eight full 269 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: years in addition to the remaining two of the Biden administration. 270 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 2: She could be a decade in office in their mind. 271 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: Just think about it, Just think about it. That would 272 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 2: be a grand Master chess move if the Democrats were 273 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 2: able to put it. 274 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 5: But I really, I mean I've heard this even from Democrats. 275 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 5: I know, we're very plugged in Michelle Obama. Doesn't she's 276 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 5: worth you know, the Obamas are worth one hundred million dollars. 277 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, whatever the figure is. They have. 278 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 5: They have more money than could ever know what to 279 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 5: do with. They're living great lives. Does she want to 280 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 5: go through with that? I still think the answer is no. 281 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 5: But that would be a game change, that would that 282 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 5: would switch things up in a real way. 283 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 8: Yeah. 284 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 2: And also by the way, it would you know, she 285 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 2: would get dirtied up because usually the first lady is 286 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: pretty popular because she doesn't get dragged into the mud 287 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: like the president does. 288 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 5: But she'd be a VP, right, Ye, she comes in 289 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 5: as VP. And you know what I mean this this 290 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 5: is I always. 291 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: Know it's it's a regency move, you know, it's it's basically, 292 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: I mean it's what Hillary wanted, right, Like, I'm going 293 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: to follow in Bill Clinton's shoes, except Michelle Obama would 294 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: get to do it without having to actually because because 295 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: here's the thing, Stacy Abrams, for example, because if we're 296 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: if we're gonna go with the premise, that would have 297 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 2: to be a black female politician who would step in. 298 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 5: For Kamala Harrison. Kammala would willingly step aside for the 299 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 5: reasons that I laid out that that that wouldn't look 300 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 5: You would need some that to everybody would be clear, 301 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 5: this is helpful to the ticket. And I'm not sure 302 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 5: that that would be the case with the Stacy Abrams 303 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 5: because you say Saves is lost, right, I mean she's 304 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 5: lost to elections. Kamala Harris. We talk a lot about 305 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 5: how unpopular she was the senator from California before this. 306 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and who was the woman who lost to Marco 307 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: Rubio in Florida because she was another one of the 308 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: Florida congresswoman. She was another one of the women that 309 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: Biden considered. I think probably Karen Bass would be the 310 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: one that they would point to and say she's done 311 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: better because she's actually the mayor of law. 312 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 5: Maybe that would be and you know that's an easier 313 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 5: option I think for them to make as a switch. 314 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 8: Here. 315 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, we welcome our friend Dutch menden Hall to the 316 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: circle of published authors. 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Our friend the veik Ramaswami weighed 335 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 5: in on the Hunter Biden indictment. Here's what he had 336 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 5: to say, play six. 337 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 9: I think the more we're going to talk about Biden, 338 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 9: the less of an opportunity we actually have, because he's 339 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 9: going to be a sacrificial lamb, you mark my words. 340 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 9: Even that Hunter Biden indictment, which I think is itself 341 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 9: a smoke screen earlier today, that's just going to be 342 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 9: one more lever they used to get Joe Biden to 343 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 9: get out of the way when he has stopped serving 344 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 9: his useful purpose. 345 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 5: I don't see. I don't see. I think the system 346 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 5: has been protecting Hunter and Joe at every turn. I 347 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 5: don't Clay, where do you come down this? I don't 348 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 5: buy the there's some hand behind the scenes that's finally 349 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 5: pushing Joe aside with this. 350 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 2: I think that Merrick, Garland and Weiss got embarrassed by 351 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: the collapse of their sweetheart deal. 352 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: And we talked about this a little bit yesterday. 353 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 2: It's one thing to be doing the rig job It's 354 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 2: different when everybody sees you doing the rig job and 355 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 2: they start to call you out for being a stooge. 356 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: And I think we reached the stooge aspect here. And 357 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: I really. 358 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 2: Wonder what the relationship is like between Joe Biden and 359 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: Merrick Garland. Maybe one thing to kind of keep on 360 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: the horizon, Buck, is Merrick Garland gonna step down? Just 361 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 2: think about it, Like if he thinks it's so messy, 362 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 2: does he decide to bail. I think that's something to 363 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 2: put on the horizon and think about. 364 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 5: There are some who speculate we may hear an announcement 365 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 5: from the federal government when it comes to our currency system. 366 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 5: According to former Wall Street insider and digital currency expertik 367 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 5: At Tawari, we could hear something this fall. The plan 368 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 5: he's hearing suggests we might see digital dollars in place 369 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 5: of the currency system that we've all gotten so used 370 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 5: to because it's what we've used our whole lives, you know. 371 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 5: Business Insider the Big website. They confirmed this as an idea. 372 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 5: They wrote, quote the US Treasury's efforts to create a 373 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 5: US digital currency could be imminent if tik has put 374 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 5: a lot of thought into this and he's pulled together 375 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 5: some information in a video that he's posted online. He 376 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 5: wants you to see and learn and take action from it. 377 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 5: Go to dollar Recall dot com to watch this video 378 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 5: and learn how you can opt out of a possible 379 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 5: digital dollar. Dollar Recall dot Com is the website paid 380 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 5: for by Palm Beach Research Group. 381 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate everybody 382 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: hanging out with us. We are joined now as we 383 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: come down the home stretch of the Friday edition of 384 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 2: the program by Gerard Baker, former editor in chief of 385 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 2: The Wall Street Journal, now the editor at Large. He's 386 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 2: got a new book, American Breakdown, Why we no longer 387 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 2: trust our leaders and institutions and how we can rebuild confidence. 388 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to hearing some of your takes here, Gerard, 389 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 2: but I want to start and thanks for coming on 390 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 2: with us. Love the newspaper, love the work you guys 391 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: do at the Wall Street Journal. With what I would 392 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 2: say is the biggest story of the week so far, 393 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: and it's actually Joe Biden under siege. Washington Post top 394 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 2: columnist says he shouldn't run hunter. Biden indicted a lot 395 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: of people out there saying that it's time for Biden 396 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: to step down. Do you think Joe Biden will be 397 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: the Democrat nominee next year running for reelection or do 398 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 2: you think it'll be someone else? 399 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 10: Thanks very much, inde' having me on. It's very kind 400 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 10: of you, and a good Friday afternoon to you and 401 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 10: your listeners. I still think he will be I mean, 402 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 10: you're absolutely right, it is. There does seem to be 403 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 10: something afoot that columnist in the Washington Post. You've talked 404 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 10: about some of the polling that we've seen out recently, 405 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 10: some of the kind of you know, more chatter about 406 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 10: Biden's poor performance of that press conference in Vietnam. 407 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 6: No, I think what's going on still. 408 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 10: I think the problem though, that they have is they 409 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 10: don't have a plausible alternative, and that's really the Democrats problem. 410 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 10: I think, you know, Joe, but I think I think 411 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 10: the reason we're hearing about this right now is that 412 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 10: for a long time, it's been the conventional wisdom in 413 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 10: Washington wrong as usual as the conventional wisdom usually is. 414 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 10: But it's been the conventional wisdom that for all Joe 415 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 10: Biden's faults, he'll beat Donald Trump. Donald Trump can't win 416 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 10: the presidency. He can't win the general. Actually he can 417 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 10: win the Republican primary, he can't win the presidency. I've 418 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 10: always thought that was wrong. I've always doot as nonsense. 419 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 10: I think with the economy likely weakening next year, I 420 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 10: think actually, you know, the polling already shows Trump's neck 421 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,239 Speaker 10: and met with Biden, he could he could certainly win. 422 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 10: And I think that realization that he could win, that 423 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 10: Biden could lose is starting to seepin. And I think 424 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 10: that's starting to make some Democrats panic a little bit 425 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 10: and think, oh god, we may be not only we 426 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 10: got this old guy who really isn't up to the 427 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 10: job anymore, but after all that he may lose to Trump. 428 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 10: Their problem is, though, I don't think they have an alternative. 429 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 10: Who's if he steps down, Who's it going to be? 430 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 10: Kamala Harris probably is the inside track. You know, that's Frankly, 431 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 10: I'm know Joe Biden fan, but that scares me even 432 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 10: more than Joe Biden than another four years of Joe 433 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 10: Biden or you. 434 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 6: Know, Gavin Newsome, Gretchen Whitmer. 435 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 10: I mean, these these are not these are not you know, 436 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 10: names that I think are likely to be a shoe 437 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 10: in or even frankly likely to be the favorite against 438 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 10: Donald Trump. 439 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 6: So I kind of think they're stuck with Biden. 440 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 5: Gerard, thanks for being here where there's so your book, 441 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 5: American Breakdown, Why we no longer trust our leaders and 442 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 5: institutions and how we can rebuild confidence? Why do we 443 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 5: no longer trust leaders and institutions? 444 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 8: What? 445 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 5: What has changed? What have we learned? What have we seen? 446 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 5: That you get into in this book. As people are 447 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 5: going off onto their weekends here, I think it's worth 448 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 5: getting into some of the underlying foundational philosophical issues here. 449 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 10: So I think there are factors. There are multiple factors 450 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 10: that explain why people have lost trust in the major institutions, 451 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 10: and the numbers are incredibly striking. I went back and 452 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 10: looked in detail at Gallup takes these regular surveys. Other 453 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 10: organizations do too, and trust as a whole in government, media, education, 454 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 10: science and technology, big business, across the board, in all 455 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 10: of these major institutions that kind of lead American life, 456 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 10: trust has collapsed in the last twenty or thirty years 457 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 10: or so. Just it's down across the board now. I 458 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 10: think that's due to a number of factors that have 459 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,239 Speaker 10: to do with the specific institutions themselves. Frankly, people have 460 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 10: decided that government lies to them, which who can blame them? 461 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 10: Government has done a terrible performance in many ways over 462 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 10: the last twenty years. It's got very big, and it's 463 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 10: not doing things that people like. And I think that 464 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 10: reason people don't trust the government. We all know the 465 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 10: stories of how the media, quite frankly have become you know, 466 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 10: made stories up in the last few years, have become 467 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 10: increasingly partisan, increasingly biased, increasingly in pursuit of an agenda 468 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 10: big business. Big business has become incredibly woke. It's become globalists. 469 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 10: It's very much focused on you know, global markets and 470 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 10: global profits at the expense of Americans. So again, all 471 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 10: of these things have been going on. If there's a 472 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 10: defining common characteristic, though, I would say, and this is 473 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 10: what I read about in the book, I think it 474 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 10: is this these elites that have taken control of these institutions, 475 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 10: These people who all think alike. 476 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 6: They have the same kind of views. 477 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 10: They have the same views on American history, and they 478 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 10: have the same views on race and gender and immigration 479 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 10: and the importance of you know, global cooperation and global integration. 480 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 6: They have taken. 481 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 10: They've seized control of these all of these institutions, and 482 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 10: they are they are an elite. I don't really like 483 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 10: using that word, but they basically are an elite. They 484 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 10: are they have values that are fundamentally at odds with 485 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 10: the values of most Americans and the country this country. 486 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 10: I'm an immigrant. You can probably tell from my accident. 487 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 10: I came here thirty years ago. I've been a journalist 488 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 10: in this country for thirty years. This is the greatest 489 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 10: country on Earth. It's history has been one of extraordinary success, 490 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 10: built on the values that it was founded on. Obviously, 491 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 10: it's needed to reform. A lot of bad things have 492 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 10: gone on in American history. But the great achievement of 493 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 10: America and the genius of America, is that it's been 494 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 10: able to reinvent itself and recreate itself, and based on 495 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 10: fidelity to those core values. 496 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 6: I think we are, unfortunately now in all of our key. 497 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 10: Institutions, led by people almost all of them anyway, who 498 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 10: don't really share those values and who want to drive, 499 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 10: who don't really want who don't really want America to 500 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 10: be America. They want America to be kind of like 501 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 10: a like a European country, a social democratic country or 502 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 10: even you know, even maybe an Asian country. 503 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 6: They don't share those values. 504 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 10: So I think that's why people fundamentally don't trust their 505 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 10: leaders anymore. 506 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 2: Is this something that a president can cure, the right president, 507 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 2: or do you think it's something that's written at the core, 508 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 2: And if so, how do you fix it. 509 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 10: It's going to require a president, it's going to require 510 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 10: hire legislation. Probably was going to require transformation of the 511 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 10: legal system. I think we're already seeing that in terms 512 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 10: of the direction of the Supreme Court. Look, I mean, 513 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 10: one of the things I look at in the book 514 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 10: is the history. If there's good news in this book, 515 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 10: it's that we've been here before. I mean, America's had 516 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 10: these periods before where you know, trust in their leading 517 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 10: institutions has declined sharply, where people feel alienated from their 518 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 10: leading institutions. Look at look at the nineties of the 519 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 10: late nineteen sixties, in particular ninety I always say to 520 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 10: people who throw up their hands and say, oh my god, 521 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 10: things are terrible today, go back and look at ninety 522 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 10: sixty eight. Ninety sixty eight, we had, you know, hundreds 523 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 10: of Americans were dying every week in a war, we 524 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 10: had political assassinations, major political assations, We had political violence 525 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 10: across the country, we had terrorism. The country was tearing 526 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 10: itself apart. And you know, it did overcome those divisions 527 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 10: took a while. First of all, Richard Nixon was elected 528 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 10: in sixty eight and then re elected with a huge 529 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 10: majority in seventy two, and he talked about the silent majority, 530 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 10: and I think some extent he was right about that. Obviously, 531 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 10: talking of trust, I mean his presidency ended in a 532 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 10: collapse of trust with Watergate, and then we got through 533 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 10: to the rest of the seventies in a pretty pretty 534 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 10: shambolic way. 535 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 6: And then we got Ronald Reagan in nineteen eighty. 536 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 10: So a president can And then, by the way, that's 537 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 10: when in the nineteen eighties, that's when once again people 538 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 10: did have faith in American faith in America's institutions and leadership. 539 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 10: So it takes time, it takes presidential intervention, it takes legislation, 540 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 10: it takes but above all, it takes a cultural change. 541 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 10: And I think it takes people standing up and saying, 542 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 10: you know, we're not and I think this is already happening. 543 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 10: I think again, there's more good music because I think 544 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 10: that's already happening. They're standing up and saying, we are 545 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 10: going to assert American values. We're going to asert these ideals, 546 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 10: and we're going to take our country back. And I 547 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 10: think that again, that is beginning to happen. It'll take time, 548 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 10: but I'm confident that we'll get there. 549 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 5: Gerard Baker his book American Breakdown, Why why we no 550 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,239 Speaker 5: longer trust our leaders and institutions and how we can 551 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 5: rebuild confidence? Get your copy today, go check it out. 552 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 5: And Gerar, thanks so much for being with us. Appreciate 553 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 5: it both. 554 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 6: Thanks for having me. 555 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: Keep up the good work at the Wall Street Journal. 556 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 5: I was gonna say thank you for getting us like 557 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 5: a major broadsheet, you know, a major newspaper that we 558 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 5: could subscribe to. 559 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 6: So we uh, thanks you, Bill keep. I'm so glad 560 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 6: you do. Thank you for thank you for reading, and 561 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 6: thanks for having me. 562 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 5: Absolutely yeah, I do. My dad does, my brothers do 563 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 5: you know, we all we all like the journal, Uh Clay. 564 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 5: It's also a huge advantage to have a cool accent. 565 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 5: I'm just going to say. 566 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: No, no doubt huge. 567 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 5: I'm sitting here and just like man, imagine if I 568 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 5: could do a radio show with that accent, I'd be 569 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 5: amazing anyway. My cell phone company, Puretalk did something really 570 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 5: smart this summer for their customers. 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The iHeartRadio app, a phenomenal app 596 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 5: that you should all have downloaded to your smartphone because 597 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 5: it is so useful and so much fun to use. 598 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 5: I use it every day myself. You can subscribe there 599 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 5: to the Clay and Buck Show. Download the app, the 600 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 5: iHeart Radio App. It is free. I do some extra 601 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 5: monologue stuff stor we didn't get to you here on 602 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 5: the show. Sometimes we've got Tutor Dix podcast. Other people 603 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 5: be joining the podcast network. Plus you've got the Sunday 604 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 5: Hang Anything you missed. Lots of great stuff in that 605 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 5: podcast feed, so I highly highly recommend it. We have 606 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 5: also Clay some calls here. Let's see Brian in Wichita, Kansas. Brian, 607 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 5: what have you got for Hey? 608 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 11: Hey? Megadido's playing Buck? Thanks touching with pall. I hate 609 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 11: to be the pessimist here but I've been feeling that 610 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 11: there is a zero percent chance that whoever the Republican 611 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 11: candidate is will win, and there's one hundred percent chance 612 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 11: whoever the Democrat is will win. Why And my reasoning is, 613 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 11: I think if it's Trump the nominee, there's enough never 614 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 11: Trumper's on our side that will refuse to vote for him. 615 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 5: Can I just say that I've not seen I mean, 616 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 5: I hear that from people. I don't want to you 617 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 5: you had an ad there, I'll let you. We'll let 618 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 5: you get back to the end of a second. But 619 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,719 Speaker 5: I mean, who the the notion of the never Trump 620 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 5: people who are Republicans? I mean, Trump got, by his 621 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 5: own admission, more votes than any Republican in history, in history, 622 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 5: you know what I mean? So who are these Republicans 623 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 5: who anyway? 624 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: Keep going anyway? 625 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 11: And my my flip side is if Trump is not 626 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 11: the nominee and it's the Santa Serviovak whoever, there's enough 627 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 11: Trumpers that will not vote for that person. So I 628 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 11: think on our side we're doomed. 629 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 2: I don't think we're doing I appreciate the call. I 630 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 2: appreciate the call. I think I think if Biden is 631 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: the nominee. I think the Republicans are gonna win because 632 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna come down to Biden's age as 633 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 2: the number and in dementia. 634 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: And look when I. 635 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 2: Say age, I mean he's going to be eighty two 636 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: and he's not going to be in his grip and 637 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 2: control of his faculties. Eighty two, right, They are eighty 638 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 2: two year olds listening to us right now that are 639 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 2: ten times as with it as Joe Biden is. So 640 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: there's a wide variety of ages. 641 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 5: I think it we could call it his we could 642 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 5: call it his age related cognitive deterioration. Yes, right, it's 643 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,479 Speaker 5: a specific thing that is tied to age in his 644 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 5: case that is not the same for all people at 645 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 5: that age or near his age. 646 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 2: And buck even that clip that we played yesterday where 647 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 2: Biden sort of disgustingly pivoted when he was asked about 648 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 2: bereisma and talked about the fact that his son died. 649 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: Oh no, you clip, but yes, yeah, an old clip. 650 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to saying, you listen to Biden talk 651 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen or twenty twenty when he was on 652 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 2: the campaign, to the extent he was on the campaign 653 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 2: trail at all. He has deteriorated markedly in his speech 654 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 2: patterns and his ability to communicate just in the last 655 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: three years. 656 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 5: People can get mad at this, but it is a fact. 657 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 5: There was no talk of in any meaningful way Biden's 658 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 5: cognitive decline after the debates in twenty twenty. Right after 659 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 5: the debates, nobody was saying, oh my gosh, that moment 660 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 5: when he was know, you know, gibberish upons, it didn't happen. 661 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,959 Speaker 5: Didn't happen. So if we're hoping and I don't mind, 662 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 5: I don't even think he's going to debate this time. 663 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 5: I'm not sure that that I think so that that 664 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 5: that means it's definitely not gonna happen. Jim and Denver, Jim, 665 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 5: what have you got going on? 666 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 8: Those guys? Hey, Megadeto's this has to do with a 667 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 8: shadow government. I honestly believe that Biden or Biden, Barack 668 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 8: Obama and his former staff is running the show. That 669 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 8: Joe Biden is just a useful idiot. You cannot tell 670 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 8: me that that. And and Buck and respond to this 671 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 8: that the intelligence community wasn't telling Obama what Biden and 672 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 8: his son were doing during his presidency because it would 673 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 8: have affected his presidency. 674 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: I agree one hundred percent with that argument. Buck. 675 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 2: I think the reason that Obama did not pick Joe 676 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 2: Biden was because both he knew that there was a 677 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,479 Speaker 2: cognitive decline underway, and also I think he knew about 678 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 2: some of these issues that we're outstanding with with Hunter 679 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 2: Biden and the Biden crime fan. 680 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 5: This stuff has been known since twenty eighteen, so it's 681 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 5: not you know, publicly, I should say. And if you 682 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 5: want to think about what Obama would have known before 683 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 5: the Republicans had to or you know, conservative media had 684 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 5: to get this stuff out there, I think it is 685 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 5: fair to say he would have had substantially more knowledge 686 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 5: of what a mess some of the stuff within the 687 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 5: Biden family is. I also just think he didn't believe 688 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 5: Joe Biden was a very good politician or a very 689 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 5: good candidate. I mean, I think it was there's a 690 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 5: broad or even that smart or very smart. And I 691 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 5: think that he was generally disappointed by Oh I shouldn't 692 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 5: say disappointed by Biden, but I think he recognized that, 693 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 5: you know, Biden is the guy's a lightweight. He's just 694 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 5: always been. He's kind of the ultimate political lightweight. In 695 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 5: so many ways. He's just never really stood for anything 696 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 5: or made any meaningful mark other than, you know, looking 697 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 5: like a like a clown, a lot of them. 698 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 2: You know, we're talking buck about Biden's relationship with Kamala. 699 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 2: Don't underestimate how disres respectful Obama's relationship with Biden was. 700 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: He specifically chose not to endorse his vice president and 701 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 2: picked his secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, and said you're 702 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 2: next woman up. You're the next person up. Yeah, and 703 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 2: then don't forget the entire twenty twenty campaign. He didn't 704 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 2: endorse Biden. Obama set out the election. We're talking now 705 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 2: about Biden and whether he likes Kamala and what the 706 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: relationship is like. It's hard to be more disrespectful of 707 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 2: your vice president than to choose someone else to be 708 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 2: the person you endorse in sixteen, not the guy you 709 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 2: worked with for eight years, but your secretary of state, 710 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 2: and then for the entire twenty twenty campaign. You don't 711 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 2: endorse Joe Biden until he's actually got the nomination locked up. 712 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 2: You can't tell me that Obama is impressed by Joe 713 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 2: Biden or thought that he was going to be a 714 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 2: good president. 715 00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 5: I don't think Joe Biden is impressed by Joe Biden. 716 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 5: I think Joe Biden's very impressed by Joe Biden. Actually 717 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 5: that's I was just trying to be clever. Yeah, but 718 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 5: I don't. But I don't think that there's any basis 719 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,720 Speaker 5: for that at all. Now, we got a VIP email 720 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 5: from what's the name of the vip Bootsy? Is that 721 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 5: really okay? Can we get a buck talks music in 722 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 5: sports segment? Well, no, because it's going to sound like 723 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 5: I'm just the old man yelling at everybody to get 724 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 5: their music in their sports ball off my lawn. So 725 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 5: I don't know if that's going to really be particularly 726 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 5: helpful or a stud analysis to anybody, unless we want 727 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 5: to talk classical music, where I am more well versed 728 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 5: than most of the people listening to this would imagine, 729 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 5: based in the fact I don't talk about it very often. 730 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 5: I was a classically trained musician. To this day, nobody 731 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 5: knows what the instrument is. I may have been asked 732 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 5: to have been in an orchestra clay for Georgetown University, 733 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 5: for example, but I didn't do it. So, you know, 734 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 5: I just some things some things out there. But on 735 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 5: the sports side. I love talking about it, and if 736 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 5: it's tennis, I can analyze it effectively. Beyond that, what 737 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 5: are we saying this weekend? 738 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 2: You came in this week and had a big high 739 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 2: tennis take that I didn't know anything about, Like the 740 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 2: people gluing themselves to the court. 741 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: Was that that was this Monday? 742 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 5: Right? 743 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,439 Speaker 1: Like you came in like that was lost? Okay? 744 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 2: Well yeah, clothes all fired up about you got any 745 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 2: big plans? By the way, happy birthday? He might be 746 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 2: listening right now. My middle son Lincoln turns thirteen today 747 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 2: and my youngest son Nash turns nine on Sunday, So 748 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 2: we are birthday partying it up in the Travis household. 749 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: Two of my three boys having birthdays this weekend. What 750 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 1: about you? What are you doing? 751 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 5: Writing book and playing tennis? 752 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 2: That is my weekend? And yelling at people for playing 753 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 2: their music too out in South Florida that is definitely 754 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 2: going to happen as well. They they may or may 755 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 2: like the local like law enforcement may be familiar with 756 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 2: me at this point. Just from the excuse me, sir, 757 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 2: there is loud music emanating from a party down the street. 758 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 5: I feel the base buck does not like the male base. 759 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 5: What's a male caaren I don't even know what that is.