WEBVTT - Commitment Issues

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<v Speaker 1>It's very distracting to sit next to you when you

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<v Speaker 1>look this good. Okay, well, sweetheart, let me just tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to be suggestive here, because you know

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<v Speaker 1>how shy I am. But when I button my shortest

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<v Speaker 1>modest when I butt my shirt, you see that pucker.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not acceptable. So I don't care. I'll just rather

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<v Speaker 1>have a little Cleveland. You have a little Dolly parton

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<v Speaker 1>stretch across the bosom when you try and button it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can't keep your eyes where yeah, fixation on

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<v Speaker 1>your breast. Today, I walk up the stairs, so I

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<v Speaker 1>went to the house before we recorded today, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>just standing there like presenting yourself peacocking, and it's very

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<v Speaker 1>hard for me not to be enamored with your boobs. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard for me to only be enamored by a

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<v Speaker 1>gay man for my looks and my boobs. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's out of men going to get what we want.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know. The way that I

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<v Speaker 1>was getting men that I wanted was by inappropriate behavior,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not which is forbidden now, So like you

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<v Speaker 1>can't even guys aren't even they're pretty much too scared

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<v Speaker 1>to even hit on us right now, so like there's

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of action happening. And and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>keep it that way outside of that dress and there

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<v Speaker 1>will be action happening. You look like for anyone listening

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<v Speaker 1>who gets this reference, she looks like a sexy miss

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<v Speaker 1>Honey today from Matilda. I mean, it's like an amish dress,

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<v Speaker 1>but you somehow make it sexy. Thank you, thank you, sweetheart.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that. I just want to build you up.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a rough night in my bed last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Bert fell out of the bed last night. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>first let me tell you I last it was a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a loud thump, and I was like, oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>you must have broken an arm. Of course I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get up because I was like, he'll figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>But so soft, it doesn't matter. His bones aren't like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're not brittle, they're just like soft. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was sleeping and I felt like this hangnail

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<v Speaker 1>on my finger and I remember just lifting my arm

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<v Speaker 1>out off of the bed and reaching out for somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to clip that was going to come in manicure. In

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<v Speaker 1>that moment, yeah, I thought somebody was just gonna like

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<v Speaker 1>you were there and you were going to clip a

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<v Speaker 1>hang or somebody was in my dream materialized and then

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that my arm was up. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing? I was like, oh, this fucking hang. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I have those little things in bed sometimes where it's

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<v Speaker 1>such an irritation and it's so minor, like I will

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<v Speaker 1>rub in between my eyebrows and if I feel one

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<v Speaker 1>of those really coarse unit brow hairs, I will have

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of bed to go pluck it before

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<v Speaker 1>I can fall asleep. Oh yes, of course, but well

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<v Speaker 1>I did because I don't have a hair in between

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<v Speaker 1>my eyebrows that's growing currently because I'm forty six, So

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<v Speaker 1>that river stopped. Did you get that lasered off? Probably? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that might be why it's not growing. Also, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for reminding me, sweetheart. I mean, I've done laser hair

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<v Speaker 1>removal two rounds, but rounds and nothing works in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of your eyebrows. No, I want to do my eyebrows,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can't. You can't pluck them for months, like

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<v Speaker 1>you just have to shave it. And I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be some who shaves their eyebrows. Just keep your

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<v Speaker 1>eyebrows going. Anybody who sucks with their eyebrows is making

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<v Speaker 1>a mistake because when you get older, they don't come back.

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<v Speaker 1>Just hold onto your eyelashes and your eyebrows. The best

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<v Speaker 1>thing I did in my adult life was letting my

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<v Speaker 1>eyebrows grow, and because I had very gay eyebrows for

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<v Speaker 1>a while and now they're what are they now? They

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<v Speaker 1>are big Italian eyebrows. But it looks like you're peacocking

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<v Speaker 1>with your eyebrows. I don't have breasts. I could I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of do a little bit. Now, yeah, you do.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a little booby action, not like I do.

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<v Speaker 1>But nobody, no one, no one has that sort of action.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like we've done such good work here lately,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't want we can't. We can't pat ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>on the back like that. It's too obnoxious. It excites

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<v Speaker 1>me to come in here, I know, right, yes, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's the what I mean that excites me. That we've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten to speak to people, and every time we sit

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<v Speaker 1>down and studio, I'm like, who are we going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you today? Well, also that we've had such

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<v Speaker 1>serious issues come in right, I mean the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we drove home the other day and we

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<v Speaker 1>were like, oh my god, these are serious issues. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's good that we have kind of a cabal of

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<v Speaker 1>like people to bring in for certain people, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think we are a little bit out of our league

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<v Speaker 1>in some of these areas. I thought these were just

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<v Speaker 1>going to be typical advice giving and some of them

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<v Speaker 1>are a little bit more deep. But I like that

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<v Speaker 1>we're smart enough to know that they were, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>leardering someone else. And when we do need to bring

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else in, we will, And when we just need

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<v Speaker 1>to be sweethearts together, that's what we'll do. Also, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to take a break right now and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be right back. I think we should just get

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<v Speaker 1>right into it today. I would really like to start

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<v Speaker 1>tackling some of these issues because today is all about

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<v Speaker 1>commitment issues, and I think we both have our own

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<v Speaker 1>perspectives on these. Well, you're in a committed relationship and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. Well, there you go. That's very telling. Our

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<v Speaker 1>first mission comes from Kaylee, She writes, Dear Chelsea, I

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<v Speaker 1>have an important question for you. Nearly two years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I got out of a ten year relationship. It was

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<v Speaker 1>very hard, but the right thing to do. I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>a good place now, well as good as I can

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<v Speaker 1>be living at home with my parents during a global pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a great job that I love, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>lucky enough to have comfortable income. I have wonderful friends,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm able to chase passions in my spare time

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<v Speaker 1>like skiing. Oh that's good, Kaylee. So on the question,

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<v Speaker 1>how do I know if I'm ready for love again?

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<v Speaker 1>I think the idea of marriage insane after the ship

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<v Speaker 1>that I went through. I honestly can't see myself being

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<v Speaker 1>with someone, but I don't want to be closed off either.

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<v Speaker 1>How do I learn to trust again? How do I

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<v Speaker 1>decide if and when I need a partner in my life?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is something that everyone goes through after

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<v Speaker 1>a breakup. So yeah, yeah, yeah, she on the phone. Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Kyley. Hi. First of all, what kind of spelling

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<v Speaker 1>is that? Are you Nordic or it's Gaelic? Gaelic? That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I met, Gaelic Nordic. Yeah the fuck Brandon. Hi, Kayley,

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<v Speaker 1>It's nice to see you. How are you doing good? Thanks?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? We're well? Thank you? How long have

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<v Speaker 1>you been single? Almost two years in July? Huh? You

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<v Speaker 1>look nice? You look nice and sweet? Why did it end.

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<v Speaker 1>The best way to sum it up is I read

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<v Speaker 1>the definition of what it is to be gaslighted about

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<v Speaker 1>a year later and was shook. So I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was just that kind of situation where the reality that

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<v Speaker 1>we all live in wasn't the reality that he was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to reflect. So really happy to be out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing that's happening now is people keep asking me, well,

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<v Speaker 1>when are you going to do something about your situation?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what do I ask to do? That's because

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<v Speaker 1>people are fucking unoriginal and they don't have anything more

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to ask you than to say, when are you

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a new boyfriend? What's going on? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you dating? I can't tell you how many times. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean even now, it's like know me less, like that

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<v Speaker 1>is not part of my identity who I'm dating, or

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<v Speaker 1>that's not my main agenda in life is who I'm dating.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a sister in law Russian. Her name is Olga,

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<v Speaker 1>and she every time I come home, she said, don't

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<v Speaker 1>see any men an I'm like, Olga, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about men on my vacation with my family,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's the least of my worries, you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>I understand how annoying it is to be asked that

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<v Speaker 1>question over and over and over again. But people just

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any original questions to ask, because then if

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<v Speaker 1>you're with someone, then it's the next question is when

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<v Speaker 1>are you's gonna get married? And then when you get married,

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<v Speaker 1>it's when are you going to have a baby. The

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<v Speaker 1>bigger issue here is that people think your identity only

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<v Speaker 1>comes from being with someone, and when you're with them,

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<v Speaker 1>how that dynamic embodies who you are, Like you're You're

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<v Speaker 1>a full person outside of that relationship. That's why relationships

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<v Speaker 1>like you need to maintain some autonomy in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate when people couple you together. That's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the Johnson's whomever. It's like no, no no, no. Or women,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is so terrible. But women who write

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<v Speaker 1>in their Instagram bio like wife to so and so.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, that's how you want to identify yourself? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I hear you, I hear you. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's important for you to maintain like your single dom

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<v Speaker 1>in a way where you're not expecting it to go

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<v Speaker 1>in any direction. Like to be open minded means you're

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<v Speaker 1>open for anything that's unexpected. Any change. You're open minded

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<v Speaker 1>to being single, if that's the road you're supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>go down. You're open minded to dating, and you're open

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<v Speaker 1>minded to having a relationship, like a more serious relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you live like that where it's not dependent,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, some people are desperate to find someone

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<v Speaker 1>and that just ends up defining them in the wrong way, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like why do you need another person so badly? So

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you're like celebrating your single dom in

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<v Speaker 1>the right way, a, people are gonna be attracted to that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, people are interested in that in independence, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're more likely to find the type of guy that

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be attracted to if you're really into

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<v Speaker 1>being you know, your true authentic self. Kayley, are you

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<v Speaker 1>dating at all? No, not at all, Not in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I just it was it's it's just not where I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to put the energy in my life. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to have fun at work, have fun friends. Yeah, a

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<v Speaker 1>good way to say that. I like the way you

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<v Speaker 1>said that. Well, thanks. Yeah, there's a confidence that comes

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<v Speaker 1>with that of knowing that you don't have to be

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<v Speaker 1>fulfilled by anyone, that you're giving yourself the fulfillment that

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<v Speaker 1>you need either with an activity, skiing, with work, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>that looks like for you. But there's also an element

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<v Speaker 1>of those minor interactions that you could go on a

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<v Speaker 1>date without confidence and not worry if there's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a second day, that you make the decision like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually not into this guy at all. Like that's powerful,

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<v Speaker 1>and knowing that I don't need you gives you a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more space to interact with people without the burden

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<v Speaker 1>of where is this going to go? Yeah, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>agree with that more. And I find it it took

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<v Speaker 1>away from my life instead of adding to it. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's just all the wrong reasons. And I find people

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<v Speaker 1>kind of put you on their track of what they

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<v Speaker 1>want you to do, who they want you to be,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just am not interested in that in any way,

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<v Speaker 1>shape or form, right exactly. And that's the important thing

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<v Speaker 1>is not to let yourself be defined by what others

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<v Speaker 1>expect from you, Right, Who gives a ship what others

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<v Speaker 1>expect from you? It's what do you expect from you?

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<v Speaker 1>And also you know when you get out of a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship where there is an unhealthy attachment. I remember I

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<v Speaker 1>broke up with this one boyfriend, and we had this

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<v Speaker 1>really volatile relationship for years. It went on on and

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<v Speaker 1>off and on and off, and everyone was just like

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<v Speaker 1>all our friends were like, shut up already, you know

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<v Speaker 1>you too, just like break up already. And I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to dream of the time where I wouldn't be heartbroken.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to think of the time I go.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to be so fiercely single that this

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<v Speaker 1>person doesn't affect me at all. You know that there's

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<v Speaker 1>no tether to him and I. When I got there,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember reminding myself, like, oh my god, this is

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<v Speaker 1>where you've been hoping to be for so long. And

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<v Speaker 1>sit in this and enjoy this moment, you know, enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>the freedom of not being tethered to somebody who is

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<v Speaker 1>giving you bad vibes. I love that it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>you know exactly kind of where you're at and what

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<v Speaker 1>you want. So I don't know that there's much advice

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<v Speaker 1>that we can give you, because it seems like you

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<v Speaker 1>are operating in the way that we've We've had this

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<v Speaker 1>a similar discussion with many callers, and they really don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how to reconcile where they're at. But it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like you know and have great confidence in your positioning

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<v Speaker 1>personally probably professionally right now that you don't need you

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<v Speaker 1>really don't need any advice from us, Like you know

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing the right thing. Well, I think your take

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<v Speaker 1>is so different than the average person. So I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I get so much pressure and that's the first

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<v Speaker 1>thing people ask when they see me. So it's just

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<v Speaker 1>nice to hear it from people who are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>understanding of that, because that's not the reality I live

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<v Speaker 1>in right now. And I know people just want to

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<v Speaker 1>make conversation, but it's the worst. Can I ask where

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to give us a specific but where

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<v Speaker 1>are you in the US? Like Midwest? Are you on

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<v Speaker 1>a coast? I'm in Canada, Okay, So, like I always

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<v Speaker 1>think when I hear of these types of things, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>from the Midwest. And again, there's like a very specific

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<v Speaker 1>trajectory of life for women that they're married with kids

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<v Speaker 1>by certain age, and I think that you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to enter those conversations with like a confidence

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<v Speaker 1>and authority of like this is where I'm at, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, I don't need this. You need to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of put it back on them, like why would you

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<v Speaker 1>think that I need a man. Make them think about

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<v Speaker 1>what they're asking, how ridiculous it is, Like, why do

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<v Speaker 1>I need that? That's a really good point. I never

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<v Speaker 1>thought to do that. And also like, you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>anybody who's ever going to take away, right, you only

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<v Speaker 1>want an additive. All my friends are like, Chelsea, you're

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<v Speaker 1>so picky. Your standards are so high. I go, they

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<v Speaker 1>can be. I'm fine without a man, so they can

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<v Speaker 1>be as fucking high as I want them to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And until somebody fulfills those standards that it's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen because I'm perfectly happy being alone. Also, I

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<v Speaker 1>love that. And you're also never alone. I'm never alone. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm never alone, not when I'm raising the two parents

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<v Speaker 1>I mean two parents parents. I was raising my parents

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<v Speaker 1>and they both died, so that's how great of a

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<v Speaker 1>parent I am. And now I have two dogs who

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<v Speaker 1>will probably transition into the afterlife after I raised them.

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<v Speaker 1>But you hear what we're saying, yes they do. Can

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<v Speaker 1>Will you let us know if and when you do

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<v Speaker 1>start dating and what that's like for you and what

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<v Speaker 1>sort of men are out in the Canadian pond, because sweetheart,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I don't know if you're aware, but she

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<v Speaker 1>now has a home in Canada, so we're gonna need

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<v Speaker 1>to find her some prospects. Yeah, I need a mountain man.

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<v Speaker 1>I need a big, strong Canadian mountain man who's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>flip me over and spin me around. Okay, Well, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna manifest this for you somebody and Albert our BC

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<v Speaker 1>we can do it. Okay, Well, if he's out there, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll manifest, will manifest together, will manifest both of our

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<v Speaker 1>future lovers. Yes, might could just be a dog though,

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, doesn't have to be an actual person.

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<v Speaker 1>A dog is a great addition to anyone's life. That's

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<v Speaker 1>always an enhancement. That's what you want from a man,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what you'll get from a dog. There's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a nice little pick me up in life. Take

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<v Speaker 1>you out. You have company, and you don't really have

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<v Speaker 1>to answer to them, so even better. That's that's the advice.

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<v Speaker 1>Go get a dog. Perfect by Kaylee, Thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I It is true though, when I come home and

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<v Speaker 1>I see Bert and I just think, like when I

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<v Speaker 1>come home to the house and there's no one, they're

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<v Speaker 1>just the dogs. There is a feeling of happiness and

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<v Speaker 1>comfort that is just like lifts me. You know, that

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<v Speaker 1>is like, oh it's yeah, it's so closy, and I

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<v Speaker 1>could sit with him for fucking forty minutes and rub

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<v Speaker 1>him and rub his belly. You know. It's the lack

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<v Speaker 1>of pressure in that situation where there there's love and interaction,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's no expectation. Yeah, there's no there's no one

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<v Speaker 1>I have. My friend just left her husband and she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh God, it's so nice not having to cook dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, cook dinner. What are you in my coup

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<v Speaker 1>is preparing dinner for their husband. She's like lots of women, Chelsea,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, okay, well, there's one thing about single

0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:51.200
<v Speaker 1>dumb well A I can't cook even for myself, so

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be cooking for another person unless he had

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<v Speaker 1>no taste buds or an all egg white diet. Egg whites,

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<v Speaker 1>turkey and protein shakes is what I pay sickly subsisting on.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever since I saw c Spiracy, she seems like she's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be just fine. So it's an interesting mix

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<v Speaker 1>of people who submit or call in because I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people know exactly where they're at and

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<v Speaker 1>they just want someone they want Yeah, they want somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to give them the sign stamp of approval, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're here for. Sometimes, sweetheart, Sometimes the heavy

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<v Speaker 1>lifting isn't up to us, It's up to the caller. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see what Emily's got going on. She is a

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<v Speaker 1>year old from Maryland. She works in healthcare, and she writes,

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<v Speaker 1>Dear Chelsea, I have a thirty two a cup at

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred and thirty six pounds, so this is out

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<v Speaker 1>of my wheelhouse. I used to weigh two hundred pounds

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<v Speaker 1>and my boobs were the same size a girl. Small

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<v Speaker 1>boobs and no ass means no sex life. I've considered

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<v Speaker 1>a fat transfer, bread segmentation. I've considered breast and plants.

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<v Speaker 1>I've considered being flat chested until I die. I've had

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<v Speaker 1>two plastic surgeon consultations. But I want your advice. My

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<v Speaker 1>family and friends are on board. I'm just afraid of

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<v Speaker 1>breast and plant illness. What happens if and when I

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<v Speaker 1>get pregnant and do or don't breastfeed? Okay? Great, Emily, Hi, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you. I'm good, I'm good. How are you doing? Doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Really good? Okay, so talk to us about your body situation. So,

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<v Speaker 1>my boys, as I like to call them, because they're

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<v Speaker 1>not girls, very very small. I've been flat chested pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much my whole life. Like you guys were saying, I

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<v Speaker 1>was two hundred pounds at one point in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Boobs stayed the same size, like I was, just like

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<v Speaker 1>flat and then big round stomach, no ask nothing. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, so you got big. You got big like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and your breast didn't get bigger with you nothing. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a real kick in the ass. So I lost all

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<v Speaker 1>this weight and then still am somewhat confident, but not

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<v Speaker 1>like fully confident, just because I wish I looked more

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<v Speaker 1>like a female had big boobs, could strut into a

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<v Speaker 1>bar and like people would notice me. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to ask you if you had a small chest,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think you would do well? I always

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<v Speaker 1>I admire people with small chest because it's so not

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I got my boobs so prematurely. They came

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<v Speaker 1>on the scene when like overnight once summer when I

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<v Speaker 1>was old, and I literally woke up some guy put

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<v Speaker 1>his arm around me in a movie theater, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>convinced that gave me my period because and seriously he

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<v Speaker 1>gave The next morning, I said to my sister and

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<v Speaker 1>her sorority sister was at our house and Martha's viniar,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, I got my period. And my sister

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<v Speaker 1>gave me to her best friend, Audrey, and she's like, Audrey,

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<v Speaker 1>will you help her? She got her period, and Audrey

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<v Speaker 1>started showing me how to use Anyway, Listen, I got

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<v Speaker 1>my period of my boobs came in overnight. Okay. So

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<v Speaker 1>the point is, I've never had small breast, but I

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<v Speaker 1>always admire small breast because it's such a nice look

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<v Speaker 1>that I've never had experience with. So I like that look.

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<v Speaker 1>But I understand that you, having had small breast, your

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<v Speaker 1>entire life are probably over it. So let's talk about that. Well. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>And I was just gonna say that the different perspectives

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<v Speaker 1>are so interesting from an outside listener because what you're

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<v Speaker 1>describing and your definition of being womanly and that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to have this chest because to some degree embodies feminism.

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<v Speaker 1>Chelsea has had that, and she's spoken about this lot,

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<v Speaker 1>but she had an X who said they weren't elegant

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<v Speaker 1>because they were basically too big. So it's interesting. You're

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<v Speaker 1>two different perspectives on what it means to have these

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<v Speaker 1>breasts and how it must feel for a woman who

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<v Speaker 1>has them and who does not their viewpoint on other

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<v Speaker 1>women's bodies. Yeah, you're always like, it's you're just looking

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<v Speaker 1>at what the grass is. Great, You're right, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. So if you're really thinking about it, you've

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<v Speaker 1>had two consultations, so you're really considering it obviously, and

0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:27.280
<v Speaker 1>everyone's supportive of that decision. Yeah, they are in your

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<v Speaker 1>family and stuff. Yeah, I mean, it's obviously not a

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<v Speaker 1>decision I can make for you. But I would say

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<v Speaker 1>I understand when people want to fix things about their

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<v Speaker 1>bodies like that. They don't like I've done that. I

0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.240
<v Speaker 1>have done that. I've had laser. I had a full

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<v Speaker 1>body laser once. I mean I've done some crazy ship

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I understand wanting to do that. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think if you've really thought about it long and hard,

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<v Speaker 1>then you have your decision there. You know you've done

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<v Speaker 1>all the due diligence, you've gotten a second opinion, you

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<v Speaker 1>know you're weighing like all the options, and you're thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about what the future holds if you do get that surgery,

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<v Speaker 1>which is really smart. You're thinking about breastfeeding and infection,

0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:06.040
<v Speaker 1>and I think those are all questions obviously for your doctor,

0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:08.720
<v Speaker 1>so that they could answer them more soundly than I can.

0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Because as a reminder in this episode, I'm not a doctor,

0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:15.359
<v Speaker 1>but I wish I was, so I have to constantly

0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:18.359
<v Speaker 1>remind people that I'm not a medical professional. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think you have made your decision, and I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>on the right track to do that. But you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be mindful about your expectations. I think well, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that women should do whatever they want with

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<v Speaker 1>their bodies. And if this is going to bring you

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<v Speaker 1>joy and security in your body, then that's all that

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<v Speaker 1>really matters. But the confidence aspect, like how you said,

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<v Speaker 1>like I have confidence, but maybe it's not what I want,

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<v Speaker 1>Like this is just something to enhance what you already have,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're beautiful because we can see you, and this

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<v Speaker 1>should be something that when you get dressed in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>like you do for yourself, that when you look at yourself, like, okay,

0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I feel I feel better about how I look naked,

0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Like that's why I work out. I don't care so

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<v Speaker 1>much what other people are seeing when I look at

0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:01.000
<v Speaker 1>myself in the eye want to feel good about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So as long as the expectation is that you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>this for you, not for how other people perceive you,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't really go wrong in your decision. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with it is how you perceive yourself and not

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<v Speaker 1>what others think. And I don't think it was ever

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<v Speaker 1>like that connotation, But it's always like how you perceive

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<v Speaker 1>yourself and if you could make it better and like

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<v Speaker 1>you could enter like this whole new mindset, like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that would be a possibility as well. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think when managing expectations, it's like to piggyback on what

0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Brandon said, Like, obviously you want people to notice. You

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<v Speaker 1>said you want to walk into bar and have guys

0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:35.960
<v Speaker 1>notice you. That's a component of this. But focusing on

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<v Speaker 1>what you really want to like about yourself is more

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<v Speaker 1>important than what other people are going to respond to.

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<v Speaker 1>So you just want to keep having that kind of

0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:47.000
<v Speaker 1>dialogue with yourself, right about this is for you. This

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<v Speaker 1>is about you feeling better about yourself, which will extend

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<v Speaker 1>to you feeling better about yourself in front of other people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, that makes sense. Okay, another decision that was

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<v Speaker 1>already made before she called in, I mean we're on

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<v Speaker 1>a real role today, just kind of stamp where basically

0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:03.919
<v Speaker 1>like where the government issued you your approval to I

0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:07.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know, go abroad, brought her, brought her well, Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering if you had a small chest, would

0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:11.840
<v Speaker 1>you just be like, this is what God gave me,

0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to work with it, or you're like, I

0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:16.280
<v Speaker 1>have these resources and I know that I could do

0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:19.040
<v Speaker 1>this and just like way those options pretty much. Can

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<v Speaker 1>I ask a question, does your chest in the size

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<v Speaker 1>of your chest affect how you go through your day? No,

0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:28.080
<v Speaker 1>If anything, it's easier because I don't have like weight,

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<v Speaker 1>right then you also need to take that into consideration

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<v Speaker 1>that if it's not affecting you mentally in a way,

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<v Speaker 1>that like it's really deterring you from doing things, from

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<v Speaker 1>going out and swimsuit, from feeling confident around people, from

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<v Speaker 1>feeling okay in your own body because they're they're all

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<v Speaker 1>these outside expectations and influences and that you really need

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<v Speaker 1>to think about. Like I would get my nose done

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow in a heartbeat if I knew that it would

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<v Speaker 1>be done and there would be no issues. But how

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<v Speaker 1>much of that is just because of what I'm seeing

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<v Speaker 1>around me. You know, there's just so much imagery of

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<v Speaker 1>like this expectation of perfection that we're never going to meet.

0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:05.119
<v Speaker 1>So you also need to be thinking about what else

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<v Speaker 1>after you get this done and say your breask about

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<v Speaker 1>perfect Don't let that be something that sends you into

0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:11.399
<v Speaker 1>a reflection of like, now I could get X, Y

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<v Speaker 1>and Z done, right. I don't want to spiral like

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<v Speaker 1>that at all, right, exactly. So it's a slippery slope

0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:18.080
<v Speaker 1>with that kind of stuff because you do one thing

0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:19.320
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, you know what else I don't like?

0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:21.080
<v Speaker 1>And then you're like, you know, you can focus on

0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:24.600
<v Speaker 1>an area of your body. Once you've sorted one situation out,

0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:28.040
<v Speaker 1>you can find another focal point to focus your attention on.

0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:30.720
<v Speaker 1>And that's also not a healthy pattern of behavior. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think you've really prepared for this well, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think your head is in the right space to figure out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what your next move is. Awesome. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>love what you guys had to say in your advice

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, it just really makes me think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking the same things that a normal person would. And

0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:47.240
<v Speaker 1>it's not just body image issues, but it's like an

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<v Speaker 1>everyday thing that other people think about as well. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll wrap this up with if you walked into a bar,

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<v Speaker 1>I would notice you. I don't know what sort of

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<v Speaker 1>value that is from a gay man, but you're very pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. So don't let that be the reason that

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<v Speaker 1>you go get something, because the confidence can show in

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<v Speaker 1>so many ways. Oh thank you. That's my new point.

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<v Speaker 1>When I walk into a barnew and be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, right, this total stranger said that that I'm hot.

0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:12.480
<v Speaker 1>So and if you can, if you if you do

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<v Speaker 1>get your enlargements, what size are you going to get? Small? Oh? Yeah,

0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:20.000
<v Speaker 1>that's the best way. It's crazy because I would stay

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<v Speaker 1>like a medium, be small. C I wouldn't even want

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<v Speaker 1>to like get like anything that people would be like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, that's Dolly partner or anything like that,

0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:29.280
<v Speaker 1>even though her boobs are great. It would just be

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<v Speaker 1>something that like people from high school would see me

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<v Speaker 1>and wouldn't even like notice I had anything really done.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the best work, the work that they have to question. Yeah, minimal, minimal,

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<v Speaker 1>not too yeah, stay away from SS when you're starting

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<v Speaker 1>at a's you know, oh yeah, I don't want it

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<v Speaker 1>to be like a total shock either where I'm like,

0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:47.720
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, what did I do? Or have to

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<v Speaker 1>regret anything. Yeah, luckily, now boob jobs are so much

0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:54.040
<v Speaker 1>more natural. They're not like getting giant bazunkas onto your

0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:56.600
<v Speaker 1>chest like vegas. You know, if nobody looks like that's

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<v Speaker 1>not in style at all. So yeah, less is more

0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:03.520
<v Speaker 1>now with boobs, for sure. Yeah. I just want something

0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:06.240
<v Speaker 1>I can cup, just something or something someone else can

0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:10.199
<v Speaker 1>cup exactly. Well, good luck, Emily. Let us know how

0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:13.480
<v Speaker 1>it goes if and when you have your operation. Awesome,

0:23:13.520 --> 0:23:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Thanks guys, Bye bye. But I think it's called a procedure,

0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:19.560
<v Speaker 1>but it is also an operation. I guess it is

0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:21.879
<v Speaker 1>a procedure in my terms. Let's get a plastic surgeon on.

0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I would love to speak with someone in an operation actually,

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<v Speaker 1>because you are surgically cutting someone open, and there's ways

0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:31.119
<v Speaker 1>do we should have a plastic surgeon on though, because

0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I need a consult after that call. We should Actually

0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:36.040
<v Speaker 1>we can consult. We could have a plastic surgeon consult

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:38.040
<v Speaker 1>the callers who call it. That would be great. I

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:40.320
<v Speaker 1>would like to tack a consultation on for myself at

0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:41.720
<v Speaker 1>that time. You need to cool it with it. What

0:23:41.760 --> 0:23:44.800
<v Speaker 1>are you talking about your nose whatever. Everyone has one

0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:46.879
<v Speaker 1>of those things. What's your problem with it? I just

0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:49.119
<v Speaker 1>don't like it. I don't think it's proportionate to my face.

0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:51.680
<v Speaker 1>What would you like it to be bigger? I would

0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:54.119
<v Speaker 1>never first about somebody getting I would like to keep

0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:57.600
<v Speaker 1>the shape or just shrink it down. That's ridiculous. I

0:23:57.640 --> 0:23:59.400
<v Speaker 1>know it's stupid, which is why I can't get it. Well,

0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:03.000
<v Speaker 1>that and Jennifer Gray, So remember her nose? Yeah? I

0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:05.840
<v Speaker 1>loved her. It was a cute whole nose, wasn't it. Oh? Yeah,

0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I loved it. I love that nose. Did you like

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 1>that movie? Growing up? It's already dancing? Who didn't like

0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:13.160
<v Speaker 1>that movie? It's like everyone's dream come true, go into

0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:16.199
<v Speaker 1>the Poconos and getting finger blasted by Patrick Swayzey. Of

0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:20.000
<v Speaker 1>course I love that movie. Baby in a Corner. No

0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:24.080
<v Speaker 1>one puts sweetheart in a partner No. No. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I could dance, you know. I like that movie so

0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:28.879
<v Speaker 1>much because she could dance. Well, she really couldn't, but

0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:33.200
<v Speaker 1>he could dance, and he made her dance. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I want. I need a man who's so good

0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:38.479
<v Speaker 1>at dancing, a straight man that's so good at dancing,

0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 1>that he could make me find you like a like

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:46.760
<v Speaker 1>a hot Latino guy who could like I would love

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<v Speaker 1>for you, I mean pretty into black eyes. I think

0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:52.160
<v Speaker 1>we should just like I'm I love everything about them,

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:54.480
<v Speaker 1>so I think that's an obvious move. I know. The

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<v Speaker 1>only thing is you don't see many black ice skiing.

0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:03.800
<v Speaker 1>That's okay, he doesn't have Well, it would be yeah, yeah, yeah, together,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's my only hobby we discovered, I mean, other

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:08.439
<v Speaker 1>than rollerblading, which I we haven't even been in a

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:10.480
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks, and who knows if that's even in

0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:12.640
<v Speaker 1>my hobby yet. I don't think it is. We're going

0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 1>this week. Well, I need more hobbies though, that's one

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 1>thing we've discovered it besides skiing, because that's seasonal. I'm

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:22.679
<v Speaker 1>already planning a summer skiing Christmas trip. It doesn't make

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:24.399
<v Speaker 1>any sense. I want to spend my summer skiing in

0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:27.160
<v Speaker 1>South America because that's how desperate I am to ski again.

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:29.120
<v Speaker 1>We just need to get a snow machine in the backyard.

0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:31.920
<v Speaker 1>That's actually a great answer to a lot of our problems.

0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:34.800
<v Speaker 1>A snow machine would be let's see what answers we needed.

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<v Speaker 1>Steep enough pitch for me to be able to like

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<v Speaker 1>ski down. Luckily, there's that nice little hillside behind the house.

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:42.440
<v Speaker 1>If if we got a little dogs at dog sled

0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:43.760
<v Speaker 1>for Burton Burn needs to take you up there and

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:47.480
<v Speaker 1>give you something to do in the afternoons. Anyway, we

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:50.800
<v Speaker 1>digress onto the next collar. His name is Grant. He's

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<v Speaker 1>from Brooklyn. He's twenty three. He is a publicist or

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:55.560
<v Speaker 1>he works in pr if some sort, we'll find out.

0:25:55.760 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 1>He writes, Dear Brandon and Chelsea, I'm so in need

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<v Speaker 1>of some serious, stupid sexual advice. I keep getting friend zoned,

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<v Speaker 1>and while I'm more than happy to add to my

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:07.439
<v Speaker 1>community of friends, I can't seem to break through it. Well,

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:09.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to partner, per se. I would like

0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 1>to stop having casual drinks with men I've only shagged

0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 1>their lovely people. But I frankly would rather have a

0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 1>lovely conversation over a barefoot contest the meal with my

0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:21.359
<v Speaker 1>closest circle. That's a very specific setup, but I do

0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:24.920
<v Speaker 1>agree barefoot contestat How do you manage expectations early on?

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Do I really have to come out of the gate

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<v Speaker 1>on the first date and say I'm not looking for friends?

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:34.919
<v Speaker 1>Your buddy, Grant. Grant, these are good questions, Hi, Grant, Hi,

0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:39.120
<v Speaker 1>they are good questions. What's going on? I guess what's

0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 1>the question is what's going on with you? So you're

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 1>having sex with people you're interested in and they're not

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 1>interested in taking it further. Well, it's kind of like

0:26:45.960 --> 0:26:47.639
<v Speaker 1>it's it's like a run through. You know, you go

0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 1>on like one or two dates and then maybe potentially

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:53.160
<v Speaker 1>hook up or whatever after you know, three or four,

0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:56.680
<v Speaker 1>and then you kind of get a text message I'm

0:26:56.680 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 1>saying something along the lines of like let's go get

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:00.480
<v Speaker 1>another drink, let's go hang out, let's go do or thing.

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:04.760
<v Speaker 1>And then it's like, hey, i'd love to, but boundaries,

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:06.399
<v Speaker 1>like let's set them up, like I want to be

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 1>friends and that's totally cool. And this has happened like

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:11.439
<v Speaker 1>maybe the past like five people I've been dating, like

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:14.399
<v Speaker 1>on a roll, one next to the next. Oh really,

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 1>that's that's disappointing. I know. Also gay men for you.

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:23.679
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I do think that setting the expectation up front. Basically,

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:25.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I think

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:27.439
<v Speaker 1>it saves every one time. I think it puts you

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 1>on the right track. So you're not wasting mental and

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 1>physical energy. Agree, directness is the best way to approach

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 1>this situation, and directness is fucking hot. So even though

0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:38.160
<v Speaker 1>it seems like, oh, like do I want to put

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>myself out there that way, yeah, because you hear this

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:43.120
<v Speaker 1>in the gay community all the time that everyone wants

0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 1>a relationship, but no one's in a relationship, so there's

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 1>obviously there is a communication error happening, and so putting

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 1>it out there like hey, this is what I'm looking

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 1>for a relationship or to date to see where this goes.

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:58.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not looking to fuck you unless you are looking

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 1>for that. And again vocal something keep looking to fund

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:03.679
<v Speaker 1>them and then he wants to be a relationship like

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 1>you can. I mean, obviously you have to test the water,

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 1>so they have to figure out if they want to

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>be in a relationship with you. But it's good to

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:11.800
<v Speaker 1>get it out of the way. I'm not trying to

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 1>make friends, like I'm here for a partner. I'm looking

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 1>for somebody to have sex with and also date right

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>right and be in a relationship. I feel like every

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:25.400
<v Speaker 1>time I go on a date, like the first thing

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 1>I say is like, that's great, Like I kind of

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:30.679
<v Speaker 1>do try to set the expectation that I'm not. So

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 1>I think it just kind of like whittles its way

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 1>in there, and I've got like this little Oklahoma like

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 1>sweetheart mom kind of vibe going on. So everyone just

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 1>automatically is like rolling with the punches and can like

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, throw me into a different folder

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 1>per se. So yeah, because that is a nice thing

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 1>to do. I mean, I'm not in the gay community

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 1>like you are, but I mean it is a nice

0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:48.440
<v Speaker 1>thing to do. Like, if I hear from someone I'm

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 1>not interested in, I will usually just not respond, Like

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say, hey, let's be friends, Like I would

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 1>never say that, because that's bullshit. I would literally rather

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:00.240
<v Speaker 1>be like ghosted and you never talked to me get

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.840
<v Speaker 1>rather than like us have like a weird asked friendship

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 1>where we're like, hey, how's it going, how's your how's

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 1>your weird roommate that I don't even remember their name

0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 1>or cared like here about you know, you don't need

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 1>to carry that wasted energy. Where are you meeting these guys,

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, like mostly hinge. I had one recently that

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>was like a friend of a friend that had gotten

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 1>out a relationship like three months ago, and I was

0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of like testing the waters a little bit there.

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:28.320
<v Speaker 1>And I initially was like this kind of like we

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>are friends, and then turned into a whole thing and

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 1>then went back to it. So it's like communicating this

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>to ongoing dating situations is like just so straight, like

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:40.479
<v Speaker 1>constantly having to be like, okay, let's check in, like

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 1>what are our boundaries here? What's going on? Like it's

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 1>this weird evan flow that I've always dealt with in

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 1>dating in the gay world. And when was your last

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 1>relationship like three or four years ago and what happened?

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, yeah, let me get a margarita for that one.

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I would love margarita. It is so early, I mean, yeah,

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>margarita like four pm sounds Who cares? What honestly, who

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 1>cares what fucking time it is? If you need a margarita,

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 1>and you know you need a margarita, I don't care

0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 1>about what time it is. You know what's saying? I

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 1>can't stand as it's five o'clock somewhere. It's like, that's

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 1>so stupid. You know what it is, It's time to

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>have a fucking margarita. As all the time. It is

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 1>so well, I think what you should do, Like I

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 1>would think instinctively, I think you just need to change

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>your approach. It's like if you go outside every day

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 1>and make a left, and every day you get bitten

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 1>by the same dog right you eventually you have to

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 1>take a right and try a different direction or try

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<v Speaker 1>a different avenue, And so you have to change your

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 1>approach to how you're dating these men and how you're

0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 1>coming across or stating what you want from the very top.

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 1>And I think if you just change little nuances of

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 1>your behavior, you'll get a much different variety of results,

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 1>which could either be a good or bad. But I

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 1>think it'll be good, maybe a couple of bad ones

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 1>when you're getting started, you know when you mean, when

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 1>you start acting a little differently, you're like, oh wait,

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 1>maybe this might be too harsh. But it's just the

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 1>adjustment period where you're finding out how much you want to,

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 1>like change your direction right of what you're doing now.

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:04.239
<v Speaker 1>To add on to that, the only other thing that

0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>I would suggest is casting a white net and like

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>dating multiple people, not sleeping with all of them necessarily,

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>but it's okay to go on multiple dates with multiple

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:15.959
<v Speaker 1>people at the same time to see what feels right,

0:31:16.080 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>to kind of reduce down what you're really looking for

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:22.479
<v Speaker 1>from all of these guys, because most guys are just

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 1>so boring and simple, and so just put yourself out there.

0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>The more, the merrier you'll eventually find what works for you.

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Can say, most gay guys are boring and simple. Most

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 1>guys are certainly simple. Well is that true? If you

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 1>if you look on Instagram, they all look the exact same,

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>they all sound the exact same, they all do the

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>exact same ship. I mean like a fourty year old mom,

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 1>which can sometimes be like a total turn off when

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I like and I'm like hanging out lounge in my

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:52.480
<v Speaker 1>room and just like listening to Linda ron Staff. That's

0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of like a little throwing off for a lot

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 1>of game in. But like, you know, no, someone will

0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:00.920
<v Speaker 1>someone will love that. They'll love that low key energy

0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 1>that you bring. That it's like cool and a little

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>mysterious but also maternal. So embrace that. You know, Yeah,

0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:12.480
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna find somebody that's gonna love everything about you.

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:14.479
<v Speaker 1>It's just a matter of weeding out, and you know

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 1>every step on the way to finding that person. You know,

0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 1>if that's what's important to you and you want to

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 1>find that person, then you will, and every step on

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>the way to that is fine because it's just a

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:26.040
<v Speaker 1>step closer to what you're looking for, which is actually

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 1>a serious, more meaningful exchange. Right. Well, that let us

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 1>know how it goes. Also, you have a beautiful skin.

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Thanks? Thanks? All right, well, let us

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 1>know what happens. Keep us posted on your love life,

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>would joh? Thanks? Everyone? By another problem solved? I mean

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 1>dating for people. I just think it's good to be

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>direct when you're dating. It's good to be like because

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 1>it could come off a little harsh, like if I

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 1>say it, you know, but he's sweet and nice. And

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:57.720
<v Speaker 1>if he says like, hey, I'm not looking for friends,

0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 1>that's that's a much different thing than me saying I'm

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 1>not looking for It's just the games that people play,

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people, you know, they don't want

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 1>to say that because they don't want to come off

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:09.959
<v Speaker 1>too strong or too eager or too interested, so they

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 1>just kind of let it like ride, and then they

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:14.680
<v Speaker 1>end up where Grant is, and it's frustrating for everyone.

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 1>It's like if everyone were just honest with what they wanted,

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 1>it would save a lot of time. It does save

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of time. It doesn't make everybody feel great

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 1>all the time when people are super direct, because a

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of people need to be coddled and a lot

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:29.560
<v Speaker 1>of people are uncomfortable with directness. But that's really more

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>reflection of them rather than the person who's being direct.

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:37.080
<v Speaker 1>But I understand softening messages is important, especially for me

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>my whole life. I've been told, oh god, you know,

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 1>soften it down, take it down a notch, And you

0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 1>know it was true. I needed to soften it down

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 1>and take it down a notch. So that was hard

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 1>to hear over and over again. But once I applied

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 1>it and actually listened to it, it was helpful. With

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 1>his situation is he's already nice and soft and he

0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:57.640
<v Speaker 1>needs to be a little bit firmer. So that's like

0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 1>a flip. I think for you it was is that

0:34:00.720 --> 0:34:03.920
<v Speaker 1>you you realize there is a different way to relay

0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 1>the same message. Yes, that your tone and how you

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:09.399
<v Speaker 1>presented it you would get. And I think a lot

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:11.719
<v Speaker 1>of times you think more about other people's feelings. He

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 1>needs to think less about other people's feelings. He thinks

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 1>he needs to think more about his own feelings and

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 1>what he wants because he's accommodating these people that well,

0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:23.399
<v Speaker 1>he's not really accommodating them. They're just telling him they'd

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:26.399
<v Speaker 1>rather be friends. So he needs to be a little

0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:28.800
<v Speaker 1>bit more direct and a little bit less friendly. I

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 1>would argue less friendly, and then nobody would want to

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:33.359
<v Speaker 1>be your friend. But then you'll find a boyfriend. So

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 1>it's a real mindful brand. It's not very friendly, are you? Well,

0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>you're friendly? I can't be. I'm really friendly to the

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:41.920
<v Speaker 1>check out people the grocery stores. I like those interactions

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 1>because they're really short, but then these longer interactions, like

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 1>you go to dinner with someone, or you're going like

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:49.319
<v Speaker 1>I've tried to go on hikes and you're just so

0:34:49.360 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 1>exhausted by the end of it. You're like, how can

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:52.879
<v Speaker 1>I possibly be your friend? I really wanted to fall

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:56.400
<v Speaker 1>asleep thirty minutes ago. While hiking is also I'm not

0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:59.319
<v Speaker 1>into hiking. Everyone in l A likes to hike, and

0:34:59.400 --> 0:35:02.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I'm the views to be that nice once

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:04.480
<v Speaker 1>you get to the top. So plus there's snakes, so

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:06.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, I have a real aversion to snake. I

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:08.640
<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, you love physical activity. You hate anything

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 1>involving potential desert, dry arid hikes. That is like not

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 1>my cup of tea. And that was California exactly. We're

0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:20.560
<v Speaker 1>going to take a break right now, Yes we are,

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 1>but we'll be back, Okay. Our next mission comes from

0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:31.440
<v Speaker 1>No Name out of New York. They write, this is

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:34.440
<v Speaker 1>a long one, dear child. I know people also need

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:38.799
<v Speaker 1>to shorten their emails. Dear Chelsea, I'm glad you no

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 1>longer have a crush on Cuomo. I had one to

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:44.239
<v Speaker 1>what a mess? Yeah, no fucking jokes. Seriously. During the

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:46.320
<v Speaker 1>first part of quarantine, I was subletting for about a

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 1>year in a pretty chill four bedroom set up. We

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:51.440
<v Speaker 1>weathered the lockdown together and actually had fun at times.

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 1>As time went by, some of the roommates were more

0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:57.560
<v Speaker 1>laid back in their approach about the coronavirus, still dating, partying,

0:35:57.600 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 1>going to underground clubs, et cetera. And when the lease

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 1>was up, they decided that they wanted to go their

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:05.279
<v Speaker 1>separate ways. Well, probably lucky for you, because I was

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 1>unemployed and not on the lease. I moved into a

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 1>two bedroom with one of the leftover roommates, and I

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:12.400
<v Speaker 1>stupidly signed a two year lease that I could barely afford.

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Long story short, well, a long story long. It's a

0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:18.359
<v Speaker 1>nightmare living with him, and I just found a job

0:36:18.360 --> 0:36:21.000
<v Speaker 1>in Denver after being unemployed for almost a year. I

0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 1>start remotely, but have to move there by June and

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 1>and leaving with my boyfriend. I haven't told him yet

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 1>that I want to break the lease. He was so

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 1>terrible when our last roommates told him that they didn't

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:33.000
<v Speaker 1>want to live with him anymore. So I'm scared to

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 1>tell him, and I keep putting it off, causing crippling

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 1>anxiety every day. I'm also scared my landlord is going

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:40.959
<v Speaker 1>to sue me because the building sucks, so I'm thinking

0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I can get out of that legally one way or another.

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Has this ever happened to you? What have you done

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:49.880
<v Speaker 1>to confront someone you have lived with? First of all,

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 1>the anxiety that you're feeling about not confronting him is

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:55.759
<v Speaker 1>paramount to what you would feel if you would just

0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:57.960
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and confine him, which you need to do immediately.

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:00.880
<v Speaker 1>And it's not a confrontation. It doesn't matter how he

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:02.879
<v Speaker 1>handled something in the past. We're in a different time,

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:05.319
<v Speaker 1>so who knows, Maybe he'll handle it the same way,

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 1>or maybe he'll handle it differently, But all you can

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:10.400
<v Speaker 1>control is how you handle it, and by not telling him,

0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 1>you're creating way too much suffering for yourself. So A,

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:15.960
<v Speaker 1>you need to go in and talk to him honestly

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:17.839
<v Speaker 1>and tell him you got a job in Denver. You're

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:20.319
<v Speaker 1>moving to Denver. How do you get somebody in there

0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 1>to take your place? That's the next move, right instead

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:26.440
<v Speaker 1>of necessarily I don't even know if you need to

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:28.520
<v Speaker 1>break the lease. I don't know what the landlord rules

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:30.800
<v Speaker 1>are in New York. I don't know about breaking lease.

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:33.839
<v Speaker 1>But if you find somebody to take your place and

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 1>fulfill that spot, then I don't think you even need

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:38.759
<v Speaker 1>to get the landlord involved. You need to get your

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>roommate on the horn immediately because you don't want to wait.

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Not even on the horn, go home and have thee

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:48.480
<v Speaker 1>because you want to give them ample time to either

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:50.839
<v Speaker 1>try and find someone to sub let your room. Going

0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:52.400
<v Speaker 1>down to the wire is just going to make it

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 1>more stressful for everyone. So and you also can help

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:59.480
<v Speaker 1>be a part of finding somebody. It is your responsibility

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 1>since you sign into to your lease, but people get

0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 1>out of leases all the time, So you just have

0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:06.480
<v Speaker 1>to find a candidate, and you can work with your

0:38:06.520 --> 0:38:08.319
<v Speaker 1>roommate and say, hey, let's do this together. I want

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:10.520
<v Speaker 1>to find somebody to fill my place too. I have

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 1>to leave. I'm not going to be able to afford

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 1>to pay this rent anymore once I leave and moved

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:17.919
<v Speaker 1>to Denver. So it's just not something that you guys

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:20.920
<v Speaker 1>can avoid talking about. And also it's not personal, like

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:22.880
<v Speaker 1>you've got a job. So I think that that's something

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 1>in the conversation that this isn't that you just don't

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 1>want to live with them. They're going to understand that

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:29.440
<v Speaker 1>you have a new opportunity somewhere else and you have

0:38:29.480 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 1>to leave. This isn't just because you no longer like

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:34.920
<v Speaker 1>the living situation or conditions. So you just need to

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 1>pull the trigger and have the conversation. Yeah, and handle

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 1>yourself with like dignity and respect so that the person

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 1>if they spin out, your roommate and if he's freaking out,

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:46.560
<v Speaker 1>you're not feeding into that. You just sit there and

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 1>these are the facts, and how are you going to

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 1>find a solution? Sweetheart? That was really great guidance, Sweart.

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I would like you to answer the last part of

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 1>this question though, because you've had multiple would you. I

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you call them roommates, livings what you've had.

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:03.120
<v Speaker 1>But I found out I lived with my cousin the

0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:05.440
<v Speaker 1>other day, my cousin Michael, we were out. I was

0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 1>at my family's and they were like, I remember when

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 1>you lived with Michael. I go when they're like, on

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 1>twentieth Street in Santa Monica, you lived with him for

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 1>like six months, And I'm like, I don't remember living

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:18.880
<v Speaker 1>with Michael, not even one night. Like I don't remember

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:23.040
<v Speaker 1>memory a six months. It sounds like it's plausible, but

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember six months period of time that I

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:29.000
<v Speaker 1>do not remember living with somebody, which hopefully is how

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:30.560
<v Speaker 1>this guy is going to feel when he moved to Denver.

0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:32.120
<v Speaker 1>He won't even remember that he lived with this guy

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:34.080
<v Speaker 1>when he's in his forties. Well, let's talk about this.

0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 1>What have you done to confront someone that you've lived with?

0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:38.359
<v Speaker 1>Have you had issues because you've had multiple people live

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 1>with you, You You have assistance, you've had friends. Was there

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:44.880
<v Speaker 1>ever really like awkward or uncomfortable conversations that you had

0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:48.239
<v Speaker 1>to have? Yeah, I just not living together that well, Yeah,

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:50.239
<v Speaker 1>because if I lived with guys either they would try

0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:51.839
<v Speaker 1>to sleep with me or I al I did sleep

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.839
<v Speaker 1>with them, so that never worked out because they would

0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:57.319
<v Speaker 1>either become like almost like a little bit obsessed with you,

0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 1>or you could have become basically I once lived with

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:05.279
<v Speaker 1>this elementary school teacher and I had no idea that

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:06.920
<v Speaker 1>he had a crush on me. I was in my

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:10.239
<v Speaker 1>early twenties, and it became obsessive and he became a

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:12.520
<v Speaker 1>little like borderline psychotic, and I had to skid out

0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 1>all But I was so clueless because I had a boyfriend.

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I talked about my boyfriend was with my boyfriend all

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:19.760
<v Speaker 1>the time I thought he was, and then he really

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:23.359
<v Speaker 1>turned on me. So I have had uncomfortable situations like that.

0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:27.400
<v Speaker 1>But and also I've had raging blowout fights with roommates

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:30.200
<v Speaker 1>that I've lived with, you know, about bills or about messes,

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:33.399
<v Speaker 1>or about partying or whatever. I mean, all of it.

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 1>But have I ever, I don't think post therapy, I've

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:39.440
<v Speaker 1>had a situation where I had to ask someone to

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:42.040
<v Speaker 1>get out of my house. You don't have anyone living

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:43.960
<v Speaker 1>with you right now, right So all the times that

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<v Speaker 1>I've had to get some people out of my house

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<v Speaker 1>have added badly because of my my disposition because I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't handling it like an adult. I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta get out, I don't like this, or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like just to open and shut case. In retrospect,

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<v Speaker 1>even though you didn't handle it properly, who was actually

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<v Speaker 1>in the wrong. Well, I think in retrospect, when you

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<v Speaker 1>look back at everything, you're not thinking about who's in

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong or the right. You just look at it

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<v Speaker 1>as a situation where two people are coming with opposing perspectives.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not about right and wrong. It's just about

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<v Speaker 1>understanding that you're going to have a different perspective than

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<v Speaker 1>that then your roommate does. Every roommate I've ever had

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<v Speaker 1>has ended poorly. I would never I would rather live

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<v Speaker 1>in a van by myself to live with roommates. Well, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of vans, you should watch that movie with Francis

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<v Speaker 1>McDorman that one an Oscar. Yeah, that's she lives in

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<v Speaker 1>her van and she outfits it and jury rigs it

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<v Speaker 1>and like sets it up and builds it out from

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<v Speaker 1>the inside out. I love Francis mcdormant. She reminds me

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<v Speaker 1>of my aunt Gabby. Francis McDormand you know, just doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>give a ship about anything. My aunt had a gun

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<v Speaker 1>like nine or ten years ago and was going to

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<v Speaker 1>just go off on a van trip with her gun.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, what, we can't let her go

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere with a gun and a van, like she will

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<v Speaker 1>kill herself. And so I was watching it last Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she hates people, my aunt and I texted it runs

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<v Speaker 1>in our family. And I texted her and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you're watching nomad Land because this would have

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<v Speaker 1>been you if we hadn't saved you. She should call

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:08.920
<v Speaker 1>into the to the show. We can give her some advices.

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:10.959
<v Speaker 1>She's real chatty, so that would be a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>She could call and go, fuck you, Chelsea. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what sort of advice would give her for that,

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<v Speaker 1>but she could call and say it if she wanted to.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, if you need advice, if you're having interpersonal

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<v Speaker 1>issues with a brother, a boyfriend, we would love to

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<v Speaker 1>do family therapy actually yeah yeah, Or if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a partner that you want advice from, like couples counseling.

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<v Speaker 1>We that's really where I shine. Please right into Dear

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<v Speaker 1>Chelsea project at gmail dot com. We read all the submissions.

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<v Speaker 1>We will reach out, We'll get you on the horn

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:46.360
<v Speaker 1>on the phone. Yeah we care. We're doing it, you guys.

0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:48.880
<v Speaker 1>This is serious ship, Okay, so we expect you to

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<v Speaker 1>act accordingly. And also even if it's a really stupid problem,

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<v Speaker 1>like the guy who was a micro dooce in cocaine,

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<v Speaker 1>I also enjoy that. Yeah, we actually need more of those,

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<v Speaker 1>and no issue is too small or too big. Hi

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<v Speaker 1>bye baby. Also, I am on tour. My tickets are

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<v Speaker 1>officially on sale. We've added a couple of extra shows,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are adding a Canadian date. So for my

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<v Speaker 1>Canadian brothers and sisters who are reaching out to me

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<v Speaker 1>just now that I'm headed there, it's just we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be announcing dates as we go. You can buy tickets

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<v Speaker 1>a ticket Master for my shows. I'm at the Santa

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:28.359
<v Speaker 1>Barbara Bowl August one, so you can come see me there.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I have all the other cities that I

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<v Speaker 1>have already released and tickets are available and I can't

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<v Speaker 1>fucking wait. It's called vaccinated and a horny, So make

0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 1>sure that you bring your vaccinations and your horny nows

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<v Speaker 1>and then keep them to yourself. Please,