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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Fantasy BFFs. I am Frank Standfeld, live
Speaker 1: on the Sportscred TV Network. No Greg Susman out playing
Speaker 1: bingo in Fort Lauderdale, but no fear. The Closer is
Speaker 1: here Chris Ventra joining me, the Leader, the leader of
Speaker 1: the Goon Squad and the host of the Fantasy Football Frenzy. Ventra.
Speaker 1: What's going on, buddy? How you doing? I'm good? How
Speaker 1: are you doing? Buddy? I wish I was the leader
Speaker 1: of the Goon Squad. I lost a big time in
Speaker 1: the championship. Big timer who went undefeated currently took over
Speaker 1: the uh the title of the leader of the Goons squad.
Speaker 1: Got a fun show plan for today. I want to
Speaker 1: look at a review of everything that happened this fantasy
Speaker 1: football season, the leaders at the quarterback, running back, and
Speaker 1: wide receiver positions. There's a lot going on today as well.
Speaker 1: The playoffs are set in the NFL, or at least
Speaker 1: the wild card round for now, so we'll go through
Speaker 1: some of that. There's coaching carousel, there's people being fired, ers,
Speaker 1: rumors about, you know, people meeting with potential coaching candidates.
Speaker 1: So I do want to get into all that. I
Speaker 1: want to congratulate you and your boy Gucci Garoppolo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it done last night. What a way to close
Speaker 1: out the NFL season final game there Jacob Hollister getting
Speaker 1: tackled at the one inch line. Hey, look, you were
Speaker 1: the first person to back Gucci Garoppolo the way that
Speaker 1: you did. You were all over the forty niners and
Speaker 1: they put it together this year. So congratulations to you
Speaker 1: and Gucci, thank you, thank you. I hopefully Gucci wins
Speaker 1: a super Bowl, maybe he wins a championship. I mean
Speaker 1: he's a winner. Let's slow it down a little bit
Speaker 1: here invention. I don't know if the forty Niners are
Speaker 1: ready to win a super Bowl yet, But who's scary
Speaker 1: in the NFCS Not not getting a top seed, not
Speaker 1: getting a bye in the first round. Here, the wild
Speaker 1: card round, I think obviously hurts the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 1: They don't have um home field advantage throughout the course
Speaker 1: of the NFL playoffs. But they're still a really good team.
Speaker 1: Man Drew Brees, Michael Thomas breaking records out here. Defense
Speaker 1: is playing well also, so uh, there's scary. They're a
Speaker 1: scary team. We will see. Uh. I think the NFC, actually,
Speaker 1: I think the entire playoffs is pretty wide open right now.
Speaker 1: But I mentioned that we were going to talk about
Speaker 1: that wild Card weekend being set up. I do just
Speaker 1: kind of want to want to run through the schedule
Speaker 1: of these games. Venture this was the lack of the century.
Speaker 1: We always know that the Houston Texans played that first
Speaker 1: game wild Card Weekend four thirty every single year, doesn't
Speaker 1: matter who they're facing, And of course it is against
Speaker 1: another team that you were touting this season, the Buffalo
Speaker 1: bill So that will be your first game on Saturday,
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills traveling to take on the Houston Texans.
Speaker 1: The Tennessee Titans will be the night game, going up
Speaker 1: against the New England Patriots. And I'll say this, the
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans the way that they are playing right now,
Speaker 1: and I mentioned this last week with Greg. I said
Speaker 1: if I were a playoff team, I wouldn't want to
Speaker 1: see the Tennessee Titans right now. They don't have the
Speaker 1: best defense. They have a bend but don't break defense
Speaker 1: is actually a lot like the New England Patriots have
Speaker 1: been for years. Patriots defense was a lot better this year,
Speaker 1: but the Patriots normally don't have a an elite defense.
Speaker 1: Ben but don't break defense good against the run, That's
Speaker 1: that's what the Titans are. But with that offense right now,
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry running the way that he is, a J Brown,
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill, the Tennessee Titans are gonna be a tough
Speaker 1: out here against the New England Patriots. And I see
Speaker 1: some money already coming in on the Tennessee Titans because
Speaker 1: that spread has dropped from five and a half to five.
Speaker 1: Anything interest you there these first two games. So I
Speaker 1: honestly think this Tennessee New England. Game might be the
Speaker 1: toughest for me to call because they're one of the
Speaker 1: hottest teams, if not the hottest team to come in
Speaker 1: the playoffs Tennessee. Right, they've won one, two, three, four,
Speaker 1: five out of their last seven. It lost two in
Speaker 1: a row against Houston New Orleans, that big game against
Speaker 1: Houston that could have won the division, but they're still hot.
Speaker 1: Those are tough games, right, Those are tough games. So, uh,
Speaker 1: that spreads tough. But I do like the Bills, and
Speaker 1: like I said, I've been telling the Bills pretty much
Speaker 1: all yeah. I love Josh Allen thought Josh it will
Speaker 1: take a big step up this year, which he did. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's still not quite there yet. This team is a
Speaker 1: little young, so it scares me. But at plus three,
Speaker 1: maybe I buy the half of point, make it three
Speaker 1: and a half. I kind of like that, uh to
Speaker 1: win the game outright, I might put a little money
Speaker 1: on it, because I do think they could win this game.
Speaker 1: You're right, Houston every year, I got this four o'clock
Speaker 1: game on Saturday every single year, every single year, and
Speaker 1: they usually lose it. So I think, uh, I think
Speaker 1: Buffalo definitely has a shot to beat this team, and
Speaker 1: I think I think they will. I think I think
Speaker 1: it comes down to that that the Buffalo wins this
Speaker 1: game outright, I don't know about closer Chris Venture. Even
Speaker 1: more money coming in on Tennessee Titans. According to the
Speaker 1: Vandal Sports Book, I saw this open up at plus
Speaker 1: five and a half of Tennessee. Now down to plus
Speaker 1: four and a half. So people are hammering the Tennessee
Speaker 1: Titans right now against the New England Patriots. That's what
Speaker 1: scares me. Everyone's gonna be on the Titans. It kind
Speaker 1: of scares me, right, It's you know, everyone remembers what
Speaker 1: they see last, right, So the last image we have
Speaker 1: is Ryan Fitzpatrick and the Miami Dolphins going into New
Speaker 1: England and knocking off the Patriots. The Patriots for a
Speaker 1: seventeen point favorite. They lost the game the Dolphins one. Outright.
Speaker 1: What was the money line on the Dolphins, man, I
Speaker 1: should have looked it up at fourhanded. It had to be.
Speaker 1: I look as a seventeen point plus plus nine hundred thousand. Probably. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's crazy though. Sunday, This Sunday, uh the NFC Divisional Round,
Speaker 1: the NFC wild Card Round, the Minnesota Vikings at the
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints. That will be your one o'clock game.
Speaker 1: The Seattle Seahawks at your Philadelphia Eagles. That game is
Speaker 1: at for forty the spread in those games as of now,
Speaker 1: the Saints are laying eight points at home. I like
Speaker 1: the total in that game. I like that game going
Speaker 1: over forty eight on. The Seahawks are laying one and
Speaker 1: a half points on the road against the Philadelphia Eagles. Again,
Speaker 1: the Eagles are dealing with a ton of injuries, so uh,
Speaker 1: we'll see who's gonna be able to suit up in
Speaker 1: that game for the Eagles. Seattle too, of course I
Speaker 1: had a I had a Cowboys playoff tickets, so yeah, great,
Speaker 1: thanks thanks Cowboys. How is it's it's two o'clock right
Speaker 1: now on the East coast? Jason Carrott still has a job.
Speaker 1: What's going on? Well, Kurt said it before, what is
Speaker 1: going on? Jones loves his guys. Jones loves guys, gonna
Speaker 1: try to do. I mean, something's gotta happen here. If
Speaker 1: you haven't heard the news, where are you? You live
Speaker 1: under a rock? Freddy Kitchens is out in Cleveland, Patch
Speaker 1: Strmer is out for the New York Giants. I know
Speaker 1: that you are a Giants fan. We're hearing some rumors
Speaker 1: about Matt Rule, Ron Rivera, Ron Rivera meeting with Washington
Speaker 1: as well, Josh McDaniels. Is that what you want? Do
Speaker 1: you want Josh McDaniels coaching your franchise? I mean, I
Speaker 1: feel like it's better than a lot of what's out
Speaker 1: there right now. This guy's flaky, man, I know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't. I really don't like any of the any
Speaker 1: of the options Rivera. I feel like Rivera could do
Speaker 1: a good job, but I don't think you could do
Speaker 1: a good job with Gettleman. There history together in Carolina.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I saw a report Dave Gettleman has
Speaker 1: to improve his batting average. That's what That's what the
Speaker 1: Marras are saying. Well, wrong, sport, Buddy good try. I
Speaker 1: guess um the Panthers apparently looking at Mike McCarthy as well.
Speaker 1: The Matt Rule thing would hurt because I wanted the
Speaker 1: New York Jets to sign Matt Rule. He stayed at
Speaker 1: Baylor this year, and of course he's done a phenomenal
Speaker 1: job at the collegiate level. He hasn't been a coach
Speaker 1: head coach at the NFL level, but I think that
Speaker 1: would be an interesting one of the Browns. This is
Speaker 1: I like this because we could segue this into talking
Speaker 1: about the quarterbacks next segment. The Browns have requested to
Speaker 1: meet with O. C. Eg Roman of the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1: That is interesting for Lamar Jackson heading into next year,
Speaker 1: and I will tell you why after the break. This
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Speaker 1: live on the Sports Grade TV network. That is the Closer.
Speaker 1: Chris Ventra, I am Frank Stanfeld. No Greg Susman I
Speaker 1: mentioned he is out in Lauderdale, hanging with his mom,
Speaker 1: playing some bingo. I do have a quick story for everybody.
Speaker 1: Greg Sussman called me Sunday morning and tells me you'll
Speaker 1: never believe what happened to me last night. He was
Speaker 1: out drinking with Judy, his new wife, Congratulations, and he
Speaker 1: says somebody comes up to him, a stranger and says,
Speaker 1: me and my buddies are talking about how old you are,
Speaker 1: and we have an over under on how old we
Speaker 1: think that you are. He said this to Greg Sussman,
Speaker 1: So I'm not making this up. He'll tell you the
Speaker 1: story when he comes back. These were just people in
Speaker 1: a bar for Lauderdale. I don't think you knew them.
Speaker 1: I wasn't paying enough attention. What else is new? He
Speaker 1: tells me that they set the over I'll ask you first,
Speaker 1: so what do you think? And this has been a
Speaker 1: this has been a long running joke here on the BFS.
Speaker 1: I say, Greg Sussman looks like an old man. He
Speaker 1: acts like an old man. What do you think that
Speaker 1: the over under they set for Greg Sussman's age was.
Speaker 1: I would say there the thirty eight thirty seven very close.
Speaker 1: They said thirty six and a half they come up
Speaker 1: to Greg Shutsman, they say, the over under for your
Speaker 1: age is thirty six and a half, which is crazy
Speaker 1: because I mean normally, I say it because of the
Speaker 1: way that Greig acts, not personality. They said like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's your hair looks old. I'm like, I never I
Speaker 1: never said that your hair looks old. What does that
Speaker 1: mean his hair? I didn't think his hair looks bad.
Speaker 1: I just thought then the way that Greig carries himself,
Speaker 1: you know it's he's he's more mature than the average. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, the guy goes to mind early at night.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's not like the closer goes home and plays Fortnite,
Speaker 1: and you know, Greg Susman hasn't played video games since
Speaker 1: he was five years old. So yeah, he's like an adult.
Speaker 1: He's just you know, he's a he's a mature gentleman.
Speaker 1: That's that's how that's what we'll call it. So he's
Speaker 1: out playing Bengo, he's cleaning his monocle. He's not here
Speaker 1: until Thursday is the next time that Craig will be back,
Speaker 1: and that is the day that I will be gone.
Speaker 1: So we'll be reunited on Friday. Venture I mentioned I
Speaker 1: want to recap this year's top finishers at each position.
Speaker 1: Let's go over the quarterbacks first and foremost. Here, four
Speaker 1: point passing touchdowns half PPR. That's the way that you
Speaker 1: should be playing fantasy football. If you play in a
Speaker 1: six point passing touch on league or a full PPR league,
Speaker 1: you should probably look into change again. I just you
Speaker 1: you don't like full point PPR. I don't like full
Speaker 1: point PPR because if you catch a screen pass for
Speaker 1: zero yards, you should not be awarded a full point
Speaker 1: for that. That is my opinion that you didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: You called the ball. I could catch the ball too,
Speaker 1: you know you didn't. There was no skill involved catch
Speaker 1: a ball for zero yards. You shouldn't get a full
Speaker 1: point for that. So in me, in my opinion, I
Speaker 1: think that over values wide receivers as well. Um so
Speaker 1: I'm not really it's a full PPR like half PPR.
Speaker 1: More in four point passing touchdowns. Here were your top
Speaker 1: twelve quarterbacks. We have a little graphic downstairs. If the
Speaker 1: gentleman downstairs and the pit can throw that up for me.
Speaker 1: Number one Lamar Jackson, of course, the most fantasy points
Speaker 1: per game of all time. Number two Dak Prescott, Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson, Jamis Winston. After yesterday, so fitting throws a
Speaker 1: walk off pick six. First player in NFL history with
Speaker 1: thirty touchdowns and thirty interceptions. Guess how much money he
Speaker 1: wants to make this allseason? Thirty million dollars. The jokes
Speaker 1: on you. Jamis Winston number six, Josh Allen number seven,
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes eight, Kyler Murray nine, Aaron Rodgers ten, Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz eleven, Matt Ryan number twelve, t F B tom
Speaker 1: Efan Brady go. According to Fantasy pros ADP, I looked
Speaker 1: us up before the show venture, five of these top
Speaker 1: twelve quarterbacks were drafted out of the top top twelve
Speaker 1: a DP before the season. That would include Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: jack Prescott, Jamis Winston, Josh Allen, and Kyler Murray. Makes sense.
Speaker 1: I mentioned that Gregor Roman leaving the Baltimore Roavens potentially
Speaker 1: leaving UH. The Cleveland Browns have requested to interview Gregor
Speaker 1: Roman for their head coaching vacancy. Nobody knows if he's
Speaker 1: gonna leave or not. I know. Mark Ingram set out
Speaker 1: a tweet saying fail, Well, it hasn't happened, yet mark
Speaker 1: Ingram would slow down a little bit. Uh. I have
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson as a serious regression candidate going into next year,
Speaker 1: like for for obvious reasons, right, you know, you were
Speaker 1: just about to bring up Patrick Mahomes, and I think
Speaker 1: that's a great place to start. Mahomes last year eight
Speaker 1: point six percent touchdown rate, this year five point four percent.
Speaker 1: He regressed by nearly by over three percent. Touchdown rate
Speaker 1: is the rate of how many of your past attempts
Speaker 1: go for touchdowns. In the NFL SO league averages right
Speaker 1: around four and a half percent. If you're an elite quarterback,
Speaker 1: you can consistently go for over six percent, maybe seven percent.
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson this year is at nine percent. That is astronomical.
Speaker 1: The rushing production is likely going to be there, although
Speaker 1: if he loses Greg Roman. Roman has been the o
Speaker 1: C of Tyrod Taylor Colin Kaepernick in their career, so
Speaker 1: he knows how to get the most out of mobile quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: There's no I don't want to take anything away from
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. If people who are listening watching this thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: you're just a hater Lamar Jackson, that's not true. I
Speaker 1: drafted Lamar Jackson, you want me money this year, and
Speaker 1: if it weren't for him going in the first or
Speaker 1: second round next year, I would like to draft him again.
Speaker 1: But because of that, I think that he is going
Speaker 1: to be a prime regression candidate in I will not
Speaker 1: draft him in the first two rounds. What say you,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I mean, I think it's just obvious.
Speaker 1: You know, he's done so much that how could he
Speaker 1: not regress. We saw happy with Pat Mahomes, who had
Speaker 1: a ridiculous season. We didn't think we'd see a season
Speaker 1: like that again from anybody. We thought, Wow, look at
Speaker 1: this guy, first first full season playing and he's breaking
Speaker 1: records touchdowns. Now, here's the obvious thing. Here's the thing
Speaker 1: that stands out. This is why you're right. Four hundred
Speaker 1: one pass attempts, okay, and he's not gonna pass the
Speaker 1: ball a lot. It's gonna be around four hundred fifty tops.
Speaker 1: Most quarterbacks that throw the ball a lot talking about
Speaker 1: six hundred plus. So he had thirty six touchdowns, that
Speaker 1: was most in the league. That's passing, that's not including rushing.
Speaker 1: That's very hard to do. And you know, touchdowns are
Speaker 1: kind of a fickle thing. So for sure, I just
Speaker 1: see the passing touchdown regression to be heavy. Maybe he
Speaker 1: rushes for a few more because he had seven, he
Speaker 1: bounces out a little bit more. But there could even
Speaker 1: be some regression on the rushing side. No, I mean
Speaker 1: he ran for yardage, that's a lot of He was
Speaker 1: six in the NFL and rushing. He had a freak athlete.
Speaker 1: The things that Lamar Jackson could do, it is uncanny.
Speaker 1: But you've got to realize that heading into next season,
Speaker 1: people are gonna scheme for him differently. They're gonna play
Speaker 1: more dbs on the field. They're gonna try and get
Speaker 1: more speed on the field in order to track him
Speaker 1: down and not let him break off these huge chunk
Speaker 1: rushing plays. They're gonna scheme for Lamar Jackson a little
Speaker 1: bit differently. So everyone looks at what he did this year.
Speaker 1: He just had the most Fantasy points by a quarterback
Speaker 1: in NFL history. Venture realized this. He played fifteen games.
Speaker 1: What he did was historical. It was amazing. He just
Speaker 1: averaged the most fantasy points per game in NFL history.
Speaker 1: Seven point anyone for any anyone. This is in standard leagues.
Speaker 1: In PPR, that would be Marshall Folk in two thousand
Speaker 1: average thirty two point eight five in standard leagues. Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson just average nearly twenty fantasy points. That was the
Speaker 1: most in NFL history. But he is a prime regression candidate.
Speaker 1: You can't just look at what he did this year
Speaker 1: and say, oh, well, I'm gonna expect that production again
Speaker 1: next year. He's worth of being a top five pick.
Speaker 1: Greg Susman, I hope that you are out in Florida
Speaker 1: listening right now, because Lamar Jackson is not going to
Speaker 1: repeat what he did this year for many reasons touchdown regression.
Speaker 1: Greg Roman might not be there uh the league. I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna scheme for him differently. I want to
Speaker 1: go to the other side of this, a positive touchdown
Speaker 1: regression candidate and somebody who everyone's gonna be excited about.
Speaker 1: I can already see the hype getting out of control.
Speaker 1: It's what is it. It's the it's December nine time
Speaker 1: we are drafting August one. The hype on Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: is going to be out of control. Ventra, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you that right now because he just finishes QB eight
Speaker 1: as a rookie. As a rookie, this guy ran for
Speaker 1: over five hundred yards second one quarterbacks with five four
Speaker 1: rushing yards behind Lamar Jackson. And he had a touchdown
Speaker 1: rate of three point seven percent in so if we're
Speaker 1: just talking about statistical regression, he's up he league averages
Speaker 1: four and a half. If he had a league average
Speaker 1: touchdown rate, he would have had four more touchdown passes
Speaker 1: this year, and he would have finished a the QB
Speaker 1: six as a rookie. This guy is going to get
Speaker 1: better now. You can I just play Devil's advocate and
Speaker 1: say teams are gonna start to scheme for Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: and and that's fair. You know he's gonna lose some
Speaker 1: rushing yardage, but I think that the passing yardage and
Speaker 1: the passing touchdowns are going to go up. Second year
Speaker 1: with Cliff Kingsbury. They run high octane offense, and I frankly,
Speaker 1: I think that they're gonna surround him with better weapons.
Speaker 1: I think Isabella is gonna get more involved. Dan Arnold
Speaker 1: has come on late this season here for the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, I think they probably draft another wide receiver,
Speaker 1: signed somebody, or you know, Kim Butler will be back
Speaker 1: for this thing. Will be the running back. Maybe maybe
Speaker 1: if they resign him. I think the sky is gonna
Speaker 1: be the limit for Kyler Murray. The problem ventures everyone
Speaker 1: else is gonna think so he's gonna I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be againting drafted too high. Way want to draft
Speaker 1: the quarterback. This is the fact of the matter is
Speaker 1: at quarterback that I know you want these guys, but
Speaker 1: there's just too many good ones. My plan before we
Speaker 1: head to the break, I'll tell you this is what
Speaker 1: you should do next. This is what I did this.
Speaker 1: You draft the cheapest quarterback that runs the ball a lot,
Speaker 1: because they'll give you a nice floor. That was Josh
Speaker 1: and you were all over Josh Owen and what else
Speaker 1: see you? Yeah, So you do something like that, I
Speaker 1: think it'll pay off. I don't think you want to
Speaker 1: pay up to too much. You're right to Kyl Miley
Speaker 1: in for a big yaoute. I agree. Everyone's gonna be
Speaker 1: all over Kyler Murray. We'll put a bow on the
Speaker 1: quarterback discussion when we come back. Move over to the
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Fantasy BFFs. I am Frank Stamfle,
Speaker 1: joined by the Closer Chris Ventra No Greg Susman today
Speaker 1: or tomorrow. He's out gallop vanting in Florida right now,
Speaker 1: he's in Fort Lauderdale. I mentioned I wanted to put
Speaker 1: a little bow on the quarterback position when we came back,
Speaker 1: and I remember telling everybody my advice on the quarterback
Speaker 1: position coming into draft season was I was targeting, and
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people don't like to draft
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks, but I would take one safe quarterback and
Speaker 1: I would take one upside quarterback. I did this in
Speaker 1: my NFFC league that I shared with my buddy Constantine,
Speaker 1: who was in the chat. Shout out, Shout out to Constantine,
Speaker 1: Shout out to the shout out to the whole chat,
Speaker 1: Shout out to the goon squad while we're at it
Speaker 1: as well, and we drafted Tom Brady and Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: It worked out perfectly well. Now, of course you have
Speaker 1: to hit on that upside quarterback, but the upside quarterbacks
Speaker 1: coming into this year venture were Dak Prescott, Jameis Winston,
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Kyler Murray. Like the fantasy in the tree
Speaker 1: is very sharp nowadays, and a lot of people kind
Speaker 1: of realized who these upside quarterbacks were the only difference
Speaker 1: that I will make heading into next year. And I've
Speaker 1: said this, I'm gonna do it at the tight end position,
Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. I don't care about wasting my
Speaker 1: bench spots. Everyone says I want to load up on
Speaker 1: running backs and wide receivers on my bench. False. What
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. I'm gonna draft two upside quarterbacks and
Speaker 1: two upside tight ends late in every one of my drafts,
Speaker 1: and I think, based on our knowledge, we'll be able
Speaker 1: to hit on one of each of those between a
Speaker 1: quarterback and a tight end. If you did that this year,
Speaker 1: you would have wound up with a Mark Andrews, with
Speaker 1: a Darren Waller, and the same thing at the quarterback position.
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm gonna be doing heading into next year.
Speaker 1: You know, whether the hype guys are Daniel Jones or
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow or Sam Donald in his third year if
Speaker 1: he could take that next step, or finding another quarterback
Speaker 1: that can make plays with his legs. Whoever it might be, um,
Speaker 1: but that is gonna be the strategy for me heading
Speaker 1: into quarterback position and just say two upside quarterbacks late
Speaker 1: so bigly one that could make plays with his legs.
Speaker 1: I agree with you there, Yeah, just so you have
Speaker 1: that nice floor. I think at this point in time
Speaker 1: and fantasy used to maybe in a standard twelve team league.
Speaker 1: Not standard, but I mean like typical twelve team league. Uh,
Speaker 1: you're not drafting a backup quarterback always, like if you
Speaker 1: drift down Rogers. Now I drifting a backup normally, but yeah,
Speaker 1: you would have had to this year if you had
Speaker 1: Rogers because he didn't really get it done as a
Speaker 1: QB one for the most part consistently this year. So
Speaker 1: I think having two quarterbacks is fine, and I think
Speaker 1: you should do that because you could have your upside
Speaker 1: guy with legs, you know, so like a Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: You might be worried. I was worried about drifting Josh
Speaker 1: Allen this year had scared me. You don't want him
Speaker 1: as a QB one. So I took Golf. Now that
Speaker 1: didn't work. Josh Allen saved me. So that's why you
Speaker 1: got the two took similar to me, you know, I
Speaker 1: took Brady in and Lamar Jackson. You took Josh Allen
Speaker 1: and and golf and it worked out, right, It worked out.
Speaker 1: So that's why I think instead of just wasting that
Speaker 1: roster spot on the veteran next year for the safe
Speaker 1: guy like a Jared Goff. You thought he was safe,
Speaker 1: Brady ended up being fine. I never used him because
Speaker 1: I had Lamar Jackson. Just take two upside guys. You
Speaker 1: could do that, yeah, and just hope one of them
Speaker 1: hits it. I mean, you give yourself a higher percentage
Speaker 1: of hitting the more upside quarterbacks that you draft. So
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think Daniel Jones is gonna be
Speaker 1: one that people are gonna be really all over because
Speaker 1: he can make some plays with his legs. He has
Speaker 1: a solid supporting cast. They should improve the offensive line
Speaker 1: in the off season. I we'll see what happens. You
Speaker 1: donna have a bite. Twenty six touchdowns, twelve picks total.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, did you really throw? He threw ran
Speaker 1: for two Wow. I mean that is pretty impressive. He
Speaker 1: didn't even play what the first two games of the year.
Speaker 1: What do you do coming in the third, fourth game? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So yeah, that is pretty impressive. Man. I think Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones is gonna be one of those players heading into
Speaker 1: next year. There's so many you could wait, there's not
Speaker 1: as many. It's actually kind of scarce, but you get
Speaker 1: a lot of good ones late. Right, you can find
Speaker 1: those guys this year was kled. You're gonna find the
Speaker 1: no offense next year. T J. Hockenson. Those are gonna
Speaker 1: be players that we know. They have pedigree, they have talent,
Speaker 1: they got the experience. You're hoping that their role is expanded.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, So between No and and and Hockinson, I
Speaker 1: brought up you know, John hu Smith I think is
Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting name next year. And Thomas. I
Speaker 1: think Tyler Higbie would have been in that mix. But
Speaker 1: he's just been so good. I think he's kind of
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a tough past past that, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be a top ten tight end draft. I mean the
Speaker 1: end of the season a half point, people like you said, crazy,
Speaker 1: five straight games with at least und yards or a touchdown. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he didn't get to a hundred yards,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. He had eight yards and a touchdown. The
Speaker 1: monster insane. So I think Tyler would have been in
Speaker 1: that group, but he's he's done a lot for himself,
Speaker 1: and because of that, he's gonna be drafted as a
Speaker 1: top ten, maybe even a top eight tight end. I
Speaker 1: think the strategy with tight end is a little similar
Speaker 1: to wide receiver. But the thing is you have much
Speaker 1: less guys to choose from, so you want to go
Speaker 1: for a tight end that I think gets a lot
Speaker 1: of targets in the system that they're in, like Waller.
Speaker 1: A lot of people predicted rightly that Waller would be
Speaker 1: a big hit because tight end. Yeah, the year before
Speaker 1: it was Jared Cook Exactly, targets are king. I think
Speaker 1: with tight end, you know you get with any position,
Speaker 1: with any pass catching position or any targets are king.
Speaker 1: But it's harder to what wide receivers. Sometimes it's hard
Speaker 1: to find who's gonna get a lot of targets who's
Speaker 1: not at tight end. If you know he's a big
Speaker 1: party system or if you know the receivers aren't great
Speaker 1: around him, you know he's gonna get a lot of targets,
Speaker 1: a lot of receptions and a half point PPR PPRF format.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get consistent points. I give you a hot
Speaker 1: take right now at the tight end position, I know
Speaker 1: the system you should be avoiding at all costs. You
Speaker 1: ready for this Bruce Arian system? He killed me all yeah,
Speaker 1: Howard Man, I mean everybody else was on it except me.
Speaker 1: Well you're doing Frank god I. Arians doesn't use the
Speaker 1: tight end, and I still took O. J. Howard to
Speaker 1: So talents. Don't draft O J. Howard, don't draft Camera Breake,
Speaker 1: do not draft a tight end of Bruce Arian system.
Speaker 1: It's interesting about how you know. I still think Howard
Speaker 1: is really good. I still think he's one of the
Speaker 1: most talented guys. Everything went wrong for him though, because
Speaker 1: he struggled earlier on in the season, and then he
Speaker 1: was in Bruce arians dog house. He wasn't playing. Cameron
Speaker 1: Braid started eating into his playing time. They started using O. J.
Speaker 1: Howard Moore as a blocker. Again, the targets weren't there.
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin broke out, Mike Evans was amazing at the
Speaker 1: end of the season, Brashad Perriman broke out, and on
Speaker 1: top of all of that, Bruce Arians doesn't like to
Speaker 1: use tight ends, so it was just a recipe for designs.
Speaker 1: Thing went wrong for O. J. How and Howard move.
Speaker 1: I heard I'm here to pu up his contract situation,
Speaker 1: but I believe he's still under contract. I'm here rumblings
Speaker 1: that he might get traded to New England. Well, that's
Speaker 1: what people were talking about at the deadline, and would
Speaker 1: be Tampa Bay shot everything down. They're like, no, we're
Speaker 1: not We're not doing moving o J. Howard, which I understand.
Speaker 1: They used a top I believe, top ten pick, top
Speaker 1: fifteen pick onward. It was a first round pick on J. Howard.
Speaker 1: The Tampa Bay Bucks invested a lot of draft capital
Speaker 1: in O. J. How so they shouldn't give up on him.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you gotta use the guy, right,
Speaker 1: so trade him for some stock, get some stock back
Speaker 1: for him. And what are they gonna get from though
Speaker 1: you gotta second round pick. What would they really though?
Speaker 1: Maybe failed tight end prospects so far not failed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's still young, and yeah he was. He was really
Speaker 1: good last year. That's why you know, everyone thought he
Speaker 1: was gonna break Bruce. He is under contract through through,
Speaker 1: so it was under free. Please somebody comes SA If
Speaker 1: New England gets him, I say, he goes into top
Speaker 1: eight tight end territory. Even more than that, yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: even higher. I mean, look with New England. They're gonna
Speaker 1: have decisions to make too. I mean, we say this
Speaker 1: every year, but it is becoming a question as to
Speaker 1: whether or not Tom Brady is gonna be back with
Speaker 1: this team. It really is. I don't know that he's
Speaker 1: gonna be back, so interesting, we'll see what happens. Let's
Speaker 1: throve over to the runn back position. We'll kind of
Speaker 1: preview this before we hit the break here and just
Speaker 1: let you know the top twelve finishers in half PPR
Speaker 1: in the fantasy football season. Of course, Christian McCaffrey was
Speaker 1: number one, Completely ridiculous. How about this venture. He had
Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty two point nine more fantasy points
Speaker 1: than the second running back that was closest to him,
Speaker 1: which Jones. Aaron Jones finished is the RB two. CMC
Speaker 1: had a hundred and twenty two point nine more points
Speaker 1: than him, and half PPR think about this. Duke Johnson
Speaker 1: finished with a hundred and thirty two fantasy points himself.
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey was an RB one and a flex running
Speaker 1: back combined in terms of his fantasy output. It's just
Speaker 1: completely ridiculous. I understand that from year to year it's
Speaker 1: kind of hard to repeat being the number one overall
Speaker 1: player in fantasy football or at the running back position.
Speaker 1: But he's done it two years in rows. I can't
Speaker 1: see how you can go anybody go with anybody outside
Speaker 1: of Christian McCaffrey barring some kind of like crazy offseason
Speaker 1: surgery or injury. When it comes to McCaffrey, Your RB
Speaker 1: two I referenced him, Aaron Jones, then Derrick Henry Ezekiel.
Speaker 1: Elliott hasn't finished below RB five in any season he
Speaker 1: has been in the league seventeen. I'll use fantasy points
Speaker 1: per game because he only played ten games due to suspension.
Speaker 1: He finishes RB three in Fantasy points per game. Uh
Speaker 1: in tween here, he's so safe. Your number five running
Speaker 1: back Dalvin Cook, then Austin Ekeler, Nick Chub, mark Ingram
Speaker 1: Leonard four Nette. I was wrong about four net for sure,
Speaker 1: Sae Kwon Barkley, Chris Carson, and Alvin Kamara. How about this.
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara has exactly eighty one receptions in each season
Speaker 1: he's been in the NFL, exactly eighty one wild that's safe.
Speaker 1: That's safe. That that's consistency. Right there, You're gonna be
Speaker 1: able to get Kamara at a discount next year, late
Speaker 1: first round pick, mid to late first round picks. And
Speaker 1: if you look at his yardage, the only thing that
Speaker 1: came back was his touchdowns, and that's a fickle thing.
Speaker 1: It's hard to predict us. His first two seasons, he
Speaker 1: had at least thirteen total touchdowns. We knew at some
Speaker 1: point that that was gonna come down. But this year,
Speaker 1: for example, I'll pull this up for you, it was
Speaker 1: he had what do he had like six seven touchdowns total?
Speaker 1: Had six. He finished with five rushing and one receiving.
Speaker 1: So he had six touchdowns, which still isn't horrible, but
Speaker 1: he had a three in one game in this offense,
Speaker 1: he should have had more, but he had three in
Speaker 1: one game also. And if you remember, there was a
Speaker 1: lot of weeks where he had touchdowns called back. I
Speaker 1: remember the Tampa Bay came comes to mind. Over this
Speaker 1: final month he had he had two or three touchdowns
Speaker 1: called back due to penalty. So if he finished the
Speaker 1: season with nine total touchdowns, we're talking about this completely different.
Speaker 1: He's a top six seven running back once again. So
Speaker 1: the touchdowns, yes, they're hard to predict. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: why we say it every single year. Davantae Adams. Each
Speaker 1: of the past two three seasons was up over double
Speaker 1: digit touchdowns. This year he didn't score week eleven or
Speaker 1: week twelve, so you know, touchdowns are really hard to predict.
Speaker 1: And Camar just to say how efficient he still is?
Speaker 1: Four point seven yards per carry on the ground on
Speaker 1: a hundred seventy one touches. He should get more touches,
Speaker 1: I think too, but the eighty one catches and five
Speaker 1: three yards, so he's doing everything else great. I will
Speaker 1: say this, does it worry you that his yard per
Speaker 1: touch has gone down every season he's been in the
Speaker 1: NFL seven point seven as a rookie, five point eight
Speaker 1: in year two, five point three in year three. I'm
Speaker 1: not worried. You're not worried about it. He was badly
Speaker 1: injury as well. Let's talk more about the running back position.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Fantasy best Friends Forever, that is
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Speaker 1: I wanted to uh kind of talk about some more
Speaker 1: of these running backs here the top twelve finishers. We
Speaker 1: went over it before the break and I mentioned how
Speaker 1: great Christian McCaffrey was this year, mentioned Ezekiel Elliott how
Speaker 1: consistent he has been in his NFL career so far.
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara has been extremely consistent as well. I think
Speaker 1: you'll get him at a bit of a discount. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to mention this and get your thoughts on
Speaker 1: it as well. Venture four running backs inside the top
Speaker 1: twelve this year had under forty receptions and half half
Speaker 1: PPR Derrick Henry, Mark Ingram, Nick Chubb, and Chris Carson.
Speaker 1: This is the most since two thousand and sixteen, the
Speaker 1: most running backs UH to finish inside the top twelve
Speaker 1: with under forty receptions. Now, these are guys that dominate
Speaker 1: carries for their team. They come from great rushing offenses. UH,
Speaker 1: they dominate red zone work as well, so they score
Speaker 1: a lot of touchdowns. So they were safe in that regard.
Speaker 1: And obviously that's how you identify the running backs that
Speaker 1: you can draft who don't catch passes. It's, you know,
Speaker 1: it's guys that have to get it done in touch
Speaker 1: in a touchdown department and and with the big chunk plays.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what Derrick, Henry, Ingram, Chub, and Carson
Speaker 1: were all able to do. What is your biggest takeaway
Speaker 1: from that heading into the season, Because I feel like
Speaker 1: more often than not, fantasy analysts and it's the entire
Speaker 1: industry people kind of shy away from players like this
Speaker 1: because they don't catch passes. Everyone plays in either half
Speaker 1: PPR or full PPR nowadays. There's a lesson to be
Speaker 1: learned from this. E Y spoke a lot about this
Speaker 1: throughout the course of the season. He said, fantasy points
Speaker 1: are fantasy points. I don't care how you give them
Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, touchdowns might be a little flukey, But
Speaker 1: when when you're the only running back on your team
Speaker 1: that's getting that red zone work, is it really that flukey?
Speaker 1: I would say with running backs like this, it wasn't flukey.
Speaker 1: So what's your biggest takeaway from this? So? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think the thing is you have to understand is as
Speaker 1: we think as analysts, with thinking in a half point
Speaker 1: in a full point PPR, you're looking at the running backs.
Speaker 1: If they could do both run and catch the passes,
Speaker 1: they give you a safer floor for consistency throughout the season.
Speaker 1: That's the idea. The problem is you could have a
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry who's consistent without doing that. Consistency can come
Speaker 1: from a running back who doesn't catch passes. And that
Speaker 1: was my big mistake this year. I was touting all
Speaker 1: guys that catch passes and not guys that don't because
Speaker 1: the first year I hopped off Henry because I do
Speaker 1: like Henry because he's a freak, but word means he
Speaker 1: doesn't catch passing. Michelle Michelle worried because he doesn't catch passes. Now,
Speaker 1: they do have these low flaws at times, but if
Speaker 1: they're in a system, the right system, you know, they
Speaker 1: run the ball a lot. You're the RB one like
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry is. You know, I get in touches stolen
Speaker 1: from you. All that counts. So a lot of it
Speaker 1: is opportunity and where you are. But it taught me
Speaker 1: the lesson that I can't just stay away from guys
Speaker 1: that don't catch passes when they're the main running back
Speaker 1: on their team and they're a good quality running back,
Speaker 1: a true old school running runner, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: without catching passes. I was buying into that too much
Speaker 1: this year, and I think for the past few years
Speaker 1: I was. So I learned something this year, and I
Speaker 1: will buy back into Derrick Henry next yet and guys
Speaker 1: like Nick Chubb. As long as there's not people taking
Speaker 1: away too many touches from them, I think those guys
Speaker 1: will still be at the top of the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the biggest takeaway. And I agree with you right
Speaker 1: like you could identify We easily could have identified this
Speaker 1: before the season. We didn't. We knew that Dean Lewis
Speaker 1: was not gonna have a big role in this Titans offense.
Speaker 1: While they were talking about all preseason was how this
Speaker 1: team was going to run through. The offense was gonna
Speaker 1: run through Derrick Henry. He was gonna be the workhorse
Speaker 1: you know people were talking about. But you're having this
Speaker 1: monster season. I'll tell you the only reason why I
Speaker 1: got off Derrick Henry was because he had an injury
Speaker 1: during the during training game during preseason. I believe you
Speaker 1: had a hamstring injury. Normally, when you see something like that,
Speaker 1: when you see it was either hamstring or calf, right,
Speaker 1: But either way, whenever you see a soft tissue injury
Speaker 1: like that before the season even starts for a running back,
Speaker 1: nine times out of ten, that is something that lingers
Speaker 1: all season long. So that's why I was off Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1: I mean, I knew that he was gonna be the
Speaker 1: guy for his team. I just I got off of
Speaker 1: him for a different reason, ultimately the injury being there.
Speaker 1: But I mean, look at the running backs that we
Speaker 1: did like this year because we thought that they were
Speaker 1: gonna catch passes, David Johnson, James conn Or Levi on
Speaker 1: Bell right, we also, oh, these guys are gonna catch
Speaker 1: a ton of passes this year for their respective teams,
Speaker 1: and they didn't show up, and they didn't show up Ultimately, Soler,
Speaker 1: did I think that you will be able to identify
Speaker 1: those players, like, for example, Josh Jacobs next year, I
Speaker 1: think he's capable of catching passes. John Gruden and the
Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders offense hasn't used him that way yet. But
Speaker 1: even if he catches thirty to forty passes next year,
Speaker 1: he is someone that is going to consistently see close
Speaker 1: to twenty touches and he's gonna dominate red zone usage
Speaker 1: for the Oakland Raiders. Like There's no other running back
Speaker 1: on that team that I'm scared of. I believe DeAndre
Speaker 1: Washington's a free agent too, and they shouldn't cut into
Speaker 1: his time anyway, because he had a fantastic season. I
Speaker 1: mean full point eight yards per carry. Uh. He had
Speaker 1: fifty total yadds on the ground, beautiful. Uh. The only
Speaker 1: thing he lacked in was yet even touchdowns. You want
Speaker 1: to see a little more. But like we say, next year,
Speaker 1: you could have twelve. Would you be surprised? No, you're not,
Speaker 1: because it just so happened. He had seven this year,
Speaker 1: but twenty seven targets that's where you want to see
Speaker 1: the improvement. You want to see closer to fifty to
Speaker 1: sixty targets. I'm hoping forty catches. The guy can catch
Speaker 1: the ball. He showed it. You already talking. You're already
Speaker 1: doing the reception thing again. Venture Look, you're already doing
Speaker 1: it again. See you falling into the same trap. You're
Speaker 1: falling into the same trap once again. He's the RB one. So,
Speaker 1: like you said, even if he ends up with thirty catches,
Speaker 1: thirty five catches, I'm happy with Josh Jacobs to me
Speaker 1: as a solid RB two that I'll draft. If he
Speaker 1: does that, he's gonna he's gonna go high. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Because the talent is there, we've seen it. And the
Speaker 1: guy who's playing with a fractured shoulder too. So he's
Speaker 1: gonna be an RB one. We talked. I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be a low nd RB one drafted. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be a solid second round pick. Believe that. Would you
Speaker 1: buy into him as your r B one, your first
Speaker 1: drafted running back, Well, it'll always depend on who you
Speaker 1: take in the first round. But yeah, if I got
Speaker 1: like a Dre Hopkins in round one, if you start
Speaker 1: de Hop Josh Jacobs, that's pretty good, or even like, look,
Speaker 1: it's early ADP. We don't know where these guys are
Speaker 1: gonna go. But if Josh Jacobs slips to the end
Speaker 1: of the second round, if you could start your draft,
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, Josh Jacobs, that's amazing. That is beautiful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that is great. But why do I feel
Speaker 1: like kind of uncomfortable as Josh Jacob says my RB one.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's just me and I shouldn't feel it. Might
Speaker 1: be the recessions thing again, man, maybe telling you like
Speaker 1: it might just go something. It's so ingrained. It's your brain,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people think that way because you're right.
Speaker 1: When you catch passes as a running back, it does
Speaker 1: raise your floor, right because you know, even if you
Speaker 1: don't do a lot with those passes, if you say
Speaker 1: you run it inefficiently one day, or you know you
Speaker 1: don't have high yards per carry, you don't get a
Speaker 1: lot of yardage on the ground, or you don't score
Speaker 1: a touchdown. At least if you catch four or five
Speaker 1: passes for thirty forty y helps your floor. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on here, what you're saying, Mar is a great example.
Speaker 1: This year, regress severely and touchdowns right, uh, and didn't
Speaker 1: carry the ball ton like he normally doesn't. Still finish
Speaker 1: RB twelve because he So that's what it brings to
Speaker 1: the table. If you could get a guy that could
Speaker 1: do both. The problem is you gotta be careful to
Speaker 1: guys like Duke Johnson who's not getting any carries on
Speaker 1: the ground, only getting stuff through the air. And it's
Speaker 1: not always consistent, you know, it's hard to find. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but is kind of a satellite back himself. But but
Speaker 1: he's just a freak dude. He's just really but the
Speaker 1: way that he does it is just it's insane. And
Speaker 1: that'll be in a situation to pay attention to in
Speaker 1: the all season because Melvin Gordon is the free agent.
Speaker 1: So if Austin Ekeler has his back field to himself, man,
Speaker 1: you're talking about him as you know, a first round
Speaker 1: pick as well. Yeah, at least maybe the worst early
Speaker 1: second round. Yeah, he would probably be at that turn,
Speaker 1: right at that turn. Yeah, and I would touch it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And again look just to put a bow on the
Speaker 1: running backs that don't catch passes. Again, it's hard to
Speaker 1: it's hard to trust it completely. But I think for
Speaker 1: the most part, you know, when those guys are gonna
Speaker 1: be the main backs in their backfield. We knew that
Speaker 1: about Chubb, We knew that about Henry for the most part,
Speaker 1: we knew that about Josh Jacobs. When you have that
Speaker 1: combination of talent and Jacobs has a great offensive line,
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry has a great offensive line. The Browns didn't,
Speaker 1: but opportunity Chub is that great of a talent where
Speaker 1: you know he was able to exceed that. UM. I
Speaker 1: think it'll be easier to kind of point out those
Speaker 1: running backs heading into the two, like third, third, fourth
Speaker 1: round picks this year. Think about it. They all went
Speaker 1: in kind of that area except for Chubb. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: Carson Henry all third round picks because of their you know,
Speaker 1: they're not able to catch those passes and now look
Speaker 1: what they are. The thing is, will you go back
Speaker 1: into the well and draft these like, why would you
Speaker 1: drift Derrick Henry? Now you're paying up for him, that's
Speaker 1: the problem. Now you gotta pay for him coming off
Speaker 1: a season where he's gonna regress from or at least
Speaker 1: we think, because he's not gonna have however, you know,
Speaker 1: touchdowns again rushing, which he could do, but he carries.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. It's he could regress pretty easily.
Speaker 1: Look here, he had sixteen rushing and two receiving. The
Speaker 1: guy had eight team receptions and two of those went
Speaker 1: for touchdowns. He had eighteen total touchdowns. So you have
Speaker 1: to imagine that's gonna that number is gonna come back
Speaker 1: a little bit. But you're right, you'd you'd end up
Speaker 1: paying for what might be a career year for Derrick Henrys.
Speaker 1: Are gonna be all talking points throughout the course of
Speaker 1: the off season, um heading into the Fantasy football Draft.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to get your thoughts on this because
Speaker 1: I know that you're a big Dalvin Cook guy. And
Speaker 1: I said this last week and I started to look
Speaker 1: a little bit more into it. But I think Kareem
Speaker 1: Hunt is gonna leave the Cleveland Browns. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be back with this team. He's a restricted
Speaker 1: free agent. I think some team is going to sign
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt to starter money and I don't think that
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns are going to match whatever contract offer
Speaker 1: he gets. Don't need to do makes sense. They have
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb. You know they can find uh you know,
Speaker 1: uh supplementary running back in the draft, or you know,
Speaker 1: maybe it's Doncharle Hilliard, whatever it might be. I think
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt will be gone. And last week I said,
Speaker 1: if he has gone, I would take Nick Chubb over
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook next year as a top five pick. And
Speaker 1: I know that you are a You're a Dalvin Cook guy.
Speaker 1: And I thinks, like, I think it's close, Like you're
Speaker 1: literally nitpicking between Cook and Chubb here because they're both
Speaker 1: super talented. But for me, I look at what Nick
Speaker 1: Chubb did this year and the fact that all we
Speaker 1: kept talking about was that his offensive line wasn't great.
Speaker 1: The Browns offense was dysfunctional, it wasn't great either wasn't
Speaker 1: good at all. And he for half the season he
Speaker 1: had Kareem Hunt and he still finishes the RB seven.
Speaker 1: He nearly led the league in rushing if it wasn't
Speaker 1: for Derrick Henry going off again yesterday. He did all
Speaker 1: that under the circumstances that he was in. Right, I
Speaker 1: think that he has higher upside than than Dalvin Cook.
Speaker 1: I think it's so close. I think the differences and
Speaker 1: this is what washes each other out, is that Dalvin
Speaker 1: Cooks has this injury history now because now it's been
Speaker 1: three years in a row. We got injured at the
Speaker 1: end of the season this year. But he showed what
Speaker 1: he could bring to the table and how good he is. Chubb,
Speaker 1: his only flow is that he doesn't catch a ton
Speaker 1: of passes. Cream Hunt became that specialist. I'm happy himself.
Speaker 1: He might right, and he's a great runner, and he's
Speaker 1: just super talented. Both these guys super talent. I think
Speaker 1: you can't go wrong either way. The thing is the
Speaker 1: injury history lingers in your mind with Dalvin Cook. But
Speaker 1: I have a bit of taste from Chubb. In Week sixteen,
Speaker 1: douted it from me and that kind of left a
Speaker 1: bit of taste in my mouth. Uh yeah, the clothes.
Speaker 1: That doesn't forget five fantasy points for me. So but listen,
Speaker 1: I just like Dalvin Cook. So I think it's a
Speaker 1: preference thing. I think it's really that close. They're both
Speaker 1: gonna be there, guys, They're both gonna get a ton
Speaker 1: of touches. I just think I think the upside is
Speaker 1: almost exactly the same, and I also think the floor
Speaker 1: is similar. I think maybe Cook's floor is a little higher,
Speaker 1: just because they'll catch more passes. Once again, I'm going
Speaker 1: back to this, but I had to break out of it.
Speaker 1: It's a little higher for that reason. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't know how many passes Chubb is gonna catch. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm happy you brought up the targets and receptions because
Speaker 1: for these two Dalvin Cook on the season had fifteen
Speaker 1: percent of the target chair for the Minnesota Vikings. In
Speaker 1: games that Nick Chubb played without Kareem Hunt, he had
Speaker 1: a twelve percent target share, So he wasn't far off.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about over the course of a
Speaker 1: full season, Nick Chubb. If Kareem Hunt wasn't there. Remember
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt came in and soaked up all the running
Speaker 1: back targets and receptions. If he's not there, Nick Chubb
Speaker 1: probably finishes the season with close to fifty receptions, maybe
Speaker 1: even more than fifty receptions. He could be a true
Speaker 1: elite work he can. And you know, I looked at
Speaker 1: these advanced numbers that we like to use the analytics
Speaker 1: for running backs, and Chubb was first in breakaway runs
Speaker 1: those are runs of more than fifteen yards. First in
Speaker 1: yards created This comes according to Player Profiler. Second in
Speaker 1: yards after contact per attempt. That's from Pro Football Focus
Speaker 1: second in avoided tackles. So Nick Chubb has the ability
Speaker 1: to break out long runs make opposing defenders miss, and
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook can do that as well, but the numbers
Speaker 1: at lie he doesn't do it as good. Six and
Speaker 1: breakaway runs fourth in yards created, sixteenth in yards after
Speaker 1: contact per attempt, tied for eighth in avoided tackles. So look,
Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna have to do next year.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to split hairs. You don't you don't
Speaker 1: want to get your first round pick wrong because we
Speaker 1: were doing this this year for you know, David Johnson
Speaker 1: versus Ezekie Elliott, and if you chose the wrong one,
Speaker 1: you were screwed. Then you were screwed. I don't think
Speaker 1: in this case, if they're both healthy, I don't think
Speaker 1: you could go wrong. Maybe because of the healthy Chub
Speaker 1: you take over call. Yeah, I owe either way you're
Speaker 1: you're going. I'm getting the closer in on the Chub.
Speaker 1: I'm getting the closer give him ub. I know you
Speaker 1: heard the promo a million times from spitting speeds, give
Speaker 1: the closer all of the Chubb. I want to take
Speaker 1: Chubb as well. Man top five pick for me in
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Speaker 1: back to the Fantasy best Friends Forever live on the
Speaker 1: Sports Grid TV Network. Get on the Grid. I am
Speaker 1: Frank Stanfeld. He is the closer Chris bench for the
Speaker 1: host of the Fantasy Football Frenzy right here on the
Speaker 1: Sports Grid Network as well. Vencher I noticed when when
Speaker 1: we go to break a lot on the Fantasy Football Frenzy,
Speaker 1: you like to throw some pump fakes around, some pump
Speaker 1: you're you have you have a little you have a
Speaker 1: little quarterback blood in those veins. Because I remember we
Speaker 1: we went out one day we filmed a little uh
Speaker 1: producer action one on one game between Alex Paisano and
Speaker 1: Brian Barstol'brian down in the pair and the little Steve.
Speaker 1: I didn't know we had this readily available. But look
Speaker 1: at the great shop by Reducers. Well done, look at me,
Speaker 1: Look at this slinging it boy, look at this. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Brian car But we got to get back
Speaker 1: out there and play. I was gonna say, ready, let's
Speaker 1: give the audience a little bit of a Lets see,
Speaker 1: let's see those hands right sitting hand to hate. I'm
Speaker 1: a safety, but hit me up. Look at this. We
Speaker 1: have to make it back out there and have a
Speaker 1: little uh friendly sports grade Yeah game, bring on, uh
Speaker 1: farm four whatever? I mean, hey, get as many people
Speaker 1: as we can. You know, you get paid. What position
Speaker 1: do you think Greg Sauser would pay? Play? That's tough,
Speaker 1: that's tough. I've got nothing. What are we gonna do?
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, oh he could deliver, he could deliver us
Speaker 1: water long snapper, love snapper snapper. Maybe we'll get a deflection,
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't know. We'll have to figure
Speaker 1: it out. We'll have to set it up as well. Here,
Speaker 1: we'll we'll hopefully get some some camera work as well,
Speaker 1: so we can. We can we can let the good
Speaker 1: people out there, the viewers. You did get camera work
Speaker 1: that day, though I tried try, I had. I was
Speaker 1: working with a camera phone is all I had. I
Speaker 1: did want to before we wrap up the show here,
Speaker 1: I'm dilly down here talking about you know, stupid football
Speaker 1: on where Greg Susan is gonna play on the field.
Speaker 1: But I didn't want to ask you. Just wanted to
Speaker 1: get your thoughts before the playoffs get started, because this
Speaker 1: is the last show that I will be doing with you,
Speaker 1: I believe, I think too. I'm gonna try and get
Speaker 1: Jim Day on. He doesn't know that yet, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try and ask him day if we could get
Speaker 1: him on. Um. I wanted to get your super Bowl
Speaker 1: prediction right now on the air. I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chase the forty Niners over the case
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Baby. There you go, get your bets in
Speaker 1: on the forty Niners, on the Kansas City Chiefs. I'm
Speaker 1: with you. I like the Chiefs from the a f C.
Speaker 1: I like the New Orleans Saints. That will be my prediction.
Speaker 1: My preseason prediction was the Saints and the Steelers. If
Speaker 1: you all know how the Steelers worked out, that is
Speaker 1: Chris Venture. I am Frank Standfeld will be back again tomorrow,
Speaker 1: we hope,