1 00:00:08,245 --> 00:00:14,125 Speaker 1: School of Humans. Hello everyone, Welcome to Cadaver Gaws, the 2 00:00:14,165 --> 00:00:16,285 Speaker 1: podcast where we talk about all of the ways that 3 00:00:16,405 --> 00:00:19,845 Speaker 1: people have died throughout history to cope with our own mortality. 4 00:00:20,325 --> 00:00:25,965 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Taylor, along with Gabby Hi and Nika Hello. 5 00:00:26,485 --> 00:00:30,045 Speaker 1: Oh hello. Okay, So today we're going to hear about 6 00:00:30,125 --> 00:00:34,805 Speaker 1: the death of an eighteenth century thief and a murderous woman. 7 00:00:35,725 --> 00:00:42,005 Speaker 1: Oh loved one. A woman is murderous. Yeah. So today's 8 00:00:42,045 --> 00:00:46,885 Speaker 1: trigger warnings. They're intense, you guys. They include poison, hanging, 9 00:00:47,045 --> 00:00:53,085 Speaker 1: explicit talk of penis and vagina, murder, vagina, and rape penis. 10 00:00:53,125 --> 00:00:56,485 Speaker 1: So these are bad. Yep. Rape, that's really bad. Oh 11 00:00:56,565 --> 00:01:00,765 Speaker 1: my god. Yep, it's intense. So you've been warned. Cue 12 00:01:00,765 --> 00:01:19,045 Speaker 1: the music. Okay, we loved that music as usual. Before 13 00:01:19,045 --> 00:01:22,125 Speaker 1: we get into it, I'm just really curious, Gabby. I 14 00:01:22,165 --> 00:01:25,285 Speaker 1: need to know how you came across your story today. 15 00:01:25,405 --> 00:01:27,205 Speaker 1: We all have our ways of finding things, but I'm 16 00:01:27,245 --> 00:01:29,405 Speaker 1: just I just feel like you you've found this in 17 00:01:29,445 --> 00:01:33,245 Speaker 1: a weird way or something. I don't know. Uh, well, 18 00:01:33,285 --> 00:01:37,605 Speaker 1: I googled Boner death, okay, and so this is how 19 00:01:37,645 --> 00:01:39,685 Speaker 1: I got to this one. You know, you do that 20 00:01:39,805 --> 00:01:42,165 Speaker 1: and then you look at Wikipedia for a while, and 21 00:01:42,205 --> 00:01:44,565 Speaker 1: then you're like, oh, here's something interesting, and then you 22 00:01:44,645 --> 00:01:47,885 Speaker 1: kind of like go off. You just go off, and 23 00:01:47,925 --> 00:01:53,605 Speaker 1: that's what happened. That's our very journalistic way of researching. Great. Yeah, 24 00:01:53,645 --> 00:01:56,765 Speaker 1: and one day I will donate to Wikipedia, but it 25 00:01:56,845 --> 00:01:59,685 Speaker 1: is not this day. But you just like randomly thought 26 00:01:59,685 --> 00:02:02,965 Speaker 1: bone or death. You were like, hmm, well, I have 27 00:02:03,085 --> 00:02:06,085 Speaker 1: been thinking a lot about boners in space for like 28 00:02:06,125 --> 00:02:08,005 Speaker 1: this joke I've been doing. So I was like, we 29 00:02:08,045 --> 00:02:10,125 Speaker 1: already had done some space death, so I was like, 30 00:02:10,165 --> 00:02:14,245 Speaker 1: what about boner, just regular bone, because you can't get 31 00:02:14,285 --> 00:02:16,725 Speaker 1: a boner in space, which I know is disappointing to everyone. 32 00:02:17,165 --> 00:02:19,605 Speaker 1: You can, but it's very hard. It's hard to get 33 00:02:19,725 --> 00:02:22,365 Speaker 1: very hard, like like hard in the Hahaway or hard 34 00:02:22,365 --> 00:02:25,285 Speaker 1: in the It's difficult to get hard in space because 35 00:02:25,325 --> 00:02:29,765 Speaker 1: like your testosterone also like ladies are people with vaginas 36 00:02:29,845 --> 00:02:32,925 Speaker 1: also difficult to get around. So it's just also in space, 37 00:02:32,965 --> 00:02:35,205 Speaker 1: you just your your libido drops loots, so you don't 38 00:02:35,205 --> 00:02:37,085 Speaker 1: even want to have sex in space. So I don't 39 00:02:37,085 --> 00:02:40,085 Speaker 1: know why we're going honestly, okay, literally elon musk, think 40 00:02:40,085 --> 00:02:43,805 Speaker 1: about that. How are we going to procreate if we 41 00:02:43,845 --> 00:02:47,085 Speaker 1: cannot get horny in space. That's true. That's the thing, 42 00:02:47,285 --> 00:02:49,245 Speaker 1: you know, because it's like, I can't mess around with 43 00:02:49,245 --> 00:02:52,565 Speaker 1: these limp dick motherfuckers anymore. So it's actually really sad 44 00:02:52,565 --> 00:02:55,005 Speaker 1: too because I was thinking about my sexual attraction to 45 00:02:55,005 --> 00:02:57,485 Speaker 1: the aliens and alien and now that makes me sad 46 00:02:57,485 --> 00:02:59,685 Speaker 1: because I'm like, wait, would I not be horny for 47 00:02:59,725 --> 00:03:01,365 Speaker 1: them in space? Would they have to come down to 48 00:03:01,485 --> 00:03:03,965 Speaker 1: Earth to ravish me? Yeah? That's why I had to 49 00:03:04,045 --> 00:03:06,725 Speaker 1: save the planet. Is so because the best boner you 50 00:03:06,725 --> 00:03:09,325 Speaker 1: can get is on this planet. So that's my appeal 51 00:03:09,365 --> 00:03:13,685 Speaker 1: to people. Okay, anyway, this is this is you know, 52 00:03:13,845 --> 00:03:16,565 Speaker 1: Taylor was like, let's not have a chaotic intro, but 53 00:03:16,725 --> 00:03:21,725 Speaker 1: I'm glad it then became a chaotic post intro. So 54 00:03:21,885 --> 00:03:25,445 Speaker 1: this is actually we're going to the eighteenth century. Okay, 55 00:03:25,965 --> 00:03:29,165 Speaker 1: no space, there's no space in this just boners maybe 56 00:03:29,365 --> 00:03:34,565 Speaker 1: space spoiler space. Is there more babies? There were more 57 00:03:34,605 --> 00:03:37,485 Speaker 1: babies orphan children, Yeah, because people were actually horning in 58 00:03:37,525 --> 00:03:42,405 Speaker 1: the eighteenth century, but most of them like died. It's 59 00:03:42,405 --> 00:03:44,245 Speaker 1: like one in five children at this point. We're probably 60 00:03:44,325 --> 00:03:49,005 Speaker 1: dying of smallpox. So this is like seventeen early seventeen hundreds, 61 00:03:49,165 --> 00:03:52,725 Speaker 1: and we're talking about this guy named Jack Shepherd, and 62 00:03:52,805 --> 00:03:55,725 Speaker 1: he was a super famous thief. He had like a 63 00:03:55,765 --> 00:03:59,245 Speaker 1: great moment in like seventeen twenty four because not only 64 00:03:59,325 --> 00:04:01,645 Speaker 1: was he a thief, he also was able to escape 65 00:04:01,685 --> 00:04:06,765 Speaker 1: from prison four times. Good for him, good for fucking him. 66 00:04:06,805 --> 00:04:08,965 Speaker 1: But yeah, so he was He was born into a 67 00:04:09,005 --> 00:04:12,365 Speaker 1: pretty poor family and started working in carpentry. But then 68 00:04:12,405 --> 00:04:15,125 Speaker 1: you know, he started boozing and getting getting with the 69 00:04:15,205 --> 00:04:18,485 Speaker 1: ladies of the night, you know, as you be doing. 70 00:04:18,565 --> 00:04:20,325 Speaker 1: And one time at this bar he would go to, 71 00:04:20,925 --> 00:04:22,685 Speaker 1: he met this dude who was like, hey, you should 72 00:04:22,725 --> 00:04:25,125 Speaker 1: just like start stealing stuff if you want money. So 73 00:04:25,205 --> 00:04:28,445 Speaker 1: he was like, that's a great idea. Um. So you know, 74 00:04:28,485 --> 00:04:31,085 Speaker 1: he was thieving and ship. But you know, he got arrested, 75 00:04:31,205 --> 00:04:33,565 Speaker 1: right But that's when, you know, he started escaping from 76 00:04:33,605 --> 00:04:35,805 Speaker 1: prisons and he did it, as I said, four times, 77 00:04:35,805 --> 00:04:39,605 Speaker 1: which is incredible. The first time, what he did was 78 00:04:39,725 --> 00:04:42,445 Speaker 1: he crawled through the ceiling of his cell because it 79 00:04:42,525 --> 00:04:45,045 Speaker 1: was just like a bunch of wood. And then it 80 00:04:45,125 --> 00:04:47,925 Speaker 1: was funny because there's like a crowd that gathered around 81 00:04:47,925 --> 00:04:50,085 Speaker 1: the prison. They're like, hey, someone's escaping up there. But 82 00:04:50,125 --> 00:04:52,205 Speaker 1: he had already kind of escaped and gotten down from 83 00:04:52,205 --> 00:04:55,125 Speaker 1: the roof, and he joined the crowd and he was like, yeah, 84 00:04:55,165 --> 00:04:59,325 Speaker 1: someone's escaping. We gotta go find him, dude, Oh my god. 85 00:04:59,445 --> 00:05:01,845 Speaker 1: And then he scampered away because you know, he was 86 00:05:01,885 --> 00:05:04,765 Speaker 1: good at distracting people, you know, a little misdirect little 87 00:05:04,845 --> 00:05:08,325 Speaker 1: thief act there like a magician. Yeah, he was great. 88 00:05:08,365 --> 00:05:11,845 Speaker 1: And the second time, he and his lady lover, who 89 00:05:11,925 --> 00:05:14,405 Speaker 1: was a lady of the night, they both were arrested 90 00:05:14,485 --> 00:05:16,565 Speaker 1: and basically he was able to get out of the window. 91 00:05:16,885 --> 00:05:18,365 Speaker 1: And you know, he had tied all like the bed 92 00:05:18,365 --> 00:05:21,365 Speaker 1: blankets together as like a rope. And something that people 93 00:05:21,405 --> 00:05:23,365 Speaker 1: always remarked on was like he was a very small 94 00:05:23,445 --> 00:05:25,765 Speaker 1: dude and his lady lover was a very large lady. 95 00:05:25,845 --> 00:05:28,925 Speaker 1: So people were like, wow, he's so strong lowering his lady. 96 00:05:28,965 --> 00:05:32,805 Speaker 1: Love love that. That's great. Also, I am trying to 97 00:05:32,805 --> 00:05:34,765 Speaker 1: find pictures of him to see if he was hot. 98 00:05:35,205 --> 00:05:38,045 Speaker 1: It seemed like he sported a buzz cut at one point, 99 00:05:38,085 --> 00:05:40,685 Speaker 1: which I mean, no, he had a pony tail and stuff. 100 00:05:40,725 --> 00:05:42,885 Speaker 1: He just had like some people said, like his hairline 101 00:05:42,925 --> 00:05:45,525 Speaker 1: was really far back, but they say he was very handsome, 102 00:05:46,165 --> 00:05:51,165 Speaker 1: so short King life I suppose short king and lack 103 00:05:51,205 --> 00:05:56,085 Speaker 1: of hairline life and well he didn't. Well now, it's 104 00:05:56,085 --> 00:05:57,845 Speaker 1: just there was this one picture of him in prison 105 00:05:57,885 --> 00:06:00,205 Speaker 1: that someone had drawn and then someone did a print 106 00:06:00,245 --> 00:06:02,045 Speaker 1: of it a few years later, and they had made 107 00:06:02,045 --> 00:06:04,885 Speaker 1: his hairline further back, and apparently that was something people 108 00:06:04,925 --> 00:06:08,445 Speaker 1: needed to call meent on as like a historical piece 109 00:06:08,485 --> 00:06:10,325 Speaker 1: of evidence for something. I don't know what the evidence 110 00:06:10,445 --> 00:06:12,165 Speaker 1: is or like what the representation of a like that 111 00:06:12,325 --> 00:06:15,525 Speaker 1: hair line is, but people were talking about it. Okay, 112 00:06:16,285 --> 00:06:19,325 Speaker 1: But his third time he escaped, they were like, Okay, 113 00:06:19,365 --> 00:06:22,805 Speaker 1: this motherfucker is like good at escaping, so we should, like, 114 00:06:23,005 --> 00:06:25,605 Speaker 1: you know, do take some more precautions. But they didn't 115 00:06:25,605 --> 00:06:28,325 Speaker 1: take that many precautions. What he had done is in 116 00:06:28,445 --> 00:06:31,485 Speaker 1: the door of his cell, like at the top, there 117 00:06:31,485 --> 00:06:33,965 Speaker 1: were some bars, and so he was able to file 118 00:06:34,005 --> 00:06:36,725 Speaker 1: one of the bars out. And then his lady lover 119 00:06:36,765 --> 00:06:39,685 Speaker 1: and this other friend of his, two women, they came 120 00:06:39,685 --> 00:06:42,445 Speaker 1: into the prison to visit him. And what they did 121 00:06:42,845 --> 00:06:45,285 Speaker 1: was one of the ladies who started flirting with the guard, 122 00:06:45,645 --> 00:06:49,205 Speaker 1: you know, to distract him, and then his ladylover gave 123 00:06:49,325 --> 00:06:53,085 Speaker 1: him a dress basically some women's clothes, so he wore 124 00:06:53,125 --> 00:06:55,165 Speaker 1: the women's He put the women's clothes on and snuck 125 00:06:55,205 --> 00:06:58,325 Speaker 1: out through this bar he had filed down. And you know, 126 00:06:58,365 --> 00:07:00,205 Speaker 1: if a man is just dressed in women's clothes, you 127 00:07:00,285 --> 00:07:04,965 Speaker 1: just can't tell anymore, you know, I guess. Also, it's 128 00:07:05,005 --> 00:07:07,765 Speaker 1: like two went in and three women came out. So 129 00:07:07,805 --> 00:07:12,205 Speaker 1: I'm just like, you got the dude also to file 130 00:07:12,245 --> 00:07:14,405 Speaker 1: down some bars that would probably take some time. Like 131 00:07:14,445 --> 00:07:16,525 Speaker 1: they weren't checking in on him, Yeah, they weren't, I 132 00:07:16,525 --> 00:07:18,645 Speaker 1: mean because he had like filed it and then he 133 00:07:18,685 --> 00:07:20,325 Speaker 1: made sure he would like put it put the bar 134 00:07:20,405 --> 00:07:23,245 Speaker 1: back in, like you know when they were like passing by. 135 00:07:23,325 --> 00:07:25,885 Speaker 1: So and also he was able to shimmy through the 136 00:07:25,925 --> 00:07:28,125 Speaker 1: space because again he was small. He was a small 137 00:07:28,165 --> 00:07:31,525 Speaker 1: little dude. The fourth time, they were like, okay, let's 138 00:07:31,565 --> 00:07:35,165 Speaker 1: take this seriously, right, And he was put into this 139 00:07:35,205 --> 00:07:37,605 Speaker 1: cell that was called the Castle, that was like in 140 00:07:37,605 --> 00:07:40,605 Speaker 1: the center of the prison, and he was like chained 141 00:07:41,085 --> 00:07:42,885 Speaker 1: in irons and he was like chained to the ground 142 00:07:42,885 --> 00:07:45,205 Speaker 1: and stuff. But he like was very easy. It was 143 00:07:45,325 --> 00:07:47,205 Speaker 1: very easy for him to like get out of his 144 00:07:47,285 --> 00:07:49,045 Speaker 1: chains and he would like walk around his cell being 145 00:07:49,085 --> 00:07:53,805 Speaker 1: like nah, out of him mischievoa. He was just like 146 00:07:53,845 --> 00:07:56,565 Speaker 1: I think, like if he had any sort of thing, 147 00:07:56,725 --> 00:07:59,365 Speaker 1: he could like pick a lock. Basically, it seemed in 148 00:07:59,645 --> 00:08:02,645 Speaker 1: anyway for this one, he like somehow like was able 149 00:08:02,685 --> 00:08:05,525 Speaker 1: to like scurry through a chimney at some point, and 150 00:08:05,765 --> 00:08:07,525 Speaker 1: then he would like go back through the prison. He 151 00:08:07,565 --> 00:08:08,645 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I need to go back to my 152 00:08:08,685 --> 00:08:10,365 Speaker 1: cell to get some things now. So I mean he 153 00:08:10,445 --> 00:08:12,405 Speaker 1: was just like walking around and just like he got 154 00:08:12,525 --> 00:08:14,445 Speaker 1: escaped again and then he like got on top of 155 00:08:14,485 --> 00:08:17,485 Speaker 1: the roof of the prison, jumped to a neighboring house, 156 00:08:18,165 --> 00:08:20,205 Speaker 1: broke into the house, just like walked through the house, 157 00:08:20,245 --> 00:08:23,805 Speaker 1: nobody noticed, and then just like went to go you know, 158 00:08:24,045 --> 00:08:27,805 Speaker 1: thieving and whoring, so very different just like my ex. 159 00:08:27,965 --> 00:08:32,245 Speaker 1: I think, I'm not kidding. I really think my ex 160 00:08:32,365 --> 00:08:34,205 Speaker 1: is like the reading cart down to the same name, 161 00:08:34,725 --> 00:08:41,645 Speaker 1: literally small, mischievous, same name like charismatic, ah, and you 162 00:08:41,725 --> 00:08:44,245 Speaker 1: are just a large lady of the night, you know. 163 00:08:47,205 --> 00:08:51,445 Speaker 1: But then anyway, Jack he then because you know, he 164 00:08:51,485 --> 00:08:56,285 Speaker 1: was like a big alcoholic and doing like very nefarious. Obviously, um, 165 00:08:56,525 --> 00:09:00,285 Speaker 1: he didn't seem to be too cautious about the hole 166 00:09:00,965 --> 00:09:02,645 Speaker 1: he was also at this point he had been like 167 00:09:02,765 --> 00:09:06,245 Speaker 1: sentenced to death for thieving, so he should have maybe 168 00:09:06,285 --> 00:09:08,125 Speaker 1: kept a discard up, but what he did instead was 169 00:09:08,125 --> 00:09:11,845 Speaker 1: he robbed this pawn shop and then he was like 170 00:09:11,885 --> 00:09:14,405 Speaker 1: walking around town wearing these like really fancy clothes, Like 171 00:09:14,445 --> 00:09:16,525 Speaker 1: he was wearing like a black silk suit, and he 172 00:09:16,565 --> 00:09:18,405 Speaker 1: had a sword in all these rings. And they had 173 00:09:18,445 --> 00:09:20,765 Speaker 1: these two mistresses he had been hanging out with, and 174 00:09:20,805 --> 00:09:24,565 Speaker 1: he finally was arrested again and he was like blind drunk, 175 00:09:25,085 --> 00:09:28,405 Speaker 1: and then they put him in like another cell where 176 00:09:28,405 --> 00:09:30,325 Speaker 1: they like chained him down with like three hundred and 177 00:09:30,365 --> 00:09:33,005 Speaker 1: fifty pounds of like irons and stuff, and then at 178 00:09:33,005 --> 00:09:35,245 Speaker 1: that point he couldn't escape. But also then like he 179 00:09:35,325 --> 00:09:37,485 Speaker 1: was already this was all happening in seventeen twenty four, 180 00:09:37,725 --> 00:09:40,885 Speaker 1: and so like he was becoming very popular, like after 181 00:09:40,925 --> 00:09:43,245 Speaker 1: his second escape, people were like this motherfucker as cool 182 00:09:43,285 --> 00:09:45,245 Speaker 1: as hell, you know, because he came from a poor 183 00:09:45,285 --> 00:09:47,885 Speaker 1: family and so he was like became the symbol for 184 00:09:47,965 --> 00:09:50,125 Speaker 1: like the lower class and everyone was like really on 185 00:09:50,165 --> 00:09:53,925 Speaker 1: his side. But unfortunately, the fifth time he was arrested, 186 00:09:53,965 --> 00:09:56,285 Speaker 1: he was unable to escape. He tried several times, but 187 00:09:56,325 --> 00:09:58,325 Speaker 1: it just didn't work. But it was also funny because 188 00:09:58,325 --> 00:10:00,565 Speaker 1: while he was in prison, like rich ladies would like 189 00:10:00,605 --> 00:10:02,605 Speaker 1: come and they would like pay money to like come 190 00:10:02,725 --> 00:10:04,925 Speaker 1: look at him, you know, because they're like, this guy's 191 00:10:04,965 --> 00:10:11,045 Speaker 1: so well, you know, Okay, that's interesting. Yeah, so this 192 00:10:11,125 --> 00:10:13,365 Speaker 1: story is kind of kind of what happened next is 193 00:10:13,485 --> 00:10:15,605 Speaker 1: very similar to that time I was talking about that 194 00:10:15,685 --> 00:10:19,725 Speaker 1: lady Elizabeth Brown Rigg who had killed her apprentice in 195 00:10:20,205 --> 00:10:24,405 Speaker 1: eighteenth century London. So he was yeah, yeah, yeah. So 196 00:10:25,005 --> 00:10:27,485 Speaker 1: he was also sentenced to hang at Tyburn, which was 197 00:10:27,525 --> 00:10:30,725 Speaker 1: like the famous gallows at that point. But he was 198 00:10:31,245 --> 00:10:35,285 Speaker 1: super popular and so like two hundred thousand people allegedly 199 00:10:35,325 --> 00:10:38,365 Speaker 1: came out to come see him get hanged, and that 200 00:10:38,485 --> 00:10:40,165 Speaker 1: was at the time that was a third of the 201 00:10:40,245 --> 00:10:43,885 Speaker 1: population of London Lord and also usually they would hang 202 00:10:43,885 --> 00:10:45,245 Speaker 1: a bunch of people at once, but they were just 203 00:10:45,285 --> 00:10:47,925 Speaker 1: going to hang him by himself because you know, he 204 00:10:48,005 --> 00:10:50,525 Speaker 1: was so high profile or whatever. They were like, how's 205 00:10:50,525 --> 00:10:52,925 Speaker 1: he going to escape this one? How's he gonna escape? 206 00:10:52,925 --> 00:10:54,805 Speaker 1: And like he did have a plan. He had several 207 00:10:54,805 --> 00:10:58,005 Speaker 1: plans that we're all thwarted. And then his final plan 208 00:10:58,205 --> 00:10:59,765 Speaker 1: was that they were going to let him hang and 209 00:10:59,765 --> 00:11:02,405 Speaker 1: then his friends, like after he got hanged, they were 210 00:11:02,405 --> 00:11:03,805 Speaker 1: going to cut him down and they were going to 211 00:11:03,885 --> 00:11:06,325 Speaker 1: rush him to a doctor to try to revive him, 212 00:11:06,445 --> 00:11:09,405 Speaker 1: because sometimes people would survive a hanging, and because he 213 00:11:09,525 --> 00:11:11,925 Speaker 1: was small, that meant, you know, there's going to be 214 00:11:12,005 --> 00:11:13,885 Speaker 1: less pressure, so it was more likely that he was 215 00:11:13,925 --> 00:11:15,805 Speaker 1: gonna not that it's likely that you were going to 216 00:11:15,845 --> 00:11:17,845 Speaker 1: survive a hanging, but it was like more likely that 217 00:11:17,885 --> 00:11:21,165 Speaker 1: you would survive because your weight is not able to 218 00:11:21,365 --> 00:11:24,445 Speaker 1: kill you, so you're just like immensely suffering or whatever, 219 00:11:24,565 --> 00:11:26,045 Speaker 1: or it just takes you a long term to die. 220 00:11:26,565 --> 00:11:30,325 Speaker 1: The problem is that everybody else who was there and 221 00:11:30,405 --> 00:11:32,845 Speaker 1: the crowd also knew that, and they're like, hey, we 222 00:11:32,885 --> 00:11:34,125 Speaker 1: need to be great to this guy. We need to 223 00:11:34,165 --> 00:11:35,845 Speaker 1: give him a quick death. So when he was hanged, 224 00:11:35,885 --> 00:11:38,285 Speaker 1: everyone like pulled his legs down so he would die 225 00:11:38,365 --> 00:11:41,885 Speaker 1: faster so it wouldn't be Yeah, I mean, they're trying 226 00:11:41,925 --> 00:11:44,245 Speaker 1: to be helpful, but that also like thwarted their plan. 227 00:11:44,365 --> 00:11:46,205 Speaker 1: But their plan was also probably not going to be 228 00:11:46,245 --> 00:11:52,005 Speaker 1: successful anyway. So alas he couldn't be revived, there was 229 00:11:52,085 --> 00:11:56,885 Speaker 1: no revival. But wait, there was there was some sort 230 00:11:56,925 --> 00:12:01,525 Speaker 1: of a revival. Okay, Basically, it was reported that when 231 00:12:01,525 --> 00:12:06,885 Speaker 1: he was hanged, he after he died, he got a boner. Okay, 232 00:12:07,165 --> 00:12:10,845 Speaker 1: here's where the boners come in. Okay, that's right. It's 233 00:12:10,845 --> 00:12:13,885 Speaker 1: a hanged man's boner. Or maybe he was a hung 234 00:12:14,045 --> 00:12:17,565 Speaker 1: man's boner. I don't know. I don't know what he had. Okay, 235 00:12:19,725 --> 00:12:23,645 Speaker 1: that wasn't reported, just a hairline, just as hairl But people, 236 00:12:23,765 --> 00:12:26,325 Speaker 1: I mean, there was this one documentary that apparently repeatedly 237 00:12:26,365 --> 00:12:28,445 Speaker 1: said like, yes, he had a boner after he died. 238 00:12:28,485 --> 00:12:31,285 Speaker 1: But the thing is, this is apparently very common for 239 00:12:31,365 --> 00:12:34,685 Speaker 1: people who get hanged. At some point they were saying, 240 00:12:34,725 --> 00:12:36,965 Speaker 1: like within London, like one and three people who were 241 00:12:37,005 --> 00:12:40,125 Speaker 1: hanged would have a boner. Of dudes, they would get 242 00:12:40,125 --> 00:12:44,125 Speaker 1: a boner after they were hanged. Oh goodness. So just 243 00:12:44,165 --> 00:12:48,485 Speaker 1: because I guess it like feels really good. No, And 244 00:12:48,565 --> 00:12:50,725 Speaker 1: this thing is called it's called a death erection or 245 00:12:50,805 --> 00:12:54,965 Speaker 1: they also call it angel lust. Cute cute little name 246 00:12:55,005 --> 00:12:58,445 Speaker 1: for it. And what they're thinking that kind of happens. 247 00:12:58,485 --> 00:13:01,845 Speaker 1: It's like the pressure on the Sarabelle. I'm like from 248 00:13:01,885 --> 00:13:04,445 Speaker 1: the noose. And this is also like associated like people 249 00:13:04,445 --> 00:13:06,445 Speaker 1: who don't die. This is all dis associated with people 250 00:13:06,445 --> 00:13:08,805 Speaker 1: who have spinal cord injuries or sometimes you will just 251 00:13:09,445 --> 00:13:13,645 Speaker 1: randomly get a boner, and that's also called priapism, which 252 00:13:13,725 --> 00:13:16,165 Speaker 1: is where you get like a boner for too long, 253 00:13:16,645 --> 00:13:20,085 Speaker 1: and usually it's not coming from like sexual stimulation, So 254 00:13:20,205 --> 00:13:22,205 Speaker 1: it's a thing where people sometimes they just be having 255 00:13:22,285 --> 00:13:29,285 Speaker 1: boners out of nowhere, a nowhere boner painful, that sounds uncomfortable, Yeah, 256 00:13:29,325 --> 00:13:34,485 Speaker 1: And also priapism is named after the Greek god Priapus, 257 00:13:34,525 --> 00:13:40,125 Speaker 1: who was the protector of male genitalia. Basically, he had 258 00:13:40,165 --> 00:13:45,405 Speaker 1: been cursed by hara Zeus's wife to have inconvenient impetus, 259 00:13:45,445 --> 00:13:47,725 Speaker 1: so basically he would never be able to get aroused 260 00:13:48,205 --> 00:13:50,565 Speaker 1: when he wanted to, but then all the rest of 261 00:13:50,605 --> 00:13:52,685 Speaker 1: the time he was cursed of like having a huge 262 00:13:52,925 --> 00:13:58,165 Speaker 1: boner erection. So what a joker she was, is what 263 00:13:58,325 --> 00:14:01,365 Speaker 1: a silly gal? Yeah, And then so Priapus was like 264 00:14:01,525 --> 00:14:04,805 Speaker 1: thrown down to earth and he was obviously really mad 265 00:14:04,845 --> 00:14:07,165 Speaker 1: that he couldn't of you know, sex when he wanted to. 266 00:14:07,285 --> 00:14:10,525 Speaker 1: And this one time he tried to rape this other goddess, 267 00:14:10,925 --> 00:14:16,885 Speaker 1: but then this donkey I started braying and so she 268 00:14:17,045 --> 00:14:19,365 Speaker 1: woke up, so he wasn't able to do that. Um, 269 00:14:19,405 --> 00:14:22,485 Speaker 1: and that's why he hated donkeys. And he was like, yeah, 270 00:14:22,485 --> 00:14:25,165 Speaker 1: you sacrificed donkeys to me because they got in my way, 271 00:14:25,445 --> 00:14:28,525 Speaker 1: got in the way of my rape. So pri a puss? 272 00:14:28,885 --> 00:14:32,045 Speaker 1: What a guy? What a guy? Yeah? And also I 273 00:14:32,045 --> 00:14:33,845 Speaker 1: mean this can happen to women too, where you like 274 00:14:33,925 --> 00:14:36,005 Speaker 1: get horny by accident and you don't want to and 275 00:14:36,005 --> 00:14:40,485 Speaker 1: that's called pria pussy. Um no, it's not, it's not, 276 00:14:40,605 --> 00:14:44,045 Speaker 1: but that was fun for me to say, you're silly 277 00:14:45,245 --> 00:14:48,485 Speaker 1: with hanged women. It does happen where it's just like 278 00:14:48,525 --> 00:14:52,165 Speaker 1: you're parts of your vagina can get engorged and sometimes 279 00:14:52,205 --> 00:14:54,645 Speaker 1: like people have seen like redness in the labia and 280 00:14:54,645 --> 00:14:58,565 Speaker 1: then also like um, sometimes you bleed from your vagina 281 00:14:58,685 --> 00:15:02,525 Speaker 1: when you get hanged. So oh my gosh. So I'm 282 00:15:02,525 --> 00:15:04,965 Speaker 1: just saying if anyone's kind of like, you know, you're 283 00:15:05,085 --> 00:15:07,485 Speaker 1: kind of like a private person and you're getting hanged 284 00:15:07,565 --> 00:15:10,005 Speaker 1: like with dudes, I would suggest like maybe wearing some 285 00:15:10,125 --> 00:15:12,725 Speaker 1: loose clothing, you know, probably like don't get hanged in 286 00:15:12,725 --> 00:15:15,365 Speaker 1: like a latex suit or people will see, you know, 287 00:15:15,485 --> 00:15:18,125 Speaker 1: your boner. You know, maybe just a loose pant will 288 00:15:18,165 --> 00:15:21,885 Speaker 1: be good for you. Just some advice heard her, good 289 00:15:21,885 --> 00:15:24,605 Speaker 1: to know. And also like when Nico, you know, during 290 00:15:24,645 --> 00:15:27,885 Speaker 1: that story with Elizabeth Nico was talking about how like 291 00:15:27,925 --> 00:15:30,285 Speaker 1: people would go and like touch dead men after they're 292 00:15:30,325 --> 00:15:34,445 Speaker 1: hanged for like medicinal purposes. You know, people obviously also thought, 293 00:15:34,525 --> 00:15:38,565 Speaker 1: you know, these boners were good luck. So there have 294 00:15:38,645 --> 00:15:41,285 Speaker 1: been a few cases where they were chopped off and 295 00:15:41,365 --> 00:15:44,725 Speaker 1: people got to have the boners and they were And 296 00:15:44,765 --> 00:15:48,485 Speaker 1: there was this museum in London that recently acquired an 297 00:15:48,485 --> 00:15:55,845 Speaker 1: eighteenth century boner and I am furiously google it and 298 00:15:55,965 --> 00:15:58,085 Speaker 1: it's funny because it was also the boner was like 299 00:15:58,125 --> 00:16:00,485 Speaker 1: pretty expensive, so they had to like rent it for 300 00:16:00,605 --> 00:16:02,845 Speaker 1: like twenty five hundred pounds or something to put it 301 00:16:02,885 --> 00:16:05,725 Speaker 1: on display. So oh my gosh, I found it. Yeah, 302 00:16:05,765 --> 00:16:07,645 Speaker 1: they don't know if they don't know if it's for real, 303 00:16:07,725 --> 00:16:09,805 Speaker 1: but they're like pretty sure it's a real boner. But 304 00:16:10,605 --> 00:16:15,565 Speaker 1: you guys, yesterday I was with my best friend and 305 00:16:15,885 --> 00:16:18,405 Speaker 1: we are planning this trip to Iceland, and so we 306 00:16:18,445 --> 00:16:20,245 Speaker 1: were like looking at stuff in Iceland and there is 307 00:16:20,325 --> 00:16:24,805 Speaker 1: this there's a penis museum, and it's like all of 308 00:16:24,845 --> 00:16:29,125 Speaker 1: the different kind of mammal species penis and that are 309 00:16:29,205 --> 00:16:32,485 Speaker 1: in Iceland in this museum. So we're like, because we're 310 00:16:32,485 --> 00:16:34,645 Speaker 1: trying to okay, but we were like we were sitting 311 00:16:34,685 --> 00:16:36,405 Speaker 1: there and we were like, okay, I mean obviously we 312 00:16:36,485 --> 00:16:37,845 Speaker 1: go and then we were like, but wait a minute, 313 00:16:37,885 --> 00:16:41,565 Speaker 1: but then we've wasted time in Iceland at a Penis museum. 314 00:16:41,685 --> 00:16:46,445 Speaker 1: Question mark not wasted time, dude, I used successfully. Also, 315 00:16:47,045 --> 00:16:50,565 Speaker 1: this boner almost made me throw up. I truly almost 316 00:16:50,565 --> 00:16:53,285 Speaker 1: threw up in my in my mouth. The it is. 317 00:16:53,565 --> 00:16:55,765 Speaker 1: We're gonna post it on Instagram, but we're gonna we're 318 00:16:55,765 --> 00:16:58,245 Speaker 1: gonna end up being reported, but we'll post on Instagram. Anyways, 319 00:16:58,725 --> 00:17:01,405 Speaker 1: did you drop because the Maji gag, you know, like no, 320 00:17:02,245 --> 00:17:07,605 Speaker 1: it literally I it's vany okay black and like, um, 321 00:17:08,285 --> 00:17:10,565 Speaker 1: you can see some redness in like the veins where 322 00:17:10,605 --> 00:17:15,565 Speaker 1: like Paria blood was. It's rock hard. But I personally 323 00:17:16,045 --> 00:17:18,165 Speaker 1: I'm not into it. Yeah, thank you, but I mean 324 00:17:18,205 --> 00:17:21,525 Speaker 1: that's thing they haven't verified, you know, how real this 325 00:17:21,605 --> 00:17:26,525 Speaker 1: boner is, so we don't know just yet. Um great, 326 00:17:27,445 --> 00:17:31,005 Speaker 1: but uh, priapism is something that does be happening. And 327 00:17:31,085 --> 00:17:32,805 Speaker 1: this one little last thing I want to say is 328 00:17:32,805 --> 00:17:35,645 Speaker 1: that it can also result or the death erection can 329 00:17:35,685 --> 00:17:39,045 Speaker 1: also result from other injuries you might have, particularly ones 330 00:17:39,125 --> 00:17:41,445 Speaker 1: that affect the spine. And one last thing I will 331 00:17:41,485 --> 00:17:44,085 Speaker 1: say is that there was a lot of art during 332 00:17:44,085 --> 00:17:49,885 Speaker 1: the Renaissance period that portrayed Jesus Christ as having a 333 00:17:49,925 --> 00:17:53,645 Speaker 1: big ass boner in the resurrection. A lot of that 334 00:17:53,845 --> 00:17:58,805 Speaker 1: was suppressed by the Church obviously because they don't want 335 00:17:58,805 --> 00:18:01,885 Speaker 1: to be seen. Also, baby Jesus awesome had Like baby 336 00:18:01,925 --> 00:18:04,605 Speaker 1: Jesus would have like a big dick too, and like 337 00:18:04,645 --> 00:18:07,405 Speaker 1: a lot of this art, and so you know, maybe 338 00:18:07,445 --> 00:18:10,765 Speaker 1: like a crucifixion or like him being resident, you know, 339 00:18:11,325 --> 00:18:13,525 Speaker 1: maybe he had a bone or two when he came back. 340 00:18:13,605 --> 00:18:16,565 Speaker 1: I don't know. Apparently these Renaissance people thought that was 341 00:18:16,565 --> 00:18:18,365 Speaker 1: the case. I mean, they're trying to be like, let's 342 00:18:18,405 --> 00:18:22,165 Speaker 1: show his humanity. Um, and I guess humanity is having 343 00:18:22,165 --> 00:18:27,125 Speaker 1: a boner. So yeah, apparently humanity means you're well endowed. Yeah, humanity. 344 00:18:29,525 --> 00:18:32,245 Speaker 1: I guess all of my exes aren't human. No, I'm 345 00:18:32,285 --> 00:18:38,325 Speaker 1: just kidding, um, very but yeah, but talk about let's 346 00:18:38,325 --> 00:18:41,645 Speaker 1: talk shit about our exes this episode. But yeah, I 347 00:18:41,725 --> 00:18:44,085 Speaker 1: just think it's there was this dude though, who wrote 348 00:18:44,085 --> 00:18:50,725 Speaker 1: a whole book about Jesus boners in Renaissance art. And 349 00:18:50,765 --> 00:18:52,485 Speaker 1: you know it's like some dudes will just like write 350 00:18:52,485 --> 00:18:54,925 Speaker 1: a whole book about Jesus Jesus's Boner when they could 351 00:18:54,965 --> 00:18:57,645 Speaker 1: just like go to therapy instead. But you know, and 352 00:18:57,845 --> 00:19:01,085 Speaker 1: you can find that book at CADAH. It was written 353 00:19:01,085 --> 00:19:03,525 Speaker 1: by Gabby Watts m when I was four years old. 354 00:19:03,565 --> 00:19:10,845 Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, that's the the Hanged Man's Boner. Thank 355 00:19:10,885 --> 00:19:15,245 Speaker 1: you story. That was fantastic. I feel like we're all 356 00:19:15,245 --> 00:19:19,085 Speaker 1: the wiser now. Yes, thank you for that. We'll be 357 00:19:19,205 --> 00:19:25,565 Speaker 1: right back. Welcome back everyone. I hope you still are 358 00:19:25,605 --> 00:19:28,885 Speaker 1: still listening. Gabby was very kind to send me a 359 00:19:29,045 --> 00:19:34,365 Speaker 1: ted talk to further elaborate on some other strange medical phenomena. 360 00:19:34,485 --> 00:19:40,045 Speaker 1: So orgasms yay. So apparently there's this spot on the 361 00:19:40,085 --> 00:19:43,565 Speaker 1: lower part of your back that, if stimulated, can result 362 00:19:43,565 --> 00:19:47,325 Speaker 1: in an orgasm. And so this area is the sacral nerve, 363 00:19:47,365 --> 00:19:50,285 Speaker 1: which is send me the link. It gets yeah, it 364 00:19:50,325 --> 00:19:53,525 Speaker 1: gets better. So it's called the sacral nerve and it 365 00:19:53,645 --> 00:19:55,605 Speaker 1: is located like in the lower part of your back 366 00:19:55,885 --> 00:20:00,845 Speaker 1: and it descends down into the pelvis. So I was like, okay, 367 00:20:00,885 --> 00:20:04,005 Speaker 1: that's interesting. So then I come across this woman's video 368 00:20:05,045 --> 00:20:07,925 Speaker 1: that's that she was like with this guy and he 369 00:20:08,005 --> 00:20:11,765 Speaker 1: started kind of like rubbing her lower back with like 370 00:20:11,805 --> 00:20:14,245 Speaker 1: the palm of his hand and she was like, okay, 371 00:20:14,445 --> 00:20:18,645 Speaker 1: this is great. Love this. And so apparently she was 372 00:20:18,685 --> 00:20:20,645 Speaker 1: like how did you do that? Where did this come from? 373 00:20:21,285 --> 00:20:23,205 Speaker 1: And so he was like, yo, I learned it in 374 00:20:23,285 --> 00:20:27,885 Speaker 1: like Kamasutra or whatever. And so so apparently there's this 375 00:20:27,965 --> 00:20:29,805 Speaker 1: spot in the lower part of your back then that 376 00:20:29,925 --> 00:20:34,205 Speaker 1: can help you to orgasm if stimulated properly. Nice. Yeah, 377 00:20:34,245 --> 00:20:37,445 Speaker 1: So in two thousand and four, there was this woman 378 00:20:37,485 --> 00:20:40,245 Speaker 1: who went to the doctor for chronic back pain. So 379 00:20:40,285 --> 00:20:42,845 Speaker 1: they did us They were like doing this study and 380 00:20:43,045 --> 00:20:47,005 Speaker 1: so they did this spinal cord stimulator thing that was 381 00:20:47,045 --> 00:20:50,365 Speaker 1: surgically placed in her lower back area. It's like the 382 00:20:50,405 --> 00:20:53,485 Speaker 1: size of a pacemaker and like you have this remote 383 00:20:53,485 --> 00:20:59,325 Speaker 1: control that triggers these electrodes, which successfully reduced her back pain. 384 00:20:59,805 --> 00:21:02,965 Speaker 1: Oh no, but oh no, I'm scared. When they tried 385 00:21:03,005 --> 00:21:05,605 Speaker 1: it there, the doctor was like, okay, she likes and 386 00:21:05,765 --> 00:21:08,685 Speaker 1: moaning and like hyperventilating, and so she like stopped it 387 00:21:08,725 --> 00:21:11,605 Speaker 1: and she was like, what's going on, and she said, 388 00:21:12,525 --> 00:21:17,165 Speaker 1: please teach my husband how to do this. And so 389 00:21:17,565 --> 00:21:21,005 Speaker 1: they basically put a vibrator in her back. Yeah, so 390 00:21:21,205 --> 00:21:23,725 Speaker 1: her brain basically, so it reduced your back pain too. 391 00:21:23,765 --> 00:21:27,405 Speaker 1: She was like back pain less of a thing, and 392 00:21:27,445 --> 00:21:31,765 Speaker 1: then but her brain interpreted it as also an orgasm, 393 00:21:31,805 --> 00:21:37,605 Speaker 1: so they decided to call this device the orgasmatron. Oh 394 00:21:37,725 --> 00:21:42,805 Speaker 1: my gosh us yeah, because I mean it can like 395 00:21:42,885 --> 00:21:45,125 Speaker 1: there's all these you know when you like you like 396 00:21:46,005 --> 00:21:47,445 Speaker 1: I don't know, say, like you pull a hair or 397 00:21:47,485 --> 00:21:49,205 Speaker 1: something on your leg, but then like you feel it 398 00:21:49,285 --> 00:21:54,005 Speaker 1: somewhere else. It's crazy, you know, no fucking idea what 399 00:21:54,005 --> 00:21:56,485 Speaker 1: you're talking about that, But yes, I hear you. No, 400 00:21:56,605 --> 00:21:59,525 Speaker 1: like if you have yeah, if like with acupuncture and 401 00:21:59,565 --> 00:22:01,925 Speaker 1: stuff where you have like different pressure points in your 402 00:22:01,925 --> 00:22:06,405 Speaker 1: body and like being like acupunctured, you can then like 403 00:22:06,525 --> 00:22:09,525 Speaker 1: that changes things up here, you know shit like that. 404 00:22:09,845 --> 00:22:12,405 Speaker 1: What if that happens like at the chiropractor though, like 405 00:22:12,685 --> 00:22:16,205 Speaker 1: he's chiropracting you and then and then does the orgasmic 406 00:22:16,285 --> 00:22:19,205 Speaker 1: sacral whatever. I don't think. No, I'm gonna put it 407 00:22:19,205 --> 00:22:23,245 Speaker 1: on TikTok, dude, trust the chiropractor. They're all over TikTok. 408 00:22:23,565 --> 00:22:25,925 Speaker 1: That's actually true. And they're all super buff for no reason, 409 00:22:25,925 --> 00:22:29,125 Speaker 1: and they're all just like really like, BROI dudes, we're 410 00:22:29,165 --> 00:22:32,805 Speaker 1: gonna back or she's like and then they're just like 411 00:22:32,805 --> 00:22:37,685 Speaker 1: we're gonna keep doing it anyway, So the orgasmatron there, 412 00:22:37,725 --> 00:22:40,285 Speaker 1: we have it. Okay, so this device has actually been 413 00:22:40,325 --> 00:22:43,605 Speaker 1: approved by the FDA for bladder problems in back pain, 414 00:22:44,205 --> 00:22:47,765 Speaker 1: but side effects orgasm. But literally you have this like 415 00:22:47,885 --> 00:22:51,565 Speaker 1: remote control that like turns it on or off. So 416 00:22:51,605 --> 00:22:55,485 Speaker 1: you can literally have this remote control that triggers an orgasm. 417 00:22:56,525 --> 00:22:58,765 Speaker 1: And so anyway, so back to this ted talk that 418 00:22:59,045 --> 00:23:03,645 Speaker 1: Gabby scent Um was with Mary Roach, and she suggested 419 00:23:04,085 --> 00:23:06,885 Speaker 1: that an instance is where a person has died but 420 00:23:07,045 --> 00:23:09,445 Speaker 1: is on a ventilator, you know, to keep organs alive 421 00:23:09,445 --> 00:23:13,085 Speaker 1: for like transplant and stuff. Suggested that you could give 422 00:23:13,085 --> 00:23:19,245 Speaker 1: a cadaver an orgasm by stimulating this sacral nerve. So 423 00:23:20,085 --> 00:23:27,005 Speaker 1: I'm talking about but like it, see it's seemingly somehow 424 00:23:27,045 --> 00:23:32,365 Speaker 1: probably related to this um hanging boner problem, right perhaps 425 00:23:32,685 --> 00:23:36,725 Speaker 1: is it a problem? I mean, I don't know. Basically 426 00:23:36,765 --> 00:23:41,605 Speaker 1: we're talking about boners from the great beyond yea. So 427 00:23:42,005 --> 00:23:44,285 Speaker 1: so anyway, so Mary wrote she like suggests this, and 428 00:23:44,325 --> 00:23:46,885 Speaker 1: she's like we should do a study, and they're like, okay, 429 00:23:46,965 --> 00:23:49,005 Speaker 1: you get that approved. Like I'm not going to do that. Like, 430 00:23:50,525 --> 00:23:55,405 Speaker 1: so so anyway, to be completely clear, it would be 431 00:23:55,445 --> 00:23:59,405 Speaker 1: with the orgasmatron right, not like with someone's hands, just 432 00:23:59,445 --> 00:24:02,725 Speaker 1: like jacking a corpses. No, yeah, no, no no, it 433 00:24:02,765 --> 00:24:06,965 Speaker 1: would be to massage the sacral nerve or use okay, yes, 434 00:24:07,285 --> 00:24:11,325 Speaker 1: not like okay, I love the scientific language. You just 435 00:24:11,525 --> 00:24:17,925 Speaker 1: use jack the cadavers, cock or whatever. No no, no, no, 436 00:24:17,925 --> 00:24:20,325 Speaker 1: no no, no no JCC. That is like, if you are 437 00:24:20,365 --> 00:24:22,765 Speaker 1: applying for research for this topic, that's probably not the 438 00:24:22,845 --> 00:24:27,045 Speaker 1: language you should use. All this actually this ted talk Gabby. 439 00:24:27,125 --> 00:24:28,725 Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, oh my gosh, you're 440 00:24:28,725 --> 00:24:30,805 Speaker 1: gonna stress me out with this, but it was actually 441 00:24:30,925 --> 00:24:34,685 Speaker 1: very interesting. She had She explained a few different instances 442 00:24:34,725 --> 00:24:39,565 Speaker 1: of people having unique orgasmic situations, if you will. Another 443 00:24:39,605 --> 00:24:42,725 Speaker 1: one that she had mentioned is this woman who sadly 444 00:24:43,565 --> 00:24:45,685 Speaker 1: or not sadly, I guess depends on how you look 445 00:24:45,725 --> 00:24:48,765 Speaker 1: at it. Every single time she brushed her teeth, she 446 00:24:48,885 --> 00:24:53,045 Speaker 1: got an orgasm. I digress, Mika, feel free to change 447 00:24:53,045 --> 00:24:55,565 Speaker 1: the topic if you will with I'm so ready to 448 00:24:55,645 --> 00:24:58,925 Speaker 1: change the topic. I have a story. I have a 449 00:24:58,965 --> 00:25:03,165 Speaker 1: story that does not involve Dix unless you're talking about 450 00:25:03,205 --> 00:25:06,285 Speaker 1: men in general, because then it doesn't ball dis Okay, 451 00:25:06,645 --> 00:25:11,525 Speaker 1: So we're going back to the year sixteen twenty Yes, Pleo, Italy, 452 00:25:11,925 --> 00:25:16,085 Speaker 1: where this woman called Julia Tofana was born. Yes, we're 453 00:25:16,125 --> 00:25:19,045 Speaker 1: going all the way back now. Not much is known 454 00:25:19,045 --> 00:25:21,925 Speaker 1: about her upbringing other than the fact that she grew 455 00:25:22,005 --> 00:25:26,285 Speaker 1: up around apothecaries and became very knowledgeable implants and herbs 456 00:25:26,285 --> 00:25:28,925 Speaker 1: and medicines, and she worked with her mother. She was 457 00:25:28,965 --> 00:25:32,965 Speaker 1: a witch? She no, Okay, well, I mean maybe, but 458 00:25:33,045 --> 00:25:35,645 Speaker 1: who knows but her mother She also knew a lot 459 00:25:35,685 --> 00:25:37,925 Speaker 1: about oh my god, potion making, so I guess maybe 460 00:25:37,965 --> 00:25:42,005 Speaker 1: they were witches. Okay, anyway, now this became even more 461 00:25:42,045 --> 00:25:46,605 Speaker 1: apparent when her mother poisoned her husband and obviously Julia's 462 00:25:46,645 --> 00:25:50,325 Speaker 1: dad in sixteen thirty three, when Julia was only thirteen 463 00:25:50,605 --> 00:25:55,645 Speaker 1: years old. Sad, so she was sentenced to swift execution, 464 00:25:55,885 --> 00:26:00,085 Speaker 1: which left Juliet orphand but not to worry, because thanks 465 00:26:00,085 --> 00:26:02,245 Speaker 1: to her time with her mom at the apothecaries, she 466 00:26:02,285 --> 00:26:04,045 Speaker 1: had all the tools that she needed to take care 467 00:26:04,085 --> 00:26:06,445 Speaker 1: of herself and kind of throw five. And so she 468 00:26:06,485 --> 00:26:10,925 Speaker 1: started a cosmetics business which ran successfully for twenty years. 469 00:26:11,565 --> 00:26:16,805 Speaker 1: Good for her, yeah, girl, exactly. She got married, she 470 00:26:16,925 --> 00:26:20,845 Speaker 1: moved to Naples, She had a daughter. She eventually became widowed. 471 00:26:21,645 --> 00:26:26,005 Speaker 1: She killed her husband and was very successful and in 472 00:26:26,125 --> 00:26:30,205 Speaker 1: demand in her career. And this specifically was because she 473 00:26:30,325 --> 00:26:34,045 Speaker 1: wasn't just selling makeup, you guys. She was selling a 474 00:26:34,125 --> 00:26:37,685 Speaker 1: poison that either her or her mother invented, and she 475 00:26:37,805 --> 00:26:42,325 Speaker 1: named it aquatofana. Love that a great name. Isn't that 476 00:26:42,325 --> 00:26:44,285 Speaker 1: a great It's a sexy name. I mean that's good 477 00:26:44,285 --> 00:26:46,725 Speaker 1: to have. Also, like that passive income, you know, along 478 00:26:46,805 --> 00:26:49,165 Speaker 1: with the big cosmet you have, like the other small business. 479 00:26:49,245 --> 00:26:53,885 Speaker 1: And the point that makes sense exactly. It was this odorless, colorless, 480 00:26:54,045 --> 00:26:59,205 Speaker 1: tasteless and deadly concoction. It left no trace in victims organs, 481 00:26:59,325 --> 00:27:03,085 Speaker 1: making it the perfect murder weapon and made her very 482 00:27:03,205 --> 00:27:06,205 Speaker 1: very well off. This was at a time when financial 483 00:27:06,205 --> 00:27:09,685 Speaker 1: independence for women was very rare, and she was just 484 00:27:09,725 --> 00:27:13,365 Speaker 1: thriving with her daughter and herself selling this poison. I'm 485 00:27:13,405 --> 00:27:17,165 Speaker 1: like so proud of her. You know. Um At was 486 00:27:17,205 --> 00:27:20,125 Speaker 1: made up of some arsenic lead and deadly nightshade, which 487 00:27:20,165 --> 00:27:22,805 Speaker 1: is this toxic plant. Also really cool name. I like, 488 00:27:22,925 --> 00:27:24,925 Speaker 1: love all these names. I'm so happy about it, seri 489 00:27:24,965 --> 00:27:28,085 Speaker 1: esthetically pleasing. And the really cool thing about it too, 490 00:27:28,205 --> 00:27:30,565 Speaker 1: is that the symptoms were really slow to come about 491 00:27:30,845 --> 00:27:34,285 Speaker 1: and they involved vomiting and agonizing pains in the stomach. 492 00:27:34,605 --> 00:27:36,685 Speaker 1: But the symptoms were also spread out over a couple 493 00:27:36,685 --> 00:27:39,845 Speaker 1: of weeks, so it made it seem very normal, like, oh, 494 00:27:39,885 --> 00:27:42,805 Speaker 1: we live in you know, the sixteen hundreds, it's normal 495 00:27:42,885 --> 00:27:48,285 Speaker 1: to die, exactly a lot to die. It is normal 496 00:27:48,365 --> 00:27:51,725 Speaker 1: to die the sixteen hundreds and to die period. We 497 00:27:51,845 --> 00:27:54,765 Speaker 1: all die. That's true. Also, if it does, if you like, 498 00:27:54,965 --> 00:27:57,605 Speaker 1: that means you just like don't know what could have happened, 499 00:27:57,605 --> 00:28:00,685 Speaker 1: because if it's because like if it's immediate, you're like, 500 00:28:00,725 --> 00:28:04,845 Speaker 1: who's the people immediately around me? And shit? But exactly 501 00:28:04,885 --> 00:28:11,565 Speaker 1: it was very well thought out. Yeah, it was very successful. Now, obviously, 502 00:28:11,845 --> 00:28:15,445 Speaker 1: Italy in the sixteen hundreds was going through the Renaissance period, 503 00:28:15,525 --> 00:28:17,645 Speaker 1: so it's a very enlightened time. It was fueled by 504 00:28:17,645 --> 00:28:20,765 Speaker 1: a love of art and architecture, beauty, literature, all that 505 00:28:20,805 --> 00:28:25,125 Speaker 1: good stuff. But women for the most part, yeah, and murder. 506 00:28:25,365 --> 00:28:27,845 Speaker 1: But women for the most part were still obviously treated 507 00:28:27,885 --> 00:28:30,525 Speaker 1: like objects, and they were expected to be quiet and 508 00:28:30,645 --> 00:28:32,965 Speaker 1: look pretty and not in a kinky way, in a 509 00:28:32,965 --> 00:28:38,005 Speaker 1: degrading way. Women's prospects were very limited. Obviously. They either 510 00:28:38,045 --> 00:28:42,045 Speaker 1: got married, became sex workers, or were widowed, and this 511 00:28:42,165 --> 00:28:46,245 Speaker 1: happened to women of all classes. Obviously, abuse within the 512 00:28:46,325 --> 00:28:48,445 Speaker 1: household was common, and it was kind of like, oh, 513 00:28:48,485 --> 00:28:51,485 Speaker 1: boys will be boys. It was very normalized. But Julia 514 00:28:51,565 --> 00:28:54,725 Speaker 1: was not having it. Okay, girl bosses don't have that. 515 00:28:54,725 --> 00:28:58,445 Speaker 1: That's not okay. She sold the poison in Naples and 516 00:28:58,565 --> 00:29:01,205 Speaker 1: later in Rome, and she would package it in glass 517 00:29:01,245 --> 00:29:03,845 Speaker 1: bottles with a photo of Saint Nicholas on the front 518 00:29:03,845 --> 00:29:06,605 Speaker 1: of it and labeled it Manna Saint Nicholas a bari, 519 00:29:06,925 --> 00:29:09,485 Speaker 1: which was a popular blemish ointment at the time. She 520 00:29:09,605 --> 00:29:11,805 Speaker 1: used a photo. How did she have a photo back then? 521 00:29:12,445 --> 00:29:14,565 Speaker 1: Or I think she like probably engraved it like Saint 522 00:29:14,645 --> 00:29:17,085 Speaker 1: Nicholas or something like that. I just I saw the 523 00:29:17,085 --> 00:29:19,365 Speaker 1: bottles though, they're really pretty. I also like how that's 524 00:29:19,405 --> 00:29:23,565 Speaker 1: like some discreet packaging too. I appreciate. Oh yeah, so cool. 525 00:29:23,965 --> 00:29:27,125 Speaker 1: And then she also sometimes converted the poison into powder, 526 00:29:27,285 --> 00:29:29,565 Speaker 1: and she would sell it in little compacts for women, 527 00:29:29,605 --> 00:29:32,845 Speaker 1: like little blush compacts, so you could do the thing 528 00:29:32,845 --> 00:29:34,165 Speaker 1: where you like open it and you could just like 529 00:29:34,285 --> 00:29:39,205 Speaker 1: blow it onto people, Like exactly, how did she so 530 00:29:39,325 --> 00:29:41,525 Speaker 1: when you got said compact, what would you do? Just 531 00:29:41,525 --> 00:29:44,765 Speaker 1: scrape a little bit into their soup. Yeah, well that 532 00:29:44,925 --> 00:29:50,125 Speaker 1: was more for like yourn. So with the compact, I 533 00:29:50,205 --> 00:29:54,765 Speaker 1: think that was more for hidden purposes. So like she 534 00:29:54,765 --> 00:29:57,565 Speaker 1: would do the compacts to not attract any idea that 535 00:29:57,605 --> 00:29:59,405 Speaker 1: it was a it was a poison. And then they 536 00:29:59,405 --> 00:30:02,765 Speaker 1: would put the powder actually usually into soups funny enough 537 00:30:02,845 --> 00:30:05,605 Speaker 1: or drinks or whatever you want for their husbands. And 538 00:30:05,645 --> 00:30:08,445 Speaker 1: then if it was the ointment, that would come in 539 00:30:08,485 --> 00:30:10,485 Speaker 1: liquid form and they would put just a couple of 540 00:30:10,525 --> 00:30:13,365 Speaker 1: drops here and there in the foods. And she said 541 00:30:13,565 --> 00:30:15,565 Speaker 1: they could dilute it, so like put it in like 542 00:30:15,565 --> 00:30:17,445 Speaker 1: a big soup or whatever and just give it to 543 00:30:17,485 --> 00:30:20,565 Speaker 1: them over a course of some weeks or some days 544 00:30:20,885 --> 00:30:23,285 Speaker 1: or whatever, or do like a big dosage, but just 545 00:30:23,445 --> 00:30:27,925 Speaker 1: make sure your soup is very flavorful. Question, So you think, 546 00:30:28,045 --> 00:30:31,285 Speaker 1: do you think if a man was like, I have 547 00:30:31,365 --> 00:30:33,925 Speaker 1: this little blemish and I want to like sneak into 548 00:30:33,965 --> 00:30:37,205 Speaker 1: my wife's makeup to try and like cover it up. 549 00:30:37,325 --> 00:30:40,445 Speaker 1: What if he like accidentally like used it and then 550 00:30:40,685 --> 00:30:44,285 Speaker 1: like killed himself. I mean, there aren't any recorded cases 551 00:30:44,285 --> 00:30:47,325 Speaker 1: of that, but I would not be surprised if it happened. Yeah, 552 00:30:47,445 --> 00:30:49,525 Speaker 1: or like a quirky story where it's like you know, 553 00:30:49,565 --> 00:30:52,925 Speaker 1: she's selling the compacts and then she likes mixes them 554 00:30:52,965 --> 00:30:54,645 Speaker 1: up and she's like, I don't know if it is 555 00:30:54,645 --> 00:30:57,045 Speaker 1: this the poisoner, is this the makeup? And it's like, 556 00:30:57,085 --> 00:31:01,845 Speaker 1: oh no, yes, well, I mean that probably did happen 557 00:31:01,885 --> 00:31:04,365 Speaker 1: at some point. But also the sixteen hundreds, as I said, 558 00:31:04,805 --> 00:31:08,725 Speaker 1: dying was all now it's just not in fashion. It's 559 00:31:08,765 --> 00:31:11,325 Speaker 1: just not as fashionable anymore. But yeah, so she would 560 00:31:11,405 --> 00:31:13,845 Speaker 1: hide it really really well, and so these wives husbands 561 00:31:14,365 --> 00:31:17,165 Speaker 1: never thought to check on, you know, the wives vanities, 562 00:31:17,285 --> 00:31:20,205 Speaker 1: tables and stuff, because the poison was perfectly hidden in 563 00:31:20,285 --> 00:31:22,805 Speaker 1: plain sight and it was easily available, and it was 564 00:31:22,925 --> 00:31:24,845 Speaker 1: really cute. Okay, I think the package is adorable, and 565 00:31:24,885 --> 00:31:28,045 Speaker 1: we're posting a picture of it because it's cute. And 566 00:31:28,085 --> 00:31:30,325 Speaker 1: then she also had a soft spot for women in 567 00:31:30,445 --> 00:31:34,405 Speaker 1: dire financial circumstances, so she'd sometimes just give the poison 568 00:31:34,445 --> 00:31:37,805 Speaker 1: away to women who needed it, which is really great. 569 00:31:38,325 --> 00:31:42,205 Speaker 1: Third rule of girl bossing give back. She had a 570 00:31:42,285 --> 00:31:45,125 Speaker 1: really tight circle. I know, she does seem sweet. She 571 00:31:45,165 --> 00:31:47,645 Speaker 1: had a really tight circle of women who helped distribute it, 572 00:31:47,805 --> 00:31:51,685 Speaker 1: including her daughter and a Catholic priest, and lots of 573 00:31:51,685 --> 00:31:53,765 Speaker 1: women knew about it, but never said anything because they 574 00:31:53,765 --> 00:31:56,525 Speaker 1: were super grateful for her, and they were like, yeah, 575 00:31:56,565 --> 00:31:58,925 Speaker 1: you know, she was able to free me from my 576 00:31:59,045 --> 00:32:01,845 Speaker 1: terrible marriage but still get the you know, the money 577 00:32:01,925 --> 00:32:04,005 Speaker 1: from the man and all that sort of stuff, which 578 00:32:04,005 --> 00:32:06,085 Speaker 1: is great. And she actually did this for fifth years, 579 00:32:06,125 --> 00:32:08,845 Speaker 1: which was very impressed. That's a long time. It is, 580 00:32:08,965 --> 00:32:14,085 Speaker 1: especially on a time where death was popular. Yep. So eventually, 581 00:32:14,205 --> 00:32:17,925 Speaker 1: and then she was killing so many people too, Yeah, exactly. 582 00:32:18,765 --> 00:32:21,285 Speaker 1: So Eventually, a woman who was about to kill her 583 00:32:21,365 --> 00:32:24,125 Speaker 1: husband with a bowl of soup, she regretted it, and 584 00:32:24,165 --> 00:32:25,845 Speaker 1: she began yelling at him and telling him not to 585 00:32:25,885 --> 00:32:28,445 Speaker 1: eat the soup, and he became very suspicious of her, obviously, 586 00:32:28,645 --> 00:32:31,405 Speaker 1: and started beating her until she told the truth, girl, 587 00:32:31,445 --> 00:32:34,285 Speaker 1: you should have killed him. The woman was arrested and 588 00:32:34,365 --> 00:32:37,045 Speaker 1: tortured until she finally spilled the beans. But by then 589 00:32:37,285 --> 00:32:39,405 Speaker 1: Julia already knew what was happening, and she fled to 590 00:32:39,445 --> 00:32:42,125 Speaker 1: a church for sanctuary. The church took care of her 591 00:32:42,245 --> 00:32:44,765 Speaker 1: and wouldn't allow the authorities in. Remember this was a 592 00:32:44,965 --> 00:32:47,365 Speaker 1: time when the church was also very powerful, so she 593 00:32:47,445 --> 00:32:53,965 Speaker 1: kept the operation going with nuns distributing the poison. Yes queens, yes, queens, 594 00:32:54,445 --> 00:32:57,605 Speaker 1: but sadly, a rumor started going around that she had 595 00:32:57,645 --> 00:33:00,565 Speaker 1: poisoned the water supply, which was not true. Why would 596 00:33:00,605 --> 00:33:04,085 Speaker 1: she do that? And the church was invaded and she 597 00:33:04,165 --> 00:33:07,845 Speaker 1: was arrested, and then after being tortured, she confessed to 598 00:33:07,965 --> 00:33:11,445 Speaker 1: killing over six hundred men between sixteen thirty three and 599 00:33:11,565 --> 00:33:15,565 Speaker 1: sixteen fifty one. She was executed along with her daughter 600 00:33:15,645 --> 00:33:18,285 Speaker 1: and three other women in her circle. And that's what 601 00:33:18,325 --> 00:33:22,085 Speaker 1: happens when you girl boss too close to the sun. Woyeah, 602 00:33:22,125 --> 00:33:25,285 Speaker 1: that's a good lesson for us all. Yeah, absolutely be 603 00:33:25,325 --> 00:33:26,805 Speaker 1: a girl boss. Been not too much of a girl 604 00:33:27,245 --> 00:33:29,725 Speaker 1: got too much, like just kill like three hundred people, 605 00:33:29,805 --> 00:33:33,725 Speaker 1: you know, like, yeah, you're trying too hard a little exactly, 606 00:33:33,725 --> 00:33:36,165 Speaker 1: six hundred is a little excessive, you know. But you know, 607 00:33:36,205 --> 00:33:41,245 Speaker 1: she broke the glass ceiling. So proud, very inspired. I'm 608 00:33:41,325 --> 00:33:45,405 Speaker 1: very inspired too. Thank you, Nika. That was wonderful. We'll 609 00:33:45,405 --> 00:33:49,765 Speaker 1: be right back. Welcome back all. You could have her pals, 610 00:33:49,885 --> 00:33:54,165 Speaker 1: So good news. Makeup is really, as far as we 611 00:33:54,205 --> 00:33:59,165 Speaker 1: know no longer Dadley, Um, thank goodness, because well some 612 00:33:59,245 --> 00:34:01,685 Speaker 1: of it can like irritate your skin, that's true, but 613 00:34:02,165 --> 00:34:07,845 Speaker 1: Dudley less so. But obviously back in the medieval times 614 00:34:07,965 --> 00:34:11,685 Speaker 1: and same as now, it's no surprise why people did this. 615 00:34:11,765 --> 00:34:14,765 Speaker 1: It was to basically look younger and to attract a 616 00:34:14,885 --> 00:34:19,685 Speaker 1: mate and whatnot. Even men would use it a mate. 617 00:34:19,925 --> 00:34:23,805 Speaker 1: That's what they used to do it for. That's whenever 618 00:34:23,845 --> 00:34:26,365 Speaker 1: I put eyeliner on, I'm like, I'm ready to attract 619 00:34:26,405 --> 00:34:30,125 Speaker 1: my mate now. But now it's just we obviously we 620 00:34:30,245 --> 00:34:32,965 Speaker 1: use it for ourselves, but also to make us feel 621 00:34:32,965 --> 00:34:34,525 Speaker 1: confident and feel but I don't know. We use it 622 00:34:34,565 --> 00:34:36,885 Speaker 1: for whatever we want to use it for. But back 623 00:34:36,885 --> 00:34:39,725 Speaker 1: in the day it was only for mate attraction pretty 624 00:34:39,765 --> 00:34:43,405 Speaker 1: much to make them think that you're young anyway, but 625 00:34:43,485 --> 00:34:46,085 Speaker 1: they so. And it was also back back in the day, 626 00:34:46,365 --> 00:34:49,605 Speaker 1: you know, God was like, hey, you are given this 627 00:34:49,685 --> 00:34:52,685 Speaker 1: particular look for a reason. Do not enhance it, do 628 00:34:52,765 --> 00:34:54,685 Speaker 1: not cover it up. This is how this is how 629 00:34:54,725 --> 00:34:58,445 Speaker 1: you are, so deal with it. God. Wow. I know, 630 00:34:58,965 --> 00:35:02,925 Speaker 1: well the choice God exactly. But God created you as 631 00:35:02,965 --> 00:35:04,925 Speaker 1: you are and you in your partet and you shouldn't 632 00:35:04,965 --> 00:35:07,525 Speaker 1: have to do this. But then the church was like, um, 633 00:35:07,645 --> 00:35:12,645 Speaker 1: no covering up your face anyway. Women didn't listen, and 634 00:35:12,805 --> 00:35:16,805 Speaker 1: especially Queen Elizabeth the First and she was obsessed with 635 00:35:16,885 --> 00:35:21,725 Speaker 1: looking young. She is frequently depicted with very pale, very 636 00:35:21,725 --> 00:35:25,205 Speaker 1: pale skin. Okay, so back in the day, much of 637 00:35:25,405 --> 00:35:31,805 Speaker 1: the makeup was saturated with lead, mercury, sulfur, and or turpentine. 638 00:35:32,205 --> 00:35:37,125 Speaker 1: Other rituals included rubbing animal poo or blood on their faces. Yeah, 639 00:35:37,245 --> 00:35:39,885 Speaker 1: people still do that, right, They do the blood thing, right, 640 00:35:42,125 --> 00:35:44,805 Speaker 1: they do the vampire facials. That is no, but it 641 00:35:44,885 --> 00:35:47,805 Speaker 1: is not real and is it actually blood? Yes, they 642 00:35:47,845 --> 00:35:51,325 Speaker 1: take your blood and then they process it through. I 643 00:35:51,365 --> 00:35:53,605 Speaker 1: don't know what exactly they do, but basically they make 644 00:35:53,685 --> 00:35:56,525 Speaker 1: it with good nutrients and then they put it back 645 00:35:56,525 --> 00:35:59,885 Speaker 1: on your skin. So I don't like that and I 646 00:35:59,885 --> 00:36:03,045 Speaker 1: probably will never do that, but um I would Okay, 647 00:36:03,485 --> 00:36:05,445 Speaker 1: Well back in the day they would use like animal 648 00:36:05,605 --> 00:36:08,565 Speaker 1: blood and stuff and they would like like, hell, I 649 00:36:08,565 --> 00:36:11,885 Speaker 1: would do that too. Okay, Well anyway, fine, that's what 650 00:36:11,965 --> 00:36:14,525 Speaker 1: they did, stuff like that. But also their makeup had 651 00:36:14,685 --> 00:36:18,165 Speaker 1: lead in mercury and sulfur and stuff. That's bad. That's bad. 652 00:36:18,205 --> 00:36:22,685 Speaker 1: So anyway, Queen Elizabeth the First refused to post mortem 653 00:36:22,805 --> 00:36:25,125 Speaker 1: to be conducted, which I guess is an autopsy back 654 00:36:25,165 --> 00:36:28,085 Speaker 1: of the day and anyway, so they don't actually know 655 00:36:28,125 --> 00:36:31,085 Speaker 1: the cause of her death. However, they think that is 656 00:36:31,165 --> 00:36:34,685 Speaker 1: quite possibly because of her makeup. That's what got her. However, 657 00:36:34,845 --> 00:36:37,845 Speaker 1: she did die at the age of gabby are you 658 00:36:37,885 --> 00:36:44,845 Speaker 1: ready nine? Yes queen literal queen yes, which is old 659 00:36:44,925 --> 00:36:49,525 Speaker 1: for as we discussed, since death was so popular. Ye. So. 660 00:36:49,645 --> 00:36:52,925 Speaker 1: But back in her twenties, she contracted smallpox, which almost 661 00:36:52,965 --> 00:36:56,765 Speaker 1: took her out. She pulled through, however, left some pretty 662 00:36:56,765 --> 00:36:59,205 Speaker 1: crazy scars. So what she would do is use this 663 00:36:59,325 --> 00:37:03,445 Speaker 1: product called Venetian cyrus. Say rus, I think is how 664 00:37:03,485 --> 00:37:05,645 Speaker 1: you pronounce it. I don't know. We're probably wrong. We're 665 00:37:05,645 --> 00:37:10,805 Speaker 1: always wrong. We're always wrong. We love ourselves. I don't 666 00:37:10,805 --> 00:37:14,445 Speaker 1: know how to pronounce things. Sorry. So it's also known 667 00:37:14,485 --> 00:37:17,805 Speaker 1: as the Spirits of Saturn, and basically it was like 668 00:37:17,805 --> 00:37:20,205 Speaker 1: a skin whitener that was lead based and also had 669 00:37:20,285 --> 00:37:24,725 Speaker 1: vinegar because the pale white skin was super in vogue 670 00:37:24,765 --> 00:37:28,685 Speaker 1: at the time. So Queen Elizabeth, Queen Elizabeth would use 671 00:37:28,725 --> 00:37:32,645 Speaker 1: this religiously to cover up her smallpox scars, and at 672 00:37:32,685 --> 00:37:34,965 Speaker 1: her death it was reported that she had an inch 673 00:37:35,045 --> 00:37:40,085 Speaker 1: of this makeup caked on her face. That's a lot 674 00:37:40,445 --> 00:37:43,405 Speaker 1: to put on your face every day, an inch because 675 00:37:43,445 --> 00:37:46,485 Speaker 1: like so, lead poisoning and so they think that she 676 00:37:46,805 --> 00:37:51,205 Speaker 1: perhaps had lead poisoning. So this product caused anemia, high 677 00:37:51,245 --> 00:37:55,325 Speaker 1: blood pressure, abdominal pain, memory loss, muscle weakness, all kinds 678 00:37:55,365 --> 00:38:00,485 Speaker 1: of stuff. But it also discolored your skin, hair loss, 679 00:38:00,805 --> 00:38:05,165 Speaker 1: erosion of enamel on your teeth. So like what she's 680 00:38:05,165 --> 00:38:09,045 Speaker 1: putting on her face is basically just disintegrating her, and 681 00:38:09,165 --> 00:38:12,085 Speaker 1: so like it made her put on more. So I 682 00:38:12,125 --> 00:38:16,365 Speaker 1: guess that's what the inch of makeup was about. She 683 00:38:16,405 --> 00:38:19,165 Speaker 1: didn't even have a face by the end. Literally by 684 00:38:19,205 --> 00:38:22,725 Speaker 1: the end, she was she had very few teeth, her hair, 685 00:38:22,845 --> 00:38:26,165 Speaker 1: she was losing her hair, so she was just in 686 00:38:26,405 --> 00:38:29,445 Speaker 1: very bad shape. But so a lot of people say 687 00:38:29,485 --> 00:38:32,525 Speaker 1: that that's probably what killed her. However, there was another 688 00:38:32,805 --> 00:38:36,005 Speaker 1: So for her coronation ring, she didn't take off for 689 00:38:36,005 --> 00:38:39,565 Speaker 1: forty five years and it was like embedded into her skin, 690 00:38:39,685 --> 00:38:43,565 Speaker 1: and so they like kind of undid that, and they 691 00:38:43,565 --> 00:38:45,725 Speaker 1: think that she also could have gotten like an infection 692 00:38:45,845 --> 00:38:49,605 Speaker 1: or something from that, or perhaps it was cancer. They 693 00:38:49,645 --> 00:38:52,325 Speaker 1: don't really know, but they most popular that it was 694 00:38:52,365 --> 00:38:54,845 Speaker 1: the makeup that actually got to her. The okay, with 695 00:38:54,885 --> 00:38:57,485 Speaker 1: the coronation ring, did they just think it was infected, 696 00:38:57,765 --> 00:38:59,965 Speaker 1: Was it made of something that could hurt her or 697 00:39:00,005 --> 00:39:02,285 Speaker 1: was it. No, it's because they like tried to cut 698 00:39:02,325 --> 00:39:04,645 Speaker 1: it out of her skin, you know, and so then 699 00:39:04,805 --> 00:39:08,005 Speaker 1: you know, open wounds how they I'm sorry, this is 700 00:39:08,045 --> 00:39:10,685 Speaker 1: really gross, and it's really gross. She was just walking 701 00:39:10,725 --> 00:39:15,605 Speaker 1: around living like that. Yeah, it seems miserable anyway, So 702 00:39:15,725 --> 00:39:19,565 Speaker 1: I kind you guys, I mean, I get it. Smallpox though, 703 00:39:19,605 --> 00:39:22,645 Speaker 1: could really make you look pretty freaky, so you'll know, 704 00:39:22,885 --> 00:39:26,805 Speaker 1: I kind of understand where she's coming from. Yeah, exactly, 705 00:39:27,085 --> 00:39:34,005 Speaker 1: beauty kills it does. I got curious, so today's Queen Elizabeth, 706 00:39:34,485 --> 00:39:37,045 Speaker 1: her majesty, the Queen. I was like, what is her 707 00:39:37,085 --> 00:39:41,045 Speaker 1: makeup routine? So I googled that, you guys, it's not 708 00:39:41,485 --> 00:39:43,805 Speaker 1: it's not super spiss, it's not like confirm roomed, and 709 00:39:43,845 --> 00:39:47,045 Speaker 1: there's not like all of these super specifics. But here 710 00:39:47,125 --> 00:39:50,325 Speaker 1: is what I found. First of all, I imagine she 711 00:39:50,365 --> 00:39:54,085 Speaker 1: would smell so lovely and clean and whatnot. And so 712 00:39:54,125 --> 00:39:58,405 Speaker 1: she uses a or reportedly a rhubarb in rose bath 713 00:39:58,565 --> 00:40:02,885 Speaker 1: in shower gel by Molton Brown. Okay, her ou de 714 00:40:03,005 --> 00:40:08,765 Speaker 1: toilette is London, which is a white rose scent. I 715 00:40:09,085 --> 00:40:11,005 Speaker 1: figured she would go for a rose actually saying you 716 00:40:11,005 --> 00:40:15,085 Speaker 1: were talking, yeah, same makes sense. Um, And she apparently 717 00:40:15,205 --> 00:40:18,365 Speaker 1: uses Clarence, which I've never heard of, probably because it's 718 00:40:18,365 --> 00:40:21,845 Speaker 1: associated with like royal makeup. Um, and I'm not royal. 719 00:40:22,085 --> 00:40:26,165 Speaker 1: That's what spoiler alert, I'm not royal. You are a treasure, though, Taylor, 720 00:40:28,245 --> 00:40:35,725 Speaker 1: she's not old enough to be almost wait two more years, okay, 721 00:40:36,445 --> 00:40:39,725 Speaker 1: and then she has also reportedly the ever matt powder 722 00:40:40,365 --> 00:40:43,405 Speaker 1: is a must for her majesty. Her nail color is 723 00:40:43,605 --> 00:40:46,245 Speaker 1: Essie's Ballet slipper color. That's so boring. I want to 724 00:40:46,245 --> 00:40:49,245 Speaker 1: see some acrilics on her. That's some hot pink acrylics 725 00:40:49,285 --> 00:40:50,765 Speaker 1: on the Queen. You know she's not going to do that. 726 00:40:52,285 --> 00:40:55,765 Speaker 1: Does one nail color ever? Yeah, a lot of people 727 00:40:55,805 --> 00:40:58,525 Speaker 1: do that, I think. Oh true. And her lipstick though, 728 00:40:58,565 --> 00:41:02,965 Speaker 1: she uses pink variations of Elizabeth Arden, and I loved 729 00:41:03,045 --> 00:41:07,245 Speaker 1: this fact. She uses the world's hair brush ever manufactured, 730 00:41:07,285 --> 00:41:10,325 Speaker 1: which is the Oval Cherrywood Hairbrush, which is seventy five 731 00:41:10,365 --> 00:41:12,445 Speaker 1: dollars on Amazon if you want it. Oh my god. 732 00:41:12,485 --> 00:41:16,005 Speaker 1: But actually, shockingly, all of these products are relatively affordable 733 00:41:16,885 --> 00:41:19,845 Speaker 1: so you can look and smell just like her Majesty, 734 00:41:19,925 --> 00:41:22,445 Speaker 1: the Queen. Oh yeah, I definitely want to look just 735 00:41:22,685 --> 00:41:27,285 Speaker 1: like her, because, like you know, my curlic nails. I 736 00:41:27,365 --> 00:41:30,325 Speaker 1: need my curlic nails. Then I need my tangle teaser too. 737 00:41:30,365 --> 00:41:34,765 Speaker 1: I don't use this oval whatever. What does a tangle teezer? Finest? Oh? 738 00:41:34,805 --> 00:41:38,605 Speaker 1: It untangles your hair. It's such a good brush. Okay, 739 00:41:39,045 --> 00:41:43,565 Speaker 1: where you supposed to brush your hair? Yes? Usually anyway, 740 00:41:44,605 --> 00:41:49,605 Speaker 1: thank you all for listening. If you did, fantastic Taylor. 741 00:41:49,645 --> 00:41:54,685 Speaker 1: If they're hearing you, they're still listening. Yeah, but fair enough. Okay, whoa, 742 00:41:54,725 --> 00:41:57,765 Speaker 1: stop the bullying. I'm not a bullying girl. I'm trying 743 00:41:57,765 --> 00:42:01,365 Speaker 1: to tell Taylor to be secure in herself. Okay. Thank 744 00:42:01,405 --> 00:42:04,565 Speaker 1: you all for listening. I know you're all so happy 745 00:42:04,605 --> 00:42:13,645 Speaker 1: that you stuck through this whole episode until next week. Bye, 746 00:42:18,965 --> 00:42:26,165 Speaker 1: Gooder gal Godaver Gals is a production of School of 747 00:42:26,245 --> 00:42:29,485 Speaker 1: Humans and iHeartRadio. 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