WEBVTT - On My Momma! The K-Toe Episode 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:05.040 You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, Reggie Jr. 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:09.480 And Allen Tomanso on the Digital Soapbox Network material witness 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:13.440 on an aggregated battery. I was a hang gun and 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:21.080 they believe this might be in retaliation to her testimony. Morning, 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:24.200 good afternoon, and good evening. Welcome to another episode of 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:27.840 The Gangster Chronicles. My name is Alex Alonso from Street 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:32.320 Gangs dot Com a k a. Street TV. And usually 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:34.000 I say I'm here with my two co host, but 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:37.880 I'm only hearing my one co host today, James McDonald. 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:43.960 Reggie still here, Okay, Reggie Spirit. Reggie still here in Spirit. 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:47.280 He's about, I don't know, several hundred miles away. 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But what we're gonna be doing while 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:07.440 Reggie's gone is we're gonna always try to have not always, 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:09.239 but we're gonna try to bring in a guest. Sometimes 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:12.639 sometimes there'll be a guest. Sometimes it'll just be James 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.919 and myself chopping it up. But today we have a guest. 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:20.760 And you may you may be familiar with my guests 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:24.320 because he was on an episode of Street TV. And 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:28.720 if you look up the word survival or adversity in 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.399 the dictionary, they should have a picture of him next 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:34.919 to it. I say that because we all know somebody 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:37.480 that's been shot at We all know somebody has been 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:40.920 shot once. We might even know someone that's been shot twice. 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:45.279 But this brother has survived getting shot on three separate occasions. 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:49.519 That is a very short list for myself. And when 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:52.840 I meet those types of people, in my view, God 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.799 has a plan for them. God has touched them. So 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:58.280 you might think it's some thuggery to get shot three 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:02.560 times to survive or three Curvin separate occasions, but I 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:06.679 think it's special. Um. He's got one of the smoothest 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:11.040 voices ever. He rapped for many years, going back over 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:16.960 a decade. He currently has two podcasts right now, and 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:19.000 he has one of the dopest catch phrases you're ever 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:23.160 gonna hear. That one none other than Mr On My 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:28.200 Mama himself. Cato Fournia is in the house man, Oh 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:34.640 my Mama. I'm glad he's been saying that, man for 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:37.560 over over ten years. I got him on video saying 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:42.200 that about twelve years ago. Man too, but he double 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:45.560 loved on it My mama, Mama, Mama, yeah yeah, but 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:47.480 I was. I mean, you know, every hood and every 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:49.520 street nigga has always said on my mom on God 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:51.560 and all that type of stuff. But I was the 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:55.120 first to actually making a catchphrase on the entertainment level. 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:59.240 You know, always did everybody I lives, So that would 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:02.480 be like, you know, I'm like, oh my mo, mo 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.840 fuck him. No, I don't want you to get into 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:08.280 the details of of getting shot three times, because I 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:10.840 got a video about that coming out. But have you 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:16.320 ever met anybody who's been shot on three different occasions? No? 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:18.760 Not in real life. No actual I know one of 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:21.799 the person that's been shot on three different occasions, actually 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:24.599 know two James. I'm sure you probably know a couple. 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:26.839 But it is a short list of people been shot 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:31.719 on three different occasion A few times shooting at somebody. 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:37.680 I got shot. Um, Uh, just hanging out, I got shot, Uh, 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:40.559 leaving the fight, jumping in the car. I got shot. 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:45.520 I got my boy got you got so you got 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:48.160 more than three? Three? I was. I was shot right 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:52.800 here in nineteen. I was shot in between my my thighs. 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.840 I was shot in the back with a nine here 0:04:55.920 --> 0:05:00.160 was eight nine. I got shot by the park village 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:03.400 with a shotgun sprayed. I still got the bullets, the 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:08.080 pelletan ship in my hands. Um and this one here 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:12.000 to four different occasions. Yeah, you want a short list 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:16.880 to ja. Basically, man, I wouldn't be here if it wouldn't. 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:22.640 You know, Guys, will you know on this one? I mean, 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:26.359 but and it's some ship, You're not just gonna be 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:29.080 out there good. You know. My little brother Timmy was 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:32.560 shot twenty one times on one occasion, just a one time. 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:36.120 Then he got shot in the back, so he'd been 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:40.080 shot two different occasions. My my brother Puntre was shot 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:44.719 nine times on one occasion and he passed. So you know, 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.000 it all depends, you know some you know, it just 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:51.119 wentn't my number, you know what I'm ship. Well, we 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:54.400 we gotta. We got a video okay though that details that. 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.360 But before we get into some of the topics of 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.360 the show, I want you to talk about the two 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.000 podcasts you you've got going on. You got one with 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:06.240 yuck Mouth Smoke a Lot Radio and then you got 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.680 Tapping in with Kato. So talking about those Smoke a 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:11.240 Lot Radio we formed that, you know what I'm saying. 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:13.400 We was on another network before a few years ago, 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:15.800 and my homeboy Michaelo was the one who really got 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:19.320 me that gig with Yuck to Um get on smoke 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:20.720 a lot and be a co host because he was 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.320 offered the job really and um yeah, was like I 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:25.240 got a podcast coming back, you know what I'm saying, 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.880 Because he used to be on another network before that, 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:30.760 so Smoke a Lout. The brand already was cracking with 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:34.320 another co host, but he offered Michaelo, the John Michaelo like, no, 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.000 my nigga Kato, let him do it. You know. He 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:39.840 funny and it's a trip because the day that I 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:43.320 was offered the gig was the first day I came 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:46.720 out aside from getting shot this last time when I 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:49.240 lost my love. So it was kind of crazy to 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.960 just my It was one of the marijuana events um 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:55.360 downtown and you know, you pull up. He offered this, 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.280 so I got referred. So we end up on the 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:01.719 other network for about a year, had it cracking. That 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:05.720 was with Real TV. It was over there first. Then 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:08.440 you know, do some some creative differences. We got to 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:10.440 funk about of there. You know what I say, every 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:13.800 branded ourselves over here and be real blood from l A. 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.120 Because he's a Latino. Do South Gate? I believe I 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.560 was here someone saying he's from neighborhood family. He probably 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:21.760 South gate and probably just had some pots in the 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:26.200 security detail. You know how like that you're from from 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:29.640 south central California. My whole whole name is Kato for 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.360 you know what I'm saying. Yeah, now that's when my 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:37.800 dad selling spell not. I inherited the name that ain't 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.320 no ship I made up. My dad is Kato Mac. 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:45.400 I'm Kato Mac. He's okay though. Yeah, my pap this 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.040 twenty seven straight o g Boss Dog is my daddy, 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:51.320 Larry John Senior. I'm miss Junior. So you know I 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:53.480 inherited the name Kato. That wan't no ship. I thought 0:07:53.520 --> 0:08:00.000 was sexy. I just made it sexy when pot came out. 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:03.400 Ain't got cracking, no, you know, you know what I'm saying. 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:06.120 But you know, so Smoke a Lot ready to the 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.200 new brand. We over here with Smone Taylor. You know 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:10.840 what I'm saying, the dope actress and ship and yuck 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:13.520 Oaktown legend and now it's the real l a voice 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.320 that from South central LA that got the cache to 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:18.320 say certain ship and tap in the ship. So it's 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:24.840 the cold mix, you know, Okay, Um, so your your 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:28.800 two co hosts on Smoke a Lot. We had Yuck 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:35.480 on the show one episode like Hey he got he 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.640 got one of the energy man the coldest, he got 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:40.720 one of the coldest hits in hip hop history. Man, 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:44.720 he ain't got the number ain't never gonna stop being 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:48.400 played everybody like the Star Spangled banner from Marijuana. That's 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:51.920 like a commercial, isn't it like a commercial for every 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:56.040 alcohol brand from from just to turn Up and making 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:59.840 motherfucker's get involved financially in the turn Up? I got five? 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:03.400 Who ain't got a little? How fun? I thank you? 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:06.480 It's crazy that you could turn that just a little 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:08.520 phrase that we probably been said a million times before 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:11.040 the song, And that's how you say came up with it. 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:14.280 They were just sitting around broke and ship like piecing 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:20.360 up and music was real, something real like that, which 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:23.280 is right in your face. Every day we choose, some 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:26.400 people choose to be other motherfucker's. Yeah you know Snoop 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:29.120 Snoop Dogg said, had a line in the song that 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:30.720 I used to hear the homies said all the time 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:33.319 before that song ever came out. It ain't no fun 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.120 if the homie can't get nothing? Man, how many times? 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.199 How many years have we heard dad in the streets? 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.959 And then this guy just throws it. Always have listened 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:46.560 to that slogan, little fist, because ain't no fun if 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:49.959 the homiek had nothing out. But I think when I 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:52.560 used to hear it, it meant like, you're gonna share 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:59.760 her with the rest. There's your party, pussy, You only 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.480 got a few minutes. Everybody got Hey, I'm gonna tell 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:05.760 you something. Used to Mama used to like a cigarette 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:09.320 and when the cigarette get lower and girling, you've done 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.040 with the cigarette. It was your turn. Come on, man, 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:17.960 come on man. Anybody out there that know that, man 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:20.600 henters in the comment that was that was the way. 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:24.040 I don't even real Jesus that my silver sat niggas 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.559 know about that man. Man. I used to I used 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:28.600 to bring a girl around when I was like sixteen, 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.760 seventeen eighteen, and the older homeboy were like, man, it 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:35.760 ain't no fun if the homey can't get none, gonna 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.240 bring a bag of house and can't nobody get a couple. 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:40.760 I'm talking about like eighty five, eighty six, eighty seven. 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:42.480 I don't know what your snoop put that in the song, 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:44.240 but you know he got it from you know he 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:46.920 got it. He got it from the soil. Yeah. So 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.440 you know there's there's these phrases that we've been hearing 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.560 for years that turned into millions of dollars for some 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.199 of these rappers. Crazy hunt and the soody can give 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.760 them more my Mama money. Now he's been raped so 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:01.480 many times on your Mama is being used by a 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:03.800 very well known rapper from out of the Athens. Oh 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:08.079 my mamma. Yeah, j I stayed over there in that 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.920 building on a Hunt twenty six and fig two. The 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:14.360 real building befolds even food around that motherfucker. Yeah you 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:16.520 know yeah, yeah, oh my mo mamah. Yeah, you know 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.319 what I'm saying. But I don't think he got it 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:20.960 for me and nothing. But it's it's a Ghettohood inspired time. 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:23.679 And I you know, I say great minds thinking like 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:30.439 ship fuck it cool now we gotta talk about But 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.040 he might have heard the mixtape. You know what I'm saying. 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:35.480 You know that used to bang my ship, so you 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:42.880 never yeah, that's the street ship. It's like saying, do God. Alright. 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:46.000 So so this is this is our first episode without 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:49.000 Reggie Wright Jr. Man And you know, I'm thinking about 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:51.199 the brother right now. He's sitting somewhere, probably in the 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:55.920 cell and at Water, California, in the federal penitentry. In fact, 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.760 he's in the camp, but that camp is connected to 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:02.120 a maximum cured He's not connected, and it's not connected. 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.160 It's about it across the street or something. Let's in 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:08.360 the quarter mile. Let's it's right across. That's what I 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:15.280 wanted to Yeah, it's. Man. When we got there, one 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:19.520 of the immates came out on the bicycle. Who it 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:23.520 about the gate out of the little yard on the bike. 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:26.600 So I stopped him, be nicing, man, we're dropping off. Man, 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:29.000 who woa? So he gets to telling us what we 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:32.400 got to do. After that, dude gets on the bike 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:37.520 and start ride through the parking lot. So yet, yeah, 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:41.680 he good, But it was it was it was crazy 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:46.320 driving him down there. And then, you know, looking at 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.719 my rear view, looking at him, you know why he 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:52.360 was trying to sleep. I kept acting him you got 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:55.240 the butterflies. Yet, you got the butterflies. Yet, I'm knowing 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.840 what he's going I'm knowing what he's going through. He's 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:01.760 sitting there thinking of old time. Man, I'm about to 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:05.559 be without my family, my wife, the whole mind. And 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:07.480 I don't know what to respect when I get in 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:11.040 this place. So just talking to him and just trying to, 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:14.560 you know, reassuring that you know what, man you could, 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:16.560 you could man ain't nobody, you know what I'm saying. 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:22.839 It still took effect on him where you can just 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:25.679 now you see how nervous he is when we hit 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:28.719 that corner and he's seen that building, that building, that 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:32.880 bible wire and ship. He was he had to take 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.440 a deep breath. We went and sit down and eight 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:39.640 he couldn't. He couldn't even that was the stomach, that 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:42.200 was the butterflies, and you ain't been to take nothing down. 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:45.640 And then we went from from this side of the 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.800 yard to that side of the yard, and you know, 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:52.240 we sat down and we actually had a conversation. You 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:55.280 know what I'm saying on how his daddy felt about 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:59.280 this situation, because he made numerous calls, just talking, talking, 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:02.440 and he kept calling his family and just I'm gonna 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:07.520 be good. I'm gonna be good. Which any man that 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.640 that's been going there first time, you're gonna get the 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.199 butterflies and you're gonna get the same ship that Reggie did. 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:16.120 You know what I'm saying. For the first time. And yeah, 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.280 when you just take your first your first ride, you 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:22.640 get first d And Reggie was a police officer. Man, 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:28.080 Reggie wasn't us. Reggie never do Onlyn side. He's seeing 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:31.160 of the yard was finger putting your ass and all that. 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:33.920 He was the jailer when he first started off jailer. 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:37.560 So but now you go from taking the cuffs off 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:42.080 of motherfucker's to put them on raising his hands in 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:44.320 the in the dude that the gates had to search it. 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.040 I want your I d go sit back in the 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:51.840 car here listening to their commands. Command once Gay, So 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.800 what was did he have to be there at a deadline, 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.480 like a certain time? They wanted him there at two o'clock, 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.320 but we took off at five in the morning. And 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:04.400 I mean I didn't. I didn't have a problem driving 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.360 him down there, which I wanted to be that point, 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:09.680 you know what I'm saying, because I know what it's like. 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.520 Why didn't his all wife take him because he didn't 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.880 want to? And that was my thing with him too, 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:17.200 you know, she getting up in the morning and driving 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.000 you down and she got to drive back by herself. 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.120 You know what I'm saying. Pops had to do his thing. 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:24.520 His moms had to work well, his father is definitely 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:28.040 too elderly to do it. And it's only right that 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:32.680 his friends, Yeah, I focused you call you friends, say okay, 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:34.760 come over in this roll. That had been a harder 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:36.960 type of entrance though, coming up in there and your 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:40.320 wife and your kid dropping you off, and it's what's that. 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:43.840 That's like the self, that's the phone in there. You're 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:45.840 gonna be constant. You didn't know Reggie used to be 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:47.360 a cop back in the day before he was had 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.040 his first tip top first time being you know what 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:52.640 I'm saying, incarcerated or something because you know, but it's 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:54.840 a good thing. And the reason why I said it's 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:59.200 a good thing is because Reggie get to see all 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:00.920 the ship I talked and I'm sitting over there and 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:07.040 he didn't lean him back, you know, defending that. Now 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.800 you're sitting in his motherfucker on the other side, and 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:14.920 now you're gonna have are you're gonna appreciate my position. 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:17.480 Now that point of view gonna change a lot of 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:22.840 levels opposed to yours. So, I mean, man, it was 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:25.720 it was. It was crazy taking him down there, and 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.160 who was your last conversation with him, like before he 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:31.280 had to um, I guess turning go into the building. 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:33.640 Were you able to walk in the building with him? No, 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:37.640 actually we was. They made us get back in the 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:39.800 car because they weren't gonna let all of us come 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.280 to the gate but him. So we got back in 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:45.760 the in the car and uh, I'm I'm trying to 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:48.840 family go through the gate and they told me you 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.440 can't film man. Fuck dad, I'm in the film and 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:55.160 going through this gate. But I put it down because 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:58.040 he was nervous. They made him come back after they 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.680 ran a check on him and say okay, yeah, belong here, 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:05.200 and then then they called him again. And then after 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:07.159 they did that, we thought we was gonna have to 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:09.280 take him back to the camp. But they went on 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.199 and took him inside the gate, and after they searched 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.160 him and had his hands up and all that, ship 0:17:14.960 --> 0:17:17.479 he all right. Because we was trying to leave when 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.960 we first got him there. We was going to pull 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:23.280 up in this motherfuck drop him off, and we're gonna 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:26.240 go get back on the highway before traffic. You know 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.000 what I'm saying. I didn't want to get caught in 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:31.399 the traffic. I drove up and back. So he was like, 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:34.760 I ain't trying to go up in here this early. Okay, 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:39.240 we understand, and uh, me and and Brian just shooting 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:41.920 the ship at the gas station. Then we had to 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:46.600 drive all the way from the at water go get 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:50.080 something to eat, set there and talk, setting the parking 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:52.920 lot and shot the ship for a minute to kill time, 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:55.760 and then we just went on and took him up 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:59.240 there and they did their thing, and it was crazy 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:01.639 leaving without him. Man, it was like, damn when they 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:06.359 for real? Man, now this official. Yeah. I looked up 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:11.600 on the Bureau of Prisons website his release date. It's February, 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:18.280 February one. Yeah, but my cousin is a correct correction officer. 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:20.560 He called me after he seen the video and he 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:23.399 was telling me that that's gonna change once they get 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:26.240 him in the area and short out his time so 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:29.119 he can get his time Shorten said he might have 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:33.920 action because he had the bracelet on for the year. 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:37.159 So if they do that, Reggie got love. Reggie be 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:39.760 home way sooner than we know. So he just told 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:45.240 me to getting shaped, get right. No, they over there good, Yeah, 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:47.840 he said, they get cakes pass and all that ship 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:53.360 ship Now, I noticed he had on the death Row 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.399 shirt while y'all was driving him up, but when he 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:58.480 walked in, it didn't look like he still had that 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:04.239 death Row shirt. It ain't been warm trying to keep right. 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:07.360 I mean, if I mean that's how you feel, that's 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:09.840 how you feel. I have went in there with it 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:14.879 just a T shirt me. But Reggie, I mean, that 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:18.320 could bring all different types of ship. And then it 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:23.240 ain't like motherfucker's didn't know he was coming. Yeah. Yeah, 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:27.120 they listen to the now Cato on on smokel Our Radio. 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:31.240 You had both Reggie and James on the show about 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:33.479 what two weeks ago? About two two weeks about three 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:37.960 last weeks ago? Yeah, yeah, you guys didn't. I didn't 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:40.920 even get to Uh we had fun over there. We're 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:44.480 just talking to don't we just kind of just breakfast 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:47.159 Club two point oh type of ship. We just conversate 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:49.920 and have fun on that motherfucker like we touched it, 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:53.919 but probably not as an intricate detail like y'all. Reggie 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:57.439 had me over there too. Oh yeah, what happened? He's entertaining. 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:02.000 We had a conversation about, uh what Blad had posted? 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:05.680 Oh I did that? You guys talking about the lad 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:11.200 posting reparations, right, you know, why would you think like that. 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:14.639 You know you're making money off blacks, regardless off there's 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:18.320 voluntary or not. You're getting paid, So why would you 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:21.760 eat off me and then speak on me in this fashion? 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:26.959 One black representations all to me. So I can honestly 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:29.680 say I said here in this chair and and and 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:33.680 said black was he helped me when when I was 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:36.000 at the time where I wanted to speak out. But 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:39.000 what the funk do that matter? If this is how 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:42.080 you're talking, you know, you show your true colors. I 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:45.600 can flip like that. You're the wrong person to say that. 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:50.960 That's deep, that's deep. I haven't seen the tweet myself. 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:54.879 I would like to see the tweet and read how 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:58.479 he the context he played And um, he wasn't asked 0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:02.240 that ship, you know what, I'm just Ship decided to say, 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:05.960 so that that takes a lot of the their That 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:08.560 pumps a lot of air into the bullshit because he 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:13.760 wasn't asked. So you gave an honest opinion. World you 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:15.720 felt you know what I'm saying. So you're getting comfortable 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:17.840 because most of your bread comes from our ups and 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:21.240 are damn you. So did Reggie take a position that 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:24.080 he agreed that it was too late for reparations or 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:26.720 something from from show I'm hearing about Reggie. Reggie took 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:31.320 a Reggie position Devil's advocate type ship. Fuck it? And 0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:33.480 that's why I asked, and I said, I think you 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:35.560 just be trolling and saying some of that ship because 0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:37.960 you can't believe some of this ship, but not that 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:41.320 you're telling me the d Cent law enforcement and him. 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:43.119 You know, I'm thinking he had a little thug juice dripping. 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:45.840 So some of that ship I used to rebuttals when 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:51.520 you know, I'm not talking about the gangster part of 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:53.320 about the person. I'm talking about the outlook when he 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:55.679 said earlier about him going to sit down, gonna make 0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:58.680 him understand his angle searching, So I mean it on 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:01.679 that level, not gangster. And I'm talking about far as 0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:05.200 how you siprocate ship, Well, he definitely got to understand 0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:10.600 it now by by being behind there. Are they gonna 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:14.119 treat you different in there than every other inmate in there? No? 0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:19.720 No they're not. No state is the inmate's gonna treat 0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:25.239 you like that? Now, So you know that's one thing 0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:27.320 by being in prison. You might have to worry by 0:22:27.400 --> 0:22:29.200 the motherfucker just mad that you didn't want to just 0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:33.200 stab your ass. You that don't want to go home. 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:35.640 Fucking I go back over there. But I got that mother. 0:22:35.760 --> 0:22:38.440 But everybody at that campus got short time. It don't matter. 0:22:39.240 --> 0:22:41.840 A lot of men that had uh two days and 0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:44.240 wake up and win to stabb the motherfucker. I can't 0:22:44.359 --> 0:22:47.560 leave this yard without getting this motherfucker. Some motherfucker's don't 0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:51.480 turn up to They can't with that mentality. And and 0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:56.840 and I can't exclude him from not having somebody to 0:22:56.920 --> 0:23:00.760 feel that way or whatever, but to take up for 0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:03.480 people and you know they're wrong, like Reggie do. We 0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:07.520 didn't argue many times sitting here, and my point is 0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:11.680 now he see what I'm talking about because you on 0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:14.159 the other side of defense. I don't think it's going 0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:17.000 to change the way you think. So you think when 0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:18.760 Regg get out, he's gonna have a kind of a 0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:22.800 different outlook, different on a lot of on a lot 0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:25.800 of ships or not. Because when you sit here and say, 0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:29.160 when we were talking about going out and those guys 0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:31.560 was acting, can they start this what was that that 0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:36.000 in Madrid somewhere and how he was like, oh yeah, 0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:39.880 gang bangers going to rule hold up. I don't given 0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:44.600 how you cutting you damn their game are you know 0:23:44.680 --> 0:23:48.639 what I'm saying. So so going to jail, having to 0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:52.280 sit down, he gonna, he gonna he's living with people. 0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:57.200 But here's my question, as Reggie Wright being the head 0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:01.320 of Death Row security, he had to turn his face 0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:05.240 at a lot of criminal activity like beatens and assaults. 0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:08.280 He knew people was getting stomped out. The question we 0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:10.360 should ask Reggie why he was here, but why would 0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:12.320 he have to turn his face? But I'm saying he 0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:15.800 was able to accept that. He put himself in an 0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:20.359 environment where all kind of assaults and all kinds of things. Understand, 0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:26.800 Reggies got damped up. He's just a different us, you 0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:29.600 know what I'm saying. He ain't unleashed, he ain't let out. 0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:34.520 Reggie is another one of us. He just a black man. 0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:39.240 I don't want to call him a nigga, but he 0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:42.960 definitely does not believe that there's a problem with unarmed 0:24:43.240 --> 0:24:46.120 people of color getting shot by the police. He don't 0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:48.520 think that's the problem. That's that's that's not true. I 0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:51.479 don't care what position he's stand behind the beach always 0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:56.160 supports the police officer and make that stand to make 0:24:56.520 --> 0:24:59.320 games of chronicles what it is we have to do, 0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:04.400 you know, agree to disagree Devil's advocate. But if that's 0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:07.800 the if that's the I I think he took that 0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:10.880 role as Devil's advocates so strongly he developed his own 0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:15.360 mental capacity and setting that bullshit. He believe Reggie Reggie. 0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:19.040 When Reggie was officer, he's totally different from what you see. 0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:25.000 His opinion and his input and ship was was he 0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:27.600 was rough. Well where was the mental switch at? When 0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:30.200 did the ship switching click to the next side to 0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:32.399 the dark side? And I don't know why we never 0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:36.840 even spoke on that. When when you're here and when 0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:40.920 Reggie Reggie was a police officer, and I think we 0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:44.879 did talk about that. The conversation came up about shuged 0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:49.159 being kidnapped and all that ship. Reggie Senior called Reggie right, 0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:55.160 his son Junior Junior, Get what sugar they're talking down? 0:25:55.320 --> 0:26:00.119 He becomes part of death Row. Now, you know, you 0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:03.040 don't embarked on something totally different now because the police 0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:05.960 is already looking at death Row. Now we got police 0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:09.320 officers here in death Row which I didn't like, and 0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:12.560 I've said it on this show, Blad and everywhere else. 0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:15.280 And I so told Reggie is I don't think you 0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:20.480 should be here the police because by him coming there, 0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:23.200 you gotta look at all of these guys sitting against 0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:27.320 this wall. You have arrested these brothers, the Homers, and 0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:31.320 now you have to work with it. So, like Reggie said, 0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:34.800 it took time for us to even like get to 0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:38.800 get to fill each other. But in the same choken, 0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:41.360 I know y'all seen deep covering all that other ship. 0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:46.200 The longer you stay in, the more you're gonna learn 0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:50.879 how to get reset. You're one of us, and and 0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:54.800 and and and he and it. Gradually it came that, 0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:59.560 I know y'alln't called Reggie many times saying one of 0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:02.600 the home, he's one of us, and then whatnot that 0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:06.280 I ain't I ain't never game, but he kept He 0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:08.879 catches himself a lot of time where he puts himself 0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:12.240 as one of the mob par rules, but then he says, no, no, no, 0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:13.720 I never wasn't a member of the mall. And the 0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:16.080 reason why you do that is because he had and 0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:19.240 Reggie grew up in the neighborhood you know what I'm saying, 0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:22.439 And by growing up in the neighborhood, now you're arresting 0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:27.080 motherfucker's now you he ain't beating him, but a couple 0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:29.800 of couple of cats he had fights with that. I'm 0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:32.480 not going to jail. Now you gotta wrestle him and 0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:36.080 and and go to jail. But where where where where 0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:39.280 I met is Reggie had to like gradually get into 0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:43.639 what his position at death role before they even started 0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:46.359 interacting with each other. You know what I'm saying. You 0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:48.080 got the cops on this side, and then you got 0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:49.639 the blows on this side, and then you got the 0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:53.280 cryption the studio. So Reggie and was just their own 0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:57.399 little thing and he was sucking shure. So now the 0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:00.720 homies is okay. Regg is he own one? He doing this, 0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:08.760 He doing okay. So now he accepted. Now, I think 0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:12.200 a lot of neighborhoods have that one guy that became 0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:15.320 a cop or went to the military. In fact, recently 0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:18.120 there was a guy named Pierre Romayne who actually went 0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:22.000 to um Verbon Day with um with Reggie, right, But 0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:24.960 Pierre roman was from rolling sixties crib and then he 0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:27.560 went to the military. Then he became a cop, but 0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:29.840 then they charged him with an old murder that happened 0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:32.040 in the eighties because of d n A. And he 0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:36.159 was found guilty of seven murder back in two thousand 0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:38.840 seventeen or too no, uh, he was resting two thousand 0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:40.520 and seventeen. He was just found guilty this year, two 0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:43.640 thousand nineteen. But I'm wondering how many people did we 0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:47.080 grow up with that became cops and went to the military, 0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:50.600 And yeah, I think there's a whole lot lot. Yeah, 0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:54.040 do we look at them. Here's a question we always 0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:56.480 look at the police department is like, man, it's too white. 0:28:56.960 --> 0:28:59.200 It don't look like us. But then when there is 0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:01.080 someone that looks like us as a cop, we say, 0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:04.160 sell out, Uncle Tom. But but a lot of them 0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:06.920 don't take on the they just like us attitude. They 0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:10.200 turned into them until some some tumultuos happened in their 0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:11.920 life and they need to niggas back, they need to 0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:14.520 ghetto back, but they don't. Just like I said on 0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:17.080 one day on the show, like and there's no been 0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:21.000 no documentations of one black cop at least getting that 0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:23.160 his co workers, Like we do need to be retrained. 0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:25.920 We new need to be read. Who who? So you 0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:28.920 know what I'm saying that they don't. It's always shut 0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:31.440 up this, you know what I'm saying. Or the nigga 0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:33.400 with the stripes that don't give fun, he already been 0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:37.560 reset so tough. It's like ships. So yeah, it's gonna 0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:40.320 be like that. But that's a small cases. Like Reggie, 0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:43.040 you got niggas that that hood, that hood life took 0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:45.600 over and he rather to be hood than on that 0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:49.440 other side. He had fun over there. It's not just that. 0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:52.640 It's white cops too that that feel that way. You know, 0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:54.840 they grew up a certain kind of way, but then 0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:58.800 down Mexican police officers, they grew up a certain kind 0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:01.400 of way. They go to the military, they come home, 0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:05.680 what jobs do they have available for them being police officers? Correctly, 0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:08.840 because they take it a whole other way. They insert 0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:10.960 their people into the system so they can look out 0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:14.040 for their people. Is wrong. We just don't do that. 0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:16.520 We just don't do it, you know what I'm saying. 0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:21.480 But never wrong with it. If every motherfucking thugged me, 0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:25.200 that just woking the street right now today, say he 0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:28.160 haven't encountered the cop that he ever sit back on 0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:30.560 the car and conversated with he is a goddamn line. 0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:33.160 How do you think they get to know you and 0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:37.880 and funk with you like that? The White Card used 0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:40.240 to do that, you know when the White Card come out. Yea, 0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:44.200 they want to get your whole name and everything, gang 0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:48.000 name and all that. Ship. Come on, man, But yeah, 0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:51.640 Reggie is Reggie is totally is different and he's gonna 0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:54.680 be different when he comes on. All right, straighten up 0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:56.800 and fly right. I'm gonna go through some fact checks 0:30:56.840 --> 0:31:00.320 from last week. There's only a few here. Reggie actually 0:31:00.320 --> 0:31:03.480 brought up the name of a Compton police officer that 0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:08.040 had killed two Samoans, and he said, uh, it's not 0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:10.280 on my list. Remember, because um, I made a list 0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:13.840 addressing your question from two weeks ago, how many how 0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:16.480 many cops have been charged with murder? So I looked 0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:19.160 up Al Skiles. And the reason why Al Skiles didn't 0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:21.080 show up on my list is because he wasn't charged 0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:26.320 with murder. He was actually charged with voluntary manslaughter onto 0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:29.040 Samoans and he and he beat well, he got a 0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:32.160 hung jury and then they didn't even prosecute him after that. 0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:37.960 But in he claimed that two Samoan brothers attacked him. 0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:43.120 Um Pali v to a Lua Lele thirty four and 0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:47.000 his brother it's TOLLI twenty two. We're both shot and 0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:50.640 killed by Officer Al Skiles of the Compton Police Department. 0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:54.760 This is before they became the Sheriff's And uh, yeah, 0:31:54.920 --> 0:31:56.800 he killed two Simons. Do you remember that happening in 0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:59.760 the Compton in ninety one? James I heard about it 0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:05.240 and they charged him. He went to trial and got 0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:09.440 a hung jury and that was the end of the case. 0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:15.760 Two men unarmed and get a man slaughtered. Well, they 0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:18.080 charged him with They didn't even charge him with murder. 0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:22.880 They're just charging with voluntary manslaughter because he said that 0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:26.840 they threatened him. And I guess it becomes his story 0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:30.000 against the two dead guys stories. Man. I swear to God, 0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:32.040 that's one thing they need to take from the police. 0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:34.840 I feared for my life. If you fear for your 0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:38.040 mothercker life, you need to quit. Yeah. Yeah, if you 0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:44.000 scared your job, you need to quit. Wow. Um. We 0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:48.840 also talked about homeboys pushing up on on other guys 0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:51.880 women and when we mentioned this one woman that actually 0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:57.440 has babies by two Jackson brothers, Um, I couldn't remember 0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:03.280 her name last week. Her name is Andra genevive Oza. 0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:09.360 She's from Colombia. She met She met Randy Jackson in 0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:13.080 eighty six. They never married and she had two kids 0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:18.000 with Randy, Genevieve and Randy Jr. But while Randy was 0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:23.680 out of town one day, Jermaine starts dating his brother's 0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:29.960 girlfriend and then they secretly get married. In um, Randy 0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:34.200 was hot as you, and um he ended up having 0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:38.440 two kids with her, Jeremiah Jackson born in ninety six 0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:43.040 and Gerr Majesty Jackson born in two thousand. So, um, 0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:49.320 it's an interesting dynamic. They keep you Daddy is a mask, niggas, 0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:55.760 They keeping that ship real real, real motherson for all 0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:59.840 of those because that was his brother's baby mama. Yeah, 0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:02.560 something you never touched. If you get out like that, 0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:07.000 you're with anything and anybody's chick. But then eventually Jermaine 0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:11.840 actually married her and then they got divorced. Well he 0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:13.960 got married, he though, so when he came back from tour, 0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:16.480 how the fund was Thanksgiving that year? Oh man, I 0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:18.719 wonder I would love it to that long got damn 0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:21.000 Randy Jackson. I would like to know what that first 0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:26.680 conversation between Randy and Jermain, was like, man, I leave 0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:32.439 out the channel. You're gonna go fuck my bench because 0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:35.200 too much, So how are we gonna do this? You 0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:37.400 just take my woman like that. You're supposed to be 0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:40.120 my brother. Foo. She's from Colombia. I don't care where 0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:45.520 she from. Chapels are, uncle, but you take her. You 0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.319 have heard I'm gonna keep your nose right ever, talk 0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:53.520 to me again, clown. So then Jermain actually just sat 0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:56.840 there and let it all happen. Jermaine finds out that 0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:01.719 Alejandro Genevieve was actually married married still married to someone 0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:07.840 else and was able to get his marriage annulled. She 0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:11.239 just came in there, she came white, everybody out. And 0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:14.200 you know what's funny is now she's got she's got 0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:17.440 four kids by the Jackson's. She's living in the Haven, 0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:21.040 hers house in the valley, the Big Jackson House, and 0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:26.680 Mama Jackson actually told her you have to leave before 0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:30.520 she do though, I would have tested those kids. Yeah, 0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:33.920 they could have been kids. Man, she already got another 0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:37.200 husband somewhere, So what else is she doing now? I 0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:42.680 saw pictures of kids. They they looked just like she 0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:44.840 ran a play now what's your few kato on this 0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:47.560 on this woman that ended up, you know, having kids 0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:50.160 by brothers. They should have treated her like she well, 0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:52.480 she came in like the bed horse she should have been. 0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:54.359 They didn't know, they didn't They didn't know that at 0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:58.480 the time Randy met her when she was seventeen and 0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:01.520 Randy was twenty four. So was that when he was 0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:06.640 Barry gordy daughter. No, Jermaine was with Barry Gordy. But 0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:09.480 so Jermaine slipped in aftery don't take it personal after 0:36:09.520 --> 0:36:12.000 his hit ran out, I guess, so that would have 0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:18.440 been in uh, when Jermaine started dating Randy's girlfriend, But 0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:21.279 by this time he was Jermaine was already divorced from 0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:26.719 from Hazel Gordy and he already left another woman named 0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:30.959 Margaret maul Denado, who he had. He had a baby 0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:34.919 by Hazel Gordy and Margaret Maldonado around the same time. 0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:39.040 And then Hazel was fed up with Jermaine, she divorced Jermaine, 0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:43.240 and then after after he left Margaret Maldonado or Margaret 0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:48.120 left Jermaine, Jermaine started dating Randy's girlfriend. A woman don't 0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:50.160 want to stuck up man. A woman don't want a 0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:53.000 man to thank you. Pretty that she is, and that's 0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:57.040 what the Jackson was. They thought they was pretty people 0:36:57.120 --> 0:37:00.279 on this planet and the name was more ain't with 0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:02.800 the other brothers getting a main like hey man, you're tripping. 0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:06.080 Man didn't say nothing. Okay, though it ain't no fun 0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:12.040 if the brother can't have so jest at it's always 0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:14.680 a hop. You gotta come in thinking like that and 0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:17.799 knowing what you bring into the house. She even even 0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:22.319 get out like well, I read a quote from from Genevieve. 0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:28.000 Genevieve and she said that Randy, the first boyfriend, never 0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:32.040 really treated her as the one. And when she met Germaine, 0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:34.920 who was the older brother, he was more mature and 0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:37.960 he really took the relationship more serious. Yeah, he had 0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:41.040 that grown man swag. No, no, that don't matter. If 0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:43.560 she was a good woman, a woman of standards, she 0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:46.400 did deal with what she got already and tried to 0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:50.520 You said, you can mold Joe, man, what do you 0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:54.719 want the mother to be? I don't think. Man, Come on, baby, 0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:56.399 you gotta get up and do this. Come on, baby, 0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:58.280 you gotta do that. But you can't tell the Jackson 0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:04.920 though they like you just said they was standards. So 0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:08.359 he's doing his thing and she was so excessful. It's 0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:13.880 still a no touch zone. Well, unfortunately, Katherine Jackson, the 0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:18.040 matriarch of the family, told her, you have to leave 0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:20.239 here with all them grandkids out the house, and they 0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:22.080 actually had to. It took a while to get her out. 0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:25.640 The pops A big, big joe was taken down, like, uh, 0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:29.040 motherfucker's all in housekeepers and ships, so you know they 0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:31.839 don't fake out from their daddy. Hey, the still mill 0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:36.880 workers ain't no joke man. Shit. Well that's from last weekly. 0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:41.560 Don't want to They hired from within. Alejandra Genevivea Osiaza 0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:44.279 is her name. And the last fact check from last 0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:46.759 week is um James. When you were talking about when 0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:49.919 you you were telling some amazing Tom Klein stories during 0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:53.840 the Fern Hill Record days, you had mentioned that you 0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:57.640 were staying in Laguna with someone named Biggie, just explain 0:38:57.760 --> 0:38:59.920 who Biggie is. It's not Biggie Smalls. It's not Chris 0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:03.200 for Wallace, not at all. Baby bigg is a little 0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:07.920 hommy and and me and him was doing the Fernheel thing. 0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:11.480 We had the house with the pood and baby Biggie 0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:13.319 was one of the guys that I copied the house 0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:16.000 with us. Not no Biggie Smalls, none of that. No, 0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:21.080 So it was baby Biggie all right. All right, So 0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:25.879 let's get one of the questions from this guy named 0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:30.240 Chuck m C m x C on Instagram is related 0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:32.600 to Reggie, who were just talking about. So let's go 0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:36.520 ahead and ask this question. Why why does Reggie Wright 0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:40.440 hate Black people so much? He always thinks we are 0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:43.200 guilty and up to no good and quick to make 0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:47.080 excuses for everyone else, especially the police. Now I know 0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:49.919 I've known Reggie for a while. I know he don't 0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:54.440 hate black people. But I can understand this guy's question, 0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:59.960 this brother's question. Um James, help help this brother understand 0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:06.760 and Reggie Chuck every I mean listening to Reggie, Reggie 0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:10.640 is totally different from how we think coming from a 0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:16.920 police mentality, arresting you know, men of color and and 0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:19.759 dealing with the attitudes and all of that. Reggie is 0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:22.680 totally different. You don't hate black people. He's black. He 0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:24.799 would have to hate his mama. You could have self hate. 0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:26.680 There are people, there are black folks that don't like 0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:29.560 black people, right, I mean, once you live up under 0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:32.960 that that certain code he was on, you know, wearing 0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:37.160 the blue and doing his thing. Reggie mindset was, you know, 0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:41.279 what we do is is criminal ship. You know what 0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:44.759 I'm saying. But you know, slowly, with shortly, Reggie ship 0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:48.080 is catching up, has caught up with him on you know, 0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:51.480 the things we do, how we get down and actually 0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:54.319 letting him see, you're a regular motherfucker just like us, 0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:58.440 a regular person, you know what I'm saying. But Reggie 0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:00.279 just had a lot of ship, a lot of things 0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:02.680 that he had to clear up his chest and and 0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:05.920 and be able to sit right here and just call 0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:10.120 it for what it is. But Reggie don't see it 0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:15.960 like that. Reggie see from a police perspective. So if 0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:19.160 you can understand my perspective, you gotta understand he is 0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:22.719 because of where he comes from, you know, his background. 0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:27.000 But like Reggie said many many times, you know, I 0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:31.839 ain't been in policing over twenty years. So he still 0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:36.040 don't think like us. Yeah, So I mean, I only 0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:38.880 to answer that question, Reggie thought at black people. His 0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:43.040 his way of thinking is totally different. I think he 0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:46.880 thinks that that certain things should be better with with 0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:49.680 us or it's not gonna get better with us. So 0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:54.279 Reggie is like Rocky, but I know him, I know 0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:57.920 him real good, and I know he is not about color. 0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:00.839 It's about what we do and how we it down. Now, 0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:05.359 I'm Reggie is in a position where he's seeing us 0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:09.759 in him laying on that bunk at nine, than it 0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:13.839 living clock nighttime, coming in in the inside. You gotta 0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:16.560 come in at nine, Reggie getting what we got, not 0:42:16.640 --> 0:42:21.399 only understand it. So you'll see a different Reggie, Chuck, 0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:25.239 You'll see a different Reggie. Thanks Chuck Chuck on Instagram. Now, 0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:27.960 I noticed when we talk about gang trucers, because there's 0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:30.120 a lot of gang trusers being talked about in Los 0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:36.239 Angeles right now. Reggie is completely pessimistic about any sort 0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:40.799 of trucing and discussions that take place with gang neighborhood. 0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:43.360 And I hate that, man. And I hate that because 0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:48.640 if if me personally I say I'm done with that, 0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:52.120 that's not And I hear other motherfuckers say, how do 0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:56.440 you denounce your your your your hood. I'm not denouncing nothing. 0:42:57.080 --> 0:43:00.759 I'm fifty five, I'm fifty five years old. I'm not 0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:04.479 a teenager. I'm not gonna live the gang banging life 0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:06.680 and I'm not gonna do that. And and there's a 0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:09.440 lot of men out there in the same position, so 0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:13.799 you're not gonna see me say I'm I'm living this life. 0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:16.279 I turned over this, but I'm still throwing up a 0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:20.440 po shaying how you doing blood or whatever, And nobody 0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:26.359 heard me come that way or say that. So man, 0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:28.239 come on, man, you gotta help me with with with 0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:32.360 that one, because he just doesn't have any belief in 0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:35.160 this type of conversation. And I want to ask Catto 0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:40.800 because Kato, you know firsthand about neighborhoods that can be 0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:45.480 enemies and then somehow figure it out and become allies again. 0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:48.640 And I'm specifically I'm talking about the forties and the thirties. 0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:52.120 They had a ten year war from I think nineties. 0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:56.160 Can you talk about that a little bit and how 0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:58.440 real that was? That that was very real because like 0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:01.560 you know, we was our friends, you know, and grew 0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:05.440 up together, like from Normandy King Elementary Manual to Crenshaw, 0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:08.880 you know, even homies at Dorsey. Whether motherfucker's choosed to 0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:11.920 know that Crenshaw had a different rule set, but you 0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:14.719 get what I'm saying. And at the same time, all 0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:17.040 hood was the flagship for the forties. You know what 0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:19.719 I'm saying, our homies and their homes because at one 0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:21.880 time it was hard in the thirties and forties, you 0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:24.720 know what I'm saying, before the neighborhood came into play 0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:27.279 and separated a lot of things after you know, a 0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:30.560 trade and sixties chopped up the cript car so tough. 0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:35.120 So our beef was more like fucked up for me 0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:37.160 because I went to Autoba Crenshaw. I'm looking at my 0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:38.759 niggas I went to junior high school with. But in 0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:41.800 high school was suck them niggas, but back your minds, 0:44:41.840 --> 0:44:44.759 like damn you go home and go with their sister home. 0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:46.719 We got a baby body, you know what I'm saying. Like, 0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:52.000 so it's it's It's happened in a lot of other 0:44:52.080 --> 0:44:54.840 hoods that had problems and squashed it, you know what 0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:57.359 I'm saying. But ours was more intimate because we really 0:44:57.400 --> 0:44:59.880 actually grew up with the niggas than than really you 0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:02.440 from folk Shat, you know what I'm saying. And um, 0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:05.560 when Tookie died, you know what I'm saying, old heads 0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:08.759 decided from my neighborhood. You know, we ain't gonna be 0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:12.640 smashing on other key ways. No more, we don't. And 0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:15.080 you know what I'm saying. And so in December of 0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:19.320 two thousand five, that's when Tookie was executed. That inspired 0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:22.400 conversations between the thirties and the forties to come to 0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:26.120 a piece of understanding that was that that that's when 0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:28.120 it happened. That's when it was official. You know what 0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:30.560 I'm saying to where like you know what I'm saying, 0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:34.080 homies that had personal beef with them, y'all got they 0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:38.040 had a form to settle that. But no, man, when 0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:39.840 one person is bigger than the hood. So if the 0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:42.080 hood is staying, that's what it is. If you're from 0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:43.719 this hood, that's what it is, whether you like it 0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:45.960 or not. Period. And they don't have to go have 0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:50.279 barbecues and hang out with a motherfucker. But the rule said, 0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:52.560 it's it's it's what it is. Because you know, my 0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.440 hood is particularly ran from the inside out and off 0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:58.680 the outside in. So it's what it's protocols, what it is. 0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:02.120 That's what they say, that's what's gonna happen. And it's 0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:05.200 been good ever since um two thousand and six and 0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:08.120 been as far as our our dealings with them, the 0:46:08.200 --> 0:46:10.120 dealings they got with other niggas that used to be 0:46:10.200 --> 0:46:13.200 allies with them. That's a changing of the guard on 0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:16.239 a whole another level. And that just goes to sell 0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:19.400 you that a lot of the guidance is gone and 0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:23.759 this new generation don't remember old beefs, you know. And 0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:26.439 then you got this new epidemic of funck a big home. 0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:29.000 You fucking niggas ain't taught me ship because they start 0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:31.359 following the niggas we've got bred. Now you ain't gotta 0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:36.399 have cashier seniority because it's, like I said, it got 0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:38.280 to the point of damn, they turned in the wrestling 0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:40.200 or picking a wrap group being from a hood because 0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:42.279 a lot of most niggas that's acting for niggas didn't 0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:45.359 actually grow up and the motherfucker's their mom has been 0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:48.840 shipped them off and they came back to purposely. But 0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:53.560 I'm gonna leave that alone with y'all because you got 0:46:53.600 --> 0:46:56.680 a lot of cash coming. You can't start a gang 0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:59.840 career in two thousand and nine, two thousand and seven. 0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:04.920 You can't be a full flesh game, remember in two 0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:08.880 thousand and ten, not even in two thousand You know what, 0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:11.480 I'm saying, you're damn they're too late, you know what 0:47:11.560 --> 0:47:15.640 I'm saying. And if you're thirty and it's starting the game, bang, 0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:18.759 you heard too late game? And they and they influenced 0:47:18.800 --> 0:47:22.600 by music more than actual things happening, are distressing the hood. 0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:25.920 And I ain't gonna say no names, but I was like, 0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:28.200 you're a game banker. And the reason why I said 0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:31.000 that to this person is because they had red and 0:47:31.120 --> 0:47:33.920 Burger the hair. You had a pair of pants on 0:47:34.080 --> 0:47:37.480 that had thirty zippers. I didn't grow up like that. 0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:43.400 You you have to identify, and you do not identify 0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:49.080 by wearing a pair them type goddamned and go jeans 0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:53.440 and whatever. You had a lot of people from our generation, parents, 0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:56.240 single mothers that broke their neck to get their child 0:47:56.239 --> 0:47:59.160 out of that situation. But the praise and of the 0:47:59.200 --> 0:48:02.040 whole culture and how fly got through the media, they 0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:05.440 went back down just to That's what they deceived their 0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:08.560 president for keeping the real was when you know, smartest 0:48:08.600 --> 0:48:10.360 really the new gangster nownce a lot of niggas to 0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:15.360 miss the boat. Yeah, we came down parents. No, I 0:48:15.400 --> 0:48:17.360 know what I'm saying. What I'm saying is opportunity was 0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:20.440 given that we didn't have. That was, you know, because 0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:22.560 we're from an era where you're from the hood. You 0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:26.880 from the hood. Wasn't no like on TV put me 0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:29.440 on Chief. That's some fictional ship that a lot of 0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:32.480 motherfuners think the ship was rooted from. And it wasn't. 0:48:32.560 --> 0:48:34.680 This was your community, this was your area, this was 0:48:34.760 --> 0:48:36.880 your hood. You didn't you didn't have to pick. You 0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:40.480 couldn't pick. You know, something's matter on the weekend, they 0:48:40.600 --> 0:48:43.120 hanging even with it. They at house. Then you grew 0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:44.399 up with the nick of your whole life. And when 0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:47.239 you get the high school, damn your blood. Damn I've 0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:48.440 been knowing you have my whole life. Well, you know, 0:48:48.520 --> 0:48:51.320 every summer you always go through his Daddy's. Every summing 0:48:51.320 --> 0:48:54.080 you go to grandma's. Mama got her first little apartment. 0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:56.560 It was over there. And but this is still my knigg. 0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:03.080 It was that becomer. Then you really ate the motherfucking 0:49:03.320 --> 0:49:07.359 The atmosphere changed, and so I think when technology came 0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:09.719 and like I always used that example of you can 0:49:09.800 --> 0:49:12.319 email the hood the motherfucker fist fighting, They're gonna email 0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:14.600 your name back. That's how they do this ship. Now 0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:20.000 it's well, Reggie if you're out there listening. You know 0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:22.280 the thirties and the forties used to have a rivalry. 0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:24.680 Well they were allies and they became rivals and all 0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:28.000 their allies again. And it's been what thirteen years now, 0:49:28.160 --> 0:49:31.120 since two thousand and six and when two thousand nineteen, 0:49:31.200 --> 0:49:35.480 and they haven't understand that there's gonna be a change 0:49:36.320 --> 0:49:38.480 with this truth that that's going on in l A 0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:41.880 right now. There's gonna be a change, whether he like 0:49:42.080 --> 0:49:45.560 it as a black man or not being a black man. 0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:47.879 I think everybody should jump on that board, jump jump 0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:51.200 on it. That's all talk positive about what's going on, 0:49:51.640 --> 0:49:54.920 opposed to trying to knock this truth down before you 0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:57.560 even get off his foot. That's our problem. That's not 0:49:57.719 --> 0:50:00.359 that was crazy said because like when um Nips died 0:50:00.440 --> 0:50:03.000 and everybody talked to bait I called it the day 0:50:03.000 --> 0:50:05.640 of atonement. People just wanted to that day just say look, 0:50:06.120 --> 0:50:09.440 we want to represent this energy. It wasn't a gang troops. 0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:11.400 It wasn't nigga saying we're gonna get along. It was 0:50:11.440 --> 0:50:14.000 nigga saying we're gonna open the dialogue. But you had 0:50:14.040 --> 0:50:16.400 other hoods like this hood don't make no decision for us. 0:50:16.920 --> 0:50:19.399 This hood don't such and such can't say we're gonna 0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:20.840 meet up, but we'll do. So it's a lot of 0:50:21.040 --> 0:50:24.560 different heads gotta sit at that particular gang table. And 0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:26.279 then you got the other niggas that sit at that 0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:28.920 table that's doing it for the bread, you know what 0:50:28.960 --> 0:50:30.879 I'm saying. And then other niggas ain't saying this ship 0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:32.840 ain't nothing really happened, So it'll be like flavor of 0:50:32.920 --> 0:50:35.239 the mud type ship going on. And you got young 0:50:35.360 --> 0:50:37.160 niggas younger than me. They don't know what the funk 0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:39.640 just happened, but they know that it was just shooting 0:50:39.719 --> 0:50:41.960 last week. It was a shooting last night. Nothing really stopped, 0:50:43.000 --> 0:50:45.680 you know. So they take more heads than just niggas 0:50:45.719 --> 0:50:48.040 that won't change at the table. You need the grindballs 0:50:48.080 --> 0:50:52.080 at the table too, you know what I'm saying. Shooting 0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:53.799 they don't never want to talk to the dirt back 0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:55.759 grindball niggers. They always want to talk to some guy 0:50:55.840 --> 0:50:58.680 that they feel talk to them. Niggas in the trenches 0:50:59.080 --> 0:51:01.279 start getting at the start getting that the answs before 0:51:01.280 --> 0:51:03.719 they getting that nigga to the bottom of it. Is 0:51:04.440 --> 0:51:06.440 form of crew to get rid of the ones that 0:51:06.520 --> 0:51:09.880 don't want to listen. That's that's there. Gonna do that 0:51:11.080 --> 0:51:14.360 exactly that that that we do, not the police. I'm 0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:19.040 talking about. Police are rhetoric of discipline and then you're 0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:22.000 then you're good because I mean, that's the dialogue that 0:51:22.080 --> 0:51:23.759 need to be opened up. If you get some cats 0:51:24.160 --> 0:51:26.680 that want to go and funk off the truth that 0:51:26.840 --> 0:51:31.320 that that the East Coast guys guy with me, you know, 0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:34.399 that's something that would do. You know what I'm saying 0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:37.759 that never thought that would if you if you ever 0:51:38.120 --> 0:51:41.799 been over there, man, that it's just a circle. Yeah, 0:51:42.120 --> 0:51:44.799 they gotta live with each other, but you know people 0:51:44.840 --> 0:51:48.520 don't understand. Man, it's time we gotta stop living like that. 0:51:49.600 --> 0:51:52.399 And if we can stop living like that killing each other, 0:51:52.840 --> 0:51:55.399 then our kids and their kids gonna be all right. 0:51:56.200 --> 0:51:59.400 But we gotta bring something to it conversation. And a 0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:01.759 lot of these kid is dying to want to get 0:52:01.800 --> 0:52:04.240 down with each other and hang out and funk around, 0:52:04.320 --> 0:52:10.759 but you know, their motherfucking following suit. Yeah. Yeah, but 0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:13.680 you bring something different to the table. And you know 0:52:14.760 --> 0:52:16.440 it's a cool thing because I said, this is a 0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:19.080 lot of black men out there with money. They got 0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:22.799 money that if you put them all together, you ain't 0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:26.680 spending a million dollars. You know what I'm saying, you're spending. 0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:29.960 I mean, I ain't gonna even get into the numbers. 0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:32.640 But it ain't gonna take a million dollars from each 0:52:32.680 --> 0:52:34.200 one of you. And it ain't gonna take five hundred 0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:37.360 thousand dollars. You know what I'm saying to to to 0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:41.080 get a building, a building big enough, or building building 0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:44.439 big enough, and and a couple of busses to pick 0:52:44.600 --> 0:52:49.279 up and take to school and teach. But we did 0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:52.440 ain't gonna do that. But I guarantee you we get 0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:55.319 mad at the Mesicans, and I'm gonna point blank put 0:52:55.360 --> 0:52:58.040 it out there. We get mad at the Mesicans. They're driving, 0:52:58.120 --> 0:53:01.680 trust oh they're living in that house, they're d deep. 0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:05.200 But you're living in the five bedroom house by yourself 0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:12.399 and struggling. Who's smarter? Who's smarter? Not harder? I'll tell 0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:19.640 you that much. And start selling tacos and everything and 0:53:19.800 --> 0:53:25.319 and get our money. They even they even big water 0:53:25.400 --> 0:53:27.120 men as well. We can't sell them. Come on, man, 0:53:27.160 --> 0:53:30.720 go get to the yellow watermelon. Normally own the nigger slice. 0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:35.800 You know what's gonna damn sure, you're trying to be funny, 0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:40.320 But look at how we live opposed to everybody else. 0:53:40.800 --> 0:53:44.480 And then let's stop hating on how they live in 0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:48.920 and started living similar to that art. Let's figure out 0:53:48.960 --> 0:53:53.080 a way how to live together. And they're opposed to 0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:59.560 My sisters got two kids, got a daughter live with her, 0:54:00.280 --> 0:54:02.920 and she in a four bedroom. My other sister got 0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:06.480 a four bedroom to her and her husband and and 0:54:06.640 --> 0:54:14.320 his daughter. Nobody else, pig, You got three cousins on 0:54:14.440 --> 0:54:17.719 a damn street. That's on them. They're not coming to 0:54:17.840 --> 0:54:23.160 my house. Why if you got a job, you're gonna 0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:28.680 pay for this room you got, You got a year, 0:54:28.840 --> 0:54:31.239 you got eight months. You know what I'm saying. And 0:54:31.320 --> 0:54:33.759 that's how they're doing it. And then they're able to 0:54:33.840 --> 0:54:36.399 move out and get their own ship, and then now 0:54:36.719 --> 0:54:40.000 everything is good at this house. You know what I'm saying. 0:54:40.000 --> 0:54:41.120 I can pay a car, I know that I can 0:54:41.160 --> 0:54:44.839 do this, and that two people paying fifteen hundred the month, 0:54:45.840 --> 0:54:48.880 we can handle that. We can have that, and they 0:54:48.960 --> 0:54:55.520 don't never know what instead of instead of me trying 0:54:55.520 --> 0:54:59.919 to bring you up, you see me stepping on your toe. 0:55:00.440 --> 0:55:02.640 You can't climb the letter if I'm stepping on your toes, 0:55:03.760 --> 0:55:05.920 and we got to change that be a reflection how 0:55:06.040 --> 0:55:08.440 motherfucker feel about theirself when you want to breathe that 0:55:08.600 --> 0:55:14.360 much motherfucking crabbing the bucket mentality. Excuse my language, but 0:55:15.040 --> 0:55:18.360 you know we're talking real right now. You know, you 0:55:18.480 --> 0:55:20.319 got a lot of cats out there that get mad 0:55:20.400 --> 0:55:22.320 over this and get mad over that. But if we 0:55:22.480 --> 0:55:25.839 keeping one hunted, how the hood is, how we got 0:55:26.280 --> 0:55:28.880 some cats don't don't look at the hood like we 0:55:29.040 --> 0:55:33.200 look at the hood, or bang like we bang. Feel me, 0:55:34.280 --> 0:55:36.320 you got a lot of cats to sit there and 0:55:36.520 --> 0:55:39.719 and and just watching who making and pushing the most. 0:55:40.800 --> 0:55:42.560 I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go to the ward and 0:55:42.600 --> 0:55:46.000 I've been robbed his nigger And if I gotta kill us, nigga, 0:55:46.280 --> 0:55:49.799 kill us nigger. And I'm saying each of every last 0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:53.640 one of us, I ain't saying bam. I'm including myself 0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:57.839 with this. Fellas think like that at one point time 0:55:58.480 --> 0:56:02.359 we think like that. We gotta stop thinking like that. Well, 0:56:02.400 --> 0:56:04.439 he still got the younger generation that kind of things 0:56:04.480 --> 0:56:07.960 like that, you know, and we got the challenge of 0:56:09.080 --> 0:56:11.200 I have no problem with talking to people that are 0:56:12.320 --> 0:56:14.960 thirty five and over. We could bring them to the 0:56:15.000 --> 0:56:18.520 table easily from any neighborhoods, from any set. But when 0:56:18.560 --> 0:56:21.040 I'm in these meetings, you can count on one hand 0:56:21.040 --> 0:56:24.040 how many people there are under twenty five years old. 0:56:24.320 --> 0:56:26.360 And those are the ones. That's the thinging you're talking about, 0:56:27.440 --> 0:56:31.560 you know. But I said this months and months ago. 0:56:32.400 --> 0:56:35.560 I see people doing these water challenges as I used 0:56:35.680 --> 0:56:39.040 challenge and all it is. And I said this on 0:56:39.120 --> 0:56:42.279 the show, and we overlooked it. What if each black 0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:46.759 man over thirty five that got a kid, any black 0:56:46.800 --> 0:56:51.000 man that got a kid, video that kid teaching that kid, 0:56:51.560 --> 0:56:54.719 video yourself teaching this kid, and and put it to 0:56:54.800 --> 0:56:57.880 the show, and and and we bring something back for 0:56:58.120 --> 0:57:02.520 this one black man. Every black man teach one child 0:57:02.600 --> 0:57:04.840 could be your cousin and could be your nephew. It 0:57:04.920 --> 0:57:09.239 could be your little brother. Like teaching them with the 0:57:09.280 --> 0:57:12.080 black man suppols, I'm saying, if it's only a quick video, 0:57:12.239 --> 0:57:19.320 we gotta what's gonna be WHI are you telling them 0:57:20.720 --> 0:57:24.880 that we have to stop and and and what how 0:57:25.000 --> 0:57:27.680 important it is to be a black man, especially now 0:57:29.160 --> 0:57:33.200 however the video go, but you're teaching this youngster that 0:57:33.440 --> 0:57:36.160 that that living this way and this way is a 0:57:36.240 --> 0:57:40.200 big difference. It's a big difference. You know what I'm saying. 0:57:40.480 --> 0:57:42.560 You could be step dad. You've got a lot of 0:57:42.640 --> 0:57:46.040 step daddy's out there, better fathers than the real father. 0:57:47.200 --> 0:57:49.120 We got to step up and be fathers to our 0:57:49.240 --> 0:57:55.280 kids if we want to got a chance. I'm trying 0:57:55.360 --> 0:57:59.280 with my nephews right now, man, and it's rough. It's rough. 0:58:00.040 --> 0:58:04.160 So just think you know my sons. I don't want 0:58:04.240 --> 0:58:10.680 my sons to fall victims. So that's what you're doing today, man, Right, well, 0:58:10.720 --> 0:58:12.800 you know that ain't cool driving your car like that. 0:58:12.920 --> 0:58:16.840 It didn't get you know, conversation. It ain't all about money. 0:58:17.760 --> 0:58:20.200 It ain't all about money. It's spend a time, man, 0:58:20.320 --> 0:58:23.920 It's spend a time, quality time. It's more pressure than anything. 0:58:25.120 --> 0:58:29.360 Teaching them. That's what I'm talking about. Each one. Teach one. Also, 0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:31.840 if if you said something earlier, KA though that a 0:58:31.920 --> 0:58:34.800 lot of people are like after o gs. I just 0:58:34.880 --> 0:58:37.040 want to say, if if you have if you're from 0:58:37.080 --> 0:58:40.920 a neighborhood where the o g s don't have no influence, 0:58:40.960 --> 0:58:46.360 then your neighborhood is is in turmoil because a neighborhood 0:58:46.400 --> 0:58:49.840 that has structure listens to the big homies and if 0:58:49.880 --> 0:58:51.919 you ain't listening to the big homies, you ain't listening 0:58:51.920 --> 0:58:54.280 to those guys that have wisdom, that already been on 0:58:54.320 --> 0:58:57.720 the penitential yard for over ten years, then your neighborhood 0:58:57.760 --> 0:59:00.720 is in turmoil. You know you got aren't welcome to 0:59:00.760 --> 0:59:03.000 the table if you If you're in the neighborhood where 0:59:03.080 --> 0:59:05.680 you don't listen to the big homies, a lot of 0:59:05.720 --> 0:59:08.520 the youngsters start just listening. Who got the money? Well, 0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:10.920 a lot of the big homes don't have it like 0:59:11.040 --> 0:59:14.120 that because they did on this penitential time, and and 0:59:14.360 --> 0:59:17.320 and and just the kids don't have to be talking 0:59:17.360 --> 0:59:19.800 to big homies to a trade to get a job. 0:59:20.480 --> 0:59:23.560 But the big homies is at a standpoint because I'm 0:59:23.560 --> 0:59:26.320 not gonna go back to prison for being your answer killer. 0:59:26.960 --> 0:59:29.680 I might have to kill you because some guys ain't. 0:59:29.960 --> 0:59:33.800 It ain't never, so they're gonna you know, I'm trying 0:59:33.840 --> 0:59:36.479 to get you on the load, you know what I'm saying, 0:59:36.560 --> 0:59:39.320 So wash it up with myself in a situation where 0:59:39.640 --> 0:59:41.960 I might have to kill his youngster. But every neighborhood 0:59:42.000 --> 0:59:45.160 has at least multiple big homies. You know, they got 0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:47.439 to come together if they have those issues. Because it's 0:59:47.480 --> 0:59:51.280 just like respecting our elders toned down and we're raised 0:59:51.320 --> 0:59:54.040 with respect our elders. And even in the streets, you 0:59:54.200 --> 0:59:56.360 raised to respect that guy that came before you. Then 0:59:56.400 --> 0:59:59.280 the majority of the big homies got families. I ain't 0:59:59.280 --> 1:00:01.640 gonna break my man. I'm going to the house man, 1:00:01.720 --> 1:00:06.439 My daughter got my son gota that's why I'm gonna Yeah, 1:00:06.480 --> 1:00:08.720 and then little nicks led us, you know, left out 1:00:08.760 --> 1:00:12.160 there in the dirt. But I mean, everybody got to 1:00:12.200 --> 1:00:15.880 find some type of way to approach that situation. Because 1:00:15.880 --> 1:00:18.280 as long as you have knuckle heads, you you you 1:00:18.520 --> 1:00:21.600 your solutions, you can come up with a million. As 1:00:21.680 --> 1:00:24.560 long as you got knuckle heads, they're gonna because they 1:00:24.600 --> 1:00:26.320 look at it like, Okay, you don't went home to 1:00:26.440 --> 1:00:28.160 your house and your family, but I'm out here on 1:00:28.240 --> 1:00:30.320 the bricks and New Niggas just came to last night 1:00:30.360 --> 1:00:32.560 and we just did this, so y'all can't come in 1:00:32.640 --> 1:00:35.320 the morning time. And we've been out all night telling 1:00:35.440 --> 1:00:38.200 us this and that one you know that you know 1:00:38.640 --> 1:00:41.480 it's it's an epidemic, went on to all I'm talking 1:00:41.480 --> 1:00:46.120 about Los Angeles. Ever, everybodyhood went through a metamorphosis. That's 1:00:46.120 --> 1:00:48.040 why you got all these new beefs and these allied 1:00:48.080 --> 1:00:51.840 beefs and these you know, because of Nigga's not on 1:00:51.920 --> 1:00:54.880 the hood history. If you're not getting watched uff you 1:00:55.200 --> 1:00:58.760 got killed. Yeah, and they should be tired. We should 1:00:58.800 --> 1:01:02.520 be tired of that. All right. Let's um, we got 1:01:02.640 --> 1:01:06.440 to talk about this interview that's went viral on the internet. 1:01:06.720 --> 1:01:11.480 It's one of the most discussed interviews right now. Uh, 1:01:11.600 --> 1:01:14.520 it's well over a couple of million views. It was 1:01:14.600 --> 1:01:17.760 posted by a channel called Value Tayment and it is 1:01:17.800 --> 1:01:22.000 an interview of Sammy the Bull Gravano. And for those 1:01:22.080 --> 1:01:24.160 who don't know who Stammon the Bull Gravano is, for 1:01:24.280 --> 1:01:27.840 you youngsters, is he was the underboss of the Gambino 1:01:27.920 --> 1:01:30.760 crime family in New York, one of the five families 1:01:30.800 --> 1:01:33.400 that pretty much run the streets in New York, and 1:01:33.840 --> 1:01:39.400 in he became state's evidence and testified against his boss, 1:01:39.960 --> 1:01:42.800 John Gotti. Now everybody should know these names because there's 1:01:42.800 --> 1:01:47.439 so many rappers that are either Gambino, child Gambino, even 1:01:47.480 --> 1:01:49.680 corrupt uses the name Young Gotti. So you guys know 1:01:49.800 --> 1:01:52.320 these names. Uh. Sammon the Bull was the underboss for 1:01:52.400 --> 1:01:57.240 John Gotti, but he eventually informed on John Gotti, informed 1:01:57.320 --> 1:02:00.520 on the entire Gambino crime family, and even informed members 1:02:01.200 --> 1:02:03.440 um that were another families. I think he informed a 1:02:03.480 --> 1:02:05.880 couple of guys that were in the Genovese family. And 1:02:06.080 --> 1:02:09.560 this guy ended up getting a five year deal, one 1:02:09.600 --> 1:02:13.080 of the sweetest deals ever in the history of the 1:02:13.160 --> 1:02:18.040 American justice system, because he admitted to doing nineteen murders. 1:02:19.080 --> 1:02:22.040 He admitted to more murders than your serial killer. In fact, 1:02:22.440 --> 1:02:24.479 you can say, Sammy the Bull is a serial killer. 1:02:24.840 --> 1:02:27.440 But the federal government gave him a sweet deal let 1:02:27.520 --> 1:02:30.200 him return back to the streets after five years, which 1:02:30.240 --> 1:02:32.080 would have been in nineties seven. I think he got 1:02:32.120 --> 1:02:35.880 out ninety seven, and then he became an ecstasy drug 1:02:36.000 --> 1:02:39.600 distributor out of Arizona, and uh, he ended up catching 1:02:40.680 --> 1:02:42.800 they caught. He caught another case. He did seventeen on 1:02:42.920 --> 1:02:45.360 that and he got out a couple of years ago. 1:02:45.440 --> 1:02:51.160 Gave this incredible interview, and um, he's the biggest informant 1:02:51.160 --> 1:02:56.880 in American history. I listened to the video, and damn, man, 1:02:56.960 --> 1:03:02.440 the man is like keeping in one hunting and and 1:03:02.760 --> 1:03:05.080 you gotta listen to him. You know, all the other 1:03:05.160 --> 1:03:08.480 guys he was speaking on those guys was was talking 1:03:08.560 --> 1:03:12.440 to him and are coming at him in a in 1:03:12.520 --> 1:03:14.840 a bad kind of way. So he was like, that 1:03:15.040 --> 1:03:17.800 what you want me to be a I'm not stupid. 1:03:20.320 --> 1:03:22.720 He explained how he was in school and a lot 1:03:22.800 --> 1:03:26.000 of people thought he just thought he was like just 1:03:26.160 --> 1:03:31.000 a dummy. But man, the dude did all kind of things. Uh, 1:03:31.680 --> 1:03:35.280 his situation doesn't make it right. I mean, only only 1:03:35.400 --> 1:03:39.840 he can say that, I believe, because what what what 1:03:40.400 --> 1:03:49.640 the way he described how umn when John Gotti gotted 1:03:49.760 --> 1:03:53.000 him to tell him, we want you to be the 1:03:53.080 --> 1:03:54.720 bad guy in here. They're gonna come at you and 1:03:54.840 --> 1:03:57.320 make you look like the monster. So I want you 1:03:57.440 --> 1:03:59.440 to go in here and say you a monster with 1:03:59.600 --> 1:04:03.040 it and I'm gonna go home, and you're gonna go 1:04:03.080 --> 1:04:06.680 on and do that time. Come on, man, what man 1:04:06.880 --> 1:04:10.320 stands that tall? It's not a man on this planet 1:04:10.400 --> 1:04:14.800 that stand that tall. I don't care what what what 1:04:15.040 --> 1:04:17.640 family are you in? But other than that, man, I 1:04:18.280 --> 1:04:22.000 see a lot of I mean, we really didn't have 1:04:22.120 --> 1:04:24.520 enough time to just listen to that and then just 1:04:24.720 --> 1:04:28.680 really go into it. So me personally, I can't speak 1:04:28.720 --> 1:04:33.120 on the dude on on his situation, but it was 1:04:33.160 --> 1:04:35.920 an interesting story. Man k what you got to say 1:04:35.920 --> 1:04:38.240 about it? I sat through it, you know what I'm saying, 1:04:38.400 --> 1:04:42.040 checked it out, and I was like, I tripped off, 1:04:42.080 --> 1:04:45.720 like you're about to fire my fucking years? I said, 1:04:45.720 --> 1:04:47.520 what damn things like, well, you know, I said, twenty 1:04:47.560 --> 1:04:50.640 two years in prisons like the seventeen here now I'm 1:04:50.680 --> 1:04:52.640 bigger than ever. I'm wounding then with the mob. They 1:04:52.680 --> 1:04:54.720 don't kill you. You just don't have your friends no more. 1:04:55.600 --> 1:04:57.640 I'm like, this ain't nothing like they say in the movies, 1:04:58.160 --> 1:05:00.600 you know what I'm saying, But on some real ship, Um, 1:05:01.440 --> 1:05:04.040 I'm I'm I'm I'm with my man right here, Like 1:05:04.200 --> 1:05:08.680 who stands that talk? Who you gonna say, Hey, I'm 1:05:08.680 --> 1:05:12.560 about to go home, run all this time and throw 1:05:13.120 --> 1:05:15.680 wet phody on your bucks. You're gonna be a hero. 1:05:15.880 --> 1:05:19.040 The family's gonna love you. We out Hold up on me, 1:05:20.440 --> 1:05:22.920 Hold up player, I'm gonna run for what I ran with? 1:05:23.080 --> 1:05:25.720 But what about what you was running with? And that's 1:05:25.760 --> 1:05:27.880 a and that's the that's the niggle get his hands 1:05:27.960 --> 1:05:31.200 dirty on the lower level. That's the classic case of 1:05:31.280 --> 1:05:33.000 what the ship is going on now? But now they 1:05:33.080 --> 1:05:35.960 getting Now they're getting their little conversation for the information, 1:05:36.040 --> 1:05:37.680 so it's a little easier. But a lot of the 1:05:37.760 --> 1:05:41.000 case that they built was, you know, John Gotti used 1:05:41.000 --> 1:05:43.560 to run his mouthful lot, so they put their put 1:05:43.640 --> 1:05:46.880 the fancial No, they used to put wire taps in 1:05:47.200 --> 1:05:49.720 like different places. They used to talk, so they got 1:05:49.800 --> 1:05:53.120 him on audio talking ship, you know, but none of 1:05:53.200 --> 1:05:55.320 it was not to the police. No, no, no, I'm 1:05:55.320 --> 1:05:58.720 talking about what was any of the ship about Sammy? Though, Yeah, 1:05:58.840 --> 1:06:01.480 he used to talk down on Sammy, he's to talk. 1:06:01.640 --> 1:06:04.040 He got to hold him so so that the fans 1:06:04.120 --> 1:06:06.280 played them tapes also the sam and say, look, this 1:06:06.400 --> 1:06:09.040 is what your boss thinks of you, and he's listening 1:06:09.080 --> 1:06:11.360 to it. This is before he decided to rat. And 1:06:11.600 --> 1:06:13.080 initially he just said I don't want to hear none 1:06:13.080 --> 1:06:15.600 of that. But then eventually the fans was able to 1:06:15.680 --> 1:06:20.560 just got to him. Come on, human being. But I mean, 1:06:20.640 --> 1:06:25.120 you know, out of ninth Chaine, how many of you, 1:06:25.240 --> 1:06:27.840 how many him that you did that? How many times 1:06:27.920 --> 1:06:30.120 you pull the trigger out of ninth chain? That ain't 1:06:30.120 --> 1:06:34.880 important important, but this is what it was consistent. If 1:06:34.960 --> 1:06:37.880 you and you're going to drive by with me, we 1:06:38.040 --> 1:06:44.160 all run. We we the same rules. But the way 1:06:44.360 --> 1:06:49.800 they lived compared to us, it's totally different. They made money, 1:06:51.000 --> 1:06:54.200 that's all of it's about. It's all about money, about nothing. 1:06:54.520 --> 1:06:59.040 But he can honestly say he was a gangster and 1:06:59.160 --> 1:07:04.680 he was uh what you call a racketeer, a businessman, businessman. 1:07:05.240 --> 1:07:08.200 By me being a games I'm one hundred with it, 1:07:08.480 --> 1:07:10.720 but I'm still making them. I'm making money on the 1:07:10.800 --> 1:07:12.520 same time. And it's that's the way it really is 1:07:12.560 --> 1:07:14.600 out here in the streets. You know, there's that guy 1:07:14.680 --> 1:07:17.000 that can bang. He he bangs, but then there's another 1:07:17.080 --> 1:07:20.240 guy he hus you know. But every once in a 1:07:20.280 --> 1:07:22.760 while you find that guy that could do both right. 1:07:23.360 --> 1:07:26.560 But that's hard because you're usually when you're growing up, 1:07:26.600 --> 1:07:28.680 you gotta pick one. What you wanna do you want 1:07:28.720 --> 1:07:30.600 to make money or game bag? Because you got gangsters 1:07:30.640 --> 1:07:33.960 out there and started off. You ain't hid just selling 1:07:34.080 --> 1:07:37.760 marijuana and still got money. You know, that's with the business. 1:07:37.840 --> 1:07:40.400 Don't need to call him homies to come and go bam. 1:07:40.520 --> 1:07:42.160 You know what I'm saying. You've got guys out there 1:07:42.240 --> 1:07:46.080 like that. But the way he explained it is is 1:07:47.280 --> 1:07:50.040 all of this is ours. We all call this case. 1:07:50.880 --> 1:07:54.560 It ain't just mine. So nineteen might be only form's 1:07:54.680 --> 1:07:58.080 just here in my hand. So, I mean, but you 1:07:58.120 --> 1:08:01.640 could actually look those nineteen murders up um piece by piece, 1:08:01.760 --> 1:08:04.600 And because he eventually had to tell the fans everything, 1:08:04.640 --> 1:08:06.240 he didn't want to talk about it in the interview, 1:08:06.600 --> 1:08:10.640 but you could look it up each one. What his 1:08:10.800 --> 1:08:14.360 role was in all those nineteen murders. Uh, the ones 1:08:14.560 --> 1:08:16.880 early in his career he pulled the trigger on. His 1:08:17.000 --> 1:08:20.720 first murder was nineteen seventy. The last ones were in 1:08:20.760 --> 1:08:22.519 the late eighties, so he was part of the hit 1:08:22.560 --> 1:08:27.080 against Paul Costallano when they killed the boss, the then 1:08:27.160 --> 1:08:29.599 boss of the family. So I ain't know nothing now, 1:08:30.240 --> 1:08:32.559 I don't even get it that deep intew it. Yeah, 1:08:34.240 --> 1:08:37.240 we don't know. I mean we're like, like, like you're 1:08:37.240 --> 1:08:40.280 saying that video, we're still on the outside looking in. 1:08:41.080 --> 1:08:44.679 Those dudes. Their life totally different, and more people would 1:08:44.760 --> 1:08:49.560 kill but sisterly ship than than our ship, you know 1:08:49.600 --> 1:08:51.120 what I'm saying. But a lot of times they would 1:08:51.120 --> 1:08:54.360 wax somebody because of a rumor or belief, like the 1:08:54.479 --> 1:08:59.160 same way you know, look at to mess with the 1:08:59.240 --> 1:09:03.080 white Yeah you went back and just just fucking lines. 1:09:03.640 --> 1:09:07.080 But I mean, man, they rules them or they have rules. 1:09:07.200 --> 1:09:10.040 We don't now. One of the things that stood out 1:09:10.080 --> 1:09:12.559 to me in the interview is he said that today's 1:09:12.600 --> 1:09:18.479 Cossa Nostra mafia it's less violent. There's less murders because 1:09:18.840 --> 1:09:21.519 there's too much FBI investigations of all of these guys 1:09:22.479 --> 1:09:24.479 all the way down to two and three. Yeah. So, 1:09:25.320 --> 1:09:28.439 and that's the way the streets gotta get. You don't 1:09:28.479 --> 1:09:30.599 need a whole lot of senseless violence if you out 1:09:30.600 --> 1:09:32.920 in the streets trying to make money, hustle, do whatever 1:09:32.960 --> 1:09:36.559 you're trying to do. See, the only thing I can 1:09:36.640 --> 1:09:41.439 say about that is money talks. They still conducting business 1:09:41.560 --> 1:09:44.519 such as they did all these murders with the FBI 1:09:45.160 --> 1:09:50.840 up they wrecked them dtifteen on each family. You know 1:09:50.920 --> 1:09:54.000 how many FBI agentes that is to go bam to 1:09:54.160 --> 1:09:57.760 look into these ship they cross the notes and everything else. 1:09:59.680 --> 1:10:04.400 How many FBI agents we're getting paid to turn the head, 1:10:04.520 --> 1:10:11.640 to turn their head, to lose the brows. They're not 1:10:11.760 --> 1:10:15.880 living like and then their game is corporate. Now they 1:10:16.000 --> 1:10:18.559 got covers man, not the little boat day on the corner, 1:10:18.640 --> 1:10:21.880 no more. They got you know, they actually did, they 1:10:21.920 --> 1:10:24.840 got going on. They ain't ain't ain't ain't just the 1:10:24.920 --> 1:10:27.920 motherfucking store down the street in the restaurant, and we're 1:10:27.960 --> 1:10:30.920 shaking them down. They're shaking down corporate a million dollar companies. Now, 1:10:31.439 --> 1:10:34.200 wasn't the mother ship? They actually did indicte an FBI 1:10:34.320 --> 1:10:39.120 agent that helped uh guys in the mafia commit murders, 1:10:40.680 --> 1:10:42.920 Robert Connolly, He ended up getting a life sense and 1:10:43.240 --> 1:10:45.240 he was the FBI agent out of Boston. I believe 1:10:45.280 --> 1:10:48.080 his name is Robert Connolly. We'll double check that. Um, 1:10:48.320 --> 1:10:51.680 the town, huh the town? The town, you know, you 1:10:51.720 --> 1:10:55.280 know the town. What's what's your I want to know 1:10:55.360 --> 1:10:59.479 what you guys feel about the FBI, the federal government 1:11:00.280 --> 1:11:03.080 allowing a guy like Samon the Bull Gravano, who admitted 1:11:03.120 --> 1:11:06.760 to nineteen murders to be free again because in in 1:11:06.920 --> 1:11:09.479 the in our world, you'll never see the face of 1:11:09.560 --> 1:11:13.679 freedom again. But and and that's the difference. They don't care. 1:11:14.360 --> 1:11:17.600 Look at me the world. I would let you go. 1:11:18.120 --> 1:11:22.479 If you can give me fourteen of you, I'd rather 1:11:22.560 --> 1:11:26.720 get the fourteen of you. And you're going about your business, don't. 1:11:26.880 --> 1:11:30.240 I mean, that's just how the police were, the hun police, 1:11:30.400 --> 1:11:34.720 No you killed, that's not doing their job. Letting the 1:11:34.760 --> 1:11:38.720 murderer go if you chell on him, because he's the 1:11:38.800 --> 1:11:41.400 one we want, I will let you go. All you 1:11:41.439 --> 1:11:44.439 would do lesser time and do a year and going 1:11:44.479 --> 1:11:46.360 about your business and what you know is what we 1:11:46.439 --> 1:11:51.439 can prove. We don't care if you Is that fair? 1:11:51.600 --> 1:11:54.200 All the guys that sitting on death road with life? No, 1:11:54.360 --> 1:11:57.280 that's that's what I think. The government is so dirty 1:11:57.960 --> 1:12:01.880 for allowing sam and the ball out after five years? 1:12:02.000 --> 1:12:04.320 More more Sammys. And then what did do after he 1:12:04.479 --> 1:12:06.760 don't get that sweet deal? After he did those five years? 1:12:07.080 --> 1:12:09.080 What did he end up doing after that? Ka though? 1:12:09.720 --> 1:12:12.479 When he got out, you end up doing some more 1:12:12.560 --> 1:12:15.360 times he wouldn't He moved to Arizona. Oh when he 1:12:15.640 --> 1:12:21.120 got that lived in Arizona at that time in ninety 1:12:21.400 --> 1:12:24.040 nine seven, and that was around the time, you know, 1:12:24.360 --> 1:12:27.160 music and ship, so that particular item that he had 1:12:27.280 --> 1:12:29.639 was hot on the entertainment market, you know what I'm saying. 1:12:29.760 --> 1:12:32.200 You know that ship flooded after everything broke loose, though, 1:12:32.240 --> 1:12:35.760 and that's when his South Central real cold with no 1:12:35.880 --> 1:12:39.800 five dollars either for that ship. And you're talking about 1:12:40.000 --> 1:12:50.000 you're talking about the distributed. So he became the biggest 1:12:50.720 --> 1:12:54.160 He became the biggest ecstasy distributor. After the Feds let 1:12:54.240 --> 1:12:56.679 him out after doing five years, we're gonna do your solid. 1:12:57.000 --> 1:13:00.880 So basically the federal government became part of drug dealing 1:13:01.040 --> 1:13:06.040 like they're doing with the system. He got out and 1:13:06.360 --> 1:13:12.320 did him. I mean, I'm a natural, right because I 1:13:12.400 --> 1:13:14.960 got something else I need to do. But look at it, 1:13:19.680 --> 1:13:24.439 got a podcasting straight after twenty three years in prison. 1:13:24.600 --> 1:13:29.320 But damn, I mean you can change. Yeah. Now, did 1:13:29.360 --> 1:13:33.240 you hear the part about the Don King story where 1:13:33.520 --> 1:13:36.320 they were trying to get into boxing and John Gotti 1:13:36.439 --> 1:13:39.560 told Sammy, UM will tell Don King to do this 1:13:39.680 --> 1:13:42.519 deal so we can get some boxing go by trained 1:13:42.560 --> 1:13:46.320 by Um Freddy Um, not necessarily training, but trying to 1:13:46.360 --> 1:13:47.840 get a deal. What they wanted to do is bring 1:13:47.920 --> 1:13:51.680 this Italian fighter from Italy who was undefeated to fight 1:13:51.800 --> 1:13:55.040 Mike Tyson. He was gonna come fight Ray Mercer and 1:13:55.160 --> 1:13:57.240 then after he beat Ray Mercer was gonna fight Mike 1:13:57.320 --> 1:14:00.320 Tyson for a big purse. So John Gotti told had me, 1:14:00.439 --> 1:14:02.880 you know, go talk to Don King about it. So 1:14:03.000 --> 1:14:05.600 Sammy sends his other dude from the family to go 1:14:05.720 --> 1:14:07.840 talk about it, and Don King says, no, I don't 1:14:07.840 --> 1:14:10.360 want nothing to do with that. So the guy tells 1:14:10.400 --> 1:14:13.640 Sammy he said no, So Sammy tells John don King 1:14:13.720 --> 1:14:18.360 said no, So John Gotti said, kill Don King. Then 1:14:19.280 --> 1:14:22.240 so he ordered a hit on Don King for Sammy 1:14:22.280 --> 1:14:25.680 to to to fill. So Sammy sends the guy to 1:14:25.760 --> 1:14:28.800 go kill Don King and the dude end up running off. 1:14:28.840 --> 1:14:31.360 He said no, I'm not killing Don King and he disappeared, 1:14:31.400 --> 1:14:34.000 And so he told the whole crazy story about John 1:14:34.080 --> 1:14:40.519 Gotti wanting Don King killed. But darn King, well he 1:14:40.640 --> 1:14:42.639 that's what he said. He said that, Um he said. 1:14:42.720 --> 1:14:45.639 Don King said, Look, he's from Cleveland, he knows people, 1:14:46.000 --> 1:14:47.599 he did time. He don't want to do the deal. 1:14:47.720 --> 1:14:49.720 He's telling John Gotti, you don't want to do the deal. 1:14:50.000 --> 1:14:51.720 You can't make this man do the deal if you 1:14:51.760 --> 1:14:53.400 don't want to do the deal. And John said, you 1:14:53.439 --> 1:14:54.519 know what, if you don't want to do the deal, 1:14:54.840 --> 1:14:57.000 kill him. That's all that John didn't want to hear 1:14:57.000 --> 1:14:59.640 nothing about he did time before, and he's connected to 1:14:59.680 --> 1:15:02.960 the did the Cleveland. He just said kill him. And 1:15:03.080 --> 1:15:05.800 that was the way John Gardy was. You know, so 1:15:05.880 --> 1:15:10.120 I thought that was crazy story. That was a crazy 1:15:10.200 --> 1:15:17.320 story about about Don King almost getting killed by the 1:15:17.400 --> 1:15:23.360 Gambino crime family. Um, let's see what else we got here. Um, 1:15:26.000 --> 1:15:30.400 he told a crazy Teddy Atlas story. Another boxing story. Oh, 1:15:30.560 --> 1:15:34.120 here's this is funny. He told the story about converting 1:15:34.360 --> 1:15:38.400 to a Native He converted to a Native American religion 1:15:38.640 --> 1:15:40.840 so he can smoke. I guess they banned cigarettes and 1:15:40.880 --> 1:15:43.280 the fairs at this time, so the only people that 1:15:43.360 --> 1:15:45.720 were allowed to smoke were people that had religious and 1:15:45.760 --> 1:15:51.040 spiritual reasons. So Samitable converts to the Native American religion 1:15:51.439 --> 1:15:55.840 so he can smoke for those five years. I don't 1:15:55.840 --> 1:15:59.560 blame me, but I mean everything they take from you, 1:16:00.040 --> 1:16:03.000 you find a way to get it back. That's just jail. 1:16:03.040 --> 1:16:06.320 I was living, all right. So, um, we got another 1:16:06.400 --> 1:16:09.679 question here. This is for you, James. We actually talked 1:16:09.680 --> 1:16:12.639 about this on a previous episode, but this is from 1:16:13.640 --> 1:16:18.080 MS on the LOWTHO on Instagram. What was the story 1:16:18.160 --> 1:16:22.479 behind the Bounty Hunter hunters having Shug surrounded at in 1:16:22.520 --> 1:16:24.960 the Nicholson Garden housing projects during the o F TV 1:16:25.680 --> 1:16:28.559 video shoot. I think that that was the video for cracking. 1:16:29.040 --> 1:16:32.800 Yeah yeah, well only only he wasn't surrounded. It was 1:16:32.960 --> 1:16:37.080 two people that came to get that shipped. Um, and 1:16:37.200 --> 1:16:45.080 one of those guys is no longer decea um shug 1:16:45.160 --> 1:16:47.360 got dealers with a little bit of everybody. But these 1:16:47.400 --> 1:16:51.360 two particular cats were, you know, like really on their ship, 1:16:52.000 --> 1:16:56.639 and uh, we were standing there, Me and the homie 1:16:56.640 --> 1:17:00.080 Wall were standing there when they approached him and and 1:17:00.360 --> 1:17:02.360 and we wouldn't gonna let it go down at first 1:17:02.400 --> 1:17:04.439 because they wanted to go in our bathroom and holler. 1:17:04.920 --> 1:17:09.000 So Show was like looking like, what should I do? 1:17:09.760 --> 1:17:12.920 You ain't going in there? And I got at the 1:17:12.960 --> 1:17:15.360 home and was like, oh man, y'all ain't gonna do 1:17:15.479 --> 1:17:18.560 him like that in here, and uh He's like, no, no, 1:17:18.760 --> 1:17:21.040 I mean it's we but we got a holida him. 1:17:21.040 --> 1:17:23.439 You already know the deal, so I already knew what 1:17:23.600 --> 1:17:27.759 was having And she looked at me. I looked at Walter. 1:17:29.160 --> 1:17:31.320 He looked at them. He said, I'm good, I'm good. 1:17:31.360 --> 1:17:34.519 Just wait right here. He went in there. They had 1:17:34.600 --> 1:17:37.880 they talked it, they think, and came out and after 1:17:37.960 --> 1:17:42.040 that we were left the video shoot. Was it a 1:17:42.120 --> 1:17:44.160 little bit of bullying going on with the two dudes 1:17:44.160 --> 1:17:48.679 from Bounty hunting on somewhere? Yeah, yeah, that that's that's 1:17:48.880 --> 1:17:51.679 that was their intent. But there was no no hands 1:17:51.800 --> 1:17:55.160 was put on that. Okay, no no, no, no, no, 1:17:55.280 --> 1:18:00.639 no no no no. Even though uh at that time, 1:18:01.000 --> 1:18:04.680 no and and and and those guys was like one 1:18:04.720 --> 1:18:08.720 hunter with me. I've been knowing, uh, what's the name 1:18:08.760 --> 1:18:12.200 for a long time. I don't think we couldn't let 1:18:12.280 --> 1:18:15.439 that happen. And this is before Reggie Wright had Right 1:18:15.479 --> 1:18:18.479 Way Security. This is pre Reggie. This is pre right 1:18:18.520 --> 1:18:21.880 Way security. It was like ninety three or something. Yeah, 1:18:22.560 --> 1:18:25.000 hey man, let me tell you. They had twelve year olds, 1:18:25.720 --> 1:18:28.040 little a little youngsters. All of them had a strap. 1:18:30.280 --> 1:18:34.160 They was ready. You don't want to go into project. Now. 1:18:34.200 --> 1:18:37.240 How deep were the pirus um during that video shoot? 1:18:38.400 --> 1:18:41.720 Because you look at thee enough there was about a 1:18:41.800 --> 1:18:44.200 hundred bounty hunters in that video. It was a little 1:18:44.200 --> 1:18:47.120 more than that there. But we were we were we was, 1:18:47.360 --> 1:18:50.680 we was pretty deep. And and you know, it's just 1:18:50.760 --> 1:18:53.520 sad to say, you know, going to different blood neighborhoods 1:18:53.560 --> 1:18:56.120 where you're from, you you were blood. We associate, we're 1:18:56.120 --> 1:18:59.720 supposed to. But the tension that was there because of 1:19:00.920 --> 1:19:04.360 his dinner shook dinners with them, and what they purposed 1:19:04.520 --> 1:19:10.400 was kind of like pretension on so every we all 1:19:10.479 --> 1:19:13.280 knew that what was going on. This ain't the first 1:19:13.320 --> 1:19:16.160 time this happened, so we already knew the situation. But 1:19:16.760 --> 1:19:20.799 once they talked, just being uncomfortable. One of the homeboys 1:19:20.960 --> 1:19:24.479 was drinking a photy and one of these little cats 1:19:24.600 --> 1:19:26.920 came look, little Barnie. How the dude came up and said, 1:19:27.520 --> 1:19:29.479 can I hit that blood? And he let him hit it? 1:19:30.080 --> 1:19:32.120 And he just turned around and walked away with the 1:19:32.200 --> 1:19:35.400 damn here with with the phony, right, So I'm liken, 1:19:35.640 --> 1:19:38.000 go get your phonty back now he can have that 1:19:38.120 --> 1:19:42.479 mother were they were strapped and ready, which we were too, 1:19:43.120 --> 1:19:45.200 but a lot of people would have got hurt if 1:19:45.240 --> 1:19:47.639 that would have went bad that day. But it turned 1:19:47.680 --> 1:19:53.000 out good. And as the shire conversation he had of 1:19:53.080 --> 1:19:57.639 his business with them, Uh, that's all I gotta say. 1:19:57.680 --> 1:20:00.840 And all that was was just a push for getting 1:20:01.520 --> 1:20:05.479 another check. I guess, Uh it was more no no, no, no, no, 1:20:06.800 --> 1:20:08.360 it was. It was more to it than that. But 1:20:09.320 --> 1:20:16.439 but I mean that's something what's going But um should 1:20:16.479 --> 1:20:20.920 had his hands in a lot of things that wouldn't 1:20:20.920 --> 1:20:24.040 always music exactly, and and and things that he should 1:20:24.080 --> 1:20:26.840 have took care of, you know what I'm saying. But 1:20:27.000 --> 1:20:29.280 other than that, I mean, he had to back up 1:20:29.479 --> 1:20:31.439 with there with him. If he didn't want to go 1:20:31.520 --> 1:20:35.160 in that bathroom, that's where everything would have started. And 1:20:35.240 --> 1:20:36.760 if he just said no, I ain't going to no 1:20:36.920 --> 1:20:41.320 bathroom with y'all, that's where we did. We did, it 1:20:41.360 --> 1:20:44.559 would have been on right then and there. All right, Kato, 1:20:45.520 --> 1:20:48.280 you on't smoke a lot radio, but you just started, 1:20:48.439 --> 1:20:53.680 uh tapping. You don't really get to talk about that long. 1:20:54.240 --> 1:20:56.880 Let's talk about that. How did that come about? Young? 1:20:56.960 --> 1:21:00.920 Gave me action that uh digital salt box good looking, 1:21:01.160 --> 1:21:02.720 you know what I'm saying. They gave me action at 1:21:02.880 --> 1:21:06.240 my own um, my own platform to push my line 1:21:06.320 --> 1:21:08.680 my way. So you know, I just chose tapping in 1:21:08.760 --> 1:21:10.800 with Kato because I tap in a different thing from 1:21:10.920 --> 1:21:15.559 political side and music side, street side. I kinda kind 1:21:15.600 --> 1:21:17.880 of like the MTV field I come to you, you 1:21:17.960 --> 1:21:19.920 know what I said. I got the Eastwood episode up there. 1:21:20.040 --> 1:21:23.679 We premiered the Nipsey Hustle Masterpiece song on there, which 1:21:23.720 --> 1:21:26.760 ain't drop chet that's dropping on his new project Problem Child. 1:21:27.439 --> 1:21:31.280 And I also interviewed Mayor elect from Pasadeena Major williams 1:21:32.160 --> 1:21:35.679 Um just to show my range in this podcast game. 1:21:35.720 --> 1:21:37.680 And I can sit down and talk to somebody from 1:21:37.720 --> 1:21:39.479 the loves of the dogs of the street to a 1:21:39.520 --> 1:21:42.519 political person, you know. And I'm just showing us a 1:21:42.600 --> 1:21:46.160 different ship to tap in other than dancing catching the ball, 1:21:46.720 --> 1:21:48.439 you know what I'm saying. I'm just you know, coming 1:21:48.479 --> 1:21:52.240 from Repio set dbd C banging. So a lot of 1:21:52.320 --> 1:21:54.720 niggas known me from that and they can see my 1:21:54.840 --> 1:21:57.599 growth on a whole another level. So tapping in as 1:21:57.640 --> 1:22:00.280 me just showing my range on this podcast game them know, 1:22:01.200 --> 1:22:03.960 pay close attention to take me serious because everything ain't 1:22:04.160 --> 1:22:06.720 pooping and giggling on this one. But we're having fun too. 1:22:06.800 --> 1:22:09.320 But it's just you know, my time to run one. 1:22:09.520 --> 1:22:12.200 Now you have a song on that uh Reppio set? 1:22:12.240 --> 1:22:13.599 When did that come out? Like? That came O oh 1:22:13.720 --> 1:22:17.560 six oh six under Reportable Records and Universal dropped it 1:22:18.320 --> 1:22:20.599 at all of h a double CD with a lot 1:22:20.640 --> 1:22:25.200 of dimos and crips on there. From Compton, Los Angeles. 1:22:25.400 --> 1:22:27.640 We do on Eat West Side Gang really, you know 1:22:27.680 --> 1:22:30.800 what I'm saying, and uh, you know we mean my 1:22:30.880 --> 1:22:34.040 boy Jackie Boy and baby Boat rock that ship I 1:22:34.160 --> 1:22:36.280 hate the hook down and a big chuck and then 1:22:36.360 --> 1:22:39.280 produced the whole album. So it came out. You know 1:22:39.320 --> 1:22:42.639 what I'm saying, I'm looking to see it on Netflix 1:22:42.680 --> 1:22:44.960 and something a minute, how to how media is going down? 1:22:45.080 --> 1:22:46.880 So I give me a check beat. Here's somebody need 1:22:46.960 --> 1:22:48.760 to play. But it's a lot of niggas that was 1:22:48.840 --> 1:22:51.639 really reportables from their neighborhood made music. But the whole 1:22:51.800 --> 1:22:54.439 one rule what you couldn't diss. So it wasn't like 1:22:54.640 --> 1:22:57.160 when banging on wax. So when my homies made True Blue, 1:22:57.760 --> 1:23:01.759 where you dissed just to run that, but you couldn't 1:23:01.800 --> 1:23:06.320 dis another hood when you when you wrap when you're 1:23:06.320 --> 1:23:08.600 from a neighborhood and no need to this. When I 1:23:08.680 --> 1:23:11.719 do my interviews for Street TV, I always get somebody 1:23:11.840 --> 1:23:14.160 you know that they start to fall back into their 1:23:14.200 --> 1:23:17.600 element and they start saying, um, yeah them crabs or 1:23:18.840 --> 1:23:23.200 I say cut you say that without distance. It's a 1:23:23.200 --> 1:23:25.519 trip about this project because when this project came out 1:23:25.560 --> 1:23:28.080 and came out on national basis, and to put a 1:23:28.120 --> 1:23:30.719 lot of targets on nigga's backs, because when on social 1:23:30.800 --> 1:23:33.760 media like that, before the ship dropped, most of the 1:23:33.800 --> 1:23:36.599 niggas on these albums is dead. You know what I'm saying. 1:23:36.640 --> 1:23:39.599 I know when that album dropped a couple of niggs 1:23:39.600 --> 1:23:43.080 from Kelly park got killed even the set or the banging. 1:23:44.280 --> 1:23:46.400 I was younger for banging on Wapio set and a 1:23:46.400 --> 1:23:50.040 couple of niggs got violated pos looking at the motherfucking DVD, 1:23:50.160 --> 1:23:52.800 they see niggas with choppers, and then niggas like, oh 1:23:53.400 --> 1:23:55.559 we have some nigga switched hoods. It was a lot 1:23:55.640 --> 1:23:57.719 went down, And at that time, when that album dropped, 1:23:57.720 --> 1:24:00.280 I was pursuing my music on a regular ship. So 1:24:00.400 --> 1:24:02.920 I'm I'm known now you know what I'm saying. Before 1:24:02.960 --> 1:24:05.320 you know, like I said, everybody knew easy to be 1:24:05.400 --> 1:24:06.960 with some content, but you didn't hear nothing. I mean, 1:24:07.360 --> 1:24:10.160 Kelly Parker here in this music. So so how do 1:24:10.280 --> 1:24:14.200 your homies look at you? I mean, well, what's crazy? 1:24:14.200 --> 1:24:16.400 Because I got asked to do the song a couple 1:24:16.439 --> 1:24:18.800 of times. I said no because I didn't want to 1:24:18.840 --> 1:24:20.400 make no song like that, because I knew what was 1:24:20.439 --> 1:24:22.639 coming with it, because I already was digging in early 1:24:22.800 --> 1:24:25.800 in the nineties, so I knew to play. But I 1:24:25.920 --> 1:24:27.800 had another homie ain't gonna say his name, but he 1:24:28.080 --> 1:24:30.160 got at me. He was like, look, man, just you 1:24:30.400 --> 1:24:32.320 this platform to blow your own ship up. But at 1:24:32.360 --> 1:24:34.400 the same time, we want this ship right. We won't 1:24:34.600 --> 1:24:38.120 a real homie, real homies, you know what I'm saying 1:24:38.200 --> 1:24:42.360 on there, that's gonna represent us right. And so my 1:24:42.600 --> 1:24:45.280 idea when I got with the homie j d Um 1:24:45.360 --> 1:24:48.000 Bowl was, let's make that motherfucker sound fun like an 1:24:48.040 --> 1:24:50.000 anthem for us. Let's let's be the only ones that 1:24:50.000 --> 1:24:51.640 act like we like being from our other. Because you 1:24:51.680 --> 1:24:53.680 listen to a lot of niggas music on there, it's like, well, 1:24:54.080 --> 1:24:56.200 we're gonna through this. So we chose to make our 1:24:56.240 --> 1:24:59.320 ship because our you know, we we loved ones, were 1:24:59.360 --> 1:25:01.759 sunk around. We we have blue tie affairs, we party, 1:25:01.800 --> 1:25:04.040 we rocked. We ain't never buin us on the street ship, 1:25:04.120 --> 1:25:09.240 but homies, homiesme, real homies love each other. We funck around, 1:25:09.280 --> 1:25:11.560 we loved one. So that song was wasn't hard to 1:25:11.640 --> 1:25:13.840 make because it came from the heart from all of 1:25:13.960 --> 1:25:16.599 m j B the Bowl, Free Baby Bow with Ah. 1:25:17.360 --> 1:25:20.479 My job was to make that motherfucker sound connected, tight 1:25:20.560 --> 1:25:23.040 and right, you know what I'm saying. And we're gonna 1:25:23.080 --> 1:25:24.760 stamp that ship all way and do it all way. 1:25:24.800 --> 1:25:27.559 And I haven't been in liquor stores slipping in different 1:25:27.600 --> 1:25:30.920 hoods and blood niggas and goted me like one nigga 1:25:30.960 --> 1:25:33.400 pulled up. I'm over there by the old stand over 1:25:33.439 --> 1:25:35.160 the Englewood and they got about of the store trying 1:25:35.160 --> 1:25:36.960 to grab me a little podkast. A couple of blunts. 1:25:37.400 --> 1:25:40.639 Niggas pulled up bumping that ship hopped out the car. 1:25:41.560 --> 1:25:43.120 Nig we listened to that ship right now, you're the 1:25:43.200 --> 1:25:46.400 nigga from the rep. Y'all said so, I depending on 1:25:46.479 --> 1:25:48.800 how certain niggas had with their candle when that ship dropped, 1:25:48.920 --> 1:25:50.559 I gained a lot of respect out of that ship, 1:25:51.080 --> 1:25:53.880 you know what I'm saying, because me and my niggas 1:25:53.920 --> 1:25:55.400 was real about it. A lot of it was good 1:25:55.479 --> 1:25:57.920 music from some hoods, something like west Side Paroules had 1:25:57.920 --> 1:26:00.120 a banger, The Nutty Blocks had a banger, like the 1:26:00.200 --> 1:26:02.519 niggas ask some hard ass ship. Now. That was the 1:26:02.600 --> 1:26:04.960 CD and a d double CD and DVD. You know 1:26:04.960 --> 1:26:07.479 what I'm saying. We didn't have no damn footage in 1:26:07.520 --> 1:26:10.320 our hood because a lot of niggas had the footage 1:26:10.320 --> 1:26:11.960 in their hood. We was gonna throw a big gas 1:26:12.120 --> 1:26:15.120 baseball game with the Home Home Girls versus the Folk 1:26:15.160 --> 1:26:17.599 Tray Home Girls, and that was gonna be our footage 1:26:17.640 --> 1:26:19.679 and we was gonna show the dopeness the fun ship, 1:26:20.200 --> 1:26:24.439 but the cameras niggas booked. Then I guess they went 1:26:24.479 --> 1:26:26.280 to another hood to get some footage and they got 1:26:26.320 --> 1:26:30.000 booked for their cameras, so we didn't get we didn't 1:26:30.000 --> 1:26:32.160 get a chance to push our line. But we had 1:26:32.240 --> 1:26:35.000 a whole event, barbecue and everything setting for our ship. 1:26:35.080 --> 1:26:37.040 Our ship was gonna be liquor. You know, we west 1:26:37.080 --> 1:26:38.840 Side Roller was rich rolling, so it was on some 1:26:38.920 --> 1:26:42.840 fun ship, fresh ship with it. So you know, if 1:26:42.840 --> 1:26:44.320 I could take it all back, I'll still do that, 1:26:44.439 --> 1:26:48.800 motherfucker because we represented right alright. So where can people 1:26:48.880 --> 1:26:52.519 find your tap in with Cato show? Right here with 1:26:52.680 --> 1:26:56.639 y'all man, I'm on digital, so you get some Spotify, 1:26:56.880 --> 1:27:00.200 Google brother, you know, said radio dot Com brother. She's 1:27:00.200 --> 1:27:02.240 gonna do when the tap in comes down on you 1:27:02.439 --> 1:27:04.920 man on my movel, you know what I'm saying. And 1:27:05.040 --> 1:27:07.080 Smoke a Lot. It's it's just like how Smoke a 1:27:07.120 --> 1:27:09.360 Lot is the Cogedy Show and tap in is a 1:27:09.439 --> 1:27:11.760 different world. But you get to do this. You get 1:27:11.800 --> 1:27:14.000 to do this by yourself, so you don't have two 1:27:14.000 --> 1:27:16.439 other voices. You're competing with no and I don't have 1:27:16.560 --> 1:27:20.439 the studio format. I go to him, so that enables 1:27:20.479 --> 1:27:22.720 me to kind of really tap in with you. And 1:27:22.800 --> 1:27:25.479 I'm adapting to the environment of my guests. So you're 1:27:25.479 --> 1:27:28.400 gonna see some episodes. I'm somewhere where you might figurively 1:27:28.479 --> 1:27:30.720 think I'm not supposed to be there, but if you're 1:27:30.720 --> 1:27:32.360 a nigga, like hey Don, you should have been there. 1:27:32.439 --> 1:27:34.519 So who are some of your upcoming guests on Tapping 1:27:34.600 --> 1:27:37.519 with I got my boy Kareem Grimes. He plays in 1:27:38.000 --> 1:27:40.559 All American. He coming on. You know what I'm saying, 1:27:40.560 --> 1:27:42.439 I gotta. I don't want to give everybody up because 1:27:42.439 --> 1:27:44.400 I don't want to mess up to tap, but I 1:27:44.520 --> 1:27:47.799 got some good I gotta. I'm waiting for James Savage 1:27:47.840 --> 1:27:50.439 and rascasting them to come from Russia. They're gonna rock 1:27:50.560 --> 1:27:52.160 with me, you know, because everybody needs so know. The 1:27:52.360 --> 1:27:55.559 reintroduction of jail felony is James Savage, so he's gonna 1:27:55.600 --> 1:27:57.400 tap in with me. You know. I talked to Uncle 1:27:57.479 --> 1:27:59.840 corrupting them in a minute. But I'm trying to give 1:27:59.880 --> 1:28:02.280 up some right now, some new fresh ship and some 1:28:02.400 --> 1:28:04.799 new heroes out here that, like I say, some actors. 1:28:05.479 --> 1:28:07.840 I'm tapping with the food truck motherfucker's you know what 1:28:07.920 --> 1:28:10.560 I'm saying. All this new ship that we can be 1:28:10.760 --> 1:28:13.840 um showcasing, so I want to use my platform, whatever 1:28:13.960 --> 1:28:16.320 city or whatever, don't matter. I'm tapping in. I'm coming through. 1:28:16.360 --> 1:28:18.280 I'm sliding on you as long as you've got some 1:28:18.320 --> 1:28:20.800 ship work to be tapped in on. Don't mind off? 1:28:21.120 --> 1:28:24.000 All right, well, love everybody know before we wrap up 1:28:24.040 --> 1:28:26.040 the show, Kato where they can find you at online 1:28:26.240 --> 1:28:28.320 on Instagram. You can find me the Cato for in 1:28:28.360 --> 1:28:30.640 your kt O E F O R N I A 1:28:30.920 --> 1:28:34.760 at Gmail on UM. I'm not really on Twitter like that, 1:28:35.120 --> 1:28:36.680 you know what I'm saying. I probably should, but I 1:28:36.720 --> 1:28:39.040 don't be on that ship. And just funk with smoke 1:28:39.120 --> 1:28:41.519 a lot yucking mouth TV right now we're airing all 1:28:41.560 --> 1:28:45.439 of episodes off Yukmouth TV on on YouTube, so you 1:28:45.479 --> 1:28:48.639 can tap into the yadada. Yeah what I'm saying, And uh, 1:28:49.200 --> 1:28:51.200 Facebook ain't ship, so yeah, just suck with me on 1:28:51.320 --> 1:28:53.599 Instagram man and tapping with the nigga. And if you're 1:28:53.600 --> 1:28:57.280 an artists out there, actor somebody that's doing this stuff, 1:28:58.040 --> 1:29:00.040 you know what I'm saying. Fun with the nigga, I 1:29:00.120 --> 1:29:03.920 throw the holly back, all right. And before we wrap up, James, 1:29:03.960 --> 1:29:05.680 you wanted to address one of these questions that I 1:29:05.720 --> 1:29:09.000 was gonna actually say for next week, but go ahead. Yeah, 1:29:12.439 --> 1:29:15.479 Kevin Burrell and James McDonald was the two officers that 1:29:15.560 --> 1:29:18.760 got killed. His name was actually James McDonald, Sam is 1:29:18.800 --> 1:29:22.680 his exact name name was. And James McDonald. He was 1:29:22.760 --> 1:29:25.280 a white cop. And Kevin Burrell was was a brother. 1:29:25.960 --> 1:29:29.680 He was a jailer too, cool as the mud. And 1:29:29.800 --> 1:29:33.120 all the guys in Compton that went to jail, Kevin 1:29:33.160 --> 1:29:36.040 Burrell was cool as the mud. Now that's a question 1:29:36.160 --> 1:29:40.439 from Logo five on Apple Podcasts that asked, can you 1:29:40.479 --> 1:29:42.920 speak on the two Compton police officers that were gunned 1:29:42.960 --> 1:29:47.120 down in actually going in the wrong place at the 1:29:47.160 --> 1:29:51.040 wrong time. Uh, it was pulling over a bounty hunter. 1:29:51.120 --> 1:29:54.880 Actually yeah, I don't want to speak bad on burning 1:29:54.920 --> 1:29:57.800 hunt his but he was going through some ship and 1:29:58.040 --> 1:30:02.760 and the situation happened. I don't know what was on 1:30:02.880 --> 1:30:05.960 his mind or whatever. I'm speaking of. Kevin brill And 1:30:06.240 --> 1:30:09.679 and and James McDonald, they was cool, and I'm talking 1:30:09.720 --> 1:30:14.920 about cool, and they was partners, I guess that night 1:30:15.000 --> 1:30:21.599 and running to Jim and last their lives. It's very 1:30:21.720 --> 1:30:26.040 rare that someone drops two cops, let alone just one. 1:30:27.400 --> 1:30:31.479 I'm mad at somebody. Now, if you're in the same car, 1:30:32.040 --> 1:30:37.000 I mean, it goes to say, are you e very 1:30:37.120 --> 1:30:40.639 just saying kind of held four game bangers in the car, 1:30:40.760 --> 1:30:43.240 get cut with eight cage, pull over and let the 1:30:43.280 --> 1:30:47.360 police take eight cages from him. But you're shooting the niggers, 1:30:48.560 --> 1:30:52.240 but you're pull over for the police. Blow the windows 1:30:52.280 --> 1:30:55.679 out there, motherfucking whistle. They're gonna stop. Now. I didn't 1:30:55.720 --> 1:31:02.240 say that. I'm talking about usion, but still, ye Jewish 1:31:02.240 --> 1:31:05.839 stop for the police. Ain't something wrong with that? Something's 1:31:05.880 --> 1:31:08.880 wrong with that? So I mean, yeah, I just wanted 1:31:08.920 --> 1:31:12.560 to mention them too. I knew him, and uh it 1:31:12.720 --> 1:31:15.719 was cool. It was cool, all right. Well that wraps 1:31:15.800 --> 1:31:20.479 up episode thirty one of the Gangster Chronicles. And if 1:31:20.520 --> 1:31:23.080 you're trying to track James McDonald down, you can go 1:31:23.200 --> 1:31:26.960 to Facebook and find his his page there. He's got 1:31:27.040 --> 1:31:30.000 the red Harley in the profile pick and you could 1:31:30.000 --> 1:31:34.560 also find him on Instagram at b I G G 1:31:34.720 --> 1:31:38.400 JTY thirty six. You can find me at alex Alonso 1:31:38.520 --> 1:31:44.559 one zero one on all social media platforms um nine 1:31:44.640 --> 1:31:47.120 zero nine eight sixty four zero four if you're still 1:31:47.120 --> 1:31:49.400 trying to get one of them death row shirts. Won 1:31:49.439 --> 1:31:52.400 that Reggie Wright war on his way to turn himself 1:31:52.439 --> 1:31:57.960 into federal prison And please share either the episode of 1:31:58.040 --> 1:32:01.040 the show with anyone else us if you enjoyed this 1:32:01.120 --> 1:32:06.000 episode and we're out, oh my mom, oh my mama. 1:32:08.800 --> 1:32:17.280 I like this has been a digital soapbuts network production.