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Speaker 1: And while everyone knows Sheffield for his power in his

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Speaker 1: In fact, you can make a good case that Sheffield

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Speaker 1: That raises the question, what kind of case can he

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Speaker 1: anti omarvs Skill? We'll take a look at Sheffield's fascinating case,

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Speaker 1: which may be the marlins best chance at a Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer for a long time, and where this past

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Big Hall Talk, everybody. I'm Ethan Midowski, and

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Speaker 1: I don't care how many players make the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: so long as the right ones do. One of the

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Speaker 1: guys that I would really love to see get in,

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Speaker 1: and I know a lot of Marlins fan would Marlins

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Speaker 1: he might be the best chance that the Marlins have

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Speaker 1: Before we take a look at what really were his

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Speaker 1: interesting just like early life facts that I gathered from

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Speaker 1: the legendary Mets pitcher, and his family actually lived with

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Speaker 1: he wasn't just you know, a guy that showed up

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Speaker 1: And then really in high school is where it took off.

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Speaker 1: have been at that same level that he was obviously

433
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Speaker 1: at his peak. It doesn't last forever, you know, unless

434
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 1: you're freaking Tom Brady who won't go away. But it

435
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: never got ugly either, And that's what a lot of

436
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 1: these you know, Hall of famers, it never gets ugly

437
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: for them. Larry Walker went out with a great World Series.

438
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 1: Barry Bonds had a thousand ops in his last year,

439
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 1: and this was another guy where it just never got ugly.

440
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 1: You never saw him looking not like himself. And that

441
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 1: is truly one of the great things about Gary Sheffield's career.

442
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: So you want to total it all up, here we go.

443
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: Here are the final numbers for Gary Sheffield in his career.

444
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 1: A two ninety two hitter, three ninety three on base

445
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 1: percentage shows how prone he was to taking walks, five

446
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: fourteen slugging shows his dominant home run power. Nine h

447
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 1: seven ops total five hundred and nine home runs. He

448
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 1: is part of the five hundred home run club. A

449
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: one forty one rated runs creative plus sixty two point

450
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 1: one war. You know, you talk about that war threshold.

451
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: Some people put it at fifty, some people put it

452
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: at fifty five. Pretty much everybody says that sixty is

453
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 1: a lock or at least pretty close to a lock.

454
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: And sixty two point one with no value on the

455
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball, negative value on the defensive

456
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,959
Speaker 1: side of the ball. Sixty two point one war just

457
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: basically from what you do at the plate is truly

458
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: exceptional and it shows that Gary was one of the

459
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Speaker 1: best hitters of his generation by far, one of the

460
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 1: greatest hitters of all time. You could argue and certainly

461
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 1: at his position and will take a look comparing him

462
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: to his position in a second, you know, nine time

463
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 1: All Star, five times Silver Slugger, a World Series champion.

464
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: You know, doesn't have the gold Gloves. He doesn't have

465
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Speaker 1: an MVP to his name, but you know, he doesn't

466
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Speaker 1: have an Aaron Award, but he does have the recognition

467
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: of I was a nine time All Star. He spread

468
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: those out throughout his career a lot. He had five

469
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: Silver Sluggers. He won two early, one in ninety two,

470
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: one in ninety six, and then he won three straight

471
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: from three to five. So he did it over the

472
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: course of twenty one years. He spread it all out

473
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 1: and he was never it never came crashing down for him.

474
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: He was still Gary Sheffield till the end. And that

475
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: is what makes him so exceptional, and that's what makes

476
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Speaker 1: his case so interesting. So now that we've taken a

477
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 1: look at Sheffield's career and his path to where he's at,

478
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: now let's take a look at his case and let's

479
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: just kind of set the table and lay out what

480
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: it's all really comes down to. So here the pros. Obviously,

481
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 1: the pros is he's one of the best hitters of

482
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 1: his generation. He was a model of consistency over twenty

483
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: one years. Like I said, it just never tailed off.

484
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: He was still hitting at a very good league you know,

485
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: above league average level all the way to the end

486
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: of his career. You saw the dominance in the middle

487
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 1: of his career was just amazing. His peak, I said,

488
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: it was, you know, the years in Miami and Los Angeles.

489
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: You could probably even add those years in Atlanta, and

490
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: those years in New York were even very good. So

491
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: it was just so consistent over so long. And it

492
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: just shows you how difficult it is because not every

493
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: player does that, even guys that are in the Hall

494
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: of Fame, you know, had ugly ends to their career,

495
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 1: but he didn't. He was so dominant at times, one

496
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: of the most dominant players in the league. You could

497
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: argue he played twenty one years, never had a bad season,

498
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: and his only bad seasons really you know, that weren't

499
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,239
Speaker 1: affected by injuries. He never had a bad season that

500
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 1: wasn't injury related. That he didn't miss a bunch of

501
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: time something like that. So when he was healthy, he

502
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: was amazing throughout his career sixty two war despite being

503
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: a poor defender. It shows how tremendous his value was

504
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: at the plate. You don't get that very often. His

505
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: offensive value, according to Fangrafs, would be twenty first among

506
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: all players in the Hall of Fame at every position.

507
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 1: It's above guys in the Hall of Fame like Chipper, Tomy,

508
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: Eddie Matthews, Mike Schmidt, some exceptional players that this guy

509
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: is above that. He was a better offensive player than

510
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: some of these players, you know, than some of these guys.

511
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 1: That first bat, you know, Chipper was sure fire, Tomy

512
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: is already in, Eddie Matthews is a legend, Mike Schmidt

513
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: one of the greatest players of all time. So he's better,

514
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 1: you know, better offensively than these guys. Obviously, you know,

515
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: Chipper wasn't a great defender, and certainly Tomy wasn't. But

516
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: Eddie and you know Schmid had their moments that you know,

517
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: at defense. So in Schmidt, I mean, obviously Schmid's one

518
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: of the greatest players of all time, you know, defenders

519
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: of all time. But he was a better offensive player

520
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: than these guys. So you have to take it into

521
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: the fact that he had more of an impact on

522
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: the offensive side the ball. And we'll talk about this

523
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: in a second, but you have to kind of weigh, well, okay,

524
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: does you know, having a big offensive impact mean more

525
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: than having a big defensive impact, and clearly it does

526
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: because he was able to rack up sixty two war.

527
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: We'll get really into the teeth of that discussion in

528
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: a second. His war, I'm gonna put him in the

529
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: right field category because that's just what I remember Sheffield

530
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: at and that's kind of what he played towards the

531
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: end of his career and stuff. His war would put

532
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: him thirteenth among right fielders. It would put him just

533
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: behind Tony Gwinn, who you can actually, if you dig

534
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 1: way it runs great at plus into account, you could

535
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: say that Sheffield's better hitter than Tony Gwinn. I mean,

536
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: Tony Gwinn was, you know, pure contact and didn't strike

537
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: out more than like four times and whatever that crazy

538
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: number that Quinn has. But he would be just behind

539
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 1: gwyn and War among right fielders, so thirteenth and just

540
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: ahead of Dave Winfield and Andre Dawson, two legends. And

541
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 1: it just shows how tremendous he was. And these guys

542
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: were good to fay and Sheffield wasn't. And it shows

543
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: the kind of offensive value that he had that he

544
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: was still able to put up more war than those

545
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: guys without contributing anything on the defensive side of the ball.

546
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: Let's go to the negatives. Obviously, obviously there's one big negative,

547
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: and it is that he is I'm just gonna say it,

548
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: the worst defender of all time. It sounds crazy to say, it,

549
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: sounds ridiculous, but it matches up. Actually, Gary Sheffield is

550
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: probably the worst defender of all time. You could make

551
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: a legitimate argument for it. And he actually according to

552
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: defensive value. And I don't love defensive value. It's or

553
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: just defensive metrics really, but because I don't know how

554
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: you can really measure that kind of stuff, but defensive

555
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: value kind of you know, takes everything new account. He

556
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,719
Speaker 1: would have the single worst defensive value in the Hall

557
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: of Fame by a wide margin. I'm talking right now.

558
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: It's Frank Thomas. Frank Thomas is the worst defender in

559
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. His defense value is thirty three

560
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: points worse than Frank Thomas. So that just goes to

561
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: show that it's really hard, but you know, that's just

562
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: what it is. And he was He would be the

563
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: worst offender in the Hall of Fame, and he could

564
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: be the worst defender of all time. He was the

565
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: other thing is he was named in the Mitchell Report,

566
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: so he does have steroid connections. That's one of the

567
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: reasons that he's struggling on the ballot a little bit

568
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: right now. He never filled a test though he was

569
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: named alongside guys like Bonds and Clemens with their trainer,

570
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: so it's a little sticky. You know. I've mentioned that

571
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: I don't keep steroid guys out, especially guys like Sheffield

572
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: and Bonds and Clemens who are so dominant. But it

573
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: you know, there's obviously a reason that he hasn't gotten

574
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: in yet. All right, let's take a look at comparing

575
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: him to some of the guys in his era, some

576
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: guys that he would have gone up against in his

577
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: career and guys that you know would challenge him. You know,

578
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: he'd lost an MVP of lad But here's Ladd's career

579
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: numbers three eighteen, three, seventy nine, five point fifty three

580
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: nine thirty one OPS one thirty six weighted runs crede

581
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: A plus So the OPS is a little higher, but

582
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: five points less in weighted runs creative plus and Vladd

583
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: only has fifty four and a half wour. So Gary's

584
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: got him beat there. You know, you want to talk

585
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: about my guy, Larry Walker. Uh three thirteen, four hundred

586
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: five to sixty five nine sixty five ops. So he's

587
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: got a beat there, you know, one forty weighted runs

588
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: creat a plus. So right around where Sheffield is. Sheffield's

589
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: won forty one and uh, Larry has sixty eight point

590
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: seven war and he was an outstanding defender. Larry missed

591
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: a lot more games than Gary did, so it's a

592
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: little tough to you know, match wars up. They can

593
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: be a little tough. But he had just six more

594
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: war than Gary, and he was a seven time Gold Glover.

595
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: So it shows that Gary's you know, offensive value matches

596
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: up with some of the greatest. I mean, he had

597
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: more weighted runs created plus than than Walker did. Here's

598
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: a guy I wanted to do this one for fun,

599
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: Mike Piazza. He was traded for Mike because he was

600
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: traded for Mike Piazza. Piazza one of the greatest offensive

601
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: catchers of all time. Threeho eight, three seventy seven, four

602
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,959
Speaker 1: fifty five nine two ops. So he's got all these

603
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: guys have Gary beat in ops. And I think Gary

604
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: was hurt by the end a little bit in terms

605
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: of his ops falling down in nine oh seven, but

606
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: he has one forty way to runs creative plus. So

607
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: Gary's got him beat there as well by a point,

608
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: just like he's got Larry and a sixty three point

609
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: seven war. So just a little bit more war than Gary,

610
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: just a little bit more valuable. But you can see

611
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: that he matches up with some of the greats of

612
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: his era. And all three of these guys have are

613
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame, have been inducted into the

614
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame in the last five six years, I think.

615
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: So he matches up to the greats, he matches up

616
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: to guys in the Hall of Fame. There's no doubt

617
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: he has a Hall of Fame resume. I tried to

618
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: find somebody that in the Hall of Fame that compares

619
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: to him, but it was really difficult because first of all,

620
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: you can't find that bad of a defense. And then

621
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: second of all, if you find okay, well, a really

622
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: bad defender but a better hitter, a guy like Reggie Jackson.

623
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: Reggie Jackson played longer, so he's got ten more war

624
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: than Gary. So it's a little tough. There's nobody really

625
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: like him, and that's what makes his case. So fascinating

626
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: is it's one of the most unique players you can

627
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: find out there. So his Hall of Fame comparison. I

628
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: tried to find one. I had a little trouble with it,

629
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: so I wasn't able to get one for you guys,

630
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: But those are some guys that he you know, matching

631
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: up against those guys for most of his career a

632
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: lot of they're all three of those guys had the

633
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: same peak around, you know, they kind of peaked around

634
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: the same times, and Gary matches right up with them,

635
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: and they're all in the Hall of Fame. So I'm

636
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: not saying I'm just saying, let's talk about where he

637
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: stands on the ballot. I talked about this on the

638
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: last episode where I went through the ballot, but I'll

639
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: just reiterate this now. I did listen him in the

640
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: in Trouble section, and the reason I did is because

641
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: he's really towing the line. So I'm going to reiterate

642
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: where he kind of stands here. He's really walking this

643
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: fine line of if one thing doesn't go his way,

644
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: then he won't get in, but if things go his way,

645
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: he'll get in. Probably in his last year on the ballot,

646
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: So this year, it was his seventh year. He got

647
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: forty point six percent of the vote. He was up

648
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: ten percent from last year. In year five to year six,

649
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: he got a sixteen point nine percent jump, which is huge.

650
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: He's averaging thirteen point five percent jump the last two years.

651
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: So if he continues at that piece, like I said,

652
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: he would get in on the final ballot. It's he's

653
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: gonna need some help. You know, these ballots might start

654
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: getting crowded, he might get pushed off a little bit.

655
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: We don't really know what the ballots are gonna look

656
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: like coming down the pipe here. It could hurt Sheffield.

657
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: But if he continues to jump, you know, he's got

658
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: thirty five percent to make up in three years. So

659
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: he would get in with that thirteen point five percent

660
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: increase every year, and uh, it would be close, but

661
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: he would get in in, like I said in the

662
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: last year. So will he continue to see these jumps,

663
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: well they slow down, Will something somebody come on that

664
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: kind of boxes him out? We don't really know. But

665
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,959
Speaker 1: at this current pace, yes, he would get in. But

666
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: like I said, it's really close. He's walking this line,

667
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: so I'm not ready to say he's safe yet. I

668
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: didn't put him in one of the guys that had

669
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 1: a huge year. I said he was kind of in trouble,

670
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: So we'll see how it goes. Of course, there's always

671
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: the interesting question will his links to peds keep him out?

672
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: You know it, His image hasn't been harmed as much

673
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: as guys like Bonds and Clements, who are really the

674
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 1: face of this whole thing. But he was named alongside

675
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: Bonds in these allegations, so it's hard to say whether

676
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: or not, you know, he will be affected by that.

677
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: So what's the decision? Here we go? This is what

678
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: the decision comes down to. Basically, Okay, can you obviously

679
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: the number one thing is can you put his defensive

680
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: deficiencies aside? Can you say that he was so valuable

681
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball that it doesn't

682
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what he did on the defensive side

683
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: of the ball. Now you might be saying, Ethan, you're

684
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: a hip you don't want to vote for omar Vis

685
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: scale because omar Vis SkELL only played one side of

686
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: the ball. He was one, you know, one of the

687
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: great defenders, but he couldn't hit, and Gary Sheffield is

688
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: one of the great hitters. But he couldn't field. But

689
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: to me, offensive value is much more impactful than defensive value.

690
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: You want to match him up correctly. Okay, Viscale has

691
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: like forty six war and that's you know, with his

692
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: defensive impact. Gary Sheffield no defensive impact, has sixty two war.

693
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: So it kind of shows that offense is much more

694
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: valuable than defense. And if you've got that much war,

695
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: if you're a sixty two win player, over the course

696
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 1: of your career, you helped your team get sixty two wins,

697
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: that's it. You're in a sixty you know, to me

698
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: is a pretty clear If you pass sixty, boom, that's it.

699
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: You're a lock to me. And you know, I'm obviously generous.

700
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: My podcast is called Big Haul Talk, But yeah, I

701
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: think that's a pretty good measure of you should be

702
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: in or not. So it really comes down to he

703
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: is basically the anti Viscal because Viscal is the defense

704
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: and can't hit, and Sheffield is the offense but can't field.

705
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: So which one do you value more? And can you say? Okay,

706
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 1: you know, if you left Viskel in for only playing

707
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: one side of the ball, then you have to let

708
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: Gary in for only playing one side. Of the ball,

709
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: because the side of the ball he plays is much

710
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 1: more impactful, and it helped him have a much better

711
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: career and a much more valuable career when all the

712
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: things shook down. So to me, if I haven't made

713
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: it clear already, you've probably heard me on my ballot. Yes,

714
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: Gary Sheffield absolutely a Hall of Famer. His resume, his

715
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: resume at the plate is so outstanding. It's just like

716
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: I just marveled at it. I couldn't believe looking at

717
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,959
Speaker 1: these numbers, how good he was year after year after year,

718
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 1: for how long he was good for I tweeted something

719
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: out yesterday when I was writing the show and I

720
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: was doing all the research and everything I was working

721
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: on the episode, and I just couldn't believe how much

722
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: of them I use this phrase earlier, how much of

723
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: a model of consistency he was at the plate. Here's

724
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: a good stat for you about Gary Sheffield and how

725
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: tremendous he was, Okay, between ninety two and five, which

726
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: you know, you could say that was the year he

727
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: broke out. To the end of his Yankees career, he

728
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: never had a way to run creative plus below one

729
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: twenty three, and that was the year that he was traded,

730
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: so he played for two teams that year. Obviously, you know,

731
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: trades can effect it. He started a little slow in

732
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: San Diego and then he heated it up when he

733
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: came down to South Florida. But he he never had

734
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: a way to run Crede a plus from ninety two

735
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: to five, that's thirteen years, but low one twenty three

736
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: and the next lowest that he had was one thirty seven.

737
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: So that just shows a dominance over a long, long

738
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: period of time. It shows how amazing he was consistently

739
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 1: that he never stopped and it was always dominant. Always

740
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: Gary Sheffield. He was always going to crush you. And

741
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: he had five hundred nine home runs in his career. It's,

742
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: you know, five hundred home run club. That's pretty much it,

743
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: you know, I don't I don't know if there are

744
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: any guys in the five hu home run club that

745
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: aren't in the Hall of Fame. So to me, it's

746
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: a no brainer. You know, the batting stance has to

747
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: stand for something, right. That was so iconic, and he

748
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 1: was such an iconic player because of it and because

749
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: of how imposing he was at the plate that I

750
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: just can't see anyway, He's one of those guys that

751
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: you look at him and you say, obviously he's a

752
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, right because he was so good So

753
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: to me, absolutely, Gary Sheffield one hundred percent of Hall

754
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: of Famer. I want to hear from you guys when

755
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: I put the when I tweet out the pod, I'm

756
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: gonna put up a poll. I want to hear what

757
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: you guys have to say. I know a lot of

758
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 1: Marlins fans are going to say, yes, you want that Marlin.

759
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: You hope that Gary would wear a Marlins hat in

760
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: and I think there's a good case that he would

761
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: because his best years probably were in Miami. Now, we're

762
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: going to do something new on the show. Something I'm

763
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: going to be introducing, and this will be a continuation

764
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: thing that we're going to be running every day or

765
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: every show, I mean, until we do the Barry Bonds episode.

766
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: Barry Bonds was so unbelievably good at baseball, and sometimes

767
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: it's just impossible to believe. Some of the stats that

768
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: he put up over his career and some of the

769
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: things that kind of played out over his career are

770
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: so unbelievable. And if you look up crazy Barry bonds stats.

771
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: There are really some unbelievable things out there, So I

772
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: want to shout out my boy Lafontaine and IDB one one,

773
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: two seven out on Twitter. They came up with a

774
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: great idea for me and they called it, I think

775
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: Christian called it two bonds and a Lie. That's where

776
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: he pretty much presented me with the name. But they

777
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: presented me with the idea. So I want to give

778
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: a big shout out to them for the idea. I

779
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: know that I'm a Hall of Fame player. I don't

780
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: really need to get into that. I'll leave that to

781
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: you guys to make that determination. Here's what I'm gonna do.

782
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you three statistics. Two of them are true,

783
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: one of them is a live. So it's two truths

784
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: in a lie, but it's two bonds in a lie.

785
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna put up a poll where I'm gonna

786
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: ask everybody which one they think is the lie, and

787
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: then next week I'll let you know which one was

788
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: the lie. So you gotta listen next week. It'll be

789
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: right at the beginning of the show. Next week, you

790
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: gotta listen so you can hear. And then at the

791
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: end of the show next week, I'll give you guys

792
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: another one. So here we go. Here are the three statistics.

793
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: Two are true, one is a lie. Let's go. In

794
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: two thousand and four, Barry Bonds reached base more times

795
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: than he had at bats. That's the first one. The

796
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: second one, Bonds had a higher way to runs create

797
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: a plus in his final season than Stan Musual and

798
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: Jimmy Fox did in their entire career. So two legends,

799
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,439
Speaker 1: Jimmy Fox and Stand Musual did. Bonds have a higher

800
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: way to runs create a plus in his final season

801
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: than they did in their entire careers. The third one,

802
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: the difference between Barry Bonds and the next highest number

803
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: of intentional walks in a career is higher than the

804
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 1: amount of intentional walks the next player has, So basically

805
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: the next player's number. The difference between Bonds and the

806
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: next player, the difference is higher than how many walks

807
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: intentional walks the next guy had. I just want to

808
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: make that clear. I think you guys get it, but

809
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: if you don't, I can explain it another time. Anyway.

810
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: Let me repeat those so that everybody hears them and

811
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: can sit on them and think about them. The first

812
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: one in two thousand and four, Barry Bonds reached base

813
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 1: more times than he had at bats Bond. The second one,

814
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: Bonds had a higher way to run s created plus

815
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: in his final season than stand Musual and Jimmy Fox

816
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: did in their entire careers. And the third one, the

817
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: difference between Barry Bonds and the next highest number of

818
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 1: intentional walks in her career is higher than the amount

819
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: of intentional walks the next player has. Those are your

820
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: two bonds and a lie. I want you to tell

821
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: me which one you think is the lie. We're not

822
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: searching for the truth, We're searching for the lie here.

823
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: It'll be revealed on the next show. I'm gonna put

824
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: up a poll on Twitter along when I tweet out

825
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: the show, where you guys can vote for which one

826
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: you think is the lie. And then next week I'll

827
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: tell you guys if you were right. Next week. What's

828
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: going on next episode? Not next week? Right now, I'm

829
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: going to be doing episodes every two weeks. That's kind

830
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 1: of fitting the best schedule for me. You know, if

831
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: you guys want hey, if you want more content, I

832
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: think that I might be able to do every week.

833
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm going to try every two weeks, but

834
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 1: if it comes up that I need to do more content,

835
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: maybe as we get closer, maybe stuff comes up. I'll

836
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: be releasing you know, more content if you guys want it,

837
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: but for now, every two weeks. Next time next episode

838
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: will be our first guest, My buddy Alex Reeveman will

839
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: be joining us. He'll be filling out his own ballot.

840
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: Reaman's a good buddy of mine, him and I. This

841
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: is kind of where my love for the Hall of

842
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: Fame started, with him just talking about the ballot and

843
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: talking about how terrible some of the results on the

844
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: ballot were, and obviously about how great Barry Bonds is.

845
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: So i'll have him on to the two Bonds and

846
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: a lie. Next week he'll also be revealing his ballot,

847
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: and I think it should be interesting because Reeveman and

848
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: I see eye to eye on a lot of things,

849
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: but there are also a lot of things on this

850
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: ballot that I don't really think we'll see eye to

851
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: eye on. So I don't know his full ballot actually,

852
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: but I'm interested to see it when it comes out.

853
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: After Reeveman, we'll be doing the Andrew Jones episode, and

854
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: then we'll figure it out after that, but it'll go

855
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: Reaveman Andrew Jones. The next cases after Andrew Jones are

856
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: Billy Wagner and Scott Roland. We'll see how they play out,

857
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: whether I have a guest on him between there or something.

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Speaker 1: So that is what the future is looking like here

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Speaker 1: on Big Hall Talk.