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Speaker 2: Ryan is on the phone today for a first date

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Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by Ella. So in

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Speaker 2: a few minutes we'll call her see if you tell

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Speaker 2: us why she's ghosting and maybe get him another date

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Speaker 2: the first Ryan, how long has it been since you

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Speaker 2: heard from Ella?

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Speaker 3: It's been It's just been a few days. But you know,

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Speaker 3: it was such an instinct connection. I'm really baffled.

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Speaker 4: What was your last interaction?

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Speaker 3: Like, well, we I mean initially we were just you know,

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Speaker 3: texting over Bumble the dating app, and but but we

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Speaker 3: we did go out. We went on a We went

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Speaker 3: on a first date to a nice restaurant, and I

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Speaker 3: don't think it could have gone any better.

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Speaker 4: Really, Okay, we'll tell us about the date.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we we went to an Italian place. We

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Speaker 3: were both both pasta lovers, and we were just laughing, drinking.

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Speaker 3: We bonded over the fact that we're both newly divorced

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Speaker 3: And she she told me she wanted to start a family,

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Speaker 3: and I told her, I, actually I'm already at Dad,

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Speaker 3: and she took that she was just like in she was.

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Speaker 3: She wanted to see pictures of my son and wanted

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Speaker 3: to hear stories. It was an incredible conversation. After you know,

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Speaker 3: the check came and everything, and she didn't want it

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Speaker 3: to or we didn't want it to end, I guess.

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Speaker 3: So we went to the bar to you know, to

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Speaker 3: have a little coffee and just keep chatting. And you know,

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Speaker 3: we both had to get up the next morning and work,

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Speaker 3: so we made plans to meet up again. I thought

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Speaker 3: we could go on a bike ride, and she was

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Speaker 3: into that idea and said we you know, I text

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Speaker 3: her the next day, and I mean I thought that

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Speaker 3: second day was going to.

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Speaker 4: Happen for sure.

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Speaker 1: So you guys basically made plans for a second date

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Speaker 1: and just never happened.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I haven't.

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Speaker 3: She didn't respond back ever.

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Speaker 2: Then anything awkward at all happened on the date. Any

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Speaker 2: reason you can think of that you're getting ghosted.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like the one there's one thing where I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I guess I could have This might have been a

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Speaker 3: dumb thing to say. When we switched from our you know,

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Speaker 3: our dinner table to the bar. The bartender came up

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Speaker 3: to us and he asked if me and my wife,

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Speaker 3: didn't correct him. I said, oh, you know, I thought

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Speaker 3: it was kind of cute. I thought, actually, my wife

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Speaker 3: and I were just going to have an express so

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Speaker 3: and she laughed too, and you know, I I thought, okay, sweet,

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Speaker 3: like she gets my sense of humor and everything. And

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Speaker 3: I went to the bathroom. I came back, but she

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Speaker 3: was if something happened. I don't know, she maybe had

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Speaker 3: time to think about it, or I offended her, you know.

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Speaker 3: When I got back, she seemed kind of anxious to leave,

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Speaker 3: a little antsy, and we just, you know, hugged good bye,

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Speaker 3: I guess I put my foot in my mouth there.

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Speaker 4: Maybe if she laughed about it.

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Speaker 1: However, I could see if you're somebody that's freshly divorced

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Speaker 1: and not being a wife anymore, and then even to

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Speaker 1: be joked, like even if it's just joking, that's a

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Speaker 1: title that you gave up, and then to be like, ah,

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Speaker 1: my wife, maybe it just kind of put her in

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Speaker 1: her feels, maybe had nothing to do with you at all.

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Speaker 1: It just kind of put her in her feels or something.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Yeah, that's tough. Have you reached out

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Speaker 4: to her then? Since?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the next day I texted about, you know,

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Speaker 3: for her, And you know, I didn't hear anything back,

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Speaker 3: and I figured, you know, I don't know, if she's

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Speaker 3: I texted, you know again the next day and yeah, just.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, well we'll see if we can figure it

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Speaker 2: Then we'll play a song come back, and then call

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Speaker 2: her in steef ttels why she's ghosting you, and maybe

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Speaker 2: get you another date.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that'd be great. Yeah, all right, well.

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Speaker 2: Pla us on come back, get your first day follow

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Speaker 2: up next. Right in the middle of the first day

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Speaker 2: follow up and if you're just joining us, Ryan is

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Speaker 2: on the phone and he's getting ghosted by Ella. So

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Speaker 2: we're about to call her stiftels why she's ghosting him

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Speaker 2: and maybe get him another date. But before we do that, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: why don't you refresh our memory on your date with Ella?

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Speaker 3: Yeah. We went out to dinner Italian restaurant. We had

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Speaker 3: a great time. She loved the fact that I'm a

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Speaker 3: dad and she's she's divorced too, and you know, but

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Speaker 3: still wants to have a family. We had coffee at

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Speaker 3: the bar after dinner, and I referred to as my

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Speaker 3: wife as a joke, and then the vibe changed.

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Speaker 2: It's sacrifice tough when something like that happens off somewhere,

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Speaker 2: you're on a date and someone calls them your girlfriend,

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Speaker 2: because you don't want to be like, yeah, they are,

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Speaker 2: but you also want to be like whoa, no way,

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Speaker 2: don't even say that far the other way, like I

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Speaker 2: would never all right, well that would be Wait you

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Speaker 2: ready for us to call her?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Please?

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Speaker 4: Okay, here we go. I may I speak to Ella? Please? Ella?

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Speaker 2: Hi?

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Speaker 4: How are you?

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Speaker 2: My name is Jewbel. I'm calling from a radio show

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Speaker 2: called the Jewbil Show.

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Speaker 4: Hi. Ella, I mean I'm here too.

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Speaker 5: Hi.

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Speaker 4: How are you?

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Speaker 5: I'm okay?

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Speaker 4: How are you good? Do you ever listen to the

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Speaker 4: show at all? Uh? Not really? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Well, maybe do that from time to time to be cool,

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Speaker 2: but also no pressure if you haven't.

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Speaker 4: We do a segment on our show. It's called the

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Speaker 4: first date follow up.

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Speaker 2: That's where if you go out on a date with

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Speaker 2: somebody and then end up ghosting them, that person can

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Speaker 2: email us to get you on the phone and ask

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Speaker 2: why you're ghosting them. So, oh my gosh, we got

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Speaker 2: an email about you.

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Speaker 4: You're kidding, No, I'm not. Do you know who would

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Speaker 4: email us? I have an idea you want to take

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Speaker 4: a guess?

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Speaker 5: Is it Ryan?

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Speaker 4: Yes? It is Ryan. Hilarious emailed us. We talked to him.

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Speaker 4: He told us about your date.

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Speaker 2: He said he really liked you a lot, but he

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Speaker 2: doesn't know why you're ghosting him, and would you mind

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Speaker 2: telling us?

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Speaker 5: Oh, I feel really awkward about this. I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 4: Okay, this is the same space, though, I swear.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I mean I thought he was great. We had

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Speaker 5: a great time. It was very sparky. I mean, I

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Speaker 5: don't know how much he told you, But so I'm

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Speaker 5: recently divorced and we were having a great night. And

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Speaker 5: I guess what, I'm honest, Like, I got on Instagram

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Speaker 5: picture of my ex with his new girlfriend. Oh, and

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Speaker 5: I guess I just got kind of in my feels

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Speaker 5: about it. And I feel like maybe my mood kind

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Speaker 5: of wrecked the night. It kind of just made me realize, like, oh,

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Speaker 5: maybe I'm not as ready as I thought I was.

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Speaker 5: I should have handled those very differently, but I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I'm kind of new at this and thought run away.

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Speaker 1: Your instincts are to run. I mean, yeah, that's hard.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot to process all at the same time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I feel bad. He seems like a nice guy.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we really did hit it off.

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Speaker 2: So you're ghosting him because you saw a picture of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I'm ghostuming because I think I'm like,

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Speaker 5: oh god, am I actually ready to be jumping back

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Speaker 5: out there? If this silly picture threw me off so hard?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, whether you're ready or not.

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Speaker 1: I think those types of pictures throw anybody off their game, Like,

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Speaker 1: even if you were already moved on in another relationship,

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Speaker 1: seeing it for the first time, I would imagine it's

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Speaker 1: so kind of shocking.

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Speaker 4: No, like, jobble, don't you feel that way? No, I

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Speaker 4: never care. Oh, okay, I'm glad. Usually okay, I'm like,

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Speaker 4: good they've moved on.

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Speaker 1: Well, I understand, and I feel the same way. But

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying is maybe that doesn't mean you're not ready,

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Speaker 1: It's just that you needed to rip the band aid off.

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Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, maybe. I mean the phone was taken

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Speaker 5: our old friends. Like, I don't know, he just threw me, Okay,

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Speaker 5: it wasn't fair to Ryan.

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Speaker 2: Well you can say that to Ryan if you want to,

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Speaker 2: because he's actually on the phone listening and wants.

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Speaker 4: To talk to you.

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Speaker 5: God embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: Sure, Hey, hey, Ella, I I uh, I don't care.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I totally get it that you were you

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Speaker 5: Frankly, I'm sorry that was not the most mature way

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Speaker 5: same position.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I I totally I understand where you're coming from.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I mean, if we if we were

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Speaker 3: welcome to, you know, talk about this type of stuff,

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Speaker 3: like we can totally talk it out.

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Speaker 2: Really well, Ella, would you like to go out with

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Speaker 2: Ryan again on another date. We'll pay for it, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'd love to.

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Speaker 3: Amazing.

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Speaker 4: Got another date.

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Speaker 3: Yay, we can still do the bike ride and then

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Speaker 3: we'll we'll go to another.

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Speaker 4: Restaurant, the spot Pictures.

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Speaker 4: Juble's first date follow up