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Speaker 1: This is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war

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Speaker 1: room for inseter news and draft analysis from deep within

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Speaker 1: the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star Infrasco.

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Speaker 2: Now your hosts Botch Lombardi, Nick Harris, Bobby Belt, Tommy Yarish,

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Speaker 2: and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 3: Today is Thursday, January eighth, twenty twenty six, and we

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Speaker 3: are officially one hundred and five days away from the

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Speaker 3: NFL Draft.

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Speaker 4: In Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: Welcome in everybody to the Draft Show presented by Miller Lyte.

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Speaker 3: Today we're talking defense with Fotch Lombardi, Nick Harris, Tommy Yarish,

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Speaker 3: Bobby Belt, with Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 3: Welcome in everybody. We were just having an off air

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Speaker 3: conversation kind of spoiled or spilled over a little bit

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Speaker 3: into on air stuff of where we are today getting

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Speaker 3: things from a board standpoint.

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Speaker 4: From a scouting reports standpoint.

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Speaker 3: It's still hard to even see what we're going to

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Speaker 3: look at because we don't know what the defensive coordinator

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Speaker 3: is going to be for Dallas moving forward. But I

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Speaker 3: think we can all kind of say we're moving in

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Speaker 3: the right direction. And for those that listened on Tuesday

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Speaker 3: to our first episode that was laying the groundwork, today

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Speaker 3: we're going to get into some scouting reports and I'm

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Speaker 3: really excited about this episode.

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Speaker 4: Nick. We got to stay away from day three guys today.

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Speaker 5: Please sounds good speak for ourselves.

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Speaker 3: I don't need your FCS corner or safety or whatever

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Speaker 3: you put in the group.

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Speaker 6: Man, the STS corner that he watched when he was

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Speaker 6: in like tenth grade somewhere.

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Speaker 7: See, man, this is the thing. We all watch guys

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Speaker 7: in passing so we know people. You know what I mean,

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Speaker 7: Like we know names. I don't feel great coming on

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Speaker 7: here if I haven't watched a guy, you know what

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Speaker 7: I mean? Because if I say something wrong, that's like

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Speaker 7: a million people to just saw. If I say something crazy,

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Speaker 7: that may not be true, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 7: So we y'all talking about safety yesterday. I normally hate safety,

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Speaker 7: so I don't even talk about him. I just see

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Speaker 7: it back and let y'all talk. But the one thing

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Speaker 7: is if Kyle would have win to me, Hey, Vice,

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Speaker 7: what you think about that fifth round cat Nique just

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Speaker 7: talked about, I wouldn't have an answer for you, sir,

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Speaker 7: because I.

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Speaker 3: Hate to see you, and that's why I wouldn't ask

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Speaker 8: But let me tell you something so flat. What I

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Speaker 8: love the most.

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Speaker 7: Oh No, Bobby just talked about Cash is how right

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Speaker 7: he smiled real be So now we get to have

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Speaker 7: a smile context about how much we like Cash's house

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Speaker 7: for real and have an extended conversation about.

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Speaker 8: How much we like it.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, Cash is how from.

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Speaker 7: Texts anem is from Texas, I mean from a yeah, Tasma.

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Speaker 4: We got to get into that sort of habit as well.

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Speaker 3: Getting schools with the name so that way everybody at

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Speaker 3: home can follow along. We're going to talk about positions

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Speaker 3: of need for Dallas, what type of scenarios you could

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Speaker 3: see depending on where Green Bay's pick ends up in

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Speaker 3: that second selection in the first round, and then we're

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Speaker 3: going to continue moving forward as well, uh talking about

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Speaker 3: in the first round overall, because you've got to find

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Speaker 3: a way to fill out this defense in multiple areas.

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Speaker 3: But I'm wanna start with edge rusher just because this

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Speaker 3: was a team that really struggled to get pressure at

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Speaker 3: any point and Tommy, I'm gonna start with you some

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Speaker 4: Rattle off the names, and who's your favorite of the bunch?

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Speaker 9: Long?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, My favorite of the bunch right now is David Bailey,

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Speaker 10: the defensive end from Texas Tech sixty three, two fifty.

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Speaker 10: He's just a game wrecker man, and I think when

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Speaker 10: Him and Romelo Height, the other edg rusher on the

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Speaker 11: All.

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Speaker 10: That kind of core is what helped Texas Tech make

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Speaker 10: the College Football Playoff, and it's his explosiveness off the

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Speaker 12: He can win with speed, he can win with power,

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Speaker 12: He's good bend.

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Speaker 10: More often than that, he just kind of finds ways

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Speaker 10: yesterday how atrocious this team was with turnovers in twenty

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Speaker 10: twenty five, So I think he fits a lot of

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Speaker 10: what they're looking for. Some other guys like I've got

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Speaker 10: Ruben Bay behind him, obviously incredibly powerful player. You can

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Speaker 10: lot of talk about him on social media about Okay,

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Speaker 10: do you maybe move him inside the defensive tackle. I

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Speaker 10: think the wider that you push him out, the better

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Speaker 10: he is. In my opinion, I think that he has

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Speaker 10: a little bit more athleticism than what shows you.

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Speaker 10: That, but I think he's a little bit more athletic

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Speaker 12: He's going to be a really good player.

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Speaker 7: I feel like, let me ask you this, Tommy, why

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Speaker 7: do you have Bain second and Bailey first? What is

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Speaker 10: I like Bailey's quickness off the line. I think that

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Speaker 10: And I think that he's just a gritty player who

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Speaker 10: is consistently in the backfield. The sack production backs it up,

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Speaker 10: like I said, and he makes the smart plays. He's

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Speaker 10: able to open things up for his teammates. I mean,

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Speaker 10: the middle too with Texas Tech. I'm sure we'll talk

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Speaker 10: it just opened up so many things, and it seemed

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Speaker 12: I just think he had more of an impact on

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Speaker 7: Let me say this, I don't quite disagree with Like,

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Speaker 7: I don't hate that you have him first, right, sixteen sacks,

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Speaker 7: twenty nine hits, sixty pressures, that's stupid. I do have

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Speaker 7: Bang first, though, And where I do kind of disagree

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Speaker 8: I think he's great there.

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Speaker 7: I also think Bain, being like two seventy two eighty

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Speaker 7: a little bit more of an edge. But my smallest

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Speaker 7: line up NB gap and whoop some feet And now

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Speaker 7: Nick Hare is not out of his head. When you

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Speaker 5: I think I like him as more of like a

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Speaker 5: And I don't think there's a wrong answer, actually, I

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Speaker 5: don't think that. You know, it depends on teams and

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Speaker 5: of a hey, let's get the athletic, two hundred and

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Speaker 5: let's just say what feet, We'll put him at the

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Speaker 8: Him roll Timmy roll maybe going crazy he does.

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Speaker 3: Where do you feel like Dallas would lean and Bobby,

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Speaker 3: I'll kind of defer to you there. Because they have

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Speaker 3: Donovan Azraku as that athletic guy on the outside, not

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean a lot of it's going to obviously

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 6: Will McLay always does a really good job of whenever

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Speaker 6: run with five defensive line looks they do like the

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Speaker 6: idea of Clark, Odigi, Zua and Quinnen together. Maybe they

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Speaker 6: would rather just have that defensive tackle group more as

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Speaker 6: you want to have somebody who's more of like a

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Speaker 6: these are the edge dressers at the top this year

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Speaker 6: so far that I've seen. They're all like really unique

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Speaker 6: Like everybody's got something where it's like, well, is this

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Speaker 6: exactly what makes them fit into the NFL mold or

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Speaker 6: what teams want? And so Bain is obviously a guy

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Speaker 6: who I think the guy that he kind of reminds

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Speaker 6: he was just thick, strong, had a ton of tools

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Speaker 6: Lawson was. But that's the kind of play that I

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Speaker 6: had really short arm gets he rex arms.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, And the thing with Bain too is what I

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Speaker 10: put down here is and you saw this last week

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Speaker 10: in the College Football Playoff GA when they played Ohio State,

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Speaker 10: and I'm sure you might see it to night against

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Speaker 10: You might see early in the game that maybe a

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Speaker 12: So that's certainly something that I like with him too.

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Speaker 5: Ruben Bain is I want to see the consistent production

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Speaker 5: last game. In the regular season, you have five and

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Speaker 5: Going back and look at those games, and there's stuff

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Speaker 5: and there was a lot of attention dedicated toward Rubin Bain.

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Speaker 5: I need to see Ruben Bain wreck of games when

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Speaker 5: offensive coordinators focus on him. The same thing can be

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Speaker 5: production is very scattered, but when he shows up out

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Speaker 5: of Texas A and M, it is very scattered. When

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Speaker 5: he shows up, My god, like it's he's a game

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Speaker 5: wrecker too, and I think he would have top fifteen potential.

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Speaker 5: I want to see these guys have consistent production to

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Speaker 5: that top ten. I don't think there's a top ten

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Speaker 4: Is there a top twelve edge in this class?

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Speaker 5: So I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Kind of on that that idea. So you're talking about

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Speaker 5: Probably not Probably. I don't think there's a top ten

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Speaker 6: I was gonna say, how much do you tweak that

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Speaker 5: Somebody will get pick top ten, don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 6: Or I would say, would you ever envisioned yourself if

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Speaker 6: you were an edge hungry team sitting at nine, going like,

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Speaker 6: I may have somebody a little higher, but he is

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Speaker 5: I would take a Caleb Downs over these edges.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I mean I would too, Caleb Down Safety.

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Speaker 5: Safety out of Ohio State. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, get

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Speaker 5: which I found out this morning. Apparently this is common

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Speaker 5: no knowledge that he's the brother of Josh Downs. I

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Speaker 6: Ago.

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Speaker 5: I completely missed that, and I was like, what at

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Speaker 5: Taylor Rooks used to baby sit them. I was like, you, look,

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Speaker 5: you're watching those G five safeties right, Yeah, Taylor Rooks

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Speaker 5: they were destined for greatness.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Watch, this is common knowledge, dude, pick up.

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Speaker 8: I don't be keeping I watched film and move on

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Speaker 8: watching Taylor.

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Speaker 4: Take your notes.

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Speaker 13: Nick, let me ask you a question, man, Uh, so

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Speaker 13: So hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, we're talking about Tyler Booker. No, Nick,

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Speaker 13: you said, uh, you ain't got no top ten pigs

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Speaker 13: in this one. You wouldn't put David Bailey up there?

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Speaker 13: Nick le Man, you turn a red Nick?

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Speaker 7: Uh, where would you put David Bailey versus like, uh,

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Speaker 7: I got like a dual card or like Mike Wheels

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Speaker 5: I would have had a duel Carter higher, I would

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Speaker 4: You liked him.

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Speaker 5: I liked mikel I didn't have them top ten. I

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Speaker 6: Is I guess this is one of the things that

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Speaker 6: Is RVL recent edge to you or is he linebacker?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's gonna be a tough one. I need to

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Speaker 5: see how he tests. I want to see how he

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Speaker 5: rece out of Ohio State.

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Speaker 6: Oh High State, the Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: Just get sure when it comes to linebackers, just kind

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Speaker 3: good transition. That's a guy who you could have, a

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Speaker 3: linebacker who you could have it edge rusher. Are there

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Speaker 3: top first twenty five picks where the Cowboys had those

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Speaker 5: You said linebacker at linebacker. Yeah, I think I love

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Speaker 4: I really do. It's a different thought process than you

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Speaker 4: maybe had it. Edge rusher. Correct, love the edge.

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Speaker 5: Rusher, please correct RVL Recent Sunny Styles out of Ohio

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Speaker 5: all three of those guys could potentially be top twelve guys.

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Speaker 5: I love all three of them. I'd be completely fine

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Speaker 8: I think CJ.

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Speaker 5: Allen is my favorite as of today, but it's very early.

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Speaker 5: I'm a big Cjallen guy, but we'll see as time going.

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Speaker 6: If you're talking about guys that can come in and

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Speaker 12: Allen.

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Speaker 6: I feel like CJ. Allen that's an NFL linebacker tomorrow.

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Speaker 11: And so.

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Speaker 6: Reese Styles, Yeah, Georgia recent Styles from Ohio State. They

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Speaker 6: both are like both young, both super high upside, both

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Speaker 6: athletic freaks, both still I think raw and still kind

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Speaker 6: there's just still some of it where you can see, like,

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Speaker 6: But I think Reese Styles definitely go in the top fifteen.

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Speaker 6: I guess it just kind of depends, Like I mean,

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Speaker 6: It honestly sounds like almost like a little bit of

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Speaker 5: He makes a lot of sense for this team.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Is it really one of those cases where there's three

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Speaker 3: Allen from Georgia, and all three of those guys are

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Speaker 5: I would say yes. I think the guy who has

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Speaker 5: He didn't have a slight speed. He didn't have a

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Speaker 8: We're gonna sh you a question about c J. Allen.

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Speaker 7: How do y'all think he's gonna run and test and

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Speaker 7: things like that, because I kind of watched all these

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Speaker 7: Sonny moves really well and he's flying over there, and

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Speaker 7: I don't think CJ moves as well as him. But

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Speaker 7: I don't have a great deal for how CJ mooved.

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Speaker 7: What I love about CJ is how physical he is

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Speaker 7: so physical, like he wears down on these teams. He

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Speaker 7: knocked folk out. But when I watch styles, I see

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Speaker 8: Do y'all think C. J. Allen's gonna run as well

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Speaker 4: I don't think, no, I don't.

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Speaker 10: I think you hit it and the nail on the head.

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Speaker 10: I remember with Sunny styles to the linebacker out of

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Speaker 12: Spot you see some of the tape that he puts out.

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Speaker 10: Watching the Miami game from last week, I thought he

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Speaker 12: But he's still a really good player.

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Speaker 10: What I think with Alan, I think Nick made the

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Speaker 10: that's important to recognize. And yes, it's for how physical

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Speaker 10: which is why I think too as well, like they

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Speaker 6: He's not as undersized for the position as this guy was.

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Speaker 6: He is sort of a like linebacker version of sense

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Speaker 3: Just to put a number to your film study, there's

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Speaker 3: some projections on what they would run. Those three Sunny

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Speaker 3: styles is anywhere from a four four seven to a

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Speaker 3: four or five flat rvel Reese both these guys out

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Speaker 3: of Ohio State anywhere from a four or five flat

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Speaker 3: to a four or five three, and then CJ.

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Speaker 4: Allen is four, five, five and above in all these projections.

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Speaker 3: So it's not by a lot, but there is a

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Speaker 3: significant difference between the two and or between the three

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Speaker 3: guys and where CJ Allen would go. But I think

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Speaker 3: I'm with you in terms of the recognition, the first

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Speaker 3: step quickness, and the ability to get downhill. That's what

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Speaker 3: Georgia did with CJ Allen all year long, and they

452
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Speaker 3: were a different defense at different times in the year,

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Speaker 3: but when they got better as the season went on,

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Speaker 3: it was because CJ Allen was playing.

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Speaker 5: I'll say of the three, c J Allen was the

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Speaker 5: only State qualifier in high school for track and field,

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Speaker 5: and it was in the state of George. Are really

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Speaker 5: good track, really good track states. So something to keep

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Speaker 5: in mind moving forward. As far as verified athleticism, he

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Speaker 5: at least has that in his background.

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Speaker 3: I want to get to corners and safeties in the

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Speaker 3: third segment. So we're going to take a break, go

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Speaker 3: more of The Draft Show. Already hit some edge rushers,

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Speaker 3: Chris Beam, It's time for some twitter on they on

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Speaker 3: the twenty. Ashley is going to get us started. How

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Speaker 3: deep is this edge class? I don't want the Cowboys

526
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Speaker 3: to miss out. We just mentioned some of the top names. Nick,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to defer to you where is the sweet

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Speaker 3: spot for edge rusher? If you don't think it's the

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Speaker 3: high end names, is there released some depth that Dallas

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Speaker 3: can take advantage of?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I think I do like this second first round pick

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Speaker 5: and kind of the range that they would be in

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Speaker 5: to potentially swing on another edge or if they end

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Speaker 5: up trading out of that second first round pick and

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Speaker 5: moving back a few spots, I just think there's gonna

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Speaker 5: be some guys in the middle there. I'll throw out

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Speaker 5: a few cashes how from Texas A and M. We've

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Speaker 5: already mentioned him a little bit. I think he ends

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Speaker 5: up being in the back end of that first round,

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Speaker 5: potentially top into the second because of those consistent production concerns.

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Speaker 5: But man, when he shows up, he shows up, and

543
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Speaker 5: that's gonna be one of the more intriguing guys to follow.

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Speaker 5: Over the course of the Over the course of the process,

545
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Speaker 5: we've talked about TJ. Parker a little bit out of Clemson.

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Speaker 5: Y'all are convincing me to go back and watch a

547
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Speaker 5: little bit more of TJ. Parker though, and then Young Concrete. Matteo,

548
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Speaker 5: you Young Delia out of Oregon. Out of Oregon, Young Concrete. Yeah,

549
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Speaker 5: he's got music out there, yep.

550
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Speaker 6: But I've just been burned by that. I'm not drafting.

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Speaker 5: Hey, did do you like Kaylin Carson?

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Speaker 8: I just think es.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely not a second round pick, right, But Matteo,

554
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Speaker 5: you Young Deil, a big, physical defensive end out of Oregon.

555
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Speaker 5: I think he can give you some stuff in the

556
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Speaker 5: run game and in pass rush as well. And man,

557
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Speaker 5: he was a game wrecker in the gosh what game

558
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Speaker 5: was that. I believe it was against No It was

559
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Speaker 5: this most recent when against Texas Tech had the strip

560
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Speaker 5: sack and that allowed them to get set up on

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Speaker 5: the goal line to really put that game away. I

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Speaker 5: think in that twenty two to thirty eight range, I

563
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Speaker 5: think there's going to be quite a few that come

564
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Speaker 5: off the board, and I think I think you can

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Speaker 5: find a good hit in those for sure hate and

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna throw Romelo Height. I'm gonna also throw Anthony

567
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Speaker 5: Hill in there, just because I think he could factor

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Speaker 5: himself into the edge conversation by the end of the day.

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Speaker 3: Anything when it gets to the fourth round, fifth round

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Speaker 3: that's even going to make an impact or sniff making

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Speaker 3: an impact at that point.

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Speaker 5: I like Anthony Lucas out of USC Jayshawn Barram out

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Speaker 5: of Michigan, a Key Mesador out of Miami. I think

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Speaker 5: he's going to get knocked for some reasons that I

575
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Speaker 5: do not agree with. And a Key Messidor I think

576
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Speaker 5: is potentially one of the more underrated edges in this

577
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Speaker 5: class right now out of Miami.

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Speaker 4: What is he going to get knocked for.

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Speaker 5: He's going to get knocked for arm length, He's gonna

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Speaker 5: get knocked for size. And also he's like twenty five

581
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Speaker 5: years old, so he is originally from Canada and made

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Speaker 5: his way to University of Miami and he's really shining

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Speaker 5: this year for the Hurricanes. You'll be able to see

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Speaker 5: him to night in the Festa bal against Old miss

585
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Speaker 5: Keep an eye on him. But yeah, those are some

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Speaker 5: of the guys in that range. I'll also throw Damon

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Speaker 5: Wilson out of Missouri, although I think he could come

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Speaker 5: back for another year. We're still in that weird period

589
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Speaker 5: where some of these guys might end up going back,

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Speaker 5: so i'd keep an eye on those names.

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Speaker 3: Tony Romo Fan nine Forever says, and this is this

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Speaker 3: is for vig better not be asking question. Can the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys afford to take a safety and a linebacker in

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Speaker 3: the first round or does one of the picks have

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Speaker 3: to be a premium position like corner or edge rusher

596
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Speaker 3: when it falls where they may.

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Speaker 7: I mean free agency matters first, you know what I'm saying,

598
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Speaker 7: just out of time making that point and all that,

599
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Speaker 7: But you know, I just I just honestly think what's

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Speaker 7: gonna happen is they're gonna take the best dude at

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Speaker 7: fourteen and twenty something is gonna vary. I don't know

602
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Speaker 7: if they're gonna move back with twenty something or they're

603
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Speaker 7: gonna go the best cornerback available. I mentioned the last

604
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Speaker 7: time we was on this show. For some reason, cornerbacks

605
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Speaker 7: that I like just fall into the twenties. So if

606
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Speaker 7: Jamal McCoy from Tennessee because he's hurt or because he

607
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Speaker 7: was hurt or monsoon Delane?

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Speaker 4: What was that?

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Speaker 8: Can we do that Delane from L s U? If

610
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Speaker 8: he ends up in the in the in the twenties French?

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Speaker 8: Because because it's from L. S U, I just assumed

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Speaker 8: that Louise Lsu names got some French to him.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it is so.

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Speaker 6: Sty. I didn't think I didn't think it was.

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Speaker 8: How good.

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Speaker 7: I'll google it and watch me be will But yeah, man,

617
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Speaker 7: all the monsieur Delanne shout out to the player.

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Speaker 8: Uh even uh, even my man Brandon. See who it is?

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Speaker 7: Lane Kevin, Oh, I've been We don't speak, but I

620
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Speaker 7: think there's going to be an opportunity to uh to

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Speaker 7: get some dudes later on. Regardless, So I don't I

622
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Speaker 7: personally don't care about position value that way. If you

623
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Speaker 7: draft a safety first and a linebacker second, I don't

624
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Speaker 7: care though, just as long as they do as you can.

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Speaker 8: You know, you can use.

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Speaker 10: How do you feel about it, Tommy, I wouldn't mind

627
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Speaker 10: Downs first. If we're talking about safety. If Downs is

628
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Speaker 10: one of those picks, then I'm fully with that. I

629
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Speaker 10: think he's going to right now, he's the best player

630
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Speaker 10: that I've watched, and if he ends up there at

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Speaker 10: the end of the year.

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Speaker 12: I wouldn't be surprised either. As far as corners, I'm

633
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Speaker 12: with you on Delane and I think he's really good.

634
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Speaker 12: He's going to be up there.

635
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Speaker 10: Jermond McCoy, you know this team has a history of

636
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Speaker 10: drafting injured players and McCoy hasn't played.

637
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Speaker 12: What were you telling me last night?

638
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Speaker 6: There's a newer tape on Ezekiel Elliott playing for the Cowboys,

639
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Speaker 6: and there's was a Jermond McCoy playing against anybody.

640
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Speaker 4: Wow, that's not good.

641
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Speaker 8: Has some good, but he has great.

642
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Speaker 6: He's that still twenty years I mean he just turned

643
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Speaker 6: twenty years old in September.

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Speaker 10: The tape that he put out against Alabama last not

645
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Speaker 10: this past year, but the year before that, it was

646
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Speaker 10: really good. You see him running with Ryan Williams as

647
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Speaker 10: one of the faster receivers in college football, step for step.

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Speaker 12: He's a good press man guy.

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Speaker 10: If that's what the new defensive cour never wants to

650
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Speaker 10: bring into Dallas again, the question would be, you need

651
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Speaker 10: guys who can contribute.

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Speaker 12: Now.

653
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Speaker 10: I don't know if you would feel as good with

654
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Speaker 10: a guy that's coming off another major knee injury. It

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Speaker 10: hasn't played since twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 11: You have one.

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Speaker 10: I understand that, but that's what I'm saying. You need

658
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Speaker 10: somebody who isn't that. Yeah, yeah, and so that that's

659
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Speaker 10: what I think there. And then uh, just kind of

660
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 10: a sleeper corner. I think he's steadily rising here in

661
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 10: the college football playoff. Keyante Scott from Miami. He has

662
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 10: played unbelievably well for the Hurricanes. I had a pick

663
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 10: sick against a pick six against Ohio State last week

664
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Speaker 10: in the Cotton Bowl. Just a really smart player, and

665
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 10: he was he was injured for some of the year.

666
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 10: He got back later in the year and you saw

667
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Speaker 10: how different things were for them defensively when he was

668
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 10: back in their secondary.

669
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Speaker 12: So that's another really good player.

670
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Speaker 6: I might make some people matter. So phrase the question

671
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 6: exactly as it was again, if you could, Yeah, could

672
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Speaker 6: they afford.

673
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,959
Speaker 3: To can they afford to take a safety and linebacker

674
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 3: in the first round or does that do one of

675
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 3: those picks have to be at a premium position.

676
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 4: So it's at safety and linebacker.

677
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 6: Given this, given who, given who might be there, I

678
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 6: don't know that they can afford not to take those two.

679
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 6: If it's downs at twelve and it's c J. Allen

680
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 6: at twenty or something like that. Yeah, I don't if

681
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 6: you if you tell me they add nothing in free agency,

682
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 6: literally they had nothing. They just resign everybody whatever else.

683
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 6: I don't think there's a combination of two players you

684
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 6: can draft that will make the defense better.

685
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 5: Well, then you have Kenneth Murray. I don't think you

686
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 5: need cj ol.

687
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Speaker 6: I mean, look, he's I mean, he's gonna be hot

688
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 6: commodity wherever flu slans.

689
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 4: So I think, but you have Kenneth Mury.

690
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Speaker 6: But look, I mean that that's the thing. Is that

691
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 6: to me, it's that if you're just talking about because that,

692
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 6: you've got to look at edge rusher's historically do not

693
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 6: perform at a high level. First mediately, corners have a

694
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 6: similar situation. And if you're talking about who are the

695
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 6: higher level pro ready players, it seems like anyway, Alan,

696
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 6: I think at linebacker from Georgia and then Caleb Downs

697
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 6: at safety from Ohio State, those two areas destroyed you

698
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 6: last year in a lot of instances. So I mean,

699
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 6: obviously you would want to add more than that. I

700
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 6: think I'd much rather at that point if I was

701
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 6: told I could get Downs at safety and Allen at linebacker.

702
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 6: At that point I would rather add edge and corner

703
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 6: in free agency.

704
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 3: Is that sort of a pipe dream though, or is

705
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 3: that realistic to look at, I know, down Anyuary Downs.

706
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 6: It just kind of depends, like safeties are so unpredictable

707
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 6: at how the league is gonna view them. Yeah, Allan,

708
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 6: I think absolutely could, Like Alan's a good enough player,

709
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 6: but because it's just kind of probably going to be

710
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 6: middle of the road testing and there are a couple

711
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 6: of linebackers and a couple other like high upside freaks

712
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 6: that people see there at other positions, linebacker naturally kind

713
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 6: of gets pushed down the board. Anyway. At times, it

714
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 6: feels like I think that there were teams who would

715
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 6: think like that and say, well, we'll get linebacker a

716
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 6: little bit later. We'll look at Anthony Hill, or we'll

717
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 6: look at like Jake Golde at you know Cincinnati. We'll

718
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 6: do that sort of thing. We don't need to take

719
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 6: a cjil here, and I would snatch him up that

720
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 6: if he's there at that second pick.

721
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 5: If this team moves on from Donovan Wilson free agency,

722
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 5: I think that's a pretty good indication of what they

723
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 5: would be hoping to get from Caleb Downs. If he's

724
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 5: there at twelve, and if he's there at twelve, I

725
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 5: think it's a no brainer. And that's a guy you

726
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 5: can immediately play and play in Donovan Wilson spot and

727
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 5: he'll start day one and give you production.

728
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 3: It's sticking with linebacker here, Hutch asks where would you

729
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 3: rank this year's linebacker class compared to the previous three

730
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 3: or four years And is there a linebacker in the

731
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 3: class outside of CJ. Allen that would make an immediate

732
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 3: impact for this Dallas defense.

733
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 6: I mean, it's better than last year's. So it depends

734
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 6: on how quickly some things can click. So for instance,

735
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 6: when we talk about Sonny Styles, like that's a younger player,

736
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 6: but somebody who's a really nice athlete and shows nice

737
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 6: instincts and can do some impressive things when playing back.

738
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 6: I wonder like Leyton vander esh was thought of when

739
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 6: he was first drafted as like a little raw, little

740
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 6: toolsy he's four years removed from playing seven man football

741
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 6: in Idaho or whatever it was, But it clicked right away.

742
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 6: So it just would depend on how quickly Styles and

743
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 6: Reese could come along. But Allen, to me is the

744
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 6: only one that right now you know where he is

745
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 6: as a pro ready player, you can get into Day

746
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 6: two a little bit. Like we just mentioned at Cincinnati,

747
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 6: Jake Goldey there's he reminded me a lot of the

748
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 6: Hell's the Arkansas linebacker from a couple years ago, but

749
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 6: he was fighting about Drew Sanders.

750
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 4: Sanders, Yah, Drew.

751
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 6: He reminds me a lot of Drew Sanders where I

752
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 6: think some teams made view him as like, okay, he

753
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 6: could potentially edge rush. He could. Maybe this human is

754
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 6: a blitzer, but like really long athletic linebacker the way

755
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 6: Layton was too coming out of Boise. So I think

756
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 6: just some of the other linebackers they have questions about

757
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 6: how quickly they can turn that corner.

758
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,959
Speaker 5: I think this is a deep linebacker class. Now, how

759
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 5: many can contribute day one. That's probably a conversation we

760
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 5: need to have, maybe like a month from now after

761
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 5: Senior Bowl to see what these guys look like up

762
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 5: up close and in person, because the physical aspect is

763
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 5: obviously a big, big part of that at the linebacker spot.

764
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 5: But man, when we're talking about Day two, day three,

765
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 5: there's gonna be more guys in this class than we've

766
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 5: talked about in previous classes. You know, in previous classes,

767
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 5: it's been like, Okay, you know we're in the fifth round. Here,

768
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 5: smart James. You know he's a good players. Let's swing here.

769
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 5: Now I think you get in the fifth round. I'm like, man,

770
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 5: that's a stealer in the fifth round when this makes

771
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 5: sense to go ahead and grab this guy.

772
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 4: Kind of reminds me of how you view the running

773
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 4: back class last year. Yeah, yeah, guys.

774
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 5: It's not necessarily the same in numbers because there was like,

775
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, there was like thirty guys that I

776
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 5: think ended up getting drafted out of the running back class,

777
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 5: whereas like this one I from the linebacker class. I

778
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 5: think you'll see probably closer like twenty three. But that's

779
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 5: still really good from this linebacker class. And there's guys

780
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 5: like Drake Bowen out of Notre Dame, Aiden Fisher out

781
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 5: of Indiana, Landrar Barton out of Utah. These are guys

782
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 5: that have been consistent long term starters for these groups

783
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 5: for Power four programs and have been productive that that

784
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 5: could still potentially be there at the top of day three.

785
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 4: That you're real quiet when we're talking about these linebackers here.

786
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 7: No, man, because I'm thinking about my guy from last year,

787
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 7: Carson Sweesssinger. I don't like the La Ucla and I

788
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 7: don't like none of these characters more than him. But

789
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 7: I'm processing what Nick was saying, like, maybe some of

790
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 7: the guys down the lists are better than some of

791
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 7: the guys down the list from last year.

792
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 4: You don't like CJ. Allen more than Carson Swestsinger.

793
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 7: I love Carson Wessinger, I know, love cars, swastnger to pieces,

794
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 7: and I do not like CJ. Allen more than Carson

795
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 7: swet or our guy from the year before, Peyton Wilson.

796
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 7: Peyton Wilson loved me, love no needs, I love me

797
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 7: some Peton, and I just don't see any of these

798
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 7: guys better than them.

799
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 6: Where did you have Swesstinger last year?

800
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 7: Swesssinger was like my he was a second, like top

801
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 7: of the second round, my second linebacker.

802
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 6: Okay, so you think Reese styles all these guys, they're

803
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 6: not top of the second round type players.

804
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 7: Well, every draft is different, Every draft is different. So

805
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 7: I do like Reese, I like Sonny, and I like CJ.

806
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 7: But I'm just thinking about Sweesssinger as a player versus

807
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 7: these guys. Like right now, I think Swesssinger is better

808
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 7: than what I'm getting from them.

809
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 3: Trying to give in the first round grade to any

810
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 3: linebacker in this class. If if you had Swesstinger at

811
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: at the top of the second round.

812
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 8: Every draft is different. And I'm I'm very phony too.

813
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 7: Let me just say this, and I'm also very phonny,

814
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 7: but I look at what RVL Reese does differently than

815
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 7: what Carson does or I think Carson is like ready

816
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 7: to go right now. Sonny Styles probably got some growth.

817
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 7: I don't like the players. I got to put a

818
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 7: bunch of work in. That's why I'm not a big

819
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 7: Michael Williams fan, because Michael needed a whole bunch of

820
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 7: work and growth and coaching. I want to see what

821
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 7: you got on film. Right this second, I just thought

822
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 7: Carson swastiw Was was a better right now linebacker than

823
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 7: Sonny Styles. Sonny may be higher on my board at

824
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 7: the end of the day, because yes, he can play now,

825
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 7: but his ceiling could be much better than Carson. Like

826
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 7: he's a much better athlete than Carson. I think Carson

827
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 7: was a much better processor than Sonny, like right this second.

828
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 7: But hey man, I'm phoney. I'll change my mind and

829
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 7: by the time we get to April, I say something

830
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 7: totally different, and you're.

831
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 4: Allowed to change your mind in the draft process. That's

832
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 4: part of how this changed my mind all the time.

833
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 7: But I'm just thinking about what I felt from Carson

834
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 7: as like a complete dude, as a I see it

835
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 7: and I'm snapping and I'm getting there, run game type guy.

836
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 7: I'm seeing it behind me. I can blitch you a

837
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 7: little bit. I'm making plays in the coveraging things like that,

838
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 7: right Like, I'm seeing all this kind of stuff. I

839
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 7: don't see a good cover dude in CJ Allen. I

840
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 7: don't see a very I kind of wish Sonny was

841
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 7: a little more physical sometimes, you know what I mean.

842
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 7: I think RVL is raw, but I love to have

843
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 7: him because of his skill set, you know what I mean.

844
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 7: So every one of these guys, just like we said

845
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 7: about Edge, they're not really like complete dudes. I don't

846
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 7: thin we got complete dudes at linebacker right now. I

847
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 7: just thought Carson was very, very complete last year.

848
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 3: All right, good questions across the board on Twitter on

849
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 3: the Funny but your phony. When we come back on

850
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 3: the Draft Show, we're going to talk about that secondary

851
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 3: a little bit. More in depth some of these corners,

852
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 3: some of the safeties you mentioned.

853
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 4: What did you call him Vatch?

854
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about him, some of the scouting reports,

855
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 3: at the cornerback spot, and at the safety spot.

856
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 4: Outside of the top names when we return. More of

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Speaker 4: What do you like about him and what could he

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that you know you won't find many

916
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 10: better Manda Man corners. I know I talked a little

917
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 10: bit about Jermad McCoy, but the injuries is the question

918
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 10: mark there. I think he's really good in press, mirrors

919
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 10: his receiver well, one of those guys that is better

920
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 10: as a north and south runner, I think than he

921
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 10: is covering the middle of the field. Know his size

922
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 10: might bring up questions about okay you bump him into

923
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 10: the slot or not. I think he's going to be

924
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 10: fine on the outside. He's okay in zone, but really

925
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 10: good when the ball is in the air and in

926
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 10: his area. He does everything possible to knock the ball away.

927
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 10: He's an experienced player. Transferred to LSU from Virginia Tech,

928
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 10: and I think this was his best year. It seemed

929
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 10: like every time LSU played they he would make plays

930
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 10: for them rooms for improvement, just kind of running the

931
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 10: ball and finishing plays in the run game. He's not

932
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 10: gonna wow anybody with his size, but he just kind

933
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 10: of has a knack.

934
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 12: For playing the position.

935
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Speaker 10: I played three years at Virginia Tech before dres RAINALSU

936
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Speaker 10: and I watched a couple of games with the Clemson

937
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Speaker 10: one to open the year. This past year was the

938
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Speaker 10: one that stood out to me for man Swordland I

939
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 10: think he's gonna be a really good player.

940
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Speaker 7: Super smart player too, Like he just kind of reads

941
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 7: everything around and just reads the eyes of the quarterback.

942
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 7: He's he's very confident using his eyes and looking around right,

943
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 7: great recovery, you know, arms and all this kind of stuff.

944
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 7: I kind of want all these corners to tackle a

945
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 7: little better. So I'm not gonna, you know, knock anybody

946
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Speaker 7: for the tackling. I just want to praise, like, really

947
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 7: good tackles. I don't see any of these guys is

948
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 7: really good tackles. But I think people should be talking

949
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 7: about monsour DeLand a little bit more. I think he

950
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 7: could be one of those dudes that can go top

951
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 7: twelve or so.

952
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying.

953
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 7: I personally think there's a weird thing going on with

954
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Speaker 7: corners and that they go later, but it musco win

955
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 7: like top fifteen. It makes a ton of sense to

956
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,280
Speaker 7: me to hear. Mind you, anybody I don't do dow

957
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 7: player comes with you. No, not a comp but did

958
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 7: anything go like, oh that's similar? pH Nope, Terry On

959
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 7: Arnold that is who I saw.

960
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Speaker 8: Yeah.

961
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I really like Terry On Arnold. Yeah, and

962
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Speaker 6: Arnold was a guy who I felt like we were

963
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Speaker 6: talking about going like could he go ten or could

964
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Speaker 6: he go twenty or like it just kind of depended

965
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Speaker 6: on how much teams were worried about ran four or

966
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Speaker 6: five at corner. You know, maybe you're a little more

967
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Speaker 6: slightly built. I think it's gonna be probably the same

968
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Speaker 6: thing for Delanne if you just watch like the tape

969
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Speaker 6: and see how he covers. He's so so good, but

970
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Speaker 6: it's just the physical traits don't really pop. But I

971
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 6: mean the route recognition, the instincts, the hip floid. I

972
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Speaker 6: really like him. He reminds me a ton of Arnold,

973
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Speaker 6: and I would have taken Terry on Arnold on this team.

974
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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 6: I know Detroit it's been a little bit of a

976
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Speaker 6: struggle for them, But to me, I think Delaane would

977
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 6: make a ton of sense for the scene. If you

978
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Speaker 6: are trying to find when we're talking about pro ready players,

979
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Speaker 6: that's somebody I think can come in and cover right

980
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 6: away and be a good player. So if you're gonna

981
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Speaker 6: tell me they're taking a corner to be pro ready,

982
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Speaker 6: he would be the closest one.

983
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Speaker 7: Let me ask you a question, YEP, I've kind of

984
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 7: miss this a little bit. But you're like lead guy

985
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 7: and you've got friends in the league. You know what

986
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 7: they tell HI about. How come in these years where

987
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 7: we do have a number one corner that's like a

988
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 7: number one corner Terry and Arnold or if you thought

989
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 7: Kenyon Mitchell, like Johnny Barron was like really half of

990
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 7: me porter back in the day, we all loved him.

991
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 7: How come these corners that we love they end up

992
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 7: going later?

993
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 4: Why is that?

994
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 8: Is that a lead t No?

995
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 6: Like, I mean, I think that if you've got so

996
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 6: there were there have been various corners that was it

997
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 6: a couple of years ago where like Witherspoon went in

998
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 6: the top six, and so I think that was a

999
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 6: draft for there are a couple of corners who went

1000
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 6: really really high. Obviously we're just you know, four years

1001
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 6: removed or whatever from Sir Tan and Horn going in

1002
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 6: the top ten. I think it's just been there have

1003
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 6: been reasons to ding some of them, and that'll be

1004
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 6: the case again this year. The top two we're talking

1005
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 6: about right there. Jermad McCoy has not played football in

1006
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 6: over a year, and there's been precious little in the

1007
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 6: way of like concrete updates about him. Monsieur Delaine is

1008
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 6: a guy who some people go like, sizees average, He's

1009
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 6: gonna be a four or five guy. Probably, it's not

1010
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 6: like overwhelming speed. And then in your spouse, Yeah, like

1011
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 6: Terry on Arnold, similar player that we'd be talking about

1012
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 6: a couple years back, Caleb Farley, really really impressive, but

1013
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 6: injury questions and how raw he was, And so I

1014
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 6: think it's just a lot of these corners have been

1015
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 6: They've all had some sort of flaw for the most

1016
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 6: part that makes teams go like, all right, well, there's

1017
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 6: too many questions there, Let's let him slide a little.

1018
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 4: Can I ask about Germond McCoy Tennessee.

1019
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, missed all of twenty twenty five, got hurt torn

1020
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: ACL January of twenty five. He was projected to be

1021
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 3: a first round pick. He decides to rehab all year long,

1022
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 3: has not played. But by the time he takes the

1023
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 3: field next fall or this upcoming fall, I guess now

1024
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 3: in twenty six he's going to be what fifteen months

1025
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 3: twenty months removed from his injury before he gets back

1026
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 3: to full game tape. Is that still classified as a

1027
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 3: risk taking an injured player? Not specifically for the Cowboys.

1028
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 3: I don't think he fits the mill that Dallas needs

1029
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 3: right now. Somebody who hasn't played football in two years.

1030
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 3: But is that a higher risk because of the time

1031
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 3: off or is it not as high of a risk

1032
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 3: because of the Yeah.

1033
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 6: I mean some COVID players who were not injured, they

1034
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 6: just sat out the year. Some of them were viewed

1035
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 6: as risks by people.

1036
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 4: Micah and so like.

1037
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 6: I think that when you watch look if McCoy did,

1038
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 6: if McCoy stayed from twenty four, was done in twenty

1039
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 6: twenty five, and he's a twenty year old cornerback coming

1040
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 6: out with that tape. In this draft list, he's going

1041
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 6: in the top ten and nobody's asking about it. It's

1042
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 6: just we have seen across the NFL too. I meane

1043
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 6: Savone revel. We'll see with him how how he bounces back,

1044
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 6: but we've seen that some of those knee injuries with corners.

1045
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 6: It doesn't feel like there was a time where acls

1046
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 6: used to concern you. Then they reached the point where

1047
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 6: he's like, ah, acls are just they're part of life,

1048
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 6: and you get them and you get them repaired and

1049
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 6: everybody's good. It feels like there's kind of been like

1050
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 6: a turn back lately where there's questions about how quickly

1051
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 6: some players bounce back from acls. I specifically feel like

1052
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 6: at corner, an at receiver and some of those cutting positions,

1053
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 6: and so I think that's just the thing is that

1054
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 6: some people they just it's the un know. You don't

1055
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 6: know how he bounced back from it.

1056
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 10: And the thing with with McCoy specifically is what pops

1057
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 10: out on tape is how good he is when he

1058
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 10: changes direction or when he's cutting and turning back to

1059
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 10: a receiver and making up ground. If you have questions

1060
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 10: about his ability to plan his foot and trust his

1061
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 10: need to turn back to the ball and turn back

1062
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 10: to the receiver, then that that's what makes it scary.

1063
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 10: And there's no there's gonna be no tape to give

1064
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 10: you any semblance that maybe a pro day workout or

1065
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 10: something like that. You get to see it, but you

1066
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 10: know who knows what he's going to decide to do.

1067
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 5: You have a great show today, white House, fantastic point,

1068
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 5: white House, Texas native. By the way, me and Jermal

1069
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 5: McCoy are born in the same hospital.

1070
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 6: Fun time.

1071
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 5: But with Jamal McCoy, I want to see him work

1072
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 5: in the pro day. I want to see him work

1073
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 5: at the combine. I need to see him this this process.

1074
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 5: I'm sold, don't get me wrong. The tape, I'm sold.

1075
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 5: I need to see that. That need is better. Yeah,

1076
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 5: the same questions I had about Revel last year. If

1077
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 5: you remember, I was like, man, I love the player

1078
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 5: if it wasn't for the injury first round, no doubt.

1079
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 5: But we haven't seen this guy and that is not

1080
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 5: easy for a long, lengthy corner to come back from.

1081
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 5: That's why I had him fifty six on my board,

1082
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 5: and I think it's ultimately why ye to the third round.

1083
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 6: That tape we're talking about too on McCoy, which it

1084
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 6: would feel I could be top ten player right now.

1085
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 6: I mean the last time he played football, he was

1086
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 6: nineteen years and three months old, Like he is a

1087
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 6: he was a teenager when he put that tape out there.

1088
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 8: Ohio statemum, like and it's a big game, it's.

1089
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 6: It's he's he's really really impressive. The question just like,

1090
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 6: is is that the guy? I don't? I mean, I

1091
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 6: you you can assume or you can have these, but

1092
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 6: it's enough of a question that just makes you say,

1093
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 6: do I want to take a top ten to fifteen

1094
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 6: capital risk on somebody that I just I don't know

1095
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 6: where I'm trying to project out how they look athletically.

1096
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 3: I want to go back to the fact that Nick

1097
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 3: knew what hospital he was born in. Is that just

1098
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 3: because there's only one hospital out there or when did

1099
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 3: you go back in terms of the was there like

1100
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 3: on a bio.

1101
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 5: Say sobodyterm McCoy grew up with my little cousins and

1102
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 5: so know the McCoy's. I don't know the McCoy's well,

1103
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 5: but in my family.

1104
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 4: Your family knows them, Okay, McCoy family.

1105
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 3: Speaking of guys that could be freaks, let's just talk

1106
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 3: about the cornerback spot, some of these guys that we're

1107
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 3: going to see in the playoffs, especially Seattle. I mean

1108
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 3: guys like Devin Witherspoon was fantastic, You had reeked the

1109
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 3: freak who played on that secondary for a long time,

1110
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 3: who was just testing off the charts at the secondary spot.

1111
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 3: Where's the number one guy on your list that is

1112
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,959
Speaker 3: going to be a good tester at the cornerback spot.

1113
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 3: Because I'm looking down my list, I see a lot

1114
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 3: of six foot I see a lot of five eleven,

1115
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 3: I see a lot of four or five speed. For

1116
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 3: four speed, the first guy I look at is a

1117
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 3: guy like Dalen Everett from Georgia. Yeah, a guy with

1118
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 3: six foot one, two hundred pounds four three five type speed.

1119
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 4: I mean, is he the number one? Let's just call

1120
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 4: him a freak at the secondary spot.

1121
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 5: Dylan evertts He's one that I know tested well during

1122
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 5: his recruitment process. And that's where I'm kind of calling

1123
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 5: back to some of these guys because that's the only

1124
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 5: verified numbers.

1125
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 4: That's what we got right these guys.

1126
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 5: I think back to Chandler Rivers out of Duke as well.

1127
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 5: He's a Boumont area guy. He was a guy that

1128
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 5: tested well. Keith Abne out of Arizona State. He was

1129
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 5: a track guy at Waksahatchie in South DFW. You were

1130
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 5: talking about you don't have any corners that you really

1131
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 5: love from a tackling perspective in this class. Go check

1132
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 5: out Keith Keith Abney. Yeah, he can lay a hat.

1133
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 5: I think he's got nickel versatility as well, and probably

1134
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 5: better as a nickel at the next level. But yeah,

1135
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 5: the testing aspect, that's gonna be a big question with

1136
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 5: a lot of these guys. But once they start getting

1137
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 5: involved with xo's and some of these pre draft processes,

1138
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 5: we're gonna get a good idea of who's gonna show

1139
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 5: out at the combine. And that's gonna be a big question,

1140
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 5: no doubt.

1141
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 4: How do you feel about this secondary class, Fotcher, just

1142
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 4: as in.

1143
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 3: General corner safety, whatever it may be, how do you

1144
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 3: feel like you're landing in the early portions of the process.

1145
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 7: Basically where I'm at, and we're just talking about early

1146
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 7: were just talking about the first round or something like that.

1147
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 7: I think I'm not looking at a whole bunch of safeties, Like,

1148
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 7: all right, I gotta have a safety. Is either Caleb

1149
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 7: downs or all right, let me go look somewhere else.

1150
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 7: That's kind of where I'm at with that. I think

1151
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 7: it's a bunch of corners. I think it's a ton

1152
00:47:55,440 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 7: of corners. Brandon cic is a test well, he said,

1153
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 7: I like him a bunch, said maybe one of the

1154
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 7: ones that like pops out of South Carolina by the way,

1155
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 7: South Carolina, by the way. He and he's like the

1156
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 7: fifth or so guy that I've watched or whatever, and

1157
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 7: I'm just like, yo, he's he's pressing people on the sideline.

1158
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 7: He's running around, he's looking good. He's tall, and he's

1159
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 7: still kind of raw, and he's making plays and all

1160
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 7: this kind of stuff. Coldin Hood, Tennessee. I like him

1161
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 7: a lot, breaking on passes physical as well. Avion Terrell

1162
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 7: probably gonna be like a Nickel type guy in my

1163
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 7: personal opinion, y'all may like him as an outside dude.

1164
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 8: So Clemson, Clemson, apart of me, thank you so much.

1165
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 8: I got you, Uncle. It's it's like, it's it's just

1166
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 8: so much.

1167
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 7: It's just so much cornerback, Like it's just names that

1168
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 7: I like, just so early in my draft film evaluation

1169
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 7: process right now, it's just like, all right, if it's

1170
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 7: continuing to trend in this way, and Nick just gave

1171
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 7: me name Keith Abnue that I haven't watched. I'm just

1172
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 7: watching PFF right here. He's the fortieth overall dude, so

1173
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 7: I'll be watching him next. So if it's another great

1174
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 7: dude that's in this range, maybe it's a whole two

1175
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 7: days worth of good corners we can be looking at.

1176
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 8: But we ain't got the pixel.

1177
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 5: There's a there's a comment here on the YouTube chat tonight.

1178
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 5: I'm curious if y'all's and you know this, if Maligoa

1179
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 5: goes at twelve and then Jamaal McCoy at like nineteen

1180
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 5: or twenty, we would have a lot of fans upset.

1181
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 5: But I think there is a potential there to have

1182
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 5: a lot of fun with that. Maill Francis Maligo right

1183
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 5: tackle out to Miami.

1184
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 6: Oh well, this is like if they went here in Dallas,

1185
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 6: is what you're saying.

1186
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 4: So you take an offensive tackle, I love first.

1187
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 6: Pick and somebody who didn't play last year.

1188
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 5: We would be dealing with a lot of questions from fans.

1189
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 4: There would be some pushback lot sure that.

1190
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 10: Would be if like because when we were listening to

1191
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 10: the end of season press conference yesterday, Stephen Jones was

1192
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 10: talking about like, hey, we're going to stack the board

1193
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 10: the same, We're gonna we're gonna pick the same and

1194
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 10: you know, if there's a guy higher on the board,

1195
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 10: they're going The comparison was, if Ceedee Lamb is there,

1196
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 10: we're going to take Ceedee Lamb. I don't know if

1197
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 10: Francis Mally know is Ceedee Lamb. But if they've got

1198
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 10: guys that are kind of similarly stacked against one another,

1199
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 10: I wouldn't be shocked if they took an offensive lineman

1200
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 10: in this in this year's class.

1201
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 3: I asked those two questions back to back just to

1202
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 3: see him say, we're not going to change anything or

1203
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 3: draft process. I figured that would be the answer, and

1204
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 3: I asked it again, hoping there would be some level

1205
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 3: of change with the two first round picks. Oh, we're

1206
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 3: gonna we're going to really dive in on how we're

1207
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: going to stack it in a more definitive way. And

1208
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 3: the answer that he gave was just kind of an

1209
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 3: a's business as usual. And so that's at least until

1210
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 3: we hear otherwise from somebody else in that front office

1211
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 3: and from Will and Clay.

1212
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 4: That's what we can expect. It's business as usual.

1213
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 3: If it's stacked, you're gonna still look at position of

1214
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 3: need over where these guys are going to be stacked with.

1215
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 7: Damn Cabell has been my draft friends mate. Put him

1216
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 7: next to Tyler book Yo, crazy, beat the hell out

1217
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 7: of air about on nanside crazy.

1218
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 4: So you like that idea.

1219
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 8: I love friends, and I love offensive line, and I.

1220
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 4: Look, I'm supposed to be a defensive show.

1221
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 7: So somebody his name off. I didn't bring his name up.

1222
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 7: I'm just telling you, I like the idea draft to tackle.

1223
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 4: You didn't tell me about him, Let's go for.

1224
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 5: It's a maller, especially in the run game. And he uh,

1225
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 5: he's a guy that has developed under who I think

1226
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 5: is the best offensive line coach in the country and

1227
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 5: Alex Mirraball at Miami.

1228
00:50:59,360 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 15: Uh.

1229
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 5: He's he's just a maller. I love him in the

1230
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 5: run game, pass pro. There's probably gonna be some things

1231
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 5: he's gonna have to pick up. But it's very similar

1232
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 5: to how I view Booker from last year, Whereas like

1233
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 5: Booker was just this maller in the run game, but

1234
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 5: like there was still some footwork stuff with Booker early

1235
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 5: in his time at Alabama that never it wasn't as

1236
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 5: higher on the trajectory of getting better as it was

1237
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 5: with his run game. It's very similar to to Francis here.

1238
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 5: There's gonna have to be some footwork things cleaned up

1239
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 5: here at the next level. But I think this is

1240
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 5: a Day one starter at right tackle, no doubt. It

1241
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 5: would be an upgrade over Terrence Steele today, and.

1242
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 3: Then you could keep guiding at left tackle and kind

1243
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 3: of hope he's the case for the future.

1244
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 6: It's different, and then you would still not stop anybody

1245
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 6: on defense.

1246
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 5: That's exactly right.

1247
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 4: Now you have a decision to make.

1248
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 3: You can either draft a left tackle and move Tyler

1249
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 3: Goydon back to the right tackle where he played at Oklahoma,

1250
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 3: or you can draft the right tackle and hope that

1251
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 3: Tyler Goyton is available because when he was available he

1252
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 3: played okay football.

1253
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 4: Or you just run above average football. You said, well,

1254
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 4: you just.

1255
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 6: Run it back with the crew that you didn't get

1256
00:51:59,000 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 6: an opportunity to play with.

1257
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 4: That's what they Francis give you.

1258
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 5: Could Francis give you one and a half points per

1259
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 5: game more next year.

1260
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 6: Francis can't get me a stop more per game.

1261
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 5: Well, that's not what I'm stop more per.

1262
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 6: Game would have given me five more wins.

1263
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 5: A point and a half would have given maybe given

1264
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 5: you two or three. No, you're right, and I'm one

1265
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 5: hundred percent in the camp. I go for the record.

1266
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 5: I'm one hundred percent in the camp of taking two

1267
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 5: defensive players here, especially if both of those guys make

1268
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 5: sense in those spots. I wouldn't try to wind address

1269
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 5: it in you, but I would almost force some picks here.

1270
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 5: If you have Francis versus c J.

1271
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:31,959
Speaker 4: Allen.

1272
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 5: There, I would probably have Francis higher on my board,

1273
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 5: and people are gonna hate me for this. I would

1274
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 5: take a c. J. Allen because that's where you need it.

1275
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 6: If you're telling me they're going to go through in

1276
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 6: free agency and they're going to get me like five

1277
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 6: starters on defense through free agency, then all right, fine,

1278
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 6: we can talk about Mauigo, but I don't anticipate they're

1279
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 6: gonna do that, and so instead it's just like, you

1280
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 6: gotta find people who can play now on the defensive

1281
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 6: side of the ball and make an impact.

1282
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 3: Where would you want to add in free agency to

1283
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 3: allow you the freedom to do all that?

1284
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 4: Because we talked about it a little off here or earlier.

1285
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 6: To be able to go to like to be able

1286
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 6: to to draft an offensive linean in the first round.

1287
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 6: What would need them to get in free agency?

1288
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 8: Everything?

1289
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 6: Three edge rushers, two linebackers, a safety and of course

1290
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 6: I'm dead serious, three d rushers, two linebackers, a corner in.

1291
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 4: A safety in order to even open the door before

1292
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 4: I'd even.

1293
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 6: Talk about it, yep, Wow, they got a lot of holes.

1294
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 6: This was this was the historically worst defense in NFL

1295
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 6: history when it comes to points for drive, two point

1296
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 6: eight eight points per drive. There's nobody that's been worse

1297
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 6: than the history of the NFL.

1298
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 5: Two linebackers Kenneth Marie and Jalen Smith.

1299
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 6: There you go. Let's get Peyton Wilsper.

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00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 4: To get three guys, you're being an all time hater

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Speaker 4: rage rage bating. What would it take for you, Tommy

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00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 4: something similar?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, pretty much.

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Speaker 10: I don't know if I'd go three edge rushers, but

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00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 10: probably it depends on Clowney is the big one for me.

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00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 10: If that's if he comes back, then yeah, probably two.

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Speaker 6: No, so that's it. So Clowney and two. I just

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Speaker 6: mean I'm assuming guys who are currently free agents. You

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00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 6: could resign guys out.

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Speaker 11: I got it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, then I would probably want one or two more

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00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 10: pass rushers, certainly a linebacker to definitely a veteran corner

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00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 10: and then safety. That's the one where like Nick or

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Speaker 10: whoever was saying earlier, they let go Donovan Wilson, I

1315
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Speaker 10: think that might be a sign of like, hey, we

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Speaker 10: can get downs or if they like some of the

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Speaker 10: other guys in this class, because I think there are

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00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 10: other guys out there you can maybe get later too.

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00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 12: Dylan Vaneman from Oregon.

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00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 10: Emmanuel mcneer mcmarren is the annual Toledo defensive back that's

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Speaker 10: going to be really good in the NFL. Kamari Ramsey

1322
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 10: from USC So there are guys out there that you

1323
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 10: can get at safety and it just kind of depends.

1324
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 10: Is that where you want to spend your capital here

1325
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 10: in this draft? Because you again you don't have a

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Speaker 10: Day two pick. Are you willing to wait until day three?

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00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 5: It's early, But I'm afraid in this draft, if you

1328
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 5: want a safety, you need to go get one early. Yep,

1329
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 5: it's early, don't get me wrong, like it's January. But

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00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 5: I'm afraid if you need one, you better you better

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Speaker 5: be ready to take him.

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Speaker 11: On with you.

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00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 3: So if you pair that with what talked about earlier

1334
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 3: and saying it's see or excuse me, it's blanking on

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00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 3: C six, No downs, it's Caleb downs and then a

1336
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 3: drop off immediately, you.

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00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 4: Might as well just go get Caleb downs at twelve.

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00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,919
Speaker 5: It's there at twelve, I am running butt naked the car. Bet,

1339
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 5: I am good running the card to the table.

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00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 4: Okay, we can figure out a bet there.

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00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 6: No, we can make that out of that.

1342
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 5: No, but that's that's how.

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00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 3: That's how both of you, I know, Nick and Tommy

1344
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,959
Speaker 3: yesterday or tuesday, you guys talked about you don't believe

1345
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 3: he's even.

1346
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 4: Going to be close to twelve. I don't think so.

1347
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 12: I think somebody you'd think.

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00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 10: Again, I'm going to point to my good friend vitem

1349
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 10: know how to draft, but I think somebody is going

1350
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 10: to be smart enough to realize this guy can can

1351
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 10: really change a defense on.

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00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 4: The back end.

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00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 3: All right, when we come back on Tuesday, we're going

1354
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 3: to talk a little bit more offense. We're gonna talk

1355
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 3: to some of the offensive linemen. We're going to talk

1356
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 3: about the draft because it's not always about Cowboys, it's

1357
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 3: not always about what Dallas is going to do. We

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00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 3: pride ourselves in just outlining what the draft looks like

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00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 3: as a whole because when we get into it. Plus,

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00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 3: I want somebody at home, maybe one of the listeners

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00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 3: that's good with graphic design. I want somebody to make

1362
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 3: a checklist of Bobby just outlined I was three three

1363
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 3: defensive linemen, two linebackers, and how what was it in

1364
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 3: the secondary?

1365
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 6: Three edge, two linebackers? Is a safety in a corner

1366
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 6: save minute?

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00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 3: More So, give me the check boxes, and we're gonna

1368
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 3: keep up with it as time goes on. If they

1369
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 3: bring all those guys back, then we can talk about

1370
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 3: offensive line for Dallas.

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Speaker 7: In the first round, I'm drafting the offensive lineman. I'll

1372
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 7: draft Jeremiah Love. I don't care nothing about this check Liz.

1373
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 7: I take the best dude and live at believe.

1374
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 4: Jeremiah Love notre Dame running back today running. He's a badass.

1375
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 4: He is super fun.

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00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 5: I think better than gentym because I say no, and

1377
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 5: I don't think he's better than Jean. I don't think

1378
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 5: he's better Thaneer gives.

1379
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 8: That's why we can get him midwe. That's why we

1380
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 8: can get him mid twe.

1381
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 5: Is he better than Amaron Hampton?

1382
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't think so. I think so.

1383
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 6: I don't think so.

1384
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 4: I think he's right in that mix. He's not better

1385
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 4: than the first name draft.

1386
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 5: Every draft is different.

1387
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 3: Every draft is definitely different. All Right, that does it

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Speaker 3: for us here on the Draft Show. I hope you

1389
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 3: have fun that with our first week of episodes. We'll

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Speaker 3: be back on Tuesday, eleven am Central Time for watch Lombardi,

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Speaker 3: Nick Harris, Tommy Aarrish, Bobby Bell, Chris in the back

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00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 3: of KYLEI.

1393
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 4: Yeoman saying so long from the Draft show. We'll see

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Speaker 4: you Tuesday.

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