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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Second hour of The Clay Travis and

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show here already, everybody, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Great to have you, and if you've been listening, appreciated

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Speaker 1: the time as always, because we've got so much to

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Speaker 1: get to the situation in Ukraine. You still have the

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Speaker 1: fight underway for Ukrainian cities, notably Mariupol on the Sea

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Speaker 1: of Azov in the southeast of Ukraine, Kiev, the capitol,

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Speaker 1: and the center north of the country increasingly circled encircled

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Speaker 1: by Russian forces. And you'll note that there's still a

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Speaker 1: lot of debate, a lot of discussion going on in

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Speaker 1: this country about what the full extent of our involvement

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Speaker 1: should be. Although it has moved away from two weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: it seemed that no fly zone was gaining some momentum

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Speaker 1: in the conversation. People were saying, we need to give

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Speaker 1: F eighteens, even some Republicans. Recently we're out. Some Republican

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Speaker 1: governors said that we should give FA teens to Ukraine

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Speaker 1: so they can prosecute a more effective air war against

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Speaker 1: the Russian invader. Number of governors have been over to Poland.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is over in Europe right now, I believe,

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Speaker 1: and he is going to be announcing new sanctions against

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Speaker 1: Russia shortly, so increasing the economic pain on Russia. And

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Speaker 1: in the meantime you have discussions about what are the

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Speaker 1: Russians going to do. On the one hand, Clay, there's

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Speaker 1: still a back and forth over whether the Russian offensive

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Speaker 1: is stalled or if it is just proceeding as a bloody,

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Speaker 1: massive military campaign wood which is slowly, methodically and brutally,

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Speaker 1: or is this a possibility, Is this a moment where

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Speaker 1: there could be a turning of the tide against the Russians.

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Speaker 1: Here's the former four star general and former CIA director

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Speaker 1: this threat that we have to be aware of Russia

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Speaker 1: using a nuclear weapon because of the stalemate. Vladimir Putin

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Speaker 1: spokesman Dmitri Peskov acknowledged today that Vladimir Putin hasn't achieved

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Speaker 1: his aims in Ukraine and also refused to rule out

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Speaker 1: the use of nuclear weapons if Russia faces an existential threat.

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Speaker 1: What is yourn assessment of those two very significant comments?

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Speaker 1: From someone so close to the Russian leader. It's an

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Speaker 1: extraordinary admission from someone close to President Putin, and it's

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Speaker 1: really quite an extraordinary effort to rattle the nuclear saber

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Speaker 1: once again. Having heard Vladimir Putin do that himself a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, it's quite worrisome. It's quite worrisome.

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Speaker 1: The former four star here General Petreus former General Petreya

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Speaker 1: says about this, Clay, I think right now what we're

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Speaker 1: of this country that short of a massive escalation of

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Speaker 1: I should say, of our involvement in some capacity, which

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Speaker 1: would be something like a no fly zone, this is

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Speaker 1: and Russians. And you can, on the one hand say, well,

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Speaker 1: maybe a no fly zone wouldn't be that big a deal,

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Speaker 1: and on the other have people who I mean, General

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Speaker 1: Petraeus is a smart guy. He's obviously had his challenges

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Speaker 1: I think the American people buy and large still just

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Speaker 1: don't want us to be in another war, and even

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Speaker 1: the Biden administration seems aware of that. It feels to

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Speaker 1: me Buck as if Ukraine and Russia is moving outside

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Speaker 1: And we talked about this early on, how long would

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Speaker 1: Right Initially it was, oh, are we going to see

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Speaker 1: Are we going to see him killed? There were a

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Speaker 1: lot of different captivating storylines in the initial days of

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Speaker 1: cyber attack here in America. So I think that's one

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Speaker 1: area we all want to be very cognizant of exactly

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Speaker 1: seem like this war has been brought home to us.

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Speaker 1: Here's Biden. I think this was just yesterday saying that

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Speaker 1: we could any moment now, Clay, we meaning America could

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Speaker 1: get hit with a massive cyber attack from Russia. Today,

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Speaker 1: my administration issuing new warnings that, based on evolving intelligence,

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Speaker 1: Russia maybe planning a cyber attack against US. As I said,

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Speaker 1: the magnitude of Russia's cyber capacity is fairly consequential, and

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Speaker 1: it's coming. The federal government is doing its part to

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Speaker 1: get ready. But under US law, as you all remember,

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Speaker 1: the private sector, all of you largely the size the

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Speaker 1: protections that is we will or will not take. Let's

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Speaker 1: just big private sector cyber attack is coming. Biden, the

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Speaker 1: President says, it's mostly on the private sector. So good

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Speaker 1: luck dealing with that. And by the way, I want

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Speaker 1: also when he was boarding Marine one, just sort of

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Speaker 1: throw into the mix, talking reporter, Yeah, maybe Russia's gonna

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Speaker 1: use chemical weapons here. Threat. I think it's a real threat.

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Speaker 1: It's a real threat. They may use chemical weapons, getting

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Speaker 1: ready for a massive cyber attack. They're saber rattling around nukes. Notice, Clay,

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Speaker 1: just in the span of two weeks, it's gone from

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Speaker 1: my gosh, they might actually cyber attack us in the

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Speaker 1: a shift in tone from the regime. Well in Russia

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Speaker 1: attempting to show strength. Because however this situation ends up resolving,

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Speaker 1: What do you think then? What does the international community do?

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Speaker 1: I think there is an immediate call for or something

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Speaker 1: some kind of military response. You think you think we

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Speaker 1: think it would accelerate demands for NATO and international support

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Speaker 1: Don't accept simplistic narratives, because that's what often happens in

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Speaker 1: then beyond that, I would say, Clay, just the recognition

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Speaker 1: But here he is admitting this war is not going

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Speaker 1: will not end easily or rapidly. For the past few months,

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Speaker 1: to send a powerful message, to send a powerful message

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Speaker 1: play that's what we're sending messages. Sure, we're taking economic action,

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Speaker 1: the Ukrainians fighting magnificently, Yeah, brave, great, fantastic, We're rooting

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Speaker 1: when you hear Jake Sullivan talk buck, do you immediately

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Speaker 1: Those people that we were fighting with, those people that

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Speaker 1: America first legal Stephen, there was just a story a

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Speaker 1: If our southern border was covered with even one tenth

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Speaker 1: tens of thousands of people throughout our hemisphere if you

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Speaker 1: include drugs, which you must include hundreds of thousands of

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Speaker 1: is apocalyptic. The word disaster, catastrophe, calamity, crisis doesn't come

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Speaker 1: close to describing what's coming our way. We've already had

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Speaker 1: So we're going to go from the highest level since

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Speaker 1: even know about, to some other greater, even higher, more

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Speaker 1: unimaginable figure. That's apocalyptic. That's country ending, that continues for

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Speaker 1: a few years, and the damage is going to be

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Speaker 1: done to our nation will be irrevocable. Stephen Miller, formally

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Speaker 1: advisor to President Trump. Now the America First Legal Stephen,

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Speaker 1: appreciate the expertise, Sir, thanks so much for being with us.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be joined by Donald Trump Junior here at

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Speaker 1: the top of the next hour. And I would say,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna call this a little bit earlier. Get

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Speaker 1: have a few things to say about Hunter Biden and

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Speaker 1: how he thinks the media has treated Hunter Biden compared

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Speaker 1: to how he and his siblings have been treated. And

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, I think that could get a

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Speaker 1: little bit spicy. So get your popcorn. Get ready. He

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Speaker 1: will be up in a little over ten minutes from now.

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Speaker 1: But Buck, when we were just talking with Stephen Miller

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Speaker 1: that the border is the single biggest weakness for Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden among a bevy of weaknesses. Right. I mean, we're

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Speaker 1: not talking about Joe Biden having a lot of positive

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Speaker 1: things that he's able to sell right now. But what's

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Speaker 1: for Democrats who see what's going on, and the border

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Speaker 1: issues are not in any way helpful with Hispanic people.

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Speaker 1: At all, which was the argument that it would be

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Speaker 1: and I just thought some of the data on it

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Speaker 1: think about how quickly we've gone from buck you remember this,

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Speaker 1: the Hispanic vote is going to guarantee that the Democratic

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Speaker 1: Party wins every election for years and years into the future,

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Speaker 1: to the point now where there really isn't that occurring,

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Speaker 1: And in fact, there are people now projecting that in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, it's possible the majority of the Hispanic

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Speaker 1: vote is going to go for Republicans quickly. That's moved.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that that really? I look, obviously it could.

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Speaker 1: We're predicting the future here. That would be earthquake in

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Speaker 1: politics level stuff. If you actually had a majority of

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Speaker 1: the most recent Wall Street Journal poll, and again it's

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Speaker 1: It had Republicans in front with Hispanic voters, which has

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Speaker 1: never happened before, and I believe the numbers that have

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Speaker 1: come out so far for Hispanic voters. In Barack Obama's

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Speaker 1: final year, seventy one percent of Hispanic voters voted for

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Speaker 1: Barack Obama, and then in twenty sixteen, Trump actually improved

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Speaker 1: on those numbers. By twenty twenty, Democrats only got Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden only got fifty per six percent of the Hispanic vote.

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Speaker 1: So by that point it's fifty six forty four. Even

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Speaker 1: with all the people, all the negative attention coming to Trump,

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Speaker 1: it would not stun me if the Hispanic vote breaks

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Speaker 1: for Republicans in twenty twenty two. It is fascinating. One

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Speaker 1: many of them don't actually like an open border um

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Speaker 1: the ones who came here legally. Now, there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of people who have family members who are illegal,

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Speaker 1: and that can often affect voting patterns. You know, if

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Speaker 1: you if you if your dad is illegal but you

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Speaker 1: And so there are other areas though as well, where

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Speaker 1: you can already start to see how this is happening

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Speaker 1: that the data that you're speaking of, Clay, why it

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Speaker 1: would go that way. The BLM movement and the riots

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Speaker 1: they saw that for what it was the riots, you know,

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Speaker 1: then and then the riots involved a lot of actually

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Speaker 1: white liberals from Antifa, but you know, Hispanics saw that

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Speaker 1: and said, hold on a second, what the heck is

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Speaker 1: they've really kind of laughed off this Latin X thing

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Speaker 1: that they've been trying to do. I was going to

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Speaker 1: but I just know this stuff from knowing from knowing latinos.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're like, oh, no, don't call us latin X.

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Speaker 1: What is this? What's it saying? The piece? Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I was reading it this morning, and and the latin

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Speaker 1: Um commonly used by the reading directly from the article,

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Speaker 1: sign of gender inclusivity. Latin X is virtually non existent

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Speaker 1: in the communities it refers to. In twenty twenty, Pure

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Speaker 1: And I misspoke a little bit. I want to get

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Speaker 1: the numbers right here. It was seventy one percent Obama,

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Speaker 1: sixty six percent Hillary. That's twenty twelve, twenty sixteen, yeas

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Speaker 1: fifty nine percent for Biden, so fifty nine forty one.

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Speaker 1: But according to the Wall Street Journal poll that recently

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Speaker 1: a while. If you remember Biden got crushed in Nevada.

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Speaker 1: Remember there are a lot of Hispanic voters in the primary,

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Speaker 1: and that's when a lot of people said Biden's campaign

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Speaker 1: is over. Then he can back to South Carolina. Got

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Speaker 1: endorsed by Clybrary voters. African American Democrat primary voters delivered

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden the nomination. That's ACRAT party. Without without them

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Speaker 1: which is I think is still the most broadly people

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Speaker 1: in the polling areas of concern at on top of

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Speaker 1: you know, look like I said, Clay, it has to

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Speaker 1: this mid term. It has to be a total annihilation

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Speaker 1: of Democrats everywhere where. It's conceivable at the polls. Well,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of Hispanic listeners right now. They understand

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Speaker 1: the importance of capitalism. They came here because of American excellence,

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Speaker 1: Where are those people going to vote? I think they

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Speaker 1: twenty two they're going to send a seismic message to

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Speaker 1: this country about how inclusive and wide and appealing the

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Speaker 1: Republican message has really become. We'll talk about that more.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trumps Junior Next. Play Travis and Buck Sexton on

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