Speaker 1: And money. Well, thank take valiche. We are the authorities
Speaker 1: all things, and ladies and gentlemen, what's going on? My
Speaker 1: name is Tank and this is the Army Money Podcast.
Speaker 1: The authority. Oh all things are and b yes, yes,
Speaker 1: because we have a man in the building, a prolific
Speaker 1: human being, well studied, well first, successful as well as gifted.
Speaker 1: He's a monster and he getting to the money ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen. Army producer, hip hop producer, dance hall producer,
Speaker 1: AfroB producer, a super producer and songwriter. I think he
Speaker 1: got vocal suit in the building. How many eight money? Sam?
Speaker 1: What's kind of what's that? Listen? Actually sound like the drop?
Speaker 1: I got to talk to him about this. Remember how
Speaker 1: publish people fall out about this kind of stuff. Um,
Speaker 1: first of all, I don't like you. Let's start there.
Speaker 1: We're gonna start right there. I mean, the first time
Speaker 1: I heard about you, I heard these two Chris Brown songs.
Speaker 1: Who did that? Who did that? And why did you
Speaker 1: do that? Why did you do all of that? I
Speaker 1: could have left some of that shot out, could have
Speaker 1: left some room for other people to produce more songs
Speaker 1: on the album. Your songs clearly by far stood out
Speaker 1: on that album as something completely different and something we
Speaker 1: hadn't heard before. I was upset because I only get
Speaker 1: upset when it's some ship I wish I could have done.
Speaker 1: I wish I would have done. I listened to it
Speaker 1: and it was so so much information. I said, funk,
Speaker 1: I just gotta find I can't do it. Snow wouldn't
Speaker 1: bear to do it. I gotta I gotta find him.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. You are super, super duper appreciate that gifted.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. This is a flowers this
Speaker 1: is a flowers pod, this is a flowers space. So
Speaker 1: I had to get the hate out of my heart first.
Speaker 1: Remember when I first met you, I had the same
Speaker 1: kind of expression, but for a reasons though, so prior
Speaker 1: to my success. Chris Brown, he was standing outside I've
Speaker 1: been in l a maybe like a month, and he
Speaker 1: was standing outside the rucks. He had just tore the
Speaker 1: rucksy down and he was just standing outside and I'm
Speaker 1: looking at I'm gonna side out there after he does
Speaker 1: it show Yeah. So I'm looking at I'm like, why
Speaker 1: is type just standing out here? Like yeah? So I like, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: He's like, oh it's that man, You're good, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't like you. So it's the same
Speaker 1: kind of ine, all right, so so and he's like
Speaker 1: what I said, not in a bad way, but in
Speaker 1: a bad way. Sex, love and pain too messed up
Speaker 1: my relationship. And he's like, what do you mean? He said?
Speaker 1: My eggs girlfriend said she used to feel uncomfortable when
Speaker 1: I would play the album in the house. I said,
Speaker 1: my nigg you'd be sucking my go that. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, And I was like, I can't play the
Speaker 1: album no more. I would play every once in a
Speaker 1: while when I needed to try and get freaky. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I didn't like him for that because I
Speaker 1: was like, every time I would play, I was right,
Speaker 1: you get in there, you work that, you change positions. Now,
Speaker 1: this is a good time in between songs. Yeah, get it.
Speaker 1: Like the porn start announcer, that's what my music done.
Speaker 1: Do they have, No, they don't, But that's what my
Speaker 1: music done. I'm gonna be real. I'm would be real.
Speaker 1: Your records are the records that people I go to anyway.
Speaker 1: Just you, my homie. It's about pregnancy. My music. My
Speaker 1: music is about skin on skin relationships. You understand what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if you are putting anything between you and
Speaker 1: that other body, you are disrespecting the music completely. Just
Speaker 1: skin on skin whatever could roll the dice when my
Speaker 1: music come on. Okay, this podcast is not brought to
Speaker 1: you by whatever kind of what are though? No, no
Speaker 1: listen I kind of brands. I'll promote you, Okay, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I will not. You will not suffocate me. What people
Speaker 1: gotta breathe. He should be breathing. Man, man, it's to
Speaker 1: be here now I've listen. It's a blessing. I'm on
Speaker 1: you both a decade plus easy and I would say
Speaker 1: some of the most uh influential mentoring. You both mentored
Speaker 1: me in different ways. We used to share studio grounds.
Speaker 1: We would each other's room all the time. Um, I
Speaker 1: think I think certain relationships UH off for a season,
Speaker 1: and in certain relationships they last forever. Whether we talk
Speaker 1: every day or we don't talk at all, it's like
Speaker 1: it's like we never left. And and you know, I've
Speaker 1: learned so much from your both your careers and your relationship.
Speaker 1: Because that's another thing. Y'all been tight friends, brothers, business partners.
Speaker 1: It's hard to find people who can stick together through
Speaker 1: it all. You know what I'm saying, and uh, and
Speaker 1: I think that that's been a big, big influence on
Speaker 1: me man, both of you all. He he he made
Speaker 1: a play in my life that to this day, I
Speaker 1: sold up. I was able to sell a million records
Speaker 1: independently because this man made a phone call. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, which was Major's why I love you
Speaker 1: and I always appreciate you for that to a million
Speaker 1: shout out anything anything that's hard, especially with R and B. Listen,
Speaker 1: R and B and a person no one knew, absolutely
Speaker 1: for you to have a platinum record with a new
Speaker 1: artist in R and B music, amazing, amazing, amazing. But
Speaker 1: he and you made that call. He came to the studio.
Speaker 1: That record was the first Leston. That record was the
Speaker 1: first lesson. I couldn't leave the studio without being some
Speaker 1: part of something, you know what I mean. You knew
Speaker 1: he said what you want to do? He's like, how
Speaker 1: can I help you? I said, I've been to every
Speaker 1: record executive. They don't want it. They don't want him here,
Speaker 1: you don't they loved the records. They want him, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And I was like this this
Speaker 1: guy called Gazi, he was like that's my boy. You
Speaker 1: drinking called in shout the juice friends, shouting out everybody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, shout out. Today is today's promo. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: got I have a juice bar. Man. It's called Urban Juice.
Speaker 1: Shot juice. Congratulations, brother, I had. There's a juice called
Speaker 1: the Valentine. Yeah, it's the one is you know you
Speaker 1: want to get you so back to hold my juice.
Speaker 1: He really got his own juice on man um. You know,
Speaker 1: flowers was gonna get you flowers keep flowers. I heard
Speaker 1: there with gifts for us, you know, I heard that
Speaker 1: some form of a flower. Yeah. I think it's disrespectful
Speaker 1: to come into the homes of people I look up
Speaker 1: to without gifts. And so just like he got your
Speaker 1: juice bar. You know, God bless me to you know,
Speaker 1: invest in some things. And now we own a tequila
Speaker 1: cool Willow Willow f v U E l o UM.
Speaker 1: I pondered up with them about three years ago. We've
Speaker 1: been working on this brand for a few years and
Speaker 1: now we were killing it. We're killing it. We just
Speaker 1: won one of the biggest competitions in California and I'll
Speaker 1: REPRESENTO and yeah hoo for you. Ye give it in. Okay,
Speaker 1: check out the brand switch because one is light. I
Speaker 1: don't want to say it. I'm gonna give it the
Speaker 1: Compson in. You give it up. Let me just look
Speaker 1: at it. Yeah, just so thank you guys for having
Speaker 1: me on this. You know what I'm saying, Guys, go check.
Speaker 1: I don't know what does that help? That's a real
Speaker 1: that's I'm gonna. You know what's phony tequila. It's we're gonna,
Speaker 1: We're gonna, We're gonna, yeah crack that one tank is
Speaker 1: the kind of source. So I'm whatever he I'm rolling
Speaker 1: with y'all. I'm rolling with y'all. Yeah. No, But but
Speaker 1: back to back to our homie man, back to back
Speaker 1: to major, back to major, and you believing in that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, in his project and believing
Speaker 1: in him as an artist and fighting for him because
Speaker 1: that that just doesn't happen all the time in this
Speaker 1: industry where you know, we get to a point right
Speaker 1: where we all have to deal with a lot of nose.
Speaker 1: But then we get to a level in this game
Speaker 1: where it's more yes than though. This guy's crazy, where
Speaker 1: it's more yes than though. So once you get to
Speaker 1: that level, a lot of executives and producers walk away
Speaker 1: from things that they that they get told no on
Speaker 1: because they don't want to be associated with the no.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, you want to be that
Speaker 1: guy that can walk anything through at anybody. You know,
Speaker 1: whatever you bring through the rolling where sir? So, what
Speaker 1: was what for you? What was the motivation uh to
Speaker 1: keep you going with an artist that you were being
Speaker 1: told no about? Um? Firstly, I'm a builder like uh,
Speaker 1: as a creative. Everything I own I built, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I built my studio, I build beat,
Speaker 1: I build records. And because I'm a builder, that means
Speaker 1: I have to find things that need building, right, I
Speaker 1: have to find artists that need help being built. You
Speaker 1: know your d M is about to go crazy. Build me,
Speaker 1: build me your blood, um and so, but that's always
Speaker 1: been my thing. You know what I mean? I mean
Speaker 1: your company b O E Empire. But show you let
Speaker 1: me get let me get on this. I mean, shout
Speaker 1: out to this beautiful last Lord Mercy and put some
Speaker 1: ice in that. I mean, yes, sir, And this is
Speaker 1: a nice podcasting, nice glasses to look out for. Vibe
Speaker 1: is so beautiful, it's all beat something say that again,
Speaker 1: that's R and B and everything R and B is
Speaker 1: like differently, I'm not doing this at you. I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm just in your direction. No, I got you, Bros.
Speaker 1: R and B. And that's what got me into R
Speaker 1: and B. You know what I mean, just the flyness
Speaker 1: of it all, you know, I mean it were the
Speaker 1: coolest genre. Yeah, it is the coolest genre. Other people
Speaker 1: might be, they might be more shiny to the point
Speaker 1: where hip hop has now turned R and B. But
Speaker 1: that's a conversation for later. We can talk about you.
Speaker 1: You're burst and all of it. You do all of it.
Speaker 1: That's a conversation there. But we've major back to major
Speaker 1: when I met him, right, I got some on it. Yeah, Alien,
Speaker 1: give it to me, give it to come on, come on,
Speaker 1: what you're talking about? It all is what we do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got extra one for you in the car. I
Speaker 1: got you, got in the car, got you and it's well, well,
Speaker 1: look at me learning Spanish. That's not even that's not
Speaker 1: even the big one. Extra and my brother, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: my brother, yes, sir, this is exceptional Tequi. We appreciate it.
Speaker 1: To my boy Breven, he's the brains behind this is exceptional, sir. Tequila.
Speaker 1: It stands in line. This is the sits at the
Speaker 1: table with the tequilas with the mine that I drink. Yes, sir, okay, alright,
Speaker 1: and listen. It's not a big table. I don't know
Speaker 1: about to keep it. But it's a drink that tastes
Speaker 1: good to me. It's a small taste, not that big.
Speaker 1: Of only three tequilas, not that big. Yours is number three.
Speaker 1: It's up there, Bro, it's up there. That's a big
Speaker 1: that's a big. Doors is up there with a five
Speaker 1: hundred dollar tequila. Sir. The only sits about this big, Sir.
Speaker 1: I know exactly what we're not showing out. I don't
Speaker 1: know those I don't know those people. I'm not shouting.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, let's get it, bro, appreciate that. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: don't endorsement money, Like, what are we doing? Do you
Speaker 1: need brand ambassadors? Of course we do. That's why I
Speaker 1: brought the buttloover so we can have that conversation after
Speaker 1: the podcast. Like it. I like it. Back to the music,
Speaker 1: Back to music, back major. You know. One of the
Speaker 1: things about so, me and Tank, we all we all
Speaker 1: three of us come from the church background, so we
Speaker 1: understand how okay, you give me church vibes differ just tabna,
Speaker 1: that's right. Church. I don't even know what that means.
Speaker 1: But give me God vibes. I believe in. Give me God.
Speaker 1: Believe there's a there's a thing that that works with God,
Speaker 1: faith and what you believe in right when you're working.
Speaker 1: And so when I met Major, I had no desire
Speaker 1: to sign him as an artist because we were just
Speaker 1: I was playing at one church that was the music
Speaker 1: director there and Major was on the washer team. But
Speaker 1: he would sing his butt off and sing like he
Speaker 1: would sing and I would just see people like emotional,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, I'm the one that you
Speaker 1: playing the piano, thinking this can't be where it ends
Speaker 1: for him on on the church stage. He got it,
Speaker 1: there's more to this. And God was like, yeah, you're
Speaker 1: gonna help him get there. And I was like, I
Speaker 1: was like, I that was a me requesting. I was
Speaker 1: just saying and so and then I was like, no,
Speaker 1: it's on you. And so he put me on that
Speaker 1: path and then you know, we started working together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got knows from everybody. I mean it was like
Speaker 1: there was people who play games with us. There's people
Speaker 1: who you know. It was like, we'll take the songs,
Speaker 1: but it was just always something. And the worst part
Speaker 1: was I was succeeding as a music producer, so I
Speaker 1: was doing on the grand day, I'm working with Christal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was working with a lot of people, and so
Speaker 1: it was weird for me that I couldn't, you know,
Speaker 1: cross him into that space. And then then I realized
Speaker 1: like we had a problem. The problem was we needed
Speaker 1: a song that would identify him because he was new
Speaker 1: and the one powerful thing that Major has, as we
Speaker 1: all know, is his voice. So I was like, we
Speaker 1: gotta find and a year prior to that, John Legend
Speaker 1: had just gone number one with all of me m M,
Speaker 1: and I said, we gotta do something like this that
Speaker 1: highlights your voice and nothing else. Right, think you're sexy
Speaker 1: because you think he's said sometimes be doing that. He
Speaker 1: been trying to highlight the ship. Me, Sean, my brother,
Speaker 1: my brother met Hey listen, listen when when he started
Speaker 1: getting R and B money yeah came out no, no,
Speaker 1: but everybody almost we're gonna amost see your belly. Bro.
Speaker 1: He's like made was like when get up from Man,
Speaker 1: I got that made Major. You can send me a
Speaker 1: customer shirt man helped send me a customer shop. Right,
Speaker 1: you should get a customer sho custom You got the plan,
Speaker 1: got him, he's got to get a new one. I
Speaker 1: gotta black, they gotta give me. I got to go plan.
Speaker 1: You got the platinum plack now, all right, so let
Speaker 1: me let's do this. And I think that this the
Speaker 1: major story, um, along with the building of your empire,
Speaker 1: is going to play a big part in this conversation.
Speaker 1: But I really want to go all the way back
Speaker 1: to the beginning, right, Um. I hate your accent, but um,
Speaker 1: I just wanted his accent, like you know, you know
Speaker 1: what I could do with that accent aition in the world.
Speaker 1: I'm scared of you. I think you too confident a
Speaker 1: little bit, just smell just a little bit. I don't
Speaker 1: think you would even live in You don't think I
Speaker 1: would know. I don't know where you would live. He
Speaker 1: tired me already. We just started many h money, Samuel's
Speaker 1: We like to go back to the beginning, Yes, like
Speaker 1: where it started? Where did what was the moment? We
Speaker 1: also like the snack and ship. Yeah, you can eat snacks.
Speaker 1: You don't one to Mike Ruben hate that all right? Um,
Speaker 1: We want to go back to the beginning, to where
Speaker 1: you said to yourself, oh shoot, I got something, or
Speaker 1: somebody said to you, I got something, boy, you got
Speaker 1: something something. There's a few, there's a few moments. But
Speaker 1: um born and raised in London by Nigerian parents who
Speaker 1: were strict to ship. I mean they were so strict, bro,
Speaker 1: Like I had bad checks in the morning, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And like when y'a was leaving to
Speaker 1: go to school, everything's in here, what's in your back?
Speaker 1: And if there was anything outside of what was supposed
Speaker 1: to be in there, it's my ass. Like my dad
Speaker 1: was a discipline arean man. He was a strong dude.
Speaker 1: And my mama didn't play anither. So when they found
Speaker 1: out I had a musical gift, they freaked out immediately
Speaker 1: because there was like, oh hell no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no, you're not doing that. You go
Speaker 1: into school because we immigrants and we ain't got we
Speaker 1: ain't got a portupis in you ben to figure this out.
Speaker 1: And they were on me and so and I'm the
Speaker 1: oldest of four and so as I got to y'all
Speaker 1: called high school, we called the secondary school. I'm like
Speaker 1: thirteen years old. I'm playing four or five instruments at
Speaker 1: this point, so I'm playing piano, drums, bassed keys. No,
Speaker 1: it's at church the only place I could touch him.
Speaker 1: So I had to learn. Now. My parents were broke
Speaker 1: trying to figure out. My dad had too three jobs.
Speaker 1: My mother was looking after the kids at home because
Speaker 1: it's you know, just three of us and at the time,
Speaker 1: and um, the only time they would allow me near
Speaker 1: the instrument is in church. Now my dream. My school teachers, yo,
Speaker 1: your son is gifted. He he was singing. He would
Speaker 1: I would sing harmonies. They were like, how do you
Speaker 1: know how to do this? And I mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: even five six at this point, I'm playing drums on
Speaker 1: the table, and then I'm even playing drums in church.
Speaker 1: My parents just woke up one morning. We go to
Speaker 1: church and then there's no drummer on the at the drums.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of weird because like there's a whole
Speaker 1: band playing but no drums, and then they just see
Speaker 1: me going to drums and start playing along. I began
Speaker 1: a drummer and that's how I started playing. And so
Speaker 1: I have this thing about learning by sight. And by
Speaker 1: twelve years thirteen years old, I'm going to secondary school
Speaker 1: and I could play five instruments, and my music teachers like,
Speaker 1: how you you know I had to do that? Like,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't know. It's just a gift.
Speaker 1: I can hear and see like I hear it and
Speaker 1: I see it like or wherever it is. If I
Speaker 1: see you playing an instrument, I'm learning and how you
Speaker 1: are you playing? Saying I'm downloading everything and once I
Speaker 1: get my hand on it, I'm gonna figure it out. Um.
Speaker 1: And once I figured out the number system, it was
Speaker 1: cutains for everybody, um, and you know that. So thirteen
Speaker 1: years old, I go, it's my first year in secondary
Speaker 1: school or high school, and I walked into my music
Speaker 1: class and I'm like I'm excited, just like, yes, I
Speaker 1: got what's my music? She you're gonna have me do? So.
Speaker 1: She has this computer and it was called the notator.
Speaker 1: Remember that, yes right now, it's actually cooled logic now
Speaker 1: in the in the nineties was called notator. I've never
Speaker 1: seen it before. There was a notator and they had
Speaker 1: floppy disks and she had like this, she had a
Speaker 1: cassio keyboard in front of it, and she started programming like.
Speaker 1: She showed me how you're like, oh, you know, you
Speaker 1: can compose your own songs and close your music and
Speaker 1: she started playing each instrument, you know, recording as we do.
Speaker 1: I stood there because I had never seen it before.
Speaker 1: I stood there in amazement for at least thirty men this.
Speaker 1: I said, Miss Ryan, how the hell did you do that? Said?
Speaker 1: You know, you just you select the track you want,
Speaker 1: you press record. You played the instrument and I said,
Speaker 1: so I can be my own band. She said yeah.
Speaker 1: I said, Nick, I'm sure you didn't say that, but no,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure yeah, yeah, school bro. It was like
Speaker 1: a crackhead with a bag of coke. Ye. I lost
Speaker 1: my freaking mind, I said, okay. It went from me
Speaker 1: being at every lunch time to being at every lunch
Speaker 1: time and off the school. Then she started giving me
Speaker 1: the key. I was in that room for two years straight,
Speaker 1: so I've gone from year to year. And she came
Speaker 1: in one day and it was like eight in the morning.
Speaker 1: She was like, why are you here so early? I said,
Speaker 1: I just had to get this idea, said you've been
Speaker 1: here a lot, play me something, and I play her
Speaker 1: one of my ideas. She looked at me. She said,
Speaker 1: you made this, and I play another one. She's like,
Speaker 1: you made this, She said, Harmony, you need to really
Speaker 1: go to school for this, said you may have the
Speaker 1: ability to be a great composer or producer. I was like,
Speaker 1: who's that? And what is that? Who's there? Because I'm like,
Speaker 1: are your parents on board at this point? Now? My
Speaker 1: parents were never on board until I broke So my
Speaker 1: parents they never were at this point. At this point,
Speaker 1: they just think I'm going to school. They don't they
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm doing in school. And because my
Speaker 1: I had heard my teacher as a ally, she would
Speaker 1: always value for me. He's because so just that's all
Speaker 1: I needed, Bro, she said, go look at what the
Speaker 1: producer was. The first person I looked up was Quincy Jones.
Speaker 1: I mean it starts there and like, I'm off to
Speaker 1: the flame. Man. It's just it became my mission and
Speaker 1: in my brain, I mean, I lied to every person
Speaker 1: because I didn't want them to know that was what
Speaker 1: I was going to become a music producer. And Bro,
Speaker 1: I made track off the track and then I was like,
Speaker 1: I can put melody and lyrics. So I was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm doing a hundred per centers. At this point, I'm
Speaker 1: twenty years old and I'm like, I finally someone just
Speaker 1: someone out there blue in my church. And you know
Speaker 1: I always tell people from yeah, because I mean, like,
Speaker 1: from thirteen to twenty, all I could do was create, create,
Speaker 1: because what people don't understand about London is one of
Speaker 1: the most creative places in the world, one of the
Speaker 1: only places where I see genres being made over and
Speaker 1: over again, you know what I mean, like like in
Speaker 1: my face, like oh, this is a new genre. This,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, like from beats me so for me.
Speaker 1: But it's a trap too. It was very It was
Speaker 1: very trapped because there was no outlets for us. Like
Speaker 1: one thing you have in America is black Americans have
Speaker 1: fought to have a voice in in in the UK,
Speaker 1: we fought, but we didn't have that voice. No matter
Speaker 1: how much we tried to get one, they would shut
Speaker 1: it down. It was very systemic because it was a
Speaker 1: lot smaller too. And so we let's think about how
Speaker 1: many R and B X we had those times, how
Speaker 1: many R and B superstars. We didn't have that many.
Speaker 1: It was very limited, and that's because we didn't have
Speaker 1: an outlet. And whenever you know. But you know the
Speaker 1: craziest part, not even British people didn't know he was American.
Speaker 1: He was. He was British for the longest because he
Speaker 1: sounded so American to y'all, was like, yeah, we we
Speaker 1: just knew that he was. We just knew that this
Speaker 1: isn't regular British records, right, do you what the sand
Speaker 1: I mean? And you know I worked with even Uncle
Speaker 1: mar Markey b you know so too soul. Like I've
Speaker 1: been around all of them, and there was we were
Speaker 1: influenced by American music heavily, but we didn't have an outlet.
Speaker 1: We didn't have out so all I could do is
Speaker 1: create and hold these hold these these feelings inside. And
Speaker 1: I was like, one day I'm gonna crack this. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna crack this colde. I'm gonna figure it out how
Speaker 1: to balance between being from here and affecting the States,
Speaker 1: because crack in America was the most important thing for
Speaker 1: any British artist if you were black, Cracking America from
Speaker 1: Craig David all the way down to Sho MAXI Priest,
Speaker 1: these are British guys, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: Cracking America was important if you cracked America. I feel
Speaker 1: like he keeps saying crackhead America, cracking America, breaking, and
Speaker 1: so so what I could do for for the longest.
Speaker 1: And then I interned for years, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: at studios, cleaning floors, laying on the floor in the UK,
Speaker 1: and I would watch you know, Selene, Selene Dion's producer,
Speaker 1: Chris neil Um, Marqui b Um, so many different producers
Speaker 1: that I was like in the background, Nilly Hooper, gen Stefani,
Speaker 1: and I would just be watching him and trying to
Speaker 1: get as much information because I learned by sight. So
Speaker 1: one day they were like, hey, you play pile all right,
Speaker 1: and I'll play a little something. Hey you played bass right,
Speaker 1: or I sing something. So I was young, so I
Speaker 1: started kind of getting my my, my, my, my foot
Speaker 1: in that way. And then young young guy in the church,
Speaker 1: you know, he's a little money man, you know, a
Speaker 1: little hustling the hood. Was like, yo, you really be
Speaker 1: doing this music thing? Huh. He's like, you know, I
Speaker 1: got some bread, like what you need. I was like
Speaker 1: a studio and he gave me My first studio was
Speaker 1: three times more than this room. But it was that
Speaker 1: that was the day, I became a monster because now
Speaker 1: I had my own outfit, like I could do anything.
Speaker 1: I helped him build his career. Shout out to my
Speaker 1: man Stephen. Uh. Helped him build his little business company
Speaker 1: he was building, supplying the hoods and beats, supplying the
Speaker 1: hood beats. Stephen the top boy. Yeah he had Steve.
Speaker 1: Stephen had to pe. He hustled and made show, kept
Speaker 1: the studio open for like five years. I never had
Speaker 1: to pay for it. And you know, I always respect
Speaker 1: him for him because that's when I learned how to
Speaker 1: become a real producer. I learned to sing, record, vocal, produce,
Speaker 1: and I was watching y'all. That's what you don't understand.
Speaker 1: I had all your CDs in my room, in my
Speaker 1: studio room, and we played uh, Sex, Love and and Pain,
Speaker 1: or we'll play Maybe I Deserve, or we'll play Rodney Jack.
Speaker 1: Lot of Rodney, A lot of thoughts, always a lot
Speaker 1: of timberling, shots of Roddy because he talked. Y'all gave
Speaker 1: me my opportunity to a lot of timberling, a lot
Speaker 1: of I was studying, I mean, bro and then one
Speaker 1: day I just said I gotta get out of because
Speaker 1: I tried. I was broke, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: my girls leaving, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, my
Speaker 1: girls leaving me. At the time, I couldn't pay rent,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And she actually really believed
Speaker 1: in me. She just knew that I wasn't gonna work here,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We just bro The most
Speaker 1: I got paid in eight years and making music was
Speaker 1: like three thousand dollars in eight years and eight years
Speaker 1: because it was such a hard hustle, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And so by the time by the time
Speaker 1: I got to like my mid twenties, Um, there's this
Speaker 1: young kid in in the UK that was blowing up
Speaker 1: and music had changed again. It was not this new
Speaker 1: genre cool grime, because they had gone from garage, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, we call the garage, and went
Speaker 1: from garage which was like this upbeat we don't call
Speaker 1: him garge garage you said, you said two different names
Speaker 1: that we don't so we called a garage. It changed
Speaker 1: and you know, it became grime. And there's a whole
Speaker 1: history that you know. I think the the UK grime
Speaker 1: scene and R and B scene and just the music
Speaker 1: scene has to explain for the world to get But
Speaker 1: this kid called Chip, we called him Chip then. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's how I meant from the hood. That's how
Speaker 1: I met. Were in the hood, same studio. I end
Speaker 1: up working with him and he's like, yo, man, Um,
Speaker 1: I need you to do my album. And he just
Speaker 1: cracked the case. In the UK, he was like the
Speaker 1: first he was like sixteen years old. It's like, I
Speaker 1: need you to work on my album because he wanted
Speaker 1: to transition from the UK sound to a global sound.
Speaker 1: He wanted to penetrate America. I said, I'm your guy.
Speaker 1: So we started working. I was transitioning to l A
Speaker 1: because Um, I was taking these interesting trips. I was
Speaker 1: like getting on the plane, just come to New York
Speaker 1: and New York was popping at the time. When it
Speaker 1: came to like industry stuff and Craig calman Um heard
Speaker 1: my music and was like, can you fly to l A.
Speaker 1: I was like, uh yeah, he said fly to l
Speaker 1: A tomorrow. I wanted to meet another executive of mine.
Speaker 1: If he liked you, then we money. So I said cool,
Speaker 1: flying to l A. I go to see the executive
Speaker 1: and the executive just he just was like get out,
Speaker 1: like it was like, why are you hit? And I
Speaker 1: was like, damn, think I just flew six hours wait
Speaker 1: so that the executive wants you to meet. It wasn't
Speaker 1: working with you, bro, wasn't Listen. First we're in the
Speaker 1: studio and listened to my beats on headphones. That's disrespect one.
Speaker 1: I know who this guy is. I just even though
Speaker 1: you've never told me, I already know, right you listen
Speaker 1: if you want to start, alright, listen, But I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: phones in the music studio. That was like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: And then secondly, I flew six hour or six hours
Speaker 1: to meet with you for six minutes six minutes and
Speaker 1: say yeah, so yeah, give me these beats. And there
Speaker 1: I talked to you. You know, we'll call you or
Speaker 1: email you. And I was like, what am I supposed?
Speaker 1: The US business? And so I'm standing outside the studio
Speaker 1: like in tis because I'm like, firstly, I was in
Speaker 1: New York and it was like October, so it was
Speaker 1: coldest boots and now I'm in l a the same
Speaker 1: outfit and the green weever. I'm confused, Bro, I'm crying
Speaker 1: and so and I'm broke because I'm trying to figure
Speaker 1: this out. So, and I'm sure you want to choke
Speaker 1: that white bro. I wanted to say everything under the
Speaker 1: sun about his nostrils. But but you know, I thank
Speaker 1: God for grace. And you know the guy that had,
Speaker 1: you know, been around me at the time was my
Speaker 1: managing Matt. He ended up managing me after this whole situation.
Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, I met with this guy and
Speaker 1: he keeps talking about you. And I was like, what's
Speaker 1: his name? He said, r J r J. He said
Speaker 1: we should meet. He was like a big time producer man.
Speaker 1: I said, funk that I ain't coming over the way
Speaker 1: to me, no punk cast r J so podcast, Like
Speaker 1: I said, you needn't see like everybody like mad, like
Speaker 1: you can't see this thing. Just disrespect me. You even
Speaker 1: say nothing, say nothing like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm standing around two white people like he white. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying, No, baby, y'all seeing the jumping on me. Now,
Speaker 1: I do nothing. Just let the white man. So I
Speaker 1: was just so it hurt, and so he said, I said. So,
Speaker 1: I kept saying, He's like, no, I really think we
Speaker 1: should go see him. And I was like, man, what's
Speaker 1: this nigger's name? He said, Rodney Jack. I said. I said,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I said dark child, Ruddy jack is. He's like,
Speaker 1: that's it, that's it. I said, Nick, do you know
Speaker 1: who that is? You should have left. He was like,
Speaker 1: I think he's I said, you think he's wait, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And then
Speaker 1: as soon as I walked in and they were doing
Speaker 1: puff at the puff at the TV show, I find
Speaker 1: it making a star making it was making a star.
Speaker 1: It was like the It was like American Idol, but
Speaker 1: there was like a and Rodney was a judge on it. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I've gone over to that show and Ronnie walked
Speaker 1: out and he called me immediately he was like Harms.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, you're gonna change my name to Hars.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, your beat cause harm, it's causing harm.
Speaker 1: And I was like, where do you hear my beats?
Speaker 1: He said yo? I was so head a joke while
Speaker 1: this dude is disrespecting me in the studio. He was
Speaker 1: at Jimmy's office and my beats. I don't know how
Speaker 1: I tape got in there was being played. Tell him
Speaker 1: who Jimmy is, because you know Jimmy so while while
Speaker 1: he's having to meet with Jimmy. He said he could
Speaker 1: hear my beats in the room next door, and he
Speaker 1: said he was knocking so hard. He was like he had.
Speaker 1: He's like, Jimmy killing I'm just to go to bathroom,
Speaker 1: give me a second. And so he's going to the bathroom.
Speaker 1: He walks in the rooms like, Yo, whoever this little
Speaker 1: nigga is, find him and bring him to me. So
Speaker 1: that's how Matt got the email saying, Yo, Ronnie's looking
Speaker 1: for y'all. He wants to meet with y'all and so
Speaker 1: I shouldn't. He was like, yeah, my name, my name
Speaker 1: is Harmony. Was like Harms and I'm gonna call you
Speaker 1: Harms from now and and said, uh. He said you
Speaker 1: when you leaving? I said tomorrow. He's like, no, you're not.
Speaker 1: You canceled that flight. Come to see you tomorrow. And
Speaker 1: the rest is history. Man. He basically was like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: He opened that door and was like, yeah, you're with me,
Speaker 1: and uh. It's probably the biggest life changing experience I've
Speaker 1: ever had in my life. Mind you. He was the
Speaker 1: next day I go to see him. He's working on
Speaker 1: the Devil Wears product, so I'm just like, you know
Speaker 1: what man for giving you an opportunity. Listen, I'm a
Speaker 1: stranger from nowhere. When that when that other man phones off, listen,
Speaker 1: I did so head the thing about that's why you
Speaker 1: know full circle. A few years goes by, I'll break
Speaker 1: an artists, a new artist that no one ended up
Speaker 1: heard of, and they Craig. Craig actually calls me back
Speaker 1: into the studio and says, yo, come like I want
Speaker 1: to meet you. I was like, Craig, you met me before,
Speaker 1: I say I did. I was like, yeah, a seven years,
Speaker 1: six years ago, you flew me to l A to
Speaker 1: meet with the other dude. And he's like, I did
Speaker 1: I remember you? He said, whatever happened with that dude?
Speaker 1: Walk in? And Craig was like, you don't remember harmony.
Speaker 1: He's the guy that I sent here six years ago,
Speaker 1: Look look what happened. And I was just like we
Speaker 1: love that moment. It was one of them ones where
Speaker 1: it's just like, Okay, thank you, I'm glad that I
Speaker 1: didn't have to be a nigger that day. God got
Speaker 1: my back. Absolutely, what are your parents saying as you're
Speaker 1: saying no, not now, even though as you're saying R
Speaker 1: J p j J says, first of all, to stay
Speaker 1: a few more days. Secondly, I'm going to l A.
Speaker 1: So this is, this is, this this is is gonna get a
Speaker 1: little spiritual at this point. So there was things that
Speaker 1: I learned about making your moves in silence. So they
Speaker 1: didn't know a lot of my moves. They didn't like
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen my dad in publicly five years, because
Speaker 1: at this point you're grown man. Well I was. I've
Speaker 1: definitely grown man um. But me and I really had problems.
Speaker 1: Like when I was younger, he was like physical, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and so uh, I had a
Speaker 1: lot of anger issues towards him, and so he just
Speaker 1: wanted to me to be the best. Now understand the nigga.
Speaker 1: The nigga you know when you realize, damn pop. He
Speaker 1: was under some different stress, but as a young man,
Speaker 1: I wasn't. And it was just it was too much.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was going home school with black guys
Speaker 1: and well happen said I fell over and playing both
Speaker 1: soccer or whatever, and I grew I grew up with
Speaker 1: a resentment. So too. To prove my point, that became
Speaker 1: my driving force. I was like, I'm gonna show you pop,
Speaker 1: who the funk I really am? And so that thing
Speaker 1: used to see in my eye where it was like
Speaker 1: just monstrous. It was him because every time he told
Speaker 1: me no, I would have it was it just became
Speaker 1: like a battering ram in my hand that I was
Speaker 1: just like, so I disappeared. I didn't tell him, And
Speaker 1: what I realized was I had to tell her. I
Speaker 1: had to keep it a secret because if I told
Speaker 1: him I was trying to do, they would emotionally get
Speaker 1: in my head and kind of pull me away from
Speaker 1: the opportunity that was in front of me. Yes, I
Speaker 1: didn't know what was gonna happen, and it was like
Speaker 1: You're going twelve hours away on a plane to a
Speaker 1: land that nobody knows yet. On TV, the story is
Speaker 1: go gain drugs, rock star life Michael Jackson got killed.
Speaker 1: So England had you know, in London, there was a
Speaker 1: perception of what Los Angeles was. You know in London
Speaker 1: at one time you said Los Angeles, they called it Babylon. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That was the perception. And
Speaker 1: I was like, so I can't tell nobody. I literally
Speaker 1: moved to l A and lived in l A for
Speaker 1: a year. Before I told him, wow, that's wow. I
Speaker 1: lived in l a fourth and I made sure that
Speaker 1: I popped off. So when I called him, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the under made it. Yeah. So when they came over,
Speaker 1: it was like, nigg, so what's your what's the your son?
Speaker 1: They made a moment? What is that? What? What? What
Speaker 1: milestone had you reached that you felt like this is
Speaker 1: enough to let them know that I'm good. This is
Speaker 1: my career. There's a couple of about that. The one
Speaker 1: that really did was when I paid their house off,
Speaker 1: when I was like, you ain't got got that A
Speaker 1: lot of the Irianna Grande about it. That was the
Speaker 1: life changing experience of my career. Like I was like,
Speaker 1: I went from he's adult producer, he's a he's a
Speaker 1: great producer to super produce. After I did that and
Speaker 1: ire on the ground Ate the way feature mcmiller gad
Speaker 1: right there, big Sean, how long has you been out
Speaker 1: here before you get that? Three years? So I moved
Speaker 1: here officially two thousand and ten, January two thousand and
Speaker 1: ten and two thousand and eleven, I was cutting those
Speaker 1: records on that in two thousand twelve. It blew up,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and so Chris shot first. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: shot out my bro Chris Brown, because when I say,
Speaker 1: outside of Tank and y'all, he's probably the most authentic
Speaker 1: individual I've ever met in the music business. This man
Speaker 1: didn't know me from a kind of paint. He just
Speaker 1: heard a record that I had produced for Juwan Harris
Speaker 1: and he was in the video and he kept saying, Yo,
Speaker 1: who the hell made this record? And they go this
Speaker 1: kid harmony and he walked up to me, didn't know
Speaker 1: me from acount of paint. He was like, he made
Speaker 1: this record. Bro. I was like yeah, He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we gotta work. I'm scratching my head like you, Chris Brown.
Speaker 1: And not only did he say we gotta work, he
Speaker 1: made sure we worked. And those records changed my life.
Speaker 1: Save with me and all my love, those same records
Speaker 1: that you heard and even that session numb years ten. Bro,
Speaker 1: I just moved in. So it's like ending the two
Speaker 1: thousand ten, so January two, ending the two So I've
Speaker 1: been in nine months. I'm in the room with Chris Brown.
Speaker 1: And so the reason why it sounded so crazy a
Speaker 1: couple of things. The fact that I was about to
Speaker 1: prove to my dad I made it that angle was
Speaker 1: all over there. That was there was a lot of rage.
Speaker 1: But Chris was so confused me because he walked in. Firstly,
Speaker 1: we do you know what it is with Chris Brown
Speaker 1: the studio. He's gonna play ninety records, a hundred and nineties.
Speaker 1: It's more now. Yes, I mean Chris was playing records
Speaker 1: from his childhood, but they really work from last week
Speaker 1: because just how much he works, that's just how much
Speaker 1: he wants songs or not. So, so this is first
Speaker 1: something to move Chris. He's played like a hundred songs.
Speaker 1: We've been there. Like, have you placed anything before, like
Speaker 1: like a major place you had? I had one placement
Speaker 1: with Maroo five No curtain call, that's a that's Maroo five. Ye,
Speaker 1: that was the first. That was your first placement. And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you so fact. But it's
Speaker 1: a guy in that group named James Valentine. Shout out
Speaker 1: to James Valentine, James Valencize. Some relations, relations, relations relations,
Speaker 1: no relations with our names are very similar. That's pretty
Speaker 1: cool cut and call. So I was I was actually
Speaker 1: one of the first producers to actually work with because
Speaker 1: basically Maroon Fight was like a like a real band.
Speaker 1: So they only had like one producer. So when I
Speaker 1: made the record, they Broodi pick up the phone. Was like, Adam,
Speaker 1: I got something for you. It's crazy. Is my young
Speaker 1: producer just produced it and sent it to him and
Speaker 1: came back. I was like nigger Marion vibe. And then
Speaker 1: you know, so that was my first placement. I didn't
Speaker 1: really see any success from it, but it was to
Speaker 1: let me know that a conversation, conversation in the room.
Speaker 1: I mean, so, what have you done? You know? I got. Well,
Speaker 1: that's how b came to find me. He was like,
Speaker 1: always there, always there, there's somewhere that Big John has
Speaker 1: been in your life something. Yeah, Big John came over
Speaker 1: and was like maon five. So I guess that kind
Speaker 1: of had people looking at like, what's this kid about?
Speaker 1: And then creates we're doing Chris Brown. We had just
Speaker 1: done Chipmunk and Chris Brown Champion. Because I was just
Speaker 1: about to ask you, from my understanding, you did that
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, and because that's how I met you. Yes,
Speaker 1: basically I did Jowan Harris And I always tell people,
Speaker 1: do not be afraid to work with people who aren't known.
Speaker 1: Humble beginnings can lead to bigger doors. Like I always
Speaker 1: tell people that Jawan Harris was a new kid, but
Speaker 1: he sounded like Michael jack And I had this song
Speaker 1: that had this motown field. Mark Pitts was like, I
Speaker 1: need this for this kid. So I'm like, I'm like
Speaker 1: your Mark Pitts, I don't know you are have it.
Speaker 1: So we end up making the record with the kid
Speaker 1: sung the song down like I was just looking at
Speaker 1: me like you're about to be the next Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1: You have to be. There's no way, um benomest to me. Uh,
Speaker 1: we go mix the record. This is how so this
Speaker 1: record actually was the start off for a lot of things.
Speaker 1: We end up going to Jason Joshua to mix it.
Speaker 1: So that's how I met Jason Joshua. And they putting
Speaker 1: you in all the right so I'm like, who is he?
Speaker 1: He's amazing And he started mentoring me out the gate
Speaker 1: this is what you gotta because he's looking at me
Speaker 1: like where have you been? Like where did you come from?
Speaker 1: Like and he said this record gonna change your life
Speaker 1: and I'm like, big bro, you finger So he's like,
Speaker 1: I promise you is gonna change I'm like, ohn't no,
Speaker 1: big bro, this is a cool record, but I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna change my life. This nigga was prophes signed into
Speaker 1: my future. I go to the video shoot, marks like,
Speaker 1: as at least we could do is come to the
Speaker 1: video shoot. So I was like, okay, cool, who's doing
Speaker 1: backflips in the video shoot? Chris Chris Brown? And Chris
Speaker 1: is like, I need to work with you. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: from that song, that song and that unknown artist and
Speaker 1: now and now my life change and the record never
Speaker 1: did well by my life change. And Chris is in
Speaker 1: the studio, so this is the scariest part. He plays
Speaker 1: Yes three X look at Me now, the song with
Speaker 1: Bieber uh no bullshit, like the song we did on
Speaker 1: the Door, Like I'm like and he's like, yeah, so Harms,
Speaker 1: I need you to this. I said, I said this
Speaker 1: is your album, this one right here. I'm like okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: And Chris is a genius, like he's he's practicing in
Speaker 1: one room, he's playing basketball in another room. He's got
Speaker 1: a video being in the level room. But like the
Speaker 1: baddest chicks in the room, every executive is walking in
Speaker 1: it out, every producer from Dr Luke, Like, I'm just like,
Speaker 1: this is like this is my first Yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is it's too much, that's wild, that's actually insane,
Speaker 1: And so walk into until you explain it to it
Speaker 1: like the way you just have. I've never looked at
Speaker 1: it that way because yeah, so you know, we a
Speaker 1: honey of years in with Chris, so it's it's like
Speaker 1: we're just used to that's just Chris. But you playing
Speaker 1: it as a new producer coming from a whole another
Speaker 1: country and walking into that. Yeah, and you know, and
Speaker 1: the seven Street is there, k Max there. I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is overwhelming. H your money, Yes, sir, Top five song,
Speaker 1: R and B song. I'm gonna say things your man
Speaker 1: won't do. Jesus Christ by Joe. Let me tell you
Speaker 1: why amazing. Let me tell you why. Firstly, I mean
Speaker 1: that song has lost it how many years and probably
Speaker 1: when we've left the Stay be Here. Yeah, that red
Speaker 1: is the all time that pre chorus I talked to
Speaker 1: Joe about. I say, you're so disrespectful that don't see.
Speaker 1: I don't think I will ever hear another B section
Speaker 1: that great. I wouldn't argue with you because it almost
Speaker 1: was bigger than the hook. Oh that is that is
Speaker 1: very great. It was almost almost I think it was right.
Speaker 1: And when you see when you see it in concert,
Speaker 1: which we've had to do so many shows with him,
Speaker 1: I understand exactly what you're saying. And remember the first
Speaker 1: I just remember going, are we allowed to even do that?
Speaker 1: He did it like I was like huh, And then
Speaker 1: he does it so effortlessly. Is it magic by Stevie?
Speaker 1: Somebody else just yea, yeah, yeah, just put us on.
Speaker 1: When he just put me on that song I didn't
Speaker 1: know about that song, is like like I cried to
Speaker 1: that song because that song was just like when I like,
Speaker 1: I don't know when he just played it for me,
Speaker 1: I was like, what is that? And he produced that
Speaker 1: by himself blind He stop saying Stevie, let not get
Speaker 1: out of here. Stop this Stevie is magic. Stevie. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, um, come and talk to me, boy Joe
Speaker 1: to see boy you're talking to talk today you listening
Speaker 1: to it's between Come and talk to me a further
Speaker 1: of my lady them to kind of like the same
Speaker 1: that that came at me. At the same time, I
Speaker 1: was kind of mad, we'll come and talk to me.
Speaker 1: Got the remix come and talk to me. Just was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: are we allowed to do that? I kept asking like
Speaker 1: is this allowed? And it was just like the remix
Speaker 1: as well, with no music. Goto talk to me and
Speaker 1: it was just like these dudes from the street dressed
Speaker 1: like it was screaming harmonies at you, like come and
Speaker 1: talk to me. What can I talk to you? And
Speaker 1: they looked like the home I talked to me, How
Speaker 1: are you yelling at me like that? I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: to the king human nature? Uh, I'm sorry, dog like
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry like that that I mean,
Speaker 1: there was five hooks in that one song. It had
Speaker 1: a musical hook. It was five foots in that one
Speaker 1: song on my musical hook and ends with on some
Speaker 1: musical cinematic like that. Everybody tries to do you know,
Speaker 1: do you know? Do you know as soon as it's
Speaker 1: soon as it happens, you know what the hell is
Speaker 1: going on? It's unmatched? Why why I just tell him
Speaker 1: it's just human nature? Nature? Why? Why are you doing
Speaker 1: me that way? Are you doing me that way? Does
Speaker 1: he do me? Now? I try to preach this all
Speaker 1: the time. We are not perfect. Ladies are here, We're
Speaker 1: not here, We're not no, no, Michael said it best.
Speaker 1: It is just human nature. We are flawed by nature.
Speaker 1: Nature didn't nature is, Nature isn't perfect whenever Maxwell, Yeah, yeah, Max,
Speaker 1: you're hot. You're hot. Yeah, you're hot right now. That
Speaker 1: song you're hot right now, that song we ain't gonna
Speaker 1: be here, that song gonna be here. Song is going
Speaker 1: to be here forever. Max was still towing off that motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Just a different kind of monster. It's a different kind
Speaker 1: of monster. All right, your money, go go in the building.
Speaker 1: Shout out to go go in the building. Um eh, money,
Speaker 1: thank you for having her. By the way, come on,
Speaker 1: absolutely anytime we're gonna build. We're gonna build an R
Speaker 1: and B artist. But it called this the R and
Speaker 1: B Voltrin. Okay, where you're gonna get the vocals, where
Speaker 1: you're gonna get the performance style, where are you going
Speaker 1: to get the styling, and where you're gonna get the
Speaker 1: passion female male hold on, that's up to you and
Speaker 1: you can mix and match up however you want to.
Speaker 1: All right, so let's start with the vocals. Who you
Speaker 1: want to get the vocals from? Brandy m Well, I
Speaker 1: don't waste no time then, I mean, if I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean yeah, but it's understood the vocal
Speaker 1: bible does not have to be for me, my generation
Speaker 1: and our generation I mean ship. So yeah, definitely Brandy
Speaker 1: on the vocal especially rest in peace Lashawn on that
Speaker 1: magic magic um. Who are you getting the performance style from?
Speaker 1: Queen Bee? I mean Beyonce? Who can I say, who
Speaker 1: can entertain them? I mean the stadium Queen Bee? I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean fifteen years, twenty years? Does it get any
Speaker 1: crazier to that? No drop off? None, no drop off?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And I put Queen Bee
Speaker 1: because she sings that ship live for real though you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: I just think it's one thing to sing in the studio,
Speaker 1: but then you perform it live and do it exactly
Speaker 1: like the studio. Get on my nerves, all right? Who
Speaker 1: are you getting the styling frou you want your artist
Speaker 1: to look? That's a wide one styling yeh in R
Speaker 1: and B anyone, I'm gonna say Army, I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: Janet translates. Janet translates in all genres at all times.
Speaker 1: Or it doesn't matter what time of the year we are,
Speaker 1: what decade, she's showing up. I don't think it matters
Speaker 1: what time of the year it is. You gonna roll
Speaker 1: with whatever she got on five years old, Janet will
Speaker 1: layer up on you in the middle of the something
Speaker 1: still be flying and fine, fine with you, okay, I
Speaker 1: mean you're doing really good at that I wanted as
Speaker 1: your brother. You really shine it. Press my legs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fine, it's fine. Who are you getting the passion
Speaker 1: from the heart of your artists? The heart that's different.
Speaker 1: I would say a name and she just takes me there.
Speaker 1: Every time fantager m m with are shoes off? Yeah,
Speaker 1: across the stage. That's a woman that I've seen. He's
Speaker 1: going to sweat like every like she does not. I
Speaker 1: mean that one has had me in tears outside of
Speaker 1: working with a just seeing her just see my songs
Speaker 1: back loose to win again, and she said, I'll be like,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's not how we did it. She putting
Speaker 1: in a whole another level work, like I'm talking worship
Speaker 1: in the student where Mike the Microsoft set up people,
Speaker 1: was like, thank you Jesus, hallelujih. I'm like, yeah, you're
Speaker 1: you're different, different, different passions. That's that's a co vote.
Speaker 1: Run about your mind that that might be right there.
Speaker 1: That's a terminator right there? Are you about to break
Speaker 1: the other one open? I'm just showing the people. Come on,
Speaker 1: come on, come on with the promo, come on with
Speaker 1: my people love you. Yeah yeah, I'm rocking with it.
Speaker 1: And I mean, since we've had a beverage, yea trving
Speaker 1: a good good time to get to this segment. What's
Speaker 1: this segment? You know, since you watched the show, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you know it's becoming the thing he's kind of
Speaker 1: known around these streets a little bit. Card I ain't
Speaker 1: saying no names. Yeah yeah, I got the good enough
Speaker 1: saying you actually said he already tell some stories. We
Speaker 1: need to say no names earlier. But you know, I
Speaker 1: need you know the story funnier, fucked up, are funny
Speaker 1: and fucked up? I got. We got a lot of those,
Speaker 1: we all do, even though Tank tried to tell one
Speaker 1: that he told on somebody else's show, and I damn there,
Speaker 1: cust my my co ho, that's crazy, it's crazy. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna look at you. I know he's looking at me,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna looking at you while he looking at me,
Speaker 1: because I don't understand why he would do that. I
Speaker 1: understand it don't make sense to me. But today we're
Speaker 1: here with AH money people, I'm still not looking at tank.
Speaker 1: We're here with AH money today, and we would need
Speaker 1: harmony aged money. We need your I ain't saying no names.
Speaker 1: I got some plus more like man whatever, you won't
Speaker 1: just the only rule is you can't say that name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fine, that's easy for me. Here I don't like
Speaker 1: say people didn't anyway, um ah damn. We just wanting
Speaker 1: to do that. Where do I go? Says you know
Speaker 1: a lot, I say no names. Here we go. There
Speaker 1: was a song I made for artists. I took an artist.
Speaker 1: I took an artist she was also a songwriter to
Speaker 1: this session. And um, this artist was a good friend
Speaker 1: of mine and the artist was a good friend of mine,
Speaker 1: and one of them was successful already, the other one
Speaker 1: was trying to make it, and uh, I got caught
Speaker 1: in the middle of a situation. So we go to studio.
Speaker 1: I said, y'all come to studio. And it's like, m
Speaker 1: I want to come to studio do that session because
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to be an artist right now,
Speaker 1: and so I'm scared I'm gonna write a record that
Speaker 1: I'm gonna want to keep m And I was like, man,
Speaker 1: just came, trust me. You never know, like connections like me,
Speaker 1: I like bringing people in. They takes a village, like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like you come to the
Speaker 1: studio or whatever. Like. So she comes and she write,
Speaker 1: we write a monthster well, a couple of months go by.
Speaker 1: Look six seven months go by. In the session. She
Speaker 1: looked at me, She's like, I knew it, and I
Speaker 1: was like, you can't keep it. So a couple I
Speaker 1: like like, I'm never like a year plus goes by
Speaker 1: and this other artists, established artists, you know, had gone ghosts.
Speaker 1: So everybody would be like, what's going on. I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, and you know they're doing that thing
Speaker 1: they got there. So they the writer artists called me
Speaker 1: and was like, yo, let's going on the record. I said,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I ain't spoken to me for a minute,
Speaker 1: so I don't know what. She's like. She's like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to use it. And I was like,
Speaker 1: well you should say something. I don't know, you know,
Speaker 1: they might want to. It's like now I want to
Speaker 1: use it and I was like, all you, so I said,
Speaker 1: let me at least find out. So that's why managers
Speaker 1: can be dangerous. So management had conversations and they they
Speaker 1: the conversation was, and I think it was a front, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't know if you want the record? Da da
Speaker 1: da da da, because they didn't want to pay, because
Speaker 1: it was like, yo, if you want to record us, no,
Speaker 1: because we could picture somewhere else. So I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I got an email saying that your good money, so
Speaker 1: go do the thing. So all this goes to do
Speaker 1: the thing, go a deal off one record that I did,
Speaker 1: and that was supposed to be the next single. So
Speaker 1: it turns out the established WRO came back. It was
Speaker 1: wrapping up the pun. It was like, no, I want
Speaker 1: this to be my single. And so now I'm in
Speaker 1: a funk because I got both people trying to use
Speaker 1: the record of a single and it's up to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty right, And unfortunately, you know, you know how it goes.
Speaker 1: I know the rules. So the one thing I goes
Speaker 1: to the playbook, how's the song written, who was the
Speaker 1: song written for? Does that person have publishing or then
Speaker 1: that person has more say regardless of whether they den
Speaker 1: the record or not. I gotta go with the person
Speaker 1: who we did the record for because they own the
Speaker 1: recording at that point. That's how it goes. I had
Speaker 1: to go to the playbook actually paid for the session. Nigga.
Speaker 1: When I say they cussed me the work out, I
Speaker 1: mean it destroyed a relationship that was dear to me
Speaker 1: because it was someone else that was connected and it
Speaker 1: really kind of like damaged relationship for a period of time.
Speaker 1: And but I had to do the right thing, and
Speaker 1: you know, I let it. I let it go. Fast
Speaker 1: forward later they end up doing a record together. Anyway,
Speaker 1: So did your record ever come out? On either one?
Speaker 1: It came out. It came out, and it did good.
Speaker 1: It did good, um and they both ended up doing
Speaker 1: very well. But I got cast the funk out for
Speaker 1: something that had nothing to do with me. It's a great,
Speaker 1: that's a great. We want to know later. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take a sip. I'm gonna take a sip. I'm very fancy.
Speaker 1: Thank you for having my beautiful sister endorsement deal with.
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing out wild number any any time anybody
Speaker 1: said you want to do something, you just throw out
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