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Speaker 1: Like the porn start announcer, that's what my music done.

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Speaker 1: because crack in America was the most important thing for

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Speaker 1: Cracking America was important if you cracked America. I feel

422
00:26:52,240 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: like he keeps saying crackhead America, cracking America, breaking, and

423
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: so so what I could do for for the longest.

424
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: And then I interned for years, you know what I mean,

425
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: at studios, cleaning floors, laying on the floor in the UK,

426
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 1: and I would watch you know, Selene, Selene Dion's producer,

427
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: Chris neil Um, Marqui b Um, so many different producers

428
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: that I was like in the background, Nilly Hooper, gen Stefani,

429
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: and I would just be watching him and trying to

430
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 1: get as much information because I learned by sight. So

431
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: one day they were like, hey, you play pile all right,

432
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: and I'll play a little something. Hey you played bass right,

433
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: or I sing something. So I was young, so I

434
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: started kind of getting my my, my, my, my foot

435
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: in that way. And then young young guy in the church,

436
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: you know, he's a little money man, you know, a

437
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: little hustling the hood. Was like, yo, you really be

438
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: doing this music thing? Huh. He's like, you know, I

439
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: got some bread, like what you need. I was like

440
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: a studio and he gave me My first studio was

441
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 1: three times more than this room. But it was that

442
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: that was the day, I became a monster because now

443
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: I had my own outfit, like I could do anything.

444
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: I helped him build his career. Shout out to my

445
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 1: man Stephen. Uh. Helped him build his little business company

446
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: he was building, supplying the hoods and beats, supplying the

447
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: hood beats. Stephen the top boy. Yeah he had Steve.

448
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: Stephen had to pe. He hustled and made show, kept

449
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: the studio open for like five years. I never had

450
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 1: to pay for it. And you know, I always respect

451
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: him for him because that's when I learned how to

452
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:44,719
Speaker 1: become a real producer. I learned to sing, record, vocal, produce,

453
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: and I was watching y'all. That's what you don't understand.

454
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: I had all your CDs in my room, in my

455
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: studio room, and we played uh, Sex, Love and and Pain,

456
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: or we'll play Maybe I Deserve, or we'll play Rodney Jack.

457
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: Lot of Rodney, A lot of thoughts, always a lot

458
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: of timberling, shots of Roddy because he talked. Y'all gave

459
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: me my opportunity to a lot of timberling, a lot

460
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: of I was studying, I mean, bro and then one

461
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: day I just said I gotta get out of because

462
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: I tried. I was broke, you know what I mean,

463
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: my girls leaving, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, my

464
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: girls leaving me. At the time, I couldn't pay rent,

465
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,959
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And she actually really believed

466
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: in me. She just knew that I wasn't gonna work here,

467
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We just bro The most

468
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: I got paid in eight years and making music was

469
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: like three thousand dollars in eight years and eight years

470
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: because it was such a hard hustle, you know what

471
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And so by the time by the time

472
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: I got to like my mid twenties, Um, there's this

473
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: young kid in in the UK that was blowing up

474
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: and music had changed again. It was not this new

475
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: genre cool grime, because they had gone from garage, you

476
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: know what I mean, we call the garage, and went

477
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: from garage which was like this upbeat we don't call

478
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: him garge garage you said, you said two different names

479
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: that we don't so we called a garage. It changed

480
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: and you know, it became grime. And there's a whole

481
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: history that you know. I think the the UK grime

482
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: scene and R and B scene and just the music

483
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: scene has to explain for the world to get But

484
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: this kid called Chip, we called him Chip then. Yeah,

485
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,479
Speaker 1: so that's how I meant from the hood. That's how

486
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: I met. Were in the hood, same studio. I end

487
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: up working with him and he's like, yo, man, Um,

488
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: I need you to do my album. And he just

489
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,959
Speaker 1: cracked the case. In the UK, he was like the

490
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: first he was like sixteen years old. It's like, I

491
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: need you to work on my album because he wanted

492
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: to transition from the UK sound to a global sound.

493
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: He wanted to penetrate America. I said, I'm your guy.

494
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: So we started working. I was transitioning to l A

495
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: because Um, I was taking these interesting trips. I was

496
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: like getting on the plane, just come to New York

497
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: and New York was popping at the time. When it

498
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: came to like industry stuff and Craig calman Um heard

499
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: my music and was like, can you fly to l A.

500
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: I was like, uh yeah, he said fly to l

501
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: A tomorrow. I wanted to meet another executive of mine.

502
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: If he liked you, then we money. So I said cool,

503
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: flying to l A. I go to see the executive

504
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: and the executive just he just was like get out,

505
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: like it was like, why are you hit? And I

506
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: was like, damn, think I just flew six hours wait

507
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: so that the executive wants you to meet. It wasn't

508
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: working with you, bro, wasn't Listen. First we're in the

509
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: studio and listened to my beats on headphones. That's disrespect one.

510
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: I know who this guy is. I just even though

511
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: you've never told me, I already know, right you listen

512
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: if you want to start, alright, listen, But I'm like, okay,

513
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: phones in the music studio. That was like, oh my god.

514
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: And then secondly, I flew six hour or six hours

515
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: to meet with you for six minutes six minutes and

516
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: say yeah, so yeah, give me these beats. And there

517
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: I talked to you. You know, we'll call you or

518
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: email you. And I was like, what am I supposed?

519
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: The US business? And so I'm standing outside the studio

520
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: like in tis because I'm like, firstly, I was in

521
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: New York and it was like October, so it was

522
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: coldest boots and now I'm in l a the same

523
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: outfit and the green weever. I'm confused, Bro, I'm crying

524
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: and so and I'm broke because I'm trying to figure

525
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: this out. So, and I'm sure you want to choke

526
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: that white bro. I wanted to say everything under the

527
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: sun about his nostrils. But but you know, I thank

528
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: God for grace. And you know the guy that had,

529
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: you know, been around me at the time was my

530
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: managing Matt. He ended up managing me after this whole situation.

531
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, I met with this guy and

532
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: he keeps talking about you. And I was like, what's

533
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: his name? He said, r J r J. He said

534
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: we should meet. He was like a big time producer man.

535
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: I said, funk that I ain't coming over the way

536
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: to me, no punk cast r J so podcast, Like

537
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: I said, you needn't see like everybody like mad, like

538
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: you can't see this thing. Just disrespect me. You even

539
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: say nothing, say nothing like you know what I'm saying.

540
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: I'm standing around two white people like he white. What

541
00:33:54,200 --> 00:34:00,479
Speaker 1: I'm saying, No, baby, y'all seeing the jumping on me. Now,

542
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: I do nothing. Just let the white man. So I

543
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: was just so it hurt, and so he said, I said. So,

544
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: I kept saying, He's like, no, I really think we

545
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 1: should go see him. And I was like, man, what's

546
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: this nigger's name? He said, Rodney Jack. I said. I said,

547
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I said dark child, Ruddy jack is. He's like,

548
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: that's it, that's it. I said, Nick, do you know

549
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: who that is? You should have left. He was like,

550
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: I think he's I said, you think he's wait, yeah,

551
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: let's go. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And then

552
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: as soon as I walked in and they were doing

553
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: puff at the puff at the TV show, I find

554
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: it making a star making it was making a star.

555
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: It was like the It was like American Idol, but

556
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: there was like a and Rodney was a judge on it. Okay,

557
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: so I've gone over to that show and Ronnie walked

558
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: out and he called me immediately he was like Harms.

559
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, you're gonna change my name to Hars.

560
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, your beat cause harm, it's causing harm.

561
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: And I was like, where do you hear my beats?

562
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: He said yo? I was so head a joke while

563
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: this dude is disrespecting me in the studio. He was

564
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: at Jimmy's office and my beats. I don't know how

565
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: I tape got in there was being played. Tell him

566
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: who Jimmy is, because you know Jimmy so while while

567
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 1: he's having to meet with Jimmy. He said he could

568
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: hear my beats in the room next door, and he

569
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: said he was knocking so hard. He was like he had.

570
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: He's like, Jimmy killing I'm just to go to bathroom,

571
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: give me a second. And so he's going to the bathroom.

572
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: He walks in the rooms like, Yo, whoever this little

573
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: nigga is, find him and bring him to me. So

574
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: that's how Matt got the email saying, Yo, Ronnie's looking

575
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: for y'all. He wants to meet with y'all and so

576
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: I shouldn't. He was like, yeah, my name, my name

577
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: is Harmony. Was like Harms and I'm gonna call you

578
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: Harms from now and and said, uh. He said you

579
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: when you leaving? I said tomorrow. He's like, no, you're not.

580
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: You canceled that flight. Come to see you tomorrow. And

581
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: the rest is history. Man. He basically was like yeah, yeah.

582
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: He opened that door and was like, yeah, you're with me,

583
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: and uh. It's probably the biggest life changing experience I've

584
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: ever had in my life. Mind you. He was the

585
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: next day I go to see him. He's working on

586
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: the Devil Wears product, so I'm just like, you know

587
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: what man for giving you an opportunity. Listen, I'm a

588
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: stranger from nowhere. When that when that other man phones off, listen,

589
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: I did so head the thing about that's why you

590
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: know full circle. A few years goes by, I'll break

591
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: an artists, a new artist that no one ended up

592
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: heard of, and they Craig. Craig actually calls me back

593
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: into the studio and says, yo, come like I want

594
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 1: to meet you. I was like, Craig, you met me before,

595
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,959
Speaker 1: I say I did. I was like, yeah, a seven years,

596
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: six years ago, you flew me to l A to

597
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 1: meet with the other dude. And he's like, I did

598
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 1: I remember you? He said, whatever happened with that dude?

599
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 1: Walk in? And Craig was like, you don't remember harmony.

600
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: He's the guy that I sent here six years ago,

601
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: Look look what happened. And I was just like we

602
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: love that moment. It was one of them ones where

603
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: it's just like, Okay, thank you, I'm glad that I

604
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: didn't have to be a nigger that day. God got

605
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,959
Speaker 1: my back. Absolutely, what are your parents saying as you're

606
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: saying no, not now, even though as you're saying R

607
00:37:55,040 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: J p j J says, first of all, to stay

608
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: a few more days. Secondly, I'm going to l A.

609
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: So this is, this is, this this is is gonna get a

610
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: little spiritual at this point. So there was things that

611
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: I learned about making your moves in silence. So they

612
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: didn't know a lot of my moves. They didn't like

613
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen my dad in publicly five years, because

614
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: at this point you're grown man. Well I was. I've

615
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: definitely grown man um. But me and I really had problems.

616
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: Like when I was younger, he was like physical, you

617
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and so uh, I had a

618
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: lot of anger issues towards him, and so he just

619
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: wanted to me to be the best. Now understand the nigga.

620
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: The nigga you know when you realize, damn pop. He

621
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: was under some different stress, but as a young man,

622
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 1: I wasn't. And it was just it was too much.

623
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I was going home school with black guys

624
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: and well happen said I fell over and playing both

625
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: soccer or whatever, and I grew I grew up with

626
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: a resentment. So too. To prove my point, that became

627
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: my driving force. I was like, I'm gonna show you pop,

628
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: who the funk I really am? And so that thing

629
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: used to see in my eye where it was like

630
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: just monstrous. It was him because every time he told

631
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: me no, I would have it was it just became

632
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: like a battering ram in my hand that I was

633
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 1: just like, so I disappeared. I didn't tell him, And

634
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: what I realized was I had to tell her. I

635
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: had to keep it a secret because if I told

636
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: him I was trying to do, they would emotionally get

637
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: in my head and kind of pull me away from

638
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: the opportunity that was in front of me. Yes, I

639
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: didn't know what was gonna happen, and it was like

640
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: You're going twelve hours away on a plane to a

641
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: land that nobody knows yet. On TV, the story is

642
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 1: go gain drugs, rock star life Michael Jackson got killed.

643
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: So England had you know, in London, there was a

644
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: perception of what Los Angeles was. You know in London

645
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 1: at one time you said Los Angeles, they called it Babylon. Yeah,

646
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That was the perception. And

647
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: I was like, so I can't tell nobody. I literally

648
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: moved to l A and lived in l A for

649
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: a year. Before I told him, wow, that's wow. I

650
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: lived in l a fourth and I made sure that

651
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: I popped off. So when I called him, I was like, yeah,

652
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: the under made it. Yeah. So when they came over,

653
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: it was like, nigg, so what's your what's the your son?

654
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: They made a moment? What is that? What? What? What

655
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: milestone had you reached that you felt like this is

656
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: enough to let them know that I'm good. This is

657
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: my career. There's a couple of about that. The one

658
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: that really did was when I paid their house off,

659
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: when I was like, you ain't got got that A

660
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: lot of the Irianna Grande about it. That was the

661
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: life changing experience of my career. Like I was like,

662
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: I went from he's adult producer, he's a he's a

663
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: great producer to super produce. After I did that and

664
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: ire on the ground Ate the way feature mcmiller gad

665
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: right there, big Sean, how long has you been out

666
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: here before you get that? Three years? So I moved

667
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: here officially two thousand and ten, January two thousand and

668
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: ten and two thousand and eleven, I was cutting those

669
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: records on that in two thousand twelve. It blew up,

670
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and so Chris shot first. I'm gonna

671
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: shot out my bro Chris Brown, because when I say,

672
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: outside of Tank and y'all, he's probably the most authentic

673
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: individual I've ever met in the music business. This man

674
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 1: didn't know me from a kind of paint. He just

675
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: heard a record that I had produced for Juwan Harris

676
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: and he was in the video and he kept saying, Yo,

677
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: who the hell made this record? And they go this

678
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: kid harmony and he walked up to me, didn't know

679
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: me from acount of paint. He was like, he made

680
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: this record. Bro. I was like yeah, He's like, yeah,

681
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: we gotta work. I'm scratching my head like you, Chris Brown.

682
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: And not only did he say we gotta work, he

683
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 1: made sure we worked. And those records changed my life.

684
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: Save with me and all my love, those same records

685
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: that you heard and even that session numb years ten. Bro,

686
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: I just moved in. So it's like ending the two

687
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: thousand ten, so January two, ending the two So I've

688
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: been in nine months. I'm in the room with Chris Brown.

689
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: And so the reason why it sounded so crazy a

690
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: couple of things. The fact that I was about to

691
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: prove to my dad I made it that angle was

692
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: all over there. That was there was a lot of rage.

693
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: But Chris was so confused me because he walked in. Firstly,

694
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: we do you know what it is with Chris Brown

695
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: the studio. He's gonna play ninety records, a hundred and nineties.

696
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 1: It's more now. Yes, I mean Chris was playing records

697
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: from his childhood, but they really work from last week

698
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: because just how much he works, that's just how much

699
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 1: he wants songs or not. So, so this is first

700
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: something to move Chris. He's played like a hundred songs.

701
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: We've been there. Like, have you placed anything before, like

702
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: like a major place you had? I had one placement

703
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: with Maroo five No curtain call, that's a that's Maroo five. Ye,

704
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: that was the first. That was your first placement. And

705
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you so fact. But it's

706
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: a guy in that group named James Valentine. Shout out

707
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: to James Valentine, James Valencize. Some relations, relations, relations relations,

708
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: no relations with our names are very similar. That's pretty

709
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 1: cool cut and call. So I was I was actually

710
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: one of the first producers to actually work with because

711
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 1: basically Maroon Fight was like a like a real band.

712
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: So they only had like one producer. So when I

713
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 1: made the record, they Broodi pick up the phone. Was like, Adam,

714
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: I got something for you. It's crazy. Is my young

715
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: producer just produced it and sent it to him and

716
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: came back. I was like nigger Marion vibe. And then

717
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: you know, so that was my first placement. I didn't

718
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: really see any success from it, but it was to

719
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: let me know that a conversation, conversation in the room.

720
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: I mean, so, what have you done? You know? I got. Well,

721
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: that's how b came to find me. He was like,

722
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: always there, always there, there's somewhere that Big John has

723
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: been in your life something. Yeah, Big John came over

724
00:44:54,719 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: and was like maon five. So I guess that kind

725
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 1: of had people looking at like, what's this kid about?

726
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: And then creates we're doing Chris Brown. We had just

727
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: done Chipmunk and Chris Brown Champion. Because I was just

728
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: about to ask you, from my understanding, you did that

729
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, and because that's how I met you. Yes,

730
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 1: basically I did Jowan Harris And I always tell people,

731
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: do not be afraid to work with people who aren't known.

732
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: Humble beginnings can lead to bigger doors. Like I always

733
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: tell people that Jawan Harris was a new kid, but

734
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: he sounded like Michael jack And I had this song

735
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: that had this motown field. Mark Pitts was like, I

736
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: need this for this kid. So I'm like, I'm like

737
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: your Mark Pitts, I don't know you are have it.

738
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: So we end up making the record with the kid

739
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: sung the song down like I was just looking at

740
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: me like you're about to be the next Michael Jackson.

741
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: You have to be. There's no way, um benomest to me. Uh,

742
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: we go mix the record. This is how so this

743
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: record actually was the start off for a lot of things.

744
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: We end up going to Jason Joshua to mix it.

745
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 1: So that's how I met Jason Joshua. And they putting

746
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: you in all the right so I'm like, who is he?

747
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: He's amazing And he started mentoring me out the gate

748
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: this is what you gotta because he's looking at me

749
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: like where have you been? Like where did you come from?

750
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: Like and he said this record gonna change your life

751
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: and I'm like, big bro, you finger So he's like,

752
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: I promise you is gonna change I'm like, ohn't no,

753
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: big bro, this is a cool record, but I'm not

754
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: gonna change my life. This nigga was prophes signed into

755
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: my future. I go to the video shoot, marks like,

756
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: as at least we could do is come to the

757
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: video shoot. So I was like, okay, cool, who's doing

758
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: backflips in the video shoot? Chris Chris Brown? And Chris

759
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: is like, I need to work with you. And I'm like,

760
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: from that song, that song and that unknown artist and

761
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: now and now my life change and the record never

762
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: did well by my life change. And Chris is in

763
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 1: the studio, so this is the scariest part. He plays

764
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: Yes three X look at Me now, the song with

765
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: Bieber uh no bullshit, like the song we did on

766
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 1: the Door, Like I'm like and he's like, yeah, so Harms,

767
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: I need you to this. I said, I said this

768
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: is your album, this one right here. I'm like okay, yeah.

769
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: And Chris is a genius, like he's he's practicing in

770
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: one room, he's playing basketball in another room. He's got

771
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: a video being in the level room. But like the

772
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: baddest chicks in the room, every executive is walking in

773
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: it out, every producer from Dr Luke, Like, I'm just like,

774
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: this is like this is my first Yeah, I'm like,

775
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: this is it's too much, that's wild, that's actually insane,

776
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: And so walk into until you explain it to it

777
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: like the way you just have. I've never looked at

778
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: it that way because yeah, so you know, we a

779
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: honey of years in with Chris, so it's it's like

780
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: we're just used to that's just Chris. But you playing

781
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: it as a new producer coming from a whole another

782
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: country and walking into that. Yeah, and you know, and

783
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: the seven Street is there, k Max there. I'm like,

784
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: this is overwhelming. H your money, Yes, sir, Top five song,

785
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: R and B song. I'm gonna say things your man

786
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: won't do. Jesus Christ by Joe. Let me tell you

787
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: why amazing. Let me tell you why. Firstly, I mean

788
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: that song has lost it how many years and probably

789
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 1: when we've left the Stay be Here. Yeah, that red

790
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: is the all time that pre chorus I talked to

791
00:48:55,320 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: Joe about. I say, you're so disrespectful that don't see.

792
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 1: I don't think I will ever hear another B section

793
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: that great. I wouldn't argue with you because it almost

794
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: was bigger than the hook. Oh that is that is

795
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: very great. It was almost almost I think it was right.

796
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: And when you see when you see it in concert,

797
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 1: which we've had to do so many shows with him,

798
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 1: I understand exactly what you're saying. And remember the first

799
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: I just remember going, are we allowed to even do that?

800
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: He did it like I was like huh, And then

801
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: he does it so effortlessly. Is it magic by Stevie?

802
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: Somebody else just yea, yeah, yeah, just put us on.

803
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,479
Speaker 1: When he just put me on that song I didn't

804
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: know about that song, is like like I cried to

805
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: that song because that song was just like when I like,

806
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: I don't know when he just played it for me,

807
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: I was like, what is that? And he produced that

808
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: by himself blind He stop saying Stevie, let not get

809
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: out of here. Stop this Stevie is magic. Stevie. Oh

810
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 1: my god, um, come and talk to me, boy Joe

811
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 1: to see boy you're talking to talk today you listening

812
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: to it's between Come and talk to me a further

813
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: of my lady them to kind of like the same

814
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: that that came at me. At the same time, I

815
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: was kind of mad, we'll come and talk to me.

816
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: Got the remix come and talk to me. Just was like, yeah,

817
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: are we allowed to do that? I kept asking like

818
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: is this allowed? And it was just like the remix

819
00:50:55,120 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 1: as well, with no music. Goto talk to me and

820
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: it was just like these dudes from the street dressed

821
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: like it was screaming harmonies at you, like come and

822
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: talk to me. What can I talk to you? And

823
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: they looked like the home I talked to me, How

824
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: are you yelling at me like that? I'm gonna go

825
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: to the king human nature? Uh, I'm sorry, dog like

826
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry like that that I mean,

827
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: there was five hooks in that one song. It had

828
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: a musical hook. It was five foots in that one

829
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: song on my musical hook and ends with on some

830
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: musical cinematic like that. Everybody tries to do you know,

831
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 1: do you know? Do you know as soon as it's

832
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: soon as it happens, you know what the hell is

833
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: going on? It's unmatched? Why why I just tell him

834
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: it's just human nature? Nature? Why? Why are you doing

835
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: me that way? Are you doing me that way? Does

836
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: he do me? Now? I try to preach this all

837
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: the time. We are not perfect. Ladies are here, We're

838
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: not here, We're not no, no, Michael said it best.

839
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: It is just human nature. We are flawed by nature.

840
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: Nature didn't nature is, Nature isn't perfect whenever Maxwell, Yeah, yeah, Max,

841
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: you're hot. You're hot. Yeah, you're hot right now. That

842
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: song you're hot right now, that song we ain't gonna

843
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: be here, that song gonna be here. Song is going

844
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: to be here forever. Max was still towing off that motherfucker.

845
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: Just a different kind of monster. It's a different kind

846
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: of monster. All right, your money, go go in the building.

847
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: Shout out to go go in the building. Um eh, money,

848
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: thank you for having her. By the way, come on,

849
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: absolutely anytime we're gonna build. We're gonna build an R

850
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: and B artist. But it called this the R and

851
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 1: B Voltrin. Okay, where you're gonna get the vocals, where

852
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna get the performance style, where are you going

853
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: to get the styling, and where you're gonna get the

854
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: passion female male hold on, that's up to you and

855
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: you can mix and match up however you want to.

856
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: All right, so let's start with the vocals. Who you

857
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: want to get the vocals from? Brandy m Well, I

858
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: don't waste no time then, I mean, if I'm gonna

859
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean yeah, but it's understood the vocal

860
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: bible does not have to be for me, my generation

861
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: and our generation I mean ship. So yeah, definitely Brandy

862
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: on the vocal especially rest in peace Lashawn on that

863
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: magic magic um. Who are you getting the performance style from?

864
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: Queen Bee? I mean Beyonce? Who can I say, who

865
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: can entertain them? I mean the stadium Queen Bee? I mean,

866
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: I mean fifteen years, twenty years? Does it get any

867
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: crazier to that? No drop off? None, no drop off?

868
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And I put Queen Bee

869
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: because she sings that ship live for real though you

870
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, You know what I mean. So

871
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: I just think it's one thing to sing in the studio,

872
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: but then you perform it live and do it exactly

873
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: like the studio. Get on my nerves, all right? Who

874
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 1: are you getting the styling frou you want your artist

875
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: to look? That's a wide one styling yeh in R

876
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: and B anyone, I'm gonna say Army, I'm gonna say

877
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: Janet translates. Janet translates in all genres at all times.

878
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: Or it doesn't matter what time of the year we are,

879
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: what decade, she's showing up. I don't think it matters

880
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: what time of the year it is. You gonna roll

881
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: with whatever she got on five years old, Janet will

882
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 1: layer up on you in the middle of the something

883
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: still be flying and fine, fine with you, okay, I

884
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: mean you're doing really good at that I wanted as

885
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 1: your brother. You really shine it. Press my legs. Yeah,

886
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: it's fine, it's fine. Who are you getting the passion

887
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 1: from the heart of your artists? The heart that's different.

888
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: I would say a name and she just takes me there.

889
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: Every time fantager m m with are shoes off? Yeah,

890
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: across the stage. That's a woman that I've seen. He's

891
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: going to sweat like every like she does not. I

892
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: mean that one has had me in tears outside of

893
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 1: working with a just seeing her just see my songs

894
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 1: back loose to win again, and she said, I'll be like,

895
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: that's that's that's not how we did it. She putting

896
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,720
Speaker 1: in a whole another level work, like I'm talking worship

897
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: in the student where Mike the Microsoft set up people,

898
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: was like, thank you Jesus, hallelujih. I'm like, yeah, you're

899
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: you're different, different, different passions. That's that's a co vote.

900
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: Run about your mind that that might be right there.

901
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: That's a terminator right there? Are you about to break

902
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: the other one open? I'm just showing the people. Come on,

903
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: come on, come on with the promo, come on with

904
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: my people love you. Yeah yeah, I'm rocking with it.

905
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: And I mean, since we've had a beverage, yea trving

906
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: a good good time to get to this segment. What's

907
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: this segment? You know, since you watched the show, I'm

908
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: sure you know it's becoming the thing he's kind of

909
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: known around these streets a little bit. Card I ain't

910
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: saying no names. Yeah yeah, I got the good enough

911
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: saying you actually said he already tell some stories. We

912
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: need to say no names earlier. But you know, I

913
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: need you know the story funnier, fucked up, are funny

914
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,479
Speaker 1: and fucked up? I got. We got a lot of those,

915
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: we all do, even though Tank tried to tell one

916
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: that he told on somebody else's show, and I damn there,

917
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: cust my my co ho, that's crazy, it's crazy. I'm

918
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: gonna look at you. I know he's looking at me,

919
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna looking at you while he looking at me,

920
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: because I don't understand why he would do that. I

921
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: understand it don't make sense to me. But today we're

922
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: here with AH money people, I'm still not looking at tank.

923
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: We're here with AH money today, and we would need

924
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: harmony aged money. We need your I ain't saying no names.

925
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: I got some plus more like man whatever, you won't

926
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: just the only rule is you can't say that name. Yeah,

927
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: that's fine, that's easy for me. Here I don't like

928
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: say people didn't anyway, um ah damn. We just wanting

929
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: to do that. Where do I go? Says you know

930
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: a lot, I say no names. Here we go. There

931
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: was a song I made for artists. I took an artist.

932
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: I took an artist she was also a songwriter to

933
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: this session. And um, this artist was a good friend

934
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: of mine and the artist was a good friend of mine,

935
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: and one of them was successful already, the other one

936
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: was trying to make it, and uh, I got caught

937
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: in the middle of a situation. So we go to studio.

938
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: I said, y'all come to studio. And it's like, m

939
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: I want to come to studio do that session because

940
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to be an artist right now,

941
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: and so I'm scared I'm gonna write a record that

942
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna want to keep m And I was like, man,

943
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: just came, trust me. You never know, like connections like me,

944
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: I like bringing people in. They takes a village, like

945
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like you come to the

946
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: studio or whatever. Like. So she comes and she write,

947
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: we write a monthster well, a couple of months go by.

948
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: Look six seven months go by. In the session. She

949
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: looked at me, She's like, I knew it, and I

950
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: was like, you can't keep it. So a couple I

951
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: like like, I'm never like a year plus goes by

952
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: and this other artists, established artists, you know, had gone ghosts.

953
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: So everybody would be like, what's going on. I was like,

954
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, and you know they're doing that thing

955
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: they got there. So they the writer artists called me

956
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: and was like, yo, let's going on the record. I said,

957
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. I ain't spoken to me for a minute,

958
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: so I don't know what. She's like. She's like, man,

959
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to use it. And I was like,

960
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: well you should say something. I don't know, you know,

961
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: they might want to. It's like now I want to

962
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: use it and I was like, all you, so I said,

963
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: let me at least find out. So that's why managers

964
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: can be dangerous. So management had conversations and they they

965
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: the conversation was, and I think it was a front, Yeah,

966
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: we don't know if you want the record? Da da

967
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: da da da, because they didn't want to pay, because

968
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 1: it was like, yo, if you want to record us, no,

969
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: because we could picture somewhere else. So I was like, hey,

970
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 1: I got an email saying that your good money, so

971
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: go do the thing. So all this goes to do

972
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: the thing, go a deal off one record that I did,

973
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: and that was supposed to be the next single. So

974
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: it turns out the established WRO came back. It was

975
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: wrapping up the pun. It was like, no, I want

976
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: this to be my single. And so now I'm in

977
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: a funk because I got both people trying to use

978
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: the record of a single and it's up to me. Yeah,

979
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: pretty right, And unfortunately, you know, you know how it goes.

980
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: I know the rules. So the one thing I goes

981
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: to the playbook, how's the song written, who was the

982
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: song written for? Does that person have publishing or then

983
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: that person has more say regardless of whether they den

984
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: the record or not. I gotta go with the person

985
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: who we did the record for because they own the

986
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: recording at that point. That's how it goes. I had

987
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: to go to the playbook actually paid for the session. Nigga.

988
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: When I say they cussed me the work out, I

989
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: mean it destroyed a relationship that was dear to me

990
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 1: because it was someone else that was connected and it

991
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: really kind of like damaged relationship for a period of time.

992
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: And but I had to do the right thing, and

993
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: you know, I let it. I let it go. Fast

994
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: forward later they end up doing a record together. Anyway,

995
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: So did your record ever come out? On either one?

996
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: It came out. It came out, and it did good.

997
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: It did good, um and they both ended up doing

998
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 1: very well. But I got cast the funk out for

999
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 1: something that had nothing to do with me. It's a great,

1000
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: that's a great. We want to know later. I'm gonna

1001
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 1: take a sip. I'm gonna take a sip. I'm very fancy.

1002
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: Thank you for having my beautiful sister endorsement deal with.

1003
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing out wild number any any time anybody

1004
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: said you want to do something, you just throw out

1005
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: a wild number. Five times okay million. Um, you are

1006
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: a brother. Um, you are a loved one. You are

1007
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 1: special to us. Um most of all you are you are.

1008
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 1: It's extremely special to this universe and everything that you

1009
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 1: have to offer, from from your struggles to your successes.

1010
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: And we hear the Army Money. We love you, ladies

1011
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: and gentlemen. I am Tank and this is the arm

1012
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 1: by Money podcast, the authority on all things R and B.

1013
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:37,640
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1014
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1015
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