1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: Thank you, Revere, Revee Dalks look at us now. Tip 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: to Tim. This is our life, this is our passion. 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: That's the spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: I'm Brian Campbell. This is Morning Combat. It's Luke Thomas. 5 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: This is going to be the David ben Nevitez versus 6 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: Caleb Plant instant reaction post fight show. 7 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for joining me. The main event is ended. 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,319 Speaker 2: I don't have my thing buttoned anymore, but I am 9 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: ready to get this going now. Brian Campbell, who is 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: my partner in crime for Morning Combat, is actually right 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: over there. 12 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: Doing a CBS Sports HQ hit. 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: When that is done, he will return to the stage 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: here and we'll of course take you through everything. I'm 15 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 2: gonna get you started. So if you're watching now, thank 16 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: you so much. We really appreciate it. Thumbs up on 17 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: the video hit subscribe if you're new. We really appreciate 18 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: that we do these post fight shows late into the night, 19 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 2: but we also do the regular Morning Combat Monday, Wednesday 20 00:00:59,280 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: and Friday. 21 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: And some of the MMA fans are gonna be wondering 22 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: what about the UFC stuff. 23 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: We've got plenty of covers coming for that on Monday, 24 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: we're gonna get to Cordy Sanahagan's win and everything else. 25 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: But right now we're talking about what just ended. Behind me, 26 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: you can't quite see it because it's over my shoulder, 27 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: but the Middle Camp will show you here in just 28 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 2: a second. We are here in the MGM Grand Garden Arena, 29 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 2: actually in this thing. There's still some people here because 30 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: they're doing some post limbs, but we want to talk 31 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: about the main event that just concluded. So if you 32 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: have been living under a rock and you don't want spoilers, 33 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: now's your time to go. 34 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: Five four three two one. You can hear the commentator there. 35 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: Excuse me, a miguol Flores, I believe a re announcer' 36 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: bringing some other folks to the ring. But here's how 37 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: the main event went for David Benavidez and Caleb Plant. 38 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: David Benavidez wins via unanimous decision with scores as follows 39 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: one fifteen, one thirteen, one sixteen, one twelve, and then 40 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: one seventeen one eleven. I think the last two, to me, 41 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: are a little bit more defensible. 42 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: Obviously, it's just one fight. Sorry, Counto was coming there. 43 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: Obviously it's just one fight, and it's actually the way 44 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: you want to think about this main event to me 45 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: was that everything kind of slowly turned into what it 46 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: ultimately became. But if you look at the scoring, it 47 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: almost feels like a tale of two fights, namely everything 48 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: that happened up until the sixth round and then everything 49 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: that happened from the sixth round on. 50 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: What do I mean by that? From the sixth round on? 51 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 2: I believe the unofficial scorer four showtimes Steve Farhood never 52 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: gave a single round from six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, 53 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: and twelve didn't give a single round to Kayleb Plant, 54 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 2: and neither did I. In the first five. It becomes 55 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 2: a little diceier. There are there are possibilities to have 56 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: for one Kalb Plant inside the first five. I had 57 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: three to two Kleb Plant inside the first round, but 58 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 2: once David Benavitez started going downhill. 59 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: It just stayed that way. Truly, let's just back up 60 00:02:59,639 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: a step. 61 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: Cards on the table thought Caleb Plant was gonna win 62 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: totally wrong, although there are some I think redeeming elements 63 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: to his performance, but still, this was the David Benavidez show, 64 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: and he won and deserved to win, and from the 65 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: sixth round on was frankly unstoppable. 66 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: So here's how the fight went. 67 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: From what I can tell a talking about through the 68 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 2: first five competitive in spots. The first round was kind 69 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 2: of hard to judge. I thought Caleb had a better 70 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: second and third. Maybe Benavidez had one in the fourth, 71 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: and then Caleb maybe rebounded a little bit in the fifth. 72 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: That was it. But what was Caleb doing early? 73 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: Early you saw him using this sort of lead hand 74 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: as a way to kind of judge distance, be an 75 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: element to distract. Right, he could go high, then he 76 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: would jab to the body. He would set up a 77 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: lot of different things he would want to do. At 78 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: times you could see David Benavidez kind of slapping it 79 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: out of the way to get frustrated. But Caleb Plant 80 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: initially was working behind the body jab. Laterally he was 81 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: getting Benavidez to cover up and then throwing quick flurries 82 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: body and head. You saw some of the same things 83 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: that he didn't just do them in the Drel fight, 84 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: but from the Drell fight where he was doubling up 85 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: on the same side or doubling up on the other side, 86 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: right where he go left hook to the body, left 87 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 2: hook to the head. So early on it looked like 88 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 2: Kayleb Plant had the right idea, and early on he 89 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: was landing more ultimately than David Benavitez. The movement was there, 90 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 2: the anticipation was there. David Benavitez was trying to jab 91 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: his way in it. It was, you know, working sometimes 92 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: it wasn't that effective. He was counter striking a lot, counterpunching, 93 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 2: kind of just wading around. And we always know that 94 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 2: David Benavidez doesn't necessarily start strong, and so you thought, Okay, 95 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: Caleb's doing well, this is going roughly. 96 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: According to plan. 97 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: Of course, as we indicated, having the Stephen Breadman Edwards 98 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: in his corner this time. Breadman Edwards, of course, was 99 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 2: the game plan mastermind behind Jay Rocks win over Jared 100 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: Swift heard. You knew he had some kind of idea 101 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: about what to do. 102 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: In those spots. 103 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: Another thing that you saw Caleb do was he was 104 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: on his horse, he was working to the body, he 105 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: was working in combination, and then when Benavitez got too 106 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: close to him, he would clinch up right. You saw 107 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 2: that all the time, and for the first five rounds, however, 108 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: many you want to give to Caleb. I thought he 109 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: won the majority of them, either four one or three two. 110 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: This was going fairly wellish for him. This was going 111 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: pretty well again. He was winning the fight up to 112 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: that point. But here's the problem, and this is where 113 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: it all kind of came apart for him in the end. 114 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: Number one, I think this was the biggest factor. We're 115 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: going to get BC's opinion here in just a few moments. 116 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: But to me, he just couldn't hurt David Benavitez if 117 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: you look at their faces afterwards, and of course that's 118 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: a very rough measurement of things, but Caleb Plant did 119 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: have a cut from an inavertent headbutt, but was also 120 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: his ear looked really swollen and red, not kind of 121 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 2: cauliflower swollen, the bad his face was a mess, like 122 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 2: he had really was wearing the damage in a way 123 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 2: that Benavidez simply wasn't. 124 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: He wasn't getting hit enough for that to happen. 125 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: Caleb Plant was able to score early, but he was 126 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: never able to discipline David Benavidez. He was never able 127 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: to get David Benavidez off of him. He was never 128 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: able to get David Benavitez confused or really thinking, at 129 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: least not for long stretches of that bout. So in 130 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 2: the first five rounds, I thought Caleb was doing pretty well. 131 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: I thought the clinching was pretty great, but as we mentioned, 132 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: it just kind of fell apart for him after the sixth. 133 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: I want to get to some of the striking totals 134 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 2: that we have numerically here in just a minute. We'll 135 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: do that for too long here. But what I thought 136 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 2: David Benavidez did a really good job of was when 137 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: he realized that Plant couldn't get him off I couldn't 138 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: back him up, couldn't get him off of him, couldn't 139 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: make him respect the space, couldn't really confuse him, and 140 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: now he was walking into him with much more I 141 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 2: want to say, abandoned, but much more purpose. Frankly pace 142 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: a little bit as well. And from there that's when 143 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: the fight really got away from Kleb Plant. He was 144 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: still trying to use lateral movement, staying off the ropes, 145 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,679 Speaker 2: getting back to center. Was able to do some of that, okay, 146 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: but you really saw from round six on, especially in 147 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: rounds eight and nine, I thought that's the words got 148 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: ratcheted at a big time David Benavitez able to land. 149 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: I thought one of David Benavitez's best punch, how about 150 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: that left hook, and he was catching it between punches 151 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: with Caleb Plant. He was catching it off the jab, 152 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: he was catching it off movement, he was catching it 153 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: from different angles. And then the other key portion of this, 154 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: even though you heard I think some commentary around how 155 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 2: much David Benavidez was head hunting, the other component was 156 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: the rest space that Caleb Plant was trying to occupy 157 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: by the hugging, by the clinching. Which you eventually noticed 158 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: is that Kenny Bayliss is quick the referee to separate them. 159 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: And I did think that worked to Caleb plants benefit early, 160 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: but over time what you saw was that David Benavidez 161 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: better about using frames, better about giving himself just enough 162 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: room where he could strike his way in the middle 163 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: of it, strike his way to keep the clinch going, 164 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: to keep referee Kenny Bayliss off of him, and land 165 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: seriously damaging shots hooks over and over again again. Go 166 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: look at kayleab Plant's ears a disaster, a total disaster. 167 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: He was able to rock him, forcing more clinching where 168 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: he would either get separated again and then begin to 169 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: back up or even more punishment was really met it out. 170 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: Why do I bring all this up? 171 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: Because if you can walk Caleb Plant down, if you 172 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: can't discipline you with the job, if he's not really 173 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: slowing you down to the body, and of course now 174 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: you're able to land some of your left hooks in 175 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: between what he's doing on all the exits, and he 176 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: can no longer clinch with you, not effectively, And that's 177 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: now going to be a place where you can just 178 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 2: do inside fighting. 179 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: Well, that's that's the fight turning. He added some more punches. 180 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 2: Dad at Benavitez, I thought from that eighth, ninth, and 181 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: especially the last three of the tenth, the eleventh, and 182 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 2: the twelfth uppercuts, the upper cuts he was able to 183 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: land on Caleb Plant as he was kind of bent 184 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: over and forced over were dramatic. They had a huge, 185 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: huge impact. I think BC is done. We're gonna get 186 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: him here in just a second, he's taking pictures. Here 187 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: he comes running. I'm gonna make fun of him taking 188 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: pictures with doncs. He actually denied an mk donk earlier 189 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: who wanted a picture. That's a fact, all right, Let's 190 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 2: bring him in. He's my friend in yours. He's got 191 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 2: a pocket square on that he's very happy about. We're 192 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 2: gonna get his scores and everything else. Boy, I look 193 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: like shit with this untied tie. 194 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: Good lord, I mean when you back on shift, does 195 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: the chauffeur luke? I mean, what are we doing here? 196 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: I really just looked like I'm gonna get your car. 197 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm wearing every shade of blue they've ever made. 198 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: But let's talk about the fight. Well, it's picked up 199 00:09:59,240 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: where you left off. 200 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:00,599 Speaker 1: Where are we in this? 201 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 2: I was just about to give Caleb Plant some compliments 202 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:04,479 Speaker 2: for his toughness. 203 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: Let's givehim a lot of compliments. This is David Benavitez's night. 204 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: It's night. 205 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: But his stock did not go down today. Oh well 206 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 2: it did a little bit, a little Yeah it did. 207 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: Look here's the idea. 208 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 3: Ultimately, Kayleb Plant had to keep this fight on the 209 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 3: inside to be able to lock up Benavidez when things 210 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 3: got tight. The problem is he was really never able 211 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 3: to consistently get off offense on the inside. So he 212 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 3: does exactly so, certainly from a toughness factor, from a 213 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: willingness to face the best. You have to love what 214 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 3: Caleb Plant showed and the build up to this fight 215 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 3: on fight night and the respect afterwards. But how about 216 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 3: this fight that's built on trash talk and the real hate, 217 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 3: and benavite is telling me on stage fluck no. After 218 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 3: Friday's weigh in withou the hat sche to ever be 219 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 3: buried here. Plant loses the fight, certainly gains a lot 220 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: more respect of anybody who had doubts about him, But 221 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 3: then the two of them go from enemies to friends, 222 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 3: just like that. Cala Plant did earn that in defeat. Obviously, 223 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: though across the board, everything we said about David Benavitez 224 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: in terms of his upper bound limits his potential as 225 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 3: the Mexican Monster, as Mike Tyson named him. 226 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: Oh boy, that boogeyman at one six eight is for real. 227 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: He's coming. 228 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 3: The pressure is relentless. It's pressure on top of pressure. 229 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 3: And if you can't hurt him, and if you can't escape. 230 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: Him, what can you do? 231 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 3: That's what's gonna happen. I mean, you know, there was 232 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 3: a way this could be a lot like the Canela fight. 233 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 3: There'd be different opponents for Kayleb Plant, but the idea 234 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 3: of he might win a certain amount of rounds in 235 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 3: the first half, but then it's that pressure walking him down. 236 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: Can he with stand it? 237 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 3: I do wonder in this fight, if it was a 238 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 3: different referee, if it was a smaller ring, maybe Kayleb 239 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 3: Plant would he look close to going out a couple 240 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 3: of the rounds. In the end, it doesn't matter so much. 241 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 3: It's still just as impressive of a victory for Benavidez. But 242 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 3: how much do you think the Kenny Bayliss factor played 243 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 3: into anything? 244 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 2: People were honestly, here's what I said it. I looked 245 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 2: at Steve Farhood's scoring and I think yours and mind 246 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 2: matched it. I said, you know, it's not a tale 247 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 2: of two different fights, but the scoring kind of looks 248 00:11:59,520 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: that way. 249 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: Here's what I mean. Rounds one through five. 250 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 2: You can find three, sometimes four rounds for Kayleb Plant 251 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: in that first five, so it's either three, two or 252 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 2: four to one. 253 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: Plant. 254 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 3: I scored it the fight nine to three. I gave 255 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 3: Caleb Plant though, three rounds one, two and four. 256 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: Four, right, So this is my point. He had the 257 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 2: first three with inside the first five, but round the 258 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: sixth round on Benavitez never looked back, and I like 259 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: the way you put it, as I was saying the 260 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 2: exact same thing. Listen, if you're Kayleb Plant. He was 261 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 2: able to land on Benavidez early. He was able to 262 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: score early in that matter, especially given some of the 263 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 2: early hesitancy from David Benavidez, which we know he does, 264 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 2: but he couldn't hurt him and he couldn't confuse him. Yes, 265 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: some of the movement was good, and he was able 266 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 2: to be slippery early, but not enough to avoid the damage. 267 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: And I like what you brought up. You're asking about 268 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: the Kenny Bayless factor. Early on, I thought it was significant. 269 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 2: As time more on, I did not think that as 270 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: much because Benavitez was able to frame and score uppercuts 271 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: and hooks in these tiny night little windows that was 272 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 2: ringing Caleb Plant's bell over and over and over again. 273 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 2: And the times you'd actually see Kenny Bayliss reach in 274 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: to break them up, and you'd see Benavidez still throwing 275 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: through all of that, scoring Caleb Plant at times true false, 276 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: especially later hanging on for dear Lord in this content. 277 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: And again under different circumstances, a smaller ring, maybe a 278 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 3: different referee would have handled differently. The reason why I'm 279 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 3: not as up in arms. Did Kenny Bayliss go too 280 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 3: far and have too much? 281 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: You can? 282 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 3: Yes, he did. The thing that I'm ultimately saying is 283 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 3: that's what you get. I mean, he's a Hall of 284 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 3: Fame referee, he is the great reputation. But referees have 285 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: strike zones, just like umpires and baseball. Look no further 286 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 3: than the two fight series which was Floyd Mayweather and 287 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 3: Marcos Madonna from twenty fourteen. The first fight a majority decision, wild, 288 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 3: incredible fun. Twenty weeks was your referee that yeah, twenty 289 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: weeks from because from Castillo Corrals one right, Kenny Bayless 290 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 3: number two. In the rematch, you saw much different fight. 291 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 3: You also, Floyd use a much different strategy, relying on 292 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 3: his legs and his quickness and his boxing. But you 293 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: have to know what you're getting into with this type 294 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 3: of referee. But I'm basically saying, for all the hullabu, 295 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: the right guy won. 296 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: The right guy still figured it out. 297 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 3: Look, we ended up you and I in a very 298 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 3: close fight on paper, odds wise, picking Plant believing in 299 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 3: those skills, believing that he could endure and boy did 300 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 3: he and Dura, Let's give him that credit. 301 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: But we were ultimately predicting. 302 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 3: David Benavite's demise based on the idea that he looks 303 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 3: so perfect to get in a certain level against a certain 304 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 3: level of competition, But what is going to be the 305 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: hole that jumps out on the highest level when tested 306 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 3: against a guy who's quicker, more adaptable to the pure 307 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 3: science of it, None of those questions emerged, I mean, 308 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 3: because he had the answer every single time. He didn't 309 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: guess out, even though he certainly used the bad blood 310 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 3: between them to fuel himself, never too far. 311 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: To a negative point. Maybe in rounds one or two. 312 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 3: We're the only times I'm thinking benavite is chasing a 313 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: little bit too much, trying to do mono Imno. Ultimately, 314 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: Benavetez held firm so when you removed all of those 315 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 3: potential intangibles, and even though I predicted that from a 316 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 3: toughness factor, Plant had the potential there to go the 317 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 3: distance and maybe even have a chance on the scorecards. 318 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 3: The punches from Benavitez really took the starch out of 319 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: Plant really where it became survival mode around in that 320 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 3: round six to seven area was the first time you're 321 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 3: seeing Plant get rocked by punches and you're starting to 322 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 3: ask yourself, is he won punch away from a knockdown? 323 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 3: Is he one more big punch away from this fight 324 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: being over? I give Plant obviously a ton of credit 325 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 3: for being such a dog in the twelfth round for 326 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 3: still coming back at him, But round six through twelve 327 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 3: went Benavite's away in a lot of ways because those punches, 328 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 3: although not knocking down or finishing Plant, they had a 329 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 3: lot of effect on his stamina. They wore him down. Dude, Belenavetez, 330 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: is that guy. It didn't matter. Did he overtrain? 331 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: It didn't matter. 332 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 3: Any of That is why you make the fights between 333 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 3: the elites to find out. Boy, we found out, and 334 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 3: it's one of those times where you're happy we gotta 335 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: give predictions because that's what we do in our show 336 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: is but you're happy you got it wrong because you 337 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 3: want to see that guy potentially knocking on the door 338 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: of Canelo Alvarez. That's something we've been talking about for 339 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 3: I don't know, three four five years in terms of 340 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 3: what type of opponent could ultimately be that perfect kryptonite 341 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 3: for how great that under speed championship. 342 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: Let me see something about the pick, the Benavidez and 343 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: the Plant pick. I mean, obviously we're totally wrong and 344 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: realal Marquez blowing us up on Twitter for I see you. 345 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he but he told us though to our 346 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: let's call him out. It's his moment. 347 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 3: But he said, I'm not going to be there after 348 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 3: the fight when you guys are crying because Caleb Plant 349 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 3: got stopped. Yeah, I mean, Dimonte, can you pull you know, 350 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 3: we step on the brakes a little bit here. 351 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: Here is my hesitancy ahead of time. 352 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: And if you talk to all the other boxing experts, 353 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: most of them not that we are, but if you 354 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: talk to actual ones, they mostly thought that Benavidez would 355 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 2: do ultimately what he did. 356 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: He was the favorite to win this one. So there 357 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: you go. L d Monte, good job picking the favorite. 358 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 3: Do you look like vincevon Swing? I know, I just 359 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: alive I anyone where the high school girls hang out. 360 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: I look terrible. But here's the thing BC, and you 361 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: might agree with me on this. Benavitez has always looked 362 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: really good on tape, right. I mean, he's got certain 363 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 2: things he does that aren't conventional boxing. But in terms 364 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 2: of the punishment he delivers and the way in which 365 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: he does it. He's always been really, really highly touted 366 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: and very interesting. But I'm sorry, Caleb Plant was the 367 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: toughest opponent he had ever faced by far, certainly the 368 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: most unique one in terms of the movement. For MEBC, 369 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: I tell you what, I wasn't sure what kind of 370 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: crowd I was ready to expect tonight. They were a sellout, 371 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 2: massively pro Benavidez. There was a bunch of Mexican boxers 372 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: on the crowds. They were pro Mexican in general, but 373 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: huge Benavidez crowd, and BC I thought that Benavitez delivered. 374 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: I thought, at twenty six years old, he's never looked better. 375 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: Remember he came in at one sixty six and change 376 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: on the scales. Boy, if there was any doubters out there, 377 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: and we were a couple of them about Benavidez, it's 378 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: time to. 379 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: Put a lot of that away. 380 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 2: He really, really, really not only thought the tough guy, 381 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 2: but he looked the best I'd ever seen him. Yes, 382 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 2: he's got other knockouts and amazing highlight reels, but again 383 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 2: against who not against guys of this caliber, and for 384 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: him to put on the performance he did, especially when 385 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 2: he was going downhill for the sixth round on Wow, 386 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: super super impressive. David Benavidez is a star in boxing, 387 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: A star, always was one, as was always on the move. 388 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 2: Tonight was the night where he became a legitimate star 389 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: in the world of boxing. 390 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: A validating moment without question. 391 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 3: And I like to plants, game plan, movement, a lot 392 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 3: of that stuff early. But what Benavitez is showing us 393 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 3: is can you can you do that for twelve rounds? 394 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 3: Can he keep cooking in the kitchen when you know 395 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 3: there's flames everywhere? 396 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: I want to talk. Wow, it's really really hard. I 397 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: was say, I'm not getting out invalidating my parking. Dude. 398 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 2: I actually wasn't even thinking when I was looking at 399 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 2: the suit, and then I put it on before I 400 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 2: came downstairs, and I swear to God, this is the 401 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 2: first thing I thought. 402 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: I go, dude, fucking BC is gonna. 403 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: Roast all night long? 404 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, not wearing these pants. It's not as easy to 405 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: take to just sit here. I mean, come on, but uh. 406 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 2: Okay, I want to I'm not I'm not gonna get 407 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 2: on Twitter. I want to look at the stats are defensive. Well, 408 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: you know, Friday wasn't my best show, but here we are. Uh, 409 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: let's look at the stats on this one BC because 410 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: they were dramatic, so jabs twenty three percent of Benavitez 411 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: the shots were jabs. Yeah, just nine percent just not. 412 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: Actually, excuse me, want to say go to the total punches. 413 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: Nine I was nine percent. Excuse me, I'm reading it wrong. 414 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: Nine percent scored for Plant. Uh, twenty three percent scored 415 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: for Benavidez. He landed thirty of them. How about this 416 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 2: power shots? Just eighteen percent scored for Kayleb Plant, sixty eight, 417 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty for David Benavidez. And this was 418 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 2: the big one obviously, total thirty eight percent of the 419 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: strikes or punch excuse me, lander for David Benavidez two 420 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: hundred and ten scored just. 421 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: Ninety one for Caleb Plant. 422 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 2: Caleb Plant got outlanded more than two to one, more 423 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 2: than it can't beat David Banavida's that w can't scores 424 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 2: were a little bit too cool. One seventeen one eleven 425 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: was a little high. 426 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: No, that was my scorecard, nine rounds to three. I actually. 427 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 3: Because I didn't see Plant really do much. Great survival 428 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 3: skills for sure, great at least trying to find moments 429 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 3: in rounds that he was getting beat up in the 430 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 3: second half. But the second half was all of ben Avida's. 431 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 3: So unless maybe you overloaded the front half, either way, 432 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 3: the right guy won. 433 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: That's not what it is. 434 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 3: But I don't want to go further Luke without hitting 435 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 3: back on that end of that fight sequence, the post fight. 436 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 3: I don't know if this matters to you, guys, but 437 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 3: this is a brutal, violent sport, and all the fights 438 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 3: don't always get made, and you know they're gonna be 439 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 3: bad headlines. There was something really pure a transaction that 440 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 3: took place in there, Caleb Plant earning the respect of 441 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 3: his you know, most hated rival, his hat Field and 442 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 3: his McCoy. 443 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: That felt like awesome afterwards. 444 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 3: Great to see Benavidez Senior come over and apologizing, to 445 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 3: see him bull and see Benavidas on Mike just go look, 446 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 3: I can't talk about about this guy. Jim Gray was 447 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 3: bringing up the past like I don't want to talk about 448 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 3: it about this guy. I love this guy now. I 449 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: love that You don't. You don't get those happy good 450 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 3: fields and this is the end of like a you 451 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 3: know sitcom like full House, like you know they play 452 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 3: the nice music and and like you know, DJ's got 453 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 3: to come to terms in this one parent household. But 454 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 3: the bunch of uncles are. 455 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, I think it was pretty clear 456 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: to Cayleb Plant from rounds ten and eleven he was 457 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 2: not gonna win this. 458 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: He was gonna try. 459 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 2: He didn't lay down, but I think it appeared clear 460 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 2: to him he wasn't gonna be able to win. He 461 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 2: stopped moving nearly as much by the eleventh round. He 462 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 2: was that game plan for the first two rounds was gone. 463 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: But here's what he refused to relinquish. And this is 464 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 2: what I think David Benavidez picked up on. He just 465 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 2: refused to surrender emotionally. He refused to surrender competitively, even 466 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 2: if he knew he was gonna lose, even if he 467 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 2: knew he was gonna beat. I think bybe excuse me, 468 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 2: I think that David Benavidez picked up on that and. 469 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: Realized that's who he had. 470 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 2: They were slinging the dogs in the last thirty seconds. 471 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: It was crazy. That's what Caleb Plant earned in terms 472 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: of respect tonight from what Davi. 473 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 3: Fuel Benavitez being so jovial afterwards. You want to find 474 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 3: your equal, You want to and not that they weren't 475 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 3: equals on this night. You want to find sobody who 476 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 3: can drive you past the level that you may get 477 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 3: to on your own. 478 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: You know that forces you to be great. 479 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 3: Caleb Plant forced David Benavitez to be great today because 480 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 3: if he wasn't, there was gonna potentially there be openings. 481 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: But let's talk up the bread Man effect. 482 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you saw you saw Kayla Plant 483 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 3: trying to land some form of that double hook combination 484 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 3: that ended Andre Durrell and hit to you know, in 485 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 3: his last fight, the knock out of the year came 486 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 3: close early looked at one point when they traded punches, 487 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 3: I think with the fourth or fifth round, it looked 488 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: like Durell or they looked like Plant finally landed it. 489 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: But you know this monster just aid it and kept 490 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: coming forward. 491 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 2: So in the flurries from Kaylor Plant they didn't amount 492 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: to much. 493 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: They didn't and so you know, I give Plan a 494 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: lot of credit. 495 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 3: His confidence was through the roof, but we were asking 496 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 3: too much of him and a new trainer. 497 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: If Benavetez was able. 498 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 3: To leave no questions lingering, and that's exactly what he did. 499 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: So uh, the crowd was elected. 500 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 3: You know, I've it's no secret that I'm a sucker 501 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 3: for this right, big time Vegas Championship fight feel. You know, 502 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 3: we always say the last ten minutes before you know 503 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 3: they touched gloves to start a pay per view main 504 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 3: event is the most exciting ten minutes in sports, and 505 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 3: you certainly had that tonight. I'm not comparing this pop 506 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 3: or this feel to when I was in the same 507 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 3: building for Mayweather Canelo in twenty thirteen, or Mayweather pakiaur 508 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 3: over a team mobile for even Mayweather McGregor, but there was. 509 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: Like an extra special feel in the year. 510 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 3: Not just in the build up to them walking to 511 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: the ring, to the fans being all pro Benavidez, but 512 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 3: there was just an extra level of energy. 513 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: The fans really appreciated the fight that they got. 514 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 3: It wasn't a barn burner, it wasn't yeah, but it 515 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 3: was dramatic. It was intense the whole time, and watching tonight, 516 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 3: what a close up for the sport watching to night. 517 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 2: Watching Benavidez connect with his own audience before you know, 518 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 2: I guess he's done it before. 519 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: He's big in Arizona. Obviously we're not far from there. 520 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 2: You saw a lot of Arizona flags in attendance here tonight. 521 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 2: But I really really believe this was the night that 522 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: he met the demand of the Mexican fight fans. He 523 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 2: met them, he I think, in many ways exceeded them, 524 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: and it brings us BC to this conversation that we 525 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: have to have. You heard David Benavidez say it afterwards, 526 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: although it's no secret in this way class at one 527 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty eight pounds, there is one man who 528 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 2: has all the titles and his name is Canelo Alvarez. Now, 529 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: Canelo Alvarez has a mandatory fight he's taking for single 530 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: Demio against the guy with the name of John Ryder. 531 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 2: Corig me if I'm wrong, BC. Canelo Alvarez typically fights 532 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: around two times a year, once on single Demayo and 533 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: then once in September for Mexican Independence Day, right, so 534 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 2: we don't know what he's gonna do. He has this 535 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 2: fight with Ryder coming up. He has told most media 536 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 2: outlets he wants another crack at Bivol. I don't know 537 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. I don't like that fight for Canelo 538 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 2: obviously based on what happened, but we'll see. 539 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: BC. 540 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 2: What are the impediments to making a fight between David 541 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: Benavidez and Canelo Alvarez. 542 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: Shit, lay that one out for us. How does that 543 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: one get made or not? In theory, it comes down 544 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: to Canelo. Now. A reputation for Canelo in terms of always. 545 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 3: Looking at to make the biggest fights, check right, we 546 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 3: got that. But membership has its privileges when you're the 547 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 3: biggest star in the sport. Canelo is when you're among 548 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 3: the pound for pound best, and look, he just had 549 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 3: his run where he was the pound for pound best 550 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:12,959 Speaker 3: without question. 551 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: He's also a competitor. 552 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 3: He also realized that even though we watched Bevall kind 553 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 3: of largely you know, one sided league beat him. It 554 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 3: was seven five seven five seven five and all three 555 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 3: score cards. So one thing is look at large. Kennelalversus 556 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 3: is the rare promotional and network free agent. He tends 557 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 3: to take most of his business to Eddie Hearn and 558 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,959 Speaker 3: ultimately on his own, although obviously came to Showtime pay 559 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 3: per view for the Caleb Plant. It's going to be 560 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 3: up to him as long as he's not, as long 561 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 3: as he didn't sign something with Eddie Hearn that keeps 562 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 3: him there, an extra fight or any kind of option. 563 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 3: When Canelo gets through with John Ryder, He's gonna have 564 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: a decision. Potentially it's going to defend on It can 565 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 3: depend on bevall schedule, and we all of course want 566 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 3: Bevall to go in the direction of Archer better Viev 567 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 3: and have their own undisputed fight at one seventy five 568 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 3: for all four belts. But Canelo's got to make the 569 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 3: decision of giving the fans exactly what they want of 570 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 3: this type of fight between the Mexican superstar, Mexican American 571 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 3: rising stud who has captured that fan base and come 572 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 3: back to the division where he's best in show. No 573 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 3: one's gonna hold it against him if you dare to 574 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,959 Speaker 3: be great. But Benavetez is finally back. He did the 575 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 3: work he had to do. This fight already would have 576 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 3: happened if Benavidez hadn't been stripped to the title for 577 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 3: missing weight his fault, or maybe even years earlier, you know, 578 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 3: with the earlier stripping of the title. Benavidez at twenty 579 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 3: six put it all back together on this night. 580 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: He did his part. 581 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 3: He's got the interim WBC title, for whatever that's worth, 582 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 3: and he's got the fan saying okay, this calendar year, 583 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 3: I hope we get Spence Crawford. 584 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if we're getting furialistic. I don't know 585 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: about these other ones. 586 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 3: I know we're getting Tank Davis Royan Garcia April twenty second, 587 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 3: and they could make this fight here in Canela Avas 588 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 3: versus David Benavidez. That is arguably as big or bigger 589 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 3: than all of those, based on your expectations for entertainment. 590 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,719 Speaker 3: One of the best divisions in the sport one sixty eight, 591 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 3: all four titles on the line. I mean, this man 592 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 3: is the boogeyman of this division for a reason, Benavitez. 593 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: It still holds true even. 594 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 3: With a guy like David Morel, a young fighter who 595 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 3: looks really good has has a title, even with all 596 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 3: these other names, Jamal CHARLOI possibly moving up andred all that. 597 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 3: The one guy who you're like, oh okay, that might 598 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 3: be the kryptonite for Superman, it's Benavidez. 599 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: He made me again. 600 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: I wasn't exact. Yeah, I guess he did make me 601 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: a believer. I guess he did. He made me a 602 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 2: believer in what he could do in this weak lass. 603 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 2: Who would you favor at a fight between Canelo? And 604 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 2: here's what's interesting about that. Canello did not have the 605 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: best twenty twenty two. He dared to be great but 606 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: lost against Bevall. 607 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 3: And his trilogy fight at one sixty eight against middleway 608 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:45,239 Speaker 3: champion and aging Gonadi Glovkin was not this showcase of 609 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 3: history or back and forth. Canello kind of, you know, 610 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 3: kind of limped to the finish line and got a 611 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 3: decision deservedly. Not a great fight. Canello's got a lot 612 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 3: of answer, a lot to answer right now. You know, 613 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 3: can't he get back to that position atop the pound 614 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 3: for pound list? The competitor in him is gonna want 615 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 3: to prove that. So I think there's a very good 616 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 3: chance we see this. 617 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 2: The other factor is you just have to wonder how 618 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 2: much the boxing industry inside Mexico heavily powered by fans, 619 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: but you know the other power players are too. What 620 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 2: kind of pressure they're going to put on Canelo to 621 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: take this fight? 622 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: You asked me who who would be favored? 623 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 2: Is that what you asked me, how would you see it? 624 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: It's funny, right, yeah, right, But Canelo is not the 625 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 2: kind of fighter Benavidez is, but a similar game plan 626 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 2: from both broke Kayler Plant. 627 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 1: Sure, obviously Canelo was able to do it. 628 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 2: In the eleventh he did a ton of body work, which, 629 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 2: by the way, Benavidez didn't do a whole lot of. 630 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: No, he did a lot more head. 631 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 3: But I think especially early on when Kayla Plant was 632 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 3: still so spry and prime, before the punches started to 633 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 3: wear him down, it wasn't easy to slow down the 634 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 3: moving target. 635 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: Also, it was something we thought when we saw them 636 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: at the wigh end. It's like, oh, Benavidez is not 637 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 2: that much bigger, but in the ring, oh he looked 638 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: so all. You know, he just looked like a much 639 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 2: bigger guy. So I don't know, man, I don't Canelo 640 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 2: is hard to pick against. But at twenty six, twenty six, 641 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: David Bitavi, this is twenty Well. 642 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 3: I guess what I was saying is this is the 643 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 3: best time to make this fight and try to see 644 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 3: how close the odds actually can get. Because there's some 645 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 3: questions about has Canelo aged a bit, as he's still 646 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 3: that dude, because he turned prought fifteen less. Not forget okay, right, 647 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,479 Speaker 3: he had like just as many fights as Floyd when 648 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 3: they met in twenty thirteen. It's incredible how long he's 649 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 3: actually been around. But David Benavie is a Stock could 650 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 3: not be any higher. And let's put the final bit 651 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 3: of respect on what benavidas showed, and he shouted himself 652 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 3: out afterwards. 653 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: He did show responsible defense. 654 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 3: He wasn't squaring up and there to be hit in 655 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 3: the you know, I thought his slow pace in the 656 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 3: beginning was necessary. He needed to let Kayleb Plank get 657 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 3: all that movement out of the way. But once those 658 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 3: those short chopping punches and the work on the inside 659 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 3: started to happen. 660 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: Man denying the clinch too design the you. 661 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 3: Know, and if there's any way that fight couldn't get made, 662 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 3: you just as much want to see him against Charlo 663 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 3: Andreid or morel Like you're damn right. 664 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: Right, Okay, so those are great, We have to talk 665 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 2: about it here. Kayleb plant again. First, Yeah, two fifths 666 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,959 Speaker 2: of the fight did pretty well. After that, I kind 667 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 2: of got away from him. Where does he go from here? 668 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 2: Because again Stock rose in terms of the dog factor. 669 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: Yep. 670 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 2: But your stock gets hurt because now you face a 671 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 2: guy who's the top contender in the way class and 672 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 2: you lost, and you lost thoroughly, so that puts you 673 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: down a little bit further. Has some work to do. 674 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 2: What an Andred fight makes sense? Who would make sense 675 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 2: for Kayla Planet of this stage? 676 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 3: It sounds, you know, lame to say it, but any 677 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 3: of those super elite names, you know what I mean? 678 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 3: I would you would you love to see a debuting 679 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 3: Jamal Charlow a super middleweight to get the thing is, 680 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 3: I don't think Kayleb plants Gonnat necessarily want to go 681 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 3: back to the drawing bird and step down his level 682 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 3: of competition. He's trying to be as great as he 683 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 3: possibly can be. I mean, it meant a lot to him, 684 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 3: whether it was safer sound or sound or not. 685 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: To finish this fight, that meant a lot to him. 686 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: Huge and to still be pushing the pace, yes, to 687 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: have his chance to win. 688 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 3: Over the respect lak Killa plank I criticized a lot 689 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 3: when that sound bite came out of the fight against Canelo. 690 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 3: Do you know the SoundBite and talk about the conversation 691 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 3: they had when he looked at Canalen and was like, 692 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 3: what do you think about boxing? Billy like not bad, right, 693 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 3: And people are like, you're really trying to get validation 694 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 3: from your opponent there. It's really not about an insecurity 695 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 3: as much as Caleb Plant is out to get his respect, 696 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 3: and you know, you can. 697 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: Validate that all you want. 698 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 3: What that means whether we should be I think he 699 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 3: got it against Canelo, and he certainly got it something 700 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 3: against Benavitez. Those two just happened to be the two 701 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 3: best in this division. I like his chances against any 702 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 3: of the other great writers, and I think you have 703 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 3: to write. Styles are always gonna make fights. 704 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: The morale, the moral fight's tough. 705 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 3: Morel fight is tough. But Morel's twenty four years old, 706 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 3: so you know, just turned twenty five. Like he's he 707 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 3: he doesn't have that same level of season anyw. 708 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 2: Caleb is sitting at thirty smack in the middle of 709 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 2: his prime, getting you know, not too far necessarily from 710 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 2: the end of it, maybe a year or two or 711 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 2: potentially even more. 712 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 3: But you know, okay, if if Benavidez goes to Canelo route, 713 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 3: then I like, I. 714 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: Like charlo versus Charloah. I like that I like that 715 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: a lot. Charlo. 716 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 3: Jamal Charlo told us himself that, look, he's trying to 717 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 3: come back this summer, and that may be to defend 718 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 3: the middleweight title for the final time. 719 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: He has a WBC strap. But I think like when 720 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: the moment is ready for the big one. 721 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 3: He's gonna he's gonna jump in. I mean, he said it, Luke, 722 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 3: he said it, right. Do you What do you think 723 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 3: about Jamal saying that if I get a chance to 724 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 3: fight Benefitez, you want to see bad blood. You ain't 725 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 3: seen nothing yet, because what does that do for you? 726 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 3: That gets me out of bed in the morning? 727 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: It does? 728 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 2: Did Charlos seem to hate everyone though, so it's a 729 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 2: little bit weird. Kala Planet seems you Kayla Plan also 730 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 2: seems to hate it. I mean I hate but. 731 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 3: Like just so aggressively wants you to respect it. Right. 732 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: That was the most I'll ever touch you. Luke, Okay, 733 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: why don't. 734 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 2: You tell the folks what you did today? Like a 735 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 2: fucking weirdo. Why don't you tell him? I don't think 736 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 2: this is weird, Luke. Okay. 737 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 3: On the road, so you know what it's like on 738 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 3: the road. It can't exhaust you. Yesterday we were in 739 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 3: front of a camera, you know, like six hollars in 740 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 3: the end. 741 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,239 Speaker 1: I gotta protect my mental health. So today I had 742 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: to go for a walk. You know. 743 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 3: I walked six point four miles. But I saw you 744 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 3: in the distance. You were across the street, across those 745 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 3: busy Las Vegas street. 746 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: I think we were near the area where Tupac got killed. Yes, 747 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: right to bring them. Actually we were. 748 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 3: I saw you from the distance, but you had a 749 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 3: coffee in your handing There's there ain't no way in 750 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 3: hell you're walking three point two miles to the record 751 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 3: store with me not even happening. 752 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,479 Speaker 2: I walked two and a half to the mall eight records, 753 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 2: all right, I walked two and. 754 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: A half to the mall. You he needs new shoes. 755 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 3: I got some actually, So I took a picture of 756 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 3: Luke from from distance, you know, texted at him like 757 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 3: ha ha, and then just kept going okay, well, I mean, 758 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 3: what do you want? 759 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: We've been hunging out all week? What what you want? 760 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: The picture was from like ten feet away. No, I 761 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: have breath zoom. Could you imagine? 762 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 2: Can you imagine if I lived in his neighborhood and 763 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 2: I was a woman I wouldn't feel safe anymore. 764 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: Let's see the picture. 765 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 3: I mean this really this show him, show them, look 766 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: at that. 767 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 2: This douchebag got me just walking down the street with 768 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: the Starbucks. 769 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 3: The thing was, so you give me back a diatribe 770 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 3: over text. It's like, well, I'm not I just want 771 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 3: to die. I just want you to know I'm not mad. 772 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 3: That wasn't That wasn't a part of my factor. That 773 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 3: wasn't a part of my equation. That wasn't part of 774 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 3: my you know. 775 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 2: No, No, what I meant was what I said to 776 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 2: you was that I thought it was because you could 777 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 2: walked all that, all the six point four to go 778 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 2: to the record store. 779 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: I actually thought that was really cool. 780 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 2: And then when I realized you were like five feet 781 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 2: away from me taking pictures like a creep, I said, 782 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 2: it was really uncurving. 783 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 3: Three and four lane roads with crazy people. I mean, 784 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 3: you know, I'm not gonna what am I gonna run 785 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 3: across to say hi to you? 786 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 2: I saw you all want I see you taking picture 787 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 2: of local mill size. I was gonna work for three 788 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 2: hours with you. 789 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 3: I mean I can only take so much LT all right, 790 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 3: I don't know what you. 791 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: Want for me. All right, all right, fair enough that 792 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: I will say this. I mean you're gonna check on 793 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: the retell property, Yeah, I will look at me. 794 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 2: I gotta go, I gotta go, uber uber after this, Uh, 795 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 2: I did think that the scoring in the main event 796 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 2: was basically fine. And what I mean by that is 797 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 2: the scoring on some of the other cards tonight, like 798 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 2: the Valezuela Chris Colbert fight, was a disaster. 799 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: A disa No, a disaster. Well, no it we're like 800 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: it was close, not like that. 801 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 3: I do want to say that neither you or I 802 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 3: were scoring it round by round, so we cannot until. 803 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,479 Speaker 1: We go back ninety five ninety four. 804 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 3: Okay, look, it was a close fight. That score, to 805 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 3: me is not necessarily a robbery. I reserve the right 806 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 3: to go back and check it. I think the problem 807 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 3: was that all three, just two of those being my 808 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 3: Connecticut guys that have very good reputations in this game, 809 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 3: Glenn Feldman and Dontrella, all three had the same score. 810 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 3: So it looks like this organized we got it wrong. 811 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 3: It's a ridiculous robbery. But even though Colbert succumb to 812 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 3: some big punches, including getting floored in round one, he 813 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 3: was coming back in a lot of these trounts and 814 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 3: rallying it. 815 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: But there's a lot of rounds. He was laying against 816 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 1: the ropes getting teed off on. Look all I'm arguing, 817 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: all I'm si trying and defending here is. 818 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 3: You know, we're got people tweeting out like this is 819 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 3: you know, this is why boxing is dead and blah 820 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 3: blah Blah's like it was a close fight. It just 821 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 3: you know, maybe all three judges got it wrong. Let 822 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 3: me review it and watch it. But it was a 823 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 3: really fun fight. I mean, the first two fighters. 824 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: It's pretty good. 825 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 2: I can see why Valence Way laughter, dropping Colbert and 826 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 2: then having strong moments about the course of that fight 827 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 2: would feel cheap. 828 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Jim Gray didn't like the scorecard. He certainly didn't. 829 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 2: He certainly didn't he let everyone know about that u 830 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 2: BC anything else. 831 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 3: You know, I can't wait for Monday's Morning Combat Show 832 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 3: where we look back at you know, you talk about 833 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 3: UFC starfsan Antonio, we spin this fight card forward. 834 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 2: Speaking of crazy ass scoring, I saw some of the 835 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 2: results from that one. You could have scored that fight 836 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 2: five nothing Corey Sanhagen, and they gave one judge gave 837 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 2: him Cheeto three rounds. 838 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: And that judge had two fights on his Yeah coming, 839 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: Let's put him in the events. Let's put him in 840 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: the main event of UFC San Antonio, Texas. 841 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 2: And by the way, the referee from the horrible Fury 842 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 2: FC fight on Friday was a judge tonight at the 843 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:22,919 Speaker 2: UFC event. 844 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: So that was awesome. Yeah, that's that's great. 845 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 2: We're gonna get to that on Monday. We appreciate you, guys. Hey, listen, 846 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 2: let's think the fans. We've been here since Wednesday night. 847 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 1: The time you put the fans first. Although I did 848 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: blow up that fan you tried to get me a hey, 849 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 1: I took a fit picture with him. You told him 850 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: to go fuck himself. The main event is like about 851 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: to start, and. 852 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 2: Like the main event, walkouts were about to start, and 853 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 2: you denied a guy. 854 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: Ten best minutes in all of sportsnight a guy. I 855 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: didn't deny him. 856 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 2: I took a photo and will say this, We ran 857 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 2: into more MK fans at this boxing event than we 858 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,720 Speaker 2: haven't any other boxing event we've ever done. Tru or false, true, 859 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 2: definitely true. So thanks to all the MK fans, thanks 860 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 2: to everyone else who's watching right now. We appreciate at it. 861 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 2: You could follow us there on all the socials. We 862 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 2: have to catch a bird tomorrow. But Monday live eleven 863 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 2: am in the east, eight am in the west, we're 864 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 2: gonna get some morning combat again. We'll react to everything 865 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 2: we saw here. And of course all of the UFC 866 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 2: stuff on top of that. 867 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: Culpard suit was something. Huh. 868 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 2: He had a pimpsuit at the top and then he 869 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 2: just looked, I don't know, like thunder from down under 870 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 2: closing after that. But then again, I'm gonna go drive, 871 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 2: you know, yes, yes, please, somebody. 872 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 3: Rich can you have my water bottles ready and my 873 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,919 Speaker 3: mints when I get in there? In the charging game, 874 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 3: I've got a charger back there. So staff is really 875 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 3: can you guys end this? 876 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: Yeah? Can we just can we just call it a day? 877 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, now that is where we can like you 878 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: can just like you know, well, all the fights are 879 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: over in the back too. Yeah, the post limbs. That's it. 880 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: We're done here. Vegas was great. 881 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,479 Speaker 2: This was this is the first fight I've actually seen 882 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 2: inside the arena. Every other fight that I've covered here 883 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 2: they always made me go to studios A and B. 884 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: That's not fun. Yeah, this is this is this is 885 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: where they sell the drug. Look the magic. Yeah, dude, 886 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,919 Speaker 1: I've been on the outside looking in for a long time. Yeah, 887 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: about time, About time. Bro Okay, you done. I'm fat. 888 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: I get what I said. 889 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 2: I know we're both pathetic bag guy. 890 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: All right. 891 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 2: That's Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas. Thank you guys so 892 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 2: much for watching. We got to get out of here. 893 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,919 Speaker 2: We'll back on Monday morning. Catch us, then we'll catch 894 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 2: up with everything all on the combat sports. 895 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 3: I thought this all matched, but you know, there's a 896 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 3: lot of blue going on and I had to get 897 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 3: this pocket squared kind of even out. 898 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 2: The multiple are not trying to be rude or difficult, 899 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 2: but I do think it's time to call a conclusion 900 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 2: to the day. Broadcast therapy is working out. Otherwise everyone 901 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 2: gets all bitter. Yeah, all right, all right, why'd you 902 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 2: go put some socks on? 903 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: I mean, could you be worse? Oh God, get those 904 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: fucking things out of here? What are you doing? All right? 905 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 2: All right, we're done. That's Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas. 906 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 2: Thanks to everyone in Las Vegas. We're done here.