1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Ya would have had me gone in like the first round, 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: that would be what's up and then y'all gonna y'all 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: gonna win. Told Ozzy, you know, to get to get 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: me earlier. The stress out of combine and mixed with 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: three days that you'll draft people is terrible. You know, 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: teams will call you like just making sure this is 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: your number. Yeah, this is my number, you call it whenever. 8 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge. We are back with another player 9 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: interview today. Alright, one week off for Steelers Week. As 10 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: we said last week, Steelers Week was the guest didn't 11 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 1: bring us good luck, did not bring us good luck. 12 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: No podcast ball for Steelers week game. So we gotta 13 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: get a podcast bump for a player. And I feel 14 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: like this one, this one could come true. Yeah, I 15 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: feel like the doing to swim do this one, especially 16 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: last year was kind of a better run than this year. Yeah, 17 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: we haven't talked. We haven't talked about it quite as much. 18 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: That's the thing. You gotta talk about it more than 19 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: he gets you. Guys, heads podcast bump exactly exactly. So 20 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 1: hashtag podcast bump for Matthew Jude on this week. Gonna 21 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: have a big game in Cleveland and we brought him 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: on here before he becomes a superstar. Yeah, he's on 23 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: his way, and before we get to the full end 24 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: of with Matthew, I want to read this email. As always, 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: you guys can email us with the Lounge at Ravens 26 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: dot NFL dot net. This one comes to us from 27 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: Andrew red lemur reyneld reydeal Meyer, reydal red lemurle. I 28 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: just mixed up the l and the is this a 29 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: new breed of animal? It's a red Lemur rental rydal 30 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: Meyer Andrew red Alright, Andre says absolutely love the show. 31 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: Thank you for providing me so much. Need to Ravens 32 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: coverage up here in Toronto. There's probably rules coverage alright 33 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: north of the border. I want to give a huge 34 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: shout off of your recent guest and Ley Levin for 35 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: giving me a great night as they made the nine 36 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 1: hour drive to watch Monday night football from my first 37 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: Ravens game. Good luck. That's impressive. That's impressive, and he 38 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: was a good luck charm. We walked around Camra Yards, 39 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: got crab cakes that fails of the afternoon and thank 40 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 1: you Baltimore for being so hospitable. My question is this 41 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: well I absolutely love Joe for everything that he's done 42 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: up to, very much included the Super Bowl run. Is 43 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: the time for the Ravens to draft a quarterback relatively 44 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: high next year with the mind of having him as 45 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: Joe's future successors down the line. I catched him my 46 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: homes against the City, Jimmy Garoppolin, and then a bunch 47 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: of guys like, yeah, so we're reloting it. To be 48 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: empy with matter, we will spend too much time talking 49 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: about this, But what do you think of his question? 50 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: I think it's a good question. I do think this 51 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: one that the Ravens are gonna talk about. You know, 52 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: upper management will probably talk about this offseason when they 53 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: meet in Florida after the year ends. Um. I think 54 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: that they will discuss is it time to pull the trigger? 55 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: You know they've said, like the past few years, well, 56 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: you know, if there's a quarterback that's there, you know, 57 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: best player available, and we all it was kind of 58 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: came with a wink wink. We knew they weren't drafted 59 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: in a quarterback high this year. I think that there's 60 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: a very real chance that they could draft one. I 61 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be in the first round. It's 62 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: not gonna be my homes sitce you vation, but it's 63 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: more of the Garoppolo situation, which I think he was 64 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: a second round pick. I think that a second, third, 65 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: fourth round pick. That is kind of the sweet spot 66 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: I think for the Ravens because a they don't have 67 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: a sentence stone backup quarterback for the foreseeable for the 68 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: foreseeable future. Ryan not is gonna be a free agent now. 69 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: He was last year as well, and they brought him 70 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: back on a one year contract. But you know, I 71 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: think they'd like to get back into a Tyrod Taylor 72 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: situation where they drafted him though he was a sixth 73 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: round pick, and they really struck on that when they 74 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: hit gold on that one. I think the biggest thing 75 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: more than you know, I think that there they could 76 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: certainly go into the draft next year and draft a 77 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: quarterback in the middle round. And I think that it 78 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: is it's twofold, it's one you get an immediate backup. 79 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: You know. That's so that's kind of checking that box first, 80 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: because that is gonna be a position of need and 81 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: you have somebody that I mean, everyone kind of takes 82 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: for granted that Joe is gonna be out there every 83 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: single week and he has been, with the exception of 84 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: a few games when he tours a c L. But 85 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: you see this year, you know, he dealt with the 86 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: back injury, and that was an issue, a lot of concerns, 87 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: and so the guys just you know, getting into his 88 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: mid thirties, not quite there yet. When you start to 89 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: get into that territory, injuries become a larger discussion and 90 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: all that. So um plus kind of throw one thing 91 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: out there, and we don't want to go too much 92 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: longer in this, but having a young, good backup quarterback 93 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: is a very valuable thing to having your organization, even 94 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: if you want to trade him. Like if you draft 95 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: a guy and you say, all right, maybe this guy 96 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: takes over for Joe down the road, but then Joe 97 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: plays lights out like we all hope he will and 98 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: expects that he can, then you can say, all right, 99 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: let's trade this target. I mean, just like Garoppolo, just 100 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: like a J. McCarron almost got traded this offseason. Like back, 101 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: good young quarterbacks are desired, and so if you can 102 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: get a guy and he goes out and plays well 103 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: in the preseason, he goes in and plays well, with 104 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: mop up duty, or if he has to step in 105 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: for an injured quarterback and he plays well automatically, you 106 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: might get your return on investment back or even better it. 107 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: So I just think it's a valuable thing to have. 108 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: All right, enough about quarterbacks. That's talk about guys that 109 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: harass quarterbacks. That's right. I like it. Yeah, good transition. Yeah, 110 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: that's how we do in the pros. I'm still work. 111 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm still in triple A. Maybe I'll get the call 112 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: up on the transitions one day, but we'll see. Anyway, 113 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: into our interview here with Matthew G. Dunn, Matt, I 114 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: want to stop you from eating that dip, so I 115 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: think I say keep going if you guys hear some 116 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: crunching in the background. Matt's got some buff chick dip 117 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: and some tortilla chips looking pretty nice over there. I 118 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: wish why didn't you bring some up. Well, here's the truth. 119 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: I was waiting on Matt and he was kind of 120 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: doing a good job of hiding. He thought he could 121 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: wait me out, Like if he just like hides in 122 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: the locker room long enough and I'll forget that. We've 123 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: got the podcast coming up. I helped myself to a 124 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: large service with Alex Collins. Yes, he was doing he 125 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: was going for Alex's move, wait us out, but I 126 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: waited him out. I found him. Thank you Matt for 127 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: doing this, and uh, I gotta start it out with 128 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think that anybody on this team 129 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: dances as much as you do on game days, Like 130 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: I mean, before the game, during the game, after the game, 131 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: after sacks. Nobody dances as much as you do. So 132 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: I gotta ask you. Are you the best dancer on 133 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: the team. Is that why you're dancing so much or what? Yeah, 134 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: of course I'm the best dancer on the team. It'll 135 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: be people down there haying. But you know, all the 136 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: touchdowns and you know, celebrations. I'd like to think I 137 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: came up with him. You came up with all the touchdowns. 138 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: You're you're feeding the offensive guys everybody. We had Levin 139 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: on here, you know, a couple of weeks ago, and 140 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: he told the story of he basically just fell apart. 141 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: He just collapsed during his interception. We come, we come 142 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: up with stuff, V make plays and he loses his mom. 143 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: You don't know, you don't know where he at. I 144 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on? He coget handshakes, he forgets 145 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: damn says he would get things we practice. I mean, 146 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: I'm glad he doesn't, you know, go like that on plays, 147 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: like between plays, between whistles, you know what he's doing. 148 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: But let him make a play or being hit or 149 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: he just he just loses his mind. I feel like 150 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: it's gotta you gotta like because I'm sure when you 151 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: get a sack, right, originally your head's like yes, like 152 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: I just made this play, and then you have to 153 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: refocus and be like, what am I supposed to do 154 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: in the celebration? I was supposed to go nap that time. 155 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: It's sleepy time? Like do you have how do you 156 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: kind of gather your composure for the celebrations? See, I 157 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: plan to make play, so I already know those plays 158 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: are gonna happen. It's just celebration, it's also playing, So 159 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: you know you gotta envision that stuff, envision that stuff. 160 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: So I envisioned to make him plays. So I envisioned 161 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: the dances I'm gonna do after I make those plays. 162 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: I like, I like, yeah, what's your favorite? Because my 163 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: personal favorite was where you went to bed? You hopped 164 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: up because then you like to put put the clothes on. 165 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: That was like the underrated part of that dance. So 166 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: that celebration you then got dressed in the morning, which 167 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: I think people kind of forget about that. Yeah, yeah, 168 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: you know, I got some. I got some more and worked, 169 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: and I just gotta keep making play so I can 170 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: me and my teammates can continue to celebrate. So I think, 171 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: you know, home down the line will be make some 172 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: more plays. Y'all see some better days. You know what 173 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: his other favorite moves to do is on game day, 174 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: which is this is as soon as the game's over. 175 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: If I'm doing an interview with somebody on the field 176 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: post game, it's it's harder percent of the time, Juden 177 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: is gonna come in there and blow it up at 178 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: some point. How many do you think you've come in 179 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: there on at this point? Three? I think three. I 180 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: was gonna say how many wins you have? Sometimes sometimes 181 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: I came fine you, I don't know what y'all have. 182 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: I'll go high in a corner, all right, just like 183 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: you try to do to us. Sometimes you gotta hide. 184 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: So I see this a couple of weeks ago, and 185 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 1: I want to ask you again here on the podcast. 186 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: What is it about playing football? Do you think that 187 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: that you have so much fun with? What makes football 188 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: so fun for you? Because just kind of contagious the 189 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: way you play. I feel like it's not like football. 190 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: It's uh, you know, video games or even basketball, it's 191 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: not like football. Football is a lot of individual matchumps 192 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: that you know, something together a team, and basketball or 193 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: any other type of sports, you can win an individual 194 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: matchup and you can carry the team. But even in football, 195 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: you know you can win an individual matchup and they'll 196 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: still be a negative play. So, um, football, you know 197 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: you gotta rely on the guy next to you, but 198 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: you know that that brings you closer. So we want 199 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: to kind of talk about your story and Untel kind 200 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: of the background of it and how you got to 201 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: this point. Now, you know, in your second year, you're 202 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: making a lot of plays as you're as you're talking 203 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: about So, how did you end up at Grand Valley State. 204 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: It's you know, all respects to Grand Valley State, but 205 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: it's not known as this national powerhouse. I'm curious how 206 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: you ended up at this school. Let me stop you 207 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: right there. It isn't known as a national powerhouse. I 208 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't care what level. You know, we 209 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: can play anybody in the nation. They just don't schedule this. 210 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: This man right now is wearing a Grand Valley State 211 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: shirt and sweatpants. He is fulling a repping right now. Yeah, man, 212 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: you know I got more Grand Valley stuff in my closet, 213 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: did not have anything go you know, I'm a I'm 214 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: a Nike athlete, and I still got more Grand Valley 215 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: stuff and my close Is there any part of you 216 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: though that says even at this point, like like you 217 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: look at Michigan and Michigan State because you grew up 218 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: outside of Detroit and the suburbs of Detroit, and you're like, 219 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: what the hell are you guys thinking? Like some losers, 220 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: you know what they get lost out on, you know 221 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: that missed out, But I don't know, I was, I 222 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: think on seventeen because I had to sen I had 223 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: to back some stuff back to my mom. They get 224 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: hurt of it. When I was first in college and 225 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: I was seventeen, and you know, I probably didn't have 226 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: the best of grades coming out of high school, and 227 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: you know, I was a little more thin, and you 228 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: know that they didn't see it in me. You know that. 229 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: You know, I can't do it, hell on it, but 230 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, maybe I would wish I would have went 231 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: D one. You know, got all this stuff. I could 232 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: trade more jersey because I know people. I feel like 233 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: that's the worst thing though, that's the worst thing. You know. 234 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: I'll be seeing all these people, uh you know, dapping 235 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: hands and stuff after after the game because they know 236 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: each other. But I don't really know nobody because I 237 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: don't nobody. I don't know nobody from D til. It's 238 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: not that it's not in the league. Your Brandon car 239 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: could just exchange jersey after every day. Are there any 240 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: other grandfather, say, guys in the league right now? Yeah, said, yes, 241 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. The only couple, only couple of 242 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: holding it down. Man. But I think it's cool that 243 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: you you spent six years there, right, I mean it's 244 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: not like sometimes you see guys and they'll start at 245 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: the D two or whatever and then they'll transfer into 246 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: D one and all that stuff. Like I just think 247 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: it's cool that you stayed your six years there and 248 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: it shows kind of the loyalty that you had the 249 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: program and like, like you said, like you were kind 250 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: of like a thinner guy coming out of high school. 251 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: He filled out and he made it work, you know 252 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: what I mean? Like you were devoted to the program. 253 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: Senior year lead the nation in sacks with twenty one. 254 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I just think that's cool. 255 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: Like how do you feel? Like? Why did you stick 256 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: it out there? How did that shape you as a player? What? 257 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: What was it about that? I had a lot of 258 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: respect for my coaches and um, you know, the people 259 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: around me, and they brought me there to do a job. 260 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: You know it was with obviously to win games within 261 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: national championships, but you know they also brought me there. 262 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: Tell you know, groomy as the man I am, you know, 263 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: as the player I am, and ask the father I am. 264 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: You know, they had their responsibility my myself with my parents, 265 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: you know, gay them that responsibility and when they sent 266 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: me off to college, so uh, you know I felt 267 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: like I owed them, you know, enough to at least 268 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: you know, waited I'll stay there. You know, finished finished 269 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: my career as a Laker. You know, we grab Valley 270 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: State Lakers. You know it's Kobe. You know, it's probably Shock, 271 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: Jude and then Kobe. I'm still second Kobe yeah, I mean, 272 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: I mean, Kobe, I'm giving it to shock. You know, 273 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: one of my claims of fame is when you were 274 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: coming out in the draft. So him, Ryan and I 275 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: put together mark drafts every single year and we do 276 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: all every pick for the Ravens, and when you start 277 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: getting down to two really after the first round, it's 278 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: kind of a crapshoot. You just sort of guessing, right, 279 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: But your year, I hit two picks. This is this 280 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: was an all time great day for me for the rape. 281 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: I hit you and I hit Willie Henry. Right, it's 282 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 1: really good. You gotta give me credit for that. I'll 283 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 1: give it to round. You haven't gone fourth fourth. I 284 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: would have made him way better pay right right before that. Yeah. 285 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: But you know what I also remember about that is 286 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: I remember seeing like we'll just pull up YouTube highlights, 287 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: right and we'll be like, oh, yeah, this guy looks sick, right, 288 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: And so I pull up your highlights and I'm like, dude, 289 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: this guy's a monster. He's sacking everybody. Like twenty one. 290 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: You were like the quintessential Ravens pick. Like, we love 291 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: small school guys. We love got small school guys with production. 292 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: Guys are high sack numbers. I was like, yes, we're 293 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: taking this guy. So I tell Garrett we're share an office. 294 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm taking this kid, Matt Judean. He's like, no, no, no, 295 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: already have him. I called him first. I was pissed. 296 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: I can't now, you know, I can't take him soon. 297 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: I would have hadn't gone in like the first round. Man, 298 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: what's up? You'll gonna win tall Ozzy, you know to 299 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: get to give me earlier, right, you know that? Man? 300 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: That it's I don't think as much as the pay 301 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: day as as the stress. All right. I feel like, 302 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna getting in this league and I'm 303 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: gonna do what I do. I play football. I'm gonna 304 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: do that well. But the stress of those two days 305 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: is the stress. The stress of the combine and mixed 306 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: with the three days that you'll draft people is terrible. 307 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: That's that's that's the worst stretch you can put on 308 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: a you know, twenty five and under person. Ever, you know, 309 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: I mean, we're not ever like this is a great job, 310 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: but it's it's it's terrible. You know, you're just sitting 311 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: by the phone. You know, you don't like the first 312 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: round what's three hours, three or four hours? Nobody can 313 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: call your phone for those three or four hours. I 314 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: knew I wasn't going first round, you know, the two guy, 315 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: but I didn't want anybody calling my phone for us. Yeah, 316 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: and then uh, then something. You can't turn it off 317 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: because because if the organization call you're not you know, 318 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: and you don't pick up, they'll call you again. But 319 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: then they got to select somebody else because they actually 320 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: got to talk to you before they select. Make sure 321 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: your life, that's the only make sure the corpse is 322 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: still kicking. Then you know, just just sitting there away 323 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: and then you'd be like, all right, what I think 324 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: it's the second and third round the next day, and 325 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: that's also later in the day, so you gotta wait 326 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: all through that day. And then sometimes coaches will call you, 327 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: like you know, teams will call you like just making 328 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: sure this is your number, and like yeah, yeah, yeah, 329 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: this is my number. You call it whenever you're just 330 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: answering random numbers. You don't know who on the other line, 331 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: and then um, then you don't get another call U. 332 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: Then you know the draft is over. You know, the 333 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: second and third day, you know this is me. I 334 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: don't get another call until after that call, but I 335 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: got I got two of those. I got two of 336 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: those calls at the end of the second third day, 337 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: at the end of the first day, at the end 338 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: of the first day, I think it was like noon 339 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: the next day, you know, I'm just coming back home 340 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: and I get some calls like just making sure this 341 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: is your number, and you know, like probably like thirty 342 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: minutes after a different team, different area, cause I answered like, hey, 343 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,959 Speaker 1: is this Matthew Juno. I'm like yeah, yeah, you know, 344 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: and I'm feeling good, like yeah, that makes you think 345 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: you're going in the second or third round, se in 346 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: third round, That's what I'm saying. And then you just 347 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: see the ends well you know, I was coming out 348 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: as a d N see d ends coming off the board, 349 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:50,479 Speaker 1: just flying off the board, and it's like it's like 350 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: an automatically like compare yourself to that guy, like man, 351 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: I can I'm better than him, or you know, I 352 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: can do what he does with you know, and it's 353 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: just a distress's did you did you think you could 354 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: potentially go? It was highest second round? Then how many 355 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: If you're getting this callegs, you're probably thinking there's a chance. Yeah, 356 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: that's see, that's what I was thinking. Like honestly, in 357 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: my head, I was like four grounds probably the highest. 358 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: But then when you get those calls, you know, you 359 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: know you get those maybe you know, and so so 360 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: you have to watch, you have to watch, and then 361 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: you have to sit by your phone, and it's just like, 362 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: you know, somebody get the ball with a whole four 363 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: second shot clock and they're pump faking the whole time, 364 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: pump faking and Jack moving like is he ever gonna 365 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: shoot the ball? Like? But then but when you get 366 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: that call, like you know, that's why, like I understand, 367 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, people like drop to their knees and start crying, 368 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: start hugging everybody because just those the moments leading up 369 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: to that just so stressful. So what you do here? 370 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: Are you think? What you do? I was? I was 371 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: with my whole family, who was at my my high 372 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: school coach, coach Wins was at his house watching it. 373 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: You know, we just jumping around, you know, you know, 374 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if I shed a tear or not, 375 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: but you know I was. I was extremely happy. And 376 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: then after that and then everybody text your phone and 377 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: caught your phone and you don't want to be a 378 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: bad guy, and I like respond to everybody, but you 379 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: get so many like it's like he just copy and paste, 380 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. So you know. So you come 381 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: in here last year, you make a couple of plays, 382 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: and then this year you step into the starting line up. 383 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: El was Doomerville is no longer here and you were 384 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: the starter and you have six sacks. Right at this 385 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: point of the season, you when defensive player of the week. 386 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: I mean, how exciting has this emergence been for you? 387 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: And is it what you expected? Are you playing even 388 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: better than you expected? What do you think of how 389 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: this year is going? Uh? Nobody ever know it, But 390 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: I'm I'm like a cocky dude, don't you know. I 391 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: don't think I think. Yeah, I ask you this question. 392 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: Previously you've been like you media guys. You don't believe me, 393 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: no what he believes me? Do you think you're a 394 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: good reporter? I don't. I don't think that you don't 395 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: believe in me, y'all. Don't love asking, y'all. Don't I 396 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: think because I'm a small school guy, I'm a fifth 397 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: round pick, y'all. Y'all ask nobody else that I knew 398 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: as soon as you ask that question just now, I 399 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: was like, he's gonna have the savings exactly. Yeah, I 400 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: don't know, he's asking that question right, you know. And 401 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: so there's I'm supposed to play I'm opposed to play 402 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 1: at you know, I feel like all pro level and uh, 403 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: you know, I always want to be a guy you 404 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: gotta circle on the on the film like this guy 405 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: we got back. Where do you think that you got 406 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: that attitude from? Where did that confidence come from? It's 407 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 1: always it's always been like that, you know. When I 408 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: was little, not not so little, but when I was younger, 409 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: probably like elementary, middle school. My brother used my older brother, 410 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: Michael Judon Jr. He used to beat the dogs, not 411 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: out of wasn't mad. He just use the Oakland Raiders. 412 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: I don't even remember. I don't remember that quarterback nothing. 413 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: He used to beat the dust. I never I used 414 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: to get so mad. I used like cry and like 415 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: man as you can't wait to beat him. And I 416 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: think it was just you know, that competition. But in 417 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: the household, it was always a competition with me and 418 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: my two older brother and just trying to be great 419 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: or better than them at anything. Then they trickled over 420 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: to other people, you know, they triggered over to the competition, 421 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: and I was in you know, playing basketball, playing football, 422 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: you know, other other sports. I just always wanted to 423 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: be the best. And I feel like I always wanted 424 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: people to like need me, you know, because when you're 425 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: when you're getting picked for sports, you know, I need 426 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: you don't know, one team, because I felt like I 427 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: felt like that, you know, what inspired me to be 428 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: great and why, you know, trying to be great every day. 429 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: So you talk about your childhood, I mean you grew up. 430 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: You were one of ten, right, one of ten children? 431 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: Number six? Yeah? Right? And so how they growing up 432 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: and that big of a family shape you And maybe 433 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: this is what you're talking about. Maybe it's that competitive spirit, 434 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: but how did that kind of make you who you 435 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: are today? Um? It made me. It made me what 436 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: I am to say huge, because you know, being one 437 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: of team, you're never alone even you know, but but 438 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: you're also okay with being alone. I felt like if 439 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: he was. I don't know how it is, but I 440 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: felt like when you were a single, you know child, 441 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 1: when you're the only child, is like, you don't want 442 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: to be alone because you never had no siblings, you 443 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: never you always had a long time. But me, I'm like, okay, 444 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: we'll being alone because you know, my house was always loud, 445 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: something was always going on with so many kids. So 446 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: I really never had no like area just tell myself. 447 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: But you know, now I got the area to myself, 448 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: and I'm okay with it because I can communicate with 449 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: my family, you know, and my friends and my siblings 450 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: because you know, you know, they was there for me 451 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: and we were so close, so it's not like I'm 452 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: alone even when I'm along. What was it like the 453 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: first time you have your own bedroom? I don't know 454 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: if I was in college or when you get to 455 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: the pro you know what I mean, Like, what was that? Like? 456 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: I see, well that's assuming that you didn't have your 457 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: own bedroom with you know, nine brothers and sisters. I 458 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: never had my own bedroom. I don't even I don't. 459 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: It was my first year of college, the second from 460 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: my roommate Isaiah done and have moved out. That's the situation. 461 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: You got a guy who was out, but he had 462 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: moved out, like to the next next house right over, 463 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: and like you know, we're still good friends to this day. 464 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: But like, like I can do you know, it was 465 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 1: just my own room, my life having music going like 466 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: at all times in my house. So in my room, 467 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: I had like my little stereo at once I come in, 468 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 1: I played some music I had. Like I had took 469 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: his bed because because we had kind of had loft 470 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: the beds, but we unlofted him just so I took 471 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: his just bed and put it on my bed. So 472 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: my bed was like higher the mattresses and it was 473 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: coming it was like more comfortable. Um, I sleep with 474 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: the window open, So the window was open like through summer, 475 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: through rain, through snow like, so it was always cold 476 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: in my room and it was just it was my 477 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: own like it was the best. It was the best 478 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: thing in the world. Like you don't know, you don't understand. 479 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: It was kind of funny when you were talking about 480 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: and this kind of gives back to your the cockiness thing, 481 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: but you said that last year when you came in 482 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: as a rookie, you felt like you kind of rubbed 483 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: some vets like the wrong way. Can you elaborate a 484 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: little bit on that. What was that? Like did anybody 485 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: voice that to you, Like, did any vet come to 486 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: you and be like, dude, you gotta kind of chill 487 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: out a little bit. What what happened? No nobody ever 488 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: came to me. It was like you gotta chill out, 489 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: or you know, they'd just be like, well, we do 490 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: stuff like this, or kind of suggested, yeah, you know, 491 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: kind of not like backhanded, but you know, like on 492 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: on a slide, like you know, we kind of do 493 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: stuff like this, or you know, just just like uh, 494 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: kind of like mentoring me. You know, like all right, 495 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: we well, then you gotta do it like this. You 496 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: gotta do it like this. You gotta do it like this. 497 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: And I remember, like because I never time my shoes 498 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: in practice, my clevesand practice, I used it every time 499 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: my cleasand practice. I always take my ankles and put 500 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: on long sides and just every time, you know, I'm 501 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: so the first day we out here in o t As, uh, 502 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: you know, we're going through practice, and well it's a 503 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: starter practice. So it's like it's like run and I'm 504 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: out there, you know, I do my couple of plays. 505 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: Then um, after Coach Harball was like hey Jude, and 506 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: come here. So, um, you know I'm walking. I'm well, 507 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm kind of running off like around to the offensive 508 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: like how we stand behind. You know, I'm kind of 509 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: running off, and Kyle juice back grasp me, like, tie 510 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: your shoes before you go over there. So I was like, 511 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: all right, I caught my shoes and then um, I 512 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: get over there. And once I get over there first day, 513 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: and he looked, he looked down. He was like, I 514 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: see somebody told you to tie your shoes. And I'm 515 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: like like, yeah, why, It was like uh and then 516 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: he he said something about like being ready. I was like, 517 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: you know me, I'm a rookie time. I'm like, yeah, yes, cause, 518 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: but I'm like I didn't think that had anything to 519 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: do with me being ready to practice. I'm because I'm 520 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: ready to practice. I just don't ever tie my shoes 521 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: at practice, so you know I had to. I had 522 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: to change. That's I'll go on every time I go 523 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: out there. I only do our little stretch with my 524 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: shoes on tied part of it. Then I taught my 525 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: shoes up, and then I'm ready to practice again. I 526 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 1: feel like when you would obviously, if it's coming from 527 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: the head coach, you're going to tie your shoes. That's 528 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: kind of like a non negotiable when but when you 529 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: get these little tips from other players, these veteran players, 530 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: when you said that if you felt like it was 531 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: kind of mentoring you, did you feel like you were 532 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: receptive to that? Did it? And I'll rub you the 533 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: wrong way? Or how did you? Did you? Because especially 534 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: now because you said like now like you can be 535 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: yourself like they get you better. So it seems like 536 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: it was a two a street. You can go either 537 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: way because I can see guys that are like, that's 538 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: not me, that's not who I am. I'm not gonna 539 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: listen to you like I'm gonna do it my way, 540 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: or you can be like, all right, thanks for telling me, 541 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: like how did you kind of Um, I just you know, 542 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: always take everything with a grain of salt, and I 543 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: don't I don't get upset at them, you know, because 544 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: we two different walks of life and you them, you know, 545 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: they are them and not in me. So you know, 546 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: I took it with a little grain of salt. But 547 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: you know I also dial back on the things. You know, 548 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: that was kind of you know, rubbing people the wrong way. 549 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: And then when they kind of like understood me more 550 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: than I kind of you know, you know, letting them 551 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: in on a little bit you know so, but uh, 552 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: you know I ain't. I ain't really like never like 553 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: stop being myself. You know, I don't know how to 554 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: talk quiet because you know I grew I told you, 555 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: like you know, I grew up with ten brothers and sisters, 556 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: so like, you know, I was always trying to get 557 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: my opinion in or something like that. You know, even 558 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: if you know we not arguing it and we're just 559 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: debating about something like I'm gonna talk about because I 560 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: want my opinion to be hurt. Yeah, that's that's basically 561 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: what it is. But you know, they they was real 562 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: good last year. My teammates was real good and they 563 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: kind of like understood me, and you know it. You know, 564 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: it's the more place I kind of made And it 565 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: was like, all right, man, when maybe we got something, 566 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: maybe we gotta let him be himself. So when did uh? 567 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: You were one of my favorite guys that we had 568 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: Mike this year for a game. We put a mic 569 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: on you for the Tennessee game and it was awesome 570 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: because we've got to appreciate, Hey, your trash talk on 571 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: the field which was spectacular and be just like how 572 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: goofy you are on the field, Like you were tickling 573 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: a guy at the bottom of a pile. I don't 574 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: think that was me. That was somebody else. That was 575 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, that was you see, that was somebody else. 576 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: I don't know who that was, but I was. I 577 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: was right there and I was on the bottom of 578 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: the pile. But I want to tickle with nobody. But 579 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: I didn't hear that though. I didn't hear that. So 580 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna stick to my guns and said that 581 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: wanted me. But but on a on the video, you 582 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: did quote me saying, actual, y'all gotta y'all gotta take 583 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: those quotes off. So what is what is the weirdest 584 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: or most unusual thing that you've ever said or done 585 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: to get in the head of an opponent, because you 586 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: said you like to just get him kind of like 587 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: just off their game a little bit with your trash shocks. 588 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: So what's what's something weird that you can tell us about? 589 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: Ohn't know me, I don't. I just it's just a 590 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: trash talk y'all. Never remember, you don't never remember. You 591 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: never remember your good material. Something weird. If I had 592 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: a teammate, I had a teammate he used to like 593 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: Facebook search like the quarterbacks that we're about to play, 594 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: or the all he was he was a nose guard 595 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: or like the offensive alignment. Like he used to know 596 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: like if they had just had a niece or nephew. 597 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: Like he used to do something like m depth research. 598 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: He used to know everybody name. And I used to 599 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: be like, man, you like you wow, Like that's yeah, 600 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: that's just taking it. That's like too far. And that's 601 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you know your player, you know your opponent 602 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: inside out, but like you don't know the whole family 603 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: inside family history inside out. All right, So before we 604 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: let you go, what's the best thing that you've learned 605 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: from Terrelle Socks these two seasons? Best thing, it's it's 606 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: so much, but uh, I think the best thing is 607 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: like just just be yourself. I think, uh since day one, 608 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: and I think he will tell you this. He may 609 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: he may mistakes, and you know, through his way, and 610 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: you know, everybody takes their own path, but he always 611 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: stuck to his guns. He always knew who he was, 612 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: and uh, he always you know, came and came in 613 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: his building with an approach to get better. You know. 614 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: He he never you know, denounced anyone anyone of his 615 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: teammates or you know, saying that he was better than 616 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: them or you know, I mean a little bit. Yeah, yeah, 617 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: you know a little bit. But you know, he never 618 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: liked you know, trash talking, none of his teammates or 619 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: nothing like that. He's just he's just kepting like a 620 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: real a real business approach to the game. And you know, 621 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: you see it in his place. You see it in 622 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: his stats, and you know everything he's done and his 623 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: body of work you see it in. So you know, 624 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: he became you know, stay stay true to yourself, but 625 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: also come to work every day with a mindset agetting better. 626 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: Cool Matthew Judon, We appreciate it, man, Thank you very much. 627 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: Made a good dent in the Buffalo Chicken debt. All right, 628 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: thanks man, problem, thank you all right, So thank you, 629 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: matt good stuff. Just a funny dude. Man. I like 630 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: Matthew Judon a lot and a player. Yeah. I think 631 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: this dude, uh, he could be pretty soon a centerpiece 632 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: in this defense. I think he c J. You know, 633 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: Suggs isn't gonna be around for five more years, you know, 634 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: I think he c J and some of these other 635 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: younger guys, you know, Brandon Williams Pierce, some of those 636 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: young those young guys in the front seven, and he's 637 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: one of the major ones are going to be the 638 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: backbone of this defense. And I like I like him 639 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: Marl and Marlin Humphrey obviously Mary. I like his attitude 640 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: also that like everyone thinks it's kind of surprised that 641 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: he's playing this well, including yourself, and you know, not 642 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: by the question I asked him. But but he's like, 643 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: this is what I'm is to do. And I just 644 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,719 Speaker 1: like that attitude. He doesn't feel like he's doesn't belong. 645 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: You know. Sometimes when I could come in as a 646 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: late ground pick, as a small school guy and feel 647 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 1: like I don't know if I'm gonna hang. He doesn't 648 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: have that attitude at all. Well, when we did our 649 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 1: preseason predictions on the pod and we predicted breakout player 650 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: of the year, I know I took Matthews. You know, 651 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: he also took him to have the most sacks, which 652 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: was gonna be wrong, as I took girl sucks. So 653 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: here's hey, hey, we don't know that that's gonna be wrong. 654 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: We've got three more games. He's only four and a 655 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: half behind. Yeah, he can break out. He can break out, 656 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 1: but they come in bunches. They do come in bunches, 657 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: and he's got the podcast Bump. Now Suggs doesn't have 658 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 1: the podcast Bump, well, he has to the original podcast 659 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: Bump from last. Maybe get Sucks back here. If I 660 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: get sorry, if I started to get nervous about my prediction, 661 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to bring Sucks back to the podcast 662 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: give him the bump. Anyway, thank you all for listening. 663 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: We will make sure we have another great guest for you, 664 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: probably next week. We'll do our best, and as always, 665 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,919 Speaker 1: you can reach us at the lounge at Ravens dot 666 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: NFL dot net, leave a rating, review, good luck with 667 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: your holiday shopping, and we'll be back for you next week. 668 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: Spots stencipates the Bass, bas bast sits space spas pas 669 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: baspa