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Speaker 1: Welcome to Tuesdays and they should a big blue kickoff

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Speaker 1: wrapped up their latest O t a Jeff and some

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Speaker 1: news and notes from Pat Shermer following practice. Evan Ingram

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Speaker 1: is still nursing a hamstring injury, so they're not trying

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Speaker 1: something to that degree. So at this point they're holding

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Speaker 1: team for personal reasons. So this is what you get

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Speaker 1: during this time of the year. You have guys coming

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Speaker 1: in and out. I really don't think Jeff from your experience.

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Speaker 1: This is anything new at this time of the year,

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Speaker 1: but you just have two people want to know about it.

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Speaker 1: So there we go. It was something on there the

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Speaker 1: power of technology. That's it. Da've just turned it on. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just in divulging information because the press wants to

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Speaker 1: know where these guys are at. Why that they didn't

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Speaker 1: all the time, but pretty much it's that's what happens

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Speaker 1: this time of the year. Mini camp. You know, like

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Speaker 1: what the Giants are gonna do, along with a lot

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Speaker 1: Ingram here Jeff off the top, because clearly there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of tension on him. Injury has been synonymous with

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Speaker 1: that's more of a reason why if you're the Giants,

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Speaker 1: the last thing you want to do is put him

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, he's embraced this offseason with the

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Speaker 1: the problems you run into Evan Ingram is when he

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Speaker 1: has not been a hundred percent, and you know things

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Speaker 1: We're going forward. Okay, So Evan Ingram is not going

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Speaker 1: This week, Um, we're gonna get Golden Tate or Darius Slain,

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Speaker 1: You gotta have fourth quarter leads with four minutes left

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Speaker 1: in the game, and you use those rushing attempts if

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Speaker 1: you're winning, if you're winning, a majority of your football

431
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Speaker 1: games in the last six minutes of the game, you're

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Speaker 1: rushing attack will be You're gonna get a lot more attempts.

433
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Speaker 1: So you you take I don't know, ten more times

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Speaker 1: ten games. That's another maybe another hundred rushes added on

435
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Speaker 1: to what you just said, three seventy something. Now they're

436
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Speaker 1: up in the they're up in that number that you

437
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Speaker 1: want them to be. Um So I guess the answer

438
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Speaker 1: the question is when win and watch out for that train.

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Speaker 1: As I said, only statistics are well over four hundred

440
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Speaker 1: and fifty for the top tier teams and the Giants

441
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Speaker 1: with the probably the most predominant lead. The best back

442
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Speaker 1: in the league is at a much much lower level,

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Speaker 1: which is kind of surprising when I looked at the statistics. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think Scott. Part of that is also, just to

445
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Speaker 1: add to what Jeff said, the Giants struggled converting on

446
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Speaker 1: third down this season and in previous season's. Well why

447
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 1: did they struggle Because a lot of the downs were

448
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Speaker 1: not rushing manageable downs, which means you don't have a

449
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Speaker 1: great success rate on first and second down. So in

450
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Speaker 1: order to get your opportunities up, as you're mentioning, you've

451
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Speaker 1: got to be much more successful on first and second down,

452
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Speaker 1: so there's chances to actually run the ball on third

453
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Speaker 1: down and you're not just consistently throwing the The other

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Speaker 1: thing that I would add to your point about the

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Speaker 1: number of carries, as I bring up the numbers. To me,

456
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Speaker 1: it's more important about well what did you do with

457
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Speaker 1: the carries? Just like people that bring up time of

458
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Speaker 1: possession Scott Hey, you could hold the ball for thirty

459
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Speaker 1: five minutes a game, great, if you're not scoring touchdowns

460
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Speaker 1: with those drives, what good is it if you're putting

461
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Speaker 1: three points up. So a lot of the teams you

462
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Speaker 1: brought up, the Seahawks, the Ravens, the Rams, not only

463
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Speaker 1: are they up there in terms of carry numbers, which

464
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Speaker 1: they all had nearly four hundred sixty or better, but

465
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Speaker 1: they also equated that to a hundred six, hundred fifty

466
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Speaker 1: three and a hundred forty rushing yards per game, respectively.

467
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Speaker 1: So it's not so much volume. What are you doing

468
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Speaker 1: with the volume that is important? Well, the Giants average

469
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Speaker 1: four point seven yards per attempt, which is actually pretty

470
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Speaker 1: good for the league, Yet they only had the yards

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Speaker 1: per game of a hundred and three, which was towards

472
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Speaker 1: the bottom. You know, bottom tier of the league. So

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering, are they set up to be a rushing

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Speaker 1: attack type of team. I know it's a past happy league,

475
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Speaker 1: but what I'm querying and what I'm trying to concentrate

476
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Speaker 1: on getting to the playoffs is the key for the

477
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Speaker 1: Giants and to do that, as I've already outlined, these

478
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Speaker 1: teams have to be able to run the football and

479
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Speaker 1: the Giants were able to do that effectively when as

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Speaker 1: far as its the average that they were doing, which

481
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Speaker 1: was four point seven, which is towards the higher end

482
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Speaker 1: of the league. So what what's what's missing? Is it

483
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Speaker 1: in the actual blocking that they're doing. Because I was

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Speaker 1: looking at Pro Football Focuses a rating of some of

485
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Speaker 1: the blockers on the Giants parts run blocking, and it

486
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Speaker 1: might surprise you because they had the will hern Anders

487
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Speaker 1: who's really a top pass block but not a very

488
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,479
Speaker 1: good run blocker, and I know he can improve, so

489
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Speaker 1: that's not an area. I know both Seidler and Soldier

490
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Speaker 1: are good run blockers. But if you look at the

491
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Speaker 1: other side with Rams and granted, Remors was out of

492
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Speaker 1: position at right guard at Minnesota, but his overall rating

493
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Speaker 1: wasn't that it wasn't that great. So are there issues

494
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Speaker 1: at how Hunter is going to be working on to

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Speaker 1: actually improve that statistics so they become a good ruin

496
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Speaker 1: blocking force. Well, you hope, I hope, and I think

497
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Speaker 1: that and thank you. It's a matter of first and

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Speaker 1: second downs. In my opinion, like you said, you gotta

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Speaker 1: be better production on those two downs. You get yourself

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Speaker 1: in manageable third downs. If you have to run the

501
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Speaker 1: football and convert a third and short. Third and one,

502
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Speaker 1: you can do it. Third and three you can still

503
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Speaker 1: hand the football off. But third and seven, third and six,

504
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Speaker 1: you're not. You're not You're not running the football there

505
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Speaker 1: unless you're gonna give up and just you know, punt

506
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Speaker 1: the ball away. But I think that this group of

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Speaker 1: veteran live offensive a lignements the Giants have gotten on

508
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Speaker 1: this team will help the run game. I think that's

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Speaker 1: the I think that's the indicator. I think the Giants

510
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Speaker 1: want to run the football because you're right, they have

511
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Speaker 1: one of the better running backs in the league. It

512
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Speaker 1: would be a shame not to give him the football. Well,

513
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Speaker 1: and I think that to your point, the more legitimate

514
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Speaker 1: at bats you have you should help the numbers because

515
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Speaker 1: it's one thing to have in at bat meeting an opportunity.

516
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Speaker 1: That that's why I use that baseball terminology and football.

517
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Speaker 1: But then it's about what do you do with the opportunity.

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Speaker 1: How reasonable is it, Jeff, for you to actually consider

519
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Speaker 1: running the football? For example, if it's third and six,

520
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Speaker 1: highly unlikely you're gonna be running the football. If it's

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Speaker 1: third and four and less, I think that the chances

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Speaker 1: increased that you have the ability to perhaps run the football.

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Speaker 1: So once again, that's all based on first and second

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Speaker 1: down and the other thing that I wanted to throw out, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: and and you tell me if you disagree. Scott pointed

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Speaker 1: out that, well, if you look at the Giants finishing

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Speaker 1: with a four point seven yardage per carry, that's a

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Speaker 1: respectable number. And he's right, they were tied for seven

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Speaker 1: to the NFL, but they did finish with only a

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Speaker 1: hundred three yards per game, which was twenty four in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. I would argue, and this is not me

532
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Speaker 1: trying to be ultra critical, but I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of Barkley's big runs Jeff skewed the numbers, so meaning

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Speaker 1: you know, it would be one yard two yards negative

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Speaker 1: three negative to one yard two yards sixty eight yard rush,

536
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Speaker 1: and let's face it, that helps make the average look

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Speaker 1: more respectable. Right. So the question is if, if you

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Speaker 1: look at last season, Jeff, would you claim that Barkley's

539
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Speaker 1: dynamics help look make those numbers look better than perhaps

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Speaker 1: the meat and potato showed over the course of the season.

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Speaker 1: So I think you have to look at it through

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Speaker 1: that way. Now, does that mean that they can't improve. No.

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Speaker 1: I think the Giants going into this season, which is

544
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Speaker 1: where the offensive line comes into play, the tight end play,

545
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Speaker 1: Jeff is well, how do we become a more effective

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Speaker 1: team on third and two, on fourth and one, where

547
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Speaker 1: we're confident we're gonna run the football. The defense and

548
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Speaker 1: knows we're gonna run the football and we're gonna convert.

549
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Speaker 1: That's where I think they're looking to take it up

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Speaker 1: a notch come this season. And I do think that

551
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Speaker 1: comes with perhaps better personnel on the right side, but

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Speaker 1: it's gonna have to be shown. I don't think you

553
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: just insert members in Zeitler. You could quote me all

554
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: the pro football focused numbers doesn't mean much of anything.

555
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Speaker 1: I also think that if you can get a little

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Speaker 1: bit more production on first and second down and take

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Speaker 1: away some of those negative plays at four point seven,

558
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Speaker 1: even because you know that se Kwan is going to

559
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Speaker 1: have his big plays. That's just the way he runs,

560
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Speaker 1: and it's just the way it's gonna be, which is

561
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Speaker 1: a good thing. But if you can get some good

562
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Speaker 1: production on first and second down and stay away from

563
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Speaker 1: the negative plays, that four seven can easily turn into

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Speaker 1: four nine five. Oh and and then you have a

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Speaker 1: little more substance. And we could be talking about this

566
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Speaker 1: next season and say, well, you know, the years passed,

567
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Speaker 1: the years we look at all the negative runs and

568
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Speaker 1: in one yard here, zero yards here, But in two

569
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Speaker 1: thousand nineteen, look at all the look at the improvement

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Speaker 1: you had on first and second down and some of

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Speaker 1: the run game. That's where that would that would relate

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Speaker 1: to better production and more winning football game. I can

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Speaker 1: tell you that in a second, because you know, first fact,

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Speaker 1: it's very difficult, third and long to make first downs

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's tough and all. It just predicates

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00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: itself on those plays on first and second down. The

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Speaker 1: other thing you have to look at two is penalties.

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00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: Is penalties on that offensive line or penalties on the

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Speaker 1: offense that put you in first and long and second

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Speaker 1: and long, so everything kind of correlates into why you

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Speaker 1: just have to improve on those wise And I tell

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Speaker 1: you every offseason, all the coaches, no matter what position

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Speaker 1: it is, if you're an offensive line coach or you're

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Speaker 1: a defensive line coach, secondary coach, you are assigned. You

585
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 1: almost you have like homework. You've got to do research

586
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: projects and you go in and you research that your

587
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: own position groups and come up with things to improve on.

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00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 1: So all these coaches are doing this in the Aussee

589
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: you're wondering what they're doing. Well, they're getting ready for

590
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: free agency and they're doing it, but they're staying here

591
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: late working on a lot of this stuff to try

592
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: to figure out how we can get better and what

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00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 1: we need to do. Because there there's a reporter. They

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Speaker 1: have to report this back to the head coach and

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Speaker 1: the general manager and the scouting department because this is

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00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: how they this is how they basically break down their personnel.

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00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 1: If if you if we've got a problem in the

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Speaker 1: run game, why is it? And how Hunter is going

599
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: to have to come up with the report and shows

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Speaker 1: this is why we didn't do this. We had penalties

601
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: here and we didn't do this. This guy stunk, that's

602
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: why he's no longer here. This guy is really good

603
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: and he's getting better and those kinds of things. So

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00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 1: sorry to babble on, but that's just the way it goes,

605
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: of course, because you've got to go beyond just the surface.

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00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: You sometimes have to do exactly well. And Jeff, that's

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Speaker 1: related to during the bye week why you always her

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00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 1: coaches say we self evaluated ourselves, right, that's when they

609
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: do things like that, and because they you know there

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Speaker 1: and also you like to have the defense evaluate the

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00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: offense and vice versa, because a lot of times you

612
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: get stuck in your ways and your tendencies. You have

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00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: blinders on and you don't figure out those tendencies from

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00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: an opponent standpoint, if you're offensive or defensively standpoint. So

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00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: if you're an offensive line, your offense is running this,

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00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: this and this and this, and you need the defensive

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00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: coaches to say to you, hey, I can recognize this

618
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: in a mile away because you guys do it every week.

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Speaker 1: I see it, I see it. We need to do

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00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: this is something that predictable exactly. So if I'm a

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator and I'm evaluating the Giants offense. I'm going

622
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: to look at things that I would do if I

623
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Speaker 1: was on another football team, and that's what they do.

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00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: They try to help each other. Now that's just not

625
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: during the bye week. They're doing it every week, just

626
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: be able to help each other out. So, um, it

627
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: doesn't always work. Sometimes you overthink things, which, by the way,

628
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Speaker 1: coaches always do well. Even Sean McVeigh admitted that the

629
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: Rams head coach came out a few weeks after the

630
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: watch too much film correct. He said it was overload.

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Speaker 1: I regretted doing that. So that's what happened. When you

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Speaker 1: get two weeks in between a game, you give two

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00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: weeks to a coach, forget about boy, he'll lock himself

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Speaker 1: in that room. Yeah, that's why they take a week

635
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: of evaluation self scout during the during the bye week,

636
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: because they can't give him two weeks to do enough.

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Speaker 1: Just you know, game plan for that next opponent. Who

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Speaker 1: was the bye? When is the bye this? You know

639
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: it's after that New England game November. Yeah, that's a Thursday,

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Speaker 1: so they have ten games. It's a pretty late by, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think, isn't it Okay? Right after the jetsam No.

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Speaker 1: Ten it's right. Yeah, wow, that is a late yea

643
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Speaker 1: relatively late by that really as a player, that's stunk.

644
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Speaker 1: I I used to love to buy after like the

645
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Speaker 1: fifth game, But then what did you regret? Then you

646
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: have to go, you know, because because you get figured.

647
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Speaker 1: You you got a month of training camp, you got

648
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Speaker 1: a month of preseason games, and then you've got a

649
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: month of regular season games. You're ready for a break.

650
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: And then to finish, you only have you know what,

651
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: thirteen weeks left or twelve weeks left. So your your

652
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: mindset is you're considering training camp and everything you went

653
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Speaker 1: through in training. Absolutely, if if you just if you

654
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: just started everything game September one, yeah, then you don't

655
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: want to buy in week three? No I would. Yeah.

656
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: So I'm telling you just it makes a big difference

657
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: because you know what, not only on the body, but

658
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: mentally because you've gone, you've gone through training camp and

659
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: and it's a grind. I don't care how they do

660
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: it now or when they did it late you know,

661
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: years ago, it's still a grind. And then you have

662
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: the preseason games and then you know you kind of

663
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: so it's it's a mental thing. Like after the fifth

664
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Speaker 1: week sixth week, you're ready to take your break, and

665
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: usually you know you get a good five or five

666
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: days off that that can do a lot for you

667
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: recharge reset, especially if you're having a good season. You

668
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: know you're coming off to buy, you're going you're going

669
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: into your buy and you're you know, you're days week

670
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: six and you're four and four and two. Maybe that

671
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: would be a great thing. One other stat I want

672
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: to throw out before we head back to the phone lines,

673
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: related to what we were talking about the importance of

674
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: first and second down. Here's just total first downs last season, Jeff.

675
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: The Giants in the NFL just total first down two

676
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: ninety seven. Now, to put things in perspective, the Rams

677
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: number one in the NFL ultimately made the Super Bowl

678
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: four one, and the Patriots also were in the top

679
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: ten at three sixty. So when you're low just in

680
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: total first downs, I mean, that's a sign that the

681
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: efficiency on first and second down is not where it

682
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: should be. So that to me is the stat that

683
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: the Giants need to target and we've got to get

684
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: better in that degree. If they're having conversations amongst themselves

685
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: as opposed to some of these other numbers that people

686
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: may bring up here there and what what's what's what

687
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: was the RAMS third down conversion? Third down conversion rate?

688
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: Let's see for the RAMS fifth overall in the NFL,

689
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: Colts were number one, just to provide perspective at so

690
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: they were right up there and New England was just

691
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: outside the top ten at And somebody actually asked a

692
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: similar question a few weeks ago, you know, what would

693
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: be a good target rate for efficiency on third down?

694
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: When you get to forty, I think you're in a

695
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: very good position. Chet, no question. Do you shoot for fifty?

696
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: I mean again nobody made it, but but you do

697
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: you do shoot for fifty in a game? Okay, because

698
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: statistically knowing through sixteen games it's very difficult to get um,

699
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: nobody did it, but as a goal that you try

700
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: to do it. Now there's the game worth you know,

701
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: you're sevent Sometimes just so happens, there's games you're ten

702
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: percent less than ten percent, which is why the law

703
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: of average is key. I mean, the Giants have been

704
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: one of one on eleven sometimes. I mean it was

705
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: really had rough games, no doubt about it. And it's

706
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: all goes back to those first couple of downs and

707
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: you know, so yes, I think a good goal is fifteen.

708
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: But you know, if you're once you hit thet I

709
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: think you're right on because to me, through sixteen games,

710
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: if you end up at forty something percent, that means

711
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: of those sixteen games, maybe seven or eight of them,

712
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: you were higher than for which equates to wins, winning football,

713
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: third down convergence, keeping the ball and then going down

714
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: and getting some points. Well, and here's a perfect example.

715
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: I'm bringing up my third down charts from last season.

716
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: You have this speaks to exactly what you just said.

717
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: Week five at the Panthers O for seven on third down,

718
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: no coincidence. They lost that game. Week six against the Eagles.

719
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: The following week for a fourteen on third down. Okay, Now,

720
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: Week eight against the Redskins to a fourth team. That

721
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: was the game where Adrian Peterson had the big rushing

722
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: touchdown late two of fourteen. They were in that game.

723
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: And then let me throw out one more example, Week

724
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: fifteen against Tennessee here at MetLife Stadium, rough Weather. But

725
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: putting that aside, three of sixteen on third down and

726
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: they lost all of those games that I just mentioned.

727
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: Not a coincidence. You you will lose you're definitely winning

728
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: those losing those games. There's no question. When you're three

729
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: of sixteen, no no doubt, you're gonna lose. There's no

730
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: way unless the other team is less than that, or well,

731
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: unless the other team turned the ball over five times

732
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: and you scored touchdowns off of that. Jeff, I'd say

733
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a very tough position to be in. Yeah,

734
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: And I think that when when this, if you go

735
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,959
Speaker 1: back and look at the games that this offense really

736
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: rolled and did well, look what their third down percentages

737
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: are and look at their turnover ratios, that's when you

738
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: win games, two very important statistical categories. Let's head back

739
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 1: to the phone lines. Choose five, one three. We've got

740
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: Dave in Cranford. Dave, welcome to a program. What do

741
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: you have for us, Jeff, Jeff Lance, how are you

742
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: guys doing today? Good? Hey, Lance? I wanted to just

743
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: highlight because the last couple of days seems like there's

744
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: been some of our famous callers kind of picking on

745
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: on the offensive line and the depth and all that.

746
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: And you know I had called in a little while

747
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: ago Lansing. You made a great point. We talk a

748
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: lot about um the improvement over time with the left

749
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: side of the line, in particular with Hernandez and Solder.

750
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: But you brought the point um around just kind of like,

751
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: you know, juxtaposition of saying, hey, they got better and better,

752
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: but they played together for sixteen games, and you said, hey, guys,

753
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: remember that Wheeler who started in game three of the

754
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: season two of Flowers and then we went to Houston.

755
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: He started that first game, he had three different guards

756
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: next to him. UM. And and really if you look

757
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: at as a matter of fact, if you look at

758
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: the Giant statistics almost across the board, you can really

759
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: see it difference in their offense, you know, um, from

760
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: week eight and beyond, their statistics on almost every category

761
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: are a lot different. Um. You know, not necessarily all

762
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: that great either one, but but but very different. And

763
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: I thought it was a great point. And I guess

764
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: the point that I was really trying to get to

765
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: with that, I think if Wheeler ends up being our

766
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: backup or swing tackle, I think, you know, given that

767
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: he had whatever that is, with the fourteen games that

768
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: he played last year, you know, his second year in

769
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: the system, another year in the offseason program. You know,

770
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I want to go into this

771
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: season with him as my starting right tackle. But if

772
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: you said to me that he had to come in

773
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: and play two or three games here or there in

774
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: order to fill in for a game or two, I

775
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: think you could in the league right now, look look

776
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: at it this way. The Redskins at this point possibly

777
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: could be starting Eric Flowers as their left tackle in Washington. Okay,

778
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: John Jerry just resigned, you know, Bobby Harts and Cincinnati.

779
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: I mean, there's not a whole lot of other quality.

780
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: I think Wheeler is a pretty good back up in

781
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: that in that role well, and that was my main point.

782
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: If you look across the league, it's not as if

783
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: every team has the luxury of an All Pro guy

784
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: sitting on the bench just waiting for his name to

785
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: be called. So, yeah, you're right, players get recycled. I'm

786
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: not trying to be disrespectful, but guys get cut from

787
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: one team, Jeff Right, You've seen a tons of times,

788
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, they get starting opportunities elsewhere

789
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: because the offensive line coach or that scheme thinks that

790
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: they can tap in to some more of his potential. Now,

791
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: in fairness, by the way, Bobby Hart played relatively well

792
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: with Cincinnati last year, so he does deserve some credit.

793
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't as if you know, it was just them

794
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: taking a chance. I mean he actually I thought had

795
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: a very respectable season with what they had to deal with.

796
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: But your point is well taken. There's no doubt about

797
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: a Dave that the Giants, at least the fan base,

798
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: I think, needs to put things in perspective, Jeff. And

799
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 1: you can even I think shed more light on this

800
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: that every team doesn't just lose their starting left tackle

801
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: and then a guy with two seasons of starting experience

802
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: is waiting on the bench ready to go. I mean,

803
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: how many teams have that luxury, Jeff? Not? Probably none.

804
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 1: I mean unless it's a veteran guy that's been there. Yeah,

805
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: this is this is all about developing your depth and

806
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 1: having guys there. And you know you're not gonna unless

807
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: you you are in a in a situation where you

808
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: have a personnel director or GM that says you know

809
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: what the depth is gonna be veterans. I want veteran guys.

810
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: They're playing for veteran minimums. I love experience. That's what

811
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: I want. And then then they do that. But I

812
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: mean how are you going to build your offensive line

813
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: for the future if you don't have any young youth

814
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: behind it being able to replenish what's going forward. So

815
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: I think it is difficult. It is, but I agree

816
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: Wheeler as a guy you can plug and play him. Okay,

817
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: I mean he's he played with a lot of different

818
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: guys last year. He's used to having somebody different next

819
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: to him, and he can certainly come in there and

820
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: can fill a void for as many games as you need.

821
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: And he has to remember, Ramors is not a spring chicken,

822
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: so you gotta understand to get him through sixteen game

823
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: being the right tackle is probably not gonna happen. So

824
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: I think you have to be extremely not excited, but

825
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: happy the fact that you've got Wheeler who played fourteen games.

826
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: If it was um that you've got a good experience

827
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: backup and knows the system and exposed to the system.

828
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: He hasn't just been a backup throughout the course of

829
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: his career, so you know, to me, the mindset of

830
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: a backup is always if he needed to start two

831
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: or three games, do you feel as if that player

832
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: knows the system is serviceable and can hold up. I

833
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: think that's part of the philosophy. It's not as if

834
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,959
Speaker 1: you're settling. It's just you have confidence that they're going

835
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: to not hurt you or it's not going to come

836
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: back to haunt you. You can get through X amount

837
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: of games with that. In this situation, you can because

838
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: you've got a guy that started for your fourteen games

839
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 1: last year, okay, and second half of the season much

840
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: better than the first half, and so that gives you

841
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: some confidence there. And I think the big the big

842
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 1: thing for me is I just again that's the backup

843
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: and and and Pulley into that mix, or whether it's

844
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: how a po you know, either one, you're gonna have

845
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: kind of the same the same result. Whoever the starter is,

846
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: You've you've got somebody behind you know him that can

847
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: you know, so you're really so to me, it comes

848
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 1: down to because I just don't know on the fifty

849
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: three that they can keep more than eight offensive linemen

850
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: just because of other position groups. But so it comes

851
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: down to really one more one more spot, whether it's

852
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: Big George or or some of the other you know,

853
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: a couple of good centers slash guards that they have

854
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: on the on the lineup today, But but again, I

855
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: think the thing that's lost on this team and the

856
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: reason that I would more confidently even with losing O'Dell

857
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: and losing Landing, I still think that this team going

858
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: into this season UM has has a lot of confidence,

859
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: is going to to hang their hat on the fact

860
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: that because of the improvement, particularly on the interior of

861
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: the offensive line. The the issue there is that you're

862
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: you're benefiting the best player on the field, which is

863
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: which is Barkley, and then you're really also benefiting the

864
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: second most important player or maybe the most important player

865
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: on the field, which is Eli or whoever is behind center,

866
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: in terms of just the time that they have. And

867
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: I think in a league where it's not about just establishing,

868
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: you know, the best players, it's about the most value

869
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: that I can get for those players because it's a

870
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: salary cap sport, so I have to make decisions between priorities,

871
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: and I think the Giants this year, more than any time,

872
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: I think they've got it right. So I'd love to

873
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: hear your guys thoughts, And like I always, I always

874
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: appreciate guys listening to me. Well, I appreciate you calling,

875
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: and I think that's a really great point that he

876
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: just raised at the talent of his phone call, and

877
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: I'll take it a step further. I think what he

878
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 1: was tapping into, Jeff is decisions in the National Football

879
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: League are made in a fraction of a second. So

880
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: nobody's saying that you need an all Pro and a

881
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: Pro bowler at every position. But if the improvement of

882
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: the offensive line gives Elie an additional action of a second,

883
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: that could very well be the difference between a first

884
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: down each and every game, the ability to move the

885
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: football and continue a drive each and every game. That

886
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: can't be overlooked. You can't break down football by just saying, well,

887
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 1: you want to go from seventeen to twenty four points

888
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: a game. It's baby steps. It's the minute details. And

889
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: if the line gives you a fraction of a second

890
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: for the quarterback to just wait, just to get the

891
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: timing down with the wide receiver so he could get

892
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: open in separation, that could be an additional first down.

893
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: If there's the difference of an offensive lineman getting to

894
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: the next layer to allow say Kwan Barkley to get

895
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: an additional two yards. There you see production improved elsewhere. Yep.

896
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: And also a fraction of a second could be the

897
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: meaning of maybe an interception and not an interception, and

898
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: also injury. I mean just just one fraction of a second.

899
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: You know, Eli doesn't get rid of the ball and

900
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: he gets you know, his arm gets hurt or something happens.

901
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 1: It's just it's you gotta you put your faith in

902
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: that offensive line to give your quarterback time to operate.

903
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: And believe me, it's a it's a it's a game

904
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: of inches, and it's a game of fractions of seconds. Listen, punting,

905
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: believe it or not. The punt is one point nine

906
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: to two point oh seconds. That's how fast it is

907
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 1: by the time the ball is snapped to me catching

908
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: it and kicking it. A field goal is one point

909
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: three seconds. Folks, think about that. Snap to hold the

910
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: kick is one point three seconds. One thousand gone. Yeah,

911
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: you better do something with it. You better be good

912
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: at catching, putting it down, and get your hands out

913
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 1: of there. Let's head back to the phone lines. Brandon

914
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: is in New Jersey. Brandon, welcome the Big Blue Kick

915
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: Off Live. What do you have for us? Yes, what's

916
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: going on? To please man? But I'm gonna put my

917
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shed a little bit light. What I think

918
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: is going on, man two things. Yeah, I feel like

919
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: it's going to happen. I feel like the Giants is

920
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: going to be overwhelmed of looking at Daniel Jones and

921
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: manicamp and training camp and Russian on the field. Everything

922
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: that I'm hearing right now, Pat Sherman is changing his words.

923
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: Everybody's dancing around the fact that, oh, well, Eli is

924
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: going to be the starter. But now we said we're

925
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: going to play the best place. Yeah, So that's telling

926
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: me that players on the team might be thinking that

927
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: Danny Jones might be the best starter from from what

928
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: I'm hearing. But well, from who are you hearing that?

929
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: From my point? Let me finish my point first before

930
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: you jump in. Well, I mean, in order to have

931
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: a good conversation, Brandon, there has to be some back

932
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 1: and forth. You made the claim that from what you're hearing.

933
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 1: So what my question to you is, what's your source

934
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: who exactly said the words that Daniel Jones is gonna

935
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: be the starter? The media. No, I'm not saying that

936
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the starter. NBC UH Pro Football talking

937
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: saying that past Sherman is saying. Now he's dancing around

938
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: his words saying that, oh, well, Eli, he's going to

939
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: be the starter, but we're going to play the best player.

940
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: Like dude, Dan Jones has the mind that Eli has

941
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: le have the type of experience to get through the

942
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: season that the boys should watch it. Don't rush him

943
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: more to still and Ruin. I like him too, Don't

944
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: give me wrong. I like him. I think he's going

945
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: to be a good player for us, but don't rush

946
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: him and trying to push Ela to the side and say, oh,

947
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: well he's the best player because you're still seeing him

948
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: moving around and many camp a little bit. Well, he

949
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: kept the re option and ran and it's a little

950
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: bit ooze. And don't get caught up in all of that.

951
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: Let's just let's let's let's say and I don't think

952
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: anybody disagrees with you, Brandon, and the reason why as

953
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: well well bredon I'll let you make your point. I'm

954
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: bringing up that Pro football talk dot Com article and

955
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: I'm not throwing you onto the bus, but this is

956
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: why it's important to read and and get direct quotes.

957
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: And once again, this is not an indictment of you,

958
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: but I'm reading the article line it specifically quotes Pat

959
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: Shermer as he has saying, quote, we're gonna play the

960
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: very best player. Okay, he does quote that, but they

961
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: also quote from Shermer, we feel good where Eli is.

962
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 1: He's our starting quarterback, and we've got a young player

963
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 1: that we think is going to be an outstanding player

964
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: getting himself ready to play. End quote. Now another quote,

965
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 1: and that now Shermer adds quote, I'm not trying to

966
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: be cryptic about it. It is what I said. It

967
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: is Eli is getting ready to have an outstanding year

968
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: and Daniel is getting ready to play. That's really about it.

969
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: End quote. I mean, once again you can look at

970
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: the beautiful headline. Pat Shermer says Giants will play the

971
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 1: very best player quarterbacks historically from what the GM's been saying.

972
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to put past Sherman too much

973
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: in it because he I didn't really see him dancing

974
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 1: around too much about what he was saying before about

975
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: the Odell situation. That's long gone. But this past this

976
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: shows this gentlemanation never stands up to Wood. He said

977
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna really a yeah, Elo is going to be

978
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: the start up. But before you know, Els probably thrown

979
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: under the bus and we're throwing Daniel Jones out there

980
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 1: week Once that happen, I would say that that that's

981
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: pretty much a stretch. Listen, Brandon, is we will Is

982
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,439
Speaker 1: it possible Daniel Jones, as Jeff mentioned earlier, gets into

983
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: games because of how games play out this season? I

984
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: don't think that's crazy. And is it possible if the

985
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: Giants are at a blowout, regardless of what side of

986
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: the equation is is, could Daniel Jones get in Week two?

987
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: I don't think that's crazy to speculate about. We got

988
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: the easiest schedule in the league. There's no way we

989
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 1: should be getting blown out. There's no way we should

990
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: be losing James. Is this the simple fact that or

991
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: if that, If that's the case, this team is just

992
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: going to be just well, once again, before I let

993
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: you continue, Brandon, before you make claims that it's the

994
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: easiest schedule in the NFL, just just understand that that's

995
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: based on records from last season, which is completely irrelevant

996
00:47:53,120 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: to two thou nineteen. Absolutely, yeah, what you got. Second line,

997
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: I believe that the starters is gonna be Nate Soldier.

998
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: Will he then does PO? You know ze Ler and

999
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: I believe they want Remors to win it, but I

1000
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: don't believe that Remors is too much better than Willar,

1001
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: like the God was saying earlier, we don't know if

1002
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: he's too much better than Chad Willer to beat out

1003
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: the position. Yeah, they want Remors to to win the

1004
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: right tackle position, and I still believe that we still

1005
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: have two holes on the right tax position in the center,

1006
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: because I don't believe that Po showed me enough that

1007
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: he's a starter caliber center in this league now until

1008
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: he showed me different, I still believe there's still a

1009
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: whole at center and that right tackle. So it fully

1010
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: is not the answer as well either. So it still

1011
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: might be a problem this year with the with the

1012
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: offensive line, So Giant says, might need to get ready

1013
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: for that. And don't get to misunderstanding thinking that all

1014
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,479
Speaker 1: we fixed everything in one year. Yeah, we got better,

1015
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 1: but let's let's see how things play out. Absolutely well.

1016
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: We we gotta see these guys put the pads on.

1017
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: Most important Brandon will let you go on that note. See,

1018
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: I would like to see Rimors start at right tackle

1019
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: over Chad Willis. I would like to see that because

1020
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: I believe that's the best, the best Bob po Zettler

1021
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: rams that right talking when we know and then well

1022
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: and Ramors has much more experience. Brandon would be the start.

1023
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: But I don't know if MS is too much better

1024
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: than Chad will or the or the kids that we

1025
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: drafted this year. I like his body free and everything.

1026
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: How people doing it well? Once again, Brandon, and I'll

1027
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: let you go on that note and appreciate you. With George,

1028
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: Big George who he is referring to, they haven't put

1029
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: the pads on. So I mean for Jeff and I

1030
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: to sit here and tell you, boy, this guy looks

1031
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: unbelievable with his jersey and his shorts on. All that

1032
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 1: would be doing is adding hyperbole to the conversation. The

1033
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: true evaluation, Jeff of offensive lineman comes during training camp

1034
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: and they get the pads on individual drills. Were they

1035
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: able to go one on one contact and be able

1036
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: to evaluate the guys that are right now? They're only there.

1037
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 1: Only evaluation is what they did in college and maybe

1038
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: in some you know, some of these senior ball games

1039
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: where they were able to practice all week against other

1040
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: players going full speed. Right now, there's no full speed

1041
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: out here, there's no pads, there's I mean it's not

1042
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: it's not a great evaluation that the evaluation is going

1043
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: on some footwork. Are you able to comprehend what we're

1044
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: putting in front of you and meeting rooms and carrying

1045
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: over to the football field things like that. Okay? Yeah,

1046
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: And it's black and white as far as like offensive

1047
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: linement defensive linement, it's all about contact. It has to

1048
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: be like throwing the football to receivers. Yeah, we can

1049
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: grade you for that because that's what you do. It's

1050
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: it's very black and white. It's you know, you run around,

1051
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: I throw you the ball, either catch it or you don't,

1052
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: or I throw it over your head or I don't.

1053
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: That's really easy to evaluate that way. No, I think

1054
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 1: it's spot on, Jeff, in terms of what you just said.

1055
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes we read way too much into this time of

1056
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: the year real quickly before we head back to the lines. Dave,

1057
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: are great, do sir providing additional context in terms of

1058
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 1: that last article that the last caller referred to. Sherman

1059
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: and his press conference today was asked this specific question.

1060
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: This is exactly how it was worded. Is there a

1061
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 1: scenario where Daniel can win the starting job in training

1062
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: gain that was an exact question that was closed. So

1063
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 1: once again, this is how headlines get out of whack.

1064
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: So this was Shermer's answer quote, I think we're going

1065
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: to play the very best player, and I know we

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Speaker 1: are dancing around the words there. He even said we're

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Speaker 1: dancing around the words there. Right now, Eli is getting

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Speaker 1: ready to have a great year and Daniel is getting

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Speaker 1: ready to play. He was asked a specific question and

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Speaker 1: as opposed to giving a no comment answer, Jeff right,

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Speaker 1: which a lot of coaches turned to, He's gonna give

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Speaker 1: an answer. He's gonna give that. He's gonna give that

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Speaker 1: answer sooner or later. If people keep popping this question

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Speaker 1: over and over and listen, folks, they Eli Manning, okay,

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Speaker 1: is in the last year of his contract making twenty

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Speaker 1: something million dollars. He is not sitting on the bench

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Speaker 1: until he has to period. And it's not gonna happen

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Speaker 1: in minicamp or O t A S. Is there gonna

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Speaker 1: be a decision made on it? I mean, come on, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: just just seriously, just from more chuckles. Here's two other

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Speaker 1: questions which I'm sure we're going to get the blood

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Speaker 1: pressure rising, pat, can you see any scenario in which

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Speaker 1: Jones is your staughter in week one, so they basically

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Speaker 1: they took now a different wording of the question. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Eli man, he got hurt in the preseason, so Sherman.

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Speaker 1: Sherman answers, Oh, you never know what's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: But as I said, Eli is getting ready to play,

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Speaker 1: and so is Daniel. And then now a follow up question,

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Speaker 1: so Eli is the starter? Okay, they wanted a firm answer, quote,

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Speaker 1: Eli is the starter and this guy is getting ready

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Speaker 1: to play. And what I fight comical is when you

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Speaker 1: don't like how the first question is answered, try to

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00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: tweak the words and see if maybe you can manufacture

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Speaker 1: a better answer, even though you're asking the same exact question.

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Speaker 1: This is what happened. God bless him for having patience.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have so much patience with that. First of all,

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00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: I'd be like, I call it gut out, but it

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00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: was whoever it was, or he or she? Why are

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00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: you asking me this question every single day? What is

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Speaker 1: going to change? There's nothing gonna change. We've already told

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Speaker 1: you that Eli is the starter. What else do you

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Speaker 1: want us to do? Is? Well, you know what Daniel

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00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: Jones is really throwing the ball so much better than

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning and May and June. Is that a chance

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00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: for he can No, it's not a chance. It's not unbelievable. Listen,

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Speaker 1: this is my advice to fans before we quickly head

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Speaker 1: back to the lines. Here, if you have the time,

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00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: and I understand everybody doesn't have the time. Every transcript

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00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: is posted on giants dot com. If every press conference

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Speaker 1: Pat Srmer does, and more often than not, the video

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00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: is up. Take the time to watch the full Q

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Speaker 1: and A. Because quotes are taking out context. Yes you

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Speaker 1: know this, Okay, Yes, they want to build the article

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Speaker 1: so you will list you will read it. So the

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Speaker 1: headline says Pat Shermer, whatever the headline was for Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Talk, we'll play the best person at quarterback? Well,

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Speaker 1: right now, who's the best person? You have a fifteen

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Speaker 1: year veteran at quarterback who's won two Super Bowls and

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Speaker 1: two m v ps. I can tell you who the

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Speaker 1: better quarterback at this juncture is right now. I can't

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Speaker 1: wait for the next headline tomorrow. Zach diss in line

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Speaker 1: to be the starting quarterback. Let's head back to the lines.

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Speaker 1: Andrew is in Massachusetts. Andrew, welcome to Big Blue Kickoff Live.

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Speaker 1: What's happening, Hey, guys, how you doing good? Doing well?

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Speaker 1: What do you got for us? Just talming to talk

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Speaker 1: about the offensive line a little bit. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: a big fan of the Zitler signing for sure, and

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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people are praying that remors

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Speaker 1: you know, panned out well. But I mean I know

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Speaker 1: a lot of good offensive lines over the years. You

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Speaker 1: look back any year with the Super Bowl winning teams,

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Speaker 1: they might not be chock full of talent and Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl calibert or a lot of the way it is

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Speaker 1: and the way they meshed together and everything, and I

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Speaker 1: know a lot of that is obviously built up through

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Speaker 1: the consistency and playing each game. And I mean ramors

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Speaker 1: obviously injuring history and stuff. I just kind of wanted

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Speaker 1: your guys thoughts on you know how if maybe he's

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Speaker 1: on like a week right, we basis, at some point

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Speaker 1: we gotta throw a wheeler in there, maybe, like I

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Speaker 1: don't know, something like that. Just how how well you

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Speaker 1: think they can stay consistent and how quickly they might

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Speaker 1: be able to get that same kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: meshing together that they're actually playing super well. Well, Andrew,

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Speaker 1: it's a great question. We'll let you go on that

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Speaker 1: note because we're gonna wrap up the show, but we'll

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Speaker 1: answer you a question before we wrap up. Well, they're gonna, listen,

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Speaker 1: Wheeler will get reps at number if ones as long

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Speaker 1: as because listen, Ramors is a veteran, he's got injury problems,

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be careful with him. Okay, so he may

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Speaker 1: not practice on Wednesday, and so Wheeler will be in

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Speaker 1: there with the number one. So that's gonna give him

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Speaker 1: valuable practice time at with the ones in case something

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Speaker 1: did happen. How he's been practicing next to uh Zeisler. Yeah, listen,

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Speaker 1: chemistry is built over time. So the more reps they

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Speaker 1: get out there, the more preseason games, the daily grinded

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Speaker 1: training camp practice. I think hopefully we'll get to the

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Speaker 1: point where the results are going to show up in

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Speaker 1: the regular season. But right now, remember, let me did

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Speaker 1: physicality during O T A S. So there's only so

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Speaker 1: much you could take away. With that being said, that

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Speaker 1: is going to do it for the latest edition a

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Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff Live. Appreciate everybody for tuning in. Try

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Speaker 1: to address some of your tweets off the air. It's

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Speaker 1: all presented by Cora's Light for Jeff Feagles on Lance Meadow.

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Speaker 1: We'll speak to you tomorrow right here at noon Eastern

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Speaker 1: on giants dot com. Have a going