WEBVTT - S1: EP 17 — "Suddenly, I Can’t Breathe”

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<v THERÉSA>Good morning undead-heads. Or maybe it's not morning, as you know,

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<v THERÉSA>I have no idea what's what in here. But I

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<v THERÉSA>just got back from the most relaxing long weekend in

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<v THERÉSA>the Elysian Fields. I can already hear the AP English

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<v THERÉSA>nerds in the comments: "The Elysian Fields are where heroes

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<v THERÉSA>of Greek mythology go when they die!" First of all,

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<v THERÉSA>I'm a hero to many, and secondly, it's open to tourists.

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<v THERÉSA>I lounged in the sun, explored the groves, and did

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<v THERÉSA>a booze cruise around the Isle of the Blessed, where

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<v THERÉSA>I met some really fun orbs on a bachelor party,

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<v THERÉSA>I'm pretty sure we saw John Lennon eating a pear.

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<v THERÉSA>People always say they come back from vacation feeling refreshed

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<v THERÉSA>and ready to get back to the grind. Well, I

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<v THERÉSA>couldn't disagree more. Coming back from vacation just reminds me

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<v THERÉSA>how much I'd rather still be on vacation. No, not

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<v THERÉSA>that I don't love talking to you guys. Sometimes it

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<v THERÉSA>just feels good to rot, you know? In the metaphorical sense.

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<v THERÉSA>In the literal sense, I can't recommend. Today's stories have

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<v THERÉSA>something in common. They're both from very supernaturally sensitive women.

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<v THERÉSA>Of course, everyone we have on the show is somewhat

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<v THERÉSA>open to the other side, but these two have what

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<v THERÉSA>my old psychic Monica would call "the gift." We'll start

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<v THERÉSA>with Elizabeth, whose demonic experience on frat row had nothing

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<v THERÉSA>to do with gravity bongs or holes punched in the drywall.

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<v STORY A>We have a prayer that's been passed down in our

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<v STORY A>family for a few generations. My mom taught it to

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<v STORY A>me when I was little. She was like, if you

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<v STORY A>get scared, you just need to say this prayer. It's

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<v STORY A>basically just praying for white light. But generally speaking, the

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<v STORY A>thing about demonic entities is that the shinier something is,

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<v STORY A>the more they want it. My name's Elizabeth, and I

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<v STORY A>learned that you don't fuck with the demon in the basement.

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<v STORY A>I've always had a sixth sense, if you will, or intuition.

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<v STORY A>The way that I can tell if maybe there's some

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<v STORY A>sort of spiritual energy going on is my ears will

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<v STORY A>pop like I'm on an airplane and typically don't unpop

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<v STORY A>for at least ten minutes. It's a genetic thing. People

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<v STORY A>in my mom's side of the family always tend to

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<v STORY A>have extra senses is the way I would describe it,

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<v STORY A>which is why my mom taught me this prayer. Put

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<v STORY A>me in a white light and protect me. Halloween weekend

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<v STORY A>is a very big deal in the town I went

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<v STORY A>to college, and there's decorations everywhere. They actually block off

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<v STORY A>the whole downtown and you just get to walk around

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<v STORY A> bar hop, do whatever. And there's also a lot

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<v STORY A>of parties in the neighborhood where all the students lived,

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<v STORY A>so you can just walk from party to party. That night,

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<v STORY A>the air it's crisp, it's a little cool. I chose

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<v STORY A>to wear black off the shoulder crop top, darker wash, highwaisted,

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<v STORY A>wide leg jeans, and then this new pair of platform heels.

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<v STORY A>Me and a group of my girlfriends decided to go

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<v STORY A>to a fraternity party off campus, and when we got there,

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<v STORY A>we noticed it was like weirdly quiet. People were just

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<v STORY A>sort of standing around with their beers talking. It was

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<v STORY A>supposed to be a big rager, but one of our

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<v STORY A>friends in the fraternity had fallen into the speaker and

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<v STORY A>broke it, so there was no music and everyone was

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<v STORY A>just kind of standing around brainstorming what to do next.

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<v STORY A>A group of our girlfriends wanted to go to the bars.

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<v STORY A>Another group wanted to go to another house party, but

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<v STORY A>me and my friend Stacy wanted to have a chilled night.

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<v STORY A>And that was when our friend Scott invited me and

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<v STORY A>Stacy back to his house to watch movies, hang out,

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<v STORY A>and just have a chilled nigh in. We go back

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<v STORY A>to Scott's house, which is an older home. I think

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<v STORY A>he told us one time it was built in the

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<v STORY A>thirties or something. When we got to the house, every

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<v STORY A>light was on, which I thought was strange because no

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<v STORY A>one was home, and I just noticed that the vibe

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<v STORY A>in the house fell off. It felt like a wave

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<v STORY A>of something came over me that was heavy. My ears

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<v STORY A>had popped and I couldn't hear. I remember asking for

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<v STORY A>gum hoping that if I chewed gum that that would

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<v STORY A>help it unpop and I'd be able to hear better.

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<v STORY A>I just kind of wrote it off, so I ignored

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<v STORY A>it and just figured I was in my head. We're

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<v STORY A>hanging out. We hadn't had anything to drink at that

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<v STORY A>point really. I had had a corona. We were like

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<v STORY A>mildly sipping on beer. The night winds down and Stacey

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<v STORY A>decides to meet up with one of her other guy friends.

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<v STORY A>She leaves and it's just me and Scott in the

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<v STORY A>living room hanging out talking. It got to be around

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<v STORY A>two thirty three in the morning. The college town where

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<v STORY A>we went to school is smaller. Once the bars close

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<v STORY A>at two, there's a very limited window to get an

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<v STORY A>uber or a lyft back to wherever you're staying for

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<v STORY A>the night, so there weren't any ubers or lyfts. I

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<v STORY A>was either going to have to walk home in the

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<v STORY A>dark by myself, which I didn't like. So Scott offered

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<v STORY A>that I could stay upstairs in his room and he

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<v STORY A>would sleep on the couch and I could go home

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<v STORY A>in the morning. He walked me to his room. It

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<v STORY A>was at the very right end of the hallway. I

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<v STORY A>took my shoes off, I put them at the foot

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<v STORY A>of the bed. I turned on the lamp, and he

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<v STORY A>just kind of made sure I was good and said

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<v STORY A>if I needed anything, I could come downstairs and get

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<v STORY A>him and he would just be on the couch. We

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<v STORY A>said good night, and he shut the door and I

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<v STORY A>laid down in the bed and I didn't feel sleepy

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<v STORY A>at all. I remember immediately feeling like something was really wrong.

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<v STORY A>My ears were popping number one and I was just

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<v STORY A>starting to get a sense that I wasn't alone up there.

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<v STORY A>I couldn't quite place my finger on it, but I

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<v STORY A>felt strange and watched. So I chose to sleep with

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<v STORY A>the lamp on. I just felt like I didn't want

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<v STORY A>to turn it off. The next thing that I remember,

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<v STORY A>I was conscious, but I was standing at the opposite

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<v STORY A>end of the hallway. I was looking into Scott's room.

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<v STORY A>The door was open, and I could see myself laying

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<v STORY A>on the bed. I could see my hair splayed out

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<v STORY A>behind me. I could see the crop top I was wearing.

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<v STORY A>I could see the jeans. I could even see, like

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<v STORY A>at the foot of the bed where I had sat down,

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<v STORY A>my shoes. It's jarring to feel conscious and you're not

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<v STORY A>in your body. It's the weirdest sensation I could ever imagine.

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<v STORY A>And then I realized there's something in the hallway watching

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<v STORY A>my body laying on the bed. It just looked evil

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<v STORY A>and dark. I mean it was literally as tall as

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<v STORY A>the door, with huge, broad shoulders that looked bumpy, lumpy,

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<v STORY A> bulky. It had what looked like ram's horns, and

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<v STORY A>it was so tall it looked like it couldn't fit

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<v STORY A>through the doorway without crouching its legs looked so muscular,

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<v STORY A>they looked like ropes that had been twisted together, or

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<v STORY A>tree roots. It had its hands just hanging by its sides,

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<v STORY A>and it was the deepest shade of black that I've

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<v STORY A>ever seen in my life. I knew this was not

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<v STORY A>just a dream. I felt like a sheep that had

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<v STORY A>broken off from the pack and a wolf was circling it.

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<v STORY A>It likes the fact that I wasn't aware that it

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<v STORY A>was watching me. That terrified me. Whatever it was wanted me,

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<v STORY A>is this thing trying to get into my body? What's

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<v STORY A>going on? I start freaking out and praying, put me in

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<v STORY A>a white light and protect me. Put me in a

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<v STORY A>white light and protect me. When I started praying p,

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<v STORY A>whatever this thing was in the doorway started to turn around.

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<v STORY A>Put me in a white light and protect me. But

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<v STORY A>once it started to turn around, I'm back in my body,

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<v STORY A>in bed, right where I was before, drenched in sweat,

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<v STORY A>and I'm just freezing cold, shivering, teeth chattering. I look

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<v STORY A>over to my right. The door to the bedroom that

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<v STORY A>Scott had shut was now wide open, and I could

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<v STORY A>see directly down the hallway to where I had just

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<v STORY A>been watching this all happen. I knew Scott had shut

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<v STORY A>the door before he went downstairs. At this point, it

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<v STORY A>must have been around four in the morning. I just

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<v STORY A>instinctively know I have to get away from here. My

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<v STORY A>fight or flight kicks in, so I thought I'll just

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<v STORY A>take my chances and run. I grabbed my shoes, grabbed

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<v STORY A>my purse, ran outside, and sprinted back to my dorm.

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<v STORY A>I ran home barefoot, holding my shoes and my purse.

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<v STORY A>I cut through people's yards, over uneven sidewalks. It's probably

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<v STORY A>a good four miles. I was terrified. My feet were bleeding.

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<v STORY A>I ran as fast as I could, but I didn't

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<v STORY A>even pay attention to how my feet felt. I was

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<v STORY A>just more scared than in pain. I ran home to

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<v STORY A>my dorm. I remember being terrified to get in the elevator.

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<v STORY A>I was so scared that it followed me and that

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<v STORY A>it was gonna mess with me.

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<v STORY A>The dorm was dark. My roommate was there with her

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<v STORY A>boyfriend he was visiting for the weekend. They were completely asleep.

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<v STORY A>I ran and I jumped into my bed, fully in

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<v STORY A>my clothes, covered in sweat. I just laid there with

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<v STORY A>the covers pulled up over my head, and I just

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<v STORY A>prayed put me in a white light and protect me.

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<v STORY A>I didn't look out from under the covers. I just

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<v STORY A>laid there and I repeated the prayer that my family

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<v STORY A>has passed down until the sun came up. The next day,

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<v STORY A>I didn't tell anybody what happened because I didn't really

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<v STORY A>want to talk about it or like give it any

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<v STORY A>more power. So I just went on about my life.

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<v STORY A>I never went back to the house, even when they

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<v STORY A>still lived there for the rest of the school year,

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<v STORY A>I never went back to that house.

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<v STORY A>I just refused. I would actually have to walk by

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<v STORY A>that house to go to work. I'd walk by it

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<v STORY A>on the way to other friends' houses. I would always

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<v STORY A>make it a point to keep my head down. I

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<v STORY A>wouldn't even look at it because I was terrified. I

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<v STORY A>could sense that something was like in the window watching me.

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<v STORY A>I didn't want to look up and see it, connect

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<v STORY A>with it and let it know that I knew it

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<v STORY A>was there, and then just shy of A year later,

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<v STORY A>Scott came over to our dorm and my friend Stacy

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<v STORY A>casually asks do you still live in that same house?

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<v STORY A>His face changed really suddenly. He said no, very abruptly.

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<v STORY A>He told us how he would be home alone and

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<v STORY A>hear something call his name from somewhere else in the house.

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<v STORY A>It would sound like one of his roommates, and then

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<v STORY A>he would go look around and would realize he was

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<v STORY A>the only one in the house. They would wake up

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<v STORY A>to all their kitchen cabinet doors being open. There would

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<v STORY A>be unexplained slamming and loud footsteps. This was also how

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<v STORY A>I found out that Scott never slept in his room

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<v STORY A>because he was convinced that something in his room was

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<v STORY A>messing was him. One of the roommates who slept down

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<v STORY A>the hall from Scott actually had drilled a dead bolt

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<v STORY A>lock into his door and then a chain lock. The

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<v STORY A>last thing he said was During Alumni weekend, they were

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<v STORY A>on their back porch grilling, and a group of older

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<v STORY A>men were walking down the street and one of the

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<v STORY A>men in this group introduced himself and he told them

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<v STORY A>how he used to live in that house. They invited

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<v STORY A>him in and offered him to go in and see

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<v STORY A>his old room, and he said, no, I don't want

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<v STORY A>to go in, and he wouldn't step on the porch either.

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<v STORY A>As the guy turns to leave, he says, it was

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<v STORY A>nice meeting you and by the way, don't fuck with

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<v STORY A>the demon in the basement. After living in that house,

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<v STORY A>Scott actually wound up leaving school and had to go

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<v STORY A>to therapy because of whatever it was that had been

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<v STORY A>taunting them and messing with them all that time. As

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<v STORY A>scary as it was, seeing that, I do feel like

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<v STORY A>I was deliberately shown that so that I knew to

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<v STORY A>get out of the situation. I'm very grateful for that.

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<v STORY A>It's my hope and prayer that whoever lives there now

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<v STORY A>has some sort of strong positive force in their life

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<v STORY A>and no interest or curiosity in the paranormal, and they

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<v STORY A>don't give it any power by trying to contact it.

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<v THERÉSA>Didn't love the sound of that! There's a saying we

0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:42.800
<v THERÉSA>have here, "soft white light. You're all right. Hoof or

0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:46.600
<v THERÉSA>horn is spirit scorned." Of course, it's not just hoof

0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:49.400
<v THERÉSA>or horn you need to watch out for. There's tall

0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:55.560
<v THERÉSA>and slender, glowing red eyes, bodies of shadow, what else? Smelly, chilly, shrieky, ceiling, leaky.

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<v THERÉSA>I'm missing some

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<v LEN>[MUMBLES]

0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:01.920
<v THERÉSA>oh right, door slamming as you a bad sign. There's others.

0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.200
<v THERÉSA>I'll keep thinking on it. In the meantime. We've got

0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:04.800
<v THERÉSA>ads for you.

0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:16.520
<v LEN>[MUMBLES]

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<v THERÉSA>Right, footsteps can be bad. Well, any kind of low growl,

0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:23.720
<v THERÉSA>I guess sounds in general. Eerie singing seems to be

0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:25.320
<v THERÉSA>a big pass-time for spirits.

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<v LEN>[MUMBLES]

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<v THERÉSA>Len, you said "purgatory!" Back in the Elysian Fields. Anytime

0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:38.679
<v THERÉSA>someone says "purgatory" everyone responds, "Did someone say limbo?" and

0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:42.720
<v THERÉSA>they break out the limbo stick and pomegranate Bellinis. Pomegranates,

0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:43.880
<v THERÉSA>you know, "fruit of the dead".

0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:47.320
<v LEN>[MUMBLES]

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<v THERÉSA>I guess you had to be there. You really should

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<v THERÉSA>go sometime, Len. They do Zumba classes every afternoon on

0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:54.360
<v THERÉSA>the Divine Plain. You would love it.

0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:55.330
<v LEN>[MUMBLES]

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<v THERÉSA>Well, anyway, our next story comes to us from Ashley,

0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:04.800
<v THERÉSA>who's something of a spiritual Empath. You know, I'm sort

0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:08.560
<v THERÉSA>of empathic myself. I could always tell when someone felt

0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:12.000
<v THERÉSA>intimidated by me. It happened a lot, honestly. I just

0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:16.160
<v THERÉSA>have that effect on people. You know what, someone right

0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:20.520
<v THERÉSA>now is shrinking in my presence, Probably a listener maybe, Len

0:18:22.290 --> 0:18:22.840
<v LEN>[MUMBLES]

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<v THERÉSA>Whoever you are, never let anyone dull your shine, not

0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:29.960
<v THERÉSA>even a perfect undead influencer with awesome skin if you

0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:36.480
<v THERÉSA>ignore the patches of decay. Okay? good.

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<v STORY B>I never really talk about what happened to me. Psychic

0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:46.919
<v STORY B>mediums were like, you're a clairsentient. You can't hear, you

0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:50.120
<v STORY B>can't see things, but you can feel things in places

0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:55.520
<v STORY B>that have had immense trauma or very strong emotions. But

0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:57.760
<v STORY B>this is the only two times in my life it

0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:01.000
<v STORY B>has ever happened. And they were in the span of

0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:05.919
<v STORY B>like a year. My name is Ashley, and I was

0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:09.040
<v STORY B>haunted while on a historical prison tour.

0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:16.119
<v STORY B>The first time it happened, we went to visit my

0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:20.760
<v STORY B>aunt in eastern Europe. We were there for two weeks total.

0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:25.240
<v STORY B>My parents are huge history buffs, so it was really

0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:27.439
<v STORY B>important to my mom that we go do a couple

0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:31.080
<v STORY B>of museum type stuff while we travel. We went to

0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:33.320
<v STORY B>a bunch of different places. Like we went to a

0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:35.960
<v STORY B>couple of the castles that are over there. She took

0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:38.400
<v STORY B>us to a bunch of different towns just to kind

0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:42.840
<v STORY B>of explore and broaden our horizons. While we were over there,

0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:47.119
<v STORY B>my aunt planned for us to check out one of

0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:49.760
<v STORY B>the prisons that they have there, and they've turned it

0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:58.800
<v STORY B>into a museum as well. We pull up, we park,

0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:01.919
<v STORY B>we go up to the gate and my aunt and

0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:06.320
<v STORY B>my mom and my brother they're all going inside, and

0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:09.840
<v STORY B>I'm only at the entrance, but my body will not

0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:15.280
<v STORY B>move past this point. I felt like my feet were

0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:20.359
<v STORY B>cemented to the ground. I could not go in, and

0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:23.760
<v STORY B>my mom thought I was being like a typical teenager

0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:26.679
<v STORY B>of like I don't want to do this, and I

0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:31.440
<v STORY B>was like, no, you don't understand, like I physically cannot

0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:38.480
<v STORY B>bring myself to go inside. I physically felt like I

0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:40.960
<v STORY B>could not breathe, like I could not get air in

0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:45.640
<v STORY B>my lungs while I was on the premise. The tour

0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:47.840
<v STORY B>guide comes over and she's like, are you okay? And

0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:53.679
<v STORY B>I said, I feel like this overwhelming sense of dread

0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:58.520
<v STORY B>and I can't physically bring my body past this gate,

0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:01.560
<v STORY B>But just give me a couple of minutes. I gotta

0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:09.480
<v STORY B>calm myself down. Finally, we go into the actual prison.

0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:14.080
<v STORY B>The tour guide walks me over to my aunt and

0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:17.240
<v STORY B>she goes, you can walk all the way through, and

0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:18.919
<v STORY B>then at the end it's going to lead you to

0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:21.879
<v STORY B>the museum. And like my mom had already gone in,

0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:30.159
<v STORY B>I wasn't even fully inside, and suddenly I just feel

0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:36.639
<v STORY B>like I can't breathe. The tour guide she's staring at me.

0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:39.840
<v STORY B>Her eyes are huge, and she's like, are you okay?

0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:43.600
<v STORY B>And I said, I can't explain it to you. I

0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:50.320
<v STORY B>feel like I'm choking. And she's like, there's nothing happening

0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:52.600
<v STORY B>to you so she kind of like walks me over

0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:55.520
<v STORY B>to the side, and my mom's like, what is going

0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:57.160
<v STORY B>on with you today? Are you sick?

0:21:57.760 --> 0:22:02.439
<v STORY B>I said, no, it's this place like I feel like

0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:09.480
<v STORY B>I'm suffocating. I still had the feeling all throughout the

0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:12.400
<v STORY B>time that I was on the grounds, and then when

0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:14.800
<v STORY B>we left and we got in the car, I felt

0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:16.919
<v STORY B>one hundred percent normal again.

0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:24.240
<v STORY B>The second time it happened to me, I was in

0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:28.407
<v STORY B>high school. I went to Shawnee High School in Medford,

0:22:28.407 --> 0:22:32.359
<v STORY B>New Jersey, and I took a photography class from my

0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:35.480
<v STORY B>sophomore year to my senior year, and in my junior year,

0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:38.600
<v STORY B>the teacher decided that we were going to start doing

0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:41.400
<v STORY B>field trips to different places in the area, and one

0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:44.199
<v STORY B>of the places that they decided to pick was Eastern

0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:51.720
<v STORY B>State Penitentiary. Eastern State Penitentiary is a very old prison

0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:55.760
<v STORY B>in the heart of Philadelphia. It hasn't been used in

0:22:55.800 --> 0:23:02.680
<v STORY B>many decades. That place is one hundred percent haunted. It's spooky,

0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:07.359
<v STORY B>but it is very cool. A lot of the prison

0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:11.760
<v STORY B>is kind of disheveled and broken, so it's got a

0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:17.680
<v STORY B>lot of very interesting areas to explore, not only like landscapes,

0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:21.640
<v STORY B>but also to focus on like the lighting aspect of it.

0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:24.639
<v STORY B>I was super excited and I was like one of

0:23:24.640 --> 0:23:30.320
<v STORY B>the first ones to sign up. The day of the trip,

0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:33.360
<v STORY B>we got on the buses, we got there. I think

0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:36.760
<v STORY B>there was like fifteen students. When we pulled up on

0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:41.080
<v STORY B>the buses, it kind of looked like a dungeon with

0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:47.000
<v STORY B>the old stone and the ivy and just very run down.

0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:52.560
<v STORY B>We were dropped off at the gates. We had about

0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:58.040
<v STORY B>three hours and they basically said, listen, you can explore

0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:01.480
<v STORY B>a little bit. Just obviously stay within the walls of

0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:05.480
<v STORY B>the penitentiary. You can do a guided tour, but it's

0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:07.800
<v STORY B>really up to everybody. Just meet back where the bus

0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:14.440
<v STORY B>is to go home. So me and my girlfriend Chelsea,

0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:17.640
<v STORY B>we are exploring, We're taking pictures. We got to see

0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:21.640
<v STORY B>all the cool spots like Al Capone's Cell. Al Capone's

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:25.320
<v STORY B>Cell is very interesting, to say the least. It has

0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:28.320
<v STORY B>everything exactly the way that he left it on the

0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:33.960
<v STORY B>day that he was released. His furniture, there's rugs, there's lamps.

0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:40.359
<v STORY B>There's a radio, which, according to the Eastern State Penitentiary

0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:45.000
<v STORY B>tour guides, tends to go off out of nowhere and

0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:48.840
<v STORY B>it's not connected to anything. It doesn't have any type

0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:53.920
<v STORY B>of batteries, so shouldn't be doing that. I was really

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:55.960
<v STORY B>hoping that the radio would go off while we were there,

0:24:56.040 --> 0:25:02.879
<v STORY B>but it didn't. It was Chelsea's idea to sign up

0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:05.960
<v STORY B>for a guided tour. She was like, the only way

0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:08.680
<v STORY B>we're going to be able to see certain areas of

0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:12.080
<v STORY B>the penitentiary is if we sign up, because like, Death

0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:14.240
<v STORY B>Row is not open to the public. You can't just

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:17.919
<v STORY B>walk through it. It's like gated off. We were the

0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:21.879
<v STORY B>only two that were from the field trip on this

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:27.119
<v STORY B>guided tour. There was maybe ten of us total. The

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:31.639
<v STORY B>tour guide was a woman in her mid forties, and

0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:34.160
<v STORY B>of course, back when I was seventeen, I was like, ah,

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:37.479
<v STORY B>this old lady. But no, she was very nice, very

0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:41.440
<v STORY B>put together, very soft spoken. She had been doing this

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:46.560
<v STORY B>for about ten years, so she was very knowledgeable of

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:50.320
<v STORY B>the entire penitentiary.

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:54.160
<v STORY B>We start the tour. She's taking us towards Death Row,

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:58.679
<v STORY B>which is very narrow when you first walk in. She explains,

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:02.320
<v STORY B>there's two areas that you can explore in here. The

0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:06.600
<v STORY B>guard's side, which is the path that most guards took

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:09.320
<v STORY B>to get into where death Row is, and then the

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:12.040
<v STORY B>inmate side, which is the showers. So you have to

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:16.359
<v STORY B>go through the showers to get to the cells. Chelsea

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:19.040
<v STORY B>and I wanted to get some pictures of the showers

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:22.400
<v STORY B>and then hopefully down towards where the cells were, so

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:26.879
<v STORY B>we separated from our little group and we're going through the showers.

0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:31.840
<v STORY B>Chelsea was like setting up to take a picture. But

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:37.560
<v STORY B>when I step into the showers, I felt this really intense,

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:42.800
<v STORY B>sharp pain on the right side of my back. It

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:47.400
<v STORY B>was like this burning, stabbing sensation, and it knocks the

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:53.760
<v STORY B>wind out of me. I dropped to my knees. I

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:57.000
<v STORY B>can't breathe, I can't stand up, I can barely move.

0:26:58.040 --> 0:27:02.960
<v STORY B>It hit me so hard and so fast out of nowhere.

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:10.639
<v STORY B>I was maybe three feet into the shower. I was

0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:17.600
<v STORY B>in shock on top of being in excruciating pain. I

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:21.080
<v STORY B>can't even compare it to anything. I never felt something

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:25.919
<v STORY B>so sharp and so sudden come over me like that.

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:32.280
<v STORY B>I was sweaty, clammy and like a chill came over

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:36.760
<v STORY B>my body. Chelsea came rushing over and she's like, are

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:41.800
<v STORY B>you okay? She could instantly tell something was seriously wrong.

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:47.960
<v STORY B>She was scared. She thought I really got hurt. She

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:50.479
<v STORY B>was like, stand up, Come on, you can do it.

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:52.280
<v STORY B>I'm gonna help you. Get up. You gotta get up

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:56.000
<v STORY B>off your knees right now. Get up. Like yelling at

0:27:56.000 --> 0:28:00.719
<v STORY B>me and the tour guide noticed that we hadn't caught up

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:04.119
<v STORY B>with in the group. She peeks her head around the

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:10.879
<v STORY B>corner and said, just keep walking. At seventeen, I was like,

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:13.399
<v STORY B>what is this lady's problem? Like I thought she was

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:17.040
<v STORY B>yelling at me, thinking I was goofing off, and I

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:19.720
<v STORY B>just remember looking at her and being like, I can't

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:22.639
<v STORY B>stand up. I can't catch my breath. You've got to

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:25.679
<v STORY B>be kidding me. And I was like I can't, and

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:34.119
<v STORY B>she was like, no, trust me, just keep walking. I

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:38.240
<v STORY B>could see that she was also panicked. Between the look

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:40.600
<v STORY B>on her face and the way that she said it,

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:44.240
<v STORY B>I knew I have to like get to her. She

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:46.240
<v STORY B>knows something that I don't know, and that if I

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:49.280
<v STORY B>just walked to her and I got myself out of

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:51.920
<v STORY B>the spot that I was in, I was gonna be fine.

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:58.640
<v STORY B>At that point, Chelsea basically lifts me to get me

0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:02.120
<v STORY B>back up onto my feet and we start walking towards

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:06.440
<v STORY B>the tour guide. As we got closer and closer to her,

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:11.640
<v STORY B>the better I felt. All of the pain started to

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:17.240
<v STORY B>dissipate and the cold sweat started to disappear. When I

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:20.040
<v STORY B>got to the tour guide, she was like, are you alright?

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:23.120
<v STORY B>And I was like, I think so, And then she

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:26.360
<v STORY B>said where was your pain? And I said it was

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:31.560
<v STORY B>my right back, and she was kind of intrigued because

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:35.440
<v STORY B>she had me tell her what it felt like. It

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:41.080
<v STORY B>was the most intense pain I've ever felt in my life.

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:45.200
<v STORY B>So she told me that when this was a functioning prison,

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:48.360
<v STORY B>there was a guard that went in to check on

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:51.280
<v STORY B>an inmate in the shower who said he did not

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:55.640
<v STORY B>feel well, and when he did that, two other inmates

0:29:55.960 --> 0:30:00.360
<v STORY B>jumped this guard and stabbed him and he bled out,

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:05.600
<v STORY B>and she goes, I don't want to freak you out,

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:10.680
<v STORY B>but I've been doing this for ten years now, and

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:14.960
<v STORY B>this is the third time that I've seen this reaction

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:24.760
<v STORY B>in these showers. And I just remember looking her dead

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:29.560
<v STORY B>in the face, saying, you're kidding me, and she was like, no,

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:35.240
<v STORY B>literally two other people have dropped in that exact spot,

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:40.200
<v STORY B>just like you did. And she said the guard died

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:44.800
<v STORY B>from a stabbing to his right kidney. And then that's

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:46.120
<v STORY B>when I looked at Chelsea and I'm like, you need

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:48.360
<v STORY B>to look at my back right now. And I pulled

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:50.080
<v STORY B>my shirt up and I was like, is there any

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:52.719
<v STORY B>marks on me? I was having her check to make

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:56.680
<v STORY B>sure that I did not actually get stabbed. She looks

0:30:56.720 --> 0:31:02.400
<v STORY B>and she's like, no, there's nothing. No bruises, no scratching,

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:07.920
<v STORY B>no red marks, nothing on my back. Death Row was

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:10.520
<v STORY B>like the first stop on our tour, so we still

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:14.120
<v STORY B>had about forty five minutes left of that, but I

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:16.640
<v STORY B>told Chelsea that I wanted to sit for the rest

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:19.240
<v STORY B>of the trip until everybody met up with us to leave.

0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:24.800
<v STORY B>Don't get me wrong, I love everything odd and creepy

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:28.240
<v STORY B>and strange, and Halloween's my favorite time of year, but

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:34.880
<v STORY B>I don't want it to be in my everyday life.

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<v STORY B>I don't really know why it happened to me. I'm

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<v STORY B>now thirty two, I've had two children, and even having

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<v STORY B>children wasn't as intense as the pain that I felt

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<v STORY B>that day.

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<v THERÉSA>This one is extra unsettling. Haunting is generally a "look

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<v THERÉSA>don't touch" business, so anytime someone experiences physical pain, you

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<v THERÉSA>know it's serious. That being said, visiting death row of

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<v THERÉSA>an old prison when you know you're sensitive to the supernatural. Sorry,

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<v THERÉSA>that's kind of on you. Well, that's it for today, Hauntos.

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<v THERÉSA>If you've ever been shanked by a ghost, email us

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<v THERÉSA>at HauntingThePodcast@gmail.com and your story could be featured on an

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<v THERÉSA>upcoming episode. Until then, keep the portals open and the

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<v THERÉSA>veils thin, and we'll see you next time here in purgatory.

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<v THERÉSA>I said, see you next time here in purgatory. Len,

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<v THERÉSA>When I say purgatory, you say,

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<v LEN>[MUMBLES]

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<v THERÉSA>"Limbo" Remember? Okay, you know we just talked about this.

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<v THERÉSA>You know, you of all people could use a vacation.

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<v LEN>[MUMBLES]

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<v CREDITS>If you have a haunting story to share, please email

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<v CREDITS>Haunting is a production of Glass Podcasts and partnership with

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<v CREDITS>iHeart Podcast. Haunting is created and executive produced by Nancy Glass,

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<v CREDITS>Andrea Gunning, Ben Fetterman, and Lauren Lapkus, and it is

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<v CREDITS>hosted by Lauren Lapkus as their character Therésa. The show

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<v CREDITS>is directed by Aleah Welsh and produced by Trey Morgan.

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<v CREDITS>It is written by Aleah Welsh, with additional writing by

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<v CREDITS>Nancy Glass, Trey Morgan, and Ben Fetterman. Additional production support

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<v CREDITS>by Curry Richman and Todd Gans. Additional voice acting by

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<v CREDITS>Trey Morgan as the character producer Len Walker. Editing and

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<v CREDITS>sound designed by Matt Delvecchio and mixed by Dave Saia.

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<v CREDITS>Operations and production support by Kristin Melchiorre. Haunting's theme and

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<v CREDITS>original compositions work composed by Oliver Baines and Dorry Macaulay

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<v CREDITS>of Noiser. Music Library provided by Mybe Music. Special thanks

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