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THERÉSA: Good morning undead-heads. Or maybe it's not morning, as you know,

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THERÉSA: I have no idea what's what in here. But I

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THERÉSA: just got back from the most relaxing long weekend in

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THERÉSA: the Elysian Fields. I can already hear the AP English

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THERÉSA: nerds in the comments: "The Elysian Fields are where heroes

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THERÉSA: of Greek mythology go when they die!" First of all,

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THERÉSA: I'm a hero to many, and secondly, it's open to tourists.

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THERÉSA: I lounged in the sun, explored the groves, and did

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THERÉSA: a booze cruise around the Isle of the Blessed, where

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THERÉSA: I met some really fun orbs on a bachelor party,

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THERÉSA: I'm pretty sure we saw John Lennon eating a pear.

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THERÉSA: People always say they come back from vacation feeling refreshed

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THERÉSA: and ready to get back to the grind. Well, I

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THERÉSA: couldn't disagree more. Coming back from vacation just reminds me

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THERÉSA: how much I'd rather still be on vacation. No, not

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THERÉSA: that I don't love talking to you guys. Sometimes it

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THERÉSA: just feels good to rot, you know? In the metaphorical sense.

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THERÉSA: In the literal sense, I can't recommend. Today's stories have

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THERÉSA: something in common. They're both from very supernaturally sensitive women.

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THERÉSA: Of course, everyone we have on the show is somewhat

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THERÉSA: open to the other side, but these two have what

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THERÉSA: my old psychic Monica would call "the gift." We'll start

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THERÉSA: with Elizabeth, whose demonic experience on frat row had nothing

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THERÉSA: to do with gravity bongs or holes punched in the drywall.

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STORY A: We have a prayer that's been passed down in our

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STORY A: family for a few generations. My mom taught it to

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STORY A: me when I was little. She was like, if you

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STORY A: get scared, you just need to say this prayer. It's

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STORY A: basically just praying for white light. But generally speaking, the

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STORY A: thing about demonic entities is that the shinier something is,

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STORY A: the more they want it. My name's Elizabeth, and I

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STORY A: learned that you don't fuck with the demon in the basement.

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STORY A: I've always had a sixth sense, if you will, or intuition.

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STORY A: The way that I can tell if maybe there's some

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STORY A: sort of spiritual energy going on is my ears will

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STORY A: pop like I'm on an airplane and typically don't unpop

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STORY A: for at least ten minutes. It's a genetic thing. People

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STORY A: in my mom's side of the family always tend to

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STORY A: which is why my mom taught me this prayer. Put

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STORY A: me in a white light and protect me. Halloween weekend

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STORY A: is a very big deal in the town I went

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STORY A: to college, and there's decorations everywhere. They actually block off

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STORY A: the whole downtown and you just get to walk around

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STORY A:  bar hop, do whatever. And there's also a lot

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STORY A: of parties in the neighborhood where all the students lived,

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STORY A: so you can just walk from party to party. That night,

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STORY A: the air it's crisp, it's a little cool. I chose

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STORY A: to wear black off the shoulder crop top, darker wash, highwaisted,

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STORY A: Me and a group of my girlfriends decided to go

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STORY A: to a fraternity party off campus, and when we got there,

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STORY A: we noticed it was like weirdly quiet. People were just

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STORY A: sort of standing around with their beers talking. It was

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STORY A: supposed to be a big rager, but one of our

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STORY A: friends in the fraternity had fallen into the speaker and

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STORY A: just kind of standing around brainstorming what to do next.

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STORY A: A group of our girlfriends wanted to go to the bars.

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STORY A: Another group wanted to go to another house party, but

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STORY A: me and my friend Stacy wanted to have a chilled night.

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STORY A: And that was when our friend Scott invited me and

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STORY A: Stacy back to his house to watch movies, hang out,

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STORY A: and just have a chilled nigh in. We go back

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STORY A: to Scott's house, which is an older home. I think

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STORY A: he told us one time it was built in the

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STORY A: thirties or something. When we got to the house, every

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STORY A: light was on, which I thought was strange because no

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STORY A: of something came over me that was heavy. My ears

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STORY A: it and just figured I was in my head. We're

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STORY A: hanging out. We hadn't had anything to drink at that

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STORY A: two thirty three in the morning. The college town where

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STORY A: in the morning. He walked me to his room. It

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STORY A: said good night, and he shut the door and I

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STORY A: at all. I remember immediately feeling like something was really wrong.

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STORY A: My ears were popping number one and I was just

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STORY A: starting to get a sense that I wasn't alone up there.

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STORY A: I couldn't quite place my finger on it, but I

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STORY A: to turn it off. The next thing that I remember,

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STORY A: The door was open, and I could see myself laying

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STORY A: behind me. I could see the crop top I was wearing.

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STORY A: I could see the jeans. I could even see, like

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STORY A: my shoes. It's jarring to feel conscious and you're not

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STORY A: in your body. It's the weirdest sensation I could ever imagine.

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STORY A: And then I realized there's something in the hallway watching

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STORY A: my body laying on the bed. It just looked evil

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STORY A: and dark. I mean it was literally as tall as

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STORY A: through the doorway without crouching its legs looked so muscular,

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STORY A: they looked like ropes that had been twisted together, or

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STORY A: tree roots. It had its hands just hanging by its sides,

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STORY A: and it was the deepest shade of black that I've

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STORY A: ever seen in my life. I knew this was not

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STORY A: just a dream. I felt like a sheep that had

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STORY A: broken off from the pack and a wolf was circling it.

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STORY A: It likes the fact that I wasn't aware that it

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STORY A: was watching me. That terrified me. Whatever it was wanted me,

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STORY A: is this thing trying to get into my body? What's

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STORY A: going on? I start freaking out and praying, put me in

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STORY A: white light and protect me. When I started praying p,

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STORY A: whatever this thing was in the doorway started to turn around.

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STORY A: Put me in a white light and protect me. But

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STORY A: once it started to turn around, I'm back in my body,

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STORY A: in bed, right where I was before, drenched in sweat,

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STORY A: and I'm just freezing cold, shivering, teeth chattering. I look

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STORY A: over to my right. The door to the bedroom that

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STORY A: been watching this all happen. I knew Scott had shut

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STORY A: the door before he went downstairs. At this point, it

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STORY A: must have been around four in the morning. I just

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STORY A: instinctively know I have to get away from here. My

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STORY A: fight or flight kicks in, so I thought I'll just

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STORY A: I ran home barefoot, holding my shoes and my purse.

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STORY A: I cut through people's yards, over uneven sidewalks. It's probably

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STORY A: a good four miles. I was terrified. My feet were bleeding.

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STORY A: I ran as fast as I could, but I didn't

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STORY A: just more scared than in pain. I ran home to

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STORY A: I was so scared that it followed me and that

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STORY A: The dorm was dark. My roommate was there with her

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STORY A: I ran and I jumped into my bed, fully in

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STORY A: I didn't look out from under the covers. I just

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STORY A: laid there and I repeated the prayer that my family

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STORY A: has passed down until the sun came up. The next day,

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STORY A: I didn't tell anybody what happened because I didn't really

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STORY A: I never went back to the house, even when they

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STORY A: I never went back to that house.

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STORY A: I just refused. I would actually have to walk by

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STORY A: could sense that something was like in the window watching me.

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STORY A: I didn't want to look up and see it, connect

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STORY A: was there, and then just shy of A year later,

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STORY A: casually asks do you still live in that same house?

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STORY A: His face changed really suddenly. He said no, very abruptly.

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STORY A: He told us how he would be home alone and

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STORY A: hear something call his name from somewhere else in the house.

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STORY A: It would sound like one of his roommates, and then

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STORY A: to all their kitchen cabinet doors being open. There would

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STORY A: be unexplained slamming and loud footsteps. This was also how

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STORY A: I found out that Scott never slept in his room

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STORY A: because he was convinced that something in his room was

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STORY A: messing was him. One of the roommates who slept down

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STORY A: on their back porch grilling, and a group of older

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STORY A: how he used to live in that house. They invited

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STORY A: As the guy turns to leave, he says, it was

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STORY A: the demon in the basement. After living in that house,

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STORY A: I was deliberately shown that so that I knew to

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STORY A: It's my hope and prayer that whoever lives there now

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STORY A: has some sort of strong positive force in their life

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STORY A: and no interest or curiosity in the paranormal, and they

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THERÉSA: Didn't love the sound of that! There's a saying we

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THERÉSA: have here, "soft white light. You're all right. Hoof or

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THERÉSA: horn is spirit scorned." Of course, it's not just hoof

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THERÉSA: or horn you need to watch out for. There's tall

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THERÉSA: and slender, glowing red eyes, bodies of shadow, what else? Smelly, chilly, shrieky, ceiling, leaky.

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THERÉSA: I'm missing some

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THERÉSA: oh right, door slamming as you a bad sign. There's others.

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THERÉSA: I'll keep thinking on it. In the meantime. We've got

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THERÉSA: ads for you.

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THERÉSA: Right, footsteps can be bad. Well, any kind of low growl,

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THERÉSA: I guess sounds in general. Eerie singing seems to be

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THERÉSA: Len, you said "purgatory!" Back in the Elysian Fields. Anytime

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THERÉSA: someone says "purgatory" everyone responds, "Did someone say limbo?" and

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THERÉSA: they break out the limbo stick and pomegranate Bellinis. Pomegranates,

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THERÉSA: you know, "fruit of the dead".

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THERÉSA: I guess you had to be there. You really should

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THERÉSA: go sometime, Len. They do Zumba classes every afternoon on

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THERÉSA: the Divine Plain. You would love it.

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LEN: [MUMBLES]

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THERÉSA: Well, anyway, our next story comes to us from Ashley,

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THERÉSA: who's something of a spiritual Empath. You know, I'm sort

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THERÉSA: of empathic myself. I could always tell when someone felt

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THERÉSA: intimidated by me. It happened a lot, honestly. I just

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THERÉSA: have that effect on people. You know what, someone right

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THERÉSA: now is shrinking in my presence, Probably a listener maybe, Len

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LEN: [MUMBLES]

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THERÉSA: Whoever you are, never let anyone dull your shine, not

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THERÉSA: even a perfect undead influencer with awesome skin if you

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THERÉSA: ignore the patches of decay. Okay? good.

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STORY B: I never really talk about what happened to me. Psychic

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STORY B: mediums were like, you're a clairsentient. You can't hear, you

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STORY B: can't see things, but you can feel things in places

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STORY B: that have had immense trauma or very strong emotions. But

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STORY B: this is the only two times in my life it

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STORY B: has ever happened. And they were in the span of

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STORY B: like a year. My name is Ashley, and I was

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STORY B: haunted while on a historical prison tour.

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STORY B: The first time it happened, we went to visit my

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STORY B: aunt in eastern Europe. We were there for two weeks total.

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STORY B: My parents are huge history buffs, so it was really

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STORY B: important to my mom that we go do a couple

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STORY B: of museum type stuff while we travel. We went to

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STORY B: a bunch of different places. Like we went to a

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STORY B: couple of the castles that are over there. She took

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STORY B: us to a bunch of different towns just to kind

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STORY B: of explore and broaden our horizons. While we were over there,

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STORY B: my aunt planned for us to check out one of

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STORY B: the prisons that they have there, and they've turned it

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STORY B: into a museum as well. We pull up, we park,

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STORY B: we go up to the gate and my aunt and

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STORY B: my mom and my brother they're all going inside, and

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STORY B: I'm only at the entrance, but my body will not

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STORY B: move past this point. I felt like my feet were

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STORY B: cemented to the ground. I could not go in, and

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STORY B: my mom thought I was being like a typical teenager

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STORY B: of like I don't want to do this, and I

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STORY B: was like, no, you don't understand, like I physically cannot

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STORY B: bring myself to go inside. I physically felt like I

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STORY B: could not breathe, like I could not get air in

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STORY B: my lungs while I was on the premise. The tour

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STORY B: guide comes over and she's like, are you okay? And

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STORY B: I said, I feel like this overwhelming sense of dread

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STORY B: and I can't physically bring my body past this gate,

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STORY B: But just give me a couple of minutes. I gotta

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STORY B: calm myself down. Finally, we go into the actual prison.

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STORY B: The tour guide walks me over to my aunt and

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STORY B: she goes, you can walk all the way through, and

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STORY B: then at the end it's going to lead you to

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STORY B: the museum. And like my mom had already gone in,

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STORY B: I wasn't even fully inside, and suddenly I just feel

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STORY B: like I can't breathe. The tour guide she's staring at me.

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STORY B: Her eyes are huge, and she's like, are you okay?

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STORY B: And I said, I can't explain it to you. I

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STORY B: feel like I'm choking. And she's like, there's nothing happening

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STORY B: to you so she kind of like walks me over

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STORY B: to the side, and my mom's like, what is going

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STORY B: on with you today? Are you sick?

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STORY B: I said, no, it's this place like I feel like

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STORY B: I'm suffocating. I still had the feeling all throughout the

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STORY B: time that I was on the grounds, and then when

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STORY B: we left and we got in the car, I felt

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STORY B: one hundred percent normal again.

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STORY B: The second time it happened to me, I was in

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STORY B: high school. I went to Shawnee High School in Medford,

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STORY B: New Jersey, and I took a photography class from my

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STORY B: sophomore year to my senior year, and in my junior year,

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STORY B: the teacher decided that we were going to start doing

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STORY B: field trips to different places in the area, and one

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STORY B: of the places that they decided to pick was Eastern

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STORY B: State Penitentiary. Eastern State Penitentiary is a very old prison

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STORY B: in the heart of Philadelphia. It hasn't been used in

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STORY B: many decades. That place is one hundred percent haunted. It's spooky,

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STORY B: but it is very cool. A lot of the prison

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STORY B: is kind of disheveled and broken, so it's got a

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STORY B: lot of very interesting areas to explore, not only like landscapes,

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STORY B: but also to focus on like the lighting aspect of it.

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STORY B: I was super excited and I was like one of

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STORY B: the first ones to sign up. The day of the trip,

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STORY B: we got on the buses, we got there. I think

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STORY B: there was like fifteen students. When we pulled up on

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STORY B: the buses, it kind of looked like a dungeon with

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STORY B: the old stone and the ivy and just very run down.

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STORY B: We were dropped off at the gates. We had about

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STORY B: three hours and they basically said, listen, you can explore

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STORY B: a little bit. Just obviously stay within the walls of

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STORY B: the penitentiary. You can do a guided tour, but it's

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STORY B: really up to everybody. Just meet back where the bus

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STORY B: is to go home. So me and my girlfriend Chelsea,

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STORY B: we are exploring, We're taking pictures. We got to see

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STORY B: all the cool spots like Al Capone's Cell. Al Capone's

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STORY B: Cell is very interesting, to say the least. It has

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STORY B: everything exactly the way that he left it on the

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STORY B: day that he was released. His furniture, there's rugs, there's lamps.

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STORY B: There's a radio, which, according to the Eastern State Penitentiary

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STORY B: tour guides, tends to go off out of nowhere and

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STORY B: it's not connected to anything. It doesn't have any type

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STORY B: of batteries, so shouldn't be doing that. I was really

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STORY B: hoping that the radio would go off while we were there,

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STORY B: but it didn't. It was Chelsea's idea to sign up

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STORY B: for a guided tour. She was like, the only way

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STORY B: we're going to be able to see certain areas of

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STORY B: the penitentiary is if we sign up, because like, Death

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STORY B: Row is not open to the public. You can't just

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STORY B: walk through it. It's like gated off. We were the

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STORY B: only two that were from the field trip on this

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STORY B: guided tour. There was maybe ten of us total. The

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STORY B: tour guide was a woman in her mid forties, and

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STORY B: of course, back when I was seventeen, I was like, ah,

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STORY B: this old lady. But no, she was very nice, very

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STORY B: put together, very soft spoken. She had been doing this

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STORY B: We start the tour. She's taking us towards Death Row,

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STORY B: which is very narrow when you first walk in. She explains,

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STORY B: there's two areas that you can explore in here. The

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STORY B: guard's side, which is the path that most guards took

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STORY B: and then hopefully down towards where the cells were, so

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STORY B: we separated from our little group and we're going through the showers.

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STORY B: sharp pain on the right side of my back. It

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STORY B: was like this burning, stabbing sensation, and it knocks the

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STORY B: wind out of me. I dropped to my knees. I

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STORY B: can't breathe, I can't stand up, I can barely move.

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STORY B: It hit me so hard and so fast out of nowhere.

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STORY B: I was maybe three feet into the shower. I was

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STORY B: in shock on top of being in excruciating pain. I

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STORY B: can't even compare it to anything. I never felt something

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STORY B: so sharp and so sudden come over me like that.

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STORY B: I was sweaty, clammy and like a chill came over

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STORY B: my body. Chelsea came rushing over and she's like, are

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STORY B: you okay? She could instantly tell something was seriously wrong.

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STORY B: She was scared. She thought I really got hurt. She

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STORY B: was like, stand up, Come on, you can do it.

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STORY B: I'm gonna help you. Get up. You gotta get up

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STORY B: off your knees right now. Get up. Like yelling at

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STORY B: me and the tour guide noticed that we hadn't caught up

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STORY B: with in the group. She peeks her head around the

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STORY B: corner and said, just keep walking. At seventeen, I was like,

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STORY B: what is this lady's problem? Like I thought she was

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STORY B: yelling at me, thinking I was goofing off, and I

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STORY B: just remember looking at her and being like, I can't

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STORY B: stand up. I can't catch my breath. You've got to

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STORY B: be kidding me. And I was like I can't, and

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STORY B: she was like, no, trust me, just keep walking. I

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STORY B: could see that she was also panicked. Between the look

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STORY B: on her face and the way that she said it,

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STORY B: I knew I have to like get to her. She

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STORY B: knows something that I don't know, and that if I

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STORY B: just walked to her and I got myself out of

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STORY B: the spot that I was in, I was gonna be fine.

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STORY B: At that point, Chelsea basically lifts me to get me

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STORY B: the tour guide. As we got closer and closer to her,

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STORY B: the better I felt. All of the pain started to

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STORY B: dissipate and the cold sweat started to disappear. When I

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STORY B: got to the tour guide, she was like, are you alright?

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STORY B: And I was like, I think so, And then she

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STORY B: said where was your pain? And I said it was

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STORY B: my right back, and she was kind of intrigued because

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STORY B: was the most intense pain I've ever felt in my life.

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STORY B: So she told me that when this was a functioning prison,

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STORY B: feel well, and when he did that, two other inmates

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STORY B: jumped this guard and stabbed him and he bled out,

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STORY B: and she goes, I don't want to freak you out,

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STORY B: but I've been doing this for ten years now, and

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STORY B: this is the third time that I've seen this reaction

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STORY B: in these showers. And I just remember looking her dead

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STORY B: in the face, saying, you're kidding me, and she was like, no,

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STORY B: literally two other people have dropped in that exact spot,

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STORY B: just like you did. And she said the guard died

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STORY B: from a stabbing to his right kidney. And then that's

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STORY B: when I looked at Chelsea and I'm like, you need

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STORY B: to look at my back right now. And I pulled

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STORY B: my shirt up and I was like, is there any

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STORY B: sure that I did not actually get stabbed. She looks

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STORY B: and she's like, no, there's nothing. No bruises, no scratching,

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STORY B: no red marks, nothing on my back. Death Row was

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STORY B: like the first stop on our tour, so we still

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STORY B: had about forty five minutes left of that, but I

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STORY B: told Chelsea that I wanted to sit for the rest

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STORY B: of the trip until everybody met up with us to leave.

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STORY B: Don't get me wrong, I love everything odd and creepy

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STORY B: and strange, and Halloween's my favorite time of year, but

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STORY B: I don't want it to be in my everyday life.

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STORY B: I don't really know why it happened to me. I'm

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STORY B: now thirty two, I've had two children, and even having

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STORY B: children wasn't as intense as the pain that I felt

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STORY B: that day.

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THERÉSA: This one is extra unsettling. Haunting is generally a "look

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THERÉSA: don't touch" business, so anytime someone experiences physical pain, you

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THERÉSA: know it's serious. That being said, visiting death row of

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THERÉSA: an old prison when you know you're sensitive to the supernatural. Sorry,

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THERÉSA: that's kind of on you. Well, that's it for today, Hauntos.

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THERÉSA: If you've ever been shanked by a ghost, email us

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THERÉSA: at HauntingThePodcast@gmail.com and your story could be featured on an

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THERÉSA: upcoming episode. Until then, keep the portals open and the

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THERÉSA: veils thin, and we'll see you next time here in purgatory.

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THERÉSA: I said, see you next time here in purgatory. Len,

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THERÉSA: When I say purgatory, you say,

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LEN: [MUMBLES]

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THERÉSA: "Limbo" Remember? Okay, you know we just talked about this.

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THERÉSA: You know, you of all people could use a vacation.

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LEN: [MUMBLES]

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CREDITS: Haunting is a production of Glass Podcasts and partnership with

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CREDITS: iHeart Podcast. Haunting is created and executive produced by Nancy Glass,

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CREDITS: Andrea Gunning, Ben Fetterman, and Lauren Lapkus, and it is

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CREDITS: hosted by Lauren Lapkus as their character Therésa. The show

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CREDITS: is directed by Aleah Welsh and produced by Trey Morgan.

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CREDITS: It is written by Aleah Welsh, with additional writing by

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CREDITS: Nancy Glass, Trey Morgan, and Ben Fetterman. Additional production support

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CREDITS: by Curry Richman and Todd Gans. Additional voice acting by

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CREDITS: Trey Morgan as the character producer Len Walker. Editing and

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CREDITS: sound designed by Matt Delvecchio and mixed by Dave Saia.

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CREDITS: Operations and production support by Kristin Melchiorre. Haunting's theme and

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CREDITS: original compositions work composed by Oliver Baines and Dorry Macaulay

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CREDITS: of Noiser. Music Library provided by Mybe Music. Special thanks

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CREDITS: to Speakeasy Sound Studios in Burbank, California. For more shows

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