1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: In motion is soul go off to throw, wants to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: throw to shock then dive down the thirty one yard line. 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: Oh that is beautiful. Welcome to the twenty in the 4 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: Huddle Podcast presented by Microsoft. I am Tim Twentyman. He 5 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 1: is PJ. Clark and Peach. It's the postseason edition of 6 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: the twenty in the Huddle Podcast. Unfortunately, sadly, yeah, it 7 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: is sadly. I look, give Dan Campbell, Brad Crumbs, all 8 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: these players credit. I mean, if this could have went 9 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: real south at one and six, but look, they stayed 10 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: the course. Um, they were confident in themselves and their 11 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: process and what they were doing, and they knew it 12 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: one and six they weren't that bad of a football team. 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: And look they go eight and two to finish the 14 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: year nine and eight, a winning record, now tons of 15 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: momentum heading into the off season. The consolation prize, you 16 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: got to knock Aaron Rodgers. And it looks some great 17 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: things from that game, obviously, Jamal Williams, you know, getting 18 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 1: the thousand yards in breaking Barry Sanders record. Um, Jared 19 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: Golf continuing to play good football. That defense I thought 20 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: played well all game long. Kirby Joseph I feel like 21 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: that's a that's a big takeaway. Three picks of Aaron Rod. 22 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: It's pretty cool at the very least. You can say 23 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: whatever you want about it, but pretty pretty cool. Though. 24 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: I thought I saw something on Twitter or something going 25 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: across that, like er Lacker in all his years in 26 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: Chicago had three picks as Yeah, and Kirby Joseph had 27 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: him in like one year and ten games. Yeah, and 28 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: a lot of good performances, you know, uh, you know, 29 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: Aiden played well. Um, there was just a lot of guys. 30 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: It was a really good way to finish that game 31 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: and to knock the Packers out. Obviously, you would have 32 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: hoped that the Rams could have handled business there. It 33 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: went to overtime, it was close. They had their chances. Um. 34 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: But but really, when I think about this, and I 35 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: know people were complaining about the refereing in the Seattle 36 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: LA game, but Detroit had their chances, yeah, to handle 37 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: the business themselves. You know, you win that game in Minnesota, 38 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: you know, you take care of business late there. You know, 39 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: obviously Seattle you score forty five points and lose the game. 40 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: You could have handled it right there. And then you 41 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: didn't show up at Carolina you know, so I think 42 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: they are. You know, they have only themselves to blame 43 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: for not making places, but credit to them for turning 44 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: their situation around and putting themselves in a spot where 45 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: it went to the last day of the season to 46 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: have a chance to go in when you're one in six. 47 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 1: Nobody thought that was going to be the case. It's 48 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: hard to go one and six and make the playoffs. 49 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: And the fact that that was even a consideration and 50 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: it got until you know, seven thirty before the eight 51 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: twenty kickoff of the last game, I mean, you really, 52 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: you can't ask for anything more than that. Obviously, we 53 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: would love to be previewing a matchup with the forty 54 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: nine ers this week, but it is what it is. 55 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: And the fact that that was even a small chance 56 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: of happening from one in six, it's just a testament 57 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: to everybody in this building and the work that they 58 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: put in. And so, you know, you're not preparing for 59 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: San Francisco. You're talking about the end of the season 60 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: and the off season and the draft and everything that 61 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: gets going. And every year, look, Dan Campbell has his 62 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: final press conference and then Brad Holmes has his, and 63 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: both those happened this week. What we're gonna do is 64 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna takes three points from Dan, three points from Brad, 65 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: kind of discuss them here, from them and talk about 66 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: them a little bit, and that's how we'll kind of 67 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: finish this up. Let's start with Dan, and you know, 68 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: one of the questions that he was asked is what 69 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: are you proud of? What are you most proud of? Of? 70 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: What you guys were able to accomplish this season? And 71 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: this is what Dan had to say, Oh yeah, I 72 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: just I guess if anything, just crews were on the 73 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: right track one more time. I just know that the 74 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: coaches that I have here, the the players that we've drafted, 75 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: the players that we've capped that we were here before us, 76 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: the free agents we've signed, it was right. It was 77 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: the right decision, man. These are the right guys for us, 78 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: particularly in twenty twenty two. Now there's going to be 79 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: decisions have to be made moving forward. But they they 80 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: fit us, man, They fit the mold and and to us, 81 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: you have to meet a certain type of criteria to 82 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: be here. We don't just spriically look at talent, you know, 83 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: and and our guys have created that culture you know, 84 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: they've embraced it and it's part of who we are 85 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: and it's it's fine, will always compete and look, Peach, 86 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I agree with them. I think the one 87 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: thing that you love about this season, I think you 88 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: take from that eight and two finishes that they are 89 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: on track. I think they have now very much built 90 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: a culture, a foundation built on toughness, built on grit, 91 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: which he loves. Like you don't. You don't come back 92 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: from one and six unless you're a tough, creedy football team. 93 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: And then you believe in your head coach and your 94 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: head quote coach can get you out of some tough situations, 95 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: which he's proven he's able to do. And so you know, 96 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: I agree that the biggest take away from from this 97 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: season for me is that why the future does look 98 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: bright now? And I think he talks so much in 99 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: that quote about having the right guys and the guys 100 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: that they needed to battle back and the guys that 101 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: they thought, you know, instilled what they're trying to build here. 102 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: And I think as you look at you know, the 103 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: list of free agents is not as long as it 104 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: was last year, but as you look at those Kaminskis 105 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: and guys bugs like guys like that. I think you're 106 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: going to see a lot of those guys. At least 107 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna make an effort to bring them back because 108 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: those are the culture guys that they want to build 109 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: around and think got them to the point where you're 110 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: competing for a playoff spot in the last week this season. 111 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: All right, let's shift the focus a little bit on 112 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: potentially a guy the Lions could lose. Um Luke Ben 113 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: Johnson is Scot very real? Yeah, very very really Scot. 114 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: Three interviews so far that we know about. Look interviews 115 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn took interviews last year, like this is what 116 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: happens when you're successful, when you're top five offense, your 117 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator's gonna get so you're gonna get he's gonna 118 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: get phone calls. Um and this kind of what are 119 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: we talking about the potential Campbell coaching tree here now spreading, spreading, 120 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: it's on tating winds, its wings, it's it's it's on 121 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: the table table. But here's what what Dan had to 122 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: say about Bennet and and the interview process upcoming for him. Uh. 123 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: I think a ton of Ben I think he's Uh, 124 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: I've said it before. I just think he's extremely bright, 125 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: he's creative, he's organized, he's a great communicator. I mean 126 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: he uh, he just he's he's got it and uh 127 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: and I would do anything I can to help him. 128 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: That's the bottom line. Of course, I don't want to 129 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: lose him. But but I'm not gonna hold him back either. 130 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: I would help him anyway I can help him, all right, Peach, 131 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: what do you think is he is Ben Johnson the 132 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: head coach of the blank in in a month or so? 133 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: Or do you think he's back? I mean, I hope 134 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: he's back because it would be both hoping. It would 135 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: be a lot of fun to see what year two 136 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: and a full jamo and a full complement of weapons. 137 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: That would be fun. Get that little flee flicker going 138 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: a jamo up the sideline, let's see what happens. Why 139 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: not not that Swift did it poorly, but that would 140 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: be kind of fun. I don't know. I think he's 141 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: got a really good shot. I think you don't think 142 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: he's going to impress people to the Lions benefit. There 143 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: are a lot of other offensive coaches available, Like there's 144 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: Frank Wright, who obviously has a lot of experience. The 145 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: offensive coordinate for the Eagles. I mean, there are other 146 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: guys getting these calls, so I think, you know, he's 147 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: going to be an option for all of these teams. 148 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: And would not surprise me if he got a second 149 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: interview with a Houston and you you're looking at, you know, 150 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: a new quarterback in that situation, potentially with the number 151 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: two pick, and he can mold the CJ. Stroud or 152 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: Bryce Young, whoever they end up with, into whatever he 153 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: wants them to be. And Houston's got a lot of 154 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: offensive talent. We saw what Carolina can do. Indianapolis we 155 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: saw enjoyed practices, They got weapons. So any of those 156 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: teams that he's even just interviewing with now he hasn't 157 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: gotten a call from Arizona or yet or any of 158 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: these other teams at least as of when we're recording it. 159 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: But these teams all have offensive weapons that Ben Johnson 160 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: could do a lot with. He could do a lot with. 161 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: But Ben strikes me as a very calculated guy too. Obviously, 162 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: he's very He's not going to take He is not 163 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: a job that he doesn't really want one hundred percent, 164 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: one hundred percent, especially because he knows the situation he's 165 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: in here. He loves Dan Campbell, loves the freedom Dan 166 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: Campbell gives him to just be him. Obviously, he knows 167 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: what he's got here. With one of the top two 168 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: offensive lines that are all under contract, both running backs, 169 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: the quarterback you mentioned Jamo, You've got one of the 170 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: biggest upcoming stars in the game. And i'man Ross Saint 171 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: Brown and but look, the reality is there's only thirty's 172 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of money involved here too, and 173 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: that's just the business side of the NFL. But I 174 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: think Ben has the confidence in himself and his own 175 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: abilities that he won't take a bad situation just to 176 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: become a head coach get them. Because I think he's 177 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: confident himself that this is going to come around next year, 178 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: to the year after, to the year after two. He 179 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: strikes me as that confident of a man, and so um, 180 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: I think it's really got to be the right situation 181 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: for him to build. I don't think he's just going 182 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: to take anything just to take it. No, And that's 183 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: a gamble, I mean, because these coaching carousels, once you know, 184 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: your name gets called one time and it might not 185 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: come up again. And if you don't jump on the 186 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: opportunity while you have it, you might fall off the 187 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: carousel next year, and that is a gamble that he 188 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: might have to make. But I mean, you look at 189 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: you look at these jobs, and you compare at least 190 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: the offensive weapons that he would be controlling here in 191 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: Detroit versus some of these other teams. He knows what 192 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: he's got here. It's a it's not a mystery. He's 193 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: in a great situation. Yeah, No, there's no losing for 194 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: him for sure. Um, all right, let's flip one more. 195 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: Let's with with Dan before we get to Brad. This 196 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: rookie class, and we talked about it, and you know, 197 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: the sacks when you look at the defense, defensive guys, 198 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: we saw a little bit of of of Jamo get 199 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: rolling there. But um, the future is really really bright 200 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: with these rookies. And Dan Campbell said as much here. Yeah, 201 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think ultimately, any of your draft picks 202 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: you just want to see you want to see them develop, 203 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: You want to see them get a little bit better 204 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: every week. You want to see that a mistake that 205 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: they made early they don't make again. And uh and 206 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: really they've all done that and that includes Aiden you know, 207 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: and I go back to this, I mean, he you know, 208 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: it wasn't He didn't just walk in the door and 209 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: all of a sudden all these great things happen. I mean, 210 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: he get when it goes into Washington has three sacks, 211 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: and then it's it's expected that he'll have three sacks 212 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: every week from then on. And that's that's just not 213 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: the reality. But the but the fact is he was disruptive, 214 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: and he's a football player, and he did improve, he 215 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: did get better. Um, and they all did. And and 216 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: when you're when you're a young group, uh, your rookies 217 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: can develop like that, like Kirby and Rodriguez and Pascal. 218 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: Once we got him going, you know, you improved, Hutch 219 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: and then on top of that, you had Mac from 220 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: last year. Saint Brown was better, Seoul was better. And 221 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: now that's that's becoming the nucleus of your team. Um. 222 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: And so the Sky's Barnes got better. I mean, all 223 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: these young guys we've got are just continuing to Uh, 224 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: they all took a step up. They all took a 225 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: step up. And that's on top of the steady forces 226 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: of Ragnow and Jonah, you know, and and Decker and 227 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: I mean Alex being back again, so our veterans, Uh, 228 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: we're really a solid force for us once again. And 229 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: it's just it's a good combination right now and there 230 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: again we'll allay improve on this roster. Yeah, and Peage, 231 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: you've gotta love the young guys, and I would I 232 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: would extend this to the second The guys were a 233 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: lot of credits of the second year, the second year guys, 234 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: the Penny Souls, right, the Derek Barnes is a'man Rossaint Browns, 235 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: those guys that are kind of you know now they're established, 236 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: they're coming out of Those guys are the core, and 237 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: these rookies are trying to, you know, get to that 238 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: point where they're the core. But we can already see 239 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: with guys like Aiden, with Malcolm, with Kirby, that they're 240 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: quickly getting into that core status. Those are going to 241 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: be guys that you build on. And you love the 242 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: fact that all these guys, you know, got a ton 243 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: of playing time this year, and look it was early 244 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: in the season. You were playing a lot of guys. 245 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: I think that's part of the reason, you know, why 246 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: they were so bad defensively. I think some of these 247 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: guys had to grow up a little bit, and we 248 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: saw that and they did. And when they started to 249 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: grow up and make more plays and learn the league 250 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: and just figure out what this NFL thing is all about, 251 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: that defense started to play better down the stretch. Carolina 252 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: game was standing obviously, but at the futures, Bright, look, 253 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: you need pieces on defense. The numbers are still the numbers. 254 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: Do you finish thirty second in the league. You need 255 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: some more pieces there. But I think there's also some 256 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: pieces there defensively that you're like, Okay, I think these 257 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: guys are gonna be players. We just get a couple 258 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: guys around them. The right pieces here, they're helping hand 259 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: and you can maybe take a bigger leap with how 260 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: else some of these were. He's played this year. I mean, 261 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: the rookies are. You can't ask for any more production 262 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: as a rookie, especially out of his sixth round pick, 263 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: like James Houston and Malcolm Rodriguez, and the fact that 264 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: a the Lions gave them opportunities to give, you know, 265 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: grow and develop throughout the year and give them sixth 266 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: round pick opportunities to start late in a in a 267 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: playoff push. And some of that is due to injury 268 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: James Houston only came up because the aqueras were down 269 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: in Charles Harris and it's just circumstance, but he was, 270 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: he was trending, and from they were he was getting 271 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: me to find a way to get him. I remember 272 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: talking to Decker and he was like, I was telling 273 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: Hank fairly for like a month, like, why is this 274 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: guy not because he's beating me every day in practice? Yeah, 275 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: and and and Dan didn't even mention James Houston in 276 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: that whole little timut, like, oh, dad, the guy with 277 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: eight sacks in seven games. Yeah, sure that guy didn't 278 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: even make the cut on that list. But I'm sure 279 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: that it was on purpose. You know, that was on purpose. 280 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: Hide him behind him a little bit. But you know, 281 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: Tracy goes down, you slat Kirbey in and he starts 282 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: the rest of the year, and you're just developing those guys. 283 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: And yeah, it was unfortunate to have the injuries that allowed, 284 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: you know, Kirby to step in such a major role 285 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: and James Houston step in much such a major role 286 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: that you're seeing the dividends of that on the back 287 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: end now because now you know you have two pieces 288 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: next year, you have Malcolm next year and then the 289 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: second year guys. I mean Len McNeil played every game 290 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: and was in there in the middle and was helped 291 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: by He's only going to get better because you have 292 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: two rookie edges that were outstanding this year. So he 293 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: can press the pocket from the middle, and you got 294 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: two guys that can finish down the edge and amend Rock. 295 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: I mean we haven't been talking about when you owns 296 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: Rika yet. Yeah. I mean, you know there's a guy 297 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: obviously back injury. You hope that's well, but there's another 298 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: guy part of that class that that Saint Brown and 299 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: panic class that you hope can now get past the 300 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: back injury and start to start. You know, he would 301 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: to catch up and develop because this was the scene 302 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: to look to potentially move back in the first round 303 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: of game. That's how much they valued m Levi Ownzurique 304 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: and so if he can come back and be that guy, 305 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: I mean, there's just another guy to your point of 306 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: just you know, coming and being a guy. Yeah. And 307 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: the and the main takeaway from from me is how 308 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: he ended that little clip we just played is we're 309 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: only going to improve on this roster and this is 310 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: now with I know we're going to talk about it 311 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: with Brad, but there's a little more money to be 312 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: thrown around, and there's a little more veteran presence that 313 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: could be added, and there's a lot more draft picks 314 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: that you can either cash in on or go ship 315 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: them out for more vets. So there's a lot of 316 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: improvement to be done. But this core over the last 317 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: two years is a home run so far. Ill at 318 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: you with the tease. I'm in the content business. So 319 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: because of that beautiful teas, Let's shift over to Brad 320 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: Holmes who talked on Tuesday. Dan talk Monday, UM, and 321 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: same thing with Brad. Let's go through kind of some 322 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: some a few points here. Now, obviously there are a 323 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: few more points UM with Brad, but you know, we 324 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: don't want to make this thing an hour and a half. 325 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: I think we could. I would definitely would definitely do that. 326 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: But let's highlight a few and let's start with just 327 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: the most important position on the field and and the 328 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: GM's confidence that he has in quarterback Jared Golf. Here's 329 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: what Brad had to say about dud Jared. Yeah, I 330 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: don't really know what the decision is, UM, I just 331 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: I was always confident in him because because I've been 332 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: with him from the get go, since he was drafted 333 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: back when I was with LA, I just kind of 334 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: know how resilient and mentally tough he is. And um, 335 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: you know, I think a lot of it was me 336 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: knowing all the success he had in LA. I think 337 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: that was kind of forgotten about a little bit when 338 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: he got here, And I think he was put in 339 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: a very tough situation. Um I don't I don't. I 340 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: don't want to say. I don't know how many quarterbacks 341 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: in that situation that you know he was in last year. 342 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: But we had a lot of injuries, man, and you 343 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: know we didn't really have have the weapons around him. 344 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: You know. Uh, Dan had to really make a very 345 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: tough decision on the staff offensively and make a change there. 346 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: So and he stayed the course. I've talked to you 347 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: guys about this at length, but knowing what he's made of, UM, 348 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: that's why I just kept I kept faith, kept confidence, 349 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: and I respect to Hell because I told him, look, 350 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: we'll hold up our end of the bargain. Like we 351 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: we were being held accountable. We got to put you 352 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: in the right situation with the right pieces around you, 353 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: you know, stability on offense, and felt like we did 354 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: that and he held up his end of the bargain 355 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: and I think it just worked out. But I didn't. 356 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 1: I didn't really have any doubt or waiver. Again, like 357 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: you said, Eric, I never really deemed him as a bridge, 358 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: you know, I think everybody else did. But I think 359 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: it's a little bit of the regency bias from what 360 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: he had to go through last year. Yeah, Peg, I 361 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: couldn't agree with with Brad Moore, and I love the 362 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: art there where it was like, you can do a lot, 363 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: you know, you can, you can, it's easier to get worse. 364 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: It's easier to get worse at quarterback position than better. 365 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: And I thought it couldn't have been said any better. 366 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: You know, be careful what you wish for sometimes, you know, 367 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: as a fan, you want that hot young thing and 368 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: you could end up with Zach Wilson. I mean, that's 369 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: just that the reality of the situation at quarterback, and 370 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: look what that's done to the Jets organization and how 371 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 1: it's put them behind the eight ball. You have a 372 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: terrific defense and you got worse at quarterback and now 373 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: you're out of the playoffs and questioning and everything in 374 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: your future is so Yeah. I thought it was a 375 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: great point. But when I look at Jared, I look 376 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: at a guy that, um, obviously offensively they started the 377 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: year terriffic, but he was making some mistakes. And look, 378 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: he's a veteran guy. He could have been like, oh, no, 379 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: don't worry, I got this. Look, No, he said, okay, 380 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: I'll take the criticism. What do I do to get better? 381 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson said, hey, let's do this, this and this, 382 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: and I think will be much better. And credit to 383 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: Jared for saying, yeah, you know, I think you're right, 384 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: let's work on this. He goes three hundred and twenty 385 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: four passes without throwing an interception to end the season. 386 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: He's top six I think in every major statistical category, 387 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: and I think there's no question that he is the 388 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: quarterback of the future for this football team. I mean, 389 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: I think going in you couldn't ask for a better 390 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: Jared guff season. Just the way everything ended up, and yeah, 391 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: the rocky start, the Dallas game, Seattle Philly Nolan, Yeah, 392 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: throwing these pick sixes that ended up, you know, costing 393 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: you the game. In the score at the end totality. Yeah, 394 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: but you know, last nine games, fifteen touchdowns, no no 395 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: interceptions and just playing safe and that's something you know, 396 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: but making big plays, yeah, it was, and that I 397 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: think was the nice balance that. Look, he was very 398 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: conscious of not making the big mistake, but he also 399 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: let some some balls. Lusen gave his receiver some open. 400 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: Part of that was was Chark finally get healthy and 401 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: getting back, and you had your your downfield threat and 402 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: now you're gonna have another last season with Jamo. No 403 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: matter who the offensive coordinator is. That's going to open 404 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: things up. It just it is because that's such a 405 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: weapon for you, and you know you're still it remains 406 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: to be seen what wide receivers are in the building 407 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: next year if Chark is back, but you've obviously if 408 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: he does come back, you've got some rapport there now, 409 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: and that really I think helped him. But my takeaway 410 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: from Brad on that was, you know, we told him 411 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: that we had to hold up our end of the bargain, 412 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: and they did that with signing Charc and now you 413 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: got to go figure out if you're bringing him back 414 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: or if you're bringing somebody else in. But you got 415 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: Jamo and you kept this offensive line together and you 416 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: really tried to just stack the room, and you got 417 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: to figure out what you're gonna do with running back 418 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: now that Jamal's leaving. Do you bring in a second 419 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: guy there? But you have to hold up. You have 420 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: to give him every compliment of weapon that he needs 421 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: and reward him for an outstanding season when Jared was 422 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: that his best la when when they were winning playoff 423 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: games and he was taking that to the super Bowl. 424 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: What they do well, they tie Gurley. They're running the 425 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: football really really well. They had play action. They could 426 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: protect Jared with the offensive line. I mean, he's the 427 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: best play action quarterback in the league this year, and 428 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: he had weapons on the outside. And so they've built 429 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: that same recipe here. They want to run the football 430 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: two thousand plus rushing yards as a football team. They've 431 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: got an offensive line and weapons to be dangerous in 432 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: play action. You mentioned he was the best in play action. 433 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: They've built exactly what Jared does well has been built 434 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: here in Detroit. And that's why I think it's just 435 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: a match for both. That's a testament to Brad who 436 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,719 Speaker 1: was there for both and knows what it takes and 437 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: knows what worked and how to rebuild it here, Well, 438 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: we need to switch over to the other side of 439 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: the ball, and we talked about a little bit. The defense, 440 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: excuse me, has struggled a little bit. But Brad was 441 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: asked specifically, Hey, what position groups do you think need 442 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: the most work or you've got, like you mentioned, twenty 443 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: seven million dollars roughly right around that's without any moves 444 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: that you make to maybe you know, increase that that 445 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: that cap a little bit. You've got two first round picks, 446 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: two second round picks, your third round pick. I mean, 447 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: you've got AMMO, you've got draft AMMO, and you've got 448 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: cap space. So where will Brad Holmes use that cap 449 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: space the most? I mean, it's a good question, it's 450 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: fair question. Um, there's a lot of different areas that 451 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: we can go, especially with you know, the resource that 452 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: will have available to us. UM. Obviously, our defense was 453 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: ranked thirty seconds, So I mean it's pretty obvious that 454 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: you know, we're we're gonna have to utilize some resources 455 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: to try and improve that defense. UM. I do believe 456 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: that there's some young guys on our defense right now 457 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 1: that are only going to get better. UM, you know, 458 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: everything that Malcolm Rodriguez was able to do. You know, 459 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: I know that linebacker kind of came in as a question, 460 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: and but I think that that thing ended as it's 461 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: it's more of a positive and more of a rent 462 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: of Anzeloni having a hundred plus tackle season, Derek Barnes 463 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: taking a jump, and then Malcolm Rodriguez. But and I think, 464 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, our pass rush is on the come. You know, 465 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: obviously Aiden with um nine and a half sacks, I 466 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: think he's you know, he's only gonna get better. James 467 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: Houston's only gonna get better, so you know, um, and 468 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: then guys that we did not have, you know, at 469 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: available to us is Charles Harris. I mean, you know, 470 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: Charles Harris had he had to go on IR so 471 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: him coming back, you know, Romeo had to kind of 472 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: come back slowly from a really tough injury. So there's 473 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: pieces there. Um, they always weren't available to us, but 474 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: we saw enough growth. But obviously we need to improve 475 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: in that area, and I think we will. Man, I 476 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: couldn't agree with brad Well. I think it's pretty defense. Defense, defense, defense, defense, 477 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: tight end, running back, maybe a guard. I was gonna say, 478 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: right guard. I feel like you can, you can find somebody. 479 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not shooting out big Viel the door, right. Yeah, 480 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: back is okay. Yeah, he's a proven VET guy, great 481 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: in that room. But yeah, you could make a case 482 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: for a running backup guard and a tight end. I think, 483 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: you know, maybe a backup quarterback a young guy did develop. 484 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody that's gonna push Jared obviously, we 485 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: just covered that. But they need help on defense. Yeah, 486 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you look at it was thirtieth in total defense. 487 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: I think they were thirtieth and points allowed. I think 488 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: they were twenty seventh against the past, twenty eighth or 489 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: twenty ninth against the run. And look, they played better 490 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: the second half of the year. And we talked about 491 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: you like guys like Aid and Malcolm and Kirby and 492 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: Jerry Jacobs, and I think they've got some pieces there, 493 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: bugs Leam, but they need some game breakers. They need 494 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: some guys that I think can make even more big 495 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: plays and just be a steady force for that team. 496 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: And it's going to come from the defensive side of 497 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: the football. And I agree with Brad and I think 498 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: you're actually when you're looking at the draft and six 499 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: and eighteen where those two picks fall. I mean, it's 500 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: it's super early, obviously, but there's gonna be four or 501 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: f my first round corners, which is a big need. 502 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: You could use another safety depending on you know, are 503 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: you bringing Elliott back? Where's Tracy Hatton Rehabne need a linebacker, 504 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: need an interior lineman to to kind of push that 505 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: pocket with with a leam and bugs and you know 506 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: Kamensky if he's back LEVI, but you need an interior 507 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: pass rusher, which you know is Jalen Carter getting the six? 508 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: Probably not, but you see what happens. But you've got eighteen. Yeah, 509 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: and you've you know, that's what you were talking about earlier. 510 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: You got you have eighteen in the second round pick 511 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: to move up to for a guy that you want 512 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: or however you um decide you want to do it. Um, 513 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: he's got the AMMO. But I think everyone agrees, and 514 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: I think all of you out there can agree that, Um, 515 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: it's gonna be heavy defense. I think it's gonna be 516 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: heavy defense and free agency. I think it's good be 517 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: heavy defense in the draft, and I think all you 518 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: and I think both of us will be fine with that. 519 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: But that's not to say that there are not areas 520 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 1: on the offense, Like if if Chark goes, you got 521 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: to have another wide receiver in Jaer. Got to figure 522 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: out what you're doing with the second running back along 523 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: with Swift, whether it's Jabal or outside the organization. And 524 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, at some level, I think you need to 525 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: draft a developmental at the least interior lineman just guard 526 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: spot versatility. If Evan Brown, I think you're at that 527 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: point too where you could use a young quarterback that 528 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: that you could start to develop in your scheme. And 529 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: look if Jared's twenty eight, so you know, but you 530 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: can also flip a young guy that you develop for 531 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: a year or two for an asset. He becomes an 532 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: asset to other teams. So I think that could very 533 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: much not only be an upgrade at the backup quarterback position, 534 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: but an asset moving forward. You can never have enough 535 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: good nolity quarterbacks in your system, So solve the defense, 536 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: but not at the ignoring of that and sometimes be 537 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: Bradwall Yeah, I mean, it's best player available for Brad 538 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: and I think if that happens to be a position 539 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: on offense, and it's clearly here on his board and 540 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: the other defensive guys are here. He's proving he ain't 541 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: gonna reach. He's not going to reach for that position 542 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: and need. He's going to take the best football player available, 543 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: which is that's why this thing is flipping in the 544 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: right direction, because they're taking good football players that fit 545 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: what they do and that's how you become a good 546 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: football team. All right, Well, that's the kind of draft 547 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: part of it. But the free agent part of it 548 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: too is money. Money. Yes, he's got a few more assets. 549 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: We mentioned it before. I think they're according over the 550 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: cap dot com. They're raided around twenty seven million right now. Um, 551 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: you know, you can make some decisions on big V 552 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: you know some other guys, um that could free up 553 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: some cap space, decide not to resign, guys go a 554 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: different route younger. So that number can fluctuate quite a 555 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: bit here, but it's more than he's had in his tenure. 556 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: And um, this is what Brad had to say about 557 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: being able to open the wallet a little bit and 558 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: potentially spending free agency. No, I mean, I don't. I 559 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: mean spending big is subjective a little bit, but um, 560 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: but no, I'm not worried about that. Um. Again, like 561 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: Dan and I have a plan that we're going to 562 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: stick to in terms of how we're going to construct 563 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: our roster, and um, you know those guys will all play. 564 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: So just because we add a veteran or a big 565 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: spin guy, um, and free agency, it doesn't mean that 566 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: another guy. One thing that is very prevalent, that is 567 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: high priorities player development in this building, and that that 568 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: that that will never be a short coming around here. 569 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: So when we talk about you know, stunning a guy's growth, um, 570 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: you know that that usually doesn't happen around here. So 571 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 1: regardless we'll be doing free agency, I think our young 572 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: guys will still take the elpbroad trajectory. All right, what 573 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: do you take from that feature? I think it's gonna 574 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: be and and you know, I know a lot of 575 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: fans were annoyed with a little how slow it went 576 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: last year and there was no Marcus Williams or any 577 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: of those big contracts handed out. But I think it's 578 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: going to be slow and steady wins the race again. 579 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: I think that's what the vibe I got to there. 580 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: I don't think there's gonna be a one hundred million 581 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: dollar free agent. I'd be very surprised if there was 582 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: no But if you can get a guy that could 583 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: go for one hundred million, but you keep him to 584 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: you know, three years or whatever, you know, I don't, 585 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: I don't think. And the way the class is obviously 586 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: guys can get cut and you never know what it 587 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: looks like until that second week of March. But the 588 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: early returns, I feel like there's no one that is 589 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: going to get this big, massive, long term contract at 590 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: this point. And I thought he made a good point 591 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: too when he said, you know, yeah, there are guys, 592 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: you know in terms of the freezer put there guys 593 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: to thirty one other teams too, Like it's you're competing 594 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: to resign John commits. He's got a lot of great 595 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: tape out there. He's gonna get cuts. For get eight 596 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: teams try to claim him. And then he just went 597 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: and produced, you know, a guy like DJ Chark. I 598 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: think some teams are going to say, okay, look all 599 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: the tough catches down the field, you know, balls that 600 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: he made. That could be a nice addition to our 601 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: off fense. You know, I mean, you're right, and so 602 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: you're competing with thirty one other teams and so it's 603 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: not just hey, we're resigning our guy back. We're resigning 604 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: a guy back that's also coveted by a lot of teams. 605 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: And the value of resigning that guy is we know 606 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: exactly what that guy's about, how he studies, how he 607 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: fits our culture, how he fits in the locker room. 608 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: You don't always know that about guys. There's some guesswork 609 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: and as as much work as you can do in 610 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: free agency, you know, until they get in the building, 611 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: you don't really know how they fit, how they fit 612 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: in the meeting room, how they fit with their teammates, 613 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: what's their culture fit? Are they tough? You know? What 614 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: do they do when things get you know, rough? When 615 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: you when you start, you know, you lose three games 616 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: in a row. Are they a guy that shuts it off? 617 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: Or they does he put in the extra work? And 618 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: so you know all that about your guys. And so 619 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: that's why I see if they're talented, you don't just 620 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: resign a guy to resign him A guy like commenced him, 621 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: mean he's talented, he does a lot of good things. 622 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: Guy like chart. So I think if they go and 623 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: spend money resigning guys, I don't think you'd look at 624 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: that like, oh, they were very conservative and they weren't 625 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: aggressive enough to do it. I just think they want 626 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: guys that they very much know their plan here, the 627 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: type of guys that they want to build, the type 628 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: of guys that they want to have here long term. 629 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: And if it's guys that have already been in this 630 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: building and they've identified as fits, signing your own guy 631 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: isn't being conservative. It's the right thing to do with 632 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: that fits your football team. No, And they're gonna bring 633 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: outside free agents in just as they did last year. 634 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: You know, they signed a lot of guys back from 635 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: from two years ago to bring back for this year. 636 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: But there was you know, Chris Board, Mike Hughes, those 637 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: veteran additions that are going to come in Chark and 638 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: just compete. And you saw Mike Hughes got a lot 639 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: of playing time by the end of the year, and 640 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: Chris Board was a big coverage linebacker and a special 641 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: team stace. But then you got the Kaminskis and Bugs 642 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: and Josh Woods and those guys are so clearly culture guys, 643 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: anzelone that you know, this team it was built around 644 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: this year, and you know there are worse things to 645 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: do than running back, and I win team that was 646 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: went eight and two to finish the year. I understand 647 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: that you know it might not be as fun to 648 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: bring back all your own guys, but you know you 649 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: finished eight and two to end the year, and I 650 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: think bringing back guys and mixing them with outside guys, 651 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: I think you just go to camp, you say, best 652 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: man wins, let's compete for it. And at the least 653 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: thing because you're resigned. Because you resign a guy doesn't 654 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: mean he's guaranteed that spot. You know, you signed back Alexanderlon, 655 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: you draft a linebacker, you bring a linebacker in. Yeah, 656 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: best man wins. There's there's gonna be a a new blood 657 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: no matter what. I mean. You got two ones and 658 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: two twos and the rest of the drafts. So even 659 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: if even if you're you're slowly bringing back these guys 660 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: for two to three year deals and you're not making 661 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: the big splash, and there are big splashes out there. 662 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: I mean there's Jesse Bates is a need at safety 663 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: and Dron Payne, and you know these guys can get 664 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: extended before free agency. But there are big names out 665 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: there if you want to go get them. But if 666 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: it's going to be slow and steady. I think the 667 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: crop of Lions free agents is a good group to 668 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: bring back for that. All right, Well, that puts the 669 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: bow on twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three, a 670 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: little bit of twenty three and they're a little bit 671 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: of January. But that's gonna be it for the twenty 672 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: In the Huddle podcast, UM, we're gonna you know, we've 673 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: got it. We've got a plan. We're gonna. Yeah, we're 674 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: gonna keep us going throughout the off season. Um. I 675 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: hope you guys have liked it every week, but I 676 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: think we'll kind of we'll do some major events. We're 677 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: gonna go down to the Senior Bowl. We're gonna do 678 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: the podcast from mobile, and in a few weeks we're 679 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: gonna hit up the Super Bowl. Some of our guys 680 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: might be there. We're gonna be on Radio Row and 681 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: see if we can't get you know, a lot of 682 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: guys around the league talking about the Lions, some of 683 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: our own players. We'll just see kind of what we 684 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: can get down there and do that. And throughout the 685 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: off season we'll you know, for the draft obviously, and 686 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: the owner the owners meetings combine well, we'll check in 687 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: with you guys and do a podcast from all those locations. 688 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: So UM, I hope you've liked the podcast. I've enjoyed 689 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: doing it. Pj's done a great job producing it, and 690 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: there will be a lot more in twenty twenty three.