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Speaker 1: Twitter right now at Late Kick Josh if you want

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Speaker 1: to check it out anyway. This is a college football podcast.

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Speaker 1: We do not take an off season. We do Late

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Speaker 1: I know that Notre Dame led by Charlie Weiss at

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's my five pack along with Army Navy,

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Speaker 1: overrated the whole eight game versus nine game conference schedule debate.

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Speaker 1: He thinks that's overrated. He said, what people should be

440
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Speaker 1: talking about more is we're going to an expanded playoff.

441
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Speaker 1: Is someone going to actually benefit by not playing in

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Speaker 1: the SEC Championship Game. He's got a good point here,

443
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Speaker 1: and I don't think some folks took the time to

444
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Speaker 1: properly digest what he's suggesting, because you immediately saw people

445
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Speaker 1: when that quote went out saying, well, that's solved because

446
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Speaker 1: there's incentive to win the conference title because you can

447
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Speaker 1: get a first round by.

448
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Speaker 2: If you're a conference champion. That's true.

449
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Speaker 1: What about the team that loses the SEC championship There

450
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Speaker 1: aren't just there are two teams in that game, not

451
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Speaker 1: just one team. So yeah, the winner, that's great. If

452
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Speaker 1: Georgia goes to the SEC championship game and they win it,

453
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Speaker 1: that's wonderful. But let me ask you this. Let's just

454
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Speaker 1: go back to last year. But let's pretend there was

455
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Speaker 1: a twelve team playoff. Alabama didn't win the West, Alabama

456
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Speaker 1: did not even go and play for the SEC championship.

457
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Speaker 1: LSU did and they lost. Who would have benefited more

458
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Speaker 1: in that scenario Alabama sitting at home or LSU having

459
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Speaker 1: beaten Bama and earning the opportunity to go to Atlanta

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Speaker 1: and playing in the SEC title game and losing. Who's

461
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Speaker 1: in the better position. The answer is Alabama. Kirby Smart's

462
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Speaker 1: exactly right. There are gonna be scenarios much more plentiful

463
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Speaker 1: in supply, by the way, where you're gonna benefit from

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Speaker 1: not playing the conference title game. I know it's happened before.

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Speaker 1: I know there's been a year with Bama. Actually there

466
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Speaker 1: was a year where they did not make the SEC

467
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Speaker 1: title game and they still made the playoff and they

468
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Speaker 1: won the whole thing. Yes, that has happened before I

469
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Speaker 1: ask you this, how fine was the needle that had

470
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Speaker 1: to be threaded for that to happen versus how frequently

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Speaker 1: it could happen in the future. So he's right about that,

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Speaker 1: And then the follow up, I think is also misguided.

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Speaker 1: The follow up is, okay, well, that means we got

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Speaker 1: to rework some things. How do we further incentivize going

475
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Speaker 1: to the conference title game, not just winning it, but

476
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Speaker 1: going to the conference title game? Is that the question?

477
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Speaker 1: Though I don't know that that's the question as much as

478
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Speaker 1: maybe the real question being what is the value in

479
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Speaker 1: conference championship games and the expanded playoff era? Now you

480
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Speaker 1: know how I feel about this. I hate the expanded

481
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Speaker 1: playoff so I don't like the question. But I'm telling you,

482
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Speaker 1: since you're dragging me into this new era, I'm gonna

483
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Speaker 1: ask if everything's on the table and we're not going

484
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Speaker 1: to value the things we used to value, well, why in.

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Speaker 2: The world are you even playing a conference title game.

486
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Speaker 1: Money is the obvious answer, but people can't say that

487
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Speaker 1: to your face, so they have to make up a reason.

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Speaker 1: But I'm asking you, you're gonna go play a conference

489
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Speaker 1: title game? Then in many cases both teams are gonna

490
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Speaker 1: make the playoff anyway, and yeah, four of them are.

491
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Speaker 2: Gonna have buys. But outside of that.

492
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Speaker 1: Like really, even some conference champs aren't gonna have first

493
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Speaker 1: round byes.

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Speaker 2: So you win it, you lose it. You're playing for seeding.

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Speaker 1: In a lot of cases, that's the way it's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: And I know that the retort should be, well, Josh,

497
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Speaker 1: you should play for pride. No, no, we should play

498
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Speaker 1: for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but that went out the door when some

500
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Speaker 2: of you started referring to.

501
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Speaker 1: Bowl games as meaningless because they didn't have playoff ramifications

502
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Speaker 1: on the line. Remember that, Yeah, it's like five minutes old.

503
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Speaker 1: Went out the door when some of you started calling

504
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Speaker 1: late season games meaningless because teams were out of the

505
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Speaker 1: playoff hunt. No, that ship sailed and you cut the

506
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Speaker 1: rope at the dock. Not all of you, but some

507
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Speaker 1: of you that would then come at me and say,

508
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Speaker 1: shame on you for suggesting there's less value in a

509
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Speaker 1: conference title game, no pride is on the line. Hmm okay,

510
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Speaker 1: well could you tell me that later tonight so I

511
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Speaker 1: don't have to take a sleeping pill.

512
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Speaker 2: Let's move on. Get a little worked up on that one.

513
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Speaker 1: Let me take a little chuggy chug of coffee here.

514
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 1: Drank way too much of this on the way home

515
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Speaker 1: last night, But we roll on. Scott hit us up

516
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Speaker 1: and he said, as a fan, what should I look

517
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Speaker 1: for in determining if a coach is building a great

518
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Speaker 1: program rather than just building towards one great team and

519
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Speaker 1: then a sharp decline. This is a good question. It's

520
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Speaker 1: the Michigan State question. So mel Tucker two years ago

521
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Speaker 1: at Michigan State had a great year. They were actually

522
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Speaker 1: in the playoff hunt. They were in the Big ten

523
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Speaker 1: championship hunt until really late in the year. Then they

524
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Speaker 1: were terrible last year. So Meltucker, as it turns out,

525
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Speaker 1: was not building a sustainable program. Well so far, the

526
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Speaker 1: evidence so far would suggest that he wasn't building a

527
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Speaker 1: sustainable program that was going to do that every year,

528
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Speaker 1: but rather he had one good team and then, as

529
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Speaker 1: it turns out, it was going to fall off a.

530
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Speaker 2: Cliff the next year.

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Speaker 1: So what do we look at Well, I'll tell you

532
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Speaker 1: what I remember about that Michigan State team, and I'll

533
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Speaker 1: tell you, Scott, what I always look at to gauge sustainability.

534
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Speaker 1: How often are we talking about specific players when we're

535
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Speaker 1: referencing a team versus how often are we talking about

536
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Speaker 1: position units because players move on, but the identity and

537
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Speaker 1: the philosophy behind building a position room that can sustain.

538
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Speaker 1: So like with Georgia, Scott's from Atlanta, by the way,

539
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Speaker 1: So as like with Georgia, they're losing guys every year,

540
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Speaker 1: Bama's lost guys for a while every year. You don't

541
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Speaker 1: think they're going to drop off a cliff though in fact,

542
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Speaker 1: you know they're not going to. And the reasons because

543
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Speaker 1: you know they recruit and they develop. Now we already

544
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Speaker 1: know that about those programs, but the ones that are

545
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Speaker 1: up and coming, so to speak, that's what I look at.

546
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Speaker 1: Brian Kelly is probably about to put LSU in this

547
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Speaker 1: position where guys are going to move on, But you're

548
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Speaker 1: looking at him and you're saying, yeah, they lost good

549
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Speaker 1: players to the draft in this given year. But think

550
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Speaker 1: about the room for that defensive line, think about the

551
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Speaker 1: room for that secondary and again that doesn't apply this

552
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: year because they had to go total portal for their

553
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Speaker 1: defensive backs. But once you've been there two, three or

554
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Speaker 1: four years and the entire program is your identity at

555
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 1: that point in your thumb print, that's what I look for.

556
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Speaker 1: I look for how often is your greatness attributed to

557
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Speaker 1: one or two players versus whether it's attributed to your depth. Also,

558
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Speaker 1: the other thing to look for, Scott is any given

559
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Speaker 1: year when you rotate, when your defensive front rotates, how

560
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Speaker 1: big is the drop off or how unsafe does your

561
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Speaker 1: coaching staff even consider upfront rotation defensively? That is a

562
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Speaker 1: sign that you know, once those frontline guys move on,

563
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Speaker 1: you may not have much in the cupboard behind them.

564
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Speaker 1: But good question, that's something to watch. I can assure

565
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Speaker 1: you this time of year, that's what we're doing. We're

566
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Speaker 1: doing inventories on rosters and what's coming back, and then

567
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Speaker 1: what have we seen from them, both unit wise and

568
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: individually up to this point. It is a very inexact science, though.

569
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: Cole from Tampa hit us up and asked, do we

570
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Speaker 1: not value the craziness of the two thousand and seven

571
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Speaker 1: season enough? Cole, I think it depends on whether you

572
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Speaker 1: were there.

573
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Speaker 2: It's a classic. You had to be their thing.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that if you're sixteen years old right

575
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Speaker 1: now you properly value two thousand and seven, because the

576
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: math indicates you weren't even old enough to know what

577
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Speaker 1: was going on. But for those of us who were

578
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Speaker 1: cognizant and aware of what we were seeing, I have

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Speaker 1: pulled up on my eye, Josh, right now in week seven,

580
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Speaker 1: so I guess this would be week eight. In week eight,

581
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Speaker 1: late in the year, relatively speaking, in two thousand and seven,

582
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Speaker 1: this was your top ten. Ohio State was number one.

583
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Speaker 1: You may think to yourself, Oh, this sounds normal. Yeah,

584
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Speaker 1: South Florida was number two, Boston College was number three.

585
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Speaker 1: Then you had LSU Oklahoma. South Carolina was number six,

586
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Speaker 1: Kentucky was number seven, Arizona State was at eight, and

587
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: West Virginia was at nine. In any one year, any

588
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Speaker 1: one of those teams being in the top ten is

589
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Speaker 1: a story. If I told you South Florida was going

590
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Speaker 1: to be in the top ten this year, that's a story.

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Speaker 2: Certainly. If I told you West Virginia is going to

592
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Speaker 2: be up there, that'd be a miracle. How about all

593
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Speaker 2: of them?

594
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Speaker 1: Boston College, South Florida, both South Carolina and Kentucky, Arizona

595
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: State's up there, West Virginia all in the top ten,

596
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Speaker 1: just in a random week eight. And then I cannot

597
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Speaker 1: in strong enough terms emphasize to U kiddos out there

598
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: who are brand new to basically life in college football.

599
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: I want you to imagine this. Okay, everyone, it thinks

600
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: it's in vogue now and it's cool to talk about

601
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: TV ratings even though they don't impact you. So if

602
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Speaker 1: you're one of those TV ratings snobs, let me paint

603
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: a picture for you. Your ESPN or I guess ABC at

604
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: the time, you have the rights to the BCS title

605
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: game and it's conference championship weekend, and you are you

606
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: are on pace to have West Virginia versus Missouri as

607
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Speaker 1: the national title game. We came that close to West

608
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Speaker 1: Virginia Missouri being the title game. So here's what happens.

609
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Speaker 1: Is the craziest thing. I remember how surreal this felt

610
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Speaker 1: even as it was happening. Oklahoma played Missouri in the

611
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Speaker 1: Big twelve title game and they beat them, So that

612
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Speaker 1: knocks Missouri out of the number two spot.

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Speaker 2: I think West.

614
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: Virginia as a three plus touchdown favorite loses to pit

615
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Speaker 1: thirteen to nine in the backyard brawl that knocks them

616
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Speaker 1: out of the national title game.

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Speaker 2: And guess who was waiting there.

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Speaker 1: Remember it's about brands, right, it's about ratings. ESPN goes

619
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Speaker 1: from having potentially West Virginia versus Missouri to having LSU

620
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Speaker 1: versus Ohio State fall in their lap. LSU had two losses, guys,

621
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Speaker 1: LSU lost their last regular season game in triple overtime.

622
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Speaker 2: By the way, that team ends.

623
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Speaker 1: Up playing for a national title and winning it in

624
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Speaker 1: New Orleans. LSU only wins titles in New Orleans.

625
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Speaker 2: It's wild. I'm just if.

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Speaker 1: You want to relive a year, go relive O seven.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that they've ever done a thirty for

628
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Speaker 1: thirty on it. If they did, it may supplant Pony

629
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Speaker 1: Excess as the best thirty for thirty that ESPN ever.

630
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Speaker 1: Did you talk about weekly now? Not once or twice

631
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Speaker 1: in the year Weekly being swerved all the way off

632
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: the cliff and down the ravine and into the Pacific

633
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Speaker 1: Ocean with just stuff that you would never expect, and

634
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Speaker 1: then it's all happening collectively. In baseball, they say base

635
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: hits are contagious hitting is contagious. It's like upsets were contagious,

636
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: and you were so unsure of yourself. Think about being

637
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 1: a gambler. You were so unsure of yourself. Like you,

638
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: nothing was taken for granted. It didn't matter if you

639
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: were favored by four or five touchdowns. Nothing was taken

640
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: for granted. That year you never knew what was coming.

641
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Speaker 1: Sort of like this, and with that, we're back the

642
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: Woodlands in Texas is checking in SETH to be specific, said,

643
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: can Sandford Stadium really be better than Kyle Field? If

644
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: you had to preface that Sandford had to return to

645
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: being a tough crowd when Kyle has never been in question,

646
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: regardless of on the field production, Our fans have always

647
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: shown up. I did not intend for this to become

648
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Speaker 1: what it became.

649
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: So innocently enough.

650
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Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, we were talking about Believe

651
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Speaker 1: it or Not and Walker shaming Georgia because Sandford Stadium

652
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: wasn't a top five game day environment, and I said,

653
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Speaker 1: and I'm right about this because I'm on the field

654
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: at these places every week. I said, You're right, Sandford

655
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Speaker 1: did not used to be a top five game day environment.

656
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Speaker 1: It's changed. And I laid out the reasons why it's changed.

657
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Speaker 1: It's got a lot to do with Kirby Smart. It's

658
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Speaker 1: not just winning, Yes, it matters that they're winning. It

659
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Speaker 1: is an attitude shift that happened, like the entire fan

660
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Speaker 1: base almost like they're clocking into work when they come

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Speaker 1: to Sandford Stadium. Now, I've been there in both times,

662
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Speaker 1: the quieter times and the more rabid times because they

663
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Speaker 1: were winning under Mark Richt, Sanford Stadium wasn't like this.

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Speaker 2: So that's what I said.

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Speaker 1: And I looked at some of the top five that

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Speaker 1: he sent me, and I pointed out, I think right now,

667
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Speaker 1: just pound for pound, Sandford's a better game day environment

668
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Speaker 1: than Kyle Field. I said the same thing about the Swamp.

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Speaker 1: I'm not bashing either one of them. They're both in

670
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Speaker 1: incredibly loud, incredibly intense. I am using that as a

671
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Speaker 1: barometer to try and explain to you what Sandford Stadium

672
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Speaker 1: is like on game day right now. Well, anyway that

673
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Speaker 1: became a you hate Texas, A and m you hate Florida,

674
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Speaker 1: or or maybe you had a more well reasoned reply.

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Speaker 2: Like Seth did, and he said, hey.

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Speaker 1: Man, shouldn't we point out that Kyle Field's always been electric.

677
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Speaker 1: Sounds like Georgia had to become a winner again before

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Speaker 1: they got.

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Speaker 2: Their act together. If you want to take that route,

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Speaker 2: take that route.

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Speaker 1: I'm not here to defend them or anything. I'm just

682
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Speaker 1: as a matter of fact stating that I get to

683
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Speaker 1: be on the sidelines at these places every week. So

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Speaker 1: I've got a pretty good read on it. And there

685
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Speaker 1: are not five better in the SEC than Sandford right now.

686
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Speaker 1: You could give any given order. Yeah, Tennessee's up there. Yeah,

687
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: LSU's up there. Like I Also, I'm not dumb. If

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Speaker 1: Billy Napier were to take Florida and be right there,

689
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Speaker 1: smack down in the middle of national title contention, this

690
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Speaker 1: year of the swamp would be out of its mind.

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Speaker 1: Winning absolutely has a lot to do with it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I no one has been a bigger national defender of

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Speaker 1: the Kyle Field environment than me. Okay, I have taken

694
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Speaker 1: criticism for what I've said about Kyle Field and the

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Speaker 1: Texas A and M fan base.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, no one's ever gonna.

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Speaker 1: Paint me in a corner being opposed to A and M,

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Speaker 1: or painting their game day atmosphere in anything other than

699
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Speaker 1: a very positive light. I wasn't painting anyone's in a

700
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Speaker 1: negative light. I was just overly emphasizing what George is like.

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Speaker 1: Now Kyle Field's incredible. Kyle Field's got a different I

702
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Speaker 1: will say this about Kyle Field. The culture, the vibe

703
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Speaker 1: is different than any place in college football. So yes,

704
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Speaker 1: it's loud, but noise can be noise. You could theoretically say, hey,

705
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Speaker 1: a decibel levels A decibel level.

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Speaker 2: Right, how are they making it?

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Speaker 1: And at Texas A and M they make it in

708
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Speaker 1: a little different way. Some of you call that cult behavior.

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Speaker 1: I just call it passion. And frankly, I don't really

710
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Speaker 1: care if it's a cult. As long as I'm friendly

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Speaker 1: with the cult, I don't really care. And I'm friendly

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Speaker 1: with Texas A and M. So they welcome me in

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Speaker 1: and they if they hand me a torch and they

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Speaker 1: hand me a pitchfork.

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Speaker 2: I'll turn on you, guys.

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Speaker 1: I will, especially if you're criticizing us hashtag US.

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Speaker 2: I hope you heard that. Billy Lucci.

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Speaker 1: Justin hit me up from Branford, Florida. He said, Hey,

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Speaker 1: what's the mood tracker for tornadoes this year? Are you

720
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: trending up or down? I've had a wonderful chase season.

721
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Speaker 1: I've seen three tornadoes in person. However, if you live

722
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Speaker 1: in the southeast, it's been really quiet. It's been weird.

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Speaker 1: You had more activity in January if you're in like

724
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Speaker 1: West central Georgia, than you have in April or May.

725
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Speaker 1: There's been a lot of action in the Texas Panhandle.

726
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Speaker 1: New Mexico has been a hotspot for chasing lately. Colorado,

727
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Speaker 1: I would imagine may light up. So it's just been

728
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: that kind of year and it's tough for me to

729
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: get all the way out there because we're doing something

730
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: every other day here on air. But you'll remember we

731
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Speaker 1: had some successful chases in Arkansas, saw one in Illinois,

732
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Speaker 1: and so I've had a good season, like three. You

733
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Speaker 1: told me I was going to see three tornadoes in

734
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Speaker 1: person in one spring chase season. I'm fine with that.

735
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Speaker 2: However, let's not just assume it's over. Moving on.

736
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Speaker 1: I always wonder is there anyone listening to the pod

737
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Speaker 1: for the first time, Cause if you are, you wonder

738
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Speaker 1: where where did that question come from? Well, I like

739
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: to chase storms in the spring. Those of you who

740
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Speaker 1: follow me on social know there's some other activities of

741
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: more questionable legality that I like to participate in. It

742
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: doesn't put anyone in harm's way. It's fine, But I

743
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: kind of dance around talking about it publicly, but I

744
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: put it out there on the socials. You watch that

745
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: Instagram story any given day at Lake Kick, Josh, you

746
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: never know.

747
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 2: What you'll see.

748
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Speaker 1: Jeff is checking in from Calhoun, Georgia. He said, if

749
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Speaker 1: you could know the result of any regular season game

750
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Speaker 1: to get the best glimpse of the season ahead, which

751
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: game would you pick? And he said, I cannot use

752
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Speaker 1: Ohio State Michigan. That's fine, Jeff. I wasn't gonna pick

753
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: Ohio State Michigan anyway, believe it or not. I would

754
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Speaker 1: go FSU Clemson. If you told me the outcome of

755
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: FSU Clemson that's week four, I think I would know

756
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Speaker 1: a quarter of the playoff picture.

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Speaker 2: Maybe.

758
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Speaker 1: So if you told me like Tigers by seventeen, I

759
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Speaker 1: don't think they have other big hurdles, especially if they're

760
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Speaker 1: that thorough against Florida State. I don't know what their

761
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: other big hurdles are, and so you're painting them into

762
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Speaker 1: the ACC Championship game already. Conversely, if Florida State were

763
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Speaker 1: to go up there in a Tiger stadium, and Death Valley,

764
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Speaker 1: and they were to win by double digits. Especially if

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Speaker 1: Florida State wins, they may be undefeated in conference play.

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Speaker 1: The line on that game right now is Clemson minus

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Speaker 1: two and a half. That is, by the way, with

768
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Speaker 1: home field baked in. So that's an odds maker telling you, hey,

769
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Speaker 1: we may even power rate Florida State just a smidge

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Speaker 1: above Clemson. That's one of them. I'll tell you another

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Speaker 1: one I would really appreciate a spoiler on. That's Penn

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Speaker 1: State Ohio State. You give me that one, and I

773
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Speaker 1: know a lot because then if you let me know

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Speaker 1: Penn State's gonna beat Ohio State as a ten and

775
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: a half point dog, no less, it doesn't matter to

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Speaker 1: me if Penn State lost to Michigan, or it may

777
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: not matter as much because at least I know they're

778
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Speaker 1: splitting those big two games. They're not gonna get swept.

779
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 1: And likewise, if you tell me Ohio State beats Penn State,

780
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Speaker 1: I am going to think to myself, that's the big hurdle.

781
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Speaker 1: I think they'll be undefeated at least in conference play,

782
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: undefeated when they play Michigan late in the year. So

783
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Speaker 1: I would love to know the outcome there. Really though,

784
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Speaker 1: if the upset were to happen, I think that's the

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Speaker 1: bigger story.

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Speaker 2: If the upset.

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Speaker 1: Happens, Number one, Penn State is in line to maybe

788
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Speaker 1: go to the Big Ten championship game.

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Speaker 2: Depending on the Michigan game, they're in the playoff picture.

790
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: But also if Ohio State lost to Penn State, they're

791
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Speaker 2: already a flawed team.

792
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: Well, their record has a flaw on it, a blemish

793
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: on it before that Michigan game, that could be tough.

794
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Speaker 1: The third one, LSU Alabama looks like CBS looks like

795
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Speaker 1: Big Brothers gonna make this the night game in the

796
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Speaker 1: SEC this year. By the way, those of you who

797
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: like night games, it looks like Bama's gonna get Texas

798
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: and LSU in Bryant Denny Stadium at night.

799
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Speaker 2: So there's that.

800
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Speaker 1: Man, how this one shakes out is another really big deal.

801
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 1: And remember, of course BAMA goes down there last year

802
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 1: they lose, LSU wins the division. If LSU, If Brian

803
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: Kelly walks into the SEC and starts off two to

804
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: zero against Nick Saban, and that is, by the way,

805
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: him doing what people said he couldn't do, and that's

806
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: beat Alabama beat Nick Saban, It's crazy what better players

807
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: will do for you. I think that'd be huge because

808
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Speaker 1: we already know. If you tell me the outcome of

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Speaker 1: that one is Bama losing, they probably have no more

810
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: margin for error in conference play. And likewise, if you

811
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Speaker 1: tell me Bama wins that game, well that means obviously

812
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: they were just good enough to do it. Then if

813
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: you told me the score and it was pretty emphatic,

814
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: I would wonder, Oh what I wonder if they got

815
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: that quarterback play figured out? I wonder if that secondary

816
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: is as good as I think it's going to be.

817
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: So I would like to know FSU Clemson. I would

818
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: like to know Penn State, Ohio State, and I certainly

819
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: would like to know LSU Alabama. If anyone knows anything

820
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: out there now, I promise I'll keep it to myself.

821
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Speaker 2: Just hit me up. You know how to get in

822
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Speaker 2: touch with me.

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Speaker 1: Next question, this is from John in League City, Texas.

824
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Speaker 1: He said, Hey, what's your breaking point? What will college

825
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: football have to do or become for you to say

826
00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: see ya? You just throw up the deuces, John, I

827
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Speaker 1: don't know exactly what it would look like. My answer is,

828
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Speaker 1: if it abandons its roots of Saturday. Now, I don't

829
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Speaker 1: know what that even means. I don't truthfully, I don't

830
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Speaker 1: see myself walking away.

831
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 2: From college football. We're a long long.

832
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 1: Way from that. Even with all the drama around the sport.

833
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: That stuff's relative, Like we are miles and miles away

834
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Speaker 1: from your boy here ever saying yeah, I think I'm

835
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: gonna go get a normal job. I'm out on college football.

836
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: And if I didn't do this for a living now,

837
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, even as a fan, we're a long

838
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: way away from this sport. Ever, being in a situation

839
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: where I say that, I told you guys when we

840
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: did the talk with Cole Kubrick, which I highly advise

841
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: you to listen to and let me hit time out here.

842
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: I know some of you are like me. I know

843
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: some of you have your shows you listen to, and

844
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: I appreciate you making this one of your shows. And

845
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: our research indicates you listen to this show to hear

846
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: what I have to say. And I don't take that

847
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: for granted. And there are shows where I do that. Well,

848
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: it's a solo host show, and I just care what

849
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: that person has to say on whatever it is. And

850
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: I know what your tendency is your tendency is when

851
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: that host brings a guest on, you skip over that episode.

852
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 1: I know because I do that, and so I'm trying

853
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: to tell you don't do that when I bring a

854
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: guest on this show. It is not going to be

855
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: a filler episode. You go listen to me and Cublic

856
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: go back and forth about an hour, fifteen, hour, twenty

857
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Speaker 1: and especially at certain parts there, I feel like that's

858
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: some of the best college football content you were ever

859
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: going to get in the month of May, maybe even beyond.

860
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 1: So that's a PSA. And check out his YouTube channel

861
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: while you're at it, Cube Show. It's really good stuff,

862
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: really good. My dad asked me the other day, Hey, WI,

863
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 1: which channel do you think would be the next one

864
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: to blow up? I think Cubux channel is going to

865
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: blow up really good content. It's a really good mixture

866
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: of great personality, intimate knowledge of x's and o's, and

867
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Speaker 1: behind the scene's access because he's on the road every

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Speaker 1: week talking to coaches every week.

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Speaker 2: You don't get that very many places.

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Speaker 1: Just letting you know some of these channels you are

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Speaker 1: and aren't subscribed to, that's one you should probably be

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Speaker 1: subscribed to. He's not paying me any money, so I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna stop that.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: What would it take for me to walk away from

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Speaker 1: the sport, John, I just I think if they were

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Speaker 1: to totally abandon regular season value, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: you can do that, you can lessen the value, which

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Speaker 1: an expanded playoff kind of does. But it's in their

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Speaker 1: best interest. It's in the right holder's best interests to

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Speaker 1: maintain and maximize the value of their regular season inventory.

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Speaker 1: And so even though I don't necessarily say I align

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Speaker 1: with these people, we do have mutual interests. Our mutual

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Speaker 1: interest is make sure the sport revolves around Saturdays in

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Speaker 1: the fall. Make sure that's what college football is known for.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you.

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Speaker 1: Enshrine and crystallize as much of the passion and the

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Speaker 1: tradition as you can. I would argue you could do

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Speaker 1: a better job of it then we're currently doing. But

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Speaker 1: at least we're doing a half decent job of it. John,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm walking away from college football. And

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Speaker 1: if I am, what's the alternative? What am I walking to?

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Speaker 1: What has more of what I claim to like than

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Speaker 1: college football? The answer is nothing.

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Speaker 2: So I'm here.

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Speaker 1: I'm here for the long run, and I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: guys being here too. Good Pie today a little bit

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Speaker 1: later than normal factors outside of our control, and those

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Speaker 1: are I was out of town. That's the factor, so

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. We'll be late kick Live tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to have an announcement on the Thursday night

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Speaker 1: Late Kick Live. The Pate State Speaker series rolls on.

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Speaker 1: We're just adding more and more. Told you we were

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Speaker 1: going to have a little delay, but we were eventually

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Speaker 1: going to get the ball rolling. Well it's rolling now,

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Speaker 1: it is rolling, and we will have a jam packed

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Speaker 1: June for you, April and ag Yes where we are

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Speaker 1: so check that out tomorrow night. Appreciate you guys. Do

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Speaker 1: one favor for me. Subscribe to this podcast feed the end. Otherwise,

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Speaker 1: just go live your life any which way you want to.

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Speaker 2: Just be nice to each other.

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Speaker 1: For Bradley, the associate for producer Jesse, for director Colin,

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh, babe.

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Speaker 2: Take care, have a great rest of your day, and

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Speaker 2: God bless