Speaker 1: You're listening to Comedy Central.
Speaker 2: My guest tonight is legendary tennis champion and entrepreneur Serena Williams.
Speaker 2: She's here to talk about her venture fund and being
Speaker 2: an executive producer of the hit film King Richard. Serena Williams,
Speaker 2: Welcome to The Daily Show.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: It's truly an honor to have you here, especially at
Speaker 2: a moment like this in life, you know, because it's
Speaker 2: not every day that I or anybody gets to talk
Speaker 2: to one of the greatest of all time in any aspect.
Speaker 4: You know, You've conquered.
Speaker 2: The tennis court, but now it seems like Serena is
Speaker 2: going to be conquering the business world in a really
Speaker 2: meaningful way. Serena Ventures, Congratulations. The last I heard you
Speaker 2: raised one hundred and eleven million for the venture capital firm.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes we did, and you know, I realized I've
Speaker 3: actually been investing for about nine years, and then I
Speaker 3: realized that, you know, the venture capital ecosystem really needs
Speaker 3: more inclusive people. Really, when I learned that less than
Speaker 3: two percent at the time of women got funding from
Speaker 3: all VC money, I just honestly I didn't believe that
Speaker 3: stat and so I thought it was necessary for me
Speaker 3: to enter in a legit way, and so I just
Speaker 3: kept building Serena Ventures for years, and now here we are,
Speaker 3: we're raising our first fun at one hundred and eleven million.
Speaker 2: It's a really powerful place to begin a journey because
Speaker 2: you know a lot of people, you know on the ground,
Speaker 2: I mean myself included. Many years ago, I didn't know
Speaker 2: what venture capital was. I didn't understand the importance of
Speaker 2: venture capital. I didn't understand that like that becomes the
Speaker 2: seed that essentially grows the tree that is the biggest
Speaker 2: companies that we see on every stock exchange, you know.
Speaker 2: And so if you can get people in on the
Speaker 2: ground there, you can change.
Speaker 4: Their lives forever. Why did you decide to jump into.
Speaker 2: A world that, I mean does not play nice, isn't
Speaker 2: like the friendliest environment, especially to women and then especially
Speaker 2: to women of color.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so for me it was really important just just that, like,
Speaker 3: it's on the ground floor where you want more diversity
Speaker 3: and where you want more people involved. And that's where
Speaker 3: if you're looking to create wealth or however you want
Speaker 3: to look at it, that's where it starts, you know,
Speaker 3: And it's no better way to start there. Also, I
Speaker 3: love technology. I have a natural love and just thing
Speaker 3: that I just love about technology, And I've always wanted
Speaker 3: to invest in these companies and always wanted to just
Speaker 3: kind of be a part of it, which hence my
Speaker 3: journey that started so long ago into into venture and
Speaker 3: then eventually when you invest in early stage. So we
Speaker 3: do early stage investing, and when you do that, you're
Speaker 3: really able to not only help how a company thinks
Speaker 3: and how company performs, but also the first hires of
Speaker 3: a company. So those first five, those first ten are
Speaker 3: so key. But if you really help a company shape
Speaker 3: how they hire, then it has a a better chance
Speaker 3: to succeed. But it also has a better chance. To
Speaker 3: think of inviting everyone to the table.
Speaker 2: One of the craziest things I saw, I mean everyone
Speaker 2: saw it, you responded to on Twitter, was the New
Speaker 2: York Times posting about you know, like they had an
Speaker 2: article about your venture capital firm and the money and everything,
Speaker 2: but then.
Speaker 4: They used your sister's picture. What you said was really powerful.
Speaker 2: But I wondered, from your point of view, like what
Speaker 2: was the emotion behind it? Like were you hurt, were
Speaker 2: you disappointed? Were you angry?
Speaker 3: Well, honestly, me playing tennis and a sport that has
Speaker 3: been predominantly you know, white, especially when I first started.
Speaker 3: You can't allow yourself to get too upset about those
Speaker 3: things and emotionally take that home. Especially if you're a
Speaker 3: mom or you have a family. It's it's definitely not
Speaker 3: something you want to be involved in. You definitely have
Speaker 3: to just you know, just understand, say something about it
Speaker 3: like I did, and let it go. For me, it
Speaker 3: was really just about letting people know that there's still
Speaker 3: This is why I started this fund, you know, because
Speaker 3: there's still space that needs to happen. There are things
Speaker 3: that need to happen that we need to grow upon,
Speaker 3: and so that was really important for me.
Speaker 2: I couldn't help feeling from your response that like that
Speaker 2: was a little bit of you know, your mom and
Speaker 2: dad coming through.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I haven't met them, but I'm one of the millions
Speaker 2: of people who watched the movie, and I feel like
Speaker 2: I've met your family.
Speaker 4: Because it's true though. That's how I felt, But thank
Speaker 4: you for that.
Speaker 2: It's it felt like, you know, the Williams family has
Speaker 2: this tenacious attitude. The Williams family goes like, hey, we're
Speaker 2: gonna address bs when we see it, but we're not
Speaker 2: gonna let it derail us from what we do.
Speaker 4: And is it weird to see Will Smith as your dad?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: It was?
Speaker 4: It definitely was.
Speaker 3: I've gotten so used to it now that now when
Speaker 3: I see him, I'm like, hey, dad. But in the
Speaker 3: beginning it was definitely weird because it just was just weird.
Speaker 3: But he did such a great job of just becoming
Speaker 3: Richard Williams to a point where it was it was
Speaker 3: actually like I was looking at my dad or really
Speaker 3: remembering those moments when when we were together and when
Speaker 3: we were younger, and it's really amazing how everything that
Speaker 3: he did in that film.
Speaker 2: It does feel like King Richard was just the origin
Speaker 2: story for you know, a burgeoning world, like you know,
Speaker 2: the sequels.
Speaker 4: Because when the movie.
Speaker 2: Ends, and I won't spoil it fore people who haven't
Speaker 2: seen it, all I want to do is see your
Speaker 2: movie now.
Speaker 4: I want to see your sister's movie. I want to
Speaker 4: see your family.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, what do you mean
Speaker 4: this is it?
Speaker 2: I want to wait too. I couldn't believe it was over.
Speaker 2: I thought it was just getting started. That journey is
Speaker 2: a really special one. I would love to know how
Speaker 2: your family managed to keep the love between and your
Speaker 2: sisters so intense even when there were so many moments
Speaker 2: for the two of you to have resentment towards each
Speaker 2: other because you don't you love each other, you support
Speaker 2: each other, and yet you compete against each other.
Speaker 3: And that's really important because again, like when you asked
Speaker 3: me about the New York Times piece, it was like, well,
Speaker 3: we can't allow that to affect our lives. And we
Speaker 3: grew up and we still are extremely spiritual people and
Speaker 3: really have a great grind, great base of faith, and
Speaker 3: we know that we have so much more to look
Speaker 3: forward to. And then we also know that at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, like tennis will lasts, you know,
Speaker 3: ten years, twenty years or whatever, but family lasts forever.
Speaker 3: And even when I'm playing my sister, I always think, Okay,
Speaker 3: this is just for this moment, this is just for
Speaker 3: this day, and even if you know we're emotional about
Speaker 3: it for a couple of days later, like she's always
Speaker 3: going to be my flesh and bud and nothing else
Speaker 3: is going to ever come in between that. And so
Speaker 3: it was it's really important for us to kind of
Speaker 3: feel that and just why so much just kind of
Speaker 3: roll off our shoulders and we just kind of just
Speaker 3: go with it.
Speaker 2: I have a few personal well, I have a few
Speaker 2: personal questions just as a fan from my set. So
Speaker 2: number one, so who's responsible.
Speaker 4: For your backhand? We didn't really get the onset in
Speaker 4: the movie.
Speaker 2: I mean, your mom claims the credit, your dad wants
Speaker 2: to claim the credit.
Speaker 4: Who made the Serena backhand?
Speaker 3: It was definitely a combination of both. But I spent
Speaker 3: a lot of time on the court with my mom
Speaker 3: growing up, when I was in that age, but when
Speaker 3: I got a little old her it was just I
Speaker 3: will spend more time with my dad. So it's definitely a.
Speaker 4: Mix, okay.
Speaker 2: And then with regards to your daughter, she has two
Speaker 2: parents who come from extremely different worlds.
Speaker 4: I mean, the world's are merging.
Speaker 2: Now, funny enough, but you know, you've got the tech dad,
Speaker 2: and then you've got like the superstar sports mom. What's
Speaker 2: the thing that she sort of gravitates towards more If
Speaker 2: you put like a computer in front of her or
Speaker 2: a tennis recort, what's the first thing she'd grab?
Speaker 3: Well, probably the computer because it has you know, all
Speaker 3: her little TV shows on it, and you know, the
Speaker 3: movie so definitely that. But you know, I'm just I'm
Speaker 3: a fan of tennis and I definitely root for her
Speaker 3: to play, but also I'm like, you know, it could
Speaker 3: be a lot of pressure, so definitely looking at her
Speaker 3: playing different sports, and you know, we haven't quite decided,
Speaker 3: and it's so it's so interesting now how parents I
Speaker 3: could say, I think think of it because it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, my parents had a whole plan and we're
Speaker 3: just like, well, you know, we'll see if she wants
Speaker 3: to do this or it's a completely different thing. And yeah,
Speaker 3: that's just I don't Yeah, I don't know. My dad
Speaker 3: my mom were really amazing, and personally, I don't know
Speaker 3: if I could have done it.
Speaker 2: I think you can do it because you're a product
Speaker 2: of theirs. I think you're doing it already. Serena Williams,
Speaker 2: thank you for joining me on the show. Congratulations on
Speaker 2: everything you've done venture capital, conquering the court, Congrats to
Speaker 2: your family, and thank you for being here with us.
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for having me.
Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Daily Show.
Speaker 2: My guest Tonight is an Academy Award nominated actor, producer,
Speaker 2: and musician.
Speaker 4: He goes by the name will Smith.
Speaker 2: And he's here to talk about his new film, King
Speaker 2: Richard and his highly anticipated memoir.
Speaker 4: Will Smith, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: Oh good to be here, man. I appreciate you.
Speaker 4: Do you enjoy watching that?
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. It's like Richard Williams.
Speaker 5: Man, you know, he is such a unique and powerful man.
Speaker 5: He is he is so many different things, and you
Speaker 5: love him or hate him, you know, but his his
Speaker 5: daughters and his family just they they revere this man,
Speaker 5: and that, you know, that was the thing that was
Speaker 5: so interesting to me, because he's been villified and villainized publicly,
Speaker 5: but the love in his family is spectacular.
Speaker 2: There is something to playing somebody in a way that
Speaker 2: doesn't provide a caricature of them but shows you their character.
Speaker 4: Yes, And that's what I.
Speaker 2: Really enjoyed about this film is. You know, we often
Speaker 2: hear about dads who are like, you know, ultra competitive.
Speaker 2: They want their kids to succeed at all costs of work.
Speaker 2: But I know, before I watched the movie, I didn't
Speaker 2: know the full extent of Richard Williams. I knew Venus
Speaker 2: and Serena. I was like, I know their dad, but
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, he's one of those dads. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but he wasn't one of those dads, is not.
Speaker 4: No, he was a dad who was trying to create excellence.
Speaker 4: But he did in a unique way.
Speaker 5: He did in a very unique way, and it was
Speaker 5: so so different from what I expected him to be.
Speaker 5: As you know, I have hundreds of hours of film
Speaker 5: and audio on him, so I was able to track
Speaker 5: him over, you know, almost two decades of interviews and
Speaker 5: things like that, and his book, and his entire family
Speaker 5: was involved with the process.
Speaker 1: And I asked Venus, I was like, what did what
Speaker 1: did he do?
Speaker 5: And she said it was almost like a Jedi mind trick, right,
Speaker 5: because he never pushed them to play tennis when they.
Speaker 1: Were in trouble.
Speaker 5: Their punishment was that they couldn't play tennis, and they
Speaker 5: would be itching and scratching and calling please, Daddy, let
Speaker 5: us play, please, let's practice. And he had figured out
Speaker 5: a way that you know, tennis was fourth or fifth
Speaker 5: on the list of their family priorities. They were using
Speaker 5: tennis to cultivate family and to cultivate.
Speaker 1: You know, human beings, to go into the world and serve.
Speaker 4: We've seen you.
Speaker 2: Play real people in films, you know, we've watched you
Speaker 2: on these journeys, you know, you know, whether it's our LEI,
Speaker 2: whether it's pursuit of happiness. You know, we we see
Speaker 2: you in inhibit people's lives. You see you inhibit who
Speaker 2: they are, and I wonder how much of them now
Speaker 2: sticks with you.
Speaker 4: Do you feel like you're part of the family now?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely, It's it's uh, you know.
Speaker 5: Serena walked on onto the set, you know, and I
Speaker 5: was full in character and she was like Dad, you know,
Speaker 5: but you know, it's it's you know, when you when
Speaker 5: you do these types of things that are about people's lives,
Speaker 5: and it wipes away every other desire other than wanting
Speaker 5: to please the family. If you make a movie about
Speaker 5: somebody's life and they don't like it, it is horrific.
Speaker 4: Happened to you?
Speaker 5: No, it's you know, I mean theoretical for these others.
Speaker 4: You mess it up, you mess it up.
Speaker 1: It's so bad for you.
Speaker 4: I'm Will Smith.
Speaker 5: I mean no, but I felt like, you know, I
Speaker 5: felt like that every time I go. You feel the weight,
Speaker 5: you feel the weight of it. It's like somebody's life
Speaker 5: and you're gonna, you know, commit it to screen. And
Speaker 5: Venus and Serena, they agreed to be executive producers, and
Speaker 5: they were with the project all the way through, but
Speaker 5: they were withholding whether or not they were gonna put
Speaker 5: their name on the film until after.
Speaker 4: They saw That's pressure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a lot of pressure.
Speaker 4: Ye, that's pressure.
Speaker 2: I feel like this story was amplified by your experience
Speaker 2: with your father, and I say that for sure having
Speaker 2: read your book, now you get what I'm saying. Congratulations,
Speaker 2: by the way, congratulations. Many people can live a really
Speaker 2: fantastic life. Many people can write a great book. There
Speaker 2: are a few people who I think can translate a
Speaker 2: fantastic life into a fantastic book.
Speaker 4: I think that's what you've done with Thank You Man for.
Speaker 2: Real, because it's it's it's raw, it's it's confusing too
Speaker 2: many because you say it in the book, Will Smith
Speaker 2: consists of two people, the Will Smith that we all
Speaker 2: know in love and then the Will Smith that that
Speaker 2: character was.
Speaker 1: Created to protect.
Speaker 2: And Yet what I find is people are reading excerpts
Speaker 2: from the book and they're like, Will Smith wanted to.
Speaker 4: Kill his father, Will Smith and Jada wanted to break
Speaker 4: up Smith. His kids were disappointed in him, And I'm like,
Speaker 4: are you reading the book? Are you. So let's let's
Speaker 4: start at the beginning.
Speaker 2: You know what it's like to be raised by a
Speaker 2: father who is not perfect but also pushes you towards perfection.
Speaker 2: When you were when you were portraying Richard Williams, were
Speaker 2: they aspects of you that were maybe even understanding your
Speaker 2: dad more? Was there compassion that was building that goes
Speaker 2: with that that disappointment that you sometimes felt in him.
Speaker 5: You know, I was working on the memoir while I
Speaker 5: was doing King Richard, and you know, so the picture
Speaker 5: of myself and my father and Richard Williams was all
Speaker 5: blending into you know, a process of growth and evolution
Speaker 5: and revelation. And big part of being able to understand
Speaker 5: Richard Williams was in my understanding.
Speaker 1: Of my father.
Speaker 5: You know that you know, post World War two generation
Speaker 5: black man, you know that knows how to do everything
Speaker 5: with their hands. You know, they got the toolbox and
Speaker 5: they can fix the fix. Yeah right, you know that
Speaker 5: was the thing with my father wanted us to be
Speaker 5: able to do things with our hands. Richard Williams was
Speaker 5: very similar in that way. And then the process for
Speaker 5: me of questioning my own parenting and developing and growing
Speaker 5: with my own parenting.
Speaker 1: What what I learned and grew.
Speaker 5: Into, which was a transformation for me with Richard Williams
Speaker 5: is Richard Williams.
Speaker 1: Was aligned with what his daughters wanted to do.
Speaker 5: He was following them where they wanted to go, and
Speaker 5: he was pushing them where they already wanted to go.
Speaker 5: And that was a very subtle but very critical difference
Speaker 5: that I was able to, you know, make that adjustment
Speaker 5: in in my parenting.
Speaker 2: The book Will, I would say, is one of the
Speaker 2: most anticipated and yet unexpected memoirs that has that has
Speaker 2: ever come out because for so long you've been in enigma.
Speaker 1: You know, man, you can't say down on TV.
Speaker 3: Crazy you reme real you've.
Speaker 4: Been You've been the guy who's like like it's it's
Speaker 4: Will Smith.
Speaker 2: But it's like we see you in the Black Soup,
Speaker 2: we see fish, you know, we see you running down
Speaker 2: the bridge with a shirt open.
Speaker 4: You run and slow moo the ship, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, Like we know that Will Smith. And then
Speaker 4: we see you at the premiere. It's you and Jada,
Speaker 4: you know, it's the kids and it's everything.
Speaker 2: It feels like there's been a like a literally a
Speaker 2: you know, a D and B C period in your life.
Speaker 4: You know, there's there's there's before Will's reveals himself.
Speaker 2: And there's everything we're living in now and and and
Speaker 2: the book feels like that, you know, it feels like
Speaker 2: you've gone, all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna take you
Speaker 2: behind the scenes, behind the scenes we've done I've never
Speaker 2: done with your life.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: A big part of my motivation was I felt like
Speaker 5: I have experienced enough and reflected enough and you know,
Speaker 5: suffered enough that my advice could be valuable, right, you know,
Speaker 5: So the the things that I now understand were you know,
Speaker 5: cultivated in the battlefield, you know, yeah, survival.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: When I you know, when it when when I'm talking
Speaker 5: about something, I'm not talking about theory. I'm talking about
Speaker 5: tested experience. So I feel like and and not that
Speaker 5: who I was wasn't true. It's what you know that
Speaker 5: that is true. It's just not the whole story. And
Speaker 5: so for me, I just wanted to take the filter
Speaker 5: off for.
Speaker 1: I guess two reasons. One, I thought it's.
Speaker 5: More helpful, you know, for somebody who wants to build
Speaker 5: their life, for somebody who wants to follow and do
Speaker 5: some of the.
Speaker 1: Things that I've done.
Speaker 5: It's more helpful if I tell you the truth right
Speaker 5: like that, you know, And then the other part of
Speaker 5: it is.
Speaker 1: I get to be more free.
Speaker 5: It's like a whole weight is lifted that I don't
Speaker 5: have to be perfect, that I'm allowed to be imperfect.
Speaker 5: I'm allowed to put on thirty pounds during the pandemic.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm allowed to do all of that. And
Speaker 1: you know, there's a certain.
Speaker 5: Emotional invincibility that is being cultivated that I just love.
Speaker 5: I love not being swayed by peopeople's opinions.
Speaker 2: When you talk in the book. I love that you've
Speaker 2: been careful to tell your stories. I know this from
Speaker 2: writing my book.
Speaker 4: I made sure. I was like, I talked to my mom.
Speaker 4: I was like, hey, are you cool you're writing us?
Speaker 2: And I was like, these are my stories or the
Speaker 2: stories that you can find in the press. I'm not
Speaker 2: telling anybody else's story in that.
Speaker 1: Way, which is really hard.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've been.
Speaker 2: Really good with that, respecting Jada in this and Jada's
Speaker 2: got red table talk, and then you've got do you
Speaker 2: guys ever fight about it that way? Do you ever
Speaker 2: go like, hey, you can't say that there or how
Speaker 2: can you say that there? Or do you ever feel
Speaker 2: like you have to negotiate where the boundary exists?
Speaker 1: So what I did was a.
Speaker 5: Two week book camp right before I finished the book,
Speaker 5: so I had written it, and I called everybody I
Speaker 5: talk about in the book and brought them down to
Speaker 5: Miami and for two weeks I read everybody every word
Speaker 5: that I said about them. And it was an extremely
Speaker 5: powerful therapy session going through this stuff. My mother and
Speaker 5: I had never talked about my father's abuse.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 5: And it was the first time had never talked about it.
Speaker 5: We had never not one time. And I'm fifty I
Speaker 5: was fifty two at the time. And I read her
Speaker 5: the chapter and that was the first time that we
Speaker 5: ever we ever discussed it, and she said go ahead,
Speaker 5: and yeah, she was you know, first of all, she
Speaker 5: was shocked. She couldn't believe that my young mind had processed.
Speaker 1: It in that way.
Speaker 5: But it was so cathartic and reading everything, and you know,
Speaker 5: I got through a couple of chapters with Jada, and
Speaker 5: you know, she said, I want you to tell your story.
Speaker 5: I don't want to dilute what your experience was. She said,
Speaker 5: of course, I was having a completely different experience. But
Speaker 5: she said, I want you to be free to tell
Speaker 5: your story.
Speaker 2: Relates to like everything that the media consumes that there's
Speaker 2: there's an element of like it's almost like a Piranha
Speaker 2: fish syndrome that happens online. You know, once there's blood
Speaker 2: in the water, they want to they want to at
Speaker 2: a thing until they know it.
Speaker 1: To the bone.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it will feel like people are trying to make
Speaker 2: it like, oh, Jada's coming for will you see what
Speaker 2: she said about They take her words out of context,
Speaker 2: they write headlines that don't match what the people are saying.
Speaker 4: I get angry because I watch it and then I'm like,
Speaker 4: that's not what you say. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: As a couple, you have to protect yourselves because you
Speaker 2: are a couple.
Speaker 4: Any any family unit does.
Speaker 2: But but is there a part of you that goes like,
Speaker 2: you know what, we're going to shut this down, We're
Speaker 2: not going to say anything. Or have you taken a
Speaker 2: different approach? Do you go like, no, this is what
Speaker 2: we're doing and how we're going to do it.
Speaker 5: So there there's there's nothing to really protect ourselves from.
Speaker 1: Right, It's like the malice, the maalade, none of that.
Speaker 1: You don't know that that only speaks to.
Speaker 5: Other people's level of consciousness and a lack of loving
Speaker 5: kindness on their part. That doesn't say anything about us. Right, So,
Speaker 5: our job as a couple and our job as individuals
Speaker 5: is to purify our hearts as much as we possibly can,
Speaker 5: to never do that to other human beings, to not
Speaker 5: add to the chaos, and to not add to the darkness,
Speaker 5: and to figure out as much as possible to.
Speaker 1: Only add.
Speaker 5: Love and hopefully understanding to the pot I embrace it
Speaker 5: as a part of my job in this world to
Speaker 5: provide whatever medicine, whatever elixir I possibly can, and not
Speaker 5: even thinking about that person as somehow beneath me. No,
Speaker 5: you'll see in these pages I got some purifying to do.
Speaker 4: Myself, all right before I let you go. Yeah, this
Speaker 4: is a book.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's a book.
Speaker 4: A book means a movie's coming oooh. And that's how
Speaker 4: it works.
Speaker 1: That's how it works.
Speaker 4: You make a good book a movie where hold on,
Speaker 4: That's how it is. It's always worked. That means somebody
Speaker 4: has to play Will in the movie.
Speaker 1: Yes, who's playing Will? If you're willing to get a fade,
Speaker 1: it's you don't tell me Will Smith. If you're willing
Speaker 1: to cut it into a fold where it's pretty right now.
Speaker 4: I've already got some of the ears. You can't see
Speaker 4: it behind the froe Man's playing with my emotions somewhere
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