WEBVTT - I Am All In…Again: Hello Jess: Season 2, E5 “Nick & Nora/Sid & Nancy” 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:04.080 I am all in again. 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:17.279 Oh that's just you. H. 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:22.320 I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast. 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:25.360 Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast, one 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:29.840 of them productions. iHeartRadio Media. iHeart Podcast, Nick and Norris, 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:34.120 Sid and Nancy. Season two, Episode five, special guest Adam 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:38.720 Wiley Air Day, October thirty, two thousand and one. Adam welcome, 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:40.239 How are you hey? 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:42.600 I'm well. How are you look? I did this for 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:43.640 you and you're. 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:46.080 A fantastic Yeah, I see it. 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:46.360 Man. 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:48.479 You look like you got a Walmart hat on. There 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:49.919 you go nice, There we go. 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:51.680 Now we're good. Now we're hem. 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:54.760 Adam's known for his role in Picket Fences, The Swan Princess, 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:58.560 the Broadway play Into the Woods, in which was actually 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.800 incorporated into the script. We will tell you about that later. 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:07.200 We see Adam first in season two, episode nine, Runaway 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:11.440 little Boy, as Brad Langford, a student at Chilton who 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:15.240 is absolutely terrified of Paris. So we know that his 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:19.880 character is mentally healthy. You were going to We're going 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:23.200 to talk about all about you, but first let's recap 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:28.000 this episode. Luke takes in his wild seventeen year old 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:32.399 nephew Jess, ignoring laws well intentioned advice, and Rory is 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:35.840 drawn to the new guy in Town, directed by the 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:42.440 Great Michael Cattleman and written by the Great Amy Sherman Palladino. 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:46.600 Jess is in town. Adam Luke gets called from his 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:49.440 sister Liz and her son Jess is going to stay 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:52.960 with Luke, so Luke puts Jess on the floor in 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:55.160 a blow up raft next to his bed. Luke has 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:58.520 a hard time managing Jeff Jess, to say the least, 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:03.560 and his antics around town are many. Most likely with 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:08.440 push from Laurel I, Luke eventually takes charge of Jess 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:12.440 and and set some boundaries for all of his wrongdoings. 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:14.560 What's your first impression of Jess? 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:16.960 I mean, my first impression of Jess is that he's 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:20.079 a troubled kid. I think as soon as he comes 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:22.480 off that bus, you feel the energy that he's been 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:26.120 tossed around, that he doesn't want to be there, and 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.000 that he's just you know, this is this is just 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:32.120 his life now, this is another day, and he's angry. 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:35.799 He's angry at the world and feels like he's been 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:38.800 his own parent for so long that that's the just 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:41.480 the way it is, there is no structure. He is 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.800 the structure. He hates it, right and he hates everyone 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:45.359 because of it. 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:49.680 Right, Well, right out of the gate, you see that, 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:54.880 you know Luke and Jess. Is there chemistry right away? 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:57.080 What do you think ken feeling getting? What do we 0:02:57.080 --> 0:02:58.320 get in between Luke and Jess? 0:02:58.600 --> 0:02:59.880 You like it? 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:01.760 Here's the thing I think with Luke and Jess, you 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:06.200 can tell they're related, right. The energies are so similar 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:11.200 with the two characters, you definitely know that they are family. 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:16.520 I think I think Luke is excited for the opportunity. 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:18.160 I don't think Luke knows how to handle it, and 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.560 I think that's pretty obvious. I think it's obvious from 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.680 the cold open that Luke doesn't know how to handle children. 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:25.760 And that just I mean. 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:30.120 That may with with the just the whole interaction with 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:33.359 with the with the Scout troop, you can see that, 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:35.800 you know, and it's just and maybe that's because he 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:39.680 doesn't like Taylor, but that's that's a whole, that's a 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:41.760 whole nother like can of worms, and you. 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:45.120 Got to think and the whole, you know, hierarchy of 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:49.560 the Danes family. Luke is a successful one. He's absolutely, 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:51.680 he's like the one that went off and you know, 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:55.960 created a huge business and he's super successful. So I 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:58.840 mean if if you know he's got the diner, he 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:01.480 works his butt off, he's a successful one. 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:02.680 Absolutely. 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:06.440 Imagine what a sister's like, because just seeing Luke at 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:10.800 the Pinnacle and Jess getting off the bus, it's like, whoa. 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:15.960 There's a few panicked phone calls by Luke's sister too, right, 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:20.240 and so that causes a lot of alarm, going ooh, 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:23.599 if this is what Jess has had to grow up with. 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:28.440 He's always in chaos, and so he's got to find 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:30.520 some kind of calm, which you know he turns to 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:32.880 reading and the big one. 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:34.800 Magic mm hmmmm hm. 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:38.640 Just great. I don't know why, but I'm a big fan. 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:43.239 I loved this. I loved I love the Rory's line 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.719 if you ever doing a if you ever do another 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.679 magic trick again and pull something out of an area 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:50.600 that I don't want you to, I'll never speak to you. 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:54.200 I guess it's like stop with the stick. You know, 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.120 it's not that you're not impressing me. 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:58.479 Yeah, I think I think my favorite line in the 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:05.480 entire episode, though, is is Lorelai talking to Luke and saying, 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:08.200 you want to get him something inflatable, get him up, 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:09.040 get him up, blonde. 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:15.440 I was dying. Oh good. 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.800 That's like he has some good equips in that one, 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:21.200 some just good one liners. 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:27.440 So you know, and Milo couldn't be more opposite to 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.880 this character is the amazing part about it. I mean, 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:34.200 he's just you know, he came on set and just 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:38.960 ingratiated himself right away with everybody, never acted like, you know, 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.720 he was the man or that you know, he he 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:45.520 didn't try to. I mean, he understood that he was 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:50.760 coming into a situation that was established. He had respect, 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:53.080 so and we like that. 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:57.720 I never got to work with him, unfortunately, but I 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.760 feel like we've done this for a very long long time. 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:04.919 Uh huh yeah, well maybe one day, just circling. Maybe 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:06.600 one day, maybe one day. 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.200 Maybe I'll get to push him into a lake. 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:11.039 And I'm yes, and I'm very proud of work we 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:14.520 did together. We did some iconic work together, the lake push, 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:17.560 you know, the relationship there. I really thought that relationship 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:21.440 elevated the show somewhat because now we see Luke in 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:26.120 a different type of situation. We'ren't expecting to see it 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:28.599 really is, I mean, and I think the fans really 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:30.880 receive received it very very well. 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:33.040 Mm hmmm. I would agree. 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:36.560 Again, it's like the writing. He got to do that writing, 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:40.520 Like I always comment on how lucky I feel to 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:42.640 be able to do that writing and be in the 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:47.960 imagine this. So this is a starm the just rolls 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:51.680 of star making role right an anybody who's lucky enough 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:55.080 to get that role. It's so well written right away, 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:58.680 right off the bat. It's like it's like James Dean 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:02.240 and Rebel Out cause it's it's all of those great 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:06.400 care it's it's it's Brando. It's it's right in the 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:10.200 uh in on the waterfront, or or there was a 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:13.040 movie he did, a motorcycle movie he did before called 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:14.920 the what was it? What was the Brando film he 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:17.400 did when the early Brando films. Yeah, I don't know, 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:21.480 Motorcycle Leader. What was it called? Anyway, But it's that 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.760 kind of a role where it's just like it's it's incendiary. 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.320 It just it hits like a bomb and it's like boom, 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:31.480 this guy has arrived. This actor has arrived in this role. 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:35.520 That is so far afield from what the Wild One? 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:39.400 The wild One? Yes, right, and that's it. That's the perfect, perfect, 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:42.760 perfect description. Yeah, and it just it just you know, 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.400 a bomb detonates and star stars hollow. 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:49.920 Oh right, but what's it going to do. 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.520 It's gonna scramble everybody's eggs. 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:54.600 Yeah, I mean he's looking for a night out and 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:58.000 it stars hollow. There's there's that line that that Rory 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:00.680 says that even the twenty four hour can nvenience store 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:05.120 closed at nine, which is also such a such a 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:08.400 great line. But if you also look at Luke through 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:11.720 the relationship of Jess, you know, at first he's like 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:14.840 he can handle himself. I mean, he's not a he's 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.080 not a baby, he's not a child. And then he 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.040 realizes immediately, oh he is a child. Oh he does 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.880 need structure. Oh I can do this. I can figure 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:27.960 it out. And it does force Luke to kind of go, Okay, 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.240 I'm a parent, now I gotta I gotta do this. 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:35.160 And it's really kind of awesome to not only see 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:38.160 the structure happen, but to see it work immediately. 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:41.679 It just works, and it's so good to see that. 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:43.199 I think it's good. I think this. 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:47.520 Relationship in particular, and this move by Jess is great 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:48.679 for both characters. 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:52.760 Oh made me very sad, you know, made me very sad. 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:55.200 You know, this kid has so much potential. 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:57.240 Absolutely, he's smart. 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:00.439 It's gonna take years. It's gonna take years for him 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.720 to get out of this. It's not just a quick fix. 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:06.760 It's not just Luke, you know, tough loving him into 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:11.080 a discipline, into a new dawn and a new realization 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.880 his eyes open in six months. Now, this is years. 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:18.840 This is yeah, totally, this is years of you know whatever, abuse, 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:22.120 bad parenting, and it's gonna take it's going to take 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:23.520 that much time for him to come out of it. 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:25.440 And it just it just breaks my heart to see it. 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:27.000 And I think that's really the point. 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:27.720 Absolutely. 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.760 I love the fact how he plays it like he's 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:34.559 not aware of it, where it's just a super confidence. 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:38.760 Yeah, And I think that does make him aware of it. 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:43.120 I actually think that that is the bravado he has 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:46.480 to have to survive. He's in pure survival mode at 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:49.160 that point and he knows nothing else. That's how he's 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:53.120 parenting himself is by being overconfident. So I actually do 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.320 think he is aware of it. I think that that's 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:58.880 the way he's learned to cope with himself. 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:01.640 He hates he hates the situation. 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.439 You know, it's a big, big changes everything for Laurel 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:07.920 I too, because the alarm bells are going off inside her. 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.160 It's like, boy, and how close is she gonna let 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:14.960 him near her daughter, who's like, you know, this perfect 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.040 China doll who's going off to Harvard or yet you 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:18.959 know what I'm saying. 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:20.480 And the influence starts. 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:23.360 Oh man, oh man, that's that's when you're begin the work. 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:27.800 All right, Let's let's go to the family dinner. Okay. 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:31.560 That that Laurel I invites everybody over for dinner to 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:32.040 meet Jess. 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:33.120 What a nice quart? 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:36.040 What what? What an exceptionally nice thing? And he is 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.920 so very nice. He's so rude to Laurel I. 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:42.280 He is, and he just wants to bail. Yeah, he 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:44.040 just wants to bail. He's like, I'm grabbing a beer 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:45.040 him out right. 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.960 So Rory just meets Jess and we immediately see they 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:51.520 have chemistry. Right, we learned he likes books. We see 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:53.719 the look on Rory's face and I think it's a. 0:10:53.679 --> 0:11:01.200 Collective uh oh in the audience, right, does not appreciate 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:06.280 the help and tells Laurel ies she should she wouldn't 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:10.360 give the best advice because she was pregnant at sixteen. 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:11.080 That was harsh. 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:17.920 That was that comment was harsh. It was harsh when 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.040 I when I actually heard it, I was like, Oh, 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:21.040 we're going to talk about that. 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:25.760 Oh and no, wonder they're fighting. 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:31.160 Let's let's stick into this, Okay. Yes, tell me, Adam, 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:37.360 do you think Laurel is overstepping with Jess or is 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:38.480 she helping Luke? 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:40.720 Helping Luke? 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:48.240 Because if you, especially because of that interaction in the 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.520 very beginning in that cold open with the with the 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:54.960 Scout troupe, I really think that she is Like, this 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:57.680 guy's clueless and he needs all the help he can get. 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:03.360 You know, I've been a mother for obviously. 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:08.480 Sixteen years or whatever it is, and I can really 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:09.520 help this guy. 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:10.600 And he's a good dude. 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:15.200 He's just he's a little clumsy in how he deals 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:17.520 with people. And I can help. You know, I've got 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:18.920 I've got a good demeanor. I know how to deal 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:20.880 with with kids. I know how to deal with actually 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:22.160 troubled and rebellous kids. 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.760 Why is he so defensive? Why would he say that 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:25.120 to her? 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.920 Why would Luke say that to her? Yeah, you're pregnant 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:28.440 at sixteen? 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.280 What the hell do you know? I mean, what a blow? 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:32.640 What tell me? Why say that? 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.720 Hereious, here's why I think you'd say that. And obviously 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:37.640 you know this character inside and out. I have no 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:40.480 idea why you think you'd say that. But from an 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:46.440 audience point of view, Luke has proven, especially thus far 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:50.480 in the show, to not be good with his emotions. 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:55.000 And when, in my experience, when people aren't wonderful with 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:58.520 their emotions, the first thing when they feel threatened. 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:01.360 Is to bite. So he tries to bite his way 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:02.480 out of the situation. 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:04.520 It's a deep insecurity one. 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:06.720 Hundred percent, And I feel he tries to bite his 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:10.280 way out of the situation and it comes across hurting 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.520 somebody that he really cares about. 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:15.440 Right, And that's tough, That's really tough. 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.640 She he interprets like, she doesn't have confidence in me. 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:23.800 She doesn't think I'm smart enough or capable enough to 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:25.840 deal with the situation. So she feels she has to 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.320 intervene and overstep without talking to me first. 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:30.840 Right, one hundred percent? One hundred percent? Which is is 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:32.600 that the right way to handle it. No, I think 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:35.280 it should have been a very I think it should 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:36.840 have been a plan for sure. 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:43.240 Do you think he's moving the goalpost to suit his insecurities? Right? 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:43.920 You know what I mean? 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:46.439 I got it? I got it. Why are you doing that? 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:49.400 You know? I appreciate you doing this. I didn't really 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:49.760 need it. 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:53.319 He'll be fine, He's okay, right, Okay, you're gonna tell 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:55.120 me what to do. Now, I'm gonna now I'm gonna 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.600 come at you. Oh I'm really sorry for coming at you. 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:00.760 It does seem like he values her opinion, right, and 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:02.240 he's quick to course that right. 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:05.520 Yeah, of course he cares about her a lot at 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:05.760 the end. 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:07.679 So this kind of back and forth, right, this kind 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:10.040 of back and forth, it's good for a relationship. 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:11.760 What do you think? What do you think? 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:16.920 I think with I think especially Lorelei and Luke's back 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:22.080 and forth, they have such a good chemistry. The quips 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:27.000 to be able to humble people, especially people you really 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:29.400 care about, I think are a good thing. If you 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:31.920 have somebody in your life that doesn't challenge you and 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:34.280 help you grow, then what are you doing with that person? 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:35.760 That's how I feel personally. 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:40.200 Yeah, you nailed it. I agree hundred percent. You think 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.440 Laurel I was right. I think Laurel has got really 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:46.640 good instincts. Yes, and it's really easy to see that 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:53.760 character Jess and go oh oh. 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:56.400 Totally totally. It's red Flag City, like, there's no there's 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:57.520 no tub about it. 0:14:57.760 --> 0:14:58.720 It's obvious. 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:03.280 Man, yeah, sure, crazy. 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:14.200 All right, let's get into Rory Jess. We immediately see 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.360 their chemistry with the books. The writers know what they're 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.640 doing bringing in Jess to break apart the Dean and 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:25.400 Rory relationship. Do we like what they are doing? Do 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:29.440 we want Dean to go? Do we want Jess to 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.520 step in? Now? How do you feel? 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:35.400 I think that's an audience member to audience member question, 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.040 because this is a huge question. 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:39.840 All right, let's get them all on the phone, guys, 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:41.440 let's get all the fans on the phone right now. 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:43.360 Let's ask one at a time. Here we go, Yes, 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:45.480 first caller, you're on. 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:52.240 In my personal opinion, no, I'm not rooting for her 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:56.480 to explore a wild side with Jess. 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.760 What are the chances of success with Jess in your opinion? 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:00.600 Oh? 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:05.200 Man, right now? Chances negative four, negative five. 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:07.240 I think it's pretty slim. 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:11.440 To none that Rory is going to be some incredibly 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:16.160 good influence on Rory. I think it's so much more 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:20.040 likely that Jess is going to be the worst influence 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:21.080 Rory can have. 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.320 Yeah, but he's literate. He reads books. 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:29.080 Great, awesome, so many people who read books. If he 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:31.120 can read a book, then he can read a book 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:34.440 to understand. Hey, man, maybe I need therapy and. 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.560 Not bite everybody's head off because my situation sucks. 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:38.720 Right? 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:39.520 Read that well? 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:42.640 I mean, at seventeen, you know who's introspective? At seventeen, 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.680 you know nobody nobody, no, no. 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:47.400 Not even introspectives are introspective. 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:50.160 They certainly are. They think they are, but they're not. 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:53.760 Everybody thinks they are. At seventeen, we had it made. 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:56.480 We were in control of life. 0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:00.720 So how was that Ginsburg Owl? 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:01.400 Yeah? 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:06.240 Great? The masterpiece of the beat generation. M boy, I'll 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:11.280 tell you that's uh. That's the one book you don't 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:13.480 want your daughter reading if. 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:18.000 She had it to r That's fair, It's very fair. 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:22.760 I remember when I was fifteen, my older sister gave 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:25.320 me a book and my mom was like, you really 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:27.680 don't want to read that to you? You don't want 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.199 to do that and it was. It was a Season 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:35.440 in Hell and a very good translation of it, Rambo's 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:39.400 The Season in Hell, and it blew my mind. Some 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:44.480 things should not be read until you're of age, right, yeah, absolutely, 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:48.000 But the impact books can make on the young mind 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:49.640 is it's extraordinary. 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:54.840 Books are the biggest influence that I think one can have, 0:17:55.400 --> 0:18:00.480 and that's mainly because you can you say your own 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:02.960 reality inside your head. 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:06.560 Of what that means exactly. 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:12.359 The imagination is engaged. You build your future inside your head. 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:13.040 Totally. 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:15.560 I don't know how kids are doing it today by 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.800 looking at the screen. TikTok, that's it, I think, right, 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:22.639 I mean, where's the imagination? Where? Where? Where are the 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:26.720 worlds that you're creating inside your head? I don't know that. Well, 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:29.399 we can get that's that's another podcast. 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:30.280 Totally. 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:32.399 I think the only world you can create inside your 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:34.919 head with a digital age and a digital generation is 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:37.680 how do I want to come across in these videos? 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:40.200 And I think there's some very creative people that are 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:43.840 editing inside their head going on there we goicklick click 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:46.680 click click click, and that's how they think now because 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:49.439 there's no words to read, you know, how do I 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:49.679 do this? 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:52.720 In under a minute. And there there, there there you. 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:55.919 Have right, right, But I, but I The thing that 0:18:56.160 --> 0:19:00.240 is so romantic to me and so intriguing hooks is 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:04.199 that there's this intellectual connection between Rory and Jess. That 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:05.160 she doesn't have a Dean. 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:08.840 That's true. That's where Dean is from a small town 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:10.679 and he is a small town minded. 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:16.800 So so you know, now we've got this art is involved. Now, 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:22.159 art is going to take over now and you know, 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:26.879 aesthetics are at play, so interesting, interesting dynamic. All right, 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:31.480 Rory in Paris Chilton, Wow, the conflict is real. 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:32.600 Yeah. 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:34.800 Paris is the editor of the school paper, The Franklin, 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:36.879 does everything in her power to punish Rory because she 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:40.520 is holding a grudge against her from her date with Tristan, 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:45.240 her quote unquote imaginary date with T. PJ. Harvey. She's 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:50.600 still harping on this and it never happened. Paris tells 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:54.720 Rory the wrong meeting time for the first meeting of 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:59.880 The Franklin that year and gives her story accoun but Rory, 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:04.680 Rory knocks it out of the park right what she does, 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:08.639 and then Paris intentionally assigns Rory an uncomfortable piece about 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:15.160 Max Medina, and that's just we have to concede. Paris 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:16.840 is an evil genius, right. 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:19.679 Listen, Paris is my is one of my favorite characters 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:21.960 in the entire show. And I've said this for a 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:28.439 very long time. I think that she is a gem 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:31.840 of a human when she allows herself to be. 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:35.560 So I do. I do agree with you. She's she's 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:37.200 absolutely an evil genius. 0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:41.600 So we see that she's going to force her to 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:46.520 talk to mister Medina about her piece. That's it's very awkward, 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:48.600 you know, and I love how it was handled, and 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:51.560 I love that they both confess to each other. I 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:53.920 wish you I wanted to be your stepdad and I 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:55.560 wish you were going to be my stepdad. 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:58.000 And that was very so cute that she goes off 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:01.960 the record to do that. Yes, pauses the recorder and 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:04.639 it's like, I just want you to know. Can we 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:09.800 just also stay that Like you can really see Laura 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:14.000 Lai in Rory all the time and kind of vice versa. 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:17.159 You can understand exactly why they are two peas in 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:20.960 a pod. They both have the same tendencies and they 0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:25.400 both have such great hearts, and you really see it there. 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:26.320 It's such a good moment. 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:29.680 You're right, But but Rory has that softer candy shell. 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:35.640 Yeah that's true now because she wasn't raised with Laurie's parents, right. 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:39.200