1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, we are back with another edition of the 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Falcon's Audible, presented by AT and T. Yes, that's right, 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: we are back. That means it is football season time. 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: It is training camp has officially opened up. We are 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: call it fifty to one hundred yards away from all 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: the guys filing into the complex here and they are 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: ready to strap on the pads. Or actually they don't 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: strap on the pad as much anymore, do they not 9 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: as much as we used to. Anyway, we'll get into 10 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: all that. Thanks so much for joining us again. We 11 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: had to take a little bit of a break because 12 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: there wasn't much fall going on, but now there is. 13 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: So here is the quick agenda for today what we're 14 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: gonna be covering, and then I will open it up 15 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: to my fellas what we are most excited to see 16 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: about this training camp. Sometimes training camp is just kind 17 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: of another one of those things. But this year is 18 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: is a lot more important for Atlanta because there are 19 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: so many different position battles for this team to take 20 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: the next step. The quarterbacks speaking up, position battles big 21 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: one here. Matt Ryan has been the fixture at this 22 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: position for this organization for so long. He's obviously moved on, 23 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: So we going to have a new face of the franchise, 24 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: if you will. How about the importance of veterans. As 25 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: I talked about, Matt Ryan is gone, so who is 26 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: going to fill the void? Which veterans are going to 27 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: step up and help lead this team of primarily younger players. 28 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: And then finally, I'll have the guys talk about some 29 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: of their favorite training camp memories because training camp has 30 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: changed a whole lot in the last what do we 31 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 1: call it, twenty five thirty years, Dave, So we're gonna 32 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: talk about some of our I know, there's there's kind 33 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: of a delta. It's kind of a delta here in years. Right, 34 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: all right, in case you forgot, I'm Derek Rackley. This 35 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: is Dave Archer and DJ Shockley, three former Falcons here, 36 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about all things Falcons. So, Dave, 37 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with you just quick reactions as we 38 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: open up training camp. What are some of the things 39 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a position battle, just what are 40 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: you most excited to see this training camp out of 41 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcon. Well, first of all, it's just footballs back, right, Yeah, 42 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: that's the number one that's the number one excitement level. 43 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: But number two for me, very very close. Number two 44 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: would all be all the influx of a bunch of 45 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: young guys that I have to think to have a 46 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: chance to make a difference, both on the offense even 47 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: defensive side. So I think the excitement of the new 48 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: flocks of guys in and maybe something rolled or maybe 49 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: some of them are young, but those new guys coming 50 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: and changing the face of the team. Yeah, definitely a 51 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: lot of new talent in the building and competing out 52 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: on the field and looking to earn a position and 53 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: help this team take the next step. DJ, what about you? 54 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: What are you most excited to see this training? Can 55 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: you know? I'll be remissed to say the same thing 56 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: that Arch mentioned about just football being back. I mean, 57 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: it's the number one sport. Everybody loves to watch it. 58 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: Everybody looks forward to turn on your TV and watch it. 59 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 1: It's gonna be so many fans out here at camp. 60 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: I mean, just when you walk out, you smell it, 61 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: you know, you know how I can't be your first 62 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: walk out you smell that grass that do the fans 63 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: get to see here to come out here. So I'm 64 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: glad football's back. But for me, I think a close 65 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: second would be our year two guys. I want to 66 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: see how big of a jump the year two guys 67 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: I saw pitch last year, you know, make a jump. 68 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: How big of a jump can he be? You know 69 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: what I mean? You know guys like Richie, Grant, Mayfield, 70 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: I mean Darby, you know, we didn't see much of 71 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: them and last year. Can some of those guys have 72 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: a huge impact on this team going into you know, 73 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: this new sea and how much of an impact they'll make. 74 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: That's a great point because generally first year players, we 75 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: were all there at one time. There's so many things 76 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: going on. Yeah, you think you got to figure it 77 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: out when you're in college, when you're at the University 78 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: of Georgia and you're the BMOC, the big man on campus. 79 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: But then you come to the NFL and they start 80 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,839 Speaker 1: throwing all this playbook at you, especially you two guys 81 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: as quarterbacks. And then not only the playbook, but then 82 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: you got to go do it out in the field. 83 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: And these guys are flying around the fastest guys you've 84 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: ever seen in your athletic career. So things start to 85 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: slow down a little bit or at least you hope 86 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: so in year two. So it's a great point. You 87 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 1: know what. I talked a little bit about Matt Ryan, 88 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about the veterans later on in 89 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: this podcast. But if you go around the NFL, guys, 90 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: you can generally take a pick and find one guy 91 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: that's the face of your franchise, right and Matt Ryan 92 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: has been that guy basically ever since he put on 93 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: this jersey through he's no longer here. So who is 94 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: the face of the franchise? That's kind of what I'm 95 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: excited to see. Who is ready to step up and 96 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: say maybe it's not a quarterback, maybe it is a quarterback, 97 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: but say I'm going to be the leader of this team. 98 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put guys on my back and I'm going 99 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: to show them the way that it needs to be 100 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: done on the football field, and I'm gonna help turn 101 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: this organization around and get us back into the playoffs, 102 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: get us competing for Super Bowls. But it's gonna take 103 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: that's that's one unique personality, as you guys know, to 104 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: come into an NFL locker room and say, guys, get 105 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: all my shoulders. You know what I'm saying? So I'm 106 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: interested to see who that guy's gonna be. Maybe it's 107 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: not one, maybe it's two or three guys. But Matt 108 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: Ryan was that guy and he's no longer here, so 109 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: let's kind of dive into it. Obviously, we talked about 110 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: the roster has turned over, it's a new season, there's 111 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: a lot of new faces. What should we expect? I'm 112 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,799 Speaker 1: a DJM gonna start to you what should we expect 113 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: to learn in this training camp during specific position groups? Right? 114 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 1: Which position battles are you excited to see here in 115 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: this training camp? You know you're bringing up The first 116 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: thing that comes to mind is we talked about both guys. 117 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: You guys mentioned the different faces that's going to be 118 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: a part of his team, and I think about the 119 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: different faces. I said, Okay, what is their role gonna be? 120 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: Who are the guys you're gonna be to depend on. 121 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: I think you've learned that throughout training camp. Who are 122 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: those guys gonna be and what their roles are. When 123 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: you think about a guy like Lorenzo Carter coming in here, 124 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: what kind of role is he gonna have? You think 125 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: about Casey Hayward in that backside, how is he gonna 126 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: help that young secretary that you just talked about. Are 127 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: just so many guys. I think you're gonna wonder who's 128 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: gonna be the guy on the outside, who's gonna get 129 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: to the quarterback. We saw a last year kind of 130 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: emerge late in the year and be a guy that 131 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: can really get to the quarterback. Who's gonna be those 132 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: guys in those certain roles, in those certain positions that 133 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: you can know you can depend on weekend and week out. Now, 134 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: I think you'll have a better idea once training camp 135 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: goes on and we see what happens when you have 136 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: all these inter squad practices and all this kind of stuff, 137 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: which one of those guys are gonna merge, and how 138 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: those guys helped those certain position groups become better. Dave. 139 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: The last time that we did a podcast that was 140 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: basically a summary about the draft, and we talked a 141 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: lot about the needs for Atlanta going into it, and 142 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: things that popped up were edge rusher, obviously wide receiver. 143 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about offensive line. But now 144 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,239 Speaker 1: that we've seen all these players added to the roster 145 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: in various wave shapes or forms, which position group are 146 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: you the most interested in seeing well, we've got to 147 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: make a dramatic improvement along the offensive line. Now, does 148 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: that mean just we get into year two for a 149 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: guy like Mayfield, where he steps into year two and 150 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 1: he becomes a better player, or does he get pushed 151 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: to Schaeffer come in and take his job? What's happening 152 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: at center? Two guys young guys in Dolman in Hennessey 153 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 1: going head to head and then that right tackle position 154 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: is McGarry and trench there? Or is Muhammad to be 155 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: able to step in? Is it jermainea fett he gonna 156 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: be able to step in? So a tremendous amount of 157 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: I think upgraded competition along the offensive line has a 158 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: chance to make some plays. News that came down where 159 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: Dion Jones was going to start the season on the 160 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: pop list. Does that usher in a guy I think 161 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: it's going to be a baller in Anderson, the linebacker 162 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: from Montana State. People saying, oh he played in a 163 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: little school. Dude can do it all. He's six foot three, 164 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: two hundred forty five pounds, runs four to four, He's 165 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: a tackling machine. Does that usher him in quicker and 166 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: have him next to Evans's linebacker inside and does that 167 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: give the Atlanta ability to maybe do something with Deon Jones. 168 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: That's still kind of up in the air as well, 169 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: but he starts on the puplist. Those are a couple 170 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: of areas offensive line and then that second level of 171 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: defensive line, and a lot of people a talking about 172 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: the D line in rushers rightly so, but what's going 173 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: on in that second level because we've had a guy 174 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: in Deon Jones and a guy named Foya Lucan who 175 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: were tackling machines back there they're gone. Yeah, who's playing there? Yeah? 176 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: Great point, Great point. You talked about a line and 177 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: guys when we were kind of getting ready for some 178 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: of the draft stuff. I know you guys liked edge 179 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: rusher a lot more defensive back, even I was the 180 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: one that was kind of pounding the pavement on offensive line, 181 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: and Dave, I'm gonna kind of piggyback on what you said. 182 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: It was interesting that you pointed out center because I 183 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: literally just thought about this, think about kind of the 184 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: last I don't want to fifteen years or so. You 185 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: basically had Todd McClure, who held that position down for 186 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: so many years, right and then you essentially went from 187 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: McClure to Alex mac right. So you had two guys 188 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: that knew how to coordinate the offensive line and they 189 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: did it without a hitch right And so now you 190 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: don't have either those guys. You have young players, and 191 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: sometimes it takes a long time for kind of what 192 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: I was talking about, those guys to feel comfortable saying 193 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: I got this. I'm gonna make the Rip Liz call, 194 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make the Ringo Lucky call, whatever it is. 195 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure that my right guard and right 196 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: tackle know who they're combo blocking up to the next level. 197 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: That's a huge position that needs to be figured out, 198 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: and one of those guys has to take the reins 199 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: and say I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna be the 200 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: leader of the offensive line. Because you start looking at 201 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: the numbers. Rushing was not good last year. I think 202 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: they were like twenty sixth in the league in rushing 203 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: last year. Gave up forty sacks essentially, that's two and 204 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: a half sacks a game. And I would also add 205 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: that having a savvy veteran quarterback in Matt Ryan probably 206 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: eluded some more of sacks that could have added onto 207 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: that total. He threw a lot of balls away that 208 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: probably could have turned out to being sacks. So let's 209 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: use that as a segue to the next conversation because 210 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: we didn't really dive into quarterbacks yet, and I got 211 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: two of them here, guys, and it's arguably nationally one 212 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: of the biggest position battles for this franchise. So Dave, 213 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: I want you to break it down what you're looking 214 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: for out of Marcus Mariota and Desmond Ritter and what 215 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: you think might end up playing out over the next 216 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: call it, four or five weeks. How quickly can they 217 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: do what you've talked about. I'm not talking about being 218 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: the face of the team, but certainly a lightning rod 219 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: that becomes that leadership quality that's an eight. With quarterbacks, 220 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: you have to have some of that in you, not 221 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: saying you have to be the exclusive leader. And Matt 222 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: Ryan was not a guy. There was a raw, raw 223 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 1: guy on the field. Now, he would chew your rear 224 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: in during a game. We saw it. Shock and I 225 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: both saw it. You saw it play out in games. 226 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: But he wasn't necessarily that guy that was pounding people 227 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: on the back. So leading by example, I think those 228 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: are the first two things that the first thing I 229 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: need to see from both those guys. They're gonna play 230 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: ritter in Mariota. The second part of it is, I 231 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: think the part that I think a lot of fans 232 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: are excited about is the fact that these guys can 233 00:09:55,480 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: extend play. You're talking about tremendous athletes at the college 234 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: level and Mariota at the professional level to be able 235 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: to extend. And maybe that's not a throwaway way anymore. 236 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: And now you're second and ten. Maybe it's he scrambles 237 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: out and gets five. Now it's second and five on 238 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: a broken play. I think that's what I'm looking for 239 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: from them as well. Obviously, absorb the offense, be that leader, 240 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: but then make those off key plays, those off those 241 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: impromptu type plays that maybe extend to drive do something 242 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: for you that's gonna be positive on offense. I'll add 243 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: one thing to what Archer's talking about. Today was the 244 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: official first day where players arrived. A couple of players 245 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: got a chance to talk to the media, and one 246 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: guy talked today was Chris Lynstrom, and I asked that 247 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: kind of question about those two guys, and the first 248 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: thing he said was the leadership part of it. But 249 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: he said the command that both those guys had when 250 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: they both walked into the huddle, the command they had 251 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. He said, it took a 252 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: couple of days for us to kind of understand the 253 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: cadence of both guys and all that kind of stuff. 254 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: But he said, both guys commanded the scrimmage, commanded the huddle, 255 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: so we knew we were good. Yea. And for me, 256 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: when you hear that from an offensive lineman, that gives 257 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: the confidence that, okay, we got guys back there that 258 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: can handle the big show, that can handle running his team. 259 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: And the first thing I argue mention was the leadership 260 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: part of being able to come in here and galvanize 261 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: guys to come together. And both those guys can't do that. 262 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: We know Ritter did it in college, proven winner, we 263 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: know what, forty six, forty seven winning some crazy like that. 264 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: And Marielle's looking to do the same thing. I mean, 265 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: he's a you know, a top pick. So the guy 266 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: did big things in Oregon. I mean, you know, both 267 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: of these guys are made the right way. But hearing 268 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: Chris Lynstrom say through OTAs through mini camp, we saw 269 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: the command, We saw the leadership. So we know going 270 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: into this training camp, we know we gotta know two guys. 271 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: You guys know it like you gotta own it. You 272 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: gotta own the huddle, you gotta own the line of scrimmage, 273 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: and and everybody around you will know it. Not only 274 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: the players, but the coaches during practice that are standing 275 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: nine to ten yards away with their scripts in their hand, 276 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: They're also gonna know whether or not like, oh, okay, 277 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,599 Speaker 1: this kid looks like he's ready. And I hate to 278 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to discount Mariota because it seems like 279 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: everything you read says that Mariota should have the upper 280 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: hand because of his experience in the league. He's got 281 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: the experience upper hand, Right, I can't help but think 282 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: about a comparison with Desmond Ritter to Russell Wilson, And yes, 283 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: that might be a little the high praise, right, But 284 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson was doubted when he was in college. Right, Hey, 285 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: he's too small. I don't know if he's going to 286 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: translate into a baseball baseball players. He really locked in 287 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: and what did he do. He came into the league 288 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: and he commanded the huddle and commanded the line of scrimmage, 289 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: and there was no question that he was going to 290 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: be the starter when he came into the league. Now 291 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's going to happen with Desmond Ritter, 292 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: but probably a lot of the same things. Ah didn't 293 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: play at a big time power five school. Always had 294 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: to be a workhorse guy. Well he was. He guess 295 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: what all he did was win. All they did was win. 296 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: So he's used to having like the odds stacked against him, right, 297 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: So maybe that plays into his favor as he comes 298 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: into the Falcons organization. And like you said, DJ, he 299 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: owns the huddle, he owns a line of scrimmage. But 300 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: it's going to be fascinating to see how this one 301 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: plays comparison though A Rack, I think it's a good 302 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: one too. Who would we talk about as some of 303 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: the better deep ball passers in the National Football League. 304 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's in the top five. He may be the 305 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: best deep ball passer in the game, on the money, 306 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: on the move, whatever needs. Ritter comes in with that 307 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: ability to throw the ball down the field. One of 308 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: the things they're talking about is Ritter's ability to stretch 309 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: the field and throw the ball down the field with accuracy. 310 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: Interesting comparison. Yeah, I mean, just guys that were doubted, 311 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: guys that can get outside the pocket. I know that's 312 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: what Arthur Smith wants to do this year. Use the 313 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: running game and then get some bootlegs out on the edge. 314 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: These guys can do it. So it's the only time 315 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: we'll tell. We'll see what happens on the field. This 316 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: episode in part brought to you by the Home Depot. 317 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: Everything you need for your next home improvement project is 318 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: just a tap away on the home Depot app. The 319 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: home Depot app digital toolbox gives you access to how 320 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: to guides, project calculators, and image search so you'll know 321 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: exact lee what you need to pick up with the 322 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: tap of the finger. You can rent and reserve the 323 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: right tools for the job. 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Dave, tell 332 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: me how important it is this training camp, specifically for 333 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: some of the older players on the team to step 334 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: up and not necessarily be that guy that I was 335 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: talking about earlier, but being that leader to show guys 336 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: what it takes to be a pro, what they have 337 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: to do outside of their time in the building, watching 338 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: tape amongst each other, what they need to do when 339 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: they go home at night, all those little things. How 340 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: can the veterans help advance this team. Yeah, the poster 341 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: child for that, we all know what his name is. 342 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: His name's Grady Jarrett. You know Grady comes to work, 343 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: how much he works during on a Tuesday or a 344 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: Wednesday or a Thursday. He's trying to get himself in 345 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: that position to where when he plays on Thursday, it's 346 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: getting ready for Sunday. Certainly transmitting some of those ideas 347 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: I've characterized some of these guys you talked about, Carter coming, Learns, 348 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: Carter coming, and Casey Hayward coming in. Some of these 349 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: veteran players that are coming in Marcus Mariota with a 350 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: kind of a reboot on their career, okay, and not 351 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: the older guys with Sean Evans. This is a guy 352 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: that was drafted just a few years ago at number 353 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: one draft pick, a Carter number one draft pick, and 354 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, it didn't work out for those gags. 355 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: So they come in with that chip on the shoulder 356 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: and I think a little bit of an edge at 357 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: least I'm hoping that that's something they come in with. 358 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: Does that edge perpetuate itself into a want to that 359 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: the younger players are watching saying, dude, look at this 360 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: dude preparing. Yeah, that's the level we have to get to. 361 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: That's what they're gonna need to do. Rack. I think 362 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: I think you can't hope that that happens. That has 363 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: to happen. Grady can carry some of the load and 364 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: is going to be on the sideline, so how much 365 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: can you get from there? I think Cordarol Patterson loves 366 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: being Atlanta. We here saw it all losses. They got 367 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: him resigned. Jake Matthews is a guy that's gonna have 368 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: to command respect along the offensive line and demand that 369 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: those five guys that step on the field with him 370 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: and Chris Lindstrom are the other three guys that they 371 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: play at a high level. But yeah, I think I 372 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: don't think that you hope these guys can do it. 373 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: They have to do it, And I'm hoping the chip 374 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: on the shoulder thing helps some of the new guys. Yeah, 375 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: because it may not be a guy that's been in 376 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: the league nine or ten years. That might be the 377 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: guy that's been three or four hasn't quite lived up 378 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: to his expectations. And yes, the change of scenery is 379 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: what allows him to kind of break out a little bit. 380 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: Da've mentioned three or four names. Any of those ones 381 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: the guys on your list or do you have somebody else? 382 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: You know what? Those are all guys that come to 383 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: mind for sure. I mean, I think when you think 384 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: about the pillars or oh we even started out talking 385 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: about we need guys who can be the face of 386 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: this organization, and those are guys that you feel like 387 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: can be specially nine seven is one of those guys 388 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: that you see out in front. I mean, I see 389 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: Gradio on social media all the time and it's and 390 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: it's a regular day. He just finished maybe leaving the facility, 391 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: I know it, but he's working out. He's showing the 392 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: video of him doing it the accountability part of the action, 393 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: like a lot of guys can talk it like. I 394 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: played with a guy named Matt Shaw who played, you know, 395 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: tons of years in the league. Wasn't a raw rock guy, 396 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: wasn't a guy who you know, you know shabby. I mean, 397 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: he wasn't very outspoken. Both of you guys know him 398 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: very well. But the guy did it every single day. 399 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: So that's how I knew how to prepare. I saw 400 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: the things that he did on a daily basis, and 401 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: you gotta have guys inside the locker room who can 402 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: do that. And I think nine seven is one of 403 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: those guys, whether you're on offense or defense, that you 404 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: see him work, you say, this is kind of guy 405 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: that I want to follow and be like. And he 406 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: I think it's number one when you think about a 407 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: guy on this football team that when training camp starts, 408 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: they're gonna be eyes watching him on how he goes 409 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: every single day and that's gonna dictate where this team goes. 410 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: I'll tell you one other guy rack that I think 411 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: that we probably should mention is Eric Harris. I think 412 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: Eric Harris is one of those guys that when he 413 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: walks in the room just kind of command ends the respect. 414 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: He's played at a high level in the league. He 415 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: played well here at times a year ago as he 416 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: came in as a first year safety here, and I 417 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: think that the guys Richie Grant and Jalen Hawkins have 418 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: a tremism in respect for him. At some point you 419 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: expect those two guys to be on the field and 420 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: maybe he's not, but from a leadership standpoint, and I 421 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: think Eric Harris needs to be mentioned as well. Yeah, 422 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people that are listening 423 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: to this podcast, they want to hear the names on 424 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: the roster right now. They want to hear the guys 425 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: that we think have a chance to step up. But 426 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: I also think it's a good idea sometimes that us 427 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: three stepped back and talk about who was that for 428 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: us when we played because DJ, you and I got 429 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 1: to share a little bit of time together. And I'll 430 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: just start this one. I'll tell you that when I 431 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: came into the league in two thousand, I understand that 432 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: was a long time ago for many of you guys, least, 433 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: I will tell you that the guys that were on 434 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: the roster when I came in were guys like Jesse Tuggle, sure, right, 435 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: and you think about him, bring of honor, right? And 436 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: I came in and I didn't know a ton about him, 437 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: but I knew that I used him in tech Mo 438 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: Bowl because he was legit and Techbo Bowl. And again 439 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: so many people are like, what is tech Mobowl anyway? 440 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: Old school video game? Okay? But I came in with 441 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: guys like him, like Terrence Mathis, Guys like Bob Whitfield, Chris. 442 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: Those were the veterans that I came in with rookie 443 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: my third year. We're gonna get to your Dave, hold on, 444 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to you. Those are the guys that 445 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: helped me learn what it took to be a pro, 446 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: because those were guys that I saw on TV. Those 447 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: were guys that I saw in uniform succeeding, doing great things. 448 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: And I said, those are the guys that I need 449 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: to model my early career after. What are they doing 450 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: to get ahead? What are they doing to be successful 451 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: as pros? You mentioned Matt Shop, Who else was it 452 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: for you? DJ Man? I remember work done when he 453 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: was here. I mean some of the things that he 454 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: did in practice, some of the things he did to 455 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: get himself, writing and you looked at him and you said, 456 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: there's no way this guy's been the NFL this long. 457 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: And you're like, this is like a regular guy. But 458 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: work was one of the toughest guys you be around. 459 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: Another guy who I remember when I'll say his name 460 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: first and I'll tell a quick story, my man, Lawyer, 461 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 1: My lord. I'm talking about when he came here. Oh man, 462 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: law Dog was all business and he was coming with 463 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: a chip on his shoulder like a lot of guys, uh, 464 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: you know, coming from different places. And I remember, I 465 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: can't remember that. I think Mike went down to shobby. 466 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: Somebody went down and I was next in line, and 467 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm literally sitting on the bench like you know, talking 468 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: to when the quarterbacks coach, uh and uh, law Dog 469 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: comes walking by, and I'm talking about the look on 470 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: his face. It was like you better be ready. Your 471 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: name was called, you better be ready because you next 472 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: in line. And I was sitting there like, man, this 473 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: man act like I gotta feed his family right now. 474 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: But it was so intensity. Yeah, but the way he 475 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: wasn't practicing in games. He is one guy that you 476 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: looked at, Oh man, this is a true leader. For 477 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: is a guy who you know you better come with 478 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: it every single day where he gonna let you know, 479 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: he gonna keep you accountable. And that's who law dog 480 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: won about it, Dave, I know you've been waiting. Well. 481 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna mention names that people men remember 482 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 1: from long ago. Jesse Tuggle came in I think my 483 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: third year in the league. He was a rookie out 484 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: of Valdosta State. Nobody knew who anything I think about 485 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: the guy, and the next thing you know, he becomes 486 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: the all time leading tackler in Falcon history and was 487 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: a dominating player at the linebacker spot. Undersized as well. 488 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: On the defensive side, Buddy Curry was a big time player, 489 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: leading tackler for seven straight seasons. Bobby Butler an outstanding 490 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: corner that we had at a Florida State who was 491 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: a former number one draft pick. But I'd have to 492 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: look at the offensive side and I'm talking about ring 493 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: of honor guys. Now I'm talking about Mike kein left tackle. 494 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the center, Jeff Van Note. I mean, 495 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: those are guys that ring are in the amount. Billy 496 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: White shows Johnson, our part returner and leading receiver a 497 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: couple of seasons while I was here. So those are 498 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: named names because they're on pillars that are at the 499 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: stadium exactly. But I remember Jeff van Note. I walked 500 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: up to coach, I'd say, coach. I walked up to 501 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: van Note and I said, mister van Note, when I 502 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: was a rookie, I said, mister van Note, what do 503 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: we wear on road trips? He said, casual with class kid, 504 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: casual with class out. I said, Wow, it's like pearls 505 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: of wisdom dropping. I could just imagine you going home 506 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: and being like, oh my gosh, I got no casuals. 507 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: So I got where's that classic stuff? Now? Those guys 508 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 1: were big time players, and obviously they've been enshrined in 509 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: a ring of honor in the stadium. Yeah, and who knows, 510 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: maybe some of these guys that are on this current 511 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: roster will end up, you know, kind of holding that 512 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: position and getting into the ring of ring of honor 513 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: themselves one day. All right, So we kind of took 514 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 1: a little trip back down memory lane. Let's get refocused, 515 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: not to get refocused, because that's a blast. Guys are 516 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: starting training camp. Okay, let's do one more little story 517 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: here before we go, And I'm gonna come right back 518 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: to you, Dave training camp. So give us one or 519 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: two of your favorite training camp memories. It could be 520 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: something that happened on the field, he's something that happened 521 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: in the dorms. That could be something that happened outside 522 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: of it. Maybe you decided to tell coaches you were 523 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: sick at practice and you went to play golf. I 524 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe, yeah, what kind of memories. No, there's 525 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: there's so many, so many memories that that flood back 526 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: for me. I think the thing that I remembered the 527 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: most that sticks out in my mind. I tell his 528 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: story a lot. When I arrived here in my rookie year, 529 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: we did seventeen straight, two days in full seventeen two 530 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: days a full pet. My roommate was Scott Kase, who 531 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: was a former Oklahoma Sooner. Intercepted ten passes in one 532 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: season as the Falcon they get still the all time record. 533 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: Uh yeah. He could knock your jock and the dirt 534 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: and he would get up and laugh about it and 535 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: talk to you and all that kind of stuff. He 536 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: comes into training camp the following year, he's about one 537 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: eighty five fit. We worked out all year long together. 538 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: We were ready to go. He comes in ready to roll. 539 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: Three days into camp, he's packed in ice with ivys 540 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: in both arms and ways one sixty nine. I mean, 541 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: we're you guys, know you drink water, You drink water, 542 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: you drink water. You can't you can't eat, You're still 543 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: sweating it when you're at lunch, sweats still pouring up. 544 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: You lose like two pounds at lunch, lose eight at practice, 545 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: two at lunch, come back out, lose ten more in 546 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: the afternoon because practice was at two o'clock. Yeah, thankfully 547 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: for these guys. I guess they're much smarter now than 548 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: they used to be. I think they even smartened up 549 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: when you guys died in the league as well. But 550 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: I'll never forget that. I mean, there's somebody else and 551 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: we'll visit throughout the year here on Falcon's audible. Tell 552 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: a few stories and stuff about all of us that 553 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: we have, because there's a ton of them we all have. 554 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: But that's one that stuff. I forgot what day it was. Yeah, 555 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 1: I was writing and this is no cell phones now, 556 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: writing to my girlfriend. Write a letter to her back 557 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: at iway staying, Yeah, you know, I know you can 558 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: write or maybe Reckon, So writing her a letter and 559 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: I couldn't remember what day it was. Seventeen straight days 560 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: in two two day in full pads. I thought, wow, 561 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 1: I really want to do this. Yeah, I turned out Okay, DJ, 562 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: how about you? Man? Oh Man? So I had a 563 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: couple of roommates, but man, Jared's Norwood. You guys know 564 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: Adam Jennings who uhould call angry man? And for people 565 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: who don't know each and every day there's a different install, 566 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: there's a different something. You gotta, you know, get ready 567 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: for the next day. So we've had one day of practice. 568 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: Now you go back to your room and now we're like, okay, 569 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: let's get ready to you know, get ready for the 570 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: next day's look at tomorrow's install. Let's start looking at it. 571 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: So I'm in my room looking at it. All I 572 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: know is it comes Jay Rock. Everybody knows if you 573 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: know jen right, he's from Mississippi. He a man. If 574 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: we get in uh double and we got this two 575 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: jet where I go, Okay, we talked about we go 576 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: through it. He'd go back to his room, come back again. 577 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: Ay mane uh, I'm like, bro, I'm trying to learn 578 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: it too. But he looked at me like you t QB. 579 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: So this went off for like fifteen twenty minutes of 580 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: the entire install. It was every other minute like okay, 581 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: so what if you know, we get in this set, 582 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: were getting this formation and I run this. I say, 583 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: Jay Rock, come on, man, you gotta you gotta, you 584 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: gotta give me some time. But it was like every 585 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: other minute he was coming up and are different. Hey man, look, look, look, look, 586 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: I'm telling Shot I need to know. I need to know. 587 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: I can't get in and not know what's going on. 588 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: Jay Rock got you. I got you. So I remember 589 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: days like that. Well, it was every day of so 590 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: I actually learned had to learn to playbook twice because 591 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: taller to myself. Then I had to teach it to 592 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: my man, Jay Rock. Gosh, you know, it's if you 593 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: think back at so many things, guys, and it's like 594 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 1: I think when I when I saw this topic, I 595 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: was like, man, what about the rookie shows that we 596 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: used to I mean, I remember watching shock through the 597 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: Rookie shows when when I was a veteran that yeah, 598 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: seven rookie shows just see you know, it's where the 599 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 1: rookies put on a show for the veterans, and they 600 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: can either imitate somebody on the team or coach to 601 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: get laughs, or if you have a talent, like a 602 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: true talent, you can perform that talent and rag this 603 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 1: is the most that was the most nervous talent. You 604 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: better be good, right because you got what seventy guys 605 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,719 Speaker 1: in there that will clown you up and down. And 606 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: then if you don't do it good, guess what, you 607 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: gotta come back and do it again because you gotta 608 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: get it back. You gotta get it right. So I 609 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: think about the rookie shows, I think about all the things, 610 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: but you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna leave it 611 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: with this. When I walked in the building today, here 612 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: there are two large ice makers and like six or 613 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: seven like horse troughs sitting out front. And I own 614 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: a gym, right, and so everybody will come up to 615 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: me as the former football player, what do you do 616 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: when you're really soared? Like so I was telling this 617 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: is what I used to do, not necessarily recommending it 618 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: for you, but you need to find the biggest trash 619 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: can that you can find, fill it up with ice 620 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: and water, and sit in it. And they're like, oh, 621 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: my gosh, that sounds awful. Is that not painful? I'm like, 622 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: it's called survival and it is painful. So tell them 623 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: this after one of those two and a practices, Dave, 624 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: does it not just feel divine? It was when you 625 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: got out, now, when you got in the tub, and 626 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: we remember we were kept trying to find the little 627 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: foot eag. But when it's gonna be about a minute 628 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: and a half, two minutes, you're gonna have to cut 629 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: it out. But when you go to Nirvana, which when 630 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: you get can you get out, it's like they cut 631 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: off your lower half and soda new one on. You 632 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: walk out of a Wow. I got a lot of 633 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: spring in my stead. So anyway, again, I'm not giving 634 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: medical advice. I'm not recommending anything. I'm just telling you 635 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: what used to work for us. I got I got 636 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: one more last training camp story, and I woke Dave 637 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: to kinda to back me up on this one. And 638 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: people may not want to hear, but it's part of 639 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: training camp between quarterbacks and centers. As you know, centers 640 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: and off us we're pretty big guys, right and you 641 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: get through halfway through a practice and these guys are leaking. 642 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, yeah, leak, it's not just sweating arch. 643 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: How bad did the top of your hand smell from 644 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm just saying people want to him real training camp. 645 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: So we're gonna keep it one, hug. We're gonna keep 646 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: it one. That is a real memory from training camp. 647 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: Me and the shower was scrubbing the top of my 648 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: hand and coming out and it's still still right, right, 649 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: that's that's no lie. I'll take it one step further here. 650 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: We got our young center was on the wedge. In 651 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: the first preseason game. Guy comes down, they have this 652 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: huge collision. Kids's name a good player, right, gets blasted 653 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: in the huge collision. He gets back in the huddle, 654 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: come out of the predal break the huddle and you think, damn, 655 00:29:55,240 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: what is that? My man had all in and you 656 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: gotta take a step. We're not in the shotgun now. 657 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: You gotta slide up underneath. We're gonna I thought about 658 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: a delay a game. I can't do this playing the 659 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: game first, playing again about taking the delay game. But 660 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: they got him over the side. You know, there's no 661 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: running back to the locker room. Yeah, no, pants down. 662 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: They're trying to clean his gut. Just one of the 663 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: clean parts of the league. Gary, what happens. It happens 664 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: just when you think you've heard everything. So let's leave 665 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: it there because there might be some people that are 666 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: getting a little queasy. But yes, it's not always all 667 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: glitz and glamor in the NFL. Ladies and gentleman, you 668 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: know what that's gonna do it for today. I don't 669 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: want to open these guys up too much because we 670 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: might need to change the straight Thanks so much for 671 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: joining us as our producer here. Sam mentioned football season 672 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: is back upon. We're gonna be back back and we're 673 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: gonna do this a whole lot more moving forward. Appreciate 674 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,719 Speaker 1: you guys joining us here on the Falcon's Audible presented 675 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: by AT and T. Hope you enjoyed the stories. 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