WEBVTT - Ep75: Addicted to Sex Feat Rich

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<v Speaker 1>Hi guys, we are here again. Welcome to another episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Horrible Decisions the Sea Girl Mandib And we actually

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think we were going to be able to have videos.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I did. I was like, oh, we're good.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, I mean I yes. I I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>if our guest today was going to want to be

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<v Speaker 1>on video today because we're actually kind of talking about

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<v Speaker 1>something a little serious. But before we but he consented.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you guys to know that we know how

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<v Speaker 1>to ask for consent and we said it in a

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<v Speaker 1>very sexy way. Can we film you yes means yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get into Horrible Decisions today, I did want

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<v Speaker 1>to go ahead and give a huge shout out UM

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<v Speaker 1>to the Joe Button Podcast for shouting us out on

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<v Speaker 1>their podcast, UM last week, dope. Well, I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go ahead and drop this next week. So just

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<v Speaker 1>because we're having issues making sure we get you guys

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<v Speaker 1>the best quality of videos for YouTube, and again shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to our YouTube viewer is um, you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>showing us love. You guys appreciate when we dropped the videos,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all can kind of see our faces or whatnot, So

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<v Speaker 1>that's super exciting. I did want to go ahead. We

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<v Speaker 1>did get an email in response to UM one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that Rory said, and I wanted to bring UM,

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<v Speaker 1>to bring light to it because I thought that it

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<v Speaker 1>was important to kind of make sure we're we're not UM,

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<v Speaker 1>what do I say, maybe spreading information that maybe inaccurate.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, we try to, you know, teach you guys

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<v Speaker 1>as much as we can. And Rory mentioned UM during

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<v Speaker 1>the consent talk and the drunk sex talk that most

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<v Speaker 1>men are always to blame when they go to court

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<v Speaker 1>and you can't win in court. So I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>read one of these letters from our listeners. They actually said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just listening to your latest podcast and want to

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<v Speaker 1>point out that what your guest Rory said about men

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<v Speaker 1>always losing in court of law is bullshit. Out of

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<v Speaker 1>every thousand rapes in the US, only six perpetrators will

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<v Speaker 1>be incarcerated. And I do want to say She also

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<v Speaker 1>included a link for us to do our own research. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid that Rory spread some very damaging and dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>myths about the treatment of rape and sexual assault in

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<v Speaker 1>the criminal justice system. That being said, the discussion about

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<v Speaker 1>consent is very important and I think you're right to

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<v Speaker 1>be having it with men would be better, um if

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<v Speaker 1>those men had their facts straight. Though. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>what Rory was just saying is that as men, you

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<v Speaker 1>need to be even more careful, um, because we know,

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<v Speaker 1>and as we've been seeing with everything that's been going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if you're accused the court of like ship, not

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<v Speaker 1>even the real court, but public opinion pens you was guilty, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's maybe something he was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>reference more so than anything, when when he said that,

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<v Speaker 1>I was immediately thinking of the what's the swimmer brock

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<v Speaker 1>something I don't know when when he's the white boy

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<v Speaker 1>that raped the girl and then he got off completely

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<v Speaker 1>scott free. He was woman or something like that. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember who we rate like I heard it was

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<v Speaker 1>like an elderly woman was that it No, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>this is somebody else that was on here and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't like community service. Yeah, he was like this like

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<v Speaker 1>star swimmer and you know, you know just I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's weird because when Marity said that, I think her

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<v Speaker 1>and I both like nodded our heads. And it's because

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<v Speaker 1>you always just know that they're such a bad like

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<v Speaker 1>you never get away from it. It's just this bad

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<v Speaker 1>stigma attached to you for life. You're always going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a rapist, no matter what the funk you do.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I didn't know that until that girl sent

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<v Speaker 1>the ad or I don't know if it was a

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<v Speaker 1>man or a woman sent them the link. And I

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<v Speaker 1>really appreciate you for doing that, because, to be honest

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<v Speaker 1>with you, I couldn't believe the numbers. What was it?

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<v Speaker 1>One and every how many people? Oh I didn't I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't look at it. It was a crazy number, like

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<v Speaker 1>one in every sixty six or something like that. Get

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<v Speaker 1>a cute, I mean, or get um? What's the word

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking for. I'm for the first time. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what that is. I'm sucked up is this crazy workout

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<v Speaker 1>ship and I'm like zoned in on like everything in

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<v Speaker 1>this room. It's like adderall but like for the gym,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel insane by the way. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>let you guys know, Welcome to Horrible Decisions. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>ran new listener from Joe Budden's podcast and you heard

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<v Speaker 1>rory um. Every week, we have different types of guests,

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<v Speaker 1>whether they're kinky or whether they're an influencer, whoever they

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<v Speaker 1>might be. This week, Um, we have someone super special

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<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna find out where they're here. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a few different topics that we talked about every week,

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<v Speaker 1>a few different segments, and then when we're about to

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<v Speaker 1>get into is called vanilla shit, where pretty much is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be the most vanilla ship we talk about. It's

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<v Speaker 1>something in the news where sex is there, um, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it be something like someone getting accused of rape, or

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<v Speaker 1>someone selling their panties online, or the girl in Japan

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<v Speaker 1>who was sucking too under people, whatever it might be.

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<v Speaker 1>And this week it's about gay porn studies. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's something that I actually came across UM looking.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on Twitter, so of course a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>send me um some pretty weird things. And I've mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>multiple times on the show that I am a female

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<v Speaker 1>who was into watching gay porn. You're not the only one,

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<v Speaker 1>And apparently the new study actually says um. Back in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand fifteen, the wildly popular online pornography site Pornhub,

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<v Speaker 1>which both over a hundred and fifteen million daily views,

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<v Speaker 1>published findings that took sexuality researcher Lucy a. Ville by surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>Women are responsible for more than a third of the

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<v Speaker 1>site's gay male porn views UM and so I am

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<v Speaker 1>going to attach this link onto our Patreon account for

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<v Speaker 1>those of you who are patrons, and basically you can

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<v Speaker 1>read up on it basically talking about the psychological factors

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<v Speaker 1>as to why women prefer gay porn over I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is weird. Men like watching lesbian porn if women

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<v Speaker 1>are head a sexual and the male body. Some men do,

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<v Speaker 1>but but all not women. I mean, all women don't

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<v Speaker 1>like gay male porn either. But here's the thing, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you like a certain body type in your head

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<v Speaker 1>or right, and then you get to see two of them,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the best. I mean, that's why I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>we like to watch it. Well, they the study actually

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<v Speaker 1>went in depth as to why they say women like

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<v Speaker 1>to watch it, and one of the things that I

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<v Speaker 1>read that was fairly interesting was that they feel like

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<v Speaker 1>women in straight porn are often treated poorly. Um. They

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<v Speaker 1>kind of feel like the women are being disrespected and porn,

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<v Speaker 1>which I I agree to that a lot of the times.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a very intimate porn. I will say, if

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<v Speaker 1>you are into watching intimate straight porn, UM, I only

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<v Speaker 1>like BBC's clearly when I watch porn, but black b

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<v Speaker 1>l A c K E D. It's it's filmed very intimate.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's super into. I mean, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would say the production value production values super good,

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<v Speaker 1>but it means to me they show like everyone is consenting,

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<v Speaker 1>like it does. It looks like everyone is just o joint.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me tell you about some intimate Like there's

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<v Speaker 1>a genre called I think it's f E M M

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<v Speaker 1>like fem fem porn. You can google fem porn. There's

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<v Speaker 1>someone called Erica Lust. I brought her up a few times,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a woman that makes porn for women based

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<v Speaker 1>on stories that people send into her. I think she

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<v Speaker 1>has a Patreon. You can watch it. But like, there

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<v Speaker 1>is porn created with like a whole scene with candles

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<v Speaker 1>and ship, like the music that to me is like

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<v Speaker 1>the intimate porn black and as intimate as I want

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<v Speaker 1>to watch. That's some intimate ship. There's only another thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like an intimate porn too much. I like

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to diready in bed, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>the intimate porn is too soft. It's love making basically,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like your hair is beautiful, your eyes are like

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<v Speaker 1>an ocean and like the level and blacked because on

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<v Speaker 1>in black it's like more so they're sucking their friend's friend,

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<v Speaker 1>or they're sugar daddy, or they're sucking their home girl's boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>They shouldn't be sucking, are they it's their first one

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<v Speaker 1>night stand? In black? Yes, Like it's very very there's

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<v Speaker 1>all you know, like that intimate, having fun intimate to me.

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<v Speaker 1>All porn besides, like gonzo porn is like what's gonzo porn? Gonzo?

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<v Speaker 1>From what I understand, it's basically just go straight into

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<v Speaker 1>the shot, like I need a sorry line. I can

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<v Speaker 1>do Gonzo all the time. I could do both. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't jerk off for your story. I need at least

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<v Speaker 1>one minute of the storyline than one minute of watching porn.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I passed forward to the fucking I then

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<v Speaker 1>I only like certain angles in the fucking stuff. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really big on telling me fast forward to the cum shot,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why I only watch now because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to watch for five minutes of coum shots.

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<v Speaker 1>I do fast forward to the shot to the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just exciting for me. And now that like, so

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<v Speaker 1>we got sponsored by Spunk lube. And it's actually, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, I didn't know people. I hate to say

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<v Speaker 1>it like this, but like when someone wants to sponsor something,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, are they not well known yet? And

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<v Speaker 1>of course that's not always true, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you do say in Handy Blueser or whatever. So

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<v Speaker 1>spunk Globe is a loube that looks like come. And

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<v Speaker 1>I had it in my house and one of my

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<v Speaker 1>age was like, oh my god, bitch, they gave you

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<v Speaker 1>like bottles like this. Oh my god, I used this

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<v Speaker 1>all the time and like it like it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it looks the consistency is just like, come, what

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<v Speaker 1>does it taste like? Oh, we ain't tasted now, it

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<v Speaker 1>ain't flavor. It tastes fine. Sorry, but before we leave

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<v Speaker 1>the Vanilla Show, I also wanted to note that another

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<v Speaker 1>keep finding over the course of Netville's um research was

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<v Speaker 1>that of the women and said that they had imagined

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<v Speaker 1>themselves as men while consuming the gay mail erotica. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy because I don't really let's just speak of me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think of myself as the male, but I

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<v Speaker 1>either envisioned myself in the room watching and I always

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<v Speaker 1>pick one of them to be my my boyfriend or

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<v Speaker 1>something like, oh yeah, take that. See I've I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>guys say that with lesbian porn. For me, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>get down with lesbian porn only because I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>where I fit into the equation. Like for me, when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching porn, it's like I'm trying to live vicariously

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<v Speaker 1>through the guy that's there. But if it's just girls there,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, cool, am I supposed to relate to? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think like that. That's just me. I understand

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<v Speaker 1>why some guys like lesbian porn and why some girls

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<v Speaker 1>like gas. I don't need to you both just said this.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to put me in there at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I just watch it. Oh yeah, I imagine now there

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<v Speaker 1>is a moment where like I'll watch it and then

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<v Speaker 1>I'll like close, like there's actually this is more recently,

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<v Speaker 1>the last thirty seconds before an orgasm. I let the

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<v Speaker 1>phone drop and I close my eyes and then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like in my own thing, Like I just was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we were doing bococky done, and then I'm like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, wakonda. That's really what I've been incurating too.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Michael B. Jordan honestly, just everything about him, like

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<v Speaker 1>that final scene where like he rips the shirt off

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<v Speaker 1>and there's like, I'm just mad that he died. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>mad that I saw all the tweets before watching the

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<v Speaker 1>movie and I ain't know. God damn, Michael B. Jordan.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that made me a little bit sad because

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<v Speaker 1>now every movie I've seen almost Michael B. Jordan and

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<v Speaker 1>the nigga died. Fruit Vale Station. He died, motherfucking Black Panther.

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<v Speaker 1>He died. I'm my god, damn, because he's paying villains right.

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<v Speaker 1>He lived in uh no, no, fruit Vale. He was

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<v Speaker 1>just a broke nigger who got shot shot. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>think of a movie that he lived in, because what's

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<v Speaker 1>the first movie, that superhero movie that he was in.

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<v Speaker 1>He probably died in that dying Fantastic four there because

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<v Speaker 1>he was alive. Yeah, I mean, it's a whack as.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just really hoping he comes back to Black Panther

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm not going, I mean, I'll take died in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the Ancestral plane when they you know, take

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth. It's so crazy because we talked about ghosts

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<v Speaker 1>um in the last episode and you posted the meme. Um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if that nigga was alive, I him, and I swear

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<v Speaker 1>I thought about that when Paul Walker died, like that

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<v Speaker 1>was a white man, I would have fucked, like damn,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I mean, is that a bad thing to be

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<v Speaker 1>when someone dies, to be like damn? You could have

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<v Speaker 1>got this hold on. Wait here's like a like is it? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, immediately I thought he died and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you never see him? Like they'd be like he'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>damn he did. Wait? Wait, have you guys ever sucked

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that died? No? No, no, no, Like I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lie. I'd be seeing them r I P T

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<v Speaker 1>shirts and I'd be like, damn he did. I wish died.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's kind of still live. I remember, like someone

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<v Speaker 1>died that I know, and I sucked him, and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't remember I sucked him until one of my homegirls, myni,

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, damn bit remember. I was like, no, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just wrote on a baby mama's Facebook, well

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<v Speaker 1>how sorry I am. I was about to send the

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<v Speaker 1>bitch flowers and then I was like is that wrong? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's bad form problem. But if you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>remember the dick hopefully he having dicks. I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever a girl and didn't remember? Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like everyone sees the title. I feel like you,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean like it's when when

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<v Speaker 1>y'all talk about like body count two, I'm like, how

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<v Speaker 1>would I even approach that? I mean, I haven't already said,

0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't really know the ansom. I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know my body count only because I

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<v Speaker 1>have a list. But I will tell you, Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>have recently just been like, you know, on Instagram and

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<v Speaker 1>like someone write me and I'd be like, oh, let

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<v Speaker 1>me add that to my notes, and I click on

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<v Speaker 1>a section and then you know, I put the number

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<v Speaker 1>right by it. And I had actually have shared the

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<v Speaker 1>list with a few homegirls and be like, I need

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<v Speaker 1>you all to verify because yeah, I think we did

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<v Speaker 1>it on air and I was like, are you I

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<v Speaker 1>know you forgot this negative Niga She was adding while

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<v Speaker 1>he was on the show. It was bad. If I

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<v Speaker 1>typed in every name of every person that I've slept with,

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<v Speaker 1>if I deleted that file, my iPad would be physically stage. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's ridicul you're the cash I would be spending

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<v Speaker 1>so much money on I cloud storage already know. So

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<v Speaker 1>normally what we'd have every week is a kink of

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<v Speaker 1>the week. Um, And I want to know, did you

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<v Speaker 1>end up finding a kink for them? Yeah? Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>a few weeks ago I brought this up and I

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<v Speaker 1>think Mandy was like, I don't understand how you get

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<v Speaker 1>your hair with but I found out it's a kink.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called trip for salond. You know what to pronunciation

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<v Speaker 1>do you go ahead? Which is smart is prips alagnia.

0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:49.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, trips alagnia trip. Look he did really trips alagnia.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, though, it is the joy of getting someone's

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<v Speaker 1>hair shampoo. It is literally you found this as bro

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<v Speaker 1>because everybody be like, damn you like that? You like that?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'd be like, you want you want to? You

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<v Speaker 1>want to see you want to? I mean, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>know when I go to like the Dominicans the lines

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<v Speaker 1>and they'd be like doing my hair and they got

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<v Speaker 1>they do this little scratching thing in the back when

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<v Speaker 1>they do the shampoo, and that ship do feel good?

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<v Speaker 1>It is, So that's what I was finding out, Like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because we're are rogin Is zones and then like that's

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<v Speaker 1>one and it's a very intimate place to be touched.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I remember when we were talking about it

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<v Speaker 1>in the BDSM episode about aftercare. Somebody washed my hair.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was recent I get my hair washed a

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<v Speaker 1>Chinatown and this like really shitty place, um and there

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<v Speaker 1>was a new girl who was like really fucking good looking,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was the first time I've ever opened my

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<v Speaker 1>eyes we had my hair washed because I was just

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<v Speaker 1>like and like it was just wet and Sophie and

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<v Speaker 1>she was just like, it's good to h I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>like like my I like my my neck the back

0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.080
<v Speaker 1>of my neck rubbed, and I like the guys to

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<v Speaker 1>play in my hair. And a lot of guys like

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<v Speaker 1>for women to play in their hair too when they

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<v Speaker 1>have hair, or even just to especially with my acrylic nails.

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<v Speaker 1>Niggas love it. I'd just be like softly scratching bald

0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:10.480
<v Speaker 1>heads and as short as hell. But I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go. So you guys are probably like, who

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<v Speaker 1>is this third voice on the mic? I have questions

0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:20.200
<v Speaker 1>because I just know. Man. He was like, oh, we

0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:21.960
<v Speaker 1>have someone who's gonna come on. I can talk about this.

0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:24.840
<v Speaker 1>This is how do you know about horrible decisions? I

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<v Speaker 1>heard you guys on Brilliant Idiots. Okay, I came from

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<v Speaker 1>that and then he reached out. You reached out? What

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<v Speaker 1>on on my Twitter? You d you d have to

0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:38.600
<v Speaker 1>be somewhere email okay. So um, so, guys, we are

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<v Speaker 1>having an actual, really interesting conversation today and it may

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<v Speaker 1>get a little deep. Um So I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and throw that disclaimer out there. But somehow

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll be thinking we'd be digging for these people

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<v Speaker 1>they come to us, so listen. You know it's his fault,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, we actually have a real life sex addict

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<v Speaker 1>um in the building today and he has gone through

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<v Speaker 1>sexual addiction that has affected his job, his family, his life,

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<v Speaker 1>his financials as well as his relationships. It's all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>It me like, of course you're here, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how many people fucking read the caption and they were like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>I could have been on that ship. And I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like everybody is going to make that joke like you

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<v Speaker 1>know what time, which is I'm so glad because that's

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<v Speaker 1>why he's here. And he actually he actually said, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to let you know that Mandy wheezy,

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<v Speaker 1>both of y'all are safe because probably actually I might

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<v Speaker 1>have it. So what I wanted to start this conversation off,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you guys did not know, we are entering

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<v Speaker 1>the horrible decision for this week of sexual addiction, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I wanted to ask you what is sexual addiction? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>So sexual addiction is a behavioral addiction that basically means

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<v Speaker 1>you feel compulsions to have sex or sexual interactions and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't feel like you're in control of those compulsions.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you differentiate that from someone who just likes

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of sex? Because I know not that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just you saying that made me think of something

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<v Speaker 1>when they say, like the mail on average, every forty

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<v Speaker 1>five seconds or every minute thinks of sex. So what's

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<v Speaker 1>so different with that? And like a sex addict, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, everybody thinks about ship all the time. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's how you act on that that's really the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, how many times have you, you know, been

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<v Speaker 1>pissed at like a coworking, Like I wish I could

0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:27.080
<v Speaker 1>slap that bitch in the mouth right now, but you

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<v Speaker 1>don't do it. Because we live in a polite society.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know whatever, But imagine that you just couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>control that ship. And he was like, I wish I

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<v Speaker 1>could say bam and then that that was it, and

0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.040
<v Speaker 1>the many both would have killed each other if we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have control. There you go, yeah, it would have

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<v Speaker 1>been dead. All right, all right, well you know that

0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:47.679
<v Speaker 1>that's that's they say, if you had that, if you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have that that barrier in your brain, it would

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<v Speaker 1>be the same exact name thing. So, sex addiction is

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<v Speaker 1>basically the inability to to stop yourself and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these things without a tremendous amount of learning about

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<v Speaker 1>yourself and why these things happen and then putting in

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<v Speaker 1>the systems that will prevent that behavior in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>And so um, being a guy with sexual addiction, it's

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<v Speaker 1>considered satta romania, satire romania. I don't really know how

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<v Speaker 1>to say it, but it's the male version of nymphomania,

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<v Speaker 1>which we're all familiar with um, which as a nymphomania

0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:29.160
<v Speaker 1>pertains to women. And then there's a male version of nymphomania.

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<v Speaker 1>And back in the day, they actually diagnosed nymphos um

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<v Speaker 1>as having a mental disorder, and a lot of women

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<v Speaker 1>who were seen as not being able to control their

0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:43.000
<v Speaker 1>sexual desires were actually put into um asilnce not even

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day, we actually did. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if we did a vanilla ship or if I was

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<v Speaker 1>just reading it on my own. But sex addiction in

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<v Speaker 1>the UK is not a mental health disorder. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's mark that's fairly recent. Yeah, like within the last

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks. And so I guess I want to talk

0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:59.680
<v Speaker 1>to you more about that. Um I would love for

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<v Speaker 1>you to just go ahead and open up to us

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<v Speaker 1>and say when you found out your addiction and how

0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:09.080
<v Speaker 1>that journey has has gone. And then of course in

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<v Speaker 1>the mix will go ahead and want to speak on

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<v Speaker 1>more things. But how did you know that you were

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<v Speaker 1>a sex at it? But first off, before I go

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<v Speaker 1>any further, I listened to the last episode with Rory

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<v Speaker 1>and I heard he brought wine, so I had to

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<v Speaker 1>I had to one up on it real quick. Oh look,

0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:27.840
<v Speaker 1>he said, and listen day, so I heard you got

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<v Speaker 1>the cups though I do have cups out. Hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go ahead of port because I actually guys, um

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<v Speaker 1>as you guys know tex addiction in the control, Are

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<v Speaker 1>you trying to get drunk? No? No, no, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I heard the episode a while back with the

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<v Speaker 1>Sante and I heard you guys talking about one of

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<v Speaker 1>his live shows where he had wine from pomp Pet

0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Wine Shop. Actually they're they're my neighbors. So shout shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to Mote from pom Pet and that's a black

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<v Speaker 1>owned wine company in Harlem. Correct. Yeah, I'm Puerto Rican.

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<v Speaker 1>My my father or man who raised me is black

0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:06.520
<v Speaker 1>and he's like your nigot me. So all right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and so so so okay, look now the

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<v Speaker 1>guests is just showing up, you know, bringing wine and

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<v Speaker 1>she you know, I don't know what, so go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and share with our listeners. UM, kind of your sex

0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:26.040
<v Speaker 1>addiction and you know how you got from where you

0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:29.679
<v Speaker 1>were to where you are now okay, So UM, I

0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:35.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't realize my sexual addiction until, like I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>my early twenties, but like looking back, I am thirty.

0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Um looking back on it now, I can see where

0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:46.080
<v Speaker 1>it started. So not every sex addiction UM starts from

0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:48.639
<v Speaker 1>sexual trauma, but for some people it does. For me,

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<v Speaker 1>it did, UM so from sexual trauma at a very

0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:57.840
<v Speaker 1>young age. UM that kind of carried itself through until

0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:01.480
<v Speaker 1>um or it kind of suppressed itself until maybe like

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<v Speaker 1>mid teens. Yeah, by a neighbor or female male. Yeah,

0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:10.800
<v Speaker 1>and he wasn't that much older than me, but he

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<v Speaker 1>was just old enough that I was like looking back,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, that was fucked up, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>now looking back, I see porn was like the first

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<v Speaker 1>thing that really like triggered it, because like, once I

0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:28.800
<v Speaker 1>started watching porn, I was like uncontrollable. I was just like,

0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I feel bad for every computer that I've I feel

0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:37.439
<v Speaker 1>like every teenage boy was jerking off a lot. What

0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:39.920
<v Speaker 1>made you so different? Because every guy's gonna hear this,

0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:42.120
<v Speaker 1>and me, like, dude, I jerked off NonStop. I watched

0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:44.639
<v Speaker 1>porn five times a day, so I heumped everything in

0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:47.680
<v Speaker 1>the house. Well, I used to suck myself and watch

0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:49.359
<v Speaker 1>the window to make sure my mom wasn't coming in

0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:52.200
<v Speaker 1>the driveway. Yeah. Well, I think it has a lot

0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:55.480
<v Speaker 1>to do with when you want to stop. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>before with control. If you are like, all right, I

0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:02.480
<v Speaker 1>should probably can chill out. Yeah, put the brakes on this,

0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:05.360
<v Speaker 1>and you feel like you can't, that's the biggest thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would like watch porn jerk off, and then

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<v Speaker 1>before I had even finished cleaning myself up. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>what am I gonna now? Probably should watch some porn

0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:17.760
<v Speaker 1>like it was. It was that that sort of thing

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<v Speaker 1>like like my balls are wearing so much pain all

0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:25.520
<v Speaker 1>the time. Yeah, it's have you ever had to like

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<v Speaker 1>learn are you ambidextrous? Like can you switch hands? Like

0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:32.000
<v Speaker 1>is your one arm tired? Uh? No, I'm I'm strictly righty.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's been times I've like, your your right arm

0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:39.280
<v Speaker 1>does look a little bigger? Well, no, bullshit. Actually sucked

0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:43.320
<v Speaker 1>up my uh my ring finger on my right hand recently,

0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:48.200
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, I mean like, look, it's not the most

0:22:48.240 --> 0:22:50.919
<v Speaker 1>important one, but I had it like taped up and

0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:52.119
<v Speaker 1>I was like, how the funk am I going to

0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:53.639
<v Speaker 1>jerk off with this? And I was like fuck it.

0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm just gonna have to like suffer

0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:58.080
<v Speaker 1>through the pain. Okay. So even with what Wheezy said,

0:22:58.080 --> 0:22:59.679
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people may listen to this and be like,

0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:02.440
<v Speaker 1>watch a lot of porn, I jack off a lot?

0:23:02.760 --> 0:23:05.280
<v Speaker 1>What am I an addict? So I want to get

0:23:05.320 --> 0:23:10.800
<v Speaker 1>into at what point it started affecting your life? Because

0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:13.879
<v Speaker 1>jacking off isn't affecting your life, but it can and

0:23:13.960 --> 0:23:17.280
<v Speaker 1>you can't control it, So how did it start affecting

0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:21.439
<v Speaker 1>maybe your job, your family and your relationships that so

0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I was once I started sucking, like I started working

0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:27.960
<v Speaker 1>pretty late, well I think pretty late, like probably about

0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:31.880
<v Speaker 1>like eighteen nineteen years old, and like once that started,

0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:34.520
<v Speaker 1>it was just floodgates from there on out. Like I

0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:36.879
<v Speaker 1>was always trying to meet people to have sex with.

0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Whether that meant that I was like trying to cultivate

0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 1>several different relationships with women that I knew, um or

0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I was going on Craigslist or whatever I could find.

0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Then when Tinder came out, that ship fucking ruined me

0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:54.119
<v Speaker 1>even more so. Um But basically I was just running

0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:58.520
<v Speaker 1>through people like body since NonStop. On top of that,

0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I can to myself a heterosexual male, but if a

0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:06.880
<v Speaker 1>woman wasn't available, I would end up trying to find

0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:10.119
<v Speaker 1>a guy to sleep with even though I am not

0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:16.200
<v Speaker 1>attracted to men. Yeah. Yeah, whether it's whether it's I'm

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:18.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm not attracted to men, or be a woman that

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:21.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I'm I'm not feeling her at all, but

0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:24.720
<v Speaker 1>I have to do this. Yeah, did you find it

0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:28.359
<v Speaker 1>was easy? I feel like it's easier to find at

0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:30.640
<v Speaker 1>least the way grinder works nowadays for like a dude

0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 1>to go down on you. Did you find that that

0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:36.480
<v Speaker 1>was just like it would happen quicker for you mean

0:24:36.520 --> 0:24:41.120
<v Speaker 1>as far as like cooking up with with men um, Well,

0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 1>at the time, I was living, um in a different place.

0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't living in the city at the time, and

0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:50.760
<v Speaker 1>that made it a little harder because it was like a, yeah,

0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:55.199
<v Speaker 1>it was harder to meet people period um. Once I

0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:59.119
<v Speaker 1>came here. Then I would go to like adult bookstores

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:00.879
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that and try to hook up with

0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:04.200
<v Speaker 1>people too. And that ship was just like, oh my god,

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:06.479
<v Speaker 1>you're freaking me out. I walked in to get some

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:09.359
<v Speaker 1>stuff at this one place and um not like it's

0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:11.560
<v Speaker 1>called Gotham something like a bookstore and they have the

0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:13.960
<v Speaker 1>viewing booths. Yeah. So I was in there for like

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe three minutes just getting like whatever. It was four

0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:23.119
<v Speaker 1>people in less than five minutes, I'm serious, asked me,

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:24.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't ask me. They didn't think I was a hooker.

0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:26.480
<v Speaker 1>They asked me how much I cost. They just invited

0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:28.520
<v Speaker 1>me in the booth with them. Yeah, so it works.

0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:30.400
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't know it was like the meeting place

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and so you went to those Yeah, specifically for sex,

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:36.040
<v Speaker 1>but do other people go there for that? Did you

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:39.479
<v Speaker 1>go to brothels places as well? Yeah, so I was

0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:43.439
<v Speaker 1>going to like like sex parties. Um, the sex parties

0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:46.880
<v Speaker 1>are probably great. Yeah, yes, um Bradlows not so much.

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's what's good about the Internet. You can

0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:51.760
<v Speaker 1>find whatever you you need on there, right But um, so,

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:54.720
<v Speaker 1>I guess this is what also led into the financial

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 1>issues you had. Absolutely. Yeah, I was talking about that

0:25:57.640 --> 0:25:59.359
<v Speaker 1>I was spending money and I just didn't have Like

0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 1>when it gets to the point that you're like, Okay,

0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:03.720
<v Speaker 1>I have nothing in the fridge right now. I could

0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:07.960
<v Speaker 1>either spend money on groceries, even if it's like the

0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 1>smallest amount, or spend it on sex and whatever, whatever,

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 1>any anything I could whatever I knew would lead me

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:21.680
<v Speaker 1>to sex quicker. Yeah, so I would be the sort

0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 1>of guy that, like, I would be on my way

0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:28.199
<v Speaker 1>to a date messaging somebody else from Craigslist for a

0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 1>one night stand, and then leaving the date, I would

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 1>be hitting up somebody else like an escort, to like

0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:38.520
<v Speaker 1>meet up later on as I'm on my way to

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:41.399
<v Speaker 1>the Craigslist date. What's the most amount of people or

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:43.360
<v Speaker 1>times you've had sex in a day. In a day,

0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I can't even tell you really more than probably not ten.

0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I guess you don't have enough hours in a day

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:55.960
<v Speaker 1>for the probably like five. Yeah, probably around there, maybe

0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:57.520
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more, a little less. What about when

0:26:57.560 --> 0:26:59.679
<v Speaker 1>you have a girlfriend, do you just want to suck her?

0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:02.160
<v Speaker 1>Like what when this was going on? When you're dating someone,

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:04.439
<v Speaker 1>is it just wanting to suck them like crazy? Or

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:08.679
<v Speaker 1>are you interested in like new pussy? Um it, I

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 1>do want to suck them. But the problem I love.

0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:16.119
<v Speaker 1>I think porn is is a good thing for a

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:18.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of people, but when you have zero self control,

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:21.399
<v Speaker 1>porn could be one of the most damaging things, particularly

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 1>because the way people, particularly men, at least a lot

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 1>of the men that I know, consumed porn, which is,

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 1>you don't just watch one porn and then you're like, great,

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:33.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm done. Non you open up like thirty tabs and

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 1>then you watch like some of this one and some

0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 1>of that one, some of that one. And what that

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:39.680
<v Speaker 1>does is it conditions the brain to always find something new.

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:42.199
<v Speaker 1>So it's interesting. I want to ask you what you

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:43.960
<v Speaker 1>think of this. Um You've probably heard me say the

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:46.399
<v Speaker 1>name Jeeves, Yes, Jeeves, and I watched a lot of

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 1>porn together, and he told me he's been really happy

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 1>about that because an X of his was very upset

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 1>that he watched porn, and I guess because she was

0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 1>a feminist, and she said that it was really fucking

0:27:57.359 --> 0:28:01.119
<v Speaker 1>up his way of thinking how sex should be. Now,

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:03.359
<v Speaker 1>how do you feel about that? Do you think porn

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:07.240
<v Speaker 1>made you think your sex need to be crazier? For

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 1>me personally, But I can't speak to what he was

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 1>doing because I know, look, everybody, most people have sex,

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:17.240
<v Speaker 1>and not everybody is a sex addict, and some people

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:19.880
<v Speaker 1>just like to have kinky or sex or I want

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:21.880
<v Speaker 1>to try things that they watch in porn, which I mean,

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I know I've done quite a lot. I think looking

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 1>at there's a time where I think porn can As

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:29.240
<v Speaker 1>much as I don't agree with her to the point

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 1>that you don't want him to watch it, I can

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 1>understand that. Yeah, it's understandable, just like any because that's

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:37.320
<v Speaker 1>where you learn kink your ship. Yeah, any anything could

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 1>be addictive like that though, I mean, like, look, just

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>like the same way something we could drink alcohol right now,

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 1>but none of us is gonna get fucking plastered, right Well,

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't know what. Yeah, yeah, I have

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 1>a friend right now who's dealing with alcoholism, and I

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>feel bad because I'm a woman who also likes to drink.

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 1>So I feel like I'm enabling his addiction when we're together,

0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:00.760
<v Speaker 1>and it hurts me because I literally know like I'm

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>his stopping point because I know he would continue if

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 1>we were together, if we weren't together, and so it

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 1>just sucks. So Weezy brought up, um, how you go

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 1>about dealing with this with a girlfriend. So do you have,

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 1>um a story to share about how your addiction may

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 1>be ruined a past relationship or what happened with that relationship.

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I would say, Uh, It's only been a couple of

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:27.760
<v Speaker 1>years that I've been like sexually sober, not that long

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 1>at all. Um, wait, you're not sucking right now. I

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 1>didn't say I wasn't sucking. I just said that I'm

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 1>sexually sober, meaning like I feel in control of my

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 1>sexual desires. I'm not running through people NonStop. And uh,

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 1>one other thing about sexual addictions, you usually feel bad

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 1>about the sexual choices that you make after and right

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 1>now I'm at a place where I don't feel bad

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 1>about right That's good. Yeah, it's like in moderation, you

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 1>go to have a drink once you're over the alcoholism.

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel bad about it or do you feel

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:58.600
<v Speaker 1>like you're in control? Yeah? Yeah, I liken it to depression,

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:03.080
<v Speaker 1>like everybody's felt bad, but uh not everyone is depressed.

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure you know everyone has made poor life

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 1>choices involving sex. But it did. And it may even

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 1>be semi habitual. But if it's like one of these

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 1>things that's like I feel like I can't stop it,

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 1>then it's this is an addiction. I know I might

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>be addicted in sex addiction. Do you think it had

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:27.640
<v Speaker 1>to do with some of the sex you had alone?

0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Like would you would you be satisfied if you jerked

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>off a few times a night, or would you feel

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 1>like eventually you had to suck somebody? Uh? Definitely I

0:30:35.920 --> 0:30:37.719
<v Speaker 1>would feel like I had to suck somebody, like like

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 1>if so that can help? Okay? No, no, no, because

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I would. I've heard people say like, oh, if you're

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:45.479
<v Speaker 1>gonna like meet somebody, you really don't want to suck them,

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 1>just jerk off beforehand. I'm like that. I mean, I'm

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 1>actually Rory just said that in the last and I

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 1>was like, I wish you know, I'm either or. So

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 1>there's sometimes where like if I think I'm going to

0:30:57.680 --> 0:30:59.240
<v Speaker 1>suck someone right and I'm like, I kind of don't

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>want to. I'll jerk. Often it's okay, but then there's

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 1>some moments where I touched myself and now I want

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:06.400
<v Speaker 1>it more. Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, No, I get that.

0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 1>I get that. Um. I'm sure for some people that

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 1>works like a charm on the time, But for me,

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 1>do you last long? High? Last too long? I actually do.

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 1>So It's not only coming from porn possibly and masturbation, No,

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I have so if I'm having sex with somebody, I

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 1>at a certain point when I know that they've gotten

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>whatever they need, I'm like, okay, now I'm gonna put

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 1>you over here and I'm gonna with my ego so hard.

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:40.240
<v Speaker 1>The last time you came from sex years, not definitely,

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 1>not years, I can't remember. Yeah, probably. So have you

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:52.480
<v Speaker 1>ever used like a sensitizer typing? Does that help? And

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I'm I'm so afraid of using ship like

0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 1>that on my dick, like chemicals, Like the most that

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:01.240
<v Speaker 1>I'll do is like like a cock ring or something

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 1>like that. But then and that helps that actually helps

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 1>it helps keep you hard or helps you come. It

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>helps me to, Yeah, it'll help me come. It help

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>me come and keep me hard, because that's another thing.

0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 1>That's another thing that some guys can try if they

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 1>are having maybe that issue. There's a bunch of good

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Silicon co. I'm really interested because like, you were able

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 1>to have sex with so many people and you're attractive,

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:30.960
<v Speaker 1>but like, what would you do? You are was your

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 1>dick on Craigslist? Like how would you get them to say? Yes?

0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, was your dick on Craigslist? I wonder, like,

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm thinking and even day like, yeah, that's

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 1>what I want. So I was what was it that

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:48.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's because you are good looking? Did you make

0:32:48.760 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 1>an ad saying that you were a sexual addict that

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:53.200
<v Speaker 1>needed his cravings fix? Like? What were your ad? Sure

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 1>that probably could have worked. See here's the thing. I

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 1>never made the ad. I would reach out to other

0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>you reach out. I made an AD like maybe like twice,

0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 1>and that ship was like god, damn, too many emails

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 1>right now? Yeah, yeah, it's it feels better to be

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>able to kind of pick and choose. I wish we

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>would have done that before Craigslist was gone, Like, I

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 1>wish we could have found people on Craigslist. I feel

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:16.680
<v Speaker 1>like that would have been But I mean, I feel

0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 1>like we have so many dating apps now maybe you

0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 1>could just there's on that episode, yeah, like she matched

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 1>with him and was like, hey, um, I know we matched,

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>but I really just want to bring it onto my podcast.

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>By the way, I do that with a lot of

0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 1>couples I matched with, Like, I don't really me I've

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>never met a couple online. Am I selling the truth?

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 1>What are you know? But I'm just like I'm saying, like,

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 1>if I'm swiping on Bumble or Tender and there's a couple,

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll swipe him right and say, can I interview you?

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 1>But I wanted to ask you a question. So we

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of homemail in our email right now

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 1>pertaining to the same topic. So if this pertains to

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 1>you guys, hopefully you know. I just know we read it.

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:53.320
<v Speaker 1>But a lot of people are complaining about boring sex

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 1>or not getting enough sex because maybe their partner isn't

0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 1>a sexually craving as them. At any point in time.

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 1>With your sexual addiction and being in a relationship, have

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:06.480
<v Speaker 1>you ever felt a woman take advantage of your sexual addiction?

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 1>And how did they do that? Because to me, I'd

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:12.839
<v Speaker 1>be mad if a nigga only sucks me one time

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:14.799
<v Speaker 1>and then he's a one time hitter and quitter and

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>done it other addict not knowingly? Okay, but I was

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 1>in a relationship with someone that definitely took advantage. And

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 1>how did she take advantage of you? She she just

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:29.480
<v Speaker 1>knew that I always wanted it and needed it, so

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:32.000
<v Speaker 1>she would use that as leverage to make me do

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 1>or to make me to uh, to have me allow

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:38.440
<v Speaker 1>her to do? Ship? Wait? What like? What to give

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:42.520
<v Speaker 1>us an example? Uh, I'll I should start off by

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:45.319
<v Speaker 1>saying that neither of us were good in this relationship

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:48.319
<v Speaker 1>like we like saying buy me things, or like if

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 1>you don't do this, like um, pick me up, take

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:53.719
<v Speaker 1>me here. It was a lot of just uh, if

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:55.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't do this, then I'm going to suck somebody

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>else instead of you, like that sort of thing. And

0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 1>because I was an idiot and because I needed it

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:03.399
<v Speaker 1>so much, even though I knew that I could suck

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:06.759
<v Speaker 1>other people, I wanted her to like. That's another thing

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 1>well I could say, particularly with me, is that like

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:11.840
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't enough to just have sex. I need to

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 1>have sex with as many people as I could possibly

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:16.560
<v Speaker 1>have at any point in time. What's those people that

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:19.839
<v Speaker 1>you sucked in one time? Or like, like how many?

0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:22.520
<v Speaker 1>How many people that I have at one time? Not

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 1>one day? And group sex? Uh, I didn't count. Wait,

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 1>it was that many people? Well it was like a

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 1>sex party. So it was and like everybody was kind

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 1>of doing stuff with each other all at the same time.

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 1>You know what, I really want to know what we're

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 1>going there? When you got your first STD because I

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 1>know it. Yes, how did that make you want to stop?

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean everything everything? Did it made me want to stop? Yeah? Yeah?

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, I was like, fuck, it's

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 1>like it's not going to I knew I was talking

0:35:57.600 --> 0:36:01.239
<v Speaker 1>to someone that there's a guy. I know, he's an

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 1>entertainer for friends, he's got a girl, he has a

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:06.279
<v Speaker 1>few girl friends, and you just got a chlamydia and

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I you don't have to write his name now. But

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:15.279
<v Speaker 1>he said to me like, oh my god, dude, it

0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 1>got lamydia. I can't suck my girl for the next

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 1>five days. I'm like, nigga, you goot to keep digging

0:36:18.960 --> 0:36:22.279
<v Speaker 1>Fans and He's like, why it's a pill. Can you wait? Wait?

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:25.200
<v Speaker 1>But can you funk with chlamydia with a condom though? Like,

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 1>is it still transferable with a condom? Or I believe.

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 1>I believe with the condom you'll you'll be safe. But

0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean too, I think only harpies because that's the

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:34.279
<v Speaker 1>only thing that's on the outside. It's not that you

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 1>can climb through a condom. But you have to remember this, right,

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:39.359
<v Speaker 1>Your condom is not always going to completely cover the back,

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:42.719
<v Speaker 1>absolutely right, And so if it's like if you have

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:45.000
<v Speaker 1>pre come and it's coming like you're mixing fluids, that's

0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:47.720
<v Speaker 1>what it comes. I thought. Chlamydia though, was in your fluid,

0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:51.719
<v Speaker 1>not on the skin. So if you technically fluid is

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 1>being transferred, okay, okay, okay. And even if a woman

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:57.279
<v Speaker 1>has it, let's say that your juices get inside of

0:36:57.280 --> 0:37:00.880
<v Speaker 1>his inside the condom. Yeah, I feel a part of like,

0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 1>as as great as medicine is, it in this way

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:07.239
<v Speaker 1>hurts a lot of people that have this mentality that like, oh,

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:11.040
<v Speaker 1>if it's so easily curable, then there there's there's barely

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 1>any consequences. I don't funk for like a day or

0:37:13.120 --> 0:37:15.319
<v Speaker 1>two whatever. I just take this pill gives me a

0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:17.279
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a stomach ache, take like a rig

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 1>running ship for a little bit, and then after that,

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm good to go. Just once. Actually, actually I'm sorry.

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:28.719
<v Speaker 1>I had it once. It was a comedian. Yeah I

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>had it, and then uh me and this girl like

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I got it, and then she got it and then

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 1>again yeah yeah. Um. But anyway, let me get back

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>to what you were saying about this girl that, yes,

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 1>how did she take advantage? She would just use that

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:47.000
<v Speaker 1>all the time to be like if, like, say, she

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:48.880
<v Speaker 1>was in school at the time, she'd be like, yo,

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 1>if you don't drive down here to see me this weekend,

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:53.880
<v Speaker 1>then you know, I don't know what I'm gonna do,

0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:55.960
<v Speaker 1>basically implying that she was going to suck somebody, and

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:58.520
<v Speaker 1>she would. And what made it worse is that she

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:01.719
<v Speaker 1>had some at ship friends that, you know, they were

0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 1>in shitty relationships too, so they would encourage her to

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 1>do shitty things. I'm not saying that my circle of

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:10.880
<v Speaker 1>friends were any better at the time. They were just

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:15.000
<v Speaker 1>as shitty. But you know, it's something that I just

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:18.360
<v Speaker 1>bought into, and that's actually what led to me losing

0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:20.400
<v Speaker 1>my job. That's what I was going to ask next

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:24.359
<v Speaker 1>because some people may still be listening, and like, I mean,

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:26.760
<v Speaker 1>I suk a lot of bitches I've called an STD

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I did this? Am I a sex attic? Two? So

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:32.879
<v Speaker 1>your sexual addiction actually led to you losing your job?

0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 1>How does that happen? All right? So I was working

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 1>at a mixed martial arts gym in upstate, New York.

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 1>And uh, at the time, that girl she came in

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 1>my my girlfriend after I was like cleaning up everything,

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 1>and this was like he had just upgraded from the

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:51.640
<v Speaker 1>owner of the gym, upgraded from like a smaller gym

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:54.240
<v Speaker 1>to a much nicer facility. I'm sorry, are you gonna

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:56.319
<v Speaker 1>tell you you just sucked her on like a nice

0:38:56.360 --> 0:39:00.399
<v Speaker 1>part of the gym in the new luxury bathroom or gym.

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:03.280
<v Speaker 1>You just got caught your job? Why I didn't explain

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 1>that it was a new gym, Just tell me that.

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Why did you need to explain that it was an

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 1>upgraded gym, because it was just something that was like

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:12.160
<v Speaker 1>he had so much pride in and wait, wait did

0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 1>he see you on camerah No no no, no, no, okay,

0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 1>so he went no, no, no, no, no, no, I

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:20.319
<v Speaker 1>got caught because, uh, we were wearing a condom and

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 1>I threw the condom out in the garbage. It was

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:32.160
<v Speaker 1>the smart because I just felt bad. So they found

0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:36.280
<v Speaker 1>the condom and then he, y, you admitted it to it. Yeah,

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:41.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, because that's part of them. So another one

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 1>of the guys that that worked there, he was cleaning

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:45.560
<v Speaker 1>out the garbage like before, like we had like a

0:39:45.600 --> 0:39:47.279
<v Speaker 1>staff and he was cleaning out the guarden beforehand, and

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:49.239
<v Speaker 1>he found the condom and he brought it to the

0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:53.360
<v Speaker 1>head coaches attention and he, you know, said like, yo,

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:55.880
<v Speaker 1>who I need to know who did this? And I

0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:58.839
<v Speaker 1>was I just felt so racked with guilt already from

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:01.560
<v Speaker 1>just doing something that I knew I shouldn't have done,

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:04.359
<v Speaker 1>and compound that with like the guilt from just being

0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:08.200
<v Speaker 1>a sex addict and then also desecrating this guy's brand

0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:10.880
<v Speaker 1>new gym. So I was just like, yeah, that was me.

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, all right, your keys, get the funk out.

0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:16.439
<v Speaker 1>So you say you're sexually sober, now, are you clocked out?

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I was off the clock. Yeah, I still say you

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 1>should have kept your dot. But you say you're sexually sober. Now,

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:27.840
<v Speaker 1>what is the process of recovery and how do you

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:32.800
<v Speaker 1>go about having a relationship now. So there's a lot

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:36.839
<v Speaker 1>of things that can that can be Um. I know

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 1>there's there's a s A A meeting sex Addicts Anonymous.

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:43.160
<v Speaker 1>I tried going to that for me. It didn't really work. Okay,

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, so there is just like you know, alcohol anonymous,

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:52.640
<v Speaker 1>alcohol alcoholics Anonymous, and a narcotics okay, and so there

0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 1>is a sexual addiction place to go. Yeah. I went

0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 1>to an A meeting recently to go with a friend

0:40:58.200 --> 0:40:59.959
<v Speaker 1>for the first time, and there was a few set

0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:03.600
<v Speaker 1>statics in there. Yeah, and that's that's actually yeah, that's

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 1>actually something else that A lot of people that are

0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 1>sex addicts also have substance abuse to which like compounds

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 1>the problem. There was a girl that was saying she

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:16.800
<v Speaker 1>was addicted to cocaine. I was trying not to do cocaine,

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:19.439
<v Speaker 1>but when she does cocaine, then she gets her sex

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 1>addiction that pops out and she's like, then the two

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:24.160
<v Speaker 1>of them go around for days because she's so tired

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:26.759
<v Speaker 1>when she's sucking, so she'll do more cocaine to say

0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:30.359
<v Speaker 1>to keep sucking. And it's a cycle or alcohol the

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:34.760
<v Speaker 1>same thing. It's they don't have the balls to yeah, damn,

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 1>shout out to m YPD. Right, I guess they don't

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:40.000
<v Speaker 1>do drug tests. Well, I guess coke also comes out

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 1>of your system in two days, So she find me safe. Yeah,

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 1>we just really the only drugs now legal that stays

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 1>in like thirty Let me tell you how she'd be

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:49.480
<v Speaker 1>known in real life. So, I when I got this

0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:52.200
<v Speaker 1>new job, I was like, damn, I can't think of

0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:53.440
<v Speaker 1>the last time I smoked me. There was a few

0:41:53.480 --> 0:41:55.520
<v Speaker 1>days ago, blah blah, blah blah blah. So I google

0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:57.680
<v Speaker 1>drugs and when they come out of your system, weed,

0:41:57.760 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 1>which is the most basic of all that comes out

0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:04.600
<v Speaker 1>thirty day days. Meth and heroin and cocaine was like

0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:09.319
<v Speaker 1>five five days max. Yeah. Where literally? Um, okay, So

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:13.640
<v Speaker 1>you've gone to therapy, and so did you find therapy

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:16.840
<v Speaker 1>to actually help you with recovery? One on one therapy?

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Individual therapy was like probably one of the best things

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:21.239
<v Speaker 1>that I couldn't done in therapy. Make your horny listen

0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 1>to the stories. Well, they're they're very smart. Where they

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 1>say please don't make anything explicit at all, they make that,

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Well I would hear some good because that material, I guess. Yeah,

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:36.759
<v Speaker 1>but you know for people that are trying to keep

0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:41.480
<v Speaker 1>their ship together. I didn't talk about this because I

0:42:41.480 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't want anyone to guess who it was. But I

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 1>did go to an a a meeting with a friend

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:47.840
<v Speaker 1>who needed it. And while they're they're the sex sattics,

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I told their stories. I was kind of getting like, yeah,

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 1>turned on, so I could see how actually let me

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:58.520
<v Speaker 1>just to bring it back to that abusive relationship. Um one,

0:42:59.840 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I feel just ashamed just even saying this, and y'all,

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:08.279
<v Speaker 1>I know you're gonna respond pretty strongly. So I had

0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 1>never told this girl about being sexually abused until like

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 1>pretty late in the relationship. And when we did, we

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:16.959
<v Speaker 1>were at her college dorm. It was just us there

0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 1>and when I did it, she got turned on. And

0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 1>that should have been like the biggest red flag to me,

0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 1>just to be like, I told her the story and

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 1>she got wet as hell, you know, like she was

0:43:29.000 --> 0:43:32.560
<v Speaker 1>just like, I'm really turned when I when I told her,

0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 1>When when I I might have been like first grades,

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:40.120
<v Speaker 1>you know what. Okay, that's gonna leave me to actually

0:43:40.160 --> 0:43:43.040
<v Speaker 1>share a story because you saying that it makes me

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 1>feel bad. It makes me feel bad because I talked

0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:48.759
<v Speaker 1>to a guy who experienced the same thing, and I

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:51.560
<v Speaker 1>used to want him to tell me about what happened.

0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 1>So I know, I feel really bad because I know.

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:58.279
<v Speaker 1>So basically, I was talking to a guy and he

0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:00.920
<v Speaker 1>had been in the NBA and went to overseas, but

0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:03.319
<v Speaker 1>he was into He actually opened up to me that

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:07.960
<v Speaker 1>he would find trans and men on Craigslist. So I

0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:10.560
<v Speaker 1>was trying to understand where this came from. So he

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:12.840
<v Speaker 1>had let me know that when he was young he

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:17.960
<v Speaker 1>was in trans women and men, so he would, um,

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:20.000
<v Speaker 1>he let me know that he would be on like

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:22.560
<v Speaker 1>the back in the day was the message boards. So

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:24.239
<v Speaker 1>he said that he was on a message board and

0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:26.839
<v Speaker 1>thought he had met a girl around his age. So

0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:30.160
<v Speaker 1>he ended up going to this person and it wasn't

0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:32.280
<v Speaker 1>a little girl his age. It was actually a grown

0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:37.040
<v Speaker 1>man and the grown man would play with his dick.

0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:39.080
<v Speaker 1>And at this point he didn't know if it was

0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:41.279
<v Speaker 1>right around like it was online dating it was. He

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't know. Um when that happened, he said he was thirteen.

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 1>He was thirteen, So he was being fondled with this

0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:52.120
<v Speaker 1>guy and it later would move into not only would

0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:53.759
<v Speaker 1>he be playing with him, then he would ask him

0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:56.800
<v Speaker 1>to play with him. He had never had been fucked

0:44:56.880 --> 0:45:01.520
<v Speaker 1>annally at this point. However, Um, this guy would play

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:04.840
<v Speaker 1>with his genitals. Fast forward, when he got to college,

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:07.399
<v Speaker 1>there was a bathroom and I'll go ahead and say

0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:11.440
<v Speaker 1>at the University of Memphis where uh you know, but

0:45:11.760 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 1>so there's a bathroom where guys could go in and

0:45:14.239 --> 0:45:17.799
<v Speaker 1>get their dick sucked by other guys on campus. So

0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:21.319
<v Speaker 1>it happened right Well, there was a professor in there

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 1>and saw him, and so the professor actually from seeing

0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:31.560
<v Speaker 1>him kind of threatened his grade and actually then forced

0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:35.720
<v Speaker 1>him to perform oral sex on him at the school.

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:39.360
<v Speaker 1>And then fast forward to even that, then he found

0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:42.040
<v Speaker 1>out woods where you can go and get your dick sucked.

0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:44.040
<v Speaker 1>And now it's kind of like an addiction for him

0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 1>to where he deals with men in secrecy. But it

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:50.240
<v Speaker 1>all stems from him being you know, molested all these times.

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:52.279
<v Speaker 1>And I, yeah, I used to want him to tell

0:45:52.280 --> 0:45:54.160
<v Speaker 1>me how it happened, what he did to you and

0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:56.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of relive it. But I also feel like it

0:45:56.719 --> 0:45:58.440
<v Speaker 1>was therapeutic for him because it was things that he

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:01.640
<v Speaker 1>had never told anyone else. Um, and that ship the

0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 1>cruising spots like gay cruising spots like that ship is

0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:07.600
<v Speaker 1>like just the subculture around that, it's like ridiculous, just

0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 1>like likes gay cruising. So there's the thing. I think

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I've talked about it on the on the show before

0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:17.120
<v Speaker 1>where one of my gaze was coming in town. Any googles,

0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:20.440
<v Speaker 1>you call them your my gays, they're mine. They have

0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:23.640
<v Speaker 1>other women, they're friends, but like they're mine. How very

0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:33.240
<v Speaker 1>trump of you ship? You know what means? My husband?

0:46:35.680 --> 0:46:40.799
<v Speaker 1>I hate you, bro. I'm gonna let this one. There

0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 1>are a lot of places that I want to go

0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:43.640
<v Speaker 1>right now, but I won't because I'll be nice as

0:46:43.680 --> 0:46:47.480
<v Speaker 1>you are a guest that brought us rose. But yes,

0:46:47.600 --> 0:46:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll shut up. Um So, yeah, my gays, my girls,

0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:53.640
<v Speaker 1>my guys. So my guys coming down and they're like, bitch,

0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:56.200
<v Speaker 1>we're going on this site. We've been hearing about it,

0:46:56.239 --> 0:46:58.120
<v Speaker 1>and it's where you can find gyms in New York

0:46:58.160 --> 0:47:01.200
<v Speaker 1>to get your dick suck. Yeah, that's so. Like I

0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 1>googled gay steam rooms, just like googled it, and like

0:47:05.280 --> 0:47:07.520
<v Speaker 1>there's a whole fucking sight that comes up that will

0:47:07.520 --> 0:47:10.200
<v Speaker 1>just tell you all the spots to go. One of them, specifically,

0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:16.120
<v Speaker 1>is the Financial District. Equinox said, yes, in general, just

0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:18.200
<v Speaker 1>like so we went, we paid the day path. You're

0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:19.480
<v Speaker 1>going to go to the gym. No, mall, don't go

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:22.520
<v Speaker 1>to gym and Chelsea. That happen. They're sucking cock. They're

0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:25.600
<v Speaker 1>sucking dick and Chelsea. Okay, see, none of my niggas

0:47:25.600 --> 0:47:27.160
<v Speaker 1>could go to the gym. Now you better go play

0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:29.759
<v Speaker 1>basketball on the court where everybody. But here's the thing.

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Benny used to tell me a story. And Benny was, um,

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:33.879
<v Speaker 1>one of my best friends you've out on the show.

0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I was telling him about It's like, is this true

0:47:35.920 --> 0:47:37.399
<v Speaker 1>with the steam rooms? He's like, girl, yeah, Like why

0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:39.920
<v Speaker 1>else do you think I were? Yeah, but it's not

0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:42.880
<v Speaker 1>even just that circle jerks, like people don't want to

0:47:42.880 --> 0:47:45.560
<v Speaker 1>be watched everything. Yeah, yeah, for real, there's but it's

0:47:45.600 --> 0:47:48.400
<v Speaker 1>not even just Jim's though, Like there's like public parks.

0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to like like say the names of everything,

0:47:51.000 --> 0:47:53.839
<v Speaker 1>because like I feel like, you know, just one part,

0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:57.640
<v Speaker 1>one part, like how would it go, Like a bench

0:47:57.640 --> 0:47:59.440
<v Speaker 1>at a park, like a location, and they're like an

0:47:59.560 --> 0:48:01.719
<v Speaker 1>under a certain tree you can get your dick. No, no,

0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:03.560
<v Speaker 1>it's not that I'm talking about the whole park. Like

0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:05.799
<v Speaker 1>you can go to specific parks at specific time, which

0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:08.719
<v Speaker 1>dudes like walking you. I don't want to go see

0:48:08.719 --> 0:48:13.680
<v Speaker 1>somebody getting dicksa what's that parking? In? Like? Way, there

0:48:13.680 --> 0:48:17.279
<v Speaker 1>you go. I'm not Washington Square and Central you know,

0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:18.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go all the way to die.

0:48:18.680 --> 0:48:21.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure. I'm sure there's probably cruising going on in

0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Central Parks. I'm sure Washington Square is a little smaller,

0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:26.879
<v Speaker 1>probably that it probably isn't happening. I'm sure I don't

0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:30.680
<v Speaker 1>get fingered in Washington Square Park. I tried to know

0:48:30.800 --> 0:48:32.880
<v Speaker 1>the guy before, and did you just like, yeah, oh

0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:36.880
<v Speaker 1>my god, remember that time those twin basketball players, remember

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:41.239
<v Speaker 1>white guys. Of course they were friends. But no, it's

0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:44.040
<v Speaker 1>crazy because I tried to circumcise. Of course they're all

0:48:45.960 --> 0:48:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to fulfill the stereotype from the bar.

0:48:50.440 --> 0:48:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Weren't you the one that was saying that you don't

0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:56.080
<v Speaker 1>that's me. I don't like turtleneck. Okay, she likes the skin.

0:48:56.440 --> 0:48:59.440
<v Speaker 1>She she knows like the sensitivity that discriminatory from what

0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:01.640
<v Speaker 1>you guys might think. I've read so many things about me, like,

0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:07.239
<v Speaker 1>oh funk, you maybe like that it feels like a

0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:11.200
<v Speaker 1>shake weight something. Yeah he was, Yes, I said like

0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:13.480
<v Speaker 1>uncircumcised dick feels like a shake weight, like you know

0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:16.120
<v Speaker 1>when you're shaking the skin just be moving. It's really

0:49:16.160 --> 0:49:19.040
<v Speaker 1>really different, Like it's all different types of it could

0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:20.360
<v Speaker 1>either be a lot, could neither be a little. It

0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:22.080
<v Speaker 1>could be a total sharp pay not. It's like a

0:49:22.120 --> 0:49:25.799
<v Speaker 1>popsicle with a surprise you. Well, look, I am circumcised,

0:49:25.840 --> 0:49:28.839
<v Speaker 1>but I do feel like the stigma that we have

0:49:28.880 --> 0:49:32.240
<v Speaker 1>culturally about uncircumcised dicks is kind of sucked up because

0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:37.160
<v Speaker 1>it is everywhere. Yeah it is. Well, it's crazy. It's

0:49:37.160 --> 0:49:39.120
<v Speaker 1>crazy because you said that, because I actually wanted to

0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:43.879
<v Speaker 1>get um into our homemiale for the episode that um, well,

0:49:43.960 --> 0:49:45.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm reading too, but I didn't want to read that

0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:48.480
<v Speaker 1>because my friend actually is offering her free therapy for that.

0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:51.120
<v Speaker 1>So I'm awesome because the girl that wrote that question

0:49:51.120 --> 0:49:53.080
<v Speaker 1>in and I have been d m. Yeah, so I'm

0:49:53.080 --> 0:49:55.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna ask one before we get to that. But for

0:49:55.800 --> 0:49:59.839
<v Speaker 1>the homemale for this episode, the subject line says by

0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:02.120
<v Speaker 1>sexual or gay, and I thought that this was a

0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:04.400
<v Speaker 1>good question that maybe you can hone in on specifically

0:50:04.440 --> 0:50:07.640
<v Speaker 1>because you identify as straight. So it says, hey, Mandy

0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:09.960
<v Speaker 1>and wheezy, I just recently started listening to the podcast

0:50:10.080 --> 0:50:13.560
<v Speaker 1>via SoundCloud. I'm totally loving the show. I have this

0:50:13.680 --> 0:50:17.000
<v Speaker 1>curiosity since two thousand thirteen New Year's Eve when this

0:50:17.040 --> 0:50:24.560
<v Speaker 1>guy who happened and that's th New Year's Eve, when

0:50:24.560 --> 0:50:29.440
<v Speaker 1>this guy I've been kind of five years and I

0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:32.279
<v Speaker 1>need to know, um he said, when this guy who

0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:35.319
<v Speaker 1>happened to be bisexual started kissing me and one thing

0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:38.160
<v Speaker 1>led to another due to the fact that I was drunk.

0:50:38.400 --> 0:50:41.040
<v Speaker 1>All I remember is him on top of me trying

0:50:41.080 --> 0:50:43.520
<v Speaker 1>to get my dick inside of his booty hole, but

0:50:43.560 --> 0:50:46.400
<v Speaker 1>it was not getting any hard. So in the morning

0:50:46.600 --> 0:50:49.040
<v Speaker 1>it was whatever. I guess that means in the morning

0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:50.920
<v Speaker 1>it was hard for morning Wood. I don't know. He

0:50:50.960 --> 0:50:54.680
<v Speaker 1>doesn't he doesn't classify. So ever, since then, I've been

0:50:54.680 --> 0:50:58.400
<v Speaker 1>looking up gay porn and it gets me hard as fuck.

0:50:58.960 --> 0:51:02.879
<v Speaker 1>I've tried giving head and getting a cock in my ask.

0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:07.759
<v Speaker 1>It was not nice and uncomfortable, but I enjoy getting

0:51:07.840 --> 0:51:10.880
<v Speaker 1>head from guys. I've never sucked a guy before, but

0:51:10.920 --> 0:51:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I would like to try. I fucked chicks and I

0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:17.759
<v Speaker 1>love that. So my curiosity is, does watching gay porn?

0:51:18.000 --> 0:51:21.239
<v Speaker 1>Does watching gay porn and getting head from guys make

0:51:21.360 --> 0:51:24.040
<v Speaker 1>me gay or buy it's crazy because I know, I

0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:28.840
<v Speaker 1>know all these niggas listening for real gay, but but

0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:34.439
<v Speaker 1>what would you say? How how should he classify? Because

0:51:34.480 --> 0:51:38.480
<v Speaker 1>clearly I feel like he's having a psychological malfunction with

0:51:38.760 --> 0:51:40.920
<v Speaker 1>how he should identify. Now, well, I'm gonna say, first

0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:45.080
<v Speaker 1>of all, I know that all those like ultra hetero listeners,

0:51:45.320 --> 0:51:47.520
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna discount whatever I say, because I already said

0:51:47.520 --> 0:51:49.600
<v Speaker 1>that I've had sexual and college with a man. Of

0:51:49.600 --> 0:51:52.719
<v Speaker 1>course it's gay as say that as long as you

0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:55.799
<v Speaker 1>know they were. They were mad at me for that

0:51:55.840 --> 0:51:57.959
<v Speaker 1>trans comment where I was like, liking trans women doesn't

0:51:57.960 --> 0:52:01.080
<v Speaker 1>because that's real though I've been with trans women, and like,

0:52:01.239 --> 0:52:03.840
<v Speaker 1>there there's something very specific that y'all said that I

0:52:03.880 --> 0:52:06.960
<v Speaker 1>really really appreciate it, which is, uh, there's a reason

0:52:07.000 --> 0:52:11.799
<v Speaker 1>why gay men aren't attracted, like I said when I

0:52:11.840 --> 0:52:14.799
<v Speaker 1>claimed them my gays have never been with a trans women,

0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:16.880
<v Speaker 1>is because they don't want to. They don't want to

0:52:16.880 --> 0:52:21.200
<v Speaker 1>be a woman, absolutely absolutely, and and uh another thing

0:52:21.200 --> 0:52:24.240
<v Speaker 1>you said that was wrong actually was that most trans

0:52:24.320 --> 0:52:28.560
<v Speaker 1>women are end up being tops escorts, because well, yes

0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:30.920
<v Speaker 1>I did so on average I was reading this, so

0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:34.040
<v Speaker 1>it's not like wrong or right, but from reading articles

0:52:34.640 --> 0:52:39.680
<v Speaker 1>um like confessions of trans women like female escorts generally,

0:52:40.440 --> 0:52:42.839
<v Speaker 1>they said that they're topping because the men are playing

0:52:42.840 --> 0:52:45.279
<v Speaker 1>out of fantasy because they want to be top. That

0:52:45.280 --> 0:52:48.200
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that they would choose to be tops, not choosing,

0:52:48.239 --> 0:52:51.640
<v Speaker 1>but I'm saying the escorts are doing way more topping

0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:54.879
<v Speaker 1>and even in relationships with men that they're starting to date,

0:52:54.920 --> 0:52:57.200
<v Speaker 1>which is why they think they're being bet sized. They're

0:52:57.200 --> 0:52:59.239
<v Speaker 1>doing the topping whether they want to be fucked or not.

0:52:59.680 --> 0:53:04.160
<v Speaker 1>There generally doing topping always either it's couples, heterosexual couples

0:53:04.160 --> 0:53:06.759
<v Speaker 1>that they're sleeping with that want them to top one

0:53:06.800 --> 0:53:10.319
<v Speaker 1>or the other. But it's crazy that you guys say

0:53:10.360 --> 0:53:13.880
<v Speaker 1>that because, um, so I actually went to fairy Tales,

0:53:14.400 --> 0:53:16.720
<v Speaker 1>so we I mentioned this with the with the swinger

0:53:16.960 --> 0:53:20.120
<v Speaker 1>um episode and so it's a trans sexual strip club

0:53:20.400 --> 0:53:23.440
<v Speaker 1>in New York City. So I went there last night,

0:53:23.520 --> 0:53:27.040
<v Speaker 1>and um, it was crazy because of course I've talked

0:53:27.040 --> 0:53:28.320
<v Speaker 1>to them because I was like, I have a podcast,

0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:30.240
<v Speaker 1>I need to know what's going on. So they actually

0:53:30.239 --> 0:53:32.520
<v Speaker 1>said majority of them don't even sleep with women, and

0:53:32.760 --> 0:53:35.359
<v Speaker 1>not many of them are bisexual. They prefer only men.

0:53:35.920 --> 0:53:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Um and all of these straight men because they identify

0:53:39.760 --> 0:53:42.040
<v Speaker 1>as straight. All the straight men that I know who

0:53:42.080 --> 0:53:47.920
<v Speaker 1>have been with trans women, trans trans women, yes, trans women, UM,

0:53:47.960 --> 0:53:51.279
<v Speaker 1>they have topped them. So they have not bottomed a

0:53:51.320 --> 0:53:54.160
<v Speaker 1>trans woman. They've they've been they they've topped them. So

0:53:54.880 --> 0:53:57.359
<v Speaker 1>when I've been with trans women, I've been strictly a top,

0:53:57.520 --> 0:54:00.720
<v Speaker 1>strictly a top. Okay, So I guess for this listener,

0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I would like to say, UM, and it's something that

0:54:03.120 --> 0:54:05.319
<v Speaker 1>we've said often on this show. I don't think you

0:54:05.440 --> 0:54:07.440
<v Speaker 1>have to put yourself into any of these boxes. I

0:54:07.440 --> 0:54:09.520
<v Speaker 1>feel like you're trying to find what box you fit in.

0:54:10.000 --> 0:54:12.399
<v Speaker 1>And if you want to identify a straight, you can.

0:54:12.440 --> 0:54:14.359
<v Speaker 1>If you want to say you're by you can. Um.

0:54:14.400 --> 0:54:16.480
<v Speaker 1>If you want to say you're gay, I wouldn't put

0:54:16.480 --> 0:54:19.000
<v Speaker 1>you in that box because you're still fucking and enjoying women,

0:54:19.360 --> 0:54:23.240
<v Speaker 1>so you're not just a one track mine. But there

0:54:23.280 --> 0:54:27.000
<v Speaker 1>are UM straight men or people men who identify a

0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:29.319
<v Speaker 1>straight that do like their dick suck by men UM,

0:54:29.360 --> 0:54:32.480
<v Speaker 1>and I know quite a lot of them. Actually, UM,

0:54:32.800 --> 0:54:34.560
<v Speaker 1>they won't kiss the man, they won't be intimate with

0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:35.799
<v Speaker 1>the man, they would never date a man, and they

0:54:35.800 --> 0:54:38.319
<v Speaker 1>would never fuck or get fucked. But I know a

0:54:38.320 --> 0:54:41.399
<v Speaker 1>lot of men who enjoy receiving head from other men.

0:54:41.440 --> 0:54:44.959
<v Speaker 1>But the kissing is like the kissing part is Lario

0:54:45.120 --> 0:54:48.920
<v Speaker 1>like saying, I know because because they so my attention.

0:54:48.960 --> 0:54:52.160
<v Speaker 1>It's so weird they bring it. I mean, I mean,

0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:57.920
<v Speaker 1>if you're intimate. But just like I just it's stupid.

0:54:57.960 --> 0:55:00.200
<v Speaker 1>You're getting your dick sacked by a dude, so what

0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:01.839
<v Speaker 1>do you even kiss him? Now we're gonna be more mad.

0:55:01.880 --> 0:55:04.239
<v Speaker 1>You're sharing bluntwin niggas, Like, I don't even understand. This

0:55:04.360 --> 0:55:06.799
<v Speaker 1>is so stupid and I'm so tired of all y'all

0:55:06.840 --> 0:55:10.680
<v Speaker 1>need to fucking figure out what you are. It's not necessary.

0:55:10.719 --> 0:55:13.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think there's something important about Like it's

0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:17.440
<v Speaker 1>I hear people say like, oh, labels are limiting and

0:55:17.480 --> 0:55:20.680
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. Well, labels also just help you identify shit.

0:55:20.800 --> 0:55:22.799
<v Speaker 1>If you went to the to the supermarket you want

0:55:22.880 --> 0:55:25.440
<v Speaker 1>to get a fucking box of fucking what are you

0:55:25.440 --> 0:55:29.640
<v Speaker 1>saying just like vegetables to me, Broa, I'm saying whatever,

0:55:30.080 --> 0:55:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Like look the example, imagine you go into the mark

0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:34.680
<v Speaker 1>you want some fucking cinnamon toast crunch, but every box

0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:36.760
<v Speaker 1>of cereal is just a plain white box that says cereal.

0:55:37.040 --> 0:55:40.160
<v Speaker 1>That's when you realize how important labels are. Labels aren't

0:55:40.880 --> 0:55:43.279
<v Speaker 1>because you want the super cereals, you know what I'm saying.

0:55:43.280 --> 0:55:46.960
<v Speaker 1>It's just well, it's important to know that labels can

0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:49.960
<v Speaker 1>be flexible. Labels also are there to help you identify.

0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:53.040
<v Speaker 1>So what culture dictates as gay. I wouldn't say that

0:55:53.040 --> 0:55:56.000
<v Speaker 1>this man is gay. He is somebody that may like

0:55:56.120 --> 0:55:59.439
<v Speaker 1>some things that are are on the on that side

0:55:59.440 --> 0:56:01.759
<v Speaker 1>of the spectrum. But I would say that's more by

0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:04.120
<v Speaker 1>it than anything. But before we get out of here,

0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to read this last home mail. Um. It says, hi, ladies,

0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to ask a request from you both. I

0:56:10.560 --> 0:56:13.080
<v Speaker 1>watched your show and listen to your podcast. Literally I've

0:56:13.080 --> 0:56:16.760
<v Speaker 1>watched all episodes. I'm from a very strict Muslim slash

0:56:16.800 --> 0:56:19.440
<v Speaker 1>African family. But the more I've listened to you both,

0:56:19.680 --> 0:56:22.160
<v Speaker 1>the more I've started to look at sex and more importantly,

0:56:22.200 --> 0:56:25.280
<v Speaker 1>myself a lot differently. Just a little background about myself.

0:56:25.320 --> 0:56:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm a teacher, studied in California and now live in London.

0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I've been a virgin up to the age of twenty six,

0:56:32.200 --> 0:56:35.680
<v Speaker 1>and I've had f g M, which is female genital mutilation,

0:56:35.840 --> 0:56:38.600
<v Speaker 1>which is interesting because we just talked about um circumcision

0:56:38.600 --> 0:56:42.759
<v Speaker 1>being mutilization. This is the partial or complete removal of

0:56:42.800 --> 0:56:46.640
<v Speaker 1>the clip. Therefore, I have no clip, nothing, not a

0:56:46.719 --> 0:56:49.359
<v Speaker 1>and those have exclamation points after them. I don't know

0:56:49.400 --> 0:56:51.439
<v Speaker 1>how to be comfortable with men in bed. And I've

0:56:51.480 --> 0:56:54.399
<v Speaker 1>never orgasm in my life, never, which is crazy because

0:56:54.400 --> 0:56:56.719
<v Speaker 1>we had someone right in saying they couldn't stop orgasm.

0:56:56.960 --> 0:56:59.640
<v Speaker 1>So pick which you know, end of the sword you

0:56:59.760 --> 0:57:02.040
<v Speaker 1>like to fall on. It hurts me to write this,

0:57:02.080 --> 0:57:04.359
<v Speaker 1>but it's true. I don't know how it feels like.

0:57:04.760 --> 0:57:06.880
<v Speaker 1>And when I watch you guys talk about sex, I

0:57:06.920 --> 0:57:09.200
<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm living through you guys. So wanted to

0:57:09.239 --> 0:57:11.919
<v Speaker 1>say thank you so much. Your show means a lot

0:57:11.960 --> 0:57:13.960
<v Speaker 1>to a lot of people around the world, and I

0:57:14.000 --> 0:57:15.960
<v Speaker 1>hope you both know this. I wanted to write and

0:57:15.960 --> 0:57:17.800
<v Speaker 1>say thank you so much for writing in it's letters

0:57:17.840 --> 0:57:21.560
<v Speaker 1>like this um that that literally help me and Wheezy

0:57:21.680 --> 0:57:24.280
<v Speaker 1>know that we're in the right path with the trajectory

0:57:24.280 --> 0:57:26.520
<v Speaker 1>of this show and the purpose of this show. I

0:57:26.600 --> 0:57:28.960
<v Speaker 1>also wanted to know that if anyone in New York

0:57:29.040 --> 0:57:33.760
<v Speaker 1>City happens to have female genitalal mutilization and would like

0:57:33.840 --> 0:57:37.600
<v Speaker 1>to come on and speak on it UM mutilization mutilation,

0:57:39.560 --> 0:57:43.640
<v Speaker 1>lation mutilations there AZ, But if any of you guys

0:57:43.680 --> 0:57:45.600
<v Speaker 1>have f GM and would like to come onto the show,

0:57:45.600 --> 0:57:47.800
<v Speaker 1>please reach out to our email at Horrible Decisions at

0:57:47.840 --> 0:57:50.040
<v Speaker 1>gmail dot com. She hit me up via d M

0:57:50.440 --> 0:57:52.760
<v Speaker 1>and she says that she knows a few women, whether

0:57:52.760 --> 0:57:55.440
<v Speaker 1>they're visiting New York or like, knows some in New

0:57:55.480 --> 0:57:57.840
<v Speaker 1>York and I would love to bring them on. So

0:57:58.000 --> 0:58:01.120
<v Speaker 1>following this, UM, the doctor that we both go to

0:58:01.200 --> 0:58:06.840
<v Speaker 1>the guy No, actually called her office and UM got

0:58:06.840 --> 0:58:09.880
<v Speaker 1>her personal email and asked and explained everything was like, Hey,

0:58:09.880 --> 0:58:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to bring someone on. Can you help us

0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:15.040
<v Speaker 1>talk her through this talk about how to have vaginal orgasms?

0:58:15.040 --> 0:58:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Possibly if she's comfortable. Then I had up a sex therapist,

0:58:17.240 --> 0:58:21.280
<v Speaker 1>like only because you know people right in with random

0:58:21.360 --> 0:58:22.960
<v Speaker 1>questions all the time, but I thought this was so

0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:26.080
<v Speaker 1>important and you never know who's listening, And like, can

0:58:26.120 --> 0:58:29.000
<v Speaker 1>you imagine losing your clip? Like I'm watching handmade sale

0:58:29.040 --> 0:58:31.280
<v Speaker 1>and they're doing that as punishment. That's that's all I

0:58:31.320 --> 0:58:33.160
<v Speaker 1>play with when I watch porn is my clip. My

0:58:33.280 --> 0:58:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I have t Rex arms so I can't reach to

0:58:36.080 --> 0:58:39.360
<v Speaker 1>finger myself inside my pussy because my hands it just

0:58:39.400 --> 0:58:41.480
<v Speaker 1>don't work that way. So I actually only play with

0:58:41.520 --> 0:58:43.000
<v Speaker 1>my clips. So when I read this, I was just

0:58:43.040 --> 0:58:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I felt bad, like kind of sad, like, oh my god,

0:58:46.040 --> 0:58:51.560
<v Speaker 1>how But but I have um penetration orgasms like I

0:58:51.720 --> 0:58:54.600
<v Speaker 1>come off being penetrated UM. So I have had orgasms

0:58:54.640 --> 0:58:56.840
<v Speaker 1>without simulation of my clips, so I know it's possible

0:58:56.880 --> 0:58:58.400
<v Speaker 1>for her. I do want to sit here and give

0:58:58.400 --> 0:59:00.960
<v Speaker 1>a shout out to my friend Natalie Um. Natalie is

0:59:01.000 --> 0:59:05.200
<v Speaker 1>a sexologist and hypno therapist that transform you from sexually

0:59:05.200 --> 0:59:08.360
<v Speaker 1>conservatives to sexually empowered. Most of her clients have been

0:59:08.360 --> 0:59:12.200
<v Speaker 1>through illness, abuse, shame and guilt, painful sex, sexual dysfunction,

0:59:12.280 --> 0:59:14.960
<v Speaker 1>and are looking to be freed. She uses a combination

0:59:14.960 --> 0:59:18.920
<v Speaker 1>of sex coaching and hypnotherapy to achieve this. She recently

0:59:18.960 --> 0:59:22.400
<v Speaker 1>created the first deck of sexuality affirmation cards on the market.

0:59:22.680 --> 0:59:24.160
<v Speaker 1>If you, if any of you guys are going to

0:59:24.200 --> 0:59:25.960
<v Speaker 1>the Slot Walk in l A, She's actually gonna have

0:59:26.000 --> 0:59:28.800
<v Speaker 1>a booth there. They help women reconnect with their body,

0:59:28.840 --> 0:59:32.640
<v Speaker 1>restore their femininity, and reclaim the sexuality for the sexually

0:59:32.640 --> 0:59:36.320
<v Speaker 1>empowered and confident woman. She has a line of merchandise

0:59:36.480 --> 0:59:41.120
<v Speaker 1>with her tagline Orgasm Queen. They can be found at www.

0:59:41.360 --> 0:59:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Love Chat with Nat dot com under shop UM. This

0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:47.200
<v Speaker 1>is a good friend of mine from when I loved

0:59:47.200 --> 0:59:50.120
<v Speaker 1>in Miami and I love what she's doing. UM. And

0:59:50.200 --> 0:59:52.160
<v Speaker 1>so if any of you guys feel like you are

0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:54.760
<v Speaker 1>having shame from sexual trauma or that you're not comfortable

0:59:54.800 --> 0:59:58.360
<v Speaker 1>with talking about sex or feeling sexually liberated as a woman, UM,

0:59:58.480 --> 1:00:00.480
<v Speaker 1>check out love Chat with Nat. She does do her

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<v Speaker 1>hypnosis over the phone UM or remotely if you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are looking UM to do that. So again, shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to UM love Chat with Nat. And I want to

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<v Speaker 1>thank again our guests for coming rich. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>so so very much, thank you. UM. So by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all are right in and like, oh we listened to

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Have me on? Me and my wife are crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>Like are you crazy? Like that? Right? Want? I want

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<v Speaker 1>to plug a resource for people that might think they

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<v Speaker 1>are sex ated. Go ahead, and there is a website thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called Recovery Zone dot com. If you just google

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<v Speaker 1>sex addiction quiz uh, that's the first link that comes up,

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<v Speaker 1>and it has a questionnaire. I think it's about like

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<v Speaker 1>fifty sixty questions along. They have a free version and

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<v Speaker 1>a paid version, and you can see how deep into

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<v Speaker 1>the spectrum of sexuality you may fall, as far as

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<v Speaker 1>like not very sexually conservative, or this is concerned just

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<v Speaker 1>because you know what, I kind of wash you. They

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<v Speaker 1>take that quick. It's it's on a scale we should take.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on a scale of one to twenty, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think at six is when you start getting into that threshold.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighteen nigga. But I mean I drink in a bathroom. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to go to sleep from masturbating, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the same sleep. I have to come and

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<v Speaker 1>feel tired to go to sleep. So I literally masturbate everything,

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<v Speaker 1>even on my period. I'll just put it. I just

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<v Speaker 1>put a towel. I'm gonna I'm gonna call it right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say you, guys, between eight and a ten,

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<v Speaker 1>only eight and ago to twenty. You don't know the

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<v Speaker 1>questions though, so okay, you'd be surprised. Would you rather

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<v Speaker 1>eat a dick or a pizza? Not like what that's

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<v Speaker 1>the type of question. If you want to dick and

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<v Speaker 1>a pizza pizza, I'll eat that. I'd eat the pizzer.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting I'm not gonna ride. Y'all know I don't ride, um,

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I got one more things, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is personal ship. I also have my own podcast

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<v Speaker 1>to everybody got a podcast podcast? No, say podcast, It's no,

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<v Speaker 1>It's completely unrelated to sexes. I do mixed martial arts.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been training and boxing, m A all that other

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<v Speaker 1>stuff for a very long time. And I have a

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<v Speaker 1>show called Super Upper Punch that is about thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about martial arts and combat sports. What's different about

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<v Speaker 1>this from a lot of other shows that talk about

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<v Speaker 1>like fights and stuff is I talk about UM. I

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<v Speaker 1>talk with people that are involved with like the more

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<v Speaker 1>people facing side of It's like, uh, had somebody on

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<v Speaker 1>that runs a grappling tournament that raises money for cancer research,

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<v Speaker 1>or somebody else has a donation based jiu jitsu jim

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. So check it out. It's called Super

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<v Speaker 1>Upper Punch R on iTunes, Google plays. Super also very

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<v Speaker 1>artickle it and I think that our listeners you also

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<v Speaker 1>very articulate. I mean sucking all my words, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>awful on Rose and I just worked already, and I

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<v Speaker 1>the way, I just don't have to leave theses and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm she's not a drinker. I am impressive,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's also because she's about to record another episode

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a strong black man standing in the corner. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm just saying. By the way, you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>we are at Gotham Podcast Studio, one hundred Church Street.

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<v Speaker 1>If you ever need a place in New York to

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<v Speaker 1>record your show, if you want to invite us on

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<v Speaker 1>his guest uh, come through here. It's a great place

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<v Speaker 1>to record. They also have video and I'm doing their

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<v Speaker 1>seminar on when is it Matt September fifteen. Um. Tickets

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<v Speaker 1>will be out by the time you guys see this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>watch this episode, listen to his episode. You can check

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<v Speaker 1>out my page Wheezy WTF and get some tickets someone.

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<v Speaker 1>They also do one offs guys. So, um, I was

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<v Speaker 1>just on a podcast who recorded here called two and

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<v Speaker 1>a Possible. Um. She called me out because she knew

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<v Speaker 1>that I only went on the podcast because she was fine.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was trying to hollow just to find out

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<v Speaker 1>she lived in Orlando and literally she comes up to

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<v Speaker 1>New York once a month. That's the girl who she

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<v Speaker 1>so yes by Yeah, bit, well that's who I ran

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<v Speaker 1>to after we recorded with Rory, I literally called her.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, on the reason I came on his

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<v Speaker 1>podcast because he was fine, just for her to tell

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<v Speaker 1>me she lives in Orlando. Here she lives in oran

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<v Speaker 1>And and every time she comes to New York, which

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<v Speaker 1>is once a month, she records all of her episodes

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<v Speaker 1>here at Gotham pot She's gonna have to have a

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<v Speaker 1>place to stay. You look, and here goes to sex.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, you're saying you you should be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want all that money, Vanilla. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>guys want to listen to when I Vanilla, how was

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<v Speaker 1>sad and had a boyfriend? I said, but you should

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<v Speaker 1>have told me this in the d M. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have came. Um. But if you guys want to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to a very vanilla um kind of response to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sex. Um. I was on a podcast called too

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<v Speaker 1>in Impossible so that should be dropping soon. It was

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<v Speaker 1>super cute. I possible feels like too and impossible to impossible,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'd be having us to un impossible. We all

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<v Speaker 1>know who the impossible, the possible of the guest, but

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<v Speaker 1>why are they called it possible because to impossible? Wa wait, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>wait wait, do you not play spades? Have you never

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<v Speaker 1>played spades? Don't take my black card? Your black card

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<v Speaker 1>is removed six two an apossible. So the black guy

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<v Speaker 1>in the room is shaking and you're not to play spades. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're playing to know how to play spades. Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all I mean that said. Um, black people never teach

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<v Speaker 1>you how to space like play space is repeat. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know how well we're gonna teach you how.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what is over. Wheezy will get in

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<v Speaker 1>a game of spades. She won't be my partner, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'll make sure. I'll make sure how to play. Anyways, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you rich so much from I hate you. Of

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<v Speaker 1>course you will you you know well, they're new you

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<v Speaker 1>paid for me, man, They're not new, they're five years

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of toddlers. They're broken in. Thanks for coming

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<v Speaker 1>onto the episode, which we appreciate you. If you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have any questions again, want to reach out to us,

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<v Speaker 1>You guys can always follow us on UM on our

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram at Horrible Underscore Decisions. You can follow me at

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<v Speaker 1>full court pumps everywhere and where can they follow you?

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<v Speaker 1>We don't follow her, all right, that's fine to um.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead and also follow our Twitter at Horrible Pod,

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<v Speaker 1>about why Weezy and got a Twitter. She follows the

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<v Speaker 1>Horrible Pod page. While you're walking out, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>thank everybody. I was giving away some back to school stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I always try to start a chain of donations, whether

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<v Speaker 1>be back to school ship or Christmas. Thank you so much. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I only spent a few hundred dollars, but so much

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<v Speaker 1>money donated from different men and women. I'm like trying

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<v Speaker 1>to think of all the names, but it was so

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<v Speaker 1>many of you. All try to shout you guys out

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<v Speaker 1>in a description or something, but sending kids backpacks, clothes, everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a girl write me that listens to our show,

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<v Speaker 1>Mandy this noble shit. She lives in her car. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been the last three months. This is just it is

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. Her kids stay with her family and

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<v Speaker 1>she goes to pick them up and in her car

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<v Speaker 1>and she says when she's driving around, she listened to

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<v Speaker 1>our show. Fucking yeah, that's deep. Like the letters that

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<v Speaker 1>we get from our listeners are amazing. But thank you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>that really helped me with that. If you guys ever

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<v Speaker 1>want to start an Instagram chain, all I did was

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<v Speaker 1>just offered to give things to my followers and other

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<v Speaker 1>followers want to help, and we ended helping sixty five kids,

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<v Speaker 1>which isn't a lot, but it's a crazy amount of

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really grateful for you guys. Thank you for being

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<v Speaker 1>listeners and wanting to help me in my interest too.

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<v Speaker 1>And we love you. And we don't always do whole ship,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Some kids, So we read books,

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<v Speaker 1>we give donations, we support fucking charities, and sheet we

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<v Speaker 1>are here trying to let y'all know hos do well.

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<v Speaker 1>We use our last live show and donated to Survive

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<v Speaker 1>to Thrive Global, which helps domestic um victims. Domestic song.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm drunk and I gotta go back to work, so

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<v Speaker 1>this is not good. So guys, I'm actually running out

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<v Speaker 1>of here. I'm it's busy season, so it is now

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<v Speaker 1>eight o'clock at night and I'm running back to the office.

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<v Speaker 1>But