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Speaker 1: Hi guys, we are here again. Welcome to another episode

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Speaker 1: of Horrible Decisions the Sea Girl Mandib And we actually

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Speaker 1: didn't think we were going to be able to have videos.

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Speaker 1: That's what I did. I was like, oh, we're good.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I mean I yes. I I didn't know

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Speaker 1: if our guest today was going to want to be

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Speaker 1: on video today because we're actually kind of talking about

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Speaker 1: something a little serious. But before we but he consented.

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Speaker 1: I want you guys to know that we know how

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Speaker 1: to ask for consent and we said it in a

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Speaker 1: very sexy way. Can we film you yes means yes?

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Speaker 1: Before we get into Horrible Decisions today, I did want

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Speaker 1: to go ahead and give a huge shout out UM

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Speaker 1: to the Joe Button Podcast for shouting us out on

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Speaker 1: their podcast, UM last week, dope. Well, I think we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and drop this next week. So just

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Speaker 1: because we're having issues making sure we get you guys

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Speaker 1: the best quality of videos for YouTube, and again shout

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Speaker 1: out to our YouTube viewer is um, you guys are

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Speaker 1: showing us love. You guys appreciate when we dropped the videos,

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Speaker 1: y'all can kind of see our faces or whatnot, So

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Speaker 1: that's super exciting. I did want to go ahead. We

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Speaker 1: did get an email in response to UM one of

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Speaker 1: the things that Rory said, and I wanted to bring UM,

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Speaker 1: to bring light to it because I thought that it

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Speaker 1: was important to kind of make sure we're we're not UM,

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Speaker 1: what do I say, maybe spreading information that maybe inaccurate.

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Speaker 1: I know, we try to, you know, teach you guys

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Speaker 1: as much as we can. And Rory mentioned UM during

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Speaker 1: the consent talk and the drunk sex talk that most

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Speaker 1: men are always to blame when they go to court

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Speaker 1: and you can't win in court. So I wanted to

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Speaker 1: read one of these letters from our listeners. They actually said,

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Speaker 1: I'm just listening to your latest podcast and want to

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Speaker 1: point out that what your guest Rory said about men

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Speaker 1: always losing in court of law is bullshit. Out of

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Speaker 1: every thousand rapes in the US, only six perpetrators will

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Speaker 1: be incarcerated. And I do want to say She also

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Speaker 1: included a link for us to do our own research. UM.

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid that Rory spread some very damaging and dangerous

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Speaker 1: myths about the treatment of rape and sexual assault in

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Speaker 1: the criminal justice system. That being said, the discussion about

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Speaker 1: consent is very important and I think you're right to

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Speaker 1: be having it with men would be better, um if

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Speaker 1: those men had their facts straight. Though. I think that

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Speaker 1: what Rory was just saying is that as men, you

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Speaker 1: need to be even more careful, um, because we know,

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Speaker 1: and as we've been seeing with everything that's been going on.

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Speaker 1: Even if you're accused the court of like ship, not

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Speaker 1: even the real court, but public opinion pens you was guilty, right,

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Speaker 1: So I think that's maybe something he was trying to

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Speaker 1: reference more so than anything, when when he said that,

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Speaker 1: I was immediately thinking of the what's the swimmer brock

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Speaker 1: something I don't know when when he's the white boy

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Speaker 1: don't remember who we rate like I heard it was

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Speaker 1: this is somebody else that was on here and you

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Speaker 1: don't like community service. Yeah, he was like this like

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Speaker 1: it's weird because when Marity said that, I think her

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Speaker 1: and I both like nodded our heads. And it's because

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Speaker 1: you always just know that they're such a bad like

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Speaker 1: you never get away from it. It's just this bad

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Speaker 1: stigma attached to you for life. You're always going to

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Speaker 1: be a rapist, no matter what the funk you do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't know that until that girl sent

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Speaker 1: really appreciate you for doing that, because, to be honest

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Speaker 1: with you, I couldn't believe the numbers. What was it?

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Speaker 1: a cute, I mean, or get um? What's the word

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Speaker 1: let you guys know, Welcome to Horrible Decisions. If you're

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Speaker 1: ran new listener from Joe Budden's podcast and you heard

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Speaker 1: rory um. Every week, we have different types of guests,

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Speaker 1: whether they're kinky or whether they're an influencer, whoever they

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Speaker 1: something in the news where sex is there, um, whether

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Speaker 1: And this week it's about gay porn studies. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it's something that I actually came across UM looking.

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Speaker 1: I'm on Twitter, so of course a lot of people

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Speaker 1: send me um some pretty weird things. And I've mentioned

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Speaker 1: multiple times on the show that I am a female

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Speaker 1: And apparently the new study actually says um. Back in

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Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen, the wildly popular online pornography site Pornhub,

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Speaker 1: which both over a hundred and fifteen million daily views,

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Speaker 1: published findings that took sexuality researcher Lucy a. Ville by surprise.

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Speaker 1: Women are responsible for more than a third of the

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Speaker 1: site's gay male porn views UM and so I am

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Speaker 1: going to attach this link onto our Patreon account for

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Speaker 1: those of you who are patrons, and basically you can

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Speaker 1: I don't like an intimate porn too much. I like

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Speaker 1: night stand? In black? Yes, Like it's very very there's

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Speaker 1: All porn besides, like gonzo porn is like what's gonzo porn? Gonzo?

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Speaker 1: And then I passed forward to the fucking I then

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Speaker 1: the Vanilla Show, I also wanted to note that another

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Speaker 1: themselves as men while consuming the gay mail erotica. And

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Speaker 1: it's crazy because I don't really let's just speak of me.

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Speaker 1: I don't think of myself as the male, but I

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Speaker 1: pick one of them to be my my boyfriend or

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Speaker 1: something like, oh yeah, take that. See I've I've heard

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Speaker 1: guys say that with lesbian porn. For me, I can't

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Speaker 1: I'm watching porn, it's like I'm trying to live vicariously

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Speaker 1: through the guy that's there. But if it's just girls there,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, cool, am I supposed to relate to? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I don't think like that. That's just me. I understand

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Speaker 1: why some guys like lesbian porn and why some girls

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Speaker 1: like gas. I don't need to you both just said this.

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Speaker 1: I don't need to put me in there at all.

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Speaker 1: I just watch it. Oh yeah, I imagine now there

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Speaker 1: I'll like close, like there's actually this is more recently,

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Speaker 1: the last thirty seconds before an orgasm. I let the

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Speaker 1: like in my own thing, Like I just was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: my god, wakonda. That's really what I've been incurating too.

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Speaker 1: Is Michael B. Jordan honestly, just everything about him, like

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Speaker 1: started watching porn, I was like uncontrollable. I was just like,

426
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: I feel bad for every computer that I've I feel

427
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,439
Speaker 1: like every teenage boy was jerking off a lot. What

428
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 1: made you so different? Because every guy's gonna hear this,

429
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,120
Speaker 1: and me, like, dude, I jerked off NonStop. I watched

430
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 1: porn five times a day, so I heumped everything in

431
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 1: the house. Well, I used to suck myself and watch

432
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 1: the window to make sure my mom wasn't coming in

433
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 1: the driveway. Yeah. Well, I think it has a lot

434
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 1: to do with when you want to stop. It's like

435
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,879
Speaker 1: before with control. If you are like, all right, I

436
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 1: should probably can chill out. Yeah, put the brakes on this,

437
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 1: and you feel like you can't, that's the biggest thing.

438
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 1: So I would like watch porn jerk off, and then

439
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: before I had even finished cleaning myself up. I'm like,

440
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 1: what am I gonna now? Probably should watch some porn

441
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: like it was. It was that that sort of thing

442
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 1: like like my balls are wearing so much pain all

443
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, it's have you ever had to like

444
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 1: learn are you ambidextrous? Like can you switch hands? Like

445
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: is your one arm tired? Uh? No, I'm I'm strictly righty.

446
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 1: So there's been times I've like, your your right arm

447
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: does look a little bigger? Well, no, bullshit. Actually sucked

448
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 1: up my uh my ring finger on my right hand recently,

449
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean like, look, it's not the most

450
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,919
Speaker 1: important one, but I had it like taped up and

451
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 1: I was like, how the funk am I going to

452
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 1: jerk off with this? And I was like fuck it.

453
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm just gonna have to like suffer

454
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 1: through the pain. Okay. So even with what Wheezy said,

455
00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 1: a lot of people may listen to this and be like,

456
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 1: watch a lot of porn, I jack off a lot?

457
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: What am I an addict? So I want to get

458
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: into at what point it started affecting your life? Because

459
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 1: jacking off isn't affecting your life, but it can and

460
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: you can't control it, So how did it start affecting

461
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 1: maybe your job, your family and your relationships that so

462
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 1: I was once I started sucking, like I started working

463
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: pretty late, well I think pretty late, like probably about

464
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 1: like eighteen nineteen years old, and like once that started,

465
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: it was just floodgates from there on out. Like I

466
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 1: was always trying to meet people to have sex with.

467
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: Whether that meant that I was like trying to cultivate

468
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: several different relationships with women that I knew, um or

469
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: I was going on Craigslist or whatever I could find.

470
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 1: Then when Tinder came out, that ship fucking ruined me

471
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 1: even more so. Um But basically I was just running

472
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: through people like body since NonStop. On top of that,

473
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: I can to myself a heterosexual male, but if a

474
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 1: woman wasn't available, I would end up trying to find

475
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: a guy to sleep with even though I am not

476
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: attracted to men. Yeah. Yeah, whether it's whether it's I'm

477
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm not attracted to men, or be a woman that

478
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm I'm not feeling her at all, but

479
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: I have to do this. Yeah, did you find it

480
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 1: was easy? I feel like it's easier to find at

481
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: least the way grinder works nowadays for like a dude

482
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: to go down on you. Did you find that that

483
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: was just like it would happen quicker for you mean

484
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 1: as far as like cooking up with with men um, Well,

485
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 1: at the time, I was living, um in a different place.

486
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: I wasn't living in the city at the time, and

487
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: that made it a little harder because it was like a, yeah,

488
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,199
Speaker 1: it was harder to meet people period um. Once I

489
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: came here. Then I would go to like adult bookstores

490
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 1: and stuff like that and try to hook up with

491
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: people too. And that ship was just like, oh my god,

492
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,479
Speaker 1: you're freaking me out. I walked in to get some

493
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: stuff at this one place and um not like it's

494
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: called Gotham something like a bookstore and they have the

495
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: viewing booths. Yeah. So I was in there for like

496
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: maybe three minutes just getting like whatever. It was four

497
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: people in less than five minutes, I'm serious, asked me,

498
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: didn't ask me. They didn't think I was a hooker.

499
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: They asked me how much I cost. They just invited

500
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: me in the booth with them. Yeah, so it works.

501
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 1: And I didn't know it was like the meeting place

502
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: and so you went to those Yeah, specifically for sex,

503
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: but do other people go there for that? Did you

504
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,479
Speaker 1: go to brothels places as well? Yeah, so I was

505
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 1: going to like like sex parties. Um, the sex parties

506
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: are probably great. Yeah, yes, um Bradlows not so much.

507
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: I mean that's what's good about the Internet. You can

508
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: find whatever you you need on there, right But um, so,

509
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: I guess this is what also led into the financial

510
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: issues you had. Absolutely. Yeah, I was talking about that

511
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: I was spending money and I just didn't have Like

512
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: when it gets to the point that you're like, Okay,

513
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: I have nothing in the fridge right now. I could

514
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: either spend money on groceries, even if it's like the

515
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: smallest amount, or spend it on sex and whatever, whatever,

516
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: any anything I could whatever I knew would lead me

517
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: to sex quicker. Yeah, so I would be the sort

518
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: of guy that, like, I would be on my way

519
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 1: to a date messaging somebody else from Craigslist for a

520
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: one night stand, and then leaving the date, I would

521
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: be hitting up somebody else like an escort, to like

522
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: meet up later on as I'm on my way to

523
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: the Craigslist date. What's the most amount of people or

524
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 1: times you've had sex in a day. In a day,

525
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: I can't even tell you really more than probably not ten.

526
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: I guess you don't have enough hours in a day

527
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: for the probably like five. Yeah, probably around there, maybe

528
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: a little bit more, a little less. What about when

529
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 1: you have a girlfriend, do you just want to suck her?

530
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 1: Like what when this was going on? When you're dating someone,

531
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 1: is it just wanting to suck them like crazy? Or

532
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: are you interested in like new pussy? Um it, I

533
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: do want to suck them. But the problem I love.

534
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: I think porn is is a good thing for a

535
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: lot of people, but when you have zero self control,

536
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: porn could be one of the most damaging things, particularly

537
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: because the way people, particularly men, at least a lot

538
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: of the men that I know, consumed porn, which is,

539
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: you don't just watch one porn and then you're like, great,

540
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: I'm done. Non you open up like thirty tabs and

541
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: then you watch like some of this one and some

542
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: of that one, some of that one. And what that

543
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: does is it conditions the brain to always find something new.

544
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 1: So it's interesting. I want to ask you what you

545
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: think of this. Um You've probably heard me say the

546
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: name Jeeves, Yes, Jeeves, and I watched a lot of

547
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: porn together, and he told me he's been really happy

548
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: about that because an X of his was very upset

549
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: that he watched porn, and I guess because she was

550
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: a feminist, and she said that it was really fucking

551
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: up his way of thinking how sex should be. Now,

552
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: how do you feel about that? Do you think porn

553
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: made you think your sex need to be crazier? For

554
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: me personally, But I can't speak to what he was

555
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: doing because I know, look, everybody, most people have sex,

556
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: and not everybody is a sex addict, and some people

557
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 1: just like to have kinky or sex or I want

558
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: to try things that they watch in porn, which I mean,

559
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: I know I've done quite a lot. I think looking

560
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: at there's a time where I think porn can As

561
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: much as I don't agree with her to the point

562
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: that you don't want him to watch it, I can

563
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: understand that. Yeah, it's understandable, just like any because that's

564
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: where you learn kink your ship. Yeah, any anything could

565
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: be addictive like that though, I mean, like, look, just

566
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: like the same way something we could drink alcohol right now,

567
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: but none of us is gonna get fucking plastered, right Well,

568
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know what. Yeah, yeah, I have

569
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: a friend right now who's dealing with alcoholism, and I

570
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: feel bad because I'm a woman who also likes to drink.

571
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: So I feel like I'm enabling his addiction when we're together,

572
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: and it hurts me because I literally know like I'm

573
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: his stopping point because I know he would continue if

574
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: we were together, if we weren't together, and so it

575
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: just sucks. So Weezy brought up, um, how you go

576
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: about dealing with this with a girlfriend. So do you have,

577
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: um a story to share about how your addiction may

578
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: be ruined a past relationship or what happened with that relationship.

579
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: I would say, Uh, It's only been a couple of

580
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: years that I've been like sexually sober, not that long

581
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: at all. Um, wait, you're not sucking right now. I

582
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: didn't say I wasn't sucking. I just said that I'm

583
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: sexually sober, meaning like I feel in control of my

584
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: sexual desires. I'm not running through people NonStop. And uh,

585
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: one other thing about sexual addictions, you usually feel bad

586
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: about the sexual choices that you make after and right

587
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: now I'm at a place where I don't feel bad

588
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: about right That's good. Yeah, it's like in moderation, you

589
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: go to have a drink once you're over the alcoholism.

590
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: Do you feel bad about it or do you feel

591
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: like you're in control? Yeah? Yeah, I liken it to depression,

592
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: like everybody's felt bad, but uh not everyone is depressed.

593
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you know everyone has made poor life

594
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: choices involving sex. But it did. And it may even

595
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: be semi habitual. But if it's like one of these

596
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: things that's like I feel like I can't stop it,

597
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: then it's this is an addiction. I know I might

598
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: be addicted in sex addiction. Do you think it had

599
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: to do with some of the sex you had alone?

600
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: Like would you would you be satisfied if you jerked

601
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: off a few times a night, or would you feel

602
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: like eventually you had to suck somebody? Uh? Definitely I

603
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,719
Speaker 1: would feel like I had to suck somebody, like like

604
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: if so that can help? Okay? No, no, no, because

605
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: I would. I've heard people say like, oh, if you're

606
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 1: gonna like meet somebody, you really don't want to suck them,

607
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: just jerk off beforehand. I'm like that. I mean, I'm

608
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: actually Rory just said that in the last and I

609
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: was like, I wish you know, I'm either or. So

610
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: there's sometimes where like if I think I'm going to

611
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: suck someone right and I'm like, I kind of don't

612
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: want to. I'll jerk. Often it's okay, but then there's

613
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: some moments where I touched myself and now I want

614
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: it more. Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, No, I get that.

615
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: I get that. Um. I'm sure for some people that

616
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: works like a charm on the time, But for me,

617
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: do you last long? High? Last too long? I actually do.

618
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: So It's not only coming from porn possibly and masturbation, No,

619
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: I have so if I'm having sex with somebody, I

620
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: at a certain point when I know that they've gotten

621
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: whatever they need, I'm like, okay, now I'm gonna put

622
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: you over here and I'm gonna with my ego so hard.

623
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: The last time you came from sex years, not definitely,

624
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: not years, I can't remember. Yeah, probably. So have you

625
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: ever used like a sensitizer typing? Does that help? And

626
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm I'm so afraid of using ship like

627
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: that on my dick, like chemicals, Like the most that

628
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: I'll do is like like a cock ring or something

629
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: like that. But then and that helps that actually helps

630
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: it helps keep you hard or helps you come. It

631
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: helps me to, Yeah, it'll help me come. It help

632
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: me come and keep me hard, because that's another thing.

633
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: That's another thing that some guys can try if they

634
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: are having maybe that issue. There's a bunch of good

635
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: Silicon co. I'm really interested because like, you were able

636
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: to have sex with so many people and you're attractive,

637
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: but like, what would you do? You are was your

638
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: dick on Craigslist? Like how would you get them to say? Yes?

639
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: I mean, was your dick on Craigslist? I wonder, like,

640
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm thinking and even day like, yeah, that's

641
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: what I want. So I was what was it that

642
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: maybe it's because you are good looking? Did you make

643
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: an ad saying that you were a sexual addict that

644
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: needed his cravings fix? Like? What were your ad? Sure

645
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: that probably could have worked. See here's the thing. I

646
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: never made the ad. I would reach out to other

647
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: you reach out. I made an AD like maybe like twice,

648
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: and that ship was like god, damn, too many emails

649
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: right now? Yeah, yeah, it's it feels better to be

650
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: able to kind of pick and choose. I wish we

651
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: would have done that before Craigslist was gone, Like, I

652
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: wish we could have found people on Craigslist. I feel

653
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: like that would have been But I mean, I feel

654
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: like we have so many dating apps now maybe you

655
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: could just there's on that episode, yeah, like she matched

656
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: with him and was like, hey, um, I know we matched,

657
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: but I really just want to bring it onto my podcast.

658
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: By the way, I do that with a lot of

659
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: couples I matched with, Like, I don't really me I've

660
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: never met a couple online. Am I selling the truth?

661
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: What are you know? But I'm just like I'm saying, like,

662
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: if I'm swiping on Bumble or Tender and there's a couple,

663
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: I'll swipe him right and say, can I interview you?

664
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: But I wanted to ask you a question. So we

665
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: have a lot of homemail in our email right now

666
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: pertaining to the same topic. So if this pertains to

667
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: you guys, hopefully you know. I just know we read it.

668
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: But a lot of people are complaining about boring sex

669
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: or not getting enough sex because maybe their partner isn't

670
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: a sexually craving as them. At any point in time.

671
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: With your sexual addiction and being in a relationship, have

672
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: you ever felt a woman take advantage of your sexual addiction?

673
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: And how did they do that? Because to me, I'd

674
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: be mad if a nigga only sucks me one time

675
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: and then he's a one time hitter and quitter and

676
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: done it other addict not knowingly? Okay, but I was

677
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: in a relationship with someone that definitely took advantage. And

678
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: how did she take advantage of you? She she just

679
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: knew that I always wanted it and needed it, so

680
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: she would use that as leverage to make me do

681
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: or to make me to uh, to have me allow

682
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: her to do? Ship? Wait? What like? What to give

683
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: us an example? Uh, I'll I should start off by

684
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: saying that neither of us were good in this relationship

685
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: like we like saying buy me things, or like if

686
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: you don't do this, like um, pick me up, take

687
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: me here. It was a lot of just uh, if

688
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: you don't do this, then I'm going to suck somebody

689
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: else instead of you, like that sort of thing. And

690
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: because I was an idiot and because I needed it

691
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 1: so much, even though I knew that I could suck

692
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: other people, I wanted her to like. That's another thing

693
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: well I could say, particularly with me, is that like

694
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't enough to just have sex. I need to

695
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: have sex with as many people as I could possibly

696
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: have at any point in time. What's those people that

697
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: you sucked in one time? Or like, like how many?

698
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: How many people that I have at one time? Not

699
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: one day? And group sex? Uh, I didn't count. Wait,

700
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: it was that many people? Well it was like a

701
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: sex party. So it was and like everybody was kind

702
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: of doing stuff with each other all at the same time.

703
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: You know what, I really want to know what we're

704
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: going there? When you got your first STD because I

705
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: know it. Yes, how did that make you want to stop?

706
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: I mean everything everything? Did it made me want to stop? Yeah? Yeah?

707
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I was like, fuck, it's

708
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: like it's not going to I knew I was talking

709
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: to someone that there's a guy. I know, he's an

710
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: entertainer for friends, he's got a girl, he has a

711
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: few girl friends, and you just got a chlamydia and

712
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: I you don't have to write his name now. But

713
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: he said to me like, oh my god, dude, it

714
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: got lamydia. I can't suck my girl for the next

715
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: five days. I'm like, nigga, you goot to keep digging

716
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: Fans and He's like, why it's a pill. Can you wait? Wait?

717
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: But can you funk with chlamydia with a condom though? Like,

718
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: is it still transferable with a condom? Or I believe.

719
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: I believe with the condom you'll you'll be safe. But

720
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: I mean too, I think only harpies because that's the

721
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: only thing that's on the outside. It's not that you

722
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: can climb through a condom. But you have to remember this, right,

723
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: Your condom is not always going to completely cover the back,

724
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: absolutely right, And so if it's like if you have

725
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: pre come and it's coming like you're mixing fluids, that's

726
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 1: what it comes. I thought. Chlamydia though, was in your fluid,

727
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: not on the skin. So if you technically fluid is

728
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: being transferred, okay, okay, okay. And even if a woman

729
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: has it, let's say that your juices get inside of

730
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: his inside the condom. Yeah, I feel a part of like,

731
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: as as great as medicine is, it in this way

732
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: hurts a lot of people that have this mentality that like, oh,

733
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: if it's so easily curable, then there there's there's barely

734
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: any consequences. I don't funk for like a day or

735
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: two whatever. I just take this pill gives me a

736
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: little bit of a stomach ache, take like a rig

737
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: running ship for a little bit, and then after that,

738
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm good to go. Just once. Actually, actually I'm sorry.

739
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: I had it once. It was a comedian. Yeah I

740
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: had it, and then uh me and this girl like

741
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: I got it, and then she got it and then

742
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: again yeah yeah. Um. But anyway, let me get back

743
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: to what you were saying about this girl that, yes,

744
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: how did she take advantage? She would just use that

745
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: all the time to be like if, like, say, she

746
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: was in school at the time, she'd be like, yo,

747
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: if you don't drive down here to see me this weekend,

748
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: then you know, I don't know what I'm gonna do,

749
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: basically implying that she was going to suck somebody, and

750
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: she would. And what made it worse is that she

751
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: had some at ship friends that, you know, they were

752
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: in shitty relationships too, so they would encourage her to

753
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: do shitty things. I'm not saying that my circle of

754
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: friends were any better at the time. They were just

755
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: as shitty. But you know, it's something that I just

756
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: bought into, and that's actually what led to me losing

757
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: my job. That's what I was going to ask next

758
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: because some people may still be listening, and like, I mean,

759
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 1: I suk a lot of bitches I've called an STD

760
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: I did this? Am I a sex attic? Two? So

761
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 1: your sexual addiction actually led to you losing your job?

762
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: How does that happen? All right? So I was working

763
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: at a mixed martial arts gym in upstate, New York.

764
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: And uh, at the time, that girl she came in

765
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: my my girlfriend after I was like cleaning up everything,

766
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: and this was like he had just upgraded from the

767
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: owner of the gym, upgraded from like a smaller gym

768
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 1: to a much nicer facility. I'm sorry, are you gonna

769
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: tell you you just sucked her on like a nice

770
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: part of the gym in the new luxury bathroom or gym.

771
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 1: You just got caught your job? Why I didn't explain

772
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: that it was a new gym, Just tell me that.

773
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: Why did you need to explain that it was an

774
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: upgraded gym, because it was just something that was like

775
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: he had so much pride in and wait, wait did

776
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: he see you on camerah No no no, no, no, okay,

777
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: so he went no, no, no, no, no, no, I

778
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: got caught because, uh, we were wearing a condom and

779
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: I threw the condom out in the garbage. It was

780
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: the smart because I just felt bad. So they found

781
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 1: the condom and then he, y, you admitted it to it. Yeah,

782
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: you know, because that's part of them. So another one

783
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: of the guys that that worked there, he was cleaning

784
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: out the garbage like before, like we had like a

785
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: staff and he was cleaning out the guarden beforehand, and

786
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: he found the condom and he brought it to the

787
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: head coaches attention and he, you know, said like, yo,

788
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: who I need to know who did this? And I

789
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: was I just felt so racked with guilt already from

790
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: just doing something that I knew I shouldn't have done,

791
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: and compound that with like the guilt from just being

792
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: a sex addict and then also desecrating this guy's brand

793
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: new gym. So I was just like, yeah, that was me.

794
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: And he's like, all right, your keys, get the funk out.

795
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 1: So you say you're sexually sober, now, are you clocked out?

796
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: I was off the clock. Yeah, I still say you

797
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: should have kept your dot. But you say you're sexually sober. Now,

798
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: what is the process of recovery and how do you

799
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: go about having a relationship now. So there's a lot

800
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: of things that can that can be Um. I know

801
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: there's there's a s A A meeting sex Addicts Anonymous.

802
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: I tried going to that for me. It didn't really work. Okay,

803
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: you know, so there is just like you know, alcohol anonymous,

804
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: alcohol alcoholics Anonymous, and a narcotics okay, and so there

805
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: is a sexual addiction place to go. Yeah. I went

806
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: to an A meeting recently to go with a friend

807
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,959
Speaker 1: for the first time, and there was a few set

808
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: statics in there. Yeah, and that's that's actually yeah, that's

809
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: actually something else that A lot of people that are

810
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: sex addicts also have substance abuse to which like compounds

811
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: the problem. There was a girl that was saying she

812
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: was addicted to cocaine. I was trying not to do cocaine,

813
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 1: but when she does cocaine, then she gets her sex

814
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: addiction that pops out and she's like, then the two

815
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: of them go around for days because she's so tired

816
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: when she's sucking, so she'll do more cocaine to say

817
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: to keep sucking. And it's a cycle or alcohol the

818
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 1: same thing. It's they don't have the balls to yeah, damn,

819
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: shout out to m YPD. Right, I guess they don't

820
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: do drug tests. Well, I guess coke also comes out

821
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: of your system in two days, So she find me safe. Yeah,

822
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: we just really the only drugs now legal that stays

823
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: in like thirty Let me tell you how she'd be

824
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: known in real life. So, I when I got this

825
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: new job, I was like, damn, I can't think of

826
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: the last time I smoked me. There was a few

827
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: days ago, blah blah, blah blah blah. So I google

828
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: drugs and when they come out of your system, weed,

829
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: which is the most basic of all that comes out

830
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: thirty day days. Meth and heroin and cocaine was like

831
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: five five days max. Yeah. Where literally? Um, okay, So

832
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: you've gone to therapy, and so did you find therapy

833
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: to actually help you with recovery? One on one therapy?

834
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: Individual therapy was like probably one of the best things

835
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: that I couldn't done in therapy. Make your horny listen

836
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: to the stories. Well, they're they're very smart. Where they

837
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: say please don't make anything explicit at all, they make that,

838
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: Well I would hear some good because that material, I guess. Yeah,

839
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: but you know for people that are trying to keep

840
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: their ship together. I didn't talk about this because I

841
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: didn't want anyone to guess who it was. But I

842
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: did go to an a a meeting with a friend

843
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: who needed it. And while they're they're the sex sattics,

844
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: I told their stories. I was kind of getting like, yeah,

845
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: turned on, so I could see how actually let me

846
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: just to bring it back to that abusive relationship. Um one,

847
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: I feel just ashamed just even saying this, and y'all,

848
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna respond pretty strongly. So I had

849
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: never told this girl about being sexually abused until like

850
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: pretty late in the relationship. And when we did, we

851
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,959
Speaker 1: were at her college dorm. It was just us there

852
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: and when I did it, she got turned on. And

853
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: that should have been like the biggest red flag to me,

854
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: just to be like, I told her the story and

855
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: she got wet as hell, you know, like she was

856
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: just like, I'm really turned when I when I told her,

857
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: When when I I might have been like first grades,

858
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: you know what. Okay, that's gonna leave me to actually

859
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: share a story because you saying that it makes me

860
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: feel bad. It makes me feel bad because I talked

861
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: to a guy who experienced the same thing, and I

862
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: used to want him to tell me about what happened.

863
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: So I know, I feel really bad because I know.

864
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: So basically, I was talking to a guy and he

865
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: had been in the NBA and went to overseas, but

866
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: he was into He actually opened up to me that

867
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: he would find trans and men on Craigslist. So I

868
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: was trying to understand where this came from. So he

869
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: had let me know that when he was young he

870
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: was in trans women and men, so he would, um,

871
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: he let me know that he would be on like

872
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: the back in the day was the message boards. So

873
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: he said that he was on a message board and

874
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: thought he had met a girl around his age. So

875
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: he ended up going to this person and it wasn't

876
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 1: a little girl his age. It was actually a grown

877
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: man and the grown man would play with his dick.

878
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: And at this point he didn't know if it was

879
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: right around like it was online dating it was. He

880
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: didn't know. Um when that happened, he said he was thirteen.

881
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: He was thirteen, So he was being fondled with this

882
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: guy and it later would move into not only would

883
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: he be playing with him, then he would ask him

884
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: to play with him. He had never had been fucked

885
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: annally at this point. However, Um, this guy would play

886
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: with his genitals. Fast forward, when he got to college,

887
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 1: there was a bathroom and I'll go ahead and say

888
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: at the University of Memphis where uh you know, but

889
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: so there's a bathroom where guys could go in and

890
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: get their dick sucked by other guys on campus. So

891
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: it happened right Well, there was a professor in there

892
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: and saw him, and so the professor actually from seeing

893
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: him kind of threatened his grade and actually then forced

894
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 1: him to perform oral sex on him at the school.

895
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: And then fast forward to even that, then he found

896
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: out woods where you can go and get your dick sucked.

897
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: And now it's kind of like an addiction for him

898
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: to where he deals with men in secrecy. But it

899
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 1: all stems from him being you know, molested all these times.

900
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: And I, yeah, I used to want him to tell

901
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: me how it happened, what he did to you and

902
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: kind of relive it. But I also feel like it

903
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: was therapeutic for him because it was things that he

904
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: had never told anyone else. Um, and that ship the

905
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: cruising spots like gay cruising spots like that ship is

906
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: like just the subculture around that, it's like ridiculous, just

907
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: like likes gay cruising. So there's the thing. I think

908
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: I've talked about it on the on the show before

909
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: where one of my gaze was coming in town. Any googles,

910
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: you call them your my gays, they're mine. They have

911
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: other women, they're friends, but like they're mine. How very

912
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 1: trump of you ship? You know what means? My husband?

913
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: I hate you, bro. I'm gonna let this one. There

914
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: are a lot of places that I want to go

915
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: right now, but I won't because I'll be nice as

916
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: you are a guest that brought us rose. But yes,

917
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: I'll shut up. Um So, yeah, my gays, my girls,

918
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: my guys. So my guys coming down and they're like, bitch,

919
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: we're going on this site. We've been hearing about it,

920
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: and it's where you can find gyms in New York

921
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: to get your dick suck. Yeah, that's so. Like I

922
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: googled gay steam rooms, just like googled it, and like

923
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: there's a whole fucking sight that comes up that will

924
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: just tell you all the spots to go. One of them, specifically,

925
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: is the Financial District. Equinox said, yes, in general, just

926
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: like so we went, we paid the day path. You're

927
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: going to go to the gym. No, mall, don't go

928
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: to gym and Chelsea. That happen. They're sucking cock. They're

929
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: sucking dick and Chelsea. Okay, see, none of my niggas

930
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: could go to the gym. Now you better go play

931
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: basketball on the court where everybody. But here's the thing.

932
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 1: Benny used to tell me a story. And Benny was, um,

933
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: one of my best friends you've out on the show.

934
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: I was telling him about It's like, is this true

935
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 1: with the steam rooms? He's like, girl, yeah, Like why

936
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: else do you think I were? Yeah, but it's not

937
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: even just that circle jerks, like people don't want to

938
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: be watched everything. Yeah, yeah, for real, there's but it's

939
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: not even just Jim's though, Like there's like public parks.

940
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to like like say the names of everything,

941
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: because like I feel like, you know, just one part,

942
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: one part, like how would it go, Like a bench

943
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: at a park, like a location, and they're like an

944
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: under a certain tree you can get your dick. No, no,

945
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: it's not that I'm talking about the whole park. Like

946
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: you can go to specific parks at specific time, which

947
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: dudes like walking you. I don't want to go see

948
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: somebody getting dicksa what's that parking? In? Like? Way, there

949
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: you go. I'm not Washington Square and Central you know,

950
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 1: I don't want to go all the way to die.

951
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure there's probably cruising going on in

952
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 1: Central Parks. I'm sure Washington Square is a little smaller,

953
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 1: probably that it probably isn't happening. I'm sure I don't

954
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: get fingered in Washington Square Park. I tried to know

955
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: the guy before, and did you just like, yeah, oh

956
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: my god, remember that time those twin basketball players, remember

957
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: white guys. Of course they were friends. But no, it's

958
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: crazy because I tried to circumcise. Of course they're all

959
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: I didn't want to fulfill the stereotype from the bar.

960
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: Weren't you the one that was saying that you don't

961
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: that's me. I don't like turtleneck. Okay, she likes the skin.

962
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: She she knows like the sensitivity that discriminatory from what

963
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: you guys might think. I've read so many things about me, like,

964
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: oh funk, you maybe like that it feels like a

965
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: shake weight something. Yeah he was, Yes, I said like

966
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: uncircumcised dick feels like a shake weight, like you know

967
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: when you're shaking the skin just be moving. It's really

968
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: really different, Like it's all different types of it could

969
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: either be a lot, could neither be a little. It

970
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: could be a total sharp pay not. It's like a

971
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: popsicle with a surprise you. Well, look, I am circumcised,

972
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: but I do feel like the stigma that we have

973
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 1: culturally about uncircumcised dicks is kind of sucked up because

974
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: it is everywhere. Yeah it is. Well, it's crazy. It's

975
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: crazy because you said that, because I actually wanted to

976
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 1: get um into our homemiale for the episode that um, well,

977
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: I'm reading too, but I didn't want to read that

978
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: because my friend actually is offering her free therapy for that.

979
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: So I'm awesome because the girl that wrote that question

980
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: in and I have been d m. Yeah, so I'm

981
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: gonna ask one before we get to that. But for

982
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: the homemale for this episode, the subject line says by

983
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: sexual or gay, and I thought that this was a

984
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: good question that maybe you can hone in on specifically

985
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: because you identify as straight. So it says, hey, Mandy

986
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: and wheezy, I just recently started listening to the podcast

987
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: via SoundCloud. I'm totally loving the show. I have this

988
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: curiosity since two thousand thirteen New Year's Eve when this

989
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: guy who happened and that's th New Year's Eve, when

990
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: this guy I've been kind of five years and I

991
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: need to know, um he said, when this guy who

992
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: happened to be bisexual started kissing me and one thing

993
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: led to another due to the fact that I was drunk.

994
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: All I remember is him on top of me trying

995
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: to get my dick inside of his booty hole, but

996
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: it was not getting any hard. So in the morning

997
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: it was whatever. I guess that means in the morning

998
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: it was hard for morning Wood. I don't know. He

999
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: doesn't he doesn't classify. So ever, since then, I've been

1000
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: looking up gay porn and it gets me hard as fuck.

1001
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 1: I've tried giving head and getting a cock in my ask.

1002
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: It was not nice and uncomfortable, but I enjoy getting

1003
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: head from guys. I've never sucked a guy before, but

1004
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: I would like to try. I fucked chicks and I

1005
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: love that. So my curiosity is, does watching gay porn?

1006
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: Does watching gay porn and getting head from guys make

1007
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: me gay or buy it's crazy because I know, I

1008
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 1: know all these niggas listening for real gay, but but

1009
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 1: what would you say? How how should he classify? Because

1010
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: clearly I feel like he's having a psychological malfunction with

1011
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: how he should identify. Now, well, I'm gonna say, first

1012
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: of all, I know that all those like ultra hetero listeners,

1013
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna discount whatever I say, because I already said

1014
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: that I've had sexual and college with a man. Of

1015
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: course it's gay as say that as long as you

1016
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: know they were. They were mad at me for that

1017
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,959
Speaker 1: trans comment where I was like, liking trans women doesn't

1018
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: because that's real though I've been with trans women, and like,

1019
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: there there's something very specific that y'all said that I

1020
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: really really appreciate it, which is, uh, there's a reason

1021
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: why gay men aren't attracted, like I said when I

1022
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: claimed them my gays have never been with a trans women,

1023
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: is because they don't want to. They don't want to

1024
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: be a woman, absolutely absolutely, and and uh another thing

1025
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,240
Speaker 1: you said that was wrong actually was that most trans

1026
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: women are end up being tops escorts, because well, yes

1027
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: I did so on average I was reading this, so

1028
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: it's not like wrong or right, but from reading articles

1029
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: um like confessions of trans women like female escorts generally,

1030
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: they said that they're topping because the men are playing

1031
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: out of fantasy because they want to be top. That

1032
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that they would choose to be tops, not choosing,

1033
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: but I'm saying the escorts are doing way more topping

1034
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 1: and even in relationships with men that they're starting to date,

1035
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: which is why they think they're being bet sized. They're

1036
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: doing the topping whether they want to be fucked or not.

1037
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: There generally doing topping always either it's couples, heterosexual couples

1038
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: that they're sleeping with that want them to top one

1039
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: or the other. But it's crazy that you guys say

1040
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 1: that because, um, so I actually went to fairy Tales,

1041
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 1: so we I mentioned this with the with the swinger

1042
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: um episode and so it's a trans sexual strip club

1043
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: in New York City. So I went there last night,

1044
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: and um, it was crazy because of course I've talked

1045
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: to them because I was like, I have a podcast,

1046
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,240
Speaker 1: I need to know what's going on. So they actually

1047
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: said majority of them don't even sleep with women, and

1048
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 1: not many of them are bisexual. They prefer only men.

1049
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 1: Um and all of these straight men because they identify

1050
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: as straight. All the straight men that I know who

1051
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: have been with trans women, trans trans women, yes, trans women, UM,

1052
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: they have topped them. So they have not bottomed a

1053
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: trans woman. They've they've been they they've topped them. So

1054
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 1: when I've been with trans women, I've been strictly a top,

1055
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 1: strictly a top. Okay, So I guess for this listener,

1056
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: I would like to say, UM, and it's something that

1057
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: we've said often on this show. I don't think you

1058
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: have to put yourself into any of these boxes. I

1059
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: feel like you're trying to find what box you fit in.

1060
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 1: And if you want to identify a straight, you can.

1061
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 1: If you want to say you're by you can. Um.

1062
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: If you want to say you're gay, I wouldn't put

1063
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: you in that box because you're still fucking and enjoying women,

1064
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 1: so you're not just a one track mine. But there

1065
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: are UM straight men or people men who identify a

1066
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: straight that do like their dick suck by men UM,

1067
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: and I know quite a lot of them. Actually, UM,

1068
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: they won't kiss the man, they won't be intimate with

1069
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: the man, they would never date a man, and they

1070
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: would never fuck or get fucked. But I know a

1071
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 1: lot of men who enjoy receiving head from other men.

1072
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,959
Speaker 1: But the kissing is like the kissing part is Lario

1073
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: like saying, I know because because they so my attention.

1074
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: It's so weird they bring it. I mean, I mean,

1075
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: if you're intimate. But just like I just it's stupid.

1076
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: You're getting your dick sacked by a dude, so what

1077
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: do you even kiss him? Now we're gonna be more mad.

1078
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: You're sharing bluntwin niggas, Like, I don't even understand. This

1079
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: is so stupid and I'm so tired of all y'all

1080
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: need to fucking figure out what you are. It's not necessary.

1081
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's something important about Like it's

1082
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: I hear people say like, oh, labels are limiting and

1083
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Well, labels also just help you identify shit.

1084
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: If you went to the to the supermarket you want

1085
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: to get a fucking box of fucking what are you

1086
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: saying just like vegetables to me, Broa, I'm saying whatever,

1087
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: Like look the example, imagine you go into the mark

1088
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: you want some fucking cinnamon toast crunch, but every box

1089
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 1: of cereal is just a plain white box that says cereal.

1090
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: That's when you realize how important labels are. Labels aren't

1091
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: because you want the super cereals, you know what I'm saying.

1092
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: It's just well, it's important to know that labels can

1093
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: be flexible. Labels also are there to help you identify.

1094
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: So what culture dictates as gay. I wouldn't say that

1095
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: this man is gay. He is somebody that may like

1096
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,439
Speaker 1: some things that are are on the on that side

1097
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: of the spectrum. But I would say that's more by

1098
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: it than anything. But before we get out of here,

1099
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: I wanted to read this last home mail. Um. It says, hi, ladies,

1100
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask a request from you both. I

1101
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: watched your show and listen to your podcast. Literally I've

1102
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 1: watched all episodes. I'm from a very strict Muslim slash

1103
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: African family. But the more I've listened to you both,

1104
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: the more I've started to look at sex and more importantly,

1105
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,280
Speaker 1: myself a lot differently. Just a little background about myself.

1106
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm a teacher, studied in California and now live in London.

1107
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: I've been a virgin up to the age of twenty six,

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00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: and I've had f g M, which is female genital mutilation,

1109
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: which is interesting because we just talked about um circumcision

1110
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: being mutilization. This is the partial or complete removal of

1111
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: the clip. Therefore, I have no clip, nothing, not a

1112
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 1: and those have exclamation points after them. I don't know

1113
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 1: how to be comfortable with men in bed. And I've

1114
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 1: never orgasm in my life, never, which is crazy because

1115
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: we had someone right in saying they couldn't stop orgasm.

1116
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: So pick which you know, end of the sword you

1117
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: like to fall on. It hurts me to write this,

1118
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 1: but it's true. I don't know how it feels like.

1119
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 1: And when I watch you guys talk about sex, I

1120
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: feel like I'm living through you guys. So wanted to

1121
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 1: say thank you so much. Your show means a lot

1122
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: to a lot of people around the world, and I

1123
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: hope you both know this. I wanted to write and

1124
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: say thank you so much for writing in it's letters

1125
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: like this um that that literally help me and Wheezy

1126
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: know that we're in the right path with the trajectory

1127
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: of this show and the purpose of this show. I

1128
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: also wanted to know that if anyone in New York

1129
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: City happens to have female genitalal mutilization and would like

1130
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: to come on and speak on it UM mutilization mutilation,

1131
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: lation mutilations there AZ, But if any of you guys

1132
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: have f GM and would like to come onto the show,

1133
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: please reach out to our email at Horrible Decisions at

1134
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: gmail dot com. She hit me up via d M

1135
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: and she says that she knows a few women, whether

1136
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: they're visiting New York or like, knows some in New

1137
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: York and I would love to bring them on. So

1138
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: following this, UM, the doctor that we both go to

1139
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: the guy No, actually called her office and UM got

1140
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: her personal email and asked and explained everything was like, Hey,

1141
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: I want to bring someone on. Can you help us

1142
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: talk her through this talk about how to have vaginal orgasms?

1143
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: Possibly if she's comfortable. Then I had up a sex therapist,

1144
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: like only because you know people right in with random

1145
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: questions all the time, but I thought this was so

1146
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: important and you never know who's listening, And like, can

1147
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: you imagine losing your clip? Like I'm watching handmade sale

1148
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: and they're doing that as punishment. That's that's all I

1149
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: play with when I watch porn is my clip. My

1150
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: I have t Rex arms so I can't reach to

1151
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: finger myself inside my pussy because my hands it just

1152
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: don't work that way. So I actually only play with

1153
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: my clips. So when I read this, I was just

1154
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: I felt bad, like kind of sad, like, oh my god,

1155
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: how But but I have um penetration orgasms like I

1156
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: come off being penetrated UM. So I have had orgasms

1157
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: without simulation of my clips, so I know it's possible

1158
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: for her. I do want to sit here and give

1159
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: a shout out to my friend Natalie Um. Natalie is

1160
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: a sexologist and hypno therapist that transform you from sexually

1161
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: conservatives to sexually empowered. Most of her clients have been

1162
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: through illness, abuse, shame and guilt, painful sex, sexual dysfunction,

1163
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: and are looking to be freed. She uses a combination

1164
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: of sex coaching and hypnotherapy to achieve this. She recently

1165
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: created the first deck of sexuality affirmation cards on the market.

1166
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: If you, if any of you guys are going to

1167
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: the Slot Walk in l A, She's actually gonna have

1168
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: a booth there. They help women reconnect with their body,

1169
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: restore their femininity, and reclaim the sexuality for the sexually

1170
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: empowered and confident woman. She has a line of merchandise

1171
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: with her tagline Orgasm Queen. They can be found at www.

1172
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: Love Chat with Nat dot com under shop UM. This

1173
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: is a good friend of mine from when I loved

1174
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: in Miami and I love what she's doing. UM. And

1175
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 1: so if any of you guys feel like you are

1176
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: having shame from sexual trauma or that you're not comfortable

1177
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: with talking about sex or feeling sexually liberated as a woman, UM,

1178
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: check out love Chat with Nat. She does do her

1179
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: hypnosis over the phone UM or remotely if you guys

1180
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: are looking UM to do that. So again, shout out

1181
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: to UM love Chat with Nat. And I want to

1182
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: thank again our guests for coming rich. Thank you so

1183
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: so so very much, thank you. UM. So by the way,

1184
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: y'all are right in and like, oh we listened to

1185
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: the show. Have me on? Me and my wife are crazy?

1186
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: Like are you crazy? Like that? Right? Want? I want

1187
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: to plug a resource for people that might think they

1188
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: are sex ated. Go ahead, and there is a website thing.

1189
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: It's called Recovery Zone dot com. If you just google

1190
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: sex addiction quiz uh, that's the first link that comes up,

1191
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: and it has a questionnaire. I think it's about like

1192
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: fifty sixty questions along. They have a free version and

1193
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: a paid version, and you can see how deep into

1194
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: the spectrum of sexuality you may fall, as far as

1195
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: like not very sexually conservative, or this is concerned just

1196
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: because you know what, I kind of wash you. They

1197
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: take that quick. It's it's on a scale we should take.

1198
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: It's on a scale of one to twenty, and I

1199
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: think at six is when you start getting into that threshold.

1200
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: Eighteen nigga. But I mean I drink in a bathroom. Yes,

1201
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: I have to go to sleep from masturbating, Like I

1202
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: don't have the same sleep. I have to come and

1203
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: feel tired to go to sleep. So I literally masturbate everything,

1204
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: even on my period. I'll just put it. I just

1205
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: put a towel. I'm gonna I'm gonna call it right now.

1206
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say you, guys, between eight and a ten,

1207
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: only eight and ago to twenty. You don't know the

1208
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: questions though, so okay, you'd be surprised. Would you rather

1209
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: eat a dick or a pizza? Not like what that's

1210
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 1: the type of question. If you want to dick and

1211
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: a pizza pizza, I'll eat that. I'd eat the pizzer.

1212
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: I'm getting I'm not gonna ride. Y'all know I don't ride, um,

1213
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: But anyway, I got one more things, but this is

1214
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: this is personal ship. I also have my own podcast

1215
01:01:55,200 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: to everybody got a podcast podcast? No, say podcast, It's no,

1216
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: It's completely unrelated to sexes. I do mixed martial arts.

1217
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: I've been training and boxing, m A all that other

1218
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: stuff for a very long time. And I have a

1219
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: show called Super Upper Punch that is about thank you.

1220
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: It's about martial arts and combat sports. What's different about

1221
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: this from a lot of other shows that talk about

1222
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: like fights and stuff is I talk about UM. I

1223
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: talk with people that are involved with like the more

1224
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: people facing side of It's like, uh, had somebody on

1225
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: that runs a grappling tournament that raises money for cancer research,

1226
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: or somebody else has a donation based jiu jitsu jim

1227
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: things like that. So check it out. It's called Super

1228
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: Upper Punch R on iTunes, Google plays. Super also very

1229
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: artickle it and I think that our listeners you also

1230
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: very articulate. I mean sucking all my words, but I'm

1231
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: awful on Rose and I just worked already, and I

1232
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 1: the way, I just don't have to leave theses and

1233
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: you know, I'm she's not a drinker. I am impressive,

1234
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: But it's also because she's about to record another episode

1235
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 1: and there's a strong black man standing in the corner. Okay,

1236
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just saying. By the way, you guys,

1237
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 1: we are at Gotham Podcast Studio, one hundred Church Street.

1238
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: If you ever need a place in New York to

1239
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: record your show, if you want to invite us on

1240
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,959
Speaker 1: his guest uh, come through here. It's a great place

1241
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: to record. They also have video and I'm doing their

1242
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: seminar on when is it Matt September fifteen. Um. Tickets

1243
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: will be out by the time you guys see this episode,

1244
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 1: watch this episode, listen to his episode. You can check

1245
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 1: out my page Wheezy WTF and get some tickets someone.

1246
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: They also do one offs guys. So, um, I was

1247
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: just on a podcast who recorded here called two and

1248
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: a Possible. Um. She called me out because she knew

1249
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: that I only went on the podcast because she was fine.

1250
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: So I was trying to hollow just to find out

1251
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: she lived in Orlando and literally she comes up to

1252
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: New York once a month. That's the girl who she

1253
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 1: so yes by Yeah, bit, well that's who I ran

1254
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: to after we recorded with Rory, I literally called her.

1255
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: I was like, on the reason I came on his

1256
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: podcast because he was fine, just for her to tell

1257
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: me she lives in Orlando. Here she lives in oran

1258
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 1: And and every time she comes to New York, which

1259
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 1: is once a month, she records all of her episodes

1260
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: here at Gotham pot She's gonna have to have a

1261
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: place to stay. You look, and here goes to sex.

1262
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: I thought, you're saying you you should be like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't want all that money, Vanilla. So if you

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Speaker 1: guys want to listen to when I Vanilla, how was

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Speaker 1: sad and had a boyfriend? I said, but you should

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Speaker 1: have told me this in the d M. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have came. Um. But if you guys want to listen

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Speaker 1: to a very vanilla um kind of response to kind

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Speaker 1: of sex. Um. I was on a podcast called too

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Speaker 1: in Impossible so that should be dropping soon. It was

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Speaker 1: super cute. I possible feels like too and impossible to impossible,

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Speaker 1: but we'd be having us to un impossible. We all

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Speaker 1: know who the impossible, the possible of the guest, but

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Speaker 1: why are they called it possible because to impossible? Wa wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: wait wait, do you not play spades? Have you never

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Speaker 1: played spades? Don't take my black card? Your black card

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Speaker 1: is removed six two an apossible. So the black guy

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Speaker 1: in the room is shaking and you're not to play spades. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're playing to know how to play spades. Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: all I mean that said. Um, black people never teach

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Speaker 1: you how to space like play space is repeat. Oh

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Speaker 1: you don't know how well we're gonna teach you how.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what is over. Wheezy will get in

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Speaker 1: a game of spades. She won't be my partner, but

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Speaker 1: I'll make sure. I'll make sure how to play. Anyways, guys,

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Speaker 1: thank you rich so much from I hate you. Of

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Speaker 1: course you will you you know well, they're new you

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Speaker 1: paid for me, man, They're not new, they're five years

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Speaker 1: little bit of toddlers. They're broken in. Thanks for coming

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Speaker 1: onto the episode, which we appreciate you. If you guys

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Speaker 1: have any questions again, want to reach out to us,

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Speaker 1: You guys can always follow us on UM on our

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Speaker 1: Instagram at Horrible Underscore Decisions. You can follow me at

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Speaker 1: full court pumps everywhere and where can they follow you?

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Speaker 1: We don't follow her, all right, that's fine to um.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead and also follow our Twitter at Horrible Pod,

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Speaker 1: which is ran by Weezy, So for all y'all alchemy

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Speaker 1: about why Weezy and got a Twitter. She follows the

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Speaker 1: Horrible Pod page. While you're walking out, I want to

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Speaker 1: thank everybody. I was giving away some back to school stuff.

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Speaker 1: I always try to start a chain of donations, whether

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Speaker 1: be back to school ship or Christmas. Thank you so much. Um,

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Speaker 1: I only spent a few hundred dollars, but so much

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Speaker 1: money donated from different men and women. I'm like trying

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Speaker 1: to think of all the names, but it was so

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Speaker 1: many of you. All try to shout you guys out

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Speaker 1: in a description or something, but sending kids backpacks, clothes, everything.

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Speaker 1: I had a girl write me that listens to our show,

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Speaker 1: Mandy this noble shit. She lives in her car. It's

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Speaker 1: been the last three months. This is just it is

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Speaker 1: what it is. Her kids stay with her family and

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Speaker 1: she goes to pick them up and in her car

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Speaker 1: and she says when she's driving around, she listened to

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Speaker 1: our show. Fucking yeah, that's deep. Like the letters that

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Speaker 1: we get from our listeners are amazing. But thank you guys,

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Speaker 1: that really helped me with that. If you guys ever

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Speaker 1: want to start an Instagram chain, all I did was

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Speaker 1: just offered to give things to my followers and other

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Speaker 1: followers want to help, and we ended helping sixty five kids,

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Speaker 1: which isn't a lot, but it's a crazy amount of

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Speaker 1: I'm really grateful for you guys. Thank you for being

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Speaker 1: listeners and wanting to help me in my interest too.

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Speaker 1: And we love you. And we don't always do whole ship,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Some kids, So we read books,

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Speaker 1: we give donations, we support fucking charities, and sheet we

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Speaker 1: are here trying to let y'all know hos do well.

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Speaker 1: We use our last live show and donated to Survive

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Speaker 1: to Thrive Global, which helps domestic um victims. Domestic song.

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Speaker 1: I'm drunk and I gotta go back to work, so

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Speaker 1: this is not good. So guys, I'm actually running out

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Speaker 1: of here. I'm it's busy season, so it is now

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Speaker 1: eight o'clock at night and I'm running back to the office.

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Speaker 1: But