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Speaker 1: Hello America, Welcome to the Friday edition of Just the News,

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Speaker 1: no Noise. I'm your host tonight, Amanda Head and every

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Speaker 1: night my co host and editor in chief of Just

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Speaker 1: the News, John Solomon. He's out on assignment tonight, and

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Speaker 1: over here at Just the News have been very hard

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Speaker 1: at work sifting through all of those now declassified Crossfire

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Speaker 1: Hurricane documents that FBI Director Cash Mattel delivered to Congress,

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Speaker 1: and they have found some stunning things. We're going to

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Speaker 1: talk more about it all later in the show with

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Speaker 1: the man who is working with John to bring everything

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Speaker 1: to light, Jerry Dunleavy.

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Speaker 2: But first I want to.

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Speaker 1: Give you a little primer about what they found so far,

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Speaker 1: and let's just say it is pretty damning for the

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Speaker 1: mainstream media that was covering the Russia collusion hoax for

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Speaker 1: so long and really really trying to hammer it in.

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Speaker 1: For example, remember the Washington Post story titled Trump asked

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Speaker 1: Intelligent Chiefs Intelligence chiefs to push back against FBI collusion

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Speaker 1: probe after Comy revealed its existence. Now, that story helped

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Speaker 1: win a Pulitzer Prize, the highest award that you can

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Speaker 1: achieve in journalism, for reporting that President Trump during his

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Speaker 1: first term was using intelligence officials to help stop an

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Speaker 1: FBI investigation into his twenty sixteen campaign and Russian officials. Now,

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Speaker 1: to be fair, that would be a big story and

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Speaker 1: possibly worthy of winning a Pulitzer if it were true.

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Speaker 1: But unfortunately for the Washington Post, in the Crossfire Hurricane

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Speaker 1: documents that were obtained by Just the News, it turns

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Speaker 1: out that one of the people the Post wrote about

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Speaker 1: in that story, National Security Agency Director Mike Rodgers, directly refuted.

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Speaker 2: It, saying it was quote wrong. Now, what we.

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Speaker 1: Don't know is if the Washington Post knew that Rogers

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Speaker 1: But we do know that a month after it was published,

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Speaker 1: Special Council Robert Muller's team that was the Post that

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Speaker 1: what the Post wrote in there about him was not right,

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Speaker 1: that it was inaccurate. Now here's the line from the

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Speaker 1: Post article that was read to Rogers, quote, President Trump

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Speaker 1: evidence of collusion during the twenty sixteen election unquote. Now,

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Speaker 1: Rogers said in the interview that the media characterization was

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Speaker 1: existence of signals, intelligence or sigant evidence only Now this episode,

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Speaker 1: it gives us another example of how the Russiagate investigation worked,

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Speaker 1: with the FBI bringing apparently incorrect journalism from the Washington

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Speaker 1: also know, thanks to the declassified documents and the efforts

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Speaker 1: that a key FBI informant in the Russia collusion hoax

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Speaker 1: That payment was not just for Crossfire Hurricane investigation, but

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Speaker 1: over three decades, still pretty lucrative. Now that informant was

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Speaker 1: Helper's account to be not plausible and not accurate, but

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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna have much more.

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Speaker 1: On all of this a little bit later, but it

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Speaker 1: is time now to get to our very first guests

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Speaker 1: and everything that went on up on Capitol Hill this week.

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Speaker 1: building that big, beautiful bill. And joining us now to

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Speaker 1: talk about all of that is Congresswoman representing the Great

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Speaker 1: State of Iowa. Marionette Miller Meeks, Congresswoman, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for being here, Amanda.

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Speaker 3: Great to be with you.

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Speaker 4: And all I can say about these revolutions or shocking,

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Speaker 4: shocking that there would be gambling in Cosablanca. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's just unreal the level of deception and corruption that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's such an indictment on the field of journalism,

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Speaker 1: and the field of journalism is something that Capitol Hill

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Speaker 2: Comes to reporting.

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Speaker 1: So for you as a member of Congress, when you

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Speaker 4: Well, in addition to which what you and John do

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Speaker 4: you know every single day is to be a check

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Speaker 3: You're the fourth estate, and it's not supposed to.

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Speaker 4: Be government only by Republicans, it's government in general. That's

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Speaker 4: how you expose corruption, that's how you stop corruption. That's

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Speaker 4: what makes it deterrent, is that things like this will

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Speaker 4: get exposed. But when you have the media colluding with

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Speaker 4: no wonder the media and government has such low approval ratings.

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Speaker 4: It's just as I said, you know, it would be shocking,

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Speaker 4: but it is also just tremendously disappointing. And it's one

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Speaker 3: And when I get yelled at, and you know, I

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Speaker 4: Take fake town halls talking to me and had a

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Speaker 4: so they could tell me how concerned they were about democracy.

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Speaker 4: And all I can say is that it was not

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Speaker 4: this administration or this president is not President Trump that

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Speaker 4: was pressuring private companies to censor, to deplatform, to suppress information.

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Speaker 4: That was the Biden administration. That was the Democrats with

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Speaker 4: majorities in the House and the Senate and the White House. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: Unreal, Yeah, I think that's spot on.

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Speaker 1: And look no further than the Tesla dealerships and Tesla

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Speaker 1: owners across this country who's vehicle are getting torched and

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Speaker 2: But it's the Party of Inclusion, right.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you, let's switch to a happier subject,

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Speaker 1: the Say Act that you cosponsored to pass through the House.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations to you, a very very important bill. But Congresswoman,

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Speaker 1: I continue to hear Democrats say, oh my goodness, these

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Speaker 2: I'll just leave that there. Amen, Yeah, when have they

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Speaker 1: And that actually has nothing to do with this, because

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Speaker 1: the example that I heard from Eric Swalwell was what

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Speaker 1: problem before you're married. That's before you change your name,

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Speaker 1: so that's not even a valid comparison. But you only

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Speaker 1: need these documents to actually register. You don't have to

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Speaker 4: Exactly you need your birth You know, it's not unusual

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Speaker 4: to need your birth certificates for various things.

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Speaker 3: You need it.

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Speaker 4: You know, I had people on social media say, well,

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Speaker 4: what does your birth certificate show? My birth certificate shows

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Speaker 4: piralng California, USA. That's not my birth certigate shows that

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Speaker 4: I am a US citizen board in the United States.

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Speaker 4: You know, there shouldn't this should not be a question

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Speaker 4: to talk about voter oppression because we're going to ask

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Speaker 3: Think about this.

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Speaker 4: You know, all through COVID, you had to show show

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Speaker 4: to catch a plane. You know, but what yet we

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Speaker 4: want to talk about the most important thing we do

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Speaker 4: for our democracy, which is to vote. They already want,

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Speaker 4: in federal elections. Absolutely not. I'm proud to have cosponsored

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Speaker 4: the bill. It's already illegal to be done. We just

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Speaker 3: But we need to get this. It's over the Senate now.

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Speaker 4: Sponsored it, proudly voted for it, just like we're codifying

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Speaker 3: But yeah, this is.

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Speaker 4: Just insane to me that they do not see Number one,

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Speaker 4: the hypocrisy which they don't care about. Number Two, they

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Speaker 4: You'll continue to be able to vote. It's amazing to

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Speaker 4: me what stories they come up with. But you know,

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Speaker 3: This is in the same vein.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, indeed, and I think the account that I saw

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out because it doesn't matter if you

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Speaker 1: look at Gallup, Quinnipiac, Susquehanna, Harvard Care, Harris Caps, any

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Speaker 2: When you vote.

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Speaker 1: So for a Democrat who voted against this, what do

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Speaker 4: District wants exactly? It is hugely popular. Number one. So

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Speaker 4: is voter ID. And every time we passed voter integrity

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Speaker 4: election law changes in Iowa, we had more people voting

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Speaker 4: in the next election. When people know that their vote counts,

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Speaker 4: that their vote is secure, they vote.

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Speaker 3: So it actually helps people to get out to vote.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know if the Democrats think that this

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Speaker 4: is some kind of pro immigrant stance. You want to

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Speaker 4: know who else is supportive of both voter ID and

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Speaker 4: no illegal aliens voting? Immigrants, immigrants who came here legally,

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Speaker 4: immigrants who have done the very hard process to assimilate,

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Speaker 4: to learn the language, to learn the constitution, to learn

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Speaker 3: We just have a friend who.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 1: As many of you know, I left my post in

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Speaker 1: But chief investigative correspondent here at justin News, Jerry Dunleavy.

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Speaker 6: Russia ecclusion, that story was based on nothing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's pretty incredible it's obviously damning for

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Speaker 1: the industry of journalism. So this story came out I

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Speaker 1: think it was published in Waypo May of twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 1: I know, we don't know now if they knew that

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Speaker 1: this was a false story when they published it. But

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Speaker 1: do you think we will do you think that in

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Speaker 1: subsequent document releases, or maybe we have to go a

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Speaker 1: different avenue. Maybe we have to target people at Washington

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Speaker 1: Post or former maybe disgrundled employees. How do we find

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Speaker 1: out if they actually knew that they were publishing something false.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be tough to tell.

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Speaker 6: I can tell you that this is one of the

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Speaker 6: number of questions that I posed to The Washington Post

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Speaker 6: today and didn't get an answer on. Oh shock, So

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Speaker 6: hopefully we do get some sort of clarity from them.

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Speaker 6: I asked them, did you know at the time that

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Speaker 6: your story was being disputed by the person who was

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Speaker 6: on the phone call with President Trump? I asked them

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Speaker 6: if they learned at any point that Mike Rogers had

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Speaker 6: disputed their story, And then I of course asked them

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Speaker 6: if they're now going to issue correction on their story

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Speaker 6: so that anyone that revisits this story in the future

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Speaker 6: will know that the central allegation in the story about

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Speaker 6: this phone call between Trump and his National Security Agency director,

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Speaker 6: so that anyone that visits in the future will know

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Speaker 6: that that Rodgers said that the story isn't true. So

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Speaker 6: we'll find out. But yeah, this is a story that

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Speaker 6: they want a Pulitzer Prize on. And so I also

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Speaker 6: asked a Politzer Prize Board.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 6: Politzer Prize Board claims that they did a review of

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Speaker 6: all these stories and found that they were all sound

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Speaker 6: and great and groundbreaking, and wels I asked them, well,

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Speaker 6: here's one of the one of their stories is has

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Speaker 6: been knocked down by the main subject of the story.

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Speaker 6: So what are you guys going to do now?

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Speaker 1: Well, I imagine that when Washington Post got your email

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Speaker 1: today they saw Jerry Dunleavy in the cinderbox. And we're

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Speaker 1: already a little nervous about responding to you very quickly

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Speaker 1: before I let you go. Jerry, you've been in this

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Speaker 1: industry for a while. You have done such great work

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Speaker 1: and revealed some really really incredible things in this job.

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Speaker 1: For you, as a journalist does does seeing this story

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Speaker 1: and seeing how Washington Post has reacted and seeing how

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Speaker 1: the Pulitzer Board has reacted. Does it Does it dull

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Speaker 1: the shine of a pulitzer for you?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean a pulitzer is meaningless and worthless. I mean,

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Speaker 6: it's just yeah, you know, it's just you. You look

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Speaker 6: at you look at the you look at the the

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Speaker 6: the awards given to the New York Times and the

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Speaker 6: Washington Post. They got the award in twenty eighteen for

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Speaker 6: their reporting in twenty seventeen. And you know, today I

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Speaker 6: spent some time going through all of those stories, and

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Speaker 6: you know, the role that the media played in helping

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Speaker 6: keep this baseless story of collusion going. You know, the

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Speaker 6: role that the media played in this cannot be understated

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Speaker 6: because by the time that early twenty seventeen rolled around,

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Speaker 6: the FBI and the US intelligence community knew that there

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Speaker 6: was nothing to these claims of Russian collusion. They knew

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Speaker 6: that the Steele dossier was baseless, had no merit to

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Speaker 6: it was fake. But it was the media that played

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Speaker 6: a significant role in keeping this thing going, in helping

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Speaker 6: the FBI and the people pushing this get this turned

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Speaker 6: into a special Counsel investigation and letting it then drag

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Speaker 6: on for two more years despite there being no evidence,

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Speaker 6: and so yeah, pullets are not quite so valuable anymore

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Speaker 6: because of the central role that the media played in

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Speaker 6: pushing one of the you know, one of the bigger

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Speaker 6: political scandals in modern history.

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Speaker 2: I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: I think it would have flat lined if the mainstream

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Speaker 1: media had not continued defibrillating it and bringing it back

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Speaker 1: to life. Spot on, Jerry Dunleavy, as always, you know what,

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Speaker 1: if the pulitzer had credibility, once again, I would say

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Speaker 1: you should get them.

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Speaker 2: You should get one.

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Speaker 3: You are too kind yet again. But thank you, Jerry.

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Speaker 1: I know that you were planning on hitting the road

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Speaker 1: with your family. I hope we didn't delay you too much.

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Speaker 1: Tell your family that we very much appreciate.

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Speaker 3: It, appreciating on anytime.

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Speaker 2: Thanks you money.

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Speaker 1: All right, everybody coming up, the new Congressman Randy Fine

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Speaker 1: from the great state of Florida is going to be here.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody to just the news, no noise. We

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Speaker 1: have a lot more for you on the congressional front.

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Speaker 1: With one of Congress's newest members. He won one of

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Speaker 1: those special elections down in Florida recently. Now Congressman Randy Fine,

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Speaker 1: Congressman and welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for being.

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Speaker 3: Here, Thanks for having me, honor to be here.

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Speaker 2: It's an honor to have you.

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Speaker 1: And I know that for some members of Congress, the

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Speaker 1: first week can be about as exciting as watching paint dry.

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Speaker 2: But this time around, it was a whirlwind.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 7: Look, we're not only trying to get our district's offices

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Speaker 7: set up, our DC office set up, but we walked

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Speaker 7: into a real big week in Congress and was excited

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Speaker 7: that my vote was the deciding vote in making sure

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Speaker 7: we could get President Trump's big beautiful reconciliation bill moving

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Speaker 7: forward in the process.

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Speaker 3: So it was a heck of a.

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Speaker 2: Week, absolutely to be that deciding vote.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that is a that should add an

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Speaker 1: extra pin to your lapel.

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Speaker 2: I feel like regarding that big.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful bill when it comes to what will inevitably be

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Speaker 1: some horse trading, some robbing Peter to pay Paul, how cantankris,

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Speaker 1: do you anticipate or how rancorous I guess I should say,

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Speaker 1: do you anticipate that process is going to be moving

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Speaker 1: through the summer?

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Speaker 7: Well, I think it depends on how people think about this,

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Speaker 7: if they think about politics or they think about their children. See,

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Speaker 7: I look at this very simply. Every dollar we borrow

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Speaker 7: that we don't have is a dollar that we are

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Speaker 7: expecting our children, not just children in a theoretical sense,

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Speaker 7: the children that we have living with us at home,

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Speaker 7: that they have to pay back.

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Speaker 3: And it is not generous and it is not kind,

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Speaker 3: and it is not nice.

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Speaker 7: To take money from your kids to pay for things

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Speaker 7: that you want to buy today. So I think if

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Speaker 7: people have the right approach and how they think about it,

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Speaker 7: we ought to be able to find an awful lot

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Speaker 7: of cuts to make sure we get our budget and balance.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And something that would say the American people a

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Speaker 1: lot of money and also a lot of heartache when

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Speaker 1: it comes to crime coming across the border is making

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Speaker 1: sure that there is not wholesale import on illegal immigrants

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Speaker 1: across our southern border for the purpose of voting. You

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Speaker 1: guys accomplished that this week with the save vote, very

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Speaker 1: important to election integrity. Democrats have wasted no time acting

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Speaker 1: like this is an oppression move by Republicans.

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Speaker 3: Tell us about it, Well, Democrats lie. They can't win honestly,

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Speaker 3: so they have to cheat.

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Speaker 7: And I think we saw data this week that suggested

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Speaker 7: there are millions of illegal immigrants that have been given

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Speaker 7: Social Security numbers, and which you can do all sorts

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Speaker 7: of things with the fact of the matter is it

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Speaker 7: is not an unreasonable expectation to ask someone to prove

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Speaker 7: that they're an American in order to get the most

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Speaker 7: important right that we have as citizen's the right to vote.

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Speaker 7: And why people are so concerned about people having to

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Speaker 7: prove that they're Americans, I can't understand it. If you

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Speaker 7: can't prove that you're an American, you shouldn't be able

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Speaker 7: to vote. This shouldn't be controversial. And the only reason

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Speaker 7: I can see that Democrats oppose it is they want

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Speaker 7: to cheat.

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Speaker 1: I think that's probably spot on, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: what a lot of Americans view it as It's become

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Speaker 1: pretty transparent at this point. I want to ask you

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Speaker 1: about what is going to be taking place this weekend

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Speaker 1: supposedly direct talks with Iran. Now, President Trump and the

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Speaker 1: White House claim that these are going to be direct.

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Speaker 1: Iran keeps countering, saying they're going to be indirect. I

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Speaker 1: happen to know from Iran negotiations in the past that

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Speaker 1: they want them to be indirect because they don't want

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Speaker 1: to be held accountable face to face for basically flouting

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Speaker 1: everything that they have ever promised to do.

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Speaker 2: What do you want to see come from these talks

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Speaker 2: this weekend?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think I want a few things.

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Speaker 7: Number One, we want to make sure Iran never has

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Speaker 7: a nuclear weapon, and that has to be an issue

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Speaker 7: and that has to go, that has to be resolved

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Speaker 7: one hundred percent. Number two is Iran has got to

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Speaker 7: stop funding terrorism around the Middle East and around the globe.

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Speaker 7: And number three is Iran has to demand that their

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Speaker 7: proxies Hamas release the fifty nine hostages that they are

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Speaker 7: still holding in Gaza.

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Speaker 3: I mean, those are the three key things, and.

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Speaker 7: I hope President Trump says that tells them if you

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Speaker 7: don't do it, you're not going to like what comes next.

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Speaker 2: I want to stay on that topic, sort of a

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Speaker 2: peripheral topic.

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Speaker 1: For for a moment, my Mood Khalil. President Trump just

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Speaker 1: got a big victory in the court saying that he

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Speaker 1: can perceive that this administration can proceed with deporting Mahmoud Khalil.

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Speaker 1: To me, this is not a First Amendment issue in

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Speaker 1: a legal sense.

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Speaker 2: It's perjury.

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Speaker 1: He lied on his visa application, saying he was coming

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Speaker 1: here for education, but he clearly came here to sow

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Speaker 1: discord and to be an activist leader. Does this send

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Speaker 1: a strong enough message to folks on other college campuses

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Speaker 1: that you can't intimidate and threaten Jewish students and blame

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Speaker 1: it on the First Amendment.

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Speaker 3: Well, I hope so.

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Speaker 7: I mean, look, I think the fundamental issue we have

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Speaker 7: is two world views. Democrats believe that there are seven

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Speaker 7: billion people in the world who show all have the

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Speaker 7: right to come to America whenever they want, act however

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Speaker 7: they want, and get all the free stuff that they want.

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Speaker 7: That's just a fantasy world of sunshine and rainbows and

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Speaker 7: unicorns and pixie dust.

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Speaker 3: I look at this very differently.

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Speaker 7: If you come to America on a visa, you are

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Speaker 7: our guest, and when I go into someone's house, I

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Speaker 7: don't behave like a jerk. And what we've had is

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Speaker 7: we've had Muslim terrorists to the Uited States and act

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Speaker 7: like jerks. They hate our country, they hate Israel, they

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Speaker 7: hate our students, and look, as a Jewish American myself

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Speaker 7: and one of a very small number of elected Jewish Republicans,

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Speaker 7: I find the behavior offensive. If you want to trash Israel,

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Speaker 7: if you want to trash our friends, if you want

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Speaker 7: to threaten Jewish students, stay at home. Where it turns out,

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Speaker 7: you're oftentimes welcome to do it. But I'm thrilled that

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Speaker 7: guy's being tossed out in every other supporter of Hamas

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Speaker 7: and Hesbalah and American hating students should be rounded up

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Speaker 7: and set home tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And you know, in this instance, it's obviously someone

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Speaker 1: who is deeply anti Semitic, But it really doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: which side we're talking about. But what's amazing to me

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Speaker 1: is where the Democrat Party is right now. I don't

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Speaker 1: think ten or twenty years ago ago I could have

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Speaker 1: predicted the Democrats would be keeping someone like this and

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Speaker 1: others because it's not just him, that they would be

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Speaker 1: the ones keeping them in this country. Does it surprise

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Speaker 1: you this about face that has happened pretty precipitously.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think you've got a strain of the Democratic

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Speaker 7: Party that hates America. I mean, I think they fundamentally

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Speaker 7: believe that we are not a good place, and so

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Speaker 7: they support people who hate it. I think it's very sad,

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Speaker 7: and I don't believe all Democrats feel this way. But

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Speaker 7: that is the very loud majority, and you can see it.

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Speaker 7: They believe it's okay to destroy Elon Musk's cars or

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Speaker 7: scream down.

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Speaker 3: Us when they speak.

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Speaker 7: You have this virulent, dangerous anti American group of people,

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Speaker 7: and so they celebrate people like Mahmood Khalil who hate

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Speaker 7: America because they hate it themselves, and they hate everything

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Speaker 7: that makes up Western civilization, which fundamentally, all of these things,

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Speaker 7: all of these values that we have are Judeo Christian values.

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Speaker 7: They all start in the Old Testament, they all start

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Speaker 7: with Jews, and so of course they hate all of

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Speaker 7: these things.

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Speaker 3: And I say, get them out of our country and

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Speaker 3: send them home. We do not want to end up

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Speaker 3: like Great Britain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, you can protest peacefully in this country,

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Speaker 1: but as we I saw on numerous college campuses, blocking

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Speaker 1: Jewish students from being able to attend their classes and

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Speaker 1: live their lives and having them living in fear, that

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Speaker 1: is not what the First Amendment is about. Congressman, before

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Speaker 1: I let you go, I know you are very passionate

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Speaker 1: about making those Trump tax cuts permanent. This is something

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Speaker 1: that the American people, I think are fully on board with.

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Speaker 1: Regardless of whether they will admit it or not. How

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Speaker 1: on board do you think the Republican majority is with

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Speaker 1: building those into this bill and making sure that they're

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Speaker 1: locked in.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think they're on board with that.

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Speaker 7: The challenge has been I think as I see it

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Speaker 7: as the new guy, is cutting spending. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 7: giving people more of their money back is it tends

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Speaker 7: to be a popular thing to do.

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Speaker 3: Cutting spending is harder. So I think that's where the

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Speaker 3: challenges are going to be.

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Speaker 7: But they shouldn't be hard. We shouldn't be giving three

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Speaker 7: hundred year old social Security. We shouldn't be sending fifty

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Speaker 7: million dollar boxes of condoms around the world. I mean,

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Speaker 7: there is so much waste and abuse in Washington. I've

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Speaker 7: just seen it in my first week there, just trying

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Speaker 7: to become a federal employee.

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Speaker 3: How crazy things are.

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Speaker 7: There is plenty of opportunity to cut Look if I

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Speaker 7: was a government worker that'd been sitting at home for

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Speaker 7: the last four years not doing much, I might be worried.

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Speaker 7: But for Americans that pay the bills, there's a lot

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Speaker 7: of good things to do. And I think we're going

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Speaker 7: to get there when we get this bill done.

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Speaker 1: All right before I let you go. You're looking at

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Speaker 1: all of this with fresh eyes up on Capitol Hill?

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Speaker 1: Was it what you expected?

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Speaker 3: It's extraordinary to be in a place, you know.

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Speaker 7: When I was sixteen years old, I was a page

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Speaker 7: for the House of Representatives for a year. To come

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Speaker 7: back thirty five years later and to put on my

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Speaker 7: wall the seal of a member of Congress, my mom

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Speaker 7: suggested I buy thirty five years ago. I thought she

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Speaker 7: was crazy. It's been sitting in my closet for thirty

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Speaker 7: five years to put that on the wall of my office.

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Speaker 7: It's now a museum piece. Apparently that was a really

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Speaker 7: special moment. A lot of people sacrifice a lot to

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Speaker 7: do this job. And what I'm going to do is

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Speaker 7: try to make God and my family proud of the

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Speaker 7: work that I do.

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Speaker 1: Man, moms always know, they always kind of have a

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Speaker 1: feeling about these things. Congressman Randy Vine, thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for being here.

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Speaker 2: With us tonight.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, everybody, we've got a few more blocks,

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Speaker 1: so we're going to take a quick break and we'll

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Speaker 1: go it back. Welcome back to just the news, no noise, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Easter is right around the corner. And if you're looking

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Speaker 1: for ways to give back, I want to share with

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Speaker 1: you a company that is working toward a few great causes,

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Speaker 1: donating to faith based initiatives as well as conservation efforts.

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Speaker 1: I am, of course talking about Wire to Fish Coffee,

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Speaker 1: one of our great sponsors here at Just the News

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Speaker 1: and joining us now to talk more about what they

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Speaker 1: are doing from Wire to Fish. Leiah Thomas Leah, great

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Speaker 1: to see, thanks for being here.

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Speaker 8: Well, thanks for having me Amanda.

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Speaker 1: All Right, you just gave me some really great news

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Speaker 1: that you guys are getting some global interest people who

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Speaker 1: want to build your brand out across across the world

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Speaker 1: and outside of US shores.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's pretty exciting. We've had a couple of inquiries

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Speaker 9: come in and they say that they find our business

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Speaker 9: model interesting because we give back and we care so much.

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Speaker 9: And I think that's we're making a ripple out there,

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Speaker 9: and it's pretty exciting to think that we can be

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Speaker 9: a global brand soon and really be impacting a lot

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Speaker 9: of projects in a way major way than we are now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you use the term ripple, which of course

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Speaker 1: evokes visions of fishing, and that is a huge part

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Speaker 1: of your platform called Wired to fish. Tell us about

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Speaker 1: some of those conservation efforts. I love the Filter Project.

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Speaker 9: Yes, we have an effort in Nairobi, Kenya that and

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Speaker 9: honestly we're going to get to go. I think with

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Speaker 9: the Filter Project in July, it's looking like they supply

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Speaker 9: clean water filters to both the slums of Kitali.

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Speaker 8: And then a little rural area.

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Speaker 9: Called Surinde that they hope to pour about thirty five

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Speaker 9: hundred filters into that area and also just talk about

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Speaker 9: Jesus with the people. So it's given people clean water

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Speaker 9: that are drinking out of a puddle and helping them

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Speaker 9: live a better quality of life. And we're really excited

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Speaker 9: about the opportunity to experience that particular project. We also

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Speaker 9: are partnering with some new camps to reach children in

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Speaker 9: the summertime with the gospel, and we expect to each

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Speaker 9: at least five hundred kids and a mountain camp in Buffalo,

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Speaker 9: Wyoming outside of here this summer called Camp Bethel. And

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Speaker 9: we also work with North Carolina to help them with

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Speaker 9: their fisheries and planting wildlife and plant life.

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Speaker 8: Sorry I can't plant wildlife, but it'd be cool.

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Speaker 9: I'm planting plant life into their fisheries so that their

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Speaker 9: general ecosystems improve. And we're also just always looking for

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Speaker 9: more projects those in those conservation areas.

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Speaker 8: They're a challenge to find.

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Speaker 9: It's really interesting to me we find that we can

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Speaker 9: find a lot more faith based stuff than conservation, but

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Speaker 9: we still just scrape it all the edge as we

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Speaker 9: can find.

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Speaker 1: I know, and you guys do such important work. You

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Speaker 1: mentioned that thirty five hundred filters. That's a lot of filters.

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Speaker 1: How many people's worth of water does that clean?

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Speaker 9: Well, it's going to be a household of at least

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Speaker 9: four Typically the filters last forever.

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Speaker 8: I mean they last years and years and years.

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Speaker 9: The project itself is one hundred and ninety six thousand

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Speaker 9: dollars project and they estimate that it'll take about seventeen

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Speaker 9: months to complete. We hope to accelerate that, especially if

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Speaker 9: we can get some global distribution.

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Speaker 8: We're really wanting to be able to move that along

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Speaker 8: for them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know that when people make a purchase

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Speaker 1: that Wired to Fish coffee that you guys donate a

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Speaker 1: portion of those proceeds to the project, right we do.

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Speaker 9: We give back eighteen percent to faith based initiatives and

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Speaker 9: the Filter Project falls into that just because of their

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Speaker 9: aspect of spreading the gospel. I love that it hits

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Speaker 9: both bases though. And then we give an eight percent

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Speaker 9: to conservation initiatives around the United States. So we're committed

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Speaker 9: to we're committed to making the world better in a

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Speaker 9: variety of ways, and we're growing.

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Speaker 8: It's exciting.

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Speaker 1: I love that on the faith side of things, when

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Speaker 1: you're in Nairobi and you're installing these filters and providing

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Speaker 1: beautiful crystal clear water for these folks and you're having

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Speaker 1: these faith conversations, do you find that it's pretty easy

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Speaker 1: to start that conversation.

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Speaker 2: I think it is.

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Speaker 9: You know, one thing about these countries is they have

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Speaker 9: a lot more belief in supernatural things, and so we

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Speaker 9: find it's actually a little bit easier to talk to

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Speaker 9: people about Jesus there and just how much he loves

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Speaker 9: them and he's there for them in a very real

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Speaker 9: way than we can in the United States so many times,

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Speaker 9: which is ironic to me often, but we have a

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Speaker 9: team of people on the ground that are trustworthy, which

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Speaker 9: is also very critical because a lot of these areas

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Speaker 9: have been spoiled by American missionaries that didn't have good

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Speaker 9: intention and so we try to get locals on the

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Speaker 9: ground that are also very credible and love Jesus, and

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Speaker 9: it just opens the door for us. And we do

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Speaker 9: require that if they take the filter from us and

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Speaker 9: accept the Lord, that we get the opportunity to come

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Speaker 9: back and talk to them not only about God again,

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Speaker 9: but also how to continually maintain and take care of

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Speaker 9: their filters so that their families can enjoy clean water

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Speaker 9: for a very long time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting he brought up that aspect of spirituality

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Speaker 1: because I was having a conversation with someone who heads

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Speaker 1: the ministry in Colorado and he was talking about a

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Speaker 1: lot of the folks who he deals with who are

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Speaker 1: now Christians, but they are former Muslims, and he said

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Speaker 1: so many of them what brought them to Christ was

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Speaker 1: seeing visions of Jesus. And I asked him why that

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Speaker 1: so often happens, and he said, it's because in Islam,

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Speaker 1: they are so wired to have their antenna up for

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Speaker 1: visions and things like that.

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Speaker 2: That it's just kind of I don't want to say.

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Speaker 1: It's commonplace in their religion, but it's oftentimes. Why you

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Speaker 1: see that more prevalent for former Muslims who have come

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Speaker 1: over and become believers. Leah Thomas from Wired to Fish Coffee,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. And remember too,

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Speaker 1: All right, everybody, one more break and then we will

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Speaker 1: be back with our final segment. Welcome back, everybody to

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Speaker 1: the final segment of the show. I'm Amanda Head and

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Speaker 1: my co host, as well as the editor in chief

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Speaker 1: of Just the News, John Solomon. He's out on assignment tonight,

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Speaker 1: but I'm going to reel it in for this night.

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Speaker 2: But he's going to be back on Monday.

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Speaker 10: All right.

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Speaker 1: A lot of fretting has been going on in environmental

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Speaker 1: circles since President Trump got elected. They say that they

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Speaker 1: are worried about climate change. They say President Trump's regulatory

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Speaker 1: cuts are going to hurt the environment. They claim President

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Speaker 1: Trump's tariffs will too, and they are even saying that

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Speaker 1: timber may be a scarce commodity somehow, don't believe me, Well,

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Speaker 1: here's Chris Matthews on that.

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Speaker 2: Earlier this week.

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Speaker 3: I watch the issue of lumber.

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Speaker 10: Now you see we get so much of our lumber

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Speaker 10: two by fours from Canada. What's where you get it

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Speaker 10: from Canada? We got our newsprint from up different newspapers.

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Speaker 10: The fact is we get it.

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Speaker 3: What are we going to do? I have more lumber

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Speaker 3: made in the United States? Now, what is our plan? Now?

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Speaker 10: Oh, we're not going to import wood, so we're going

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Speaker 10: to make more wood.

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Speaker 3: We're going to create more wood. Is that it?

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Speaker 2: People use newsprint for toilet paper these days. Not sure

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Speaker 2: if you've got the memo, Chris Matthews. But everything's digital now,

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Speaker 2: all right? Yeah, so it's fairly.

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Speaker 1: Easy to create more wood, right, plant trees, and we

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Speaker 1: do a pretty bang up job of it already here.

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Speaker 1: But joining me to discuss that and more. The communications

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Speaker 1: director for Nature is non partisan. I love that name,

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Speaker 1: Amelia Joy. Amelia, thanks so much for having us, Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for being here.

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Speaker 11: Thank you for having me, Amandriday.

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Speaker 2: What can I say?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 1: I want to get your take on Chris matthews take

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Speaker 1: on wood scarcity.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean my response is, yes, Chris, that's exactly

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Speaker 11: what we're going to do.

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Speaker 2: We're going to produce more.

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Speaker 11: Timber right here in the United States of America. I mean, look,

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Speaker 11: we can talk about timber, we can talk about energy,

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Speaker 11: we can talk about where we get our food from.

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Speaker 11: At the end of the day, what this issue is

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Speaker 11: is it's a national security issue. A country that relies

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Speaker 11: on other nations for their energy, for their food, for

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Speaker 11: their timber is not a secure nation. And so the

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Speaker 11: initiative of this administration is to bring all of this

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Speaker 11: back to America and to have trees grown in America,

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Speaker 11: to have energy produced in America, to have food grown

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Speaker 11: in America, and to support American industries. Additionally, we have

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Speaker 11: a national forest health crisis in this country right now.

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Speaker 11: We watched La Burn last year, and local and state

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Speaker 11: leaders are saying that the National Forest Service is not

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Speaker 11: helping them keep their forests healthy. So let's give that

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Speaker 11: power back to the states. Let's make sure that we

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Speaker 11: have healthy forests and we can continue to produce our

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Speaker 11: own timber for generations to come.

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Speaker 1: You know, President Trump always donates his paycheck every quarter.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he should send it to the National Forest Services.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that would be a very worthy cause.

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Speaker 1: Secretary Rollins, Agriculture Secretary, has announced these sweeping reforms to

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Speaker 1: actually protect our national forests and to boost production of it.

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Speaker 1: Here on American soil. Do you think that that's going

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Speaker 1: to solve the problem?

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Speaker 11: I do. I think that it's more important now than

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Speaker 11: ever for us to produce as much as we can

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Speaker 11: right here in America.

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Speaker 3: Americas have made it clear that.

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Speaker 11: They don't trust other nations to produce timber, to grow

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Speaker 11: their food, to produce energy, and so President Trump and

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Speaker 11: Secretary Rawlins at the Department of Agriculture has made it

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Speaker 11: a priority for timber and for food as well, to

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Speaker 11: start making sure we're producing it right here in America.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about EPA Administrator les out

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Speaker 1: in something that he said recently, because the constant messaging

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Speaker 1: that we hear from liberals, especially folks who are on

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Speaker 1: the environmental left, is that you can't have a thriving

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Speaker 1: economy and also protect our environment. Leez Elden says those

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Speaker 1: things are not mutually exclusive. You can do both at

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Speaker 1: the same time, would you concur.

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Speaker 11: I absolutely agree with Administrator Zelden. He's also been talking

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Speaker 11: about the new mission of the EPA being to power

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Speaker 11: the great American comeback, and I couldn't agree with him more.

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Speaker 11: It's an outdated thought to say that you can't care

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Speaker 11: about the environment and care about producing a thriving economy,

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Speaker 11: especially in the greatest country in the world. And so

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Speaker 11: this deregulation that we're seeing at the EPA, the way

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Speaker 11: that I view it is it's step one, but step

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Speaker 11: two needs to be replacing these outdated environmental initiatives.

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Speaker 3: These initiatives that.

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Speaker 11: Are wasting tax payer dollars, are inflating the federal government.

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Speaker 11: Let's reevaluate them. Let's replace them with something that actually

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Speaker 11: works for the American people and scratches the itch for

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Speaker 11: these people who do care about our national arcs, who

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Speaker 11: care about clean air, clean water, habitat restoration, caring for

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Speaker 11: our wildlife, permitting reform. These are all things that President

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Speaker 11: Trump and Administrator Zelden have said that our a priority

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Speaker 11: for this administration, and a vast majority of Americans expect

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Speaker 11: action on the environment. And it's my hope, especially with

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Speaker 11: what nature is non partisan, that this administration will take

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Speaker 11: the initiative to reach a hand across the aisle and

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Speaker 11: replace these cuts in a way that's bipartisan and hopes

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Speaker 11: that a future administration won't have to overhaul the EPA again,

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Speaker 11: won't have to go through another deregulatory process won't have

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Speaker 11: to review these initiatives once again decades from now, because

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Speaker 11: we'll do it right this time, and we'll do it

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Speaker 11: in a way that conserves America's natural beauty for future generations.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to ask you about just the nature

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Speaker 1: of your organization.

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Speaker 2: Nature is non partis And we only.

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Speaker 1: Got about sixty seconds left. Do you find that Republicans

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Speaker 1: and Conservatives care as much about the name, sure, as

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Speaker 1: much about nature that as Democrats do.

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Speaker 11: I do. I mean, when you think about the conservation

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Speaker 11: legacy of this nation, the first person that I think

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Speaker 11: of as Teddy Roosevelt, I also think about our farmers

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Speaker 11: and ranchers all across Western America. These are the people

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Speaker 11: who are working in the land every day, who are

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Speaker 11: the true stewards of the land. And there's no one

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Speaker 11: in this country who cares about America's natural beauty and

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Speaker 11: environment more than the people who rely on it for

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Speaker 11: a living. And so Conservatives and Democrats can really agree

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Speaker 11: on more than we might expect when it comes to

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Speaker 11: the environment. We just need to get them in the

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Speaker 11: same room and talking about it to actually solve the problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think talking about it is the hardest part.

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Speaker 1: Getting them to actually have a conversation and not yell

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Speaker 1: at each other. Amelia Joy, communications director for Nature is

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Speaker 1: non Partisan, thank you so much for joining me on

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Speaker 1: this fabulous Friday.

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Speaker 2: All Right, that is all the time that we have

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Speaker 2: for this evening. John and I both will be back.

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Speaker 1: Here on Monday at six pm Eastern here on Real

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Speaker 1: America's Voice. I'd ever had justinews dot com for the

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Speaker 1: land said line